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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Drive to the Great episode three point

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Speaker 1: thirty one, in what could be something of a frenetic episode,

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Speaker 1: because we have the NBA Playoffs from last night, the

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Speaker 1: Monsee Celtics stay alive. The Timberwolves, after making one conference

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Speaker 1: finals in their franchise history, have now made consecutive conference finals.

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Speaker 1: An unbelievably important Game six on deck between Thunder and Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: And despite all that, one could argue the biggest story

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Speaker 1: in the sports world right now is the NFL schedule release,

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Speaker 1: which is why actually we are going to lead the

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Speaker 1: show with none of those topics. I'll explain that in

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Speaker 1: a second. But the other reason DEMANDE today's show is

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Speaker 1: frenetic is because there is a chance, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you're ready, that at some point during the show I

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Speaker 1: have to get up for a few minutes and you

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Speaker 1: just have to take over. So I have we have

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Speaker 1: we are in the process of I don't need to

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Speaker 1: get into all the details, but someone is coming by

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Speaker 1: the house today and the window of time they gave

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Speaker 1: us is nine am to three pm, and we just

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Speaker 1: need someone here at all times. And if they if

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Speaker 1: they show up and we don't answer the door, then

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Speaker 1: they won't come for another few weeks, so I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's going to happen, but it's on the board,

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Speaker 1: so just be ready for that, all right, and just

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Speaker 1: just just letting you know you look good, just sound good.

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Speaker 1: Here's what miss missed the cut in what looks like

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Speaker 1: It's going to be awesome. Nick Cage is gonna play

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Speaker 1: John Madden and Al Davis is gonna play Christian Bale

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Speaker 1: in a new movie. And that one still image those

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Speaker 1: guys looked unbelievable. The WNBA season tips off tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: the Portland Trailblazers are for sale. The producers have asked

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Speaker 1: me if the Trailblazers moved to Kansas City, which they won't,

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Speaker 1: but if they did, would I become a Trailblazers fan?

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Speaker 1: And the answers, Yes, absolutely. If Kansas City got a

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Speaker 1: basketball team, that would be my team. The reason I've

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Speaker 1: been able to be NBA free agent my whole life

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Speaker 1: is because the Kansas City Kings moved to Sacramento before

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Speaker 1: I was born and I never had a team. But yes,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely would become a Casey Trailblazers fan. Reminder for

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Speaker 1: are spending their time with us, because we are going

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Speaker 1: to start the show talking about math. Demonsay, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: Oh all right?

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Speaker 2: So the draft, the draft lottery is on Monday. We

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Speaker 2: opened the show up on Tuesday talking about it, and

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Speaker 2: here we are again today.

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Speaker 3: You want to discuss it again? Is it more conspiracy stuff? What?

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Speaker 1: No? I so this is so listen. I won't spare

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Speaker 1: a ton of time on this. I will get to

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Speaker 1: the basketball, I promise, But I feel, I honestly feel

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Speaker 1: a responsibility in this moment because this is everything that

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Speaker 1: is going on surrounding the Draft Lottery is just either

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Speaker 1: a microcosm or an a metaphor for so much of

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy bullshit that has pervaded every aspect of our lives,

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Speaker 1: where it is folks asserting things that are just simply untrue,

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Speaker 1: I won't spend ten minutes on it like I did

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Speaker 1: I made the mistake of reading some of the comments

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Speaker 1: on our video when I said everyone who believes the

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Speaker 1: I don't want to believe it's rigged, but it's awful

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Speaker 1: fishy that they won't let us see the lottery balls

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Speaker 1: get picked and the process. And the reason that is

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Speaker 1: It's on the NBA's YouTube page. You can watch it

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Speaker 1: which is why have they been hiding this from us?

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Speaker 1: And it's like it was on page three of the

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Speaker 1: it's not hidden. You just haven't looked for it. That's

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Speaker 1: those three picks were, you know, point zero zero one percent.

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Speaker 1: How do you explain that? And now set aside that

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Speaker 1: because that's at least an understandable and a marginal error.

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Speaker 1: But here's what people don't understand, and this is what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to explain quickly, and then we will move on.

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Speaker 1: If the lottery stayed perfect, if no one jumped anyone,

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Speaker 1: it would have gone Jazz, Wizards, hornets. That would have

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Speaker 1: likely one two three Jazz, Wizards, hornets. What the odds

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Speaker 1: And the answer to that is zero point two percent,

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Speaker 1: one in five hundred the most likely. Because again, what

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Speaker 1: And again we're gonna we're doing the rough calculations here,

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Speaker 1: every single outcome was incredibly unlikely, but we were guaranteed

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Speaker 1: a Canarian the coal mine because the whole world already

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Speaker 1: this was actually when it liked sports conspiracies and was

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Speaker 1: other conspiracies? Was the Kyrie irving flat earth stuff? That

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Speaker 1: then what you mean is there is no objective truth

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Speaker 1: that as a collective, our ability to have a agreed upon

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Speaker 1: It's fraying, and it's dangerous, so we can be done

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Speaker 1: with it here. But I am I'm not overreacting and

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Speaker 1: I'm not wrong, and I'm not trying to just like

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Speaker 1: just start to feel like anything that happens that isn't

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Speaker 1: what I expected to happen. There must be an invisible

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Speaker 1: process yourself and see how unriggable it is. Crunch the

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Speaker 1: those circumstances, You're like, eh, feels fishy to me. It's dangerous,

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Speaker 3: Over, Adam Silver, thanks you for your service.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, can I tell you one other thing

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Speaker 1: on that and then will be done. Speaking of Adam Silver,

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Speaker 1: this was tweeted and this is what really set me off.

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Speaker 1: I am going to read you and describe to you

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Speaker 1: the tweet, and then I'm gonna tell you who tweeted it.

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Speaker 1: After making big trades just months before the NBA Draft lottery.

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Speaker 1: These teams ended up winning it, and it was like

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Speaker 1: the exploding head emoji, like wow, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: which is just stoking the conspiracy nonsense flames. The account

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Speaker 1: that tweeted that was the NBA on ESPN, the official

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Speaker 1: account Adam Silver should have been Bamani text this, text

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Speaker 1: don't want to read. Just Bamani won't care. He didn't

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Speaker 1: I was Adam Silver. You're damn straight. It's so well,

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Speaker 1: it's one person's bias, one referee or an individual decision,

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Speaker 1: rather than a multi decade, multi dozen human being conspiracy

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Speaker 1: to what end? And so and again, I keep saying

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it like the MAVs winning the lottery was

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Speaker 1: Hawks winning it last year to get Alex Saar and

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Speaker 1: and nobody cared that that team jumped from ten to

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Speaker 1: Minnesota playing I don't know a total of forty five

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Speaker 1: good minutes in that entire series, like the third quarter

433
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: of Game four, moments last night, and you know a

434
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: few other various spots. Is after running out of gas

435
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: by his own proclamation in round by the end of

436
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: round two last year, Anthony Edwards learned from it and

437
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: was like, you know what we I can I can

438
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: save some of the nitrous tank for this next round

439
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: because I don't need to. I don't need to deal

440
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: with this. I don't need to go all out in

441
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: this round. What I will tell you is Minnesota has

442
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: to play drastically better in the next round to have

443
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: a chance to have a chance against Oklahoma City or

444
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Speaker 1: even to beat Denver. And I think Denver, we'll talk Denver, Okay,

445
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: see in a minute. So I think that there was

446
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: an understandable intensity let down once it was clear Steph

447
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: was out, and once it was clear that the Warriors

448
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: simply did not have any offensive punch. But they do.

449
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: They absolutely need to be much much better. But what

450
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I will also say is this already has been a

451
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: successful season. I know that Timberwls don't want to hear.

452
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: They're like, no, we've never been to the finals. We

453
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: want to make the finals. And of course, and you

454
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: could make the finals, but you it was pretty shocking

455
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: that they made the conference finals last year because nobody

456
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna beat Denver, certainly after they won

457
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: the first two against Denver and then lost three in

458
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: a row, and certainly not during Game seven they were

459
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: down twenty points in Denver. And then this year it

460
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: looked like that trade was a mistake and that they

461
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: were going to take a major step back, and now

462
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: they're in the exact same spot. And so I think

463
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: that they you are you you have to be incredibly

464
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: optimistic about the next half decade right now if you're

465
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. But you also have to feel like, man,

466
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: I know Ant's young, but the bracket might not break

467
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: better than this for us again, particularly about who you

468
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: potentially could be seeing in the NBA Finals. So there's

469
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: a huge, huge moment obviously for the Timberwolves, and they

470
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: just need to be better than they were really in

471
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: this entire series. I don't think the Timberwolves have played

472
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: an A plus game or even an A game starting

473
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to finish since Game four against the Lakers, and it

474
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: is like really surprising and impressive. I guess that they

475
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: were able to close out the Lakers and then win

476
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: five of six against Golden State despite not playing their best.

477
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: All Right, Demonse, what I know, we have a bunch

478
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: of follow ups.

479
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: Here, Indiana.

480
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Do you think they're in the same boat as Minnesota.

481
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: You know, they made it to their to the Eastern

482
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: Conference Finals last year and they're both kind of showing

483
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 2: it's not a fluke.

484
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yes, I think that both for both

485
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: of those teams. We looked at their conference finals appearances

486
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: and put them in the same bucket that we put

487
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: the Blazers like six years ago and the Hawks a

488
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: few years ago. Like, ah, I mean, that's cool, but

489
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: it's probably not, you know, really indicative of who they

490
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: are and the fact that they both responded by not

491
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: only getting to the conference back to the conference finals,

492
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: but getting back there in dominant fashion. I mean, neither

493
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: of those teams have played a game six in these playoffs,

494
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Is that right?

495
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

496
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: Neither have played a game six in these playoffs. That's

497
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: really impressive. All right, let's keep going.

498
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: Who do you think Minnesota is rooting for in the series? Denver,

499
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City.

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00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Well, they're definitely rooting for Denver tonight, right, that's unequivocal

501
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: because they want that thing to go seven. And then

502
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: if I were them, I would be rooting for Denver

503
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: because Denver would be back to back seven game series

504
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: with a five and a half man team, and so

505
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: I would I would just feel like, we're gonna have

506
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: the rest and the youth and the legs. They wouldn't

507
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: have home court over either one of them. But they

508
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: are definitively rooting for Denver tonight, and then I would think,

509
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: probably as terrifying as Joker is, you guys beat him

510
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, and I think you feel

511
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: better about that matchup. All right, let's keep going.

512
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: Are you are you surprised by Julius Randall popping off

513
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: in the postseason.

514
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm shocked, and it's really impressive and he deserves a

515
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: ton of credit. He was a historically bad postseason performer

516
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: in it granted a limited sample, but it also him

517
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: being a bad playoff guy to me meshed with how

518
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: I viewed him as a player, which was kind of

519
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: empty calories at times, kind of a played a selfish

520
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: style of basketball, and he was unbelievable last night. He

521
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: then had I thought, a really good postgame interview where

522
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: he was like, that was number eight. We just need

523
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: number nine. You know, I'm not worried about myself. And

524
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: it seemed he seemed like just much more adult and mature,

525
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: which maybe is what you like. That's what happens as

526
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: you age. And he's been excellent, like really excellent. He

527
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: has been better these playoffs than Kats has been. What

528
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: it oh. On that note, one thing the Timberwolves really

529
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: need in this next round is Dante to get rolling again.

530
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: Like a lot of us thought Dante was a sneaky,

531
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: huge part of that trade. And Dante has not been

532
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: in this postseason what we saw him like for the

533
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: nixt But I am listen. Ton of credit to Julius Randall,

534
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: a ton of credit and he did like I didn't

535
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: see that coming, and he's been excellent and that's really impressive.

536
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: All right.

537
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: Next after the game, kurr insaid, if Curry hadn't got injured,

538
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: that he saw them, the Warriors going the distance, how

539
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: do you feel about that?

540
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: Okay, people are gonna get mad again. But now this

541
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: is where I again sadly.

542
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: Have to.

543
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: Again. I'm just here to create balance in the sports

544
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: media ecosystem, and if at times that means I have to,

545
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: as I said, play the ras al Ghoul role, I'll

546
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: do it. I was wrong when I laid out the

547
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: different ways Steph Curry, one of the twelve gradest players ever,

548
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: a face of the league for the better part of

549
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: a decade, one of the most likable, unique impactful players

550
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: of any era. I was wrong when I laid out

551
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: how the narratives go with him, which is when he

552
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: has a great game and they look awesome, He's better

553
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: than magic, and it's do we need to put him

554
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: in the goat conversation, and when they missed the playoffs

555
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: or get bounced early, it's we just move on to

556
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: the next thing. I didn't realize there was a third

557
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: branch of that tree, and that branch Demon's is if

558
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: they lose without him, it actually helps his goat case.

559
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Look at like, look at what that team looked like

560
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: without Steph Curry.

561
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: Wait, why are you sounding like this is bs? Like

562
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: this is like that's like it it it it does it?

563
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean, does it not make him look better that

564
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: he's winning? Like that they they did what they did

565
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: against Minnesota without him, like, look a lot different if

566
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: they had Curry.

567
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I I guess I'm just, you know, a

568
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: cave man. I of course they would have looked better

569
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: without with Curry, obviously. I just don't think that getting

570
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: clocked in round two helps your historical hierarchy case. I'm

571
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: weird like that.

572
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: I heard that.

573
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: I understand. I'm not saying it should hurt his case.

574
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you dingy, but I am not going

575
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: to do what folks are doing already this morning, which

576
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: is well now, Actually, what Steph was able to do

577
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: was even more impressive Steph carrying this team. This team

578
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: was below five hundred before they traded for Jimmy Butler.

579
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: Like Steph was, Steph was carrying them to the play

580
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: in again, which is where they did end up. And

581
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: and like that again, I like Steph Curry. There's no

582
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: way not to like Steph Curry.

583
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: But the the Calvin Ball of his historical greatness discussions

584
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: being heads you win, tails his opponent loses is just

585
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: a sight to be seen because.

586
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, for the and here's

587
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: the other piece of it that nobody, I think everybody knows,

588
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: but nobody wants to bring up injuries like Jason Tatum's.

589
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Forget the severity of it, just the way he suffered

590
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: it are just horrible, awful luck. Like there's nothing you

591
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean that there's nothing could have been

592
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: done right. It was like Paul George in the Olympics,

593
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: or you know, like one off Flukes, like damn. Steph

594
00:42:53,320 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Curry's injury was one of the catalysts that was that

595
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors when Steph Curry was playing, needed

596
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: seven brutal games to beat Houston. And because of that,

597
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: at age thirty seven, at that workload at that responsibility.

598
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 1: Game one of this series, he suffered a soft tissue injury.

599
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: If the team had played better in Round one, I

600
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: don't think he suffers that hamstring injury. So it all

601
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: is connected and so like, that's that's not some like

602
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: hot take. That's just obvious. And it's why you don't

603
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: want to need to go seven in round one. It's

604
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: why you don't want and this is on the Warriors

605
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: to have such a heavy offensive burden on Steph all

606
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: of that. But I what I'm not going to do

607
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: is be a party to the conversations of man oh man.

608
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: If Steph didn't get hurt, the Warriors could have won

609
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: the championship when we saw that at thirty seven years old,

610
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: given the way the Warriors are built and what is

611
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: asked of Steph that he was he had a hard

612
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: time getting through two and a half weeks of playoff basketball,

613
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: much less two months. That's not that's not mean, that's

614
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: not unfair. That's just aging basketball players, just like it's

615
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: not mean or unfair to say playoff Jimmy is what

616
00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: I worried it was going to be, which is, you know,

617
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: he makes surprise cameo appearances and then oddly goes back

618
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: to being a guy who looks totally disinterested in shooting

619
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: the basketball, and the idea that playoff Jimmy next year,

620
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: next year, when Steph is thirty eight, when Draymond is

621
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: thirty six, when Jimmy is thirty six, that this Warriors

622
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: team is all of a sudden going to be in

623
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: a drastically different spot than it was this year, which

624
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: is were what spot were the Warriors in this year?

625
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: The only path they had to competing at the highest

626
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: levels was a Steph Curry save us path, which is

627
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: a testament to his greatness. And at thirty seven, that

628
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: is a path he can only walk for a couple

629
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: weeks at a time, and at thirty eight, we'll see

630
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: how long. So that's that is the fair reading of it.

631
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: The fantastical, make believe reading of it is man oh man.

632
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: If Steph stayed healthy, they could have won the championship.

633
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: They weren't a good enough team.

634
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: Like.

635
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: They needed to be a better team, so they didn't

636
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: need to ask Steph to do so much, so they

637
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't likely run into some type of Steph Curry either fatigue.

638
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Two years ago we saw this. It wasn't in the

639
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: form of an injury. It was in the form of

640
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: the team's not good enough. Therefore Steph has to do everything. Therefore,

641
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: once we get to round two, he's not fully functional

642
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Two years ago, they needed seven to beat Sacramento.

643
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: Steph in that game seven scored fifty t when he's

644
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: thirty five, not when he's thirty seven, and it was like,

645
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at what Steph Curry did. But

646
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: the fact that he had to do all of that

647
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: just to get to round two put him in a

648
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: position where in round two he was fine. He was

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Speaker 1: twenty seven a game on forty four percent from the

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Speaker 1: field and thirty four percent from three, which is fine,

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Speaker 1: but not going to be good enough because he fired

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Speaker 1: all his bullets, going thirty for a game on forty

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Speaker 1: nine percent from the field in thirty eight percent from

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Speaker 1: three to get out of round one. So is Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry still good enough to be the best player on

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Speaker 1: a championship team? Yeah, similar to his old guy brethren Lebron.

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Speaker 1: Does that team need to be incredibly well constructed and

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Speaker 1: incredibly deep because it otherwise he's going to run out

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Speaker 1: of gas? Yeah? Should any of this what happened this season?

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Speaker 1: Change in a positive or a negative way. How you've

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Speaker 1: used Steph Curry historically? Obviously not. Are there going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot of dopey folks that use getting beaten

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Speaker 1: in his team being beaten in round two in a

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Speaker 1: wide open postseason as evidence of he's better than Magic Jon? Yes,

665
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Speaker 1: and those people are out of their minds. Again, what agenda?

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Speaker 1: I have an agenda? Go ahead, no tell me.

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Speaker 2: Man, I honestly, I don't think they can be Like,

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Speaker 2: I really don't even think those two players can be

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Speaker 2: the best player on your team. I think probably the

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Speaker 2: best off for Steph Curry to be the second best

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Speaker 2: player on his team and they probably a better chance

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Speaker 2: to getting a championship.

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Speaker 3: Well, same with Lebron.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, well, I mean it's here's the thing. In a way,

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Speaker 1: what you're saying is being has been proven out in

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Speaker 1: these playoffs, right. The point I'm making is I think

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Speaker 1: that if you what's the right example of the team, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you put Steph or Brown on the fully healthy,

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Speaker 1: fully functional Celtics in place of Tatum, I think either

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Speaker 1: one of the I think they with Steph or with

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Speaker 1: Braun they could win the championship, and they would be

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Speaker 1: the best gun. You see what I'm saying, Like, you're

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Speaker 1: right that the easiest way would be to just like

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Speaker 1: add Yannis or in the Lakers case, they did add Luca,

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Speaker 1: but Luca didn't play like Lucas supposed to in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers roster was screwed up. But you like,

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Speaker 1: that's the point I'm making. I do think those Stephen Broun,

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Speaker 1: you didn't used to have perfect ross around him, and

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Speaker 1: he just knew they were you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Going to two months of high intensity playoff basketball, no problem.

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Speaker 1: See you at the finish line. It's just a different

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Speaker 1: spot now. And that's that's the reality of it.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more NBA before we do

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Speaker 1: schedule stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, after choking in that fourth quarter the Nuggets, he

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Speaker 2: went seven minutes without a without a basket.

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Speaker 3: They're now down three to two. Playoffs are wide open.

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Speaker 2: And okay, see can capitalize tonight. Do you think they'll

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Speaker 2: do that?

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Speaker 1: No, listen, I think that. I think I think Denver

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Speaker 1: is gonna win tonight. And then we have a Game

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Speaker 1: seven and I'm super excited to see I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: to see what Joker has in store for us over

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Speaker 1: these next couple games. And I this is, this is.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's unfair, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a high standard. Let me put it like that.

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Speaker 1: Which is and Daniel, this is another massive compliment. I'm

713
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Speaker 1: about to play pay to Nikola Jokic, but I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to. I will for the second time when

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Speaker 1: talking about Joker, Evoe, evoke, invoke Lebron James and what Lebron.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's last year in Cleveland, So that means it's twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty at the time, he's thirty three years old,

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Speaker 1: so a little bit older than Joker, but you know,

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Speaker 1: peak Lebron. They are playing the Celtics in the conference finals.

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Speaker 1: And that Calves team, When I say that Calves team

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Speaker 1: would make this Nuggets supporting cast look like all stars.

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Speaker 1: That Calves team was starting Kevin Love more on him

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Speaker 1: in a second, very good player, Jr. Tristan and George Hill.

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Speaker 1: They were playing a Pacers team that you know young,

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Speaker 1: but the Pacers were Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, Al Horford,

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Speaker 1: who the youth for Al is a good thing because

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Speaker 1: you know he was peak out or close to peak

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Speaker 1: Al Horford, Terry Rogier, Marcus Smart Uh and then you

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Speaker 1: know they didn't get Marcus Morris, Aaron Bains. The Calves

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Speaker 1: found themselves down three to two in that series. In

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Speaker 1: Game six of that series, Kevin Love got hurt five

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Speaker 1: minutes in and Lebron goes forty six eleven nine, three

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Speaker 1: and one, playing forty six minutes as the Cavs win

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Speaker 1: by seven. And then in Game seven of that series,

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Love out with a concussion, Lebron goes thirty

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Speaker 1: five fifteen nine and two and they win. He scored

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Speaker 1: thirty five, the team scored eighty seven and they win.

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Speaker 1: Now they ended up then getting The very next game

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Speaker 1: Lebron played was probably the best game any basketball players

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Speaker 1: ever ever played in the history of the league, the

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Speaker 1: fifty one to eight to eight Game one of the Finals,

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Speaker 1: the j R.

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Speaker 3: Smith Game.

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Speaker 1: I tell that story for these for this reason, I

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Speaker 1: think and This is why it's about Joker, and this

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Speaker 1: is why it's a compliment. I think it's on the

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Speaker 1: board Joker does something similar. I think it's on the

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Speaker 1: board that jokers next two games are just I'm just

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Speaker 1: fucking better than everybody and role players, you'll play better

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Speaker 1: in game six and then I will will us to

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Speaker 1: the finish line in game seven. Now, it doesn't guarantee

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Speaker 1: you a championship. The Calves then got clocked by the

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Speaker 1: Katie Steph Warriors in the finals. But I am I'm

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Speaker 1: open to that being a possibility, and that is the

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Speaker 1: highest of compliments that I can pay. Nikoi Jokic. All right, demonte,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the schedule release.

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Speaker 2: If we could NFL released a twenty twenty five schedule

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Speaker 2: last night. I'm starting off with your chiefs. We have

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Speaker 2: a league high seven primetime games.

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Speaker 3: What sticks out to you with the schedule?

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Speaker 1: So there's so many schedule related things, and I was

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Speaker 1: I told the producers I was going to do a

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Speaker 1: lot on the schedule, but it's almost like there's so

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Speaker 1: much on the schedule that it's going to be that

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Speaker 1: it's going to be overwhelming to do. I So I

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Speaker 1: want to do it like this. I want to go

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Speaker 1: through the nationally televised games and then I will dive

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Speaker 1: deep into individual teams who I feel like have either

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Speaker 1: got lucky or unlucky, and maybe we'll do more of

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Speaker 1: it next week, because I do want to do more

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Speaker 1: NFL stuff, So our Sunday Night football slate, we can

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Speaker 1: just go through it. You guys don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about this chief schedule right now. And if it helps

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Speaker 1: you guys, I should have given you guys a heads

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Speaker 1: up on this. If you go to the Twitter account

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Speaker 1: my sports update, which is Ari Meirov. He has the

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Speaker 1: image of the three like the night schedules, because that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking at and people can watch along. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if we have the capability to pull

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Speaker 1: this up. I still don't really know how production works.

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Speaker 1: But the first Sunday night football game of the year

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Speaker 1: to monse is Ravens at Bills, and I'm here to

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Speaker 1: tell everyone that I think for the second straight year

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Speaker 1: to monse.

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Speaker 3: Real dirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you agree.

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Speaker 2: I see it as an opportunity again, same way I

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Speaker 2: saw it last year.

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Speaker 1: But it is it is an opportunity that the.

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Speaker 2: Bill like it could have been another good team against

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Speaker 2: the Ravens other than the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure the audience knows what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. For the second straight year, the NFL is

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Speaker 1: sending the Baltimore Ravens to the location of their gutting

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Speaker 1: postseason defeat, obviously against the team that beat them, and

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Speaker 1: because it's not a divisional matchup, no chance for a

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Speaker 1: get back. So last year two years ago the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: host or no, I guess it's not to the location

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Speaker 1: two years ago because the Ravens hosted that game. But

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Speaker 1: two years ago the Ravens beat the chief The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: beat the Ravens in the AFC Championship game, and then

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Speaker 1: Week ones against the Chiefs, the Chiefs beat them. And

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Speaker 1: I don't care. What the Ravens said in the back

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Speaker 1: of their head all year had to be can we

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Speaker 1: beat this team? They've beaten us twice and now the

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Speaker 1: Bills beat them to end the year, and Week one

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Speaker 1: they play the Bills. Now it is a great opportunity.

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Speaker 1: That is a kick ass game, like a really a

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Speaker 1: kick ass game. But I don't, I don't, I don't

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Speaker 1: get it to like be totally honest with you, all right,

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Speaker 1: Week two Sunday Night football is uh. It's almost as

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Speaker 1: if the schedule makers, Oh, good job producers, they got

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Speaker 1: the graphic, forgot that Kirk Cousins lost the starting job

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Speaker 1: because the only reason I care about Falcons at Vikings

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Speaker 1: is if Kirk Cousins is starting for the Falcons. Otherwise, like,

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Speaker 1: I guess Pennick's McCarthy, But I'm not that into it.

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Speaker 1: Week three Chiefs at Giants, I gotta tell you, I'm

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Speaker 1: into it, and I might go to that game Sunday

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Speaker 1: night met Life see the Chiefs. Maybe the world is not.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine the world is super into that game.

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Speaker 1: Week four, this again, there's the Sunday Night slate. Week

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Speaker 1: four Packers at Cowboys. Good early season kind of measuring

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Speaker 1: stick game for both teams. In this regard, I think

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Speaker 1: both of these teams kind of best case scenario is

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Speaker 1: they are fighting for one of those wild card spots.

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Speaker 1: So this could have real postseason implications if the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are better than people think, and if the Packers are

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Speaker 1: about what people think. Week five Patriots Bills. I think

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna stink Vegas thinks the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: gonna be fighting for a playoff spot, so that becomes

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Speaker 1: a huge game. Uh. Week six Lions at Chiefs one

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Speaker 1: of the games of the year, like just objectively one

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Speaker 1: of the games of the year. And here is a

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Speaker 1: years of little known fact. Jared Goff, I do believe,

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Speaker 1: is the only quarterback in the league that Mahomes has

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Speaker 1: played more than once and never beaten. So he lost

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Speaker 1: to him in the fifty four fifty one Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football epic Chiefs Rams seven years ago, and lost to

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Speaker 1: him the season opener two years ago. Lions Chiefs. Week seven,

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Speaker 1: Falcons Niners Again. I feel like we're being a little

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Speaker 1: overserved the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday Night Football. I gotta

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. Week eight one of the most

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Speaker 1: exciting games of the year. Theoretically Aaron Rodgers taking on

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, assuming Aaron Rodgers signs up to play.

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Speaker 1: So I'm into that one. Are you into that one?

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Speaker 1: I'm in. I wish it were in Lambeau, but I'm

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Speaker 1: into that one.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see Jordan Love put it on him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'd be great. Week nine Seahawks Commanders.

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Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks might be really bad. Commanders should

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Speaker 1: be fun, but I think the Seahawks might be really bad.

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Speaker 1: We'll see about Sam Darnold week ten. Week ten, if

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Speaker 1: these seasons go the way I think they're gonna go,

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Speaker 1: might be a Sunday Night Football is a second screen.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what HBO has on at that point

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Speaker 1: of the year, But Steelers Chargers. I'm not as himing

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Speaker 1: the Chargers as everyone else is, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Steelers it's not gonna work. We're getting wow two out

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Speaker 1: of three weeks. We're getting Aaron Rodgers theoretically in the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday Night Football. Week eleven. Awesome game Lions Eagles,

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Speaker 1: massive implications for tie breakers and playoff seating everything. Week twelve.

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Speaker 1: I think that's an awesome game too. Bucks Rams, two

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Speaker 1: of my favorite quarterbacks. Who my favorite teams to watch?

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Speaker 1: Week thirteen, bo Knicks against Jaden Yeah. Yeah, see about

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. Week fourteen, Texans Chiefs awesome. Texans tried to

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Speaker 1: get some get back for the playoff game last year.

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Speaker 1: Week fifteen, Vikings, Cowboys Okay. Week sixteen, Bengals Dolphins Week seventeen,

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01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: I like it a lot. Bears Niners, I will say

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. I feel like this is probably good

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Speaker 1: for my employer Fox. I think I think America's Game

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: of the week, the Giant Fox for thirty game on Sundays,

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01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: stole some of the best matchups from Sunday Night Football

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01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. We can go through much quicker if

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Speaker 1: I'm ESPN, I am irritated is the wrong word. But

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Speaker 1: there's only a few jump off the page on you.

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01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: Week one Vikings Bears. Listen. I'm excited to see Caleb.

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Speaker 1: I am not as into the Vikings as maybe the

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Speaker 1: schedule makers are. Week two doubleheader pretty good. Actually, Bucks Texans,

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: I like it. Chargers Raiders. I'm high on the Raiders.

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01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 1: And Week three is unbelievable. Lions Ravens. That's another game

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: of the year. Then it gets a little lean. Jets

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01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: dolphinsh Bengals Broncos and Chiefs Jags. I love that matchup.

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01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if America does. But Travis Hunter, even

884
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: if you don't care about the Prince Travis Hunt. Week thirteen,

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: Bill's Falcons Bears, Oh Bears, Commanders. That's an awesome game,

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01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: Jaden and Caleb. That's awesome. Maybe this is a better

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01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: schedule than I thought. Actually, now that I'm actually diving

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01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: into it. Uh Bucks line, this is again Monday night football,

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01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: Bucks Lion's great with a doubleheader of Texan Seahawks. And

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01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: then the very next week, Jaden takes on Mahomes for

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: the first time ever. That's sick Cardinals Cowboys. The storyline

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01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: there'll be or just make this prop bet now, there

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01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: is going to be a highlight package of Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: as a high schooler winning state championships in Cowboys Stadium

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna get that. We're like, this guy's unbelievable

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Speaker 1: in this stadium. Week ten potentially really good one Eagles Packers,

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01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: Week eleven Cowboys Raiders again. I think the Raiders are

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Week twelve Niners are Niners hosting the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: November twenty fourth. That's a date night, I'll tell you

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: right now. That's a Monday night date night. The next

901
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: week Giants Patriots, we might have back to back date nights. Yeah,

902
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: back to back Monday night date nights. Put it on

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01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: your calendar, honey. Week fourteen Eagles Chargers good, and then

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01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: Week fifteen Dolphins, Steelers, and then Niners, Colts and then

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: Rams Falcons. So Monday Night Football kind of ends with

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01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: a bit of a whimper, but it has really I

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01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: think the first half the schedule better than I thought.

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01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: And now we go to Thursday Night, Thursday Night. Week one, Packers, Commanders,

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01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: love it. Week two, Dolphins, Bills. Oh, so this is

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01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: what we're when we do this more schedule stuff next week.

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: This is the things that are because we are obviously

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01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: already know who's playing who, so it's more about when

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Speaker 1: they're playing for the schedule release, not more about exclusively.

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01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: The Dolphins getting their game in Buffalo in September is

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01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: a huge win for them. Them not having to go

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo in November December is very helpful for the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Then we get Seahawks, Cardinals, whatever, Niners, Rams, potentially really

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: good Eagles, Giants as Steelers, Bengals always good, Vikings, Chargers again,

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot of Vikings. Maybe JJ McCarthy's gonna be awesome,

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: but I can't figure that one. Ravens Dolphins, see if

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Speaker 1: two is healthy, but that could be good. Bears, bronor

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01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Raiders, Broncos, Jets, Patriots, No thank you November thirteen,

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01:07:54,680 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: No thank you. Bill's Texans awesome game, and then the

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: Black Friday Game Bears Eagles awesome, then Cowboys Lions, really good, Falcons,

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Speaker 1: Bucks Fine, Rams, Seahawks, and then the Christmas Day game

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Speaker 1: Broncos cheeks. So so that's your exclusive Sunday, Monday, and

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Speaker 1: Thursday night schedule. I'm just glad it's here, and I

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Speaker 1: really I'm gonna lean on Warren Sharp to do a

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: lot of the tough work for Rest Edge and stuff

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01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: like that, and I'll dive into more fully like did

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01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 1: you you know did you fade? Are you a warm

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01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: weather team that got your cold weather opponent in September

933
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins did with their annual game to Buffalo,

934
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Speaker 1: Because that's important. If you ask me sneak no, and.

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Speaker 2: I know the schedule's coming out, I think you can

936
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 2: get the Jags to win the division at nearly three

937
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: to one right now.

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Speaker 3: I just want to put that out there.

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: I like it. Travis Hunter, Liam Cohen, fading, Your fading,

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Speaker 1: your guy.

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Speaker 5: C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud. All right, let's get some of the listener questions

943
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: that we had uh from Tuesday, and then we'll get

944
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: to today's reminder. Everybody like rate, subscribe review please it

945
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: really helps us out YouTube Spotify, iTunes, all of it.

946
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: Trent asks Nick, is there a trade package that the

947
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: Bucks would actually entertain it would also work in the

948
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: second apron to get you honest to Boston.

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, the answer to that question is no, there isn't.

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: The Celtics are trying to trim salary. The I don't

951
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: think the like if you called them up and you

952
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: offered them, the answer is no, They're They're going to.

953
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 3: Boston, Porzingis and Brown see you later.

954
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: No. Well, that's the thing is because salary. No, because

955
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: of Boston salary stuff, they can't combine. They can't combine guys,

956
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Speaker 1: So would have to be basically Jaalen Brown for Giannis

957
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: straight up. And I just even if you had picks,

958
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be enough for Milwaukee.

959
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: Al right, Next, Grayson Justin for Tibbs, Justice just justin?

960
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually justice for Tibbs.

961
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: He played his starters big minutes all year and was criticized.

962
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,879
Speaker 2: But now in the fourth quarter, they're clearly better conditioned

963
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 2: than their opponents because they're used to it.

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01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: Hey, right now, it's looking good. That part's true. Now

965
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: Demons's banking on this being wrong and that they're just

966
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: gonna fall apart at the end of this series, but

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01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: right now it's true. All right.

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01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: Next, Joel says, loves first things first, what's the process

969
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: for selecting topics on the show? And as well, it's

970
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: really the leader of the show, all.

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: Right, So for selecting topics, like we have a group

972
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: Google doc our producers put in what they think the

973
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: topic should be. Then we have a call where we

974
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: make sure we all agree. I mean, it's usually pretty straightforward,

975
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, But so that is, selecting topics is easy.

976
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: Finding the right question to ask about the topic takes

977
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, but not much. And while

978
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: Wiles is really the leader of the show, Like, yes,

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: of course Wiles is the leader of the show. There's

980
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 1: no question about it. And it's just like, what's the

981
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: right example of this. Have you ever been playing a

982
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: video game and there's like a toddler around and they

983
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: want to play too, so you give them a controller

984
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: that's not plugged in and they sit next to you.

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01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing.

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: Below the belt, Afex says, I love that you guys

987
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: have a father son show. Oh thanks, Apex, Yeah, I

988
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 2: like that like the show too. Go ahead, Noah asks

989
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 2: if Giannis goes west and the East gets even worse,

990
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: would you support a one it's one through sixteen playoff

991
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 2: seating ignoring conference.

992
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't know what you would do.

993
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: I like the traditional conference setup. Here is a sneaky thing.

994
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:35,919
Speaker 1: I was actually so Nick who owns his family demonte

995
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: knows this one telling the audience. Next to my wife's

996
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: boutique is an ice cream shop called sugar Hill Creamery,

997
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: which is just the best ice cream in New York City.

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: And it's a husband wife business. And uh, it's also

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01:12:54,600 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: a very the coincidence of this very unique, like they

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01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: it's a husband wife business. The husband's name is Nick.

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01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: He's a white guy from the Midwest. The wife is

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01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: a black woman who is has a lot of the

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Speaker 1: same kind of what I would call almost like charisma. Yeah,

1004
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 1: she reminds me a lot of your mom. And she's

1005
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: like a very similar kind of ethos also both maybe

1006
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: a little like supernatural powers. Like it's very you know,

1007
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: it's a very they they have. They have an eleven

1008
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: year old daughter, like like they just a lot of

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01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: odd coincidences there.

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01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: It's rigged like two blocks.

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01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: Of them, right, Well, we one block apart. Yeah, but regardless.

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: So Nick is a huge Timberwolves fan, and they were

1013
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: actually over at the house last night to watch the game,

1014
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: and one of the things he and I were talking

1015
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: about is if the NBA ads, which they will demanse

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01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: a Seattle and a Vegas team, both of those teams

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01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: will have to be in the Western Conference, which means

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: one team currently in the West will be moved to

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: the East, and that the teams that make the most sense.

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01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: Houston right there.

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01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: No, So, I mean, I'm sure they would love it,

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Speaker 1: but the furthest East teams that are in the West

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: are New Orleans, Memphis and Minnesota. Minnesota makes the most

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: sense because they're close. Minnesota is so close to Milwaukee, Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and and those teams are in the East. But that

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01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: is going to be if you own New Orleans, Memphis

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: or Minnesota, you desperately want to be moved to the

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference. And if you're the NBA, I know this

1029
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: is a long term decision, but in the short term

1030
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: you kinda want moving New Orleans to the East is

1031
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: not helping anybody. You want it to be an awesome team,

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: so like it should, you would think it would help

1033
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: everyone for its being Minnesota. All right, go ahead.

1034
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: Next, Isaiah says, would you guys ever open? Would you

1035
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: guys ever be open to calls from fans with questions?

1036
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 2: Huge fan of the first things first and nick style

1037
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: of debating the Lebron of debate shows.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's very nice. Uh. I don't know the tech

1039
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: on having callers. I know some shows do. Yeah, I

1040
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: mean I'd be opened to almost anything.

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01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: We could see some stuff happening there.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, no, I mean we could try it at

1043
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 1: some point. I don't know. All right, And do the

1044
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Speaker 1: last one, Demonsey.

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01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know Lebron had mentioned that the draft

1046
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: was rigged and you haven't said anything about that. And

1047
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: also but on, Weelitz says that because I was thinking

1048
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Speaker 2: of that in my head.

1049
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 3: But Weelitt was the guy I asked it.

1050
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: So I so here's the deal. When I did the

1051
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,879
Speaker 1: rant on the TV show, we led with Lebron's tweet

1052
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: and the laughing emojis. I and so I I'm not

1053
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: like ignoring it. Yeah, I think it is.

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Speaker 3: So we led the show.

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: If you called Lebron a bonehead basically, I mean indirectly. Sure, Yeah,

1056
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: on this topic, yeah, I think this is I think

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: it's beneath him and I it's I think that I

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: think that if he actually spent time looking at it,

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: he'd come to the conclusion of, oh, it's not but yeah,

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't like I'm I don't like that he has

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01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: fanned of flames on that. I don't I mean, that's

1062
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: just is what it is, all right. Reminder everybody like

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Speaker 1: rate subscribe review. Oh next week, next week our show

1064
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 1: will be on my not Tuesday. Just so everybody knows.

1065
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: Next week, the whole schedule is gonna be weird, and

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure exactly what it is. What I

1067
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: do know is we are doing a show Monday, not Tuesday.

1068
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: And maybe we'll do maybe we'll do a bonus show

1069
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I'm not sure. All right, Like rate

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Speaker 1: Subscribe Review, Thank you, DraftKings, Blue Duck Volume, everybody talk

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