1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Angie and this is Keon, your favorite 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Okay storytime host, and we've got great stories coming right up. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: But before that, we have a quick two minute break 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: from the sponsors that keep this show alive. 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: I agreed to try an open relationship with my boyfriend 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: and I kept getting disrespected. 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 4: Well could have seen this coming. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: So me Mel thirty one and my boyfriend Meil twenty 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: four have been together for about eight months. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 5: Two dudes. 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: He had told me that he wants to be in 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: a polynamorous relationship. I let him know that I do 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: not have any interest in being polly. He kept bringing 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: up the topic and wanting to open up the relationship. Finally, 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 3: about three months ago, I said I would try it. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a good idea. The thing that you 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: didn't want to do at all. He had to push 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 4: you into trying. 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: He kept hitting that, he kept like poking the day 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, like, no, it's gonna come out eventually. 21 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: I love peer pressure in my relationships. 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: I said, as long as there was communication, a Google calendar, 23 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: and a task list, and he let me know ahead 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: of time that we can try it. 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 5: Wow. 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: I looked at that, I said, where are those words? 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: Coming from I just think those are the only tools 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: you need to have a successful open marriage. 29 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 3: My only thing was that I had Monday and tuesdays off, 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: so those are our days. Yeah, absolutely, I have something 32 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: I have to tell you what. This comes from Bernie 33 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: Brent on the the and if you listening your own stories, 34 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: go to the Arside Showcase stories. 35 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 5: I'm sub Reddit, I'm Riley. 36 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're. 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 5: Gonna be goofy. 38 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna comment your experiences and if you 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: know anyone in the Polly or your Polly, please comment 40 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: down below how they are doing this right or maybe. 41 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Wrong, or if your name's Polly, why not just. 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: Comment, just comment regardless. 43 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Fast forward everyone, Fast forward a couple of weeks and 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: I find out he has a couple of hangouts planned. 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: So just what this gen z's calling it these days? 46 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: Hang out hangouts? We're just hanging out. 47 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Snooching, something's hanging out, that's show. 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: And I asked about the details of the hangouts and 49 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: it was this guy we'll call Alec, and he was 50 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: going to take him out to breakfast and pay for everything. 51 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 4: How with what money? 52 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: I told him that that was a date. 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: My boyfriend told me no, it wasn't and that it 54 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: was just friends. He said that this was an old 55 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: friend and they were gonna catch up. 56 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: So weird to actively lie and cheat in an open relationship, 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: like you got what you wanted? Just be honest. Yeah, 58 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: what are you thinking? 59 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 6: What are you thinking? 60 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Oh? 61 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: It's like how long has he had this breakfast plan for? 62 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: Oh? Ages? 63 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Oh, now here comes the punter. This was planned on 64 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: a Monday. I'm off Monday. 65 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: It's the Monday. Wait a minute, they're hanging out on Monday. 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: That's my day off? 67 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 5: What also wild to plan a hangout like this on 68 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 5: a Monday? 69 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 70 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: Who does think? Yeah? 71 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 5: I under start my work week. 72 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Sorry Monday, make me upset and brunch. 73 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: Monday and brunch that that should not exist. Munch, you're 74 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: wild for that. I let him know this, and he 75 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: said he forgot and he thought I was going to 76 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: be sleeping background. I work overnights and I get off 77 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: at seven thirty eight. 78 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 5: M on Monday. 79 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I stay up all day Monday and go 80 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: to bed at a normal time Monday night. And this 81 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: is every Monday. I'd let him go and told him 82 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: to enjoy his day I would not let this slide. 83 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks later was my birthday. 84 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: They better not have had brunch plans on your birthday. 85 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: I was super excited because one of my love languages 86 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: is getting it. I'm gifts. 87 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: I love giving and receiving gifts. 88 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: I love giving gifts and I love receiving. And my 89 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: boyfriend knows this. 90 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 91 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 3: I know this kind of sounds shallow, but even if 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: it's homemade and doesn't cost money, I will love it regardless. 93 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: My birthday fell on a Monday. 94 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: Oh no, not every other Monday. 95 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: I get off work and find out he has plans 96 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: to meet up with another guy. 97 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: That's actually I would like, genuinely if my boyfriend had 98 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: plans on my birthday, I'm. 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: Ripping his head off, both of them. I thought maybe 100 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: this was a cover up so he can get me 101 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: a gift. 102 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: No, that's so depressing. 103 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: Hopey says, I was wrong. 104 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: He admitted to me later that he forgot until my 105 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: roommate texted him letting him know that it was my 106 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: birthday and if I was going to do something. 107 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 5: Up. 108 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: My boyfriend forgets my birthday. 109 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 5: Mind youude. 110 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: This was already around one PM that he realized it 111 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: was my birthday. 112 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: If you're not wake up next to me giving me 113 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: a little smooch and saying happy birthday with like a 114 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: card and a freaking birthday cake in my hands, I 115 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,559 Speaker 4: wake up, all right, all right? 116 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: He ran out and got a store bought cake and 117 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: some flowers. In my mind, this was strike too, but 118 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: I had let it slide. I was honestly very hurt. 119 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: We had a very big argument, and I thought we 120 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: had come to another understanding that Mondays and Tuesdays or 121 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: for us. A couple of weeks later, it was Valentine's 122 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: Day on a Saturday. Everyone take a breath. 123 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: Thank god it's not on a Monday. 124 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 5: I was really excited, and I planned out a whole thing. 125 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 5: He planned everything else, So Foria. 126 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: That's pretty awesome. 127 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 5: I had a letter for each. 128 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: Hour planned where he would open it and find a 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: long message from me. 130 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: Stop stop No. 131 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: There were some that had gift cards attached them, door Dash, Steam, PlayStation, 132 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: in store, et cetera. His love language is words of affirmation. 133 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: Some of the love letters were words of affirmation. 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: You're great, You're so awesome. Every day you light up 135 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: my world. 136 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: I was super excited the day before, he lets me 137 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: know that he has a hangout with another guy, plug 138 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: on alad break up. 139 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: Why are we still with him? You didn't even want 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: to open your relationship. 141 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: I was really hurt. 142 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: To be honest, I'd let him know this and he 143 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: said that he would be back by the time I 144 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: was up sleeping background on my work week. I get 145 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: home around eight am and go to bed until twelve 146 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: thirty pm, and then I take another nap around six 147 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: pm to ten pm. I said okay and waited for him. 148 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: He didn't end up coming home until four pm. I 149 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: decided to sacrifice my sleep and stay up to have 150 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day with my boyfriend. 151 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: At this point, op what are we doing? 152 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: Opie. 153 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: In the next month, I found out he had reached 154 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: out to two more of his exes, wanted to go 155 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: on a weekend trip with one of them, and the 156 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: other while he was talking to over discord. Mind you, 157 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: the one he was talking to over Discord broke his 158 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: heart and he's still in love with him. The one 159 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: over Discord does not have feelings for him whatsoever. The 160 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: one that he wanted to go on a weekend trip with, 161 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: we will call Eric. He stated that Eric was going 162 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: to uber an uber for him to his house and 163 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: he'll uber to him back at the end of the 164 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: weekend trip. Okay, mind you, the uber is about one 165 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: hundred and ten dollars one way. 166 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: Lordy, lord Lord. 167 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Eric was also going to pay for all his food 168 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: and of course Devil's letters for my boyfriend. I felt 169 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: super uncomfortable with this. I had asked to meet with 170 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Eric just to fill him out. 171 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Stop stop PSA, stop, oh Pe, this relationship is bad 172 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: and you should break up with your boyfriend. 173 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: We had another argument of where I had let him 174 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: know I. 175 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 5: Wasn't comfortable with Polly. 176 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: Yet he agreed to set up dinner so we can meet. 177 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: My boyfriend asked me to drive him to Eric's house 178 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: to see if that would calm me down. No, it 179 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: would not do that, that would save him an uber trip. 180 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: Yeah that's true, op. 181 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: I said, yes, that would most likely calm me down 182 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: and we can have that dinner with Eric. Fast forward 183 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: to the day of and we get in the car 184 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: to drive to Eric's house and he drops on me 185 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: that we will just do a call and not dinner. 186 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: What in the car we just do a call and 187 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: not dinner? And also we do a phone call and 188 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: Eric cames up on me and starts asking me questions 189 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: of why I need to meet his dates. I let 190 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 3: him know that I wasn't comfortable and it would make 191 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: me feel more comfortable in theory. Eric stated that he 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: has a husband and that I should not put myself 193 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: through meeting these guys. This did not sit well with me, 194 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: and I got super quiet on the phone. On the 195 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: phone call where my boyfriend asked me if I was 196 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: going to answer, I felt very good and I said no, 197 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: I've dropped him off to his weekend and left. Eric 198 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: did pay for gas, which was nice, And the next 199 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: month he planned about two more dates with Alec and 200 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: they were all on Monday's mother eving Monday. 201 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: Stop opie, I don't want to hear another complaint. I 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: don't want to hear another complaint. Oh. 203 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 5: He used the same excuse of forgetting. 204 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: Huh, I don't want to hear another complaint. Stop it, 205 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: stop it you wake up, slap, slap, wake up. 206 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, he came back from his 207 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 3: date and he was wearing all new clothes and jewelry 208 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: and showing off what his date got him. I felt 209 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: very uncomfortable. I told him I'm not comfortable with Polly anymore. 210 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: Honestly tried and it was not for me. My boyfriend 211 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: has stated that I am overreacting and being unfair. Am 212 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: I the a hole for this? 213 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: Yes to me, because you haven't broken up yet, and 214 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: that's my thoughts. 215 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Fair. 216 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: The only answer to this is break up with him. 217 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: You're not comfortable and he still wants to do it. 218 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: It's over, yum. 219 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: Because the open relationships that we've seen, they set up 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: boundaries and then they go after it. Yeah, you had 221 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: clear boundaries, no Mondays and Tuesdays. 222 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: And the first one was no, I don't want to 223 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: be Paully. 224 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 225 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: Well then once he gilded you into it, no Mondays 226 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: and Tuesdays, and that was the first one he valulated. Yeah, 227 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: and now it's getting into personal life. The people are 228 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: buying you things. 229 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: Wake up, Booby, smell the roses and get out of there. 230 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: All right? Updates. So I broke up with him. 231 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: And I decided to continue with my moved Oregon Trails. 232 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: We were supposed to move together with a roommate of ours, 233 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: but I told mine now X he couldn't go. I 234 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: called the leasing office and told him I want to 235 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: take them off. They stated that when I pick up 236 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: the keys, I can take them off. Some backstory on 237 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: what I found when I snooped. My ex was texting 238 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: his friends and letting them know that he did and 239 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: it loved me. That he was using me to get 240 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: to Oregon. 241 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: Insane. 242 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: He said he was just choosing to love me, but 243 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: he didn't see a long term relationship with me. 244 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: Wow, okay, glad you broke up with him. 245 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 5: Didn't you see that? 246 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? Went made you go dinosaurm No, dude, that was 247 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 4: like so obvious, But I'm glad that you're you're now 248 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: seeing it in out. 249 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: My ex got a train and went to Downtown LA. 250 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: When my roommate dropped him off at the train station, 251 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: I noticed that the times for the Downtown LA train 252 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: were later in the evening. There was a train for 253 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: Oregon arriving first. I asked my roommate what train he 254 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: was getting in, and he said the one to LA 255 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: and that he saw him get on that train. I said, okay. 256 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: A couple of days later, I made the eighteen hour 257 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: drive to Oregon with all of my pets and stuff. 258 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: I went to go pick up my keys from the 259 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: leasing office, and the office said that my roommate already 260 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 3: picked up the keys. 261 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: Oh uh oh uh, oh uh oh not good, not good. 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: I let them know that that was impossible since we 263 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: just got here from California. They let me know it 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: was angel I saw red. 265 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 5: I was mad in her. 266 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: I went to my roommate and asked if he knew. 267 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: He said, oh, so he is here. He wasn't supposed 268 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: to be here yet. I was so mad. I walked away. 269 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: I called some friends and asked for advice as well. 270 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: I called my roommate and asked him if he knew. 271 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: Do you guys think he knew? We got a little 272 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: bit left here? 273 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you think the fact that, yeah, the roommate was 274 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: speaker yet yeah? Oh interesting? 275 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: Oh well, I thought he was in LA came out 276 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: and said he had lied and knew that my ex 277 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: was coming to Oregon. 278 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: Shocker. 279 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: We're also shocked. 280 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: I now feel trapped in my own home and what 281 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: was supposed to be a happy occasion turned into a 282 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: stressful one. 283 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: My ex even ate. 284 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: The whole gift basket that was there to welcome us 285 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: into our new apartment. 286 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: Ex. 287 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out what to do because 288 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: I don't feel comfortable with him being there. If anyone 289 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: has suggestions, I would love to hear it for contact. 290 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: Since my ex picked up the keys a couple of 291 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: days before I got here and signed for everything, I 292 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: couldn't take them off the lease. Now, since it's been 293 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: forty eight hours after the move and since my ex 294 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: picked up the keys, there is a form that we 295 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,359 Speaker 3: can fill out that everyone has to sign voluntarily. 296 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 5: Oh that's it. Is there more of this? 297 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: I'll take a look. That's it, yike. 298 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: So now, if he's stuck living with his stupid. 299 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: Ex, why did he do this over the phone? 300 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 4: Why does he even want to live with op? That's 301 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: what I don't understand. 302 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: He used him to get there. He loved me. That 303 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 5: was his whole plan, the whole time. 304 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 4: Weird. It's such a weird plan. Doesn't make any sense 305 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 4: to me. Spice. 306 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that update where he found his ex living with 307 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: him is five days old. 308 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: Oh my god, so well, Pee, I think you gotta 309 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: find a new place to live. Sorry. 310 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story. We're gonna read 311 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 7: the next one. 312 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: My boyfriend and I met at a spicy party and 313 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 4: everyone doubted us. 314 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: Is this a meet cute or is that cute meet? 315 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: Last Saturday, I mailed twenty four attended a spicy party 316 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: hosted by a friend. To be honest, I've outgrown those events, 317 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 4: but my friend insisted I go. It'll wave the door 318 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: feed for me. When I went there, much of the 319 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: crowd wasn't doing anything for me until this guy, Rupert 320 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: male twenty four entered. By the way, this comes from, 321 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: I'm back and hungry and if you want to submit 322 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime 323 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: separate it. 324 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm Sophia, I'm key on, and we're here to get 325 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: good of. 326 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: Us scoofly, but we don't have all the answers. We 327 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: really know what we'd do, so let us know what 328 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: you would do in the comments and ope, he says. 329 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: I was I and Rupert the night and I made 330 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: it a mission for him to do me. And by 331 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: the time the last two juice of the spicy party 332 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: was starting at eleven PM, I made my way. 333 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Over to him, make him my way downtown to Rupert 334 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: go in downtown on Rupert. 335 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: Nay Man. When it happened, we immediately made out and 336 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: did the entire dance Okay, Prior to going to the 337 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: dark room and doing the deed with him, we actually 338 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: got acquainted because he sat next to me and called 339 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: me Babyface's baby face. Anyway, he said he was glad 340 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: that I finally went in the room because he's been 341 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: waiting for me, and he also had eyes for me 342 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 4: the whole time. Where do they host these things like 343 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: someone's house. I would hate to host that. 344 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: It's just like another It's just another party. 345 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 6: It's just so messy. 346 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: There's snacks and drinks. It's just everyone's a little bit 347 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: less clothed. And then there's another room where everyone has 348 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: a little fun stuff. 349 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 350 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: I've never done any of those things. 351 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: Too messy. Anyway, he said he was glad that I 352 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: finally went into the room because he's been waiting for me, 353 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: and he also had eyes for me the whole time. Anyway, 354 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: here's the tricky part and where I need help to 355 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: deduce if I'm delusional or feeling valid. After we made 356 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: out and hooked up, we were together the entire night. 357 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: He would sit next to me and would put his 358 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: hand on my knee, or he would insist that I 359 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: lay my head down in his thighs if I needed 360 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: a breathere. When I was sitting at the sofa, he 361 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: snuggled next to me and actually laid his head down 362 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: to my shoulders and I wrapped my arm over his shoulder. 363 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: We snuggled the entire night after we hooked up. He 364 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: was giving me butterfly kisses, forehead kisses, and innocent kisses. 365 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: He looked into my eyes and smiled while snuggling. He 366 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: asked me for my zodiac side and said that he'll 367 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 4: look into our compatibility later. 368 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Oh, this is so in La. This is so in 369 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: La or New York. 370 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 5: It could be. 371 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: It could be Yale. Yale is known for having parties. 372 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: No the zodiac thing. No, no, the zodiacting. 373 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: We had a discussion about past relationships, hobbies, and similar interests. 374 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: I brought up something in the conversation before we went 375 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: to sleep, and he remembered and asked about it at breakfast. 376 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Did I throw like a whistle at this? This is 377 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: still at the party, by. 378 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: The way, you still have this one person's house kit. 379 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: Could we do this, I don't know, on a date 380 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: or like, I mean, when there's not like a ton 381 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: of other people moaning and groaning in our presence. 382 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna yack. You're yam If you love this, 383 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 4: you love it. We left the Spicy party together and 384 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: had breakfast together. Despite him knowing some of the people 385 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: there and actually being friends with them. Before we left 386 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: the Spicy party, we actually hooked up one more time, 387 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 4: and even though someone else came into the room, he 388 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: didn't even entertain him. Actually, before I entered, he hooked 389 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: up with two other guys, but when I came in, 390 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: he stopped looking at anyone. Also, he was looking for 391 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 4: a room where we can do it just the two 392 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: of us. Some guys tried making out with me, and 393 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 4: I can see him standing next to me or eyeing 394 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: the guys that do we showered together at? Are we 395 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 4: still at the party? 396 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 397 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: It is a shower there. 398 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, people could get clean, I guess. 399 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 4: So we showered together and he gave me another innocent kiss. 400 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: He initiated some of our conversations the past two days, 401 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: and he even commented on an Instagram story and called 402 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: me Acutie. Anyways, two days since the Spicy Party ended, 403 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: we're still talking and he's sending me cat pictures. We're 404 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 4: just updating me on how his days go. If it 405 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: does turn out I'm not delusional? What should I do? 406 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: I don't want to scare him off because I'm really 407 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 4: attracted to him. I saw him, it felt like the 408 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 4: room around us got darker and he had a spotlight 409 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: on him. I can vividly feel my chest when I 410 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: think of him. I've never been in a relationship or 411 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: this interested in someone, and I don't know what to 412 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: do and I don't want to scare him off. Am 413 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 4: I delusional or valid? And there isn't edit? 414 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 6: But what do you think? 415 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: I mean? I'm not the professional to give you advice 416 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: on this because you guys did everything first and then 417 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: now you're doing feelings after. 418 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it seems like y'all like each other. 419 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: If y'all like each other, it's just date date ask. 420 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: Him datesy, you already do the little kisses you. 421 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: You already shook hands and shook hands, So go out 422 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: a day? 423 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 424 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Why not we just make this a little bit more intimate, 425 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: just you and I at a public place, but with 426 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: our clothes on. 427 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 428 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Edit? 429 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: I asked him out. 430 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: And he said yes, Yeah, I look at that. 431 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: And he followed up asking me to a concert on 432 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 4: a later day. 433 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 434 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: Update three weeks later. 435 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, do you think they're still together? 436 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 437 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: I think they're going to be together forever. Basically, the 438 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: gist of the old post was that I was overthinking 439 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: if Rupert was in'to me by reading all the overly 440 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: affectionate ways he held me. We've been on two days. 441 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: Since the Spicy Party, we've been seeing each other every week. 442 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: This week is the only week we haven't seen each 443 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: other because of work and also to avoid the Valentine's 444 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: craziness with all the people out and about, But we're 445 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 4: going to see each other on Tuesday to make up 446 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 4: for it. We're now exclusive. We have decided to stop 447 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 4: seeing or hooking up with other people, but to be honest, 448 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: we both haven't had any interaction with any other dudes 449 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 4: since the Spicy Party. We both confess to each other 450 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 4: that we like each other and agreed that by being 451 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 4: exclusive we can get to know more about the other person. 452 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: We also haven't had spicy sleep since the Spicy Party. 453 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: Wow, that is interesting, guys. 454 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: I kind of like that. I mean, I think everyone. 455 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like that. You guys already did it first, 456 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: but now you're going to know each other again. We 457 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: just did the steps backwards. 458 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I kind of like not. I mean, I 459 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 4: also think that anyone can you know, have spice to 460 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: sleep at anytime when you're you know, meeting, as long 461 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: as as long as there's consents and your consent and 462 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: you're being safe. But I think it's like, I think 463 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 4: it's sweet that you guys decided to take them, you know, 464 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: like you're like, we're already we already know that we're compatible. 465 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: Let's ease into this. 466 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: Let's see if we're compatible. Yeah. 467 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 4: I like that our feelings for each other were too 468 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: quick to develop, and we want to ensure that the 469 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: relationship catches up to that first. 470 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 6: I think that's nice. 471 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: We both agreed we'll be intimate again once more time passes. 472 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you to everyone who told me to 473 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: take a chance. I'm incredibly happy right now. I've never 474 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 4: felt this way towards anyone, so these are all new 475 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: to me. It seems like he's as crazy towards me 476 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: as I am to him. I never thought I would 477 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 4: ever receive this kind of affection from someone that isn't 478 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: just a friend. Hopefully it becomes official before the first 479 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: half of the year ends and we've got an update too. 480 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 4: It just keeps coming. I think you're gonna last forever. 481 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean they they tried to and they just 482 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: kept coming. 483 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: So true. I think this is going awfully well. And 484 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: we've got an update seven months later. 485 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: M boyfriend calling it boyfriend. 486 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 4: They're gonna be boyfriends. Here's the big conclusion. 487 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: We're boyfriends and nice. 488 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: We made it official last September twelfth, so today is 489 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: our one week anniversary after dating for almost eight months now. 490 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: The reason why we decided to take our time was 491 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 4: because our fear was that we met at a spicy 492 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 4: party and where we were spicy, sleepily not on par 493 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: with where we wanted the relationship to be, So we 494 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: didn't even think of being intimate till we were like 495 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 4: two to three months into the relationship. 496 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: Wow, I mean like at that point, why are we 497 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: not just official? 498 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: It was a challenge given where we met. I'm sure 499 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 4: it's expected that we're both guys with high libido and 500 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 4: waiting with torture, but we both wanted the relationship to progress. 501 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: Uh you know what they call that edging. 502 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 4: It's true. As for me, two weeks into dating, I 503 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: realized I have our OCD, so I immediately started going 504 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: to therapy twice a week, and it's been a breath 505 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 4: of fresh air. Turns out, choosing not to eat because 506 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 4: your own thoughts made you sad and guilty is actually 507 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: not normal. Glad you realized that I live with OCD 508 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: my entire life with just different themes, and it was 509 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: eye opening to know why certain things are just difficult 510 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 4: for me. Rupert and I like to joke that it's 511 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: actually a throuple because my therapist really helped me so much. 512 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: I don't think I would be able to navigate my 513 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: first real relationship if I didn't pursue it. Unfortunately, for 514 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: the naysayers, neither one of us went back to the 515 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: spicy party, nor did we cheat on each other. But 516 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 4: to be honest, that was a concern of mine since 517 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: some of my fantasies were a bit overwhelming. But my 518 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: thoughts do not define who I am. We are driven 519 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 4: by our values. Therapy and being in a happy, healthy, 520 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 4: stable relationship is also forcing me to become better. I 521 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 4: had a bad relationship with certain habits that I have 522 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: since I really thought I'd be the kind of person 523 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: to cheat given how my past life looked. But I've 524 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: had several invites from that old world, and I said, 525 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: note all of them. I deleted several social media accounts 526 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: and cleaned up the algorithm on the ones I kept 527 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: slightly strange that You're like, I thought it would be 528 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 4: the guy that cheats. You're like, yeah, a little strange, 529 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: but you're not, so that's good. 530 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: I think it had to do with, uh, this is 531 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: like Opie's first relationship and just never really understood all 532 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, boundaries, and I commend you for taking 533 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: this really slow and yeah, really really figuring her out 534 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: what you want and who you want to be with. 535 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: And that's great for your your partner as well. With Rupert, 536 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: good job, good job. 537 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: A little bit left sounds like I gave up things 538 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: that made me who I am. But to be honest, 539 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: with therapy, working out and finally feeling safe with someone 540 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: that isn't just a friend, I realized they were old 541 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: coping mechanisms and I was just chasing highs because my 542 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: old life was so tragic. But with the proper tools, 543 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 4: I actually have better ways to deal with things now. 544 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 4: So yeah, when I look at Rupert, it still feels 545 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 4: surreal that I actually got them. I have never been 546 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: miloved in my entire life. My parents are traditional religious boomers, 547 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 4: So for someone to attend to my wants and needs 548 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 4: everything something inside me aches in the best way. I 549 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: now get why they say a healthy relationship changes you. 550 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 4: Unfortunately we both get in some way. But I prefer 551 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: that now to where I was a year ago. That's 552 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: my last update. There you go. 553 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: You found love in a party place. 554 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys made it and I love that. 555 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's the end of the story. We're gonna 556 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 7: read the next one. 557 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: My boyfriend was secretly contacting our landlord pretending to be me. 558 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 4: Catfish. 559 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: I female twenty nine, had been with my boyfriend, male 560 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: twenty nine for three years. We jumped into things fast 561 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: when we first met, spending every night together after only 562 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: a month or so of knowing each other, Wow, and 563 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: then moving in together at six months. Oh, you did 564 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: say it was fast. By the way, This comes from 565 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: user Lazy Honey ninety four to seventy two, and if 566 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 567 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: r slash Okay story time subredd it. I'm Keon, I'm Sophia, 568 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: and we're here to give goofy advice. We're just goofballs. 569 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: We don't know everything. We only know what we'd do, 570 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: so let us know what you do in the comments. 571 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: As Hopie says, honestly, our relationship has never been consistently 572 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: good big red flag good, giant red flag. 573 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: And we moved really fast. We moved in after six months, 574 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: and he also hasn't been consistently good, but we're still together. 575 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: There's been trust issues, lying, conflict of morals, overall disconnect 576 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: and lack of compatibility. Something you would figure out, I 577 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: don't know, within the first couple of months of knowing someone. 578 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: Or before you move in with them. 579 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Right after we moved in together, and right after I 580 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: had purchased a brand new money signed car, I lost 581 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: my high paying job. Thing snowballed from there. Yikes. Financially 582 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: I was stable, but this sent as spiraling as he 583 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: did not have consistent work either. And this is where 584 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: you break up with him, right, yeah, right right. I 585 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: got pretty decent severance, but blew through it all, then 586 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: went on employment insurance, then ended up getting a lower 587 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: paying job with a long commute. It would take forever 588 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: to go through all the details, but essentially I got 589 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: into a mountain of debt and my credit is absolutely terrible. Gee, 590 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: I wonder why. 591 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: Dang this all snowballs? 592 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 7: Oh boy. 593 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: Currently he's on a trip to help with a family emergency. 594 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm at home tonight. Our landlord knocks on the door 595 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: to serve us a request to pay. Apparently we are 596 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: late on rent since January. I had no idea of this. 597 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: I sent him money, my partner my portion monthly and 598 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: expect him to pay her the full amount. The amount 599 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: we have to pay in fourteen days is almost ten 600 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Iike, that snowballs turning into an avalanche. 601 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: I think if OP was on the lease, I would 602 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: wonder why the landlord wasn't messaging OP too. 603 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: We'll probably find out why. Obviously I can't afford this 604 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: due to the above financial explanation. This was my sign 605 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: to get out. My landlord intended to slip the notes 606 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: under the door, and I had opened it to let 607 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: the dog out at the same time. It was pure coincidence, 608 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: and she had a feeling that I did not know 609 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: due to my lack of communication on email and phone, 610 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: which she had incorrect information for both. Oh, I feel sick. 611 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do or to think. 612 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I need to leave, but my credit won't allow for 613 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: my approval literally anywhere. I'm going to have to spill 614 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: this whole situation to my parents, who truly like this 615 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: dude and expect us to have a future. Ooo. No, 616 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the lexapro or the gut 617 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: feeling I've had for years that this wouldn't work out, 618 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: but I'm weirdly calm. It feels like this was the 619 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: stars aligning for me to finally have a clear way out. 620 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I know this is going to be brutal, It's gonna 621 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: hurt like a witch, and I'm going to be so sad, 622 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: but honestly, I'm slightly relieved that I have at least 623 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: some support for a way out. Please, if you have 624 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: been in a similar situation which we luck, and send 625 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: advice my way. 626 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 6: Good luck. 627 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: Thanks everyone for your comments. Life has taken me for 628 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: a ride. It's my last post. We have an update. 629 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: Oh boy, there's a lot here to take in and 630 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: to talk about. 631 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I wonder if you can talk to your 632 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: landlord and say, hey, I have been paying my boyfriend 633 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: has been stealing that. 634 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Money, yeah, seeing him or something, but also. 635 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: Prove that you have been sending him the money too. 636 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: We need to talk about the elephant in the room, op, 637 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: is your spending habits? 638 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, very concerning. 639 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: Very yeah, at least you know. But you're like, I 640 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: have a huge amount of credit card debt. I you 641 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: know all of this, I blew through all of my money. Yeah, 642 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: that was. 643 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 4: Like, spend really expensive car. 644 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: What are we doing? 645 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, very concerning. I would talk to your parents and say, hey, 646 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: I'm in a very dire financial straits and also my 647 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 4: boyfriend has been stealing all my money. 648 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think this is where you take a huge 649 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: just refresh of life, stay at home for a little bit, 650 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: gather yourself, and then start back up, start new. Yeah, 651 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: but definitely break up with your boyfriend. We have an update. 652 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: He had taken a red eye home from his trip 653 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: and had to start work once he had landed, so 654 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: we didn't talk in the morning. I don't care. We 655 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: are talking immediately. 656 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, immediately the second you get home. You stole my money? 657 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the lord stop by. We had a conversation about 658 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: something really important through the day. I was persistent overtext 659 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: that this wasn't something I was going to be able 660 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: to get past, and it seemed like we were kind 661 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: of amicably breaking. 662 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: Up amicably amicably. He stole your money? 663 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: What are we doing? There's too much going on. He 664 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: was upset that I made that decision and didn't want 665 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: to work through it, but seemed to accept it. He 666 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: encouraged me to tell my parents, which I did. They 667 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: knew I was heartbroken and upset, so they said they 668 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: were coming to me right away. They live about an 669 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: hour and a half away. As soon as I mentioned 670 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: their trip to me, he became upset and didn't want 671 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: my parents to come over. 672 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: Too bad. We're broken up. 673 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: You don't have a time out. He said, you should 674 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: tell your parents. 675 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: So why did you tell your parents? 676 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: Why did you tell your parents to come over? I 677 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: felt uncomfortable with how things were going, so I packed 678 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: what I could and left immediately with my parents. The 679 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: coming days were tough. He was going through the stages 680 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: of grief daily and reaching out to me a lot. 681 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: I don't feel bad. 682 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't feel bad either. A few days later, my 683 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: landlord calls me and the information she has for me 684 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: changes everything. He has not only given false email and 685 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: phone for me, he was actively contacting her as me 686 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: with them. 687 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 4: Yikes. 688 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Since the start of our lease over a year ago. 689 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: He has been lying and involving me as a backup 690 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: independently over text to our landlord to explain month's worth 691 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: of late rent. He had claimed he had been robbed 692 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: not true. That his mother had passed and he had 693 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: to pay for a funeral not true, She's also alive, 694 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: and other various lies. She sent me screenshots, email chains, 695 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: fake bank transfers, etc. Some of the messages he was 696 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: sending her were during a family vacation that my parents 697 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: paid for, telling her he was at the hospital. This 698 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: was a planned, calculated, and labor intensive lie that he's 699 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: put together. Honestly, I'm shocked that I dated this man 700 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: for three years and didn't know who he really was 701 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: or what he was capable of. 702 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 4: Me too, girl, That's why we don't move in after 703 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: six months. Yeah, not that that it can't work out. 704 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: Some people it does work it out, does work out, 705 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: did not work out, But this is one of those 706 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: cases it did not. I didn't tell him that I 707 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: knew the depth of what he went through for these lies. 708 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: I had so many belongings at our previously shared space 709 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: that I needed to get out before it got messy. 710 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: I kept things calm as much as I could and 711 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: finally got out today. 712 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 4: Ooh, bad, situation keeps getting worse and worse. Yikes, I'm 713 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 4: glad that you're out of there. Lawyer up, Yeah, lawyer up, 714 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: and also start working on paying off your credit card debts. 715 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Slowly but surely there's a little bit left. Let's go, 716 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: ahad and finish it up. Unfortunately, it looks like he 717 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: may stay in the condo, which really puts me in 718 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: a tough spot with racking up this debt to our 719 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: landlord moving forward. Although I had paid him my portion 720 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: of rent those months as we were on the lease together, 721 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm still legally obligated to this debt. The landlord and 722 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: I now have a fabulous relationship, so I am hoping 723 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: we can work out something amongst ourselves and she can 724 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: proceed with going to court with only him. 725 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 726 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I hope so too. 727 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, you can also get a lawyer, and so 728 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: I think, because presumably you have proof of transfers or 729 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: money transfers of you paying him what you owe for 730 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: the rent, you can prove that he stole that money. 731 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Then you also have the your landlord's yeah like proof yeah, literally, 732 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: document thinking yes, yeah, thanks for all the good lucks, 733 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: reality checks, words of encouragement, and everything in between. This 734 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: has been a really rough period in my life, but 735 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: I know that my life will flourish without this in 736 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: my life. I don't even know where to begin. I 737 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: can't believe this is happening. And that's the end of 738 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: that story. 739 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 4: Good luck, Opie. 740 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: So much luck. I wish you mountains of luck. 741 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: Bowyer up, talk to your landlord, talk to your parents, 742 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: get that support. 743 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: I think you also need to just lay low for 744 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: just a good amount of time. Don't buy anything, don't 745 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: be spending on some ridiculous things. But I mean this 746 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: is this is for you job yeah, bingo, just next time, 747 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: whenever you get into another relationship. Also, don't rush into it. 748 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Take it's left, take it really slow. But I think 749 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: go life at a new pace. I think you got 750 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: this best of luck. 751 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story. We're gonna read 752 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: the next one. 753 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Hey, key on here, we're going to get back to 754 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: the stories. But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 755 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: My friend demanded to share my room on our trip. 756 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: I just got divorced, so I refused. 757 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: Baby girl needs them alone time. 758 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: Everyone involved is in their early forties female. I recently 759 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: got divorced and it has been very rough going. I 760 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: went to therapy in and helped me tremendously. I am 761 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: finally starting to feel like my old self. I just 762 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: got off of my rusty dusty, as my grandma would say, 763 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: hit the gym, reconnected with my friends. I feel good again. 764 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: My ex and I used to take frequent vacations, which 765 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: I enjoyed. There is no reason for me to stop now, 766 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: so I decided to organize a trip with my friends. 767 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Significant Break three sixteen, 768 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 769 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Savannah, I'm Keon, 770 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: and we are here to give some good advice in 771 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: a little goofy way. But we don't have all the answers. 772 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: We only tell you what we would do in the situation, 773 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: but you shall us know what you would do down 774 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: in the comments. As Op says, I asked five of 775 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: my friends if they wanted to go, and three said yes. 776 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: Diane was one of the ones who said no, as 777 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: she already scheduled a few vacations and had limited time available. 778 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: You sucked, Diane. I'm just kidding you, Diane. Make more 779 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: time for your friend who just got divorced. 780 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 6: Come on, Diane, what's more important here? 781 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 2: No problem? So I researched and found a four bedroom airbnb. 782 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: Everyone will have their own room. One friend and I 783 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: each have the master rooms, one bed in each room, 784 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: and the other two friends each have a double room, 785 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: two separate beds in each room. Everything is set, flights 786 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: are booked, It's one month away. We're excited, and that 787 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: brings us to this weekend. Diane called me and said 788 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: one of her trips fell through and she now has 789 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: availability to go with us on our trip. 790 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 4: Great. 791 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: I told her that our host has more properties. I'll 792 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: ask her if she has another one near ours, or 793 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: if she can recommend a hotel that is close to us. 794 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: Diane got upset and asked why can't she stay with us? 795 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: I told her all rooms are taken. She knows this. 796 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: I was telling her about the trip all along. She 797 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: then asked, why can't I switch rooms with one of 798 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 2: my friends and she and I share a double room. 799 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: I told her that I didn't want to. Now call 800 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: me selfish, call me mean, call me whatever, but make 801 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: sure to add that I'm a grown adult woman who 802 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: needs her space. I just spent twelve years sharing a 803 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: room with my ex. I've happily adjusted to being alone. 804 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: Oh, he just wants to fart in her own room. Yeah, 805 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: she's like in peace. 806 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: I really I want to walk around. 807 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 6: You're not gonna let me do. 808 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: I want to starfish on my bed for once. 809 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: The other ladies are rarely away from their husbands and kids, 810 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: so they want their space as well. From the very beginning, 811 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 2: the decision was that everyone would have their own room. 812 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: I explained this to Diane. She doesn't get it, or 813 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: doesn't want to get it. She then called my friends 814 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: she is friends with them through me, who are going 815 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: on the trip, to see if they will share with her. 816 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: They all said no and suggested that she get an 817 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: airbnb or hotel near us and we'll all hang out together. 818 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: I just want to state we all are professional women 819 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: who make good money, so money isn't the issue here. 820 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: Diana often travels solo because she doesn't want to negotiate 821 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: with anyone. 822 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: Her words, Then why she negotiating right now? 823 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 4: You know that's the million dollar question here. 824 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's agree let's make the negotiations a little short here. 825 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: She had her own room on the group trip that 826 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: fell apart. We are not suggesting anything that she has 827 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: done previously, so now she isn't talking to any of us. 828 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: I feel bad that I don't feel bad as much 829 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: as I should. 830 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: No, don't feel bad. Yeah, I don't feel bad. 831 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: It's just like we all kind of want to enjoy 832 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: the vacation, and I feel like if we were, you know, together, 833 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: sharing the room whatever, It's just you know, we all 834 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: agreed that we wouldn't. 835 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: So Also, your plans fell through. That's an issue and 836 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: not an ish me girl. Sorry, very true. Don't put 837 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: your problems on to me because you couldn't commit to 838 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: these plans. Your plans were already set, they fell through. 839 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: You're more than welcome to come, but you're not welcome 840 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: to stay in my bed. 841 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 6: There, you got it. 842 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: I've been through enough in the last year. I've just 843 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: learned how to handle my feelings again. I can't manage 844 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 2: hers as well. She knew we had finalized this trip. 845 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: She knows everyone is looking to get away from their 846 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: own reasons. We don't want drama, and she is bringing 847 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: it to us. Am I the a hole for not 848 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 2: accommodating her, and there is an update. 849 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 850 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: She can accommodate herself. 851 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: It's just that these were plans and you asked and 852 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: she's like, no, it's fine, like I have other things. 853 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: Those fell through. So now everyone has to change their 854 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: plans around this girl. 855 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 4: No. Yeah, and it's also a month away. 856 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: Sorry, your plans fell through. Sucks to suck. You're more 857 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: than welcome to come hang out, Go get a hotel nearby. 858 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: We are not sharing a room with you, especially if 859 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: the financial things are not a problem here. What are 860 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: we doing? What are we talking about? 861 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, just girl, you got to accept the 862 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: loss on this one. But the thing is, it's not 863 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 2: like they're uninviting her or no, you know, like making 864 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: her feel like no you can't come, said yeah you 865 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 2: can come, you just can't, like we just don't want 866 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: to share a room. 867 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: Easy ultimatum here. If you want to come, get your 868 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: own room Airbnb, get your own whatever, and you can 869 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: hang out. If you can't do that, then don't come. 870 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: You are not sharing a bed with any of us. 871 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't make us feel bad. We still want 872 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 4: you here. 873 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: But now you're making a big deal like you guys 874 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: don't want me to sleep, you know, in the same room. 875 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 4: Maybe why is because I stank. 876 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 6: Like no girl. 877 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 4: We just all decided that we don't want to share rooms. 878 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 4: That's it. 879 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 6: Nothing on you. 880 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: There's an update I posted over a month ago about 881 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 2: my friend who invited herself last minute to my vacation. 882 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 2: I want to clear a few things that kept coming 883 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 2: up in the comments. When I wrote the post, everything 884 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: just happened, and my frustration showed in my writing. Diane 885 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 2: is a good friend of mine. I don't hate her. 886 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: She can just be a bit much at times. I 887 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: said that she invited herself because she didn't ask to 888 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 2: join us. After our plans were finalized. She told us 889 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 2: she was coming and expected us to accommodate her. We 890 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 2: all specifically wanted our own rooms. The other ladies wanted 891 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 2: to enjoy their spouse slash kid free time time alone. 892 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 2: This was my first vacation in a long time without 893 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: the ex hubby, so I just needed some space. 894 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: I hope you can understand now For the updates. 895 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: Although I was voted not the a hole, many commented 896 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: that maybe I wasn't a good friend. I felt bad 897 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: about that, so I gave Diane another call to work 898 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 2: things out, and she answered. She wanted to know why 899 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 2: I wouldn't accommodate her, and I told her what I 900 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: said above. I also reminded her of our previous trips 901 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: where we roomed together. That took us down memory lane 902 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: where we talked about all the things we used to 903 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: get into. 904 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 6: Lol. 905 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: It turned into a pleasant hour long conversation. I discussed 906 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 2: why it wouldn't be a good idea for us to 907 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: share rooms. We just have different travel styles. I liked 908 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: to get up early, walk around shop. She wants to 909 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: sleep in and veg out. The last time we shared 910 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 2: a room was a disaster. There were a few hiccups 911 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 2: on that trip, and she complained about it all day 912 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: and then again at night when we were in the room. 913 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 2: I had no reprieve from the non stop complaints. She 914 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: was not always like that. She grew less tolerant over time, 915 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 2: as we all are, but she took it to an extreme. 916 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: She said she doesn't complain, she just observes where there 917 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: can be improvements. 918 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 6: LOL. 919 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 4: Don't like it. I'm not complaining, but it could improve 920 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 4: a little bit. 921 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there getting my list ready to give 922 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: you my improvements. But I'm not gonna complain because my 923 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: improvements are better. 924 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. Like huh. 925 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: Also, if you guys have had previous travel like I 926 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: was gonna say, Oh, how bad could it be because 927 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: you guys maybe have never traveled together. You guys have 928 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: traveled together, You guys have past experiences. You guys cannot 929 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: be in the same room, especially if one of you 930 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: is a morning person and one of you is I 931 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: sleep till when I wake up. This is not gonna 932 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: work out, not. 933 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 2: In unfortunately, and I don't know why she would want 934 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: to cause problems about that when it didn't work out 935 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: in the first place. 936 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: The easiest thing here is get your own room. 937 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 4: We worked it out. 938 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: The other ladies also made peace with her. Diane and 939 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: a friend joined our trip and stayed at a nearby property. 940 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: Nice. 941 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: They were welcome to join us at our pool and activities. 942 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 2: Of course, the beginning was not smooth sailing. We had 943 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 2: our vacation set up where we had two days of 944 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: group excursions. The remaining days we would play it by 945 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 2: year just agreed to meet for dinner. I told Diane 946 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: she and her friend could join us on the excursions. 947 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: She complained that they started too early. She went to 948 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: the first one and complained that each stop was too short. 949 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: We should have went with a private tour, et cetera. 950 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: I pulled her to the side and asked her to 951 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: stop complaining. To her credit, she stopped until we went 952 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: to dinner, and then she complained about everything all over it. 953 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't If this were me, I'd be like, 954 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not doing anything with you. Yeah, 955 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: I go complain somewhere else. I'm here on vacation. I'm 956 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: not here on vacation to listen to you complain. 957 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 958 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 6: I just want to invite her. 959 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: If she can come, she can come. But if I 960 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: hear a complain like I gave her three strikes, third strike, 961 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you this entire trip. 962 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: I suggested that she not join the other excursion, as 963 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: it would be more of the same. She asked if 964 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: I didn't want her around. I said, not for the excursion. 965 00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 4: Lol. 966 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 2: So so we met for dinner on the other excursion 967 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: day and hung out on other days. With the exception 968 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 2: of the one excursion. 969 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 6: It went pretty well. 970 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 2: So that is it, nothing too dramatic, and we managed 971 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: to say friends through it. Well, okay, well, you know, 972 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: I guess you just care about her and lover, which 973 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: I understand, but you know, don't let her boss your own. 974 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah she sounds exhausting. 975 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, she gets on her nerves. 976 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: You know, maybe go a little low contact and then 977 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: you know, I have those friends where it's like I 978 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 2: can only take them in doses. Yeah I love them, 979 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 2: but like only for like a day and then I'm like. 980 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I remember why we. 981 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 4: Could pick this up next week, you know type of thing. 982 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 6: So completely understand it. 983 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story. We're going to 984 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 7: read the next one. 985 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Angie, your favorite Riley's girlfriend is here. 986 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 6: We're going to get back to the stories. 987 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 4: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 988 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: My friend's girlfriend sent us a lengthy complaint about my behavior. 989 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: We're cutting them both. 990 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 6: Snip snip. 991 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: My husband and I host a top game on a 992 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: semi regular basis until a few months ago that included 993 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: Joe and his girlfriend Carrie. Cool. Before I go into 994 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: what happened, let me give you a little background. By 995 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from user Flimsy two seventeen oh four, 996 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: and if you want submit your own stories. Go to 997 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: the r slash Okay storytime, supbred it. I'm key On 998 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: and I'm Savannah and we're here to give goofy advice. 999 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: We're just goofballs. We don't know much unfortunately, so see 1000 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: exactly that's all she knows. Dude again, see let us 1001 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: know what you guys do in the comments pretty please. 1002 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: As op says, my husband and I tried our best 1003 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: to be kind for Joe's sake, but Carrie is a 1004 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: difficult person. She thinks she's entitled to say and do 1005 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: whatever she wants. We're regardless of the consequences without comment. 1006 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 1: At one point, my husband said it's important to consider 1007 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: how our actions affect others, and she responds with, that's 1008 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: your opinion. In the tabletop game, when we were playing, 1009 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: whenever we started strategizing, her character would get bored and 1010 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: wander off to get attention by doing plot derailing things 1011 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: like breaking the law in front of the town guards. 1012 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: One way to ensure she brought something up all the 1013 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: time was to say now. She often brought up playing 1014 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: at their house, which was thirty minutes out of the way. 1015 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: She convinced Joe to go on a divorce show with her, No, 1016 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: they've never even been engaged. Then kept suggesting my husband 1017 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: and I could also get on TV and make a 1018 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: few hundred bucks, and she couldn't understand why we weren't interested. 1019 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: Worst of all, she often made tone deaf jokes about 1020 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: topics multiple people in the room had trauma with. Okay, 1021 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: this is a lot of background information of someone I 1022 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: already hate. I don't like this person. 1023 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean, she just seems like the absolute worst. 1024 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: She's absolute worst and the ultimate pick me. 1025 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 4: Yep. 1026 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: Now on the Joe. Joe was never the most punctual 1027 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: person in the world, but Carrie magnified that. They asked 1028 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: us to move the game to a weekday evening so 1029 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: Carrie could have the weekend for her occasional freelance work 1030 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: as a clown. Even with the move, they frequently canceled 1031 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: with little notice, often because Carrie had whoopsie planned something 1032 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: and forgot to put it on the calendar. Again. When 1033 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: they did show up, they could be over hour late, 1034 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: always very important reasons, like she really wanted McDonald's instead 1035 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: of the pizza we'd already ordered. It became such an 1036 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: issue that we moved the star time later, so naturally 1037 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: they started arriving later. This is what you do. Because 1038 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: I do this, I will call myself out. I am 1039 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: not punctual. 1040 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 2: I'm not either. I hate being like early or on time. 1041 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 2: I have to be late. 1042 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: My excuse is I'm Filipino. Filipino time is a thing. 1043 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: Don't hate me. 1044 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 4: But also, yeah, mine's teeter time. 1045 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. See, you get it, you get it. 1046 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, my whole family. 1047 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: So there is a thing to do with this. You 1048 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: set the time at say six pm, but reality it's 1049 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: set for seven pm. Like, hey, come at six pm. Cool, 1050 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: we have an hour to do whatever. Maybe get ready, 1051 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: but seven pms when things start. Yeah, great, that's all 1052 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: you do. Very easy solution. A couple of weeks before 1053 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: my birthday, I texted the group saying I had made 1054 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: plans for the weekends before and after the actual day 1055 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: and invited the group to join either Joe and carry. 1056 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: We're going to be out of town for both weekends. 1057 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: But at their suggestion, the group planned a low key 1058 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: game night on my birthday, which was a Tuesday. The 1059 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: saturday before, Joe cancels. Why does he cancel? He just 1060 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: remembered he had concert tickets that day. I hate people 1061 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: like this. 1062 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 6: It's so exhausting. 1063 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: It's like we want to include you because we like 1064 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 2: you there, but it's like you don't feel like you 1065 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 2: want to be here. 1066 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 6: There's always something more important. 1067 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: You always take and take and take, you never give. 1068 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: Joe said he was sorry. Carrie said, it's not my fault. 1069 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: I don't even like rock concerts. Let's move it to Monday. 1070 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: As they knew, Hubby and I had limited to no 1071 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: reception over the weekend, so even if I had wanted 1072 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: to coordinate rescheduling, it was too late. I wrote, I'm 1073 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: celebrating my birthday on the day I was born with 1074 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: whoever wants to join. That Tuesday, another friend got sick 1075 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: and we ended up canceling the night altogether for this. 1076 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: In various more serious, unrelated reasons, that week was really rough, 1077 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: Hubby and I decided to cancel our next game night, 1078 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: saying I was still feeling raw about everything and wasn't 1079 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: up for hangout just yet. Everyone else said they understood 1080 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: and to take care. Carrie, on the other hand, said 1081 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: if they they could still bring me a present. Oh, 1082 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: that's very nice of carry. Carrie asked, if they can 1083 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: still bring me a present? I said, I'd appreciate it, 1084 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 1: but just needed some space for the moment. She exploded. 1085 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: I got a lengthy text about how she doesn't like 1086 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: the way I've been speaking to her. They had gotten 1087 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: the tickets months ago. It was an honest mistake, and 1088 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: acting like we've done something wrong is not okay. She said. 1089 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: My text were aggressive and made her feel scolded, that 1090 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: I should have sent her a personalized message if I 1091 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: had a problem, and that I have no right to 1092 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 1: have a problem anyway. Oh so I just can't feel 1093 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: the way I want to feel. 1094 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 2: So not only can I not tell you what's on 1095 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: my mind, I also have no right to do that anyway. 1096 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: Their emotions invalid to carry, huh. At one point, I 1097 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: mentioned how deflating it can be to clean and prep 1098 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 1: a house only for people to cancel. So she suggested 1099 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: they help by hosting the game at their house. Oh 1100 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: and by the way, they'd like to come by really soon. 1101 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: With the present, the present got brought up a lot 1102 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: late in the conversation. They accidentally copy and pasted the 1103 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: full dialogue with Chad GPT they'd been and using to 1104 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: write to us. That's embarrassing. 1105 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 4: That is so funny that they're like yeah, we just 1106 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 4: can't deal with this chat gebut please tell me how 1107 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 4: to deal with this horrible, horrible friend. 1108 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea how to talk to one of 1109 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: my closest friends to do it for me chat GBT. 1110 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 4: I really need to give them the present right now. 1111 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 4: They need this present right now, or they'll hate me. 1112 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: Carrie defends using chat GPT by saying she was just 1113 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: using it to make the conversation less emotional, I mean fair. 1114 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: We could see she had written things like add in 1115 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: that I want monitor her feelings. I really did try 1116 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: to smooth things over, but ultimately she decided to walk 1117 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: away from the game. She told Joe she was going 1118 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: to show grace by stepping aside so that he can 1119 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: maintain a friendship with us. All she asked was he 1120 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: make it clear that he agrees we're being unfair and 1121 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: that she's done nothing wrong. The problem was my trauma, 1122 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: and he was not going to tolerate or calling her 1123 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: rude or insensitive. Well graceful as that was of her. 1124 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: Our friendship with Joe has also ended. Ooh, we have 1125 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: an update, but dang, that was really loud. Cleaning my 1126 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: hands of that because you're just a headache. Why am 1127 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: I always accommodating to her when she just sucks? She 1128 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: sounds toxic. No need to have her in my life anymore. Great, Sorry, Joe. 1129 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: If that's who you're with, and that's you know, the 1130 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: ship that's sinking, you're sinking with it, unfortunately. Bye. 1131 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, very self absorbed and just not empathetic at all. 1132 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: Zero accountability, doesn't care, zero empathy, zero sympathy. Great Bye, 1133 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't need you in my life. 1134 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 6: Good riddance. 1135 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: We have an update three months later. So I posted 1136 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: here a couple months ago about how my husband Hubby 1137 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: for Simplicity, and I ended a long standing friendship with 1138 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: Joe after an argument with him and his girlfriend Carrie. 1139 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 1: In short, they asked me to make plans on my birthday, 1140 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: canceled last minute when they remembered they had tickets to 1141 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 1: a rock concert, asked to bring a birthday president after 1142 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: I said I wasn't feeling up for hanging out, and 1143 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: sent me a lengthy tirade when I said a simple no. 1144 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,760 Speaker 1: At least, that was the breaking point. Really, the problem 1145 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: was Carrie is insufferable. She considers it a fundamental part 1146 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: of her personality to say and do whatever she wants, Wow, 1147 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: that sounds awful, and if anyone has a problem with that, 1148 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: it's on them and they have no right to comment. Wow. 1149 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: Double it, double the awful. 1150 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 4: So she can do whatever she wants and no one 1151 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 4: can do anything about it. 1152 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: And if you comment on it, you're a piece of crap. 1153 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: If you call me out on it, you suck. Wow. Ope, 1154 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: he continues, no, really, Her core issue with me was 1155 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: that I made passive, aggressive comments that made her feel 1156 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: like she had to censor herself from saying whatever she 1157 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: wanted about sensitive topics, like really really serious topics that 1158 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't be made fun of. 1159 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 5: Wow. 1160 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 1: I don't even need to read those. Those are both 1161 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: terrible things. When Helbi wrote, this isn't an attack on 1162 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: anyone's personality. I just think it's important to remember how 1163 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: sometimes comments and jokes can affect people because of their experiences, 1164 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: whether you meant it or not, she responded, that's your 1165 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: opinion and left the conversation. My opinion is that you suck, Carrie. 1166 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 6: She doesn't care. That doesn't count. 1167 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: Yah know, Carrie, Wow, surprising a girl named Carrie doesn't care. 1168 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: Carrie doesn't carry Oh, he continues, No, really, Her core 1169 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: issue with me was that I made passive, aggressive comments 1170 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: that made her feel like she had to censor herself 1171 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: from saying whatever she wanted about sensitive topics like really 1172 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: really serious topics that shouldn't be made fun of. Wow, 1173 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't even need to read those. Those are both 1174 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: terrible things. When Hebby wrote, this isn't an attack on 1175 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: anyone's personality. I just think it's important to remember how 1176 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: sometimes comments and jokes can affect people because of their experiences, 1177 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: whether you meant it or not, she responded, that's your 1178 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: opinion and left the conversation. My opinion is that you 1179 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: suck Carrie. 1180 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 6: She doesn't care. That doesn't county. 1181 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: I know, Carrie. Wow. Surprising a girl named Carrie doesn't care. 1182 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 6: Carrie doesn't carry. 1183 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: She later insisted on being included again in the conversation 1184 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: against my wishes, and said one more thing, then told 1185 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: us to never contact her again. I want to know 1186 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: that what was said. I am very happy to report 1187 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: that we have not heard from Carrie, since it may 1188 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: have something to do with my blocking her on every platform, 1189 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: but I'll never know. Unfortunately, it has not been as 1190 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: easy to avoid Joe even more. Unfortunately, he has wholeheartedly 1191 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: embraced his girlfriend's care free attitude about people's feelings, so 1192 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: he sucks as well. He's letting it happen and doesn't 1193 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: see anything bad or wrong with it. Cool. Okay, I 1194 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: really debated on how to explain the situation without making 1195 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: it obvious what activity it involves, but there's no helping it. 1196 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,919 Speaker 1: This is about a LARP, in the words of Jen 1197 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: barber Ich bin ein Nerd. For those who don't know, 1198 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: LARP or live action role playing is kind of interactive 1199 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: storytelling where players dress up as a character and engage 1200 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: in simulated combat and intrigue in a shared, imaginary fictional world. 1201 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, we tried out a LARP 1202 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: with a group of friends that included Joe, Hubby and 1203 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: I were instantly hooked. We have gone to just about 1204 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: every event and are responsible for a part of and 1205 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: setup of Takedown and getting that all ready and for fun, 1206 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: and have developed close friendships with many of other LARP players. 1207 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: Joe still goes more often than not. He tried bringing 1208 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: Carry once, but guess what, she wasn't a fan. It 1209 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: turns out she can be a clown or princess in 1210 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: the park. All day, but within a few hours of 1211 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: realizing she can't be the main character in a cooperative game, 1212 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: her outdoor allergies got so bad that Joe needed to 1213 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: leave the event and take her home. She hasn't been 1214 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: back since. So sad anyway, in a world where you 1215 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: can be anyone you want, Joe chose to be an 1216 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: a hole. His character is a conspicuously shady assassin. Whenever 1217 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: all the character whenever all the characters get together to 1218 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: strategize fighting the latest threat to town, he either refuses 1219 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: to be part of the conversation or he joins and 1220 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: calls everyone who disagrees with him stupid. He fought to 1221 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: get a specific item which was specifically or especially made 1222 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: for the game, and he hasn't remembered to bring it 1223 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: back since. One understood social guideline in the game is 1224 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: if you unlive a monster, you are typically entitled to 1225 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: loot it drops, which has in gain value. Joe is 1226 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: a notorious loute thief. At the last event, he was 1227 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: directly called out by multiple people for shyness wipe Blute 1228 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: out from under a brand new player. Those players who 1229 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: stick around long enough join guilts, which are small groups 1230 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 1: of people who pool in game skills and resources, stay 1231 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: in cabs together and generally have each other's backs. Joe 1232 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: has pointedly chosen to play alone and wears a blank 1233 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: guild banner to emphasize this. Oh no, he's a rogue, 1234 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: He's a lone wolf. He's a a hole. 1235 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 4: How hot of him? 1236 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: In short, he thinks he's playing the sneaky edgy loaner, 1237 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: but really he's just being a wiener. Heead for no reason. 1238 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: At the last event, we were hanging out with our 1239 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: friend Mac when he said, so, I'm team f Joe. 1240 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 5: Now. 1241 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: Apparently, while checking in, Mac had been chatting to one 1242 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: of the game owners about how a cashier told him 1243 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: he looked like an attractive actor. Joe was in the 1244 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: room and decided to join the conversation to say, eh, yeah, 1245 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: except for the gap in your teeth. Mack responded that 1246 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: it was better than Joe's face if he didn't walk away. 1247 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: Half of our LARP group is already over Joe's crap. 1248 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: He's pissed off three to four guilds to the point 1249 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: that they refuse to heal when he goes down. Guys, 1250 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 1: I got the ray gun revive me before our fight 1251 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: he moved cabins to stay closer to us. He's had 1252 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: to move back because people near us distrust him so 1253 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: much that his character will be unlived on site. If 1254 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: he approaches, several people downright avoid him. No one seeks 1255 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: him out. Hubby and I might have felt bad for 1256 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: Joe if he hadn't taken to following us around like 1257 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: a lost puppy. Every event we've seen him, he tries 1258 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: to talk to us and we walk away without a word. 1259 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: Wherever we go, Joe is there, silently sitting in a 1260 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: nearby corner within fifteen minutes. Hobby and I tried to 1261 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 1: test this and he ended up following us back and 1262 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 1: forth between buildings four to five times in just a 1263 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: couple of hours. We ended up unblocking him to say 1264 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: stop pestering us before we take formal action. He responded 1265 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: that we're pestering him by including his girlfriend, something they 1266 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: previously insisted on. He went out of his way to 1267 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: move cabins for us, and if you cannot handle me 1268 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: being there, then that is on you. 1269 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 6: He's learning from the best. 1270 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Holy Canoley, this guy's ravioli. Uh No, this guy's annoying. 1271 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 2: They hate when like your friends get in a relationship, 1272 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 2: and then that person is the person who they are with. 1273 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,280 Speaker 2: They start adapting their personality and traits, but they're bad 1274 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 2: traits and so annoying, and so it's just like, now 1275 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 2: you're turning into this other version, this now male version 1276 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: of this girl that we all. 1277 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 4: Hate, and now we have to hate you as well. 1278 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, we liked it before and now 1279 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 2: you're just another version of something everyone is annoyed with. 1280 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 1: Crazy to think that everyone hates you and your girlfriend 1281 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: and doesn't want to hang out with you, and yet 1282 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 1: we're the problem. 1283 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not them. They don't do anything wrong and 1284 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: no one's allowed to comment on them. 1285 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 1: They're great. The fact that you go to these events 1286 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: and literally everyone looks at you like you are the 1287 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: scum of the earth is insane. And everyone instantly sees 1288 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 1: you on site like it's literally on site or you're done, 1289 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 1: which is crazy, like like what's the point. How do 1290 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 1: you not feel bad? 1291 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 4: And then everyone refuses to revive you? 1292 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: How do you not feel bad? I would talk to 1293 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: other people and I don't want to say this, but 1294 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: if he's still continuing to be an a hole after 1295 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: a genuine conversation which you guys already had see if 1296 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: you guys can ban him. I mean, I love having communities, 1297 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: but like, this guy is just toxic for your community. 1298 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 4: And for everyone. It's not just like, you know, one 1299 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 4: person feels this way. 1300 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 2: There's like four or five guilds that are all like, Yeah, 1301 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 2: this guy sucks. 1302 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: We don't want to play with that's crazy. We got 1303 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: a little bit left. Let's see if it gets any crazier. Hope, 1304 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: he says. We don't know what he's hoping to accomplish 1305 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: with this. It's like he's playing the world's most annoying 1306 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: game of I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. 1307 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: This whole situation has really made me question some things. 1308 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: Several people commented on my last post that Hubby and 1309 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: I let a lot of things slide that we shouldn't have. 1310 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: You're probably right. At the time, We've been friends with 1311 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: Joe for nearly a decade, so it seemed like a 1312 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: lot to cut ties over his latest girlfriend. Even now, 1313 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: I still wonder whether Joe was always this way and 1314 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: we just overlook things, or he's changed to be more 1315 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: like his girlfriend Carrie. Either way, he's very thoroughly burned 1316 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: that bridge. I hope this is the last I'll post 1317 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: about this because Joe just leaves us, hopefully alone. That 1318 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: is the end of that story. I mean, if it's 1319 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: really getting to that point where see if you can 1320 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: ban them from that from warping. But if it has 1321 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: to get to like a restraining order, I don't know 1322 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 1: how it will happen or how it will work. But 1323 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: this guy just sounds like a walking headache. On top 1324 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: of that, his girlfriend Carrie is a bigger headache. So 1325 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: hopefully they just stay out of your lives and you 1326 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with them anymore. 1327 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they both sound like they you know, they do 1328 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: great with each other and not. 1329 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 6: With anyone else. 1330 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: Good for them, stay away from everyone else, Thank you, 1331 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: bye 1332 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,360 Speaker 7: And that's the end of the story.