1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Hello, professional homegirls. It's Shagirl Ebenez here and welcome back 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: to this week's episode. I am so excited about today's 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: conversation because we have an amazing guest joining us. Y'all, 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: her transformative journey from an ordained minister to spiritual coach 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: has truly captivated many. Our guest brings a unique perspective 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: that challenges conventional beliefs, inviting us to explore a broader 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: understanding of spiritualogy. Today's episode is a deep dive into 8 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: her evolution on this spiritual path, the nuances between religion 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: and spirituality, to the crucial aspect of protecting oneself through healing. 10 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: Brace yourselves for an engaging and insightful conversation from ordained 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: ministers to spiritual guide. We're about to embark on a 12 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: journey of navigating religion and spirituality. Are now all right 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: to my guests? Thank you so much for being on 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: the show. How are you? How are you doing? 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: I am well? How are you? You know? 16 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: All is cute. I just want to say that I 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: found you on one of my favorite YouTubers, Armand and 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: I have been obsessed with you and your insight every since, 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: so I'm super excited to be speaking with you today. 20 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, thank you. He is such a dear 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: friend of mine. So that's exciting. That's exciting. 22 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Yes, so let's dive in because I don't know how 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: much time you're going to give me, because I have 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: a thousand questions. Okay, So you serve as an ordained 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: minister for twenty years. Told us about that period in 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: your life. 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's twenty five years. I'm still ordained. Yeah, the 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: ordination doesn't go away. So I would say that I 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: was active in the church for maybe between fifteen and twenty. 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: That part of my life was very interesting. I'm non 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: denominational charismatic, so the whole speaking in tongues, laying out 32 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: of hands, the prophetic and actually walked in the office 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: of the prophetesce in church. So I had the opportunity 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: the honor of going around the country to various churches 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: all over the nation almost all fifty states, not quite 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: and yeah, and just doing you know, like revivals or 37 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: coming and speaking for a short period of time. I 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: also have had the honor of being in the same 39 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, at some of the same conferences and things 40 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: with some of the bigger name folks that you people 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: probably know on TBN or on any of the other 42 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: ones in the nineties and the early two thousands, I 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: would say that that was probably that was the most 44 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: enlightening or one of the most enlightening. That was really 45 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: my training ground. So but I always I never just 46 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: took things at face value because we didn't grow up 47 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: going to church every Sunday. My dad had grown up 48 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: in Chicago, and my grandmother and grandfather were kind of 49 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: like Baptist royalty in Chicago. My grandfather, Thomas Thomas was 50 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: a contemporary of Walter Hawkins and would routinely like compose 51 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: music with him. So they were kind of they were 52 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: like royalty, and so he grew u underneath the pew 53 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: and he didn't want that same thing for us, and 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: we won't talk about that. So I just grew up 55 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: learning from the Bible and listening to people on the radio, 56 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: and so I didn't understand this whole church thing. I 57 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: didn't get like the politics or whatever. It didn't make 58 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: any sense. And also to me, I just grew up questioning. 59 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: So if things didn't make sense that you're saying from 60 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: the pulpit, I'm gonna ask that got me kicked out 61 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: of a few places, but you know, hey, it's okay. 62 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: We here now. 63 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: So I just never took things at face value, and 64 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: things just like just simple things that they just people 65 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: were just like, well, just accept it because it's just 66 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, like like being able to logically look at 67 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: the Bible and seeing where it's like a cycle, let's 68 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: starts from one to the next. And to me being 69 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: also having a very scientific brain, I'm like, this looks 70 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: like a big experiment, honestly, And people did not want it. 71 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: That was just like pooh pood But I thoroughly enjoyed it. 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: I've walked in my gifts since I was knowingly, since 73 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: I was eight years old. 74 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I was about to ask you that, when did you 75 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: know that you wanted to become a minister. 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't think i'd ever necessarily wanted to become a missar. 77 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: That wasn't like on my list of things to be 78 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: in life. My prophetic gifts came on we'll say online 79 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: where I know they did in when I was eight 80 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: years old, through prophetic dreams, and then shortly thereafter the 81 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: whole baptism and the Holy Spirit, and my mom really believed, 82 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, she just nurtured all of that, so I 83 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: never it was never a problem. It was like breathing. 84 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: It was just like, oh, you know things, and it's 85 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: nat true, right absolutely, Oh you have the gift. Okay, 86 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: we're out here, you know. It was like it's just 87 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: like normal. Well, I got cold to ministry. I was 88 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: twenty seven years old, and I was assisting my aunt 89 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: and one of my aunts she had just had like 90 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: knee surgery, and we were just discussing things about the Bible. 91 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: I was going to church then regularly, and I went 92 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: to go do kind of my daily reading. And it 93 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: was unusual because this today, that particularly day of the 94 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: Bible fell open to Easikil. I believe it's the second 95 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: chapter of Ezikuilt, and in that chapter to begin the 96 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: first about six or seven verses in that chapter, basically 97 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: God's calling Ezikild to ministry and saying, I'm gonna give 98 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: you things to say to your people. I'm paraphrasing. They're 99 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: not gonna like it. They're gonna be very hard headed. 100 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: But if you don't say it, they're blood's on your hands. 101 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: If they don't. If they don't accept it, the blood's 102 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: on theirs. But if you don't say it. The blood's 103 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: on your hands. Wow. That was the day I got 104 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: called to ministry. 105 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Wow, I noticed, conversation is going to be amazing. So 106 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: I have to control my passion. If I am in 107 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: the presence of someone who I consider in my head 108 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: a spiritual mother, that I want to make sure my 109 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: language is not too colorful. 110 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: Oh, honey, you could be as colorful as you want. 111 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't care. Okay, it's only language. 112 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna talk about the heart and the spirit. So 113 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: when did you discover that there was more to spa 114 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: sit reality than what religion was providing. 115 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: Like I said, I always kind of knew it, but 116 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: I would say I exited the formality of Christianity. I 117 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: was about forty seven, forty eight years old, so it's 118 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: not been too terribly long and fifty five now look 119 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: at thank you. It was right after my second marriage, 120 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: like I was getting divorced and he, you know, he cheated. 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: It was really just a nasty little situation. And a 122 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: number of my very good church friends and even some 123 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: of the church family, they said this without saying it, 124 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: my physical blood family, it was kind of this, Well, 125 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: you chose, so you should have just waited on God. 126 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: Or maybe you weren't being a good enough wife and 127 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: that's why you strayed. Or you're a manager, you're this. 128 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: You know, you've got a director, you got all this, 129 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: and maybe you just weren't able to come home and 130 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: switch that off and be subservient. And this that the 131 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: fourth and I was like, ain't, no, no, no, none of 132 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: that got nothing to do with him having five outside girlfriends. 133 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: So therefore you know you're gonna put it all on me. 134 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: And I'm like, so this does not This no longer 135 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: works for me. This is insanity and a good girly 136 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: of mine at the time because I was just trying 137 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: to figure it all out. And she was like, girl, 138 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: you need to go watch you some tarot readings. And 139 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: I was like, you want you trying to send me 140 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: to Hell? No, I'm not doing it. And she was like, 141 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: You're not going to go to Hell. I was like, okay, 142 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: So I'm looking for answers and I get this. Every 143 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: Tarrant reading I'm reading, I was reading. I was watching 144 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: like Tyler's Terror at that point. This is years ago. 145 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: He was not nearly the big big name he is now, 146 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: and I'm watching him and He's just like, you know, 147 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: reading me for filth, and then there was a few 148 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: others that were just read. I was like, oh my gosh. 149 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: And then I started I was also going to a counselor, 150 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: and my counselor Anne at the time, well, I sat 151 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: down with her. I'm bawling my eyes out and I'm like, Okay, 152 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: this is cool. I said, but what else do you do? 153 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: And she's like, what do you mean? And I was like, 154 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: don't play with me. What else can I know? 155 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: You do something else? 156 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: Right? Because I'm picking something else up. I don't know 157 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: what it is. I can't put a name to it 158 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: right because I only knew church language. I didn't know 159 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: any other language for spirituality. And so she just kind 160 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: of looked at me and she was like, no one's 161 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: asked me that in twenty years. She was also an 162 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: energy healer and she's the one that explained what chakras were. 163 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 2: She took me through my first guided meditation, and I 164 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: tell you, the entire universe opened up to me on 165 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: that couch in Madison, Wisconsin in that moment. And after 166 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: that is when I really started like meditating. I started 167 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: learning everything I could about metaphysics, I studied the tarrot, 168 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: I started reading tarot, I started learning about astrology. I 169 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: got attuned as a reiki master teacher. Later on, I 170 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: got initiated as a unya kei shaman. Like I just 171 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: it just went on and on and on from there. 172 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I finally felt like this all 173 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: makes sense. 174 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: And it also feels like it also feels like spirituality 175 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: was waiting on you. 176 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, my higher self was waiting for my 177 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: third dimensional brain to catch up to me and catch 178 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: up to it. 179 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 180 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: You know. 181 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I like your story because 182 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: we don't. I haven't really seen a lot of ordained 183 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: ministers that are women and that are as open as 184 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: you are. And when you spoke about the time where 185 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: you know how you receive or how your church family 186 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: receive you in the midst of you going to a 187 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: divorce and everything with your husband's it made me think 188 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: about a lot of women that have resentment towards churches 189 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to the idea of being a good girl. 190 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to be we have to be pristine, yeah, 191 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: and perfect, But they get to do whatever it is 192 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: that they wanted to because a lot because what we 193 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: have to remember is the Bible the version of the 194 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Bible that we use now, so that would be the 195 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: King James version, and anything that is derived from the 196 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: King James version. That version was created in the sixteen 197 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: hundreds by King James of England and it was commissioned 198 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: for these monks and these leaders to translate the text 199 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: that was out. But if they wrote something he didn't like, 200 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: he made them change it or they would be put 201 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: to death. So when you see a lot of the 202 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: things in there that are like references to how women 203 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: should be treated and not speak and this and that, 204 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: how basically we're treated as property in the Bible, that's 205 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: a European colonial slant. That is a regal, you know, 206 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: a a monarchal, moniarchal slant to that. And so there's 207 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: a lot of different nuances in the text that have 208 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: been altered. I don't care what anybody says. They have 209 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: been altered to fit the narrative and to control the masses. Right, 210 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: If you go back to other texts, if you go 211 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: like to the Ethiopian Bible, for instance, if you read 212 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: the Gnostic books, you get a much broader perspective on 213 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: what this truly is, and it's a lot less you know, 214 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: women sit down, you know, just you know, you're allowed 215 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: to have slaves, you're allowed to do this, You're allowed. 216 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: It's much less of that, right. So, but that's yes, 217 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: that that I can't stand it. I can't see you. 218 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: And everybody else. I think we all don't like it. 219 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I'm actually shocked that there's still 220 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: a lot of folks that are in my age range 221 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: and maybe younger that you know, I speak like this 222 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: and they can't hear me immediately they're angry. How dare 223 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: I question the word of gold? Right? Well, that's man's interpretation. 224 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: That's man's translation. If you really get into this, now, 225 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: there's plenty of truth, and there's metaphysical truth, and there's 226 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: other truth in it. But you got to dig and 227 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: you can't just take it at the surface. 228 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: That's a fact, that's a fact. You gotta dig deep. 229 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: But then how deep can you go? Because I feel 230 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: like the truth is never ending. 231 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 232 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: The right beauty of it, yeah. 233 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 2: That's the beauty of it that I I can't tell 234 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: you how often. I have a whole other book in 235 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: the other room that I'm reading again about the hermetic principles, 236 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: and I've got other kmetic you know, spirituality that I'm reading. 237 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: And then when I read like some of the Gnostic 238 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: books like the Book of Thomas or the Book of 239 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: Nak and things like that, it's like I see something 240 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: new every time. Or I'll listen to someone talk about 241 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: a concept and I've listened to it fifty million times 242 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: and they they bring something else. I'm like, oh, whoa, 243 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: it is different. Yeah, it's amazing, It is absolutely amazing. 244 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: So what inspire you to help people help other people 245 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: in their spiritual journey? 246 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: Well, because being a minister period and just being who 247 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: I am, that's always been me. So I saw no 248 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: need and no reason to not help people. Then from 249 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: this more empowered place, this place of where I was 250 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: able to actually receive a greater healing and a more 251 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: complete like empowerment of self, And why wouldn't I not 252 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: want to help others to receive that in the way 253 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: that they need to. I have no issue with anybody. 254 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: If you if you if going to church and you're 255 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: a staunch Christian or staunch Muslim or whatever, I got 256 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: no issue with you, right, I will come to you 257 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: and help you and Creator will come through me in 258 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: the way that you can receive it. 259 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 260 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: So you know, it's just don't come for me, because 261 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm not bothering you for you, girl, That's why I don't. 262 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: That's why I tend to not be on YouTube as 263 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: much because invariably, and I can guarantee you you're going 264 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: to see some commentary on this. 265 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: You'll see see Oh. 266 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah it come m lady, read your Bible. I have 267 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: probably more than you have. Lady, you really need to, 268 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: you know. The only Jesus is the only way. Well 269 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to tell you, but the word Jesus, it 270 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: really means hail Zeus. So if you want to come 271 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: for me on something, you might want to use Yeshua 272 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: instead of Jesus because you're haling Zeus every time you 273 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: say that, people come from me because I then speak 274 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: the truth and I peel it back like every prayer 275 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: that you pray as a spell. That's the way. That's 276 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: just the reality of it. Yeah, it's the reality when 277 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: when you quote the verses, whatever you bind on earth 278 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: shall be bound in heaven. That is a binding spell. Yeah, 279 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 2: I don't know any other way to. 280 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what's so funny. When I got deep 281 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: into my spiritual journey, I was like, wait, we did 282 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: all this stuff in church. It's just different language, different words. 283 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: It is. It is. And when I started, and still 284 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: now today, I like to say that I'm bilingual. I 285 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: can still speak in church, and so that has actually 286 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: helped me with you know, helped a lot of people, 287 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: I think, come out of this dogmatic concept and of 288 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: Christianity and come into a Christ's consciousness, which is really 289 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: what this is all about. Yeah, raising your consciousness. So 290 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: it does help. So it prophesying is the same thing 291 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: as channeling. If I'm speaking in front of thousands, and 292 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: I've done that numerous times, and I've had a word 293 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: for the church, a word for the congregation, and I'm saying, 294 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: thus saith the Lord, that dada? What is that? That's 295 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: channeling right? Right? 296 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: So was it hard for you to or is it 297 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: hard for you to navigate between the balance of traditional 298 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: religious beliefs in diverse spiritual perspectives. 299 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: I just don't Yeah, so I I haven't been inside 300 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: of a church church, and I don't know. I think 301 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: the last time, and this was even before the spirituality, 302 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: I think I think the last time I was in 303 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: a church was when my old eldest daughter graduated with 304 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: a associates in theology and from a grew a church 305 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: a school in Milwaukee, and they had their graduation in 306 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: the church and my mom and I and my grand 307 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: my eldest granddaughter did and how many other granddaughters at 308 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: the time. My granddaughter went and she and I. It 309 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 2: was funny because you know, she were you know, we 310 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: we can still hit a good tambourine and we still 311 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: got it, you know what I'm saying. But we we 312 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: would giggle with one and I wasn't even in a spirituality, 313 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: I don't think too. I mean I was into it, 314 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: but not into it into it at that point. We 315 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: would just giggle because a lot of even what was 316 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: being said in that service was so I'm just a 317 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: lowly done right, And we would just look at each 318 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: other and laugh. But you know, then they go to somebody, 319 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, catch a holy ghost, and we was we 320 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: was right there with it, and taught my granddaughter to 321 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: two step like it was good, right, right, But I 322 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: don't I don't even go to church. Really, I don't 323 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: go to church. 324 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that you're no longer an active minister. 325 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, m hmm. Yeah, although I've my my YouTube. Folks 326 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: are like, you need to start actually doing the sermon 327 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: on Sunday mornings because I do mis preaching and there 328 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: are like Unitarian churches and things like that and whatnot, 329 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: and so it wouldn't be odd for me to do it. 330 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: I mean, doctor Larry Reid does it all the time, 331 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: you know, and he's got his Patreon everything, so it's 332 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: not unheard of, and so I might just do it 333 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: because I do miss it. 334 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that the great thing about you 335 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: is I think that how you say things is easy 336 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: to digest. So like, I feel like you could speak 337 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: it in a way where I think that any person 338 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: from any race, any background would be able to understand 339 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: exactly what you're saying. 340 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: I hope. So that's a very high compliment thinking, Yeah, 341 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: of course. 342 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm your biggest fan. One of the things that 343 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: I love that you said was you broke down a 344 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: difference between religion and spirituality. You said that religion is 345 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: being associated with codependency and spirituality is emphasizing co creation 346 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: and accountability. 347 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: I was like, that is a bar Wow, who said that? 348 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Why do you think. People still have a hard time 349 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: with understanding the difference between the two. 350 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Because we've been conditioned to be codependent. We've been conditioned 351 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: to believe that we in and of ourselves as individual 352 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: individual beings cannot sustain our own lives and that we 353 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: must be dependent on some other larger group or larger 354 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: structure in order to get through life. So just like 355 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people will say that they I mean, 356 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: if you think about it, then in a lot of ways, 357 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: we are very dependent upon our governments to do things 358 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: levels of government and we expect, like the federal government 359 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 2: to do all these things. For why that wasn't how 360 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: this was set up? Right. So with religion, it's much 361 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: easier to be able to come into a building someone 362 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: is telling you what to do. They're reading the Bible 363 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, they're telling you to read it for yourself, 364 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: and yeah, you crack it open on that moment and 365 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: you probably read it. But they're telling you this, and 366 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: then they're giving you their interpretation. And then you've got 367 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: singing and music that's going to get you into a 368 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: hapnotic state of euphoria because the frequency of music will 369 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: get you to a specific place. This and there's nothing 370 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: wrong with that. So this brings you up to this 371 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: euphoric and this ethereal stage, and this person is also 372 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: bringing this to you. And so now I can just 373 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: take that I don't necessarily have to think for myself. 374 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have to process for myself. And if 375 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm being told that unless I'm good, and this is 376 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: what the book says to unless you do these things, 377 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: then you're not going to receive blessing and you don't 378 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: deserve it. But this is programmed into our brain by religion, 379 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: from Nehi to a duck. You don't deserve it, right, 380 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: you need to ask for salvation or atonement at one month? 381 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: Why do I have to ask to be at one 382 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: in my mind and my being at one men with 383 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: that which created me and that which I am a 384 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: part of. At what point am I not add one 385 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 2: with that? So these are the things that happen right 386 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: over the course of time, and so it is difficult 387 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: to break out of the mold and out of the 388 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: matrix and step outside the rules that we've been given 389 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: in the box that we're supposed to stand in and 390 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: actually say, oh wait, I can do this, and I'm 391 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: not saying that I am supreme. I am simply saying 392 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: that I am a spiritual being having a human experience 393 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: that I chose to have, and that I have the 394 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: capability to create my world to my highest good. Facts. Fact, 395 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: that's a lot of power that they don't want you 396 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: to have. 397 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: You made a really good key point about the power 398 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: of things, and you said that if you can visualize it, 399 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: that means that it's real. It already happened. It's just 400 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: a matter of you not being in that timeline where 401 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: it's going on there. And I'm like, wow, I'm like, 402 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: because the things that's happening for me right now, I 403 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: already saw it. So when I heard you say that, 404 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm just like that is so true. Like I'm the 405 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: physical part of me is just not in that part 406 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: of the timeline yet. 407 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. I mean think about it this way 408 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: like inventors, Right, what do inventors do. They visualize an 409 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: invention and then they put it down on paper and 410 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: then they go about creating it. That's all we do. 411 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: We're just inventing, right, That's how we're wired. That's really 412 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: how we're wired. So when you visualize it and you 413 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: can get it to the point where you can feel it, 414 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: tastes it, touch it, where you can allow it to 415 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 2: drop down into your being, where your whole body can 416 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: vibrate at that frequency you send out this energy that 417 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: says that's it. 418 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 419 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: Right, you still have to really recondition your mind, but 420 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 2: once you start this process, you don't have it doesn't 421 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: take too much to recondition your Like now, it's really 422 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: super easy. Now now I have to be careful what 423 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: I think because what I think will be manifest almost immediately. Yeah. 424 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Man, that is so true. And you know it's so funny. 425 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: Me and my cousin we talk about this all the time, 426 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: how we feel like we really are in. 427 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: The matrix because you are. 428 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And every time I watch the Matrix, I always 429 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: see something new, and I'm like, I feel like the 430 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: world that we live in is so like spooky, like 431 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: it can't be really. 432 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever I had this really. I was in 433 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: Milwaukee assisting a friend god back in April of last year. 434 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: I think it was late March, Arliapril. Have you ever 435 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: been into a crowded place and you feel like you're 436 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: the only real person and that everybody else is just 437 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: kind of like like extras on a movie. 438 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: Set, you know what's so funny. So I live in 439 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: New York and I have to go through this crowded 440 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: train station, right, okay, And when I'm walking through sometimes 441 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: I just stand there and I'm like, this can't be 442 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: real because it's moving so fast. Why. Yes, I have 443 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: that feeling all the time. 444 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: I have walked into crowded stores or wherever, and I 445 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: just kind of look around and I'm like, you all 446 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: really aren't real, So why am I creating all of 447 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 2: you in this time and in this space, in this moment. 448 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: It's as if I'm Neia walking through you know the 449 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: scene where he walks down the street and you know 450 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: he bumps into the lady with the red dress. 451 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I feel in the train stations. 452 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, Okay, this isn't really And I don't know. 453 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: I just kind of stuff it off sometimes. But it 454 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: just you when when you're actually like, when you become 455 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: enlightened to a certain in a certain level I guess 456 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: or manner, then the rest of the world kind of 457 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: feels a little strange, right, And then I begin to 458 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: question other, really eight billion people on this planet or 459 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: is that what they're telling us. Just could this planet 460 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: really hold eight billion people? I think so, I don't know. 461 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes I even question whether or not we as melanated people, 462 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: as the true minority or not, or is that what 463 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: they're telling us? 464 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: And if the others are the minorities? 465 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: Right, Like, I don't know, Like it just feels that 466 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: way because we were the first. Yeah, so I don't know. 467 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: So these are just things that every one in while 468 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: I go down the weird rabbit hole. Yeah, absolutely, the Matrix. 469 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: You've had to see all four movies, I don't care. 470 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: The fourth one was actually really good if you haven't 471 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: seen it. 472 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I thought the Fourth Form was pretty good too, even 473 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: though a lot of people didn't like it. 474 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Because they went over their heads. Yeah, it went over 475 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 2: their heads. 476 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you think they meant to put a movie like 477 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: that out? Like, do you think that they were trying 478 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to tell us something with movies like that? 479 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: You know, there is a theory, there's been this theory 480 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: for many, many mania decades now that they have to 481 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: put truth out so before major catastrophes happen, before a 482 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 2: major any type of major event happens, they have to 483 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: somehow hint at it. In the media to tell us 484 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: what's going to happen beforehand. Now, some people say that 485 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: they have to tell us that, so that for whatever reason, 486 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: I personally am beginning to feel like they do that. 487 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: Not so much so that we know the truth if 488 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: we're discerning, but because nothing can get created in the 489 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: earth until a human being or one that is walking 490 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: as a human being, actually speaks it or puts it 491 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: out into this universe, into the matrix. It has to 492 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: be programmed into the matrix somehow, And so subliminally this 493 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: is hot off the press. Subliminally, if they program enough 494 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: of our brains by watching movies and television shows and 495 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: they put it in here and we don't even realize 496 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: it's in there, then we actually be wow, this is good. 497 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: Then we actually begin to create the reality that they 498 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 2: want us to create. So when you ask me, are 499 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: there movies made on purpose? Yes, because it's not all dark, right, 500 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: it's not all shadow. So I do believe that there's 501 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: that those movies are made. If you go watch Disney movies, 502 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 2: I actually go watch Disney movies. Not well, I'm wicked. 503 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: But if you watch the Disney movies, like Wish was excellent, 504 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: Wish will teach you how to manifest like nobody. Business 505 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: wish will teach you how to get in touch with 506 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: your spirit guides like none other. So I always see 507 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: certain things in these movies that I'm like, Wow, that 508 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: is a metaphysical reality. X Men, Avengers, all of that 509 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: those that's metaphysical reality. So yes, they did it on purpose. 510 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that is crazy because there's been so many 511 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: movies that's been that came out and then next thing, 512 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, years later, it actually happened. 513 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 514 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, what are your thoughts on when people say 515 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: that like psychis and mediums and terror car readers and 516 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: things of that nature are scams, Because obviously, in a 517 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: recent couple of months, a lot of things that have 518 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: been prophesied by psychics and mediums or just people within 519 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: the spiritual realm have came to fruition, but people still 520 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: don't believe it. So why do you think people still 521 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: have their doubts. 522 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: It's uncomfortable for them to believe that there's something outside 523 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: of what NBCCBS, ABC, Fox News tells them, Right, It's 524 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: uncomfortable for them, Like it's easier to say, oh, that's 525 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: just a big and listen and I'm gonna be honest, 526 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it a buck. There are a ton 527 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: of scammers out there, so I can't fault anybody for 528 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: thinking that, right, But I would also just say, don't 529 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: you don't lump everybody in the same group, right, We're 530 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: not all the same. And also a lot of the 531 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: things that the prophets have, So there's some people that 532 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: are gonna say, well, I'm not a psychic, I'm a prophet. 533 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm a prophet. Test Okay, Kobe, cool, whatever, But that's 534 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: I mean. But they'll say, well, I'm just speaking from God. 535 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: Well you don't know that I'm not, just because I'm 536 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: not using the same language. You're gonna see a lot 537 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: more coming. Something I just said recently at the time 538 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: of this taping was that we were going to have 539 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: five more leaders or icons fall or be exposed between 540 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: one eleven and one twenty five. We actually, at one 541 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: on the January tenth, had one beginning to be exposed, 542 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, you're early, but watch that, 543 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: we're going to there's going to be five more. I 544 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: keep hearing the number five and five is the number 545 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: of change, and it's the number of quick, aggressive kind 546 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: of change. Right, that's needed. So I just we're gonna 547 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: have five more in that two week time. 548 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Period, and these are people that we know absolutely. 549 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm feeling that three of them will probably 550 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: be from the church. That one I'm not as certain of. 551 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: But I'm really feeling three of them and the ones 552 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: from today is from the church. So I think I'm 553 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: really feeling it's going to be three more from the church. 554 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: What do you see happening with the what church is 555 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: in the future. 556 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: From the beginning, I don't. I think the time of 557 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: the mega church is ending the physical megachurch. We've always 558 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: said for years and years and years, we've always prophesied 559 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: that the church would return to the early church, true 560 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: church days where people met house to house for all 561 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: of these structures, right, So I do think that we're 562 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: going to go back to that. Will there no longer 563 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: be local churches? There probably will be. I don't. I'd 564 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: like to say that the megachurch is going to go down. However, 565 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: people love to be a part of something that's just huge, 566 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: and they, you know, like the glitz and the glamour. 567 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: So unless a lot of these ministers get exposed for 568 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: the truth of the matter, they probably, but it just 569 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: it won't They're not going to have as much power. 570 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: M I feel like this is the this is the 571 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: year of truth. Everything that is and dark it's gonna 572 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: come to light. 573 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: It is you will reap with This is an eight year. 574 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: It is both a karmic year and a harvest. Here 575 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: you are reaping what you have sown. Yeah, so I 576 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: hope you sowed good seed. 577 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: Oh I definitely sell some good seeds. 578 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: I know you did. 579 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Come on, listen and wait me and my God is 580 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: so tight. I'm so happy to meet him on the 581 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: same page. 582 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: Now. It is beautiful. It is. It is beautiful. And 583 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: you know if I don't you asked me before about 584 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: how I balanced the Sorry I walk this line. I 585 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: just choose to be open about how I'm referring to God, right, 586 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 2: if that's how you need to hear me, say, talk 587 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: about Creator, Spirit, mother, father, God, the universe? What have 588 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: you at that time? Right? But it is what it is. 589 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: Don't you get the message exactly? 590 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: I don't have a feeling about it. I'm very neutral. 591 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 2: When you get to this, you get to a point 592 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: where you're just kind of like, E, it is what 593 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: it is, right? Why do I need to have a 594 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: feeling and emotion and energy about it. I can put 595 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: my energy elsewhere. 596 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't, Right, So let's talk about spiritual warfare. How 597 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: do you interpret the concept of spiritual warfare that's mentioned 598 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: in Ephesians six twelve? And do you believe that we 599 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: are currently experiencing spiritual warfare? 600 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 2: Now? 601 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: I know you're about to get in your bag with 602 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: this one. 603 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: That is a very interesting So do I believe we're 604 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: in spiritual warfare? Yes, but I don't. I don't know 605 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: if it's spiritual warfare as much as it is a 606 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 2: birthing process, because the we wrestle out against flesh and blood, 607 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: but against principalities and powers. Right, So there are principalities, 608 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: there are powers. There is this kind of hierarchical structure 609 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: in the spiritual realm that is that contains the third 610 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 2: dimensional and the reality is the warfare kind of boils 611 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: down to are you going to only be within your 612 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: humanity or are you actually going to step outside of 613 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 2: your human you being human and realize that you actually 614 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: are a spiritual being? So yes, is there warfare? Yes? 615 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: Because there is still the spirit ritual entities or the 616 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: shadow entities, that have controlled this earth and they don't 617 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 2: want to lose control period. Right, there are those of us, 618 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: a number of us who have awakened to wake no no, Now, 619 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: we're meant to be this, and we're getting into our 620 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: power and sitting on the seat of our throne and 621 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: breaking free from that. So that inevitably is kind of 622 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: warring in nature. I just don't know that I fight 623 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: that battle as much as I use. It's like it's 624 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 2: not all consuming, because light always wins. That's a fact. 625 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 626 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 2: And the true warfare may or may may be truly 627 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: within ourselves. Because as you release shadow as you, which 628 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: is trapped light, then you become more empowered. And every 629 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: time you break free from a chain, break free from 630 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: a shadow, break free from something that's programmed in your head, 631 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: the earth bound beings or whatever lose that much more 632 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: control over you. 633 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you are really like I really believe 634 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: what you're saying, because I feel like when I was 635 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: going through my challenges and hardships, like I really thought that, 636 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: oh my God, like it's something must be going on 637 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: with every case. Maybe, but once I was able to 638 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: overcome that and like really fight my way through to 639 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: a place where I knew I deserve to be it. 640 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: I have never felt so light, and I'm like, maybe 641 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: it was just the warfare that was within me. 642 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: And so there is your own personal warfare, right, I 643 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: am being directed to just do say this. There are principalities. 644 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: There are beings that are you know, the church would 645 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: say demons that are assigned. I would say maybe, or 646 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: it's you know, beings that are like, this is my fifedom, 647 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 2: this is my little part of the kingdom. You know, 648 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: that's a whole deep discussion. I haven't really gone down 649 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 2: and really sorted that out, but I have been city. 650 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: I used to get called into different cities, in different 651 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: towns to break curses or contracts over the spiritual contracts 652 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: over an area that would let's say, for instance, keep 653 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 2: that area in poverty, keep that that area may have 654 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 2: a higher than normal percentage of like bipolar or severe 655 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 2: mental health or things like that. And I would literally 656 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: be I would see where the contract was, the sacrifice 657 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: was made, and the contract was brought so that this person, 658 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 2: the individual human, could have whatever level of power, but 659 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 2: that this spiritual entity then would basically have lordship and 660 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: rulership because they cannot until a human being gives it 661 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 2: to them, right, so that it does exist, I think 662 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: I just deal with it a little differently now than 663 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 2: I used to. 664 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: And who called you for this? Like how do they 665 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: know about the contract? Or how do they know that 666 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: they need someone like you to come in? 667 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: It'll? It would in the church days, it would just 668 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 2: be like, hey, you know, can you come? And you 669 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: know when you come, can you also do a prayer 670 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: over the city or over the town or whatever the 671 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: piece may be. So it wouldn't necessarily be like they knew, 672 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 2: but they were led to ask me to do that, right, 673 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 2: and then I would go to whatever high place. I 674 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: vividly remember this. On numerous times I would be led 675 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 2: to the high place that the sacrifice was made at. 676 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 2: And it's it's interesting because if with individuals and with 677 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 2: you know, large areas, I literally it's like a movie 678 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: that plays in front of me. I literally see everything, 679 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: and then I know exactly how to go about dismantling 680 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,280 Speaker 2: and canceling that contract. 681 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: So this brings me to my next question when it 682 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: comes to understanding the principle of karma, and how does 683 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: that relate to the concept of karmic debt. 684 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: Karmic debt is to me, my interpretation of it is, 685 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, when you've done something against somebody else's will 686 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 2: or maliciously. You know what I'm saying, that you build 687 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: up this all because everything always has to get balanced. 688 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: So if there's pain over here, somebody still has to 689 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: pay that debt for inflicting that pain. We'll just put 690 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 2: it like that. So as far as karmak debt that 691 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: and spiritual warfare, I don't think you can equate the 692 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: two like we have there. And and sometimes some of 693 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: that karma is just simply inhumanity, like being human right 694 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: where there's just certain things we can't do that we 695 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: would be able to do as a completely spiritual being. 696 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 2: And I remember listening to sad Guru years maybe last year, 697 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: year year before that, and he said that the greatest 698 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: spiritual leaders have the greatest amount of karma because it's 699 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 2: what keeps us human and what reminds us to remember 700 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: to have compassion for ourselves, and in that way we 701 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: then have compassion for humanity. So karmic debt is a 702 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 2: little sticky one. It's sticky because some people think, oh 703 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: my god, I got all this kmma to payback blah 704 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, and you probably don't. But then 705 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: there are other people that I'm looking. I'm like, okay, 706 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: you all this dirt that you're doing, you know you're 707 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: gonna come back here again, and you gotta repay that debt, right, 708 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: The debt must be repaid. It's either gonna get repaid 709 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 2: in this lifetime or the next. But the debt really 710 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: be repaid, you know. 711 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that because I was like, dang, 712 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: it's crazy how you really try to be a good 713 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: person in this lifetime, but your past life there's some 714 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: crazy stuff and you can't wonder why you can't catch 715 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: a break. 716 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: Yes, and then some then then people like me come 717 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: in and say, I see this from a past lifetime. 718 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 2: That's why this is going on now, right, right, And 719 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 2: so then we can work through that process. 720 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: Right, can we? Inherit karmic debt from our ancestors? 721 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 2: I would not say that it's karmic. I would say 722 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 2: that we that there are generational things that do get 723 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: handed down in my bloodline. Definitely on both sides. Domestic 724 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 2: violence was rampant on both sides of my family, and 725 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm certain that I'm the one that came to break that. 726 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 2: We would call it the church curse. Yeah, So I've 727 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: done a lot of clearing. I've seen that for a 728 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: lot of people where I'm like, whoa, Oh, you're the 729 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: one that's meant to break this. Let's get it, let's go, right. 730 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: So I don't call it karmic dead because that's like 731 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 2: personal because there's dharma. You build up good credits, and 732 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: there's karma there's bad credits, right, So that's very personal. 733 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 2: So I would really technically call it more of a curse. 734 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And why does Karmacdu's always come in threes. 735 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: That's the perfect number, right, So just like there's a 736 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 2: trinity with God right now, the Father, God's son, got 737 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit. If you go to almost every I'm 738 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: short on any one of them, mouth off at the 739 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 2: top of my head. Spiritual, spiritual practice, there's always a trinity. 740 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: There's all always a three. Had a three play cord 741 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 2: is not easily broken. So with things in threes, it's 742 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 2: like that's the perfect number. So that's what happens in threes, 743 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: That's happened in threes, you know, all the all these 744 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: different things will happen in threes three six nine right, 745 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: three six nine is the tesla numbers. That's the numbers 746 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 2: of manifestation. Like, so that's why it happens in threes. 747 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: Oh, my mind is is going crazy now because you're right, 748 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: everything does happen in threes. All right, So let's talk 749 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: about something that is really spicy. So I feel like, 750 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: because of the past couple of things that's been going 751 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: on within are just within social media and current events, 752 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been talking about sex magic. 753 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yes, what do you want to know? So 754 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: do is that? 755 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, I believe in it and I know 756 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: that it's something that can happen, But like, has this 757 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: always been around. 758 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 2: Or like god, yes, yeah, as long as humans have 759 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: been having sex, magic has been around. Yeah, it's always 760 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 2: been around. Okay, I'm gonna give you a real easy 761 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 2: sex magic. How many times have you ever heard did 762 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 2: your mama or grandmama yane tea somebody tay if you 763 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: wanted to get this some that man, you got to 764 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 2: put it on them. Good. Yeah. So what do you 765 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 2: think you're doing. You're manipulating his brain, You're manipulating. Magic 766 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 2: is just a manipulation of energy. If When you really 767 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 2: understand sex magic, though, then you can utilize sex magic, 768 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 2: either with a partner or even by yourself to bring 769 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 2: your manifestation into the earth, to birth it into the 770 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 2: earth faster. When you really understand how to use sex magic. Now, 771 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: just as much as the light side should understand it, 772 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 2: the dark side does, the shadow side does as well. 773 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 2: So you'll find more. It has been historically more of 774 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: those that work dark magic that do sex magic right, 775 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: But there is good sex magic. But that's also why 776 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 2: a lot of these very heinous crimes happen, because there 777 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: are there are certain energies that one can harvest reap 778 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 2: that one can unleash by doing certain things to people 779 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 2: while they're in a state of fear. You're you're an 780 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: injury to the sacral chakra and to the root chakra, 781 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: but especially the sacred chakra. Is so it's so horrible, 782 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 2: but that that root create, that that source of creative 783 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: power you're sacle chakra for those that don't know, or 784 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 2: is your reproductive organ area, whether you're male or female, 785 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 2: and injury to that that is a very powerful I mean, 786 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: if you think about it, that's how human life is 787 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 2: brought into the earth. Animal life is brought into the earth. 788 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 2: So when you do when you when you injure that area, 789 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 2: it's and and you and you harvest that energy in 790 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 2: a ritualistic fashion. It's very powerful and very potent. That's 791 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 2: why they do it. 792 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: So are the ways that people can protect themselves from 793 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: this or just like when it comes to energy transfer, 794 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: when it's like negative but you don't know it, or 795 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: you may know it, but the person think you don't 796 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: know it, Like, how do you protect yourself from that? 797 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 2: I believe that the strongest defense is a very strong offense. 798 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 2: So I say that to say this, there are plenty 799 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: of protection and you know, rituals. There's even wearing what 800 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: we think is evil the evil eye is actually a protection. 801 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 2: There are protection stones like heematite and obsidian. There are 802 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 2: you know, protection incense. Actually, I've got some frank incense 803 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 2: actually diffusing behind us. There's a fabulous protection. Yeah, just 804 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: have frankensonse or mrh. And you know there's old school, 805 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 2: you know, there's who do things and that actually do work. 806 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 2: You know about salt at the doors and things like that. 807 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 2: But the easiest and strongest way, which is one of 808 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 2: the reason why I love having colored through Christianity. Is 809 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: I don't depend on any of that. That that's a 810 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: great physical representation of what's happening in the spirit realm. 811 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 2: It could be the most you can be the most. 812 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: You're the most protected when you're the most hole and healed. 813 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 2: So doing your work right, doing that shadow work, doing that, 814 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 2: you know that self healing, that self work, because when 815 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 2: that happens, you yourself are no longer subject to the 816 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 2: victimizer that knows that. You know, you're really a great 817 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 2: relationship with your daddy. Is you're looking forward replacement or 818 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 2: you've always felt like you were less than, so they're 819 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 2: gonna swoop in and make you feel like you more 820 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 2: than enough and then take from you. You know what 821 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying. So that energy of being, that that of 822 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 2: being like, oh I'm injured in this way, that energy 823 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 2: doesn't get sent out when you heal. Yeah, that's the 824 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: greatest protection. Is healing, the greatest protection, Stronger than anything 825 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: I can ever tell you to do. 826 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what are your thoughts when it comes between 827 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: worshiping deit de ets and idle worship? How do you 828 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: feel about that? 829 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 2: Tea? Y'all? Wow? How do I say this? In the 830 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: Book of Thomas, Jesus himself says, do not worship me. 831 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 2: Yeshua himself says, do not worship me. There are other 832 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: places that it is stated do not worship. Yes you, 833 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 2: I think worship in and of itself. It depends on 834 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 2: how far it can it goes right where it can 835 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 2: become idolatry. If you get to this point where you 836 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 2: can do nothing without the okay of or no blessing 837 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 2: can come to you un last you, you know, jump 838 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 2: up and down five times and stand on your head 839 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: for two minutes and whatever, and that's the only way 840 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna get blessed or get this. Then I think 841 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,320 Speaker 2: that becomes idle worship because you no longer are honoring 842 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 2: the divinity within you and no longer honoring the capabilities 843 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 2: and creative abilities you were already born with. That one's 844 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 2: a little sticky for me, because you know, I don't 845 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: know how far we want to go with this, because 846 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 2: I mean there's some I'm not gonna do that on 847 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 2: your platform. I will say this, I'm not sure. I just. 848 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: Don't touch the surface because I really want to hear 849 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: what you have to say. 850 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: There there are some schools of thought at this point 851 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 2: in time that are questioning who the God of the 852 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 2: Bible truly is. 853 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 1: And what do you mean by that meaning? 854 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 2: For instance, if God, the God that we say is 855 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 2: the God of the Bible is love, he's not a 856 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 2: selfish god, he's not a jealous god, and he's not 857 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: a god that's that's that you. Why are we to fear? 858 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 2: But then we teach and then they say, oh, that's 859 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: a holy fear. Na. Fear is fear. I say that word. 860 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 2: There's a specific energy. So and I've studied the Bible 861 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 2: for anybody that's gonna come come becoming it don't don't play. 862 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 2: I understand what is saying, but why I don't get it. 863 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me, and it never did. 864 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 2: How the God that is love can be the same 865 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 2: God that rains down fire, that floods, that kills, that 866 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: tells an one specific set of people that they have 867 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 2: the right to go through and murder all these other 868 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 2: people if they don't decide that they're going to put 869 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: down their gods and worship the God of Abraham, Isaac 870 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 2: and Jacob. That don't sit with me, right, Because anybody 871 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 2: that's walking in love knows that's not the kind of 872 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: we don't put that on anybody, right, there's not that. 873 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: So what God is this? I don't know. I'm just 874 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 2: just food for thought. Also, one might want to really 875 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 2: study the Bible, because the Bible is the most plagiarized 876 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: collection of literature that no one has ever given any 877 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 2: credit to for anything else. Because you will find every 878 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: last one of those the stories in the Bible, especially 879 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 2: in the Old Testament. You will find them all throughout Kintics, Sumerian, 880 00:54:50,840 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: ink and Maian, Indigenous American, Indigenous South American, everywhere. You'll 881 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: find those same stories, exact same And there's thirteen other 882 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 2: sacrificed or crucified messiahs throughout human history. 883 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: So should we follow the Bible, because I know the 884 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,439 Speaker 1: Bible is lays rise. 885 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 2: I think the Bible is a great source of Yes, 886 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 2: we can follow the Bible, but I would just be 887 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 2: discerning about what's followed. There's so much depth and like 888 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 2: in just understanding how to truly operate this matrix. There 889 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: really is a lot there. But what don't feel right? 890 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 2: You gotta you gonna, I mean, come on now, women 891 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 2: need to shut up and sit. 892 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: Down and be quiet, right, Like I'm on out God, 893 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: that ain't it. 894 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 2: We're supposed to were supposed to be all every year, 895 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 2: so ready all the time to give it up to 896 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 2: our husbands. But they ain't got to be ready to 897 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 2: give it. Nah, man, come on. 898 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: Right, that's so funny, as you said that, because I've been, 899 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: haven't I don't feel like i've been. So I read 900 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: a lot, right, I read a new book almost like 901 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: every week, and i've been. I feel like I've been 902 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: being pulled to read the Bible. 903 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 2: Then do it? Hm, then do it. But now you're 904 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 2: going to read it with open eyes. You're not going 905 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 2: to read it with what does later say, church brain? 906 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 2: You're not gonna read it with church brain. Right, you're 907 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 2: open now. So anytime I read the Bible now, it's 908 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 2: very different. I see things very differently now than I 909 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 2: did before, and I get so much more out of 910 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: it now. 911 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So do you think that that worship worshiping 912 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 1: idols would change over time? 913 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 2: That worshiping idols will change? 914 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, do you see a changing in the future. 915 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 2: I think third dimensional beings typically always need something to 916 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 2: worship outside of themselves. 917 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: That's a fact. 918 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I can't say that for sure. 919 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a fact. My grandma used to always say. 920 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: I used to ask, so who does she believe in? 921 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: What does she believe in? And she said, I believe 922 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: in me. Resisted, That is my I said that all 923 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: the time. Like I believe in God obviously, but like 924 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: I really do believe in me. I feel like everything 925 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: that I need is within reach or within me. 926 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: It is m and I do. I love you know, Creator, 927 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 2: and I love Spirit and Source. Right, So it's not 928 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: it's not that, it's not that I'm being disrespectful in 929 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 2: the least spit. It is that when you truly have 930 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 2: the concept of atonement right at one meant meant is 931 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 2: like a container or your mind or your mentality. Right, 932 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 2: I am at one mind, spirit, body, and soul. Right, 933 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 2: so when you reach at one minut. I have gratitude 934 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: every day, multiple times a day for everything that I 935 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 2: have been, that that I have, that I have been 936 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 2: blessed with. And I still use the bird blest because 937 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 2: I know it's a blessing gratitude for it. But I 938 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 2: do not come to source true Spirit, to Creator hat 939 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 2: in hand, begging facts like a common peasant. Why would I. 940 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: M that was a bar right there. I ain't coming 941 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: to God begging. Listen, I'm on his strongest soldiers. I 942 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: got this, you know right right. 943 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm a child, I'm an aspect of I came from. 944 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 2: Why would I beg I'll tell you what. My kids 945 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 2: don't come begging me for nothing. They're grown too, they say, hey, ma, 946 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: I oh you got They don't begre Gonna be direct 947 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: over here, hope I have to say, is hey, ma, okay, 948 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: what you need? 949 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: Now we have two more questions. Is there such a 950 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: thing as selling your soul to the devil? 951 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: Yes, m Now how you define the devil is whatever, 952 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 2: But there is such a thing. The way that we 953 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 2: would understand it is selling your soul. But you make 954 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 2: a choice if you wish to go down the dark 955 00:59:52,360 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 2: path and get the earthly, the third dimensional prosperity in 956 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 2: abundance quickly, okay, quickly, or you want to take the 957 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: route that it's probably gonna take it a little bit longer. 958 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily have to, but it's a true way, 959 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 2: and it's a light way, and it's a way that's 960 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 2: not going to harm anybody else. So absolutely, you can, absolutely, 961 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 2: and absolutely there are sacrifices made for fame. 962 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, When do you think this will all come out? 963 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Because I feel like everyone knows, but we don't have 964 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: like there's not like concrete evidence, or do you think 965 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: there is concrete evidence. 966 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: I think that there is concrete evidence. I think that 967 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 2: a lot of the people, Cassie, for instance, I can't 968 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 2: tell anybody what to do about their paying, like I mean, 969 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 2: and she got paid good for her. But I was 970 01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 2: really hoping that we would actually see a trial. The 971 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 2: problem is is when now I'm gonna go completely earth 972 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 2: bound for right now? The problem is is when we 973 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 2: see these childs, for instance, in New York or California 974 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 2: and at the LA. I don't know if northern California's 975 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I know LA. The LA court system and the New 976 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 2: York court system is like this. For sure. They don't televise, 977 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 2: that's a fact, so they could do all kinds of 978 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 2: clownery and tom foolery. And we've seen that happen over 979 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 2: and over again. So we even if they even if 980 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 2: it goes to court, when it's not televised, everybody don't 981 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 2: get to see it, and then the mainstream media gets 982 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 2: to slant it. And unless there's somebody there that's independent 983 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 2: new media. We don't get to really hear, but we 984 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 2: really don't get to see. So I would love to 985 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 2: see one of these brought in like an Atlanta courtroom or. 986 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: A Florida corroom Florida. 987 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 2: Or Michigan courtroom. I want it somewhere where they got 988 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 2: a camera right right, okay, and so that we can 989 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 2: all see it, because most people are not going to 990 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 2: believe it unless they can see it on the television. 991 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 2: And even there's still gonna be something that they're gonna 992 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:14,800 Speaker 2: believe it in, so there is proof out there. When 993 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 2: is this going to end? Oh it ain't. We just 994 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 2: got started twenty twenty for y'all better bucket up, buttercut, 995 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 2: because this one's going to be a bumpy ride. 996 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you, what do you 997 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: see happening for the remainder of the year as it unfolds? 998 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Just literally just a kid, you not just just got started, 999 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 2: and you gotta remember this is also we're having an election. Yeah, 1000 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: So what I want people to watch out for is 1001 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 2: the distraction. Fact the truth is coming out, but you 1002 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 2: gotta watch for the distractions too. For instance, people were 1003 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 2: paying attention to Hunter Biden in his congressional hearing that 1004 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,959 Speaker 2: he stormed out of because he didn't want to answer 1005 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 2: somebody's question. I think you need to answer a couple 1006 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 2: questions anyway. But all the same, while while that was happening, 1007 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 2: the SEC got hacked, our sec our Security Exchange Commission 1008 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 2: computer system got hacked. While Hunter Biden is up there 1009 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 2: talking about his daddy, and you know they're trying to 1010 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 2: find out how his daddy enriched him. Now, so we 1011 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 2: got to watch out for the distraction. We have to 1012 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 2: be willing to look at things in a new way 1013 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 2: because the truth bombs are not going to stop. They're 1014 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 2: going to be coming in like rapid fire. Yeah, you're 1015 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,520 Speaker 2: not going to be able to catch your breath if 1016 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 2: you haven't already figured out how to be above everything 1017 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 2: that can be shaken will in this year. I guarantee 1018 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,480 Speaker 2: you that guaranteed. 1019 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Now, how do you feel about that as a woman 1020 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: of a faith, Like, like, how does that make you feel? 1021 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 2: Like? 1022 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Then, do you get nervous with all this? Like when 1023 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 1: we talk about like spirituality and things that's happening, Like. 1024 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't get nervous at all. I create my own world. 1025 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 2: Why would I be nervous, Right, I create my own world. 1026 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 2: Do I know that there's hyper inflation? Do I know 1027 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 2: that there's all these things out there? Yes? I do? 1028 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 2: Do I get mad every time I go to the store. Child. 1029 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 2: I bought a chuck a beef chuck roast to speak 1030 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 2: in to make for my daughter and her new friend. 1031 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 2: And it was five pound rows and that cost me 1032 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 2: over twenty seven dollars. Do you know how angry I was? No, 1033 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 2: it was thirty something dollars because it was seven dollars 1034 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 2: dollars for a five pounds, thirty five dollars because it 1035 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 2: was seven dollars a pounds. It was a five pound 1036 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 2: rows thirty five dollars. Now that ain't right, so does that? Yeah? 1037 01:04:53,440 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 2: That may be mad, But by the same token, I 1038 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 2: don't get nervous. I kind of just want to sit 1039 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 2: over here and get my popcorn because a lot of 1040 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,479 Speaker 2: this stuff I've been telling people for a long time, 1041 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 2: Like I told people years ago, twenty eighteen, I think 1042 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 2: I started saying it then. I said, we're going to 1043 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 2: come to a time where the only way you're going 1044 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 2: to know if something was created or a person that 1045 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 2: you're talking to is an actual person, And not AI 1046 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 2: generator is if you can discern if someone as a 1047 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 2: soul and here we are now, and I guarantee you 1048 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 2: unless you can look at these videos and discern right 1049 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 2: and even what you're listening to, even the faceless videos. 1050 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 2: I discerned very quickly when that it's an AI voice, 1051 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 2: even if it's a good AI fake, and then I 1052 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 2: click off of it. I don't want to hear that. 1053 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 2: I want to hear a human voice, right. So we 1054 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: are going to have to put our discerners on the 1055 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 2: problem is the discerners have been dampened by the people 1056 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 2: behind the durant pulpit and by us allowing them and 1057 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 2: giving them that power. So take your power back so 1058 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: that you can figure out what's really going on. That's 1059 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 2: all I'm trying to say. 1060 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 1: Okay, one more question is about you got my got 1061 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: my mind going. What are your thoughts about the aliens? 1062 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 2: They will They've been here, we just ain't been able 1063 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 2: to see them. See the veil is so thin. Yeah, 1064 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 2: you talk about a thin veil, that's the veil between dimensions. 1065 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 2: Those are still other dimensional beings. That's why when you 1066 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 2: see on some of the TikTok, like what was going 1067 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 2: on Miami. There were some of the there's some of 1068 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,439 Speaker 2: those videos I saw, and there was you could see 1069 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 2: the portal open. So the dimensions are shifting because the 1070 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 2: Earth is shifting to become a higher dimensional planet aka 1071 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,439 Speaker 2: at the end of Revelation, right, New hav a New Earth. 1072 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: But there's a time before then, this millennial time period. 1073 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 2: So there's a time period that there's that kind of 1074 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,919 Speaker 2: become kind of sort of New Earth, and then there's 1075 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 2: a time period after that there's a millennium, and then 1076 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 2: there's a So I've been seeing I've been seeing mermaids 1077 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 2: coming out of Now they're dark mermaids, they're not the 1078 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 2: good Area mermaids, but they've been coming up out of 1079 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 2: the ocean. Child. I've been seeing aliens all over and 1080 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 2: all the UFOs. When I was living in Wisconsin, I 1081 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 2: don't even think I've said this publicly before. Now, when 1082 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 2: I was living in Wisconsin, not this sum Nope, not 1083 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 2: this summer. Summer before this past Summer's twenty twenty two, 1084 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 2: my neighbor called me outside. It was in right about 1085 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 2: my birthday and there was a lot going on. There 1086 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 2: was just things trouble of Bruin and my neighbor called 1087 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,919 Speaker 2: me outside over my house. I saw a very bright, 1088 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 2: one bright light, and then there were twenty more lights 1089 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 2: in a straight row, I mean perfectly straight, hovering the 1090 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 2: point the apex was right by my house, and I looked. 1091 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 2: I was like, who he was like, I've never seen 1092 01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: a consolation like that. I said, you know, no, it's 1093 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 2: a relation. I said, then them there are UFOs, sir. 1094 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 2: And the minute I said they're UFOs, the first one left, 1095 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 2: and then each of them they hovered over my house 1096 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 2: for three nights straight. By the time that they were done, 1097 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 2: all the trouble that was brewing in my my sphere 1098 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 2: of influence, was gone. It was as if they were 1099 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 2: telling me, we're here, we're gonna cook you. Well, we're 1100 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 2: gonna take care of you. Them twenty same ships came 1101 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 2: over my house for three nights straight, same formation. Every 1102 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 2: time I would go outside, I would acknowledge them and 1103 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 2: then they'd leave. So yeah, I believe in them fully. 1104 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard this, but if you 1105 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,640 Speaker 2: take the latitude and longitude coordinates for Miami and you 1106 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,639 Speaker 2: flip them, you get Antarctica. So I think somebody puts 1107 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 2: you in the wrong numbers. 1108 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Oh man, we really are in the matrix. Man, well, 1109 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: since you are an ordained minister. Normally, when I have 1110 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: people of your caliber, I always ask to leave us 1111 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 1: with some a prayer or just a few cups, a 1112 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: few words, just to keep us, keep the ones, the 1113 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 1: collective and God's grace. 1114 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 3: So if you may please, Okay, I'm going to It's 1115 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 3: been a long time since I had known an official 1116 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 3: should bring up, So we're gonna. 1117 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to. I'll speak this blessing over everyone. So 1118 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 2: everyone that is under the sound of my voice, from 1119 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,520 Speaker 2: this day forward, for all eternity, may your whole household 1120 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 2: be mightily blessed. May every dream become reality, not in 1121 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 2: the distant future, but in the near future, not in five, six, seven, 1122 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 2: eight years from now. But I am feeling that so 1123 01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 2: many people need a right now. And so we are moving, 1124 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,720 Speaker 2: and we are speaking, and I am rearranging all of 1125 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 2: the atoms and the subatomic particles, and I'm rearranging and 1126 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 2: speaking into your energetic being right now and telling you 1127 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 2: and speaking life into you there is no more death, 1128 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 2: speaking life into your dreams, into your passions, speaking prosperity 1129 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 2: over your purpose, speaking clarity in your mind, your heart, 1130 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,720 Speaker 2: and your soul, removing every obstacle that has been in 1131 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 2: your way thus far, reprogram in your brain to believe 1132 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,040 Speaker 2: in you, to believe that you are a whole being, 1133 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 2: that you are beautifully and wonderfully created, that you live 1134 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 2: at peace, nothing missing, nothing broken, in total balance, and 1135 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,839 Speaker 2: that you are blessed to be a blessing. I speak 1136 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 2: calm and peace. Where there may be violence and fear, 1137 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 2: it is no more. You have the ability to either 1138 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,760 Speaker 2: walk away or that person will no longer harm you 1139 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 2: in any way, shape, form, or fashion. And I'm speaking 1140 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 2: peace over you, over your city, over your towns, over 1141 01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 2: your state, and over this country. That all those that 1142 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,960 Speaker 2: will hear, that have an ear, will indeed hear and 1143 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 2: raise up and take your power back. Take it back, 1144 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 2: don't give it away anymore, and you will be able 1145 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 2: to create and recreate and manifest the life that you 1146 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 2: wish that is of your highest good and for the 1147 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 2: good of the collective. Yes, thank you, Amen, Nache, and 1148 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 2: I mean. 1149 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Amen, Come on, no, doctor, that's how you do that? 1150 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 2: Come on now? 1151 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,679 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this has been one of my favorite, favorite, 1152 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 1: favorite favorite episodes. I know that we would stay connected. 1153 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 1: I think that you are a national treasure and I 1154 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: am just so thankful and honor No, I really do 1155 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: seriously like I love spirituality. I feel like a lot 1156 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 1: of people need to hear these messages because you never 1157 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,679 Speaker 1: know who this can help. And I'm just so thankful 1158 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 1: that you agree to be a part of my show. 1159 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 2: So thank you so much, thank you very much. I 1160 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 2: appreciate you so much. This has to be probably one 1161 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 2: of my favorite interviews like this was just amazing spending 1162 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 2: this time with you. 1163 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, And to the listeners, if you 1164 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 1: have any questions coming some concerns, please make sure to 1165 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: reach out to me at hello at the psgpodcast dot com. 1166 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:08,000 Speaker 1: And until next time, you stay blessed child. Later you 1167 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: ain't gonna say bye oh bye. Not the Sexy Voice. 1168 01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 1: The Professional Homegirl Podcast is a production of the Black 1169 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,720 Speaker 1: Effect podcast Network. 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