WEBVTT - Black Lives Matter 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.120 Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie, 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:09.840 my name is Caitlin, and Uh, it's been a fucking week. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.640 If you're listening to this the day and week it 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:18.200 comes out, you'll certainly know why. There has been massive 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:23.560 demonstrations for the Black Lives Matter movement in response to 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:28.200 the murder of George Floyd, of Brianna Taylor, of Ahmad 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.600 are Y, and and on and on in the past week, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.320 and there has been just truly a huge burst in 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:41.560 righteous anger in issues that have been, you know, brewing 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.279 in American history for as long as American history has 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.879 been happening. So if you're listening to this episode when 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.159 it comes out, you know that already, and if you're 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.479 listening to this episode in the future, you also know that. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.280 So we we were genuinely like, not sure she'll be 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:01.200 released an episode this week? Does it make sense for 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.200 us to do? But we decided that that we should. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.800 It's not obviously it's not going to be a normal episode. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.120 We're not gonna be talking about uh movie this week, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.679 but we will be talking because we want to respect 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.920 the fact that we have a platform and we have 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:21.520 listeners that we've found over the over the years. Are 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.560 are are I mean, our listeners are the best and 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.760 and we've learned so much from you. And it sounds like, 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.160 you know, that goes both ways, and we want to 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:35.039 continue to do that through everything and and so here 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.319 we are. Yeah, so more or less, we wanted to 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:45.680 take this opportunity to just provide information about resources, things 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.480 you can do to be a better ally, things you 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:55.880 can do to be actively anti racist, places you can 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:01.040 donate to, things like that. So we are are Jamie said, UM, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:08.600 we're using our platform to inform and educate and hopefully yeah, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.960 hopefully you'll you'll find So I know, there's so much 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:16.040 information going around already. I'm sure you already have heard 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.480 uh different things you can do. Um, but no harm 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:24.360 in spreading more information as long as that information is good. So, uh, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.480 that's what we're doing today. And we also want to 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:32.200 just I guess publicly express our our continued commitment to 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.680 doing better. And you know, I mean, I mean, from 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.040 the beginning of this show, I think that we have 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.880 both learned so much in so many areas of analysis, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.440 but especially with this show, I think that I've I've 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.919 personally learned a ton through our guests and through our 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:55.520 research and through our talks about the importance of intersectionalism, 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.480 where you know, we started this show with the idea 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.040 of we want to analyze movies from a feminist perspective. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:09.000 And feminism is wonderful and we are deeply committed to it, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:14.480 but it has deeply entrenched roots in erasing black women, 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:19.000 and erasing all non white women, and and only servicing 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.960 white women, and and so it's inexcusable. And I think 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:27.640 that it's so cooked into even the core of feminist 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:34.480 rhetoric races so much, and particularly black women and particularly 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.000 non white and queer women. I mean, we we are 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:43.560 committed to doing better. And to all of our listeners, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.600 we appreciate you being on the ride with us. And 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.240 I mean, I personally really love how great our listeners 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.440 have been over the years about just you know, checking 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.840 us when we funk up, and it genuinely helps, and 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.160 I think that I know that it will continue to help. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.720 So for sure, first we just want to express, particularly 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.200 to our black listeners, but to all of our listeners, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.520 a huge amount of love and just the open line 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.440 of communication. We're here, we're listening. We want to do better. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.160 For you and we want to do better by you, 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.680 and so we love you when we're here. Yes, indeed, 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:28.000 and thank you again for your patients with us as 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:32.160 we have grown and you know, just try to navigate 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.599 our jobs, you know. Um, it's been so helpful the 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.200 feedback that we've gotten over the years. Of course, we 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.159 do have blind spots that we've been working diligently to 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:50.000 make more and more narrow over the course of the show. Um, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:54.680 but any guidance is still helpful. Not that it's should be, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:05:00.520 you know, your responsibility or burden to like as oh no, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.039 we've ventured a dangerous on I mean there. It's never 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.920 been on our listeners to educate us. But when our 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.160 listeners have felt like, you know, hey, I'm going to 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.280 take this opportunity to say you're fucking wrong and here 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.120 is what you need to know, you know what, we 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.880 will never you know, come at our fan base being 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.760 like educated us we're idiots, but but we do appreciate 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.400 when you know, we it's it's the para social relationship 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.640 of a lifetime that we're on right now, and from 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.200 the bottom of our hearts, it does mean a lot 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.440 to us. When if we funk up and you know 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.080 you're able to check us and want to. It's really helpful. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.680 But but yeah, I think that what you just brought up, 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.320 Caitlin is a great point that even in the past 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:50.040 like week of you know, everything that's been going around 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:56.480 of there's definitely been, uh a mini pandemic of non 0:05:56.560 --> 0:06:00.760 black people asking black people to educate on what they 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.480 should have understood going into this situation, which if it's 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.000 something you're considering doing, do not do it. It is 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:14.160 you have access to all the same resources you have 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:19.719 Google dot com. And it is on us to educate 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:24.400 ourselves period. It is not someone else's job to tell 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.840 you what you're getting wrong. Um. Which is the first 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.120 resource that I would like to bring up, And also 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.720 we will be posting all of these resources to our 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.840 Twitter and our Instagram. UM. We already have stuff going, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.040 but we'll continue adding stuff. But the first resource that 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.279 I wanted to share are from two activists named Brianna 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.560 Wallace and Autumn Gupta, and it was shared by a 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:52.520 friend of the cast io at Debris. Who is I mean, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.400 if you've heard her episode, you're already in love with 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.120 her or you were in love with her because of 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.520 the millions of wonderful comedy things she's done, but she 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:04.120 shared this particular resource um from Brianna Wallace and Autumn Gupta. 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.960 Here's here's the statement that goes with the project. It says, Hello, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.040 our names are Brianna and Autumn and we're a dynamic 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.880 duo committed to the mission of spreading truth, love and awareness. 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.600 Spearheaded by Autumn. We've created this detailed resource that compiles 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.840 ways to learn inform an act to support those in 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.040 the black community. Check it out, share, we post, blow 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:28.080 it up. And what it is is truly wonderful. I 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.640 have already started doing it myself, but it is a 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.760 Google doc that we will link you to. It is 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.840 called Justice in June and it is a lesson plan 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.560 for non black people on how to become better allies. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.120 It is truly a gigantic act of service that this 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.240 has been made available for free. There's three lesson plans available. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.280 There's ten minutes a day, twenty five minutes a day, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.920 forty five minutes a day, depending on where your life 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.640 is at right now, how much time do you have 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:04.320 to do this? Brianna and Autumn have you covered so? 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:08.760 I highly highly highly recommend there's an inside of this 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.880 Google doc. In this lesson plan alone, there are hundreds 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:19.480 of pieces of media, of speeches, of literature, of of movies, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:24.840 of just truly the full spectrum of educational materials that 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.280 that they've made available. And literally all it takes is 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:33.120 to start the commitment of the month of June to 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.920 educate yourself and to better understand. So I would as 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.439 as someone currently three days deep into the program, it's 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.280 wonderful and and we will link that resource to you. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.120 I have already found it to be extremely helpful. Yeah, 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.160 I mean the work, the work is on us. I 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.360 can't wait to get started. So that's that's my first resource. Again, 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.240 if this is stuff you already know, feel free to 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.240 just you know, come back next week. But if this 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:09.400 is new information for you, please hang out. And uh, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.000 we would love to pass along the resources that we 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:16.080 have aggregated or already had. And when I pass it along, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.120 so the next thing that we want to direct you 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:25.160 to is mutual funds and bail funds. So hopefully, as 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.000 a listener, you you already understand that black Americans are 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:35.160 incarcerated at astronomically higher rates than truly anyone else they're 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:39.120 brutalized more, they're treated like. The way that these protests 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:43.280 have played out has been no exception. And so if 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:48.160 you are either at a protest and want to continue 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.720 to do more, or you are not able to be 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.760 at a protest, you're not near one, you're not whatever 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.120 it is, Donating to a bail fund is an incredibly 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.160 helpful way to cause an impact in an immediate sense. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:05.320 There are people that I'm sure you've you've seen this happening, 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:11.560 being arrested for literally nothing. It's been extremely humbling for 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:15.240 me because I've been you know, I just I've been 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.280 sheltered by my skin for my entire life, and in 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:23.359 the past week of being like seeing police brutality happened firsthand. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:28.760 I mean, if you've been extremely online during this time, 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.040 you understand that what happens at the protests and what 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.760 is reflected in the media is quite different, and that 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:40.520 there are thousands of people being arrested for no reason. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.920 A wonderful way you can help right away is to 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.120 donate to a mutual aid or bail fund. And we 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.000 have in our Twitter and in our Instagram a link 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.920 to a list of nationwide and some in Canada. As 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.280 well UH mutual aid and l funds where you can 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.600 give right now. We have already been doing so with 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.360 our Patreon money and our personal money. We will continue 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:11.120 to do so. But it is an incredible, incredible way 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.959 to cause an immediate impact, and I would extend that 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.920 to UH will link these as well, but keeping an 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.920 eye out for the families of those impacted, and we're 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.000 talking about Brianna Taylor, who there is still as of 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.280 this recording, been no arrests made in an association with 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.199 her murder by police, and this goes on and on. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.240 But but also we will also be uh reposting and 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.960 sharing the go fund mes and and the ways you 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.480 can support people who have been extremely impacted by the 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.360 past week through through bell fund, through go fund me, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:50.600 is through cash apps. UM. This also extends to and 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.679 we want to make sure that we're acknowledging the black 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:58.960 trans community who are again brutalize and mistreated by the 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:04.360 police and by our society at abnormally high rate. UH. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.400 In this past week alone, Ayanna Dior was beaten by 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.400 a mob in Minneapolis, and Tony McDade, a black trans man, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.640 was shot and killed by police just in the past week. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.680 There are also fundraising efforts going on for them, and 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.080 there's also fundraising efforts going on for the black trans 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.280 community at large that we will share with you. Yes, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:33.280 another thing that I would encourage people too. I think 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.160 that there's a lot of ways to be an activist 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:40.800 right now, and the immediate ways are donate and show 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.920 up at a protest if you're physically able to show 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.800 up at a protest. These are the most immediate ways 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:50.720 that you can make an impact. But another it's committing 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.000 yourself to a long game as well. Where to to 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.680 paraphrase our dear friend, friend of the cast, friend of 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.400 our life, Miles Gray, something that he expressed on the 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:06.800 dailies like Guist today was just the sentiment that this 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.960 is a long game and if you're committing yourself to 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.760 performing on social media for a week, that will show 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.480 and being an ally is a journey and it involves 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.160 fucking up. I think that that is something that people 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.800 are afraid to do a lot, especially on social media, 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.079 like no one wants to, you know, make a mistake, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.760 But we did it. We we posted a black square 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.720 before realizing wait, that's like counterproductive. That was not a 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.400 helpful thing for us to do you know, and that, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.400 and and so for for those of you that have 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.120 made those missteps and those mistakes, we have also made 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.760 those mistakes, and we won't back off from those mistakes. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.040 We will say that we were fucking wrong and it 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.280 was not helpful and it was not a productive use 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:03.400 of our platform. But mistakes are constantly made. The question 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.440 is are you willing to learn from them? Are you 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.040 willing to like put your ego aside and commit to 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.719 accountable Yeah, in in the long game, right, I think 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.319 a lot of people are are hesitant to speak up 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.640 or to engage in anything of what's going on for 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:27.600 fear of making missteps and and and I think there's 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.560 a hesitancy to engage with a lot of people who 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.600 just need to understand that. Yeah, Like what you're saying, 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:41.720 Jamie is nobody is perfect. Mistakes will be made, but 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:46.280 you can't let that stop you from trying because putting 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.480 in the work, putting in the effort is vital. You 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.840 don't want to take the um I thought immediately of 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:57.680 Sofia Coppola directing the Big Guild, like you don't want 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.000 to take that approach of like, well, I don't under 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.520 stay I'm not a black person, so I can't I'm 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.760 going to erase black people because I might misrepresent them, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.680 and that's that is absolutely the wrong approach. Yeah, the 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:16.040 answer is always to just educate yourself. It's not easy, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.120 like and and sometimes it's like it is like a 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:25.120 humbling experience, like you're gonna fuck up. I over the 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:30.960 years have funked up. We all have, of course, but 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:35.240 but I think it is truly committing to the journey 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:40.920 and committing to like taking ship. If you funk up, like, yeah, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.920 I think that that's all. That's all I really have 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.680 to say that. It is like you're gonna sunk up. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.120 And if you funk up, continue to educate yourself. I 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.720 think that, like the most one of the most common 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.760 mistakes is to just double down on being like I 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.840 couldn't have been wrong, I'm woke, I'm great. It's like, no, 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:06.000 if you're like a white lady, you're gonna funk up. Like, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.000 if you're trying to speak two issues that you don't 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.240 have personal experience with, you need to listen and you 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.800 need to go in with the expectation that you don't 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.920 have the perspective you're not going to get it right 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.880 and that you know, just accept it going in, leave 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.720 your ego at the door, and educate yourself. Yes, that's 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:29.080 just it is listening. It's listening. It's being receptive to 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.440 constructive feedback. It is talking with your families. It's talking 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:43.400 to your fucking families. It's it's just getting started. You 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.560 can think you have a woke family, and then you 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.880 ask the one follow up question and you're like, you 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.560 give how much of a ship about a billionaire's property? 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.720 And it goes on, like, commit to having the hard discussion. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.320 Be in it for the long game. It's not one conversation. 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.720 It's never going to be one conversation. It's not going 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.520 to be one hang up. It's not going to be 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.000 one family gathering when and if we're ever allowed to 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:15.119 gather again. It's it is a lot of conversations. It 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.640 is a long term commitment, indeed, but it's important. It's 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.840 you gotta fucking do it. I mean, it's it's being 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:27.160 willing to be uncomfortable, to be personally uncomfortable to get 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:32.080 something larger accomplished another place. If you're looking for other 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.600 places to donate, um, there are a number of wonderful 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.359 black mental health organizations that have been fundraising UM in 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.160 the past. There's several threats. I've found IOH has another 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.560 wonderful one, but one that I have known about previously, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.720 and and set up a recurring donation. That's another thing. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.560 If you want to keep your little ass accountable, make 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.880 it a recurring donation. Okay, to commit like we were 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:04.720 talking about called commitments, sweetie. But the boris Lawrence Henson 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:09.320 Foundation that is set up by Taragi p Henson UM 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.280 in memory of I believe her brother UH is a 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.920 an organization completely committed to advancing UM black mental health 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.560 in on a person to person sense in a larger 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.320 sense of educating and is wonderful. If there's what we 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:30.119 will also link to a number of these threads. Um BEAM, 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.680 the Black Emotional and Mental Health Collective is another nonprofit 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.040 that is wonderful to give to, and so we will 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.320 shore we will share all the resources that we have 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:45.720 on on that topic as well. Yes, indeed, since we 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:51.400 are a movie podcast, don't know if you've heard listeners UM, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:55.439 I wanted to speak a little bit to some movies 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.560 and other types of media you can consume to help 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:05.200 with your ongoing education. So this is a graphic that's 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.119 been shared a lot, but in case you haven't seen it, 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.720 it comes from we got it from we well we 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.800 we originally found it from Addie wi Ridge uh future 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:21.359 guest of um. But yes, it was aggregated by Sarah, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.679 Sophie Flicker and Melissa Klein. This is a list of 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:29.320 films to consume. These are ones on netflicks do with films. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.399 These are ones that are available at the time of 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:39.639 this recording streaming on Netflix by Ava Duvernet Um which 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.240 not to brag or anything, but I just rewatched last 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.920 night And a side note, I went on a little 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.880 bit of a Twitter rant last night speaking to how 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:55.000 influential media is. Right of you to go on Twitter 0:19:55.160 --> 0:20:00.359 at this trying time Citland, congratulations, UM, thank you very much. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:06.040 But because sometimes I question the career I've made for myself. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.040 I'm like, movies, movies aren't important. Why do I like 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:13.080 movies so much? But then I remember, Yeah, there's a 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.199 larger discussion for us to be had, um in the 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.440 future about how truely I mean, we've we've alluded to it. 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.280 I don't think we've ever had like a really, really, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.280 really in depth discussion about it, but how you know, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:28.560 the propaganda around cops and the good cop and the 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:33.359 bad apple mentality. Um starts with the media we consume 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:37.119 as children, along with other things. But it is a 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:41.320 large contributing factor that will continue to discuss on the 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:47.600 show for sure, which it goes to show how influential media, 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.640 including film is. A lot of people will make the argument, oh, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.159 it's just a movie, you can't take it seriously. Movies. 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.600 You know, people aren't affected by what they see in 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:58.919 the movies or what they see on TV or you know, 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.359 the video games and stuff like that. And of course 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.160 we've you know, demonstrated over the course of the years 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:11.280 of doing the podcast that it is not. Yes. Um So, 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:17.320 in watching last night, I was reminded of a very 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:23.520 horrifying bit of information, which was that after the simply 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.920 awful racist abomination of a movie, Birth of a Nation 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.080 came out and I believe it was nine, there was 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:35.919 an enormous resurgence of clan activity because of that movie. 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:40.359 Because that movie paints the KKK as heroes and it 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:44.159 portrays black men, which are for the most part in 0:21:44.200 --> 0:21:47.280 that movie white men in black face, but it paints 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:51.760 those characters as violent criminals and it had such a 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.000 major impact on the nation that it affected history, and 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.800 that is the power that movies potentially have. So UM 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:05.119 just it is helpful for me to be reminded of that. UM. 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.560 In any case, back to this list by Ava Duvernet, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.800 American Son that we have the whole list on our Instagram. 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.480 Dear White people, the movie and the series in the 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.800 series wonderful See You Yesterday when they See Us another 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.040 Ava Duvernet film. UM. These are on Hulu, If Bill 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:28.280 Street Could Talk and The Hate You Give UM. Ones 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:33.680 that are available to rent include Black Power Mix Tape, Clemency, 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.840 Fruit Filed Station, one of my favorite there, I Am 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:41.480 Not your Negro, just Mercy Selma, The Black Panthers, Vanguard 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.240 of the Revolution. UM. And then I would also just 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:49.080 recommend these are more sort of educational UM and or 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.639 movies that I see. I mean, I think that in 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.920 general we we recommend these movies from the specific graphic, 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.840 but we also just recommend consuming black are like it 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.520 is no, I mean, it's it is not just a 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:08.600 critical thing to do to have a like a good palette, 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.159 uh for your media diet, but it's also just like 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:16.639 your life is bettered by seeing black art. And I 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.800 guess if we're being biased American black art, it just 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.720 it's good ship. And and you know, black artists we 0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:28.360 know we talk about are not given the opportunity at 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.919 the same rate as as mediocre, random white people to 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.879 make movies. And it's just you know, if you are 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.600 looking at your media diet and realize that there is 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:43.160 not really any diversity and it here's your fucking chance 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.280 to research, to educate yourself and to just seek out 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:51.119 resources and and you will be better for it. You 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.879 will be happier for it. It is work that doesn't 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:58.640 feel like work because it's just like good movies, it's 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.520 just a good move us and good comedy and good 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.320 books and on and on and on um. We have 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:08.800 many recommendations that we will also link you too, and 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:14.520 so honestly, uh, you know. To conclude, we here at 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.000 the Battle Cast would like to say we think the 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:21.920 police should be abolished. Fuck the police. There has not 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:26.359 necessarily been a time on our program or a time 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.680 where we have been I mean truly like i I've 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:34.320 been in the past week alone, be been educated on 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:38.359 a wild line. The line is basically, you know, a 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.119 very upward line on on how to articulate these issues. 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.640 I am definitely not there. I'm not going to attempt 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:48.800 to be there right now. The American policing system has 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.679 been It's not that it's broken, it's that it was 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:56.560 built this one, UM. It was built to exclude, it 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.840 was built to oppress, it was built to serve the 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.080 white and the wealthy. You know, we've known this for 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:07.320 a long time. But this is the moment where if 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:11.639 you are not educated on this topic, get educated on 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:15.160 this topic. We are also trying to be more educated 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.480 on this topic. Two resources that we have already posted 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.679 but I will direct you to right now on the 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:28.639 topic are two studies UM. One is a book that 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:34.640 is currently for free what uh from Verso Books. I'm 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.879 halfway through it. It is intense and it is important. 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:43.320 It's called The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.439 Vitale and it and it is truly just walking you 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:53.439 through why the American policing system is not serving the 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:57.680 people that it says it's serving. It is a system 0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:02.720 that is not serving our country period. So that is 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:07.160 a great resource. Another study that has been really enlightening 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:11.880 for me, UM coming from mp D one fifty, which 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:16.400 is a study based in Minnesota that was released last year, 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.600 but it's a one year performance review of the Minneapolis 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:24.840 Police Department. Um that, wouldn't you know, it essentially reaches 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:29.120 the same conclusion the police. It's not that they're just ineffective, 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.040 it's not that they're just racist. Is that that that 0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:36.080 is the point and that is built into the d 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.879 n A of what the American police forces. And I 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.280 know that. I mean, I think that for a lot 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:47.160