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Speaker 2: This is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to an

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Speaker 2: all new Eyes up Here, exclusively on the iHeart Radio network.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't know by now, my name is Dad,

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Speaker 2: and every single week I'm.

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Speaker 1: Here, but the host it's not this week. We all

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Speaker 1: know where she is.

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Speaker 2: She's on her magical vacation to a place that she.

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Speaker 1: Talks about all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have to spell it out for you,

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Speaker 2: you know, but I have outs and found somebody to

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Speaker 2: take her place this week, but did not have to

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Speaker 2: go very far.

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Speaker 1: All I had to do was look across the room.

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Speaker 3: And found a suitable replacement the quintessential stun Muppon himself,

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Speaker 3: mister Joel Gertner joining me today, Joel, welcome back to

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Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. For those who don't know.

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Speaker 5: Although since all of these people are fans of the

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Speaker 5: original ECW, I would imagine or have caught up with

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Speaker 5: it by now. If they know Francine, then I'd like

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Speaker 5: to think hopefully they're familiar with my work and they

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Speaker 5: know that I am the lyrical miracle, the sexual into lectual,

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Speaker 5: the cunning linguist. I'll keep stuff like that to a

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Speaker 5: dull war here on iHeart Radio. I know it's not

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Speaker 5: I bleep Radio and the quintessential stun myuffin. Joel, I'm

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Speaker 5: your favorite ECW personality, just like the queen of Extreme

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Speaker 5: Friends scene, but unlike her, your older sister and your

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Speaker 5: mother underage fifty five love me the most. And this

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Speaker 5: week on this episode, I am your substitute host Girdener.

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Speaker 5: Keep listening, it still applies. Eyes up here and have

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Speaker 5: yourself and ear gazzle.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. What a way to start, Joel. I couldn't be

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Speaker 1: happier to have you back.

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Speaker 5: Thank you well.

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Speaker 2: Joel and I were together yesterday as we're recording this

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Speaker 2: in real time. We were in beautiful Jappa, Marilyn outside

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Speaker 2: of Baltimore, but I think they do count it as

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Speaker 2: Baltimore if you're going to use a city for the

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Speaker 2: MCW fan jam And as I was walking around the

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Speaker 2: room and exchanging pleasantries with a few folks in the

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Speaker 2: near vicinity, we locked eyes.

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Speaker 1: You didn't know who I was.

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Speaker 2: I went over and introduced myself again since we had

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Speaker 2: you on the show a couple of years ago. You

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Speaker 2: said the wrong thing and I locked you in for

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Speaker 2: eyes up here. It was if you ever.

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Speaker 1: Need me, I'm right there, and I grabbed you within

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Speaker 1: two seconds.

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Speaker 5: And there's no substitute for a substitute. I'm run down,

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit sick as a dog, I'm a

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Speaker 5: little bit beat up. But nonetheless, when I heard it

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Speaker 5: was for Franny, and when I heard it was for

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Speaker 5: this show, of course, out of the kindness of my heart,

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Speaker 5: I am here.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome too.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, and before we get into the

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Speaker 2: really bad stuff we're going to talk about today that

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Speaker 2: has to do with the World Wrestling, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the really good stuff that's step bond that

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Speaker 2: you guys have, that ECW bond, and you don't see

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Speaker 2: have that deep bond. It's that ECW crew that has

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Speaker 2: Really blood feuds that we know of that are really

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Speaker 2: You guys have a real tight group and you're always

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Speaker 1: What is it about you guys.

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Speaker 2: That you still like, really have a good friendship and

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Speaker 5: For most of us, ECW was our break. It was

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Speaker 5: our career. We weren't plucked from you know, WWFWCW. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think helps. You know, you call it a bond.

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Speaker 5: I if you're going to talk about blood feud, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Again there's always the cool interactions between the ECW guys.

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Speaker 2: And again that's not to despair the other promotions or

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Speaker 2: It's just it's there's something different there, and it's it's magical,

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Speaker 2: we also saw there was a lot of great people

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Speaker 2: autographs and pictures. But I did see the Steiner brothers

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Speaker 2: I mean, they they still look great, you know. I

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Speaker 2: saw Lex Luger. Conventions are always very cool, but there's

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Speaker 2: throw this term around very loosely, Joel, but perhaps biggest

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Speaker 2: news story of all time as it relates to wrestling still,

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Speaker 2: I guess breaking as you go every day, every single day,

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Speaker 1: And it's becoming like the Kennedy assassination.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's almost like, where were you when you found

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Speaker 2: to see that Vince McMahon, the guy we've heard so

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Speaker 2: many crazy things about over the years, had this finally

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Speaker 5: I'd heard some rumblings. I'd heard some kind of inside

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Speaker 5: Nothing shocks me. You know, on the other end of

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Speaker 5: and I've been reading the sheets since eighty nine. Even

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Speaker 5: I think this where like maybe you're hearing the FEDS

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Speaker 5: And but you know, again, you see different. You know,

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Speaker 5: You know, there's that, but like so some of it

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Speaker 5: But regardless, like the kind of again, there's been, there's been,

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Speaker 5: I have no idea where I was when I actually

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Speaker 1: It I we gotta, we gotta go through a couple

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Speaker 2: One that Kevin dun Thing for sure was to me

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Speaker 2: the first thing I thought of, because when I'd read

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Speaker 1: I did read the whole sixty.

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Speaker 2: Seven page filing, and when it was naming like unnamed executive,

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Speaker 2: I'm not despair. I'm not trying to throw anybody's name.

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Speaker 2: It's explicitly under the bus. But he was the first name,

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Speaker 2: to Vince over the years that it's just fishy, as

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Speaker 2: we would say, you know, it's just suspicious.

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Speaker 1: But again, I could be one hundred dead wrong. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. I'm not saying that. I'm saying it.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to cover my so of course, and maybe

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Speaker 5: he was ready to retire, like I said, he's in

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Speaker 5: a certain age whatever maybe he was, and he's got

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Speaker 5: you know whatever, he's got eight figures worth. It was weird.

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Speaker 1: It was very weird.

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Speaker 5: like that company is his life. Yes, he's one of

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Speaker 5: the top people there. Good things are happening right the

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Speaker 5: company on various levels, Creative Financial is doing well. Is

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Speaker 5: there's interest, it's still popular, it's still mainstream. Here comes Netflix.

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Speaker 6: So you know, it was you know, so before WrestleMania,

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Speaker 6: you know, you don't yeah, you don't want a big

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Speaker 6: send off WrestleMania that closed out your career, right right.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Ye So.

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Speaker 5: You know, like I say, I mean, I wasn't surprised,

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Speaker 5: It was kind of it kind of you know, I've

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Speaker 2: That is not to say that what's going on with

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Speaker 2: I mean they they've hit a lot of like the

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00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: you know, hey, these are the classic wrestling stories.

432
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, hey, we pulled them out.

433
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: I have to say, in ratings wise, some of the

434
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: more interesting ones that the longtime wrestling fan wants to

435
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: hear about were like their lowest rated ones, like Adrian Adonis.

436
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: What longtime wrestling fan knows his backstory?

437
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: None.

438
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 5: I was amped up to see what they were gonna

439
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 5: do with the done Have they done a Vince McMahon one.

440
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: Yet I don't think they've gone all in on his back.

441
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 5: Right, That's what I'm That's what I'm yeah, because that's

442
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: what I'm wondering too. And like, now, if you give

443
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: it a beat and you wait, I don't know how

444
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 5: many more seasons they're gonna do. But if if you

445
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 5: let this story develop, and you even were to give

446
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: it a year or two years, you could do a

447
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 5: Vince episode. But how are you going to get it

448
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 5: all in in one hour? When Vince goes back to

449
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: the seventies, you know.

450
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not an episode, that's the season itself. But

451
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: then the Piggy's back piggyb excuse me. Off of what

452
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: Francine and I covered a few weeks ago, I was

453
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: appear we talked about there was a Netflix documentary that

454
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: was being discussed or filmed. Apparently Dave Meltzer had reported

455
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: about that. He was even interviewed for it. A Vince

456
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: project at Netflix. That makes a lot of sense now

457
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: that they signed with Netflix to bring raw there and

458
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: a lot of classic content.

459
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Where does that go?

460
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: So that was supposed to be chronicling everything that was

461
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: supposed to hit the good stuff the bad stuff and

462
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: the new stuff, right, well, does that include this? Does

463
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: that include the last two weeks? So that's that is

464
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: a excellent choice. But Netflix might have the rights already.

465
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: We'll move forward a little bit and speaking of a

466
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Vince Creation WrestleMania season, we're in the middle of it,

467
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: hitting a town you know very well, Philadelphia. Will you

468
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: be in telling miss WrestleMania in a kenna?

469
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 5: I will, I will, I will. I'm gonna be at

470
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: the ECW Arena as a matter of fact, and there's

471
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 5: no place in a way that I'd rather be. But

472
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to be there for Battleground Championship Wrestling. They've

473
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 5: got two shows on the Friday. I'm gonna be at both,

474
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna be at the Meet Forreat in between. Again,

475
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 5: I don't want to talk too much about Battleground because

476
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 5: I feel like there's a certain kind of lack of

477
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 5: respect and kind of you know, I feel me and

478
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 5: Tim Embler are oil and water, and I mean he

479
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 5: had me arrested at the last show. So you know,

480
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: I'll be with my boys, my faction, the Sex with

481
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 5: your Next ex Express and and I will be I'll

482
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 5: be on the ECW themed show, of course, because it's

483
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: a battle to see who the greatest male manager. And

484
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 5: I had fran Seen and one or two other people

485
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 5: in mind when I made sure to say the greatest

486
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 5: male manager. We're going to see who the greatest male

487
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: manager aw happened to be when I take on the

488
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 5: man who calls it right down the middle, allegedly in

489
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: his own way for himself, Bill Alfonso Phonsie himself with

490
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 5: that annoying, grading, brain piercing whistle of his, which is,

491
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 5: you know, God bless them. You know it'll be happening

492
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 5: when I take on Phonsie at the ECW arena and

493
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 5: prove that I'm the greatest ECW mail manager of all time.

494
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 5: It's there's a certain level of irony because in the

495
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 5: state of Pennsylvania, their lottery system, the Pennsylvania State Lottery,

496
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 5: the proceeds benefit senior elder Pennsylvanians. So it's outlandish to

497
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 5: think that in that same state, in Philadelphia in April,

498
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: that they are going to encourage a allow me to

499
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: perform elder abuse on Bill Alfonso. But but that's gonna be

500
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: what happens.

501
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, as you would say, well, well, well that is

502
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: quite the That is quite the statement. April fifth, Battleground

503
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: Championship Wrestling Friday, April fifth, going down at the ECW

504
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Arena down there.

505
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 5: I'm going up, I'm going over, of course, I'm going

506
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 5: straight to the top, of course. And I'm going because

507
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm the best male manager. I'm the epitome and he's average,

508
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 5: So like right down the middle, you know what I mean,

509
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 5: like kind of.

510
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, I can't imagine any other way.

511
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Uh, that weekend is a getting a lot of traction

512
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: as we speak.

513
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of rumblings. There's a lot of people

514
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: who are pissed off. There's a lot of people.

515
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: Blowing up timeline, tweeting, calling, writing letters if they still

516
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: do that to WWE offices. Have you followed the rock

517
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Cody Roman just madness that's gone on last week.

518
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: I don't think, I mean, I'm on social media. I

519
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 5: don't think you can get away from it from it. Yeah,

520
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: it's like it's the ultimate spoiler almost because like it's,

521
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 5: you know, even if you don't want to know any

522
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 5: more about it, good luck, you know. And and there's

523
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: levels to that stuff too, man and layers, and it's

524
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 5: really kind of intricate man. I mean, as of yesterday,

525
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 5: you've got what kind of just random WWE wrestlers and

526
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: personalities tweeting or you know x hashtag we want Cody right.

527
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's very strange Logan Paul uh sorry.

528
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Rick Ochet was another one of them.

529
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: And you know whether or not that's driven by somebody

530
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: on the inside or not still making a statement.

531
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just surprised by it. You know, it's

532
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: it's the Rock. It's not like it's some just random guy.

533
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 5: It's the Rock.

534
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: And the thing I don't get was they were in

535
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: somewhere in Alabama. You could have fooled me that the

536
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: people didn't like it.

537
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: The place, the roof blew off of it. How did

538
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: nobody like that?

539
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 5: And now they want the call we need Cody, we

540
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: need Code.

541
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: That's blasphemy.

542
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: They wanted the Rock last week. Hey, listen, it's great

543
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 5: when everybody's over, you know, when Cody's over and the

544
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 5: Rock is over and everybody loves to hate Roman reigns,

545
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: and when you've got all these personalities and it's a

546
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: dog pile, it's a fight to see where it's almost

547
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: like you've got too many top guys it's a good

548
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: problem to have, and the Rock's a movie star, So

549
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: why not have this play out like a movie. Why

550
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 5: not have this play out like a soap opera. Why

551
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: not have a play within a play. Why not have

552
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 5: there be creative in the real world. Why not have

553
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: it be a work shoot. Why not work the boys

554
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: a little bit? Why not get the boys in on

555
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: it a little bit? And you know, Ricochet tweets hashtag

556
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: we want Cody. Of course that's gonna get It's gonna

557
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 5: garner interest in Ricochet. It's gonna garner interest in Cody.

558
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: It's gonna garner interest in the Rock, WWE in WrestleMania.

559
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: It's gonna you know, who knows. You know, I think,

560
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 5: you know, if creative can. It's also, you know, I

561
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: think the people who are saying that all of these

562
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: machinations that are in the works now that we're talking

563
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: about with Cody, the Rock and the wrestlers tweeting and stuff,

564
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: a lot of it is meant to take eyes off

565
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 5: of take focus away from the real life whatever. Real

566
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: in wrestling, you never know what real life whatever, but

567
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: the real life in the sense of the real woes

568
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: the Vince Janelle grant stuff. So you know, who knows?

569
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 5: Who knows? If Ricochet is told to tweet that, who knows?

570
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 5: If five or ten a short list, a random sampling

571
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 5: of the boys, get an email or get a DM

572
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 5: and it says, feel free to tweet hashtag we want

573
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: Cody if you think it fits your brand. And some

574
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 5: do and some don't. You don't know what, you don't know, right,

575
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: We only know what we see. We see Logan Paul

576
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 5: tweet it, We see Ricochet. We don't know if that's

577
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: up to them. We don't know if somebody asked them.

578
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 5: We don't know if somebody told them, suggested, And again

579
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: we don't know. Are they two of two? Are they

580
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 5: two of ten? We don't know what we don't know,

581
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 5: and that and wrestling has always been that way, you

582
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: know again from I can tell you from being in

583
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 5: the e CW locker room. The w c W guys

584
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 5: can tell you because they were getting worked all the time.

585
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 5: They were, they were, they were you know, they were

586
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: they were working the boys. The boys had no idea,

587
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, what was going on. There were work shoots

588
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: going on where some people didn't even you know, know

589
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 5: that that what was going on was a work or

590
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 5: a shoot or they were just in a complete like

591
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 5: land of confusion, you know, and and it be that

592
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 5: way sometimes and that's how wrestling is.

593
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: So look like you said, people are talking, So I

594
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: guess that's the good thing. There's interest like there wouldn't

595
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: have been anyway. It's WrestleMania season.

596
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give you this final thing before we

597
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: start to wrap it up. I'm gonna give you the

598
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: booker hat.

599
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: Right.

600
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let Joel Gertner become the head booker of

601
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: WWE Creative.

602
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 5: Here. You're the first one.

603
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Tim Hey listen, hey, you when you work with the Chad,

604
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: so you go straight to the top. I'm just gonna

605
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: tell you that one time, Joel.

606
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: That's for me to you. What are you doing with

607
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: these three? You got two nights of WrestleMania. What are

608
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: you doing with them?

609
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: Who are the three?

610
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: Cody Rock, Cody Rock and Roman? What are you doing?

611
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: You got a belt? You got Cody Rock and Roman

612
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: and two Knights of Manium.

613
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: What do you right?

614
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 5: But there are two nights, right, so you've got three

615
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 5: of them. But then you've also got to figure out

616
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 5: you've got seth rollins You've got Kevin Owens, You've got

617
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: Logan Paul, You've got CM punk. Is he hurt? How hurt?

618
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 5: Is he? Is he going to be back in time?

619
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 5: So that's six, maybe seven guys that we reeled off.

620
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 5: Every time you reel off seven guys, that means there's

621
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 5: one or two you didn't think of. Now we're talking

622
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: about like eight guys. Like I said, I had great

623
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 5: problem to have to have on Saturday night, four guys?

624
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 5: What do you do with them? Sunday night? Four guys?

625
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 5: What do you do with them? You change? You got

626
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 5: a special start time now of six thirty. If the

627
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: show goes until eleven thirty or midnight, that means you've

628
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 5: got two shows that are over five hours long each.

629
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 5: I don't it's February fifth, right, Yeah, we've got two months.

630
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Just about yep, April sixth is the night one.

631
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'm not putting the heat on you,

632
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: but I need an answer before we let you go,

633
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: because you ain't, as far as I know, you ain't

634
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 2: guest hosting again.

635
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: So I need an answer.

636
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 5: I think there are Any answer is going to be

637
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 5: Any answer is going to be ill informed. Any answer

638
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: is gonna be completely fantastical or hypothetical, because again, we

639
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: don't know what we don't know. We don't know how

640
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 5: many matches are hardwired, set in stone that they already

641
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: know today are going to be on these shows, and

642
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 5: we don't know how many are gonna get plugged in

643
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: the next one, two, three weeks. We don't know the

644
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 5: medical the real medical situation with CMPUNK. We don't know, dude.

645
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: It was in eighty seven. You talked about eighty seven before.

646
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Speaker 5: In eighty seven, it was different. Even when they were

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Speaker 5: up to WrestleMania three and not just the first one,

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Speaker 5: they were still booking wrestling. There was no road to WrestleMania.

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Speaker 5: There was no WrestleMania season. They would start stuff at

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Speaker 5: Rumble well in eighty seven, not in when Rumble started, yeah,

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Speaker 5: but in eighty seven around that time, late December early January,

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Speaker 5: with a season with three months with thirteen weeks of TV,

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Speaker 5: they would over those thirteen weeks, let you know what

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Speaker 5: the thirteen matches, eleven matches, whatever it is at WrestleMania.

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Speaker 5: They would let you know what those were. So it

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Speaker 5: was easier. They would start booking it three months out.

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Speaker 5: Now we're two months out and it's like it's too soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy.

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Speaker 5: There are so many moving pieces and there's so much

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Speaker 5: know what the right thing to do is. It's like

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Speaker 5: they still need to wait another week or two, see

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Speaker 5: where things go, keep their finger on the pulse of

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Speaker 5: them short term, medium term, long term. So what do

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Speaker 5: you do? I mean, you could flip it back around.

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Speaker 5: You could have the Rock give his stamp of approval,

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Speaker 5: that he's the head of the table, and he'll finish

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Speaker 5: that story in due time in Saudi Arabia, in Australia,

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Speaker 5: in wherever they go at another major show. He could

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Speaker 5: give Cody his blessing and they could make it by

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Speaker 5: popular demand, Cody Rhodes versus you know. So they could

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Speaker 5: do that. They could do anything. The options are limitless.

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Speaker 5: I honestly think that what they're thinking is that they're

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Speaker 5: to book it out. But because I think that that's

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Speaker 1: I'll book it for you.

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Speaker 2: Rock Roman, Cody, I think we're gonna have to just

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Speaker 2: excuse me, relegate him to the opening match somewhere. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: we don't have anything for him.

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Speaker 1: Udre to Giant Battle Royal.

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Speaker 5: Maybe could you imagine he though that that would generate

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Speaker 5: the scheme. Every little kid would be dressed up like

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Speaker 5: Cody Rhodes with a painted on neck tattoo. Everybody would

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Speaker 5: be singing the music. Could you imagine seventy eight thousand

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Speaker 5: people singing that song turned up on eleven? I mean,

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Speaker 5: if they if they went that route and had him

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Speaker 5: once again, pretty much start from the bottom up. You know.

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Speaker 5: I love flipping wrestling on its ear. I love when

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Speaker 5: I book wrestling. When I had my company MXW, anything

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Speaker 5: as possible, experimental, avant garde, do stuff because it's never

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Speaker 5: been done before. In that vein, you could do what

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Speaker 5: you just suggested. But man, with that light a fire.

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Speaker 1: It's Philly, anything's possible.

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Speaker 5: They might like it, you know, they might. You know, somehow,

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Speaker 5: Philly used to be a heel town. There you go,

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Speaker 5: not anymore not but if you take liberties with Cody,

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Speaker 5: and if you relegate him, and if you downngrade and

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Speaker 2: Well, as we will find out. And we're about two

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Speaker 2: months away from actually when.

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Speaker 1: This episode's released, we will be two months away. So

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Speaker 1: there you go.

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Speaker 2: It'll be perfectly timed for your WrestleMania season kickoff when

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Speaker 2: you listen to this, so well we will. We'll start

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Speaker 2: to wrap this up here, Joel, I can't thank you

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Speaker 2: in by the Queen of Extreme.

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Speaker 5: And I love sports. So now that you know, competition

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Speaker 5: and just the kind of I love playing armchair booker

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Speaker 5: and I love kind of and I'm very mathematical. So

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Speaker 5: between the investing and math and numbers, and between the

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Speaker 5: sports and the what could happen, what should happen, what

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Speaker 5: might happen, I just try to integrate it all. And

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Speaker 5: got to be honest with you, man, being a good

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Speaker 5: sports better and improving at it has made me a

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Speaker 5: better trader, and then being a better trader makes you

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Speaker 5: a better sports investor sports better And it's been a

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Speaker 5: good couple of months. And so that's just one of

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Speaker 5: the things. You know, that's My Twitter's heavy with that.

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Speaker 5: My Instagram. If you love food, TikTok too. If you

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Speaker 5: love food, TikTok's got some crazy memes. We do a

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Speaker 5: lot of food stuff. We do Duke the Dumpster Drosi

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Speaker 5: challenges me to eat two bacon eators and I do

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Speaker 5: it quicker than he does. We have a lot of

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Speaker 5: fun on social media, so find me quintessential stud Muffin

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Speaker 5: pretty much everywhere but on X Stud Muffin says, that's

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Speaker 5: awesome and pro wrestling tease. If you want a if

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Speaker 5: you want a shirt, you know that Daniel Bryan Not

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Speaker 5: I didn't rip them off, right, but you know those

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Speaker 5: yes yes Yes shirts, the mare ones yes, white writing

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Speaker 5: right and Daniel Bryan on the back. So I've got

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Speaker 5: a shirt that just so happens to look eerily similar

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Speaker 5: to that. It may have been inspired by it. I

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Speaker 5: call it quintessential app Dude, you're fast, You're quick on

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Speaker 5: the trigger. I just I want you people to know

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Speaker 5: he's not doing this in post like these elements. He's

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Speaker 5: not talking to me at seven thirty pm, and then

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Speaker 5: at nine o'clock when we're offline, he's like, all right,

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Speaker 5: he talked about that. Let me find the element. He's

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Speaker 5: actually doing it in real, live time which is super

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Speaker 5: duper impressive. But yeah, those are the shirts that are

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Speaker 5: available right now. Well well well, which that's quintessential stud

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Speaker 5: muffin on the back. And if you're a Steelers fan,

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Speaker 5: or even if you're not, if you're a football fan,

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Speaker 5: or even if you're not, if you're a fan of mine,

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Speaker 5: or even if you're not, buy a shirt.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's a hell of an endorsement for a shirt,

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Speaker 1: even if you're.

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Speaker 2: Not, even if you don't wear shirts, even if you

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Speaker 2: don't wear shirts, yeah, you're shirtless, buy the shirt.

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Speaker 1: You need a shirt?

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Speaker 5: Soeah, And after you've bought one for you, for either

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Speaker 5: no reason or all reasons, by two for other people.

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Speaker 5: Because it's better to give and receive and it's better

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Speaker 5: to give than to take and whatnot. So you know,

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Speaker 5: one shirt's never enough.

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Speaker 1: Especially when they have those sales. It's even better when

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Speaker 1: they're you get them. You probably could get to for one,

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Speaker 1: So all right, have a.

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Speaker 5: Sale, get both sh I I agree with you, Chad.

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Speaker 5: Next time there's a seasonal sale, whether it's Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 5: Saint Patrick's Day, whatever, they do, you know what, but

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Speaker 5: don't wait if you see if look it's this is

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Speaker 5: gonna launch tomorrow, right, Tuesday, yep, okay, Tuesday the sixth. Right.

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Speaker 5: If DWTS hasn't put out an announcement of a sale

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Speaker 5: by let's say Thursday the eighth, just go to the site.

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Speaker 1: By shirt, just yeah, just do it, and by the different.

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Speaker 5: Sizes, because you never know, you know, if you like

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Speaker 5: to eat, you know what I mean, you might want

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Speaker 5: it loose one day, tight in the other.

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Speaker 2: You know, they go to your Instagram page, they're gonna go,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna go get the tips from your Instagram.

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Speaker 5: That's why absolutely listen what exactly. Once you're betting with

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Speaker 5: us and you're trading with us, and you're seeing what

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Speaker 5: we do the tips, I give tips for the sake

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Speaker 5: of tips, but I also walk you through and it's

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Speaker 5: very transparent and it's very kind of almost educational in

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Speaker 5: a sense. I love to if I'm making money, I

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Speaker 5: If I've got the tools and the skills, I want

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Speaker 5: to make sure that other people are benefiting. So hit

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Speaker 5: up the social media, keep an eye on it, and hopefully,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe you've got a new hobby now, and

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Speaker 5: maybe it's something that's good for you know, a dinner

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Speaker 5: or two every month.

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Speaker 1: What a guy.

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Speaker 2: If you want to follow me, it's at Chad E

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Speaker 2: and B on Twitter, at IB Exclusives on Instagram, and

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Speaker 2: my website is Ibexclusives dot com. I appreciate Joel for

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Speaker 2: hopping in the chair this week. Hopefully we will see

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Speaker 2: him again down the road soon. And for the Queen

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Speaker 2: of Extreme who's not here, we will see her next week.

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Speaker 2: This is the chadst We will catch you on the flip.

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