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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live, presented by Coors Light. Here on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Paul Latino and John Schmolke with you, and no,

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Speaker 1: you don't look like just saying sorry for the late start.

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Speaker 1: By the way, folks, we had to call an audible

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Speaker 1: some crazy things. The blitz packages that were kind of

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Speaker 1: thrown at us at the last minute caused some confusion.

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Speaker 1: But we are here for the next hour to talk

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Speaker 1: Giants football two one three or hashtag Giants Chat if

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Speaker 1: you prefer to hit us up on Twitter and uh, well,

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Speaker 1: the big news, Let's get right to it. John s

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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley took individual drills today, look great, said he's

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Speaker 1: feeling good. I can't believe it, but doesn't sound like

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Speaker 1: he's ready to play. I was not out there listening

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Speaker 1: to Schumer today, so I must have been. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little ill prepared here. Did he surprised anything? Besides, he's

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Speaker 1: going to be smart with him on Friday. It's exactly

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Speaker 1: what he said, and he's also a ringing from a

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Speaker 1: tweak of that's exactly what he said. Yes, so folks, look,

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Speaker 1: we don't know anything and truth be told you know,

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Speaker 1: we get these productions with the coach. He doesn't tell

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Speaker 1: anything about injuries and those meetings either, by the way,

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Speaker 1: so we don't know anything. Um shocking to you, I know.

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Speaker 1: But if I had to make my best guests, and

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Speaker 1: it's simply a guest, Paul, we're not going to see

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Speaker 1: him until Jacksonville in week number one, I'm inclined to

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Speaker 1: agree with you, and I think we could probably say

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Speaker 1: the same thing about number thirteen. Well, I'm sure he

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Speaker 1: was asked about again today and he was and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be smart with him too, exactly. You've been through

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Speaker 1: this before. It is not my first rodeo in any case, folks. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That was the big news of the day is that

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Speaker 1: Barkley did take individuals. Now, to be clear, what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about here is a carded practice, um where they

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Speaker 1: were in shells. There was no contact and so going

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Speaker 1: about three quarters speed. Yes, yes, So even though Barkley

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Speaker 1: then went over to the individual drills and caught some passes, uh,

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is he hasn't really had a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of physical contact, if at all. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: he did a lot with the trainers yesterday on the

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Speaker 1: to be just fine. I thought the one thing that

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Speaker 1: was interesting and I ran to Dan Salmon on the

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Speaker 1: way back from media and he told me that Barkley

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Speaker 1: basically said, look, I didn't really practice much of Penn State,

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Speaker 1: so this is no big deal, which which which I

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Speaker 1: found very interesting. Apparently they paced him during the week.

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Speaker 1: They were so they were smart with him the Penn

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Speaker 1: State as well as yes, smartest, grab your marks. What's

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Speaker 1: the mystery word today, smart? It's been that way all month.

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Speaker 1: In any event, Uh, Barkley did say that he understands

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Speaker 1: the game of injuries and that the trainers understand the

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Speaker 1: medical stuff better than he does, and so he will

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Speaker 1: rely on them and he will of course be smart

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Speaker 1: as well, and when he gets cleared, he'll get to

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Speaker 1: go in there. So honestly, folks, that's the big headline

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Speaker 1: of the day. That's what's probably showing up all over

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Speaker 1: the blogs and Twitter and the crawl on your television.

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Speaker 1: I understand, you know, he is a magnet for media attention,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine, But just to let you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not like all of a sudden, he's doing everything on

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Speaker 1: that's still a few weeks away. But let me ask

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Speaker 1: you a hypothetical question, and that Pat Shermer refused to

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Speaker 1: answer yesterday, So I'm gonna ask you and see if

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Speaker 1: I can get you to answer. If the Giants were

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Speaker 1: playing the Jacksonville Jaguars tomorrow night and MetLife Stadium, is

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Speaker 1: Sakon Barkley starting and running back. I have a hunch

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Speaker 1: that he would be active for the game. I would

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Speaker 1: would be active for the game. I agree, and we

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Speaker 1: can leave it at that. I believe we can tell

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Speaker 1: on nine, nine, four or five one three is our

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Speaker 1: phone number here on Big Blue kick Off. And again

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Speaker 1: that's just guesses on our parts. By the way, we

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Speaker 1: don't know what the medical reports say, but based on

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Speaker 1: this staff in Sherman Awy handles things, that's my best guess. Yeah, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: four based on where he is right now, you would hope.

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Speaker 1: So I will say this coach Charmer did say that

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Speaker 1: Pressley is going to play against the Jets and they're

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Speaker 1: out of running backs. But but but he was assertive

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Speaker 1: but we know Pressley is gonna play, which, of course,

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Speaker 1: swa two on one night three, nine four or five

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Speaker 1: on three coach Marvin is online number one, let's start

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Speaker 1: off the show, and so glad you could call his

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Speaker 1: coach's coach. How you doing you do well? Great? How

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing good, doing good. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: on what I saw last week and uh again, um um,

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Speaker 1: if he can do it this um this week, if

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Speaker 1: do it again. Let's see some consistency with that. And

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Speaker 1: I think cal Aletta, he's still proving a lot. To me,

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Speaker 1: he's had a good week on the long ball where

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Speaker 1: he drops that rainbow pass right into the bucket to

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Speaker 1: without question, it's it's it's it's been a good one

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Speaker 1: for him. But but I will say this, the way

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Speaker 1: would appear because he's taken more than he did last week.

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Speaker 1: It would appear that he's going to be in line

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Speaker 1: see that, That's my guest. I could see that. Go ahead, coach.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking Kyle may not even

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Speaker 1: um they may bring um Eli out in the third

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Speaker 1: for the year. UM. He has sarcastically said to us

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Speaker 1: a few different times that halftime adjustments or a load

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Speaker 1: I would be surprised to s ELI in the third

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Speaker 1: you do have to make adjustments. But well, Coach Marvin,

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Speaker 1: here's the problem. And I'm being all serious about this,

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Speaker 1: and I've had this conversation with multiple coaches, so it's

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Speaker 1: not just coach Charmer. Halftime literally last twelve minutes. It

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Speaker 1: four minutes. So honestly, yeah, you can maybe call your

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Speaker 1: But that's actually a coaching decision, that's the way. Why

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Speaker 1: if you're a defensive coordinator, you have more time during

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Speaker 1: those those things can be done at anytime anyway. Coach,

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Speaker 1: I and UH like I like watching him. Coach, I

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Speaker 1: heard people call him like a lot of Johnson Halley

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Speaker 1: and yeah, they are around the ball a lot. The

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Speaker 1: it's the receiver catching the ball in front of them.

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Speaker 1: We've seen those guys in my opinion poem, Please correct

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Speaker 1: me you think I'm wrong. I think in the two

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Speaker 1: I would say this, I think Johnson at best in

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that that's entirely possible. That's very possible.

428
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Speaker 1: I'm not staring at him every play, so I can't

429
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Speaker 1: tell you for sure that didn't happen. That adjective is

430
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Speaker 1: very exaggerated. There was nothing this week that looked any

431
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Speaker 1: different than what I've seen over the course of training

432
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Speaker 1: camp in the spring. Okay, and I had you guys

433
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Speaker 1: had on yesterday, which you know, like, I'm sorry I

434
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Speaker 1: didn't get proved because he's one of my all time favorites,

435
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Speaker 1: a great leader. And I'll tell you what, I'm surprised

436
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 1: he never was a coach because if anybody had the qualification,

437
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: he don want to put the time in. That's what

438
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: it is, you know what. And I've made this little

439
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Speaker 1: speech before, I'm gonna make it again. You're a player

440
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Speaker 1: and you make millions of dollars. Okay, he's literally banked

441
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Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. If he wants to go into coaching,

442
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Speaker 1: he has to take a job that's gonna pay him

443
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Speaker 1: probably a hundred thousand dollars a year, and he's gonna

444
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Speaker 1: have to work, let's see, sixteen hour days, sixty six

445
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: days a week. He's have to work about eight hundred

446
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: hour weeks all season for a hundred thousand dollars a

447
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: year and basically have no life outside of the office.

448
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Speaker 1: Why in God's green earth, what anybody that has thirty

449
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Speaker 1: million dollars in the bank want to do something like.

450
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Speaker 1: He also has a young little one at home. He

451
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Speaker 1: does have a young he does have a young childhood home.

452
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Speaker 1: That's also true. Being assistant coaches though, is talking about

453
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Speaker 1: you know, of course he came up about uy Apple

454
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Speaker 1: and they were asking and uh as he turned his

455
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Speaker 1: head around and and what he said was, here's what

456
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about him. I think he has all

457
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Speaker 1: the tools he's got to hide, he's got the speed

458
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Speaker 1: he's getting. You know, he doesn't mind making contact. Um,

459
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Speaker 1: he does seem to turnaround head thing. And what he

460
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Speaker 1: said about that is the way he used to look

461
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Speaker 1: at it is that the ball was a million dollars, right,

462
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Speaker 1: he said, so every time I turn around and I

463
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Speaker 1: may get an interception, that's another million dollars to me, okay.

464
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Speaker 1: And he said he's going to express that day and

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Speaker 1: when he talks to him, and you know what, that

466
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Speaker 1: was a great way to look at it. I listened

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Speaker 1: to him and I said, you know, he's thinking, you know,

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00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: all right, guys, thank you, thank you that that that

469
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Speaker 1: that is funny. I appreciate that. You say. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: They what if it's a million dollars, they're gonna be

471
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Speaker 1: looking for it, You're gonna find it. Yeah, well you

472
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: might want to use some stick them too, even though

473
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Speaker 1: they outloaded the big big Nindans. Right, But if you're

474
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Speaker 1: making a million dollars per pick, you can afford to

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Speaker 1: pay the fine. Yes, And also why you wouldn't have

476
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Speaker 1: to be an assistant coach after you finished playing? And

477
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Speaker 1: I know people you know say, ah, these players should

478
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Speaker 1: be coaches. Why are more ex players coaches? Being an

479
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: assistant coaches like the least glamorous job. Ever, It's a

480
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Speaker 1: brutal grind. It is a grind man. And by the way,

481
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Speaker 1: there ain't no payoff either. It's not like you're the

482
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Speaker 1: one getting credit if the team wins a bunch of games.

483
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Speaker 1: You're just sitting there behind the scenes doing your thing.

484
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Speaker 1: And then if things go wrong with your group, guess what,

485
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: people will come after you. But if your group does great,

486
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: no one knows who you are. They just give the

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Speaker 1: credit to the players. People ask me all the time,

488
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Speaker 1: because of the love that I have for the game,

489
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Speaker 1: did I ever consider pursuing a coaching path years ago?

490
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Speaker 1: Because I really do love the game. You know that

491
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be goofy, and my answer was

492
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Speaker 1: coaches don't nearly have the lifespan of answers to It's

493
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Speaker 1: really very simple. You know. I thought it was because

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Speaker 1: of that feilt. Psychological test could have been part of it.

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Speaker 1: Lie three, we go to Doug in Rochester, Hello, and

496
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Speaker 1: going on, how you guys doing, what's up? Do? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Where I got you to? Um? He said something love

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Speaker 1: the day. Well, I didn't kind of agree with I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about og tree, Um. A couple of follows. You said,

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Speaker 1: um over tree and m he covered the tiling for

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Speaker 1: the Browns, gotta be for a testdown and then running

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Speaker 1: back reading right for for or four yards. You said,

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Speaker 1: it just happens. You know I don't. I don't agree

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Speaker 1: with that what you saying it's gonna happen. Because I

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Speaker 1: looked at Jacksonville. I got over the player and the

506
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Speaker 1: kid from Alabama, Eames Fielding whatever his name is, he

507
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: was chilling the team coming out the back. So we

508
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Speaker 1: can't have that and running out the hope chasing him

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Speaker 1: the first game of the season. Now, sure, it's gotta

510
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Speaker 1: be some other options. It's gotta be the safety. You

511
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Speaker 1: come out safety really or somebody that can cover that

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Speaker 1: back because just say fast. Well I'll say this here, sy,

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Speaker 1: I just want to respond to that. What what I

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Speaker 1: said was against certain elite tight ends, if they get

515
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Speaker 1: certain matchups on certain plays, it is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way coordinators work. They're looking to isolate

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Speaker 1: what they believe is a favorable matchup, and every once

518
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Speaker 1: in a while they're gonna outscheme you and they're gonna

519
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Speaker 1: burn your guy, and it is going to happen a

520
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Speaker 1: very few now, unfortunately, Doug the way it goes. And look,

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Speaker 1: there are exceptions to the rule like the Shawan Lees

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Speaker 1: and Luke keith LEAs, and then you know even like

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Speaker 1: like like a Telvin Smith who's only two pounds and

524
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Speaker 1: can run around like a lunatic, or uh Shaq Thompson

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Speaker 1: and Caroline Safety whatever, pick your guy. They can cover

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Speaker 1: some of those really fast tight ends and running backs.

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Speaker 1: What offensive coordinators, is Paul said, are trying to do

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Speaker 1: against every team, and we're not just talking giants here.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get those one on one matchups with linebackers.

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Speaker 1: If you get a middle linebacker against the tight end

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Speaker 1: or a running back that's an advantage for the offense. Again,

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Speaker 1: unless you're playing against you know, the Luke Hickley or

533
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Speaker 1: Show Only or something like that. So that's not something

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Speaker 1: that's unique to the Giants that will we so happen

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Speaker 1: to them in the preseason. That's to be fair, somebody

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00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: slot back on some plays that will happen, but it

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Speaker 1: won't happen every time. It won't happen every time. And

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00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 1: quite frankly, ocal Tree is considered a three down backer

539
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Speaker 1: who does have some cover skills and mobility, But you know,

540
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Speaker 1: is he going to Canton? Is he a Hall of

541
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Speaker 1: Fame a linebacker who can cover everybody in the league. No,

542
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: he's not. I feel better about him honestly covering a

543
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: player like he would have had to when and Joko

544
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: caught his ball. The whole thing on the and Joku

545
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: play wasn't that and joking just out random. Ogletree when

546
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: he went to cover, took a terrible angle and Joker

547
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: was coming off the field. Ogul Tree came down hill

548
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: on him, expecting to go to the outside. So by

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00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: the time that Joker started running up the field, Ogul

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00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: Tree would have had to completely turn around and change direction.

551
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 1: While and Jokes running in a straight line, so before

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Speaker 1: he even got into position to cover him, it was

553
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Speaker 1: over and he lost. No. See to me, that's that's

554
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: a different type of total and I would have more

555
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: concerns about that type of play because he's isolated. He

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Speaker 1: was Theoretic was lined up in the slot. He wasn't

557
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: even in the backfields. Okay, So he's lined up like

558
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: a slot corner against a really quick side to side player,

559
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: and Joke is more of a straight line speed guy.

560
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: Riddick's more of a side to side quickness guy, and

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00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: an isolated scenario in space, It's going to be really

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Speaker 1: hard for Ogiltree to stay with a guy like Theoretic

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Speaker 1: in a route situation. So I again, I think ogle

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Speaker 1: Tree with a straight line speed will do okay down

565
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Speaker 1: the seam in situations like he had against in Joku.

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Speaker 1: He did it poorly in Week one, No argument, he

567
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: knows that, but you would like to avoid the type

568
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: of one on what scenarios against remember against Cleveland, then no,

569
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Speaker 1: but they try to do that against every team that's

570
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's not just the Giants. Listen against Cleveland

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00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: on that play, the Giants called the safety blitz, okay,

572
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: which is why Ogiltree was left hanging out to dry.

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00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: Once he took the bad angle, he had no protection

574
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: behind him, so he was a dead man. Now, you'd

575
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: like to believe in a perfect world, if that play

576
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Speaker 1: gets called again and the other team matches the tight

577
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: end up against Ogletree, either a he'll get a jam

578
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: at a line or take a better angle, or the

579
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: other way that that that play gets stopped, yes, gets

580
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: home or he has from the safety. We won't happen

581
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: if it's a safety. That's true. And by the way,

582
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: if you don't think the Giant's gonna try to do that,

583
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: same exacts up with se Kwon Barkley and catch other

584
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: teams in the exact same and with Ingram too. It's

585
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna be all day. Okay, that's gonna be a pro guys,

586
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: because it goes a special player. But you know, average

587
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: time in I hope over treating cover, there's an average time.

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00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Ingram now, you're talking about

589
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: somebody special. But time out, dog, time out. David and

590
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: Joeku was considered by many as a better tight end

591
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: than Evan Engram coming out of the draft. Less he's

592
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: he's legit, he's fast, he's a great athlete that the

593
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: theoretics one of the best third backs of the league drafting. Yeah,

594
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: but I think England had no better year than him. Dog. Here,

595
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay, there are no

596
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: more Pittsburgh Steelers steel curtain defenses in the NFL that

597
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: have superstar Hall of famers at every position and have

598
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: no thin spots, no weaknesses, and no areas that you

599
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: can attack. That's not the way today's game is. Everybody

600
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: has soft spots, bruises on the apple, if you will,

601
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: and offensive coordinators are paid to study those bruises and

602
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: attack them. And Doug, I think it's pretty telling when

603
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: the Giants gave Ray Armstrong a chance to be the

604
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: second nickel linebacker this week, it wasn't. It wasn't alec Ogletree.

605
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: They took off the field those b J Goodson. So

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00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: I think that tells you what the coaches they think

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00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: ogle Tree has it in him to do a better

608
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: job at coverage, and I think he believes that too.

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00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: We'll see if it's right, Doug. We gotta run. I'm sorry,

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00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: We'll get you another time. Go ahead, Let um w,

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Speaker 1: I won't be able to see the game. Last week,

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Speaker 1: I try to go to the w CW York. I

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00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: heard you Guys show on a different radio station and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get it. That's because it was in Detroit. Yes, no, no, no, no.

615
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: If if you're in the New York area, the game

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: would have been heard on eight a d a m.

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: And the whole game would have been heard on eight

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Speaker 1: A d a m. On the radio. Okay, So if

619
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm not Chester, why I can get it on the radio?

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00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: If you're aware if I'm Chester, that's the reason why

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get the game. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it would

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Speaker 1: be in the local metropolitan area. It'll be on w

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Speaker 1: CBS up in Rochester. Do I have a radio affilion

624
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: in Rochester. I'm actually the guy that should know this.

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: John co ordinates the affiliates on the radio. Do me

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Speaker 1: a favorite? Dog. Are you on Twitter? Um? Yeah, I

627
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: gotta do Twitter. Do me a favorite, Do me a favor,

628
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Send me a tweet, and I will get back to

629
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Speaker 1: you on where our games are on the radio in

630
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: that area, and I'll try to help you out, all right,

631
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: by the way, dog, Because I'm thinking if it's Buffalo.

632
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: I might have been might be getting Buffalo. I don't know.

633
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: If you can't hold on, that's and by the way,

634
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: you can also stream the game onlines. If you want

635
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: to listen to the game online, you can. You can listen.

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Speaker 1: I believe it will be on either wfan dot com

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Speaker 1: go to one of those two streams and you can

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Speaker 1: listen to it that way too. Now, Doug, I also

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Speaker 1: want you what rations all of America, and I picked

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Speaker 1: new uf c R. Yeah that's better. But but also, Doug,

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Speaker 1: if you want to see the game and you can't

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Speaker 1: get it on what would be locally channel to w

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Speaker 1: CBS here in New York, you can wait and see

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Speaker 1: it on tape delay. NFL Network will show the game

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Speaker 1: on tape delay on Sunday, August twenty six. That's a

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Speaker 1: couple of days after it's played, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on It's gonna be on NFL Network ten am on

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning. On tape delay. You'll get to see the telecast.

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Speaker 1: But I want I wanted to all right, thank you, appreciate, perfect,

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Speaker 1: thank fortunate. Unfortunately, by the way, I should point out

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Speaker 1: Rochester is technically in the Bills market. That's why we

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Speaker 1: do not have a television affiliate in Rochester. We cannot

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Speaker 1: air our preseason games in another team's NFL market, and

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Speaker 1: Rochester is technically the Bill's home market, so that's why

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Speaker 1: you won't see our games. Have an affiliate, they're on TV. Again.

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Speaker 1: This is inside TV and radio stuff, and the same

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Speaker 1: thing for radio, which is why I don't think we

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Speaker 1: actually we have a station in Syracuse. We don't have

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Speaker 1: a station in years ago, but not lately. We have

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Speaker 1: one in Watertown. We don't have one in Rochester, so

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Speaker 1: I think you might be out of luck, but I

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Speaker 1: will do my best to find something for you. Doug. Folks,

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Speaker 1: We go to line one. Scott is in New Mexico. Hello,

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Speaker 1: hey guys, are you doing today? Question for you? Each

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Speaker 1: day I watched a different backup wide receiver made plays

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Speaker 1: in practice and right right now on the roster they

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Speaker 1: have at a cattle pronouncing his name correctly. Russell Shepard, Calife,

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Speaker 1: Raymond Hunter, Sharp, Cody Latimer, Jamille Davis, Roger Lewis, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Marcus Bundey is still on the game.

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Speaker 1: Travis Rudolph too as well. How can the I mean,

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Speaker 1: first of all, the first question is how many wide

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Speaker 1: receivers do you think the Giants will have? And I

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Speaker 1: know you've both talked about Cody Latimer having the leg

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Speaker 1: up on most of the other guys, but watching the games,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been as impressive, So I was just curious

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Speaker 1: if he still has the leg up and who you

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Speaker 1: think might be a second or third wide receivers if

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Speaker 1: the Giants say are going to keep five considering the

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Speaker 1: obviously too, I'll speak for both of us. I think

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Speaker 1: both of us do think he still has a leg

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Speaker 1: up to be on the roster for sure. We Actually

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Speaker 1: it's funny they actually haven't really used him on special

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Speaker 1: teams much because they know what he can do, so

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Speaker 1: they're trying to give these other guys a chance to

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Speaker 1: show what they can do on special teams. So I

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Speaker 1: would expect we'll see him as a gunner on punt

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Speaker 1: return at least at once on Friday night. Uh. In

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Speaker 1: terms of the other guys, Look, I don't have an

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Speaker 1: answer for you. I think a lot of it's gonna

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Speaker 1: depend on what they do in these preseason games and

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Speaker 1: on this Friday and next Thursday, and that's gonna decide

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Speaker 1: about the right point. I would say this, I think

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Speaker 1: he's got a nose jo on the rest of them.

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Speaker 1: That would be Russell Shephard. He's a veteran, He's shown

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Speaker 1: good hands, runs pretty good routes. Uh. He's done nothing

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Speaker 1: to lose the job. In other words, you saw Hunters

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Speaker 1: sharp last week, muff kick and fumble away a return.

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Speaker 1: Russell Shepherd has not shown any issues with ball security.

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Speaker 1: He also plays on special teams. What has he done

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Speaker 1: on special We have seen him on coverage. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen him as a gunner on right. We've well, we've

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Speaker 1: seen him inside and he's also been on the front

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Speaker 1: line on the returns. Okay, Uh, And I think that

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Speaker 1: boat's wealth for him. The other thing is, remember there

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Speaker 1: is a connection with Carolina with Dave Getleman. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say right now, unless Russell Sheppard has has some

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Speaker 1: faux pause over the next couple of weeks. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say right now he's nosed ahead of everybody else for

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Speaker 1: the number four spot. Can I disagree with for a second.

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Speaker 1: I would say my nose up guy is Roger Lewis.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that's the case is he's actually done

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Speaker 1: a very good job as a gunner in these preseason

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Speaker 1: games he has, And if you can be a good

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Speaker 1: gunner as well as be a fourth wide receiver, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a pretty good way to get on the roster. Now,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't help in the return game, I get that,

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Speaker 1: but if he helps you as a gunner and he

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Speaker 1: can be a receiver, He's been here, he's familiar with

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Speaker 1: eli Um. I think after a year last year where

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Speaker 1: he kind of didn't do that well on special teams,

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Speaker 1: I think he's kind of re embraced that role a

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Speaker 1: little bit this year. So in my opinion, I think

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Speaker 1: Lewis has the nose up to be the fourth guy.

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Speaker 1: And if this way well, they could keep them both

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Speaker 1: and before and five absolutely and Hunter Sharp I think

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Speaker 1: they want him on the team because of his versatility

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Speaker 1: on special teams. He can return kicks, he can return punts,

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Speaker 1: he can be a gunner, do all those things. But

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Speaker 1: if he drops one more Paul, whether it's as a

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Speaker 1: receiver or on special teams, and I love him, he's

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Speaker 1: the nicest guy in the world. I really want him

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Speaker 1: to make it. He's a good dude, but he's he's

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Speaker 1: gotta keep his hands on the football. As for as

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Speaker 1: for the number of receivers, I'm beginning to think more

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Speaker 1: and more it's not going to be six. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be I think they're gonna need to steal that

742
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Speaker 1: potential six spot for another position. And I think the

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Speaker 1: good thing too, is that I have all these young guys,

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Speaker 1: Like if they want to try to get Joel Davis

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Speaker 1: onto the practice squad, they'll be able to do that.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna do what you think. So unless he

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Speaker 1: has a monster game against the Patriots next week or

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Speaker 1: something like Victor Cruz did against the Jets seven years ago,

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Speaker 1: number eighty. That's why it up right now now with

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Speaker 1: one of the actual roster cut starters. First of this

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Speaker 1: game Sember one, you have to get down September one. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: they can starting, they can whatever they want, but the

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Speaker 1: deadline is the Saturday afternoon after the Patriarch at four

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Speaker 1: o'clock on the first and all all the way down

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Speaker 1: to fifty three. Okay, And my last point is it

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Speaker 1: looks like the offensive line is set the way it

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Speaker 1: is right now with both of you guys concur that's

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Speaker 1: actually the way it's gonna format right now for the season.

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Speaker 1: Pat Charmer said the other day that it's not setting Stone.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he meant the starters or if

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Speaker 1: he meant the depth chart. In generally hear about that.

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Speaker 1: He might have at least this way. I think the

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Speaker 1: left side of the line is in Stone. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have so left tackle, you're gonna have hrnand as a

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Speaker 1: left guard. We know that. I know you've been saying

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Speaker 1: all summer you think Brett Jones is gonna step in

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Speaker 1: there and still think he's got a chance to do

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Speaker 1: You think you will. It's got two games to do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet on them. Okay. I think Halapio is

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Speaker 1: in pretty good shape. Its center. Well will disagree on that,

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00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: and that's fine. Patrickal Mommy, I thought started camp well.

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Speaker 1: I think he's had some shaky moments in games and

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00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: the couple in practice too. I think he's smart. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's an issue him and Flowers have

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00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: communicated poorly on some stunts and twist and things like that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they could give Gregor or John Jerry a

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Speaker 1: chance there, but I would be surprised at the starting

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Speaker 1: five we've seen the last two weeks. Aren't the starting

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Speaker 1: five Week one against Jackson. There's one other option here,

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Speaker 1: What do you got If they really like what Hallopeo

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00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: was done and they really like Brett Jones and it's

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00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: a tough called, they could go for Hallopeo to right

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Speaker 1: guard if they like him better than oh mom A

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Speaker 1: and Jones and Hallopeo might both be starting. That's not

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Speaker 1: out of the question. You're interesting. I was just curious

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Speaker 1: about one point in regards that. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he if he has the ability or not, but hal

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Speaker 1: Appeal played tackle just just Gardens interior line. And that's

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Speaker 1: the trick. And think Scott, if Giant fans want to

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Speaker 1: look around the league and watch non Giants preseason games,

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Speaker 1: keeping on the backup tackles for other NFL teams, because

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Speaker 1: that's what the Giants have been looking at when the

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Speaker 1: waiver wire hits at the end of you Okay, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Guys thin again. Thank you, appreciate it. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to Twitter tweet. We have a couple

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Speaker 1: of lines open. We're gonna go a few minutes more

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Speaker 1: since we started late today. Let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: come up with I got hit latest. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mr Technology. James Jones gets back. Oh no, I read

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Speaker 1: that one already here, already said that. So we don't

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Speaker 1: have any more tweets. All right, that's fine, All right,

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Speaker 1: Well how about this. I can tell people about this again.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. We like to remind you that Big Blue

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Speaker 1: And John Ells jump out at you from media today, Uh,

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00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily from media, but I will say I've thought

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Speaker 1: all along that Altric Grossas was was in good position

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Speaker 1: for the kicking spot today when they ran a quick

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00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: hustle kicking unit onto the field and the fire drill,

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Speaker 1: he missed wide right, And I was disappointed in that

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Speaker 1: because I think he's had a good camp. Did you

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Speaker 1: see how far that was? Was it about forty I

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Speaker 1: couldn't see from where we were standing or what our media.

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Speaker 1: Usually there were usually those May day drills. They'll kick

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Speaker 1: it anywhere between thirty five and I think it might

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Speaker 1: have been about forty five, and he just pushed it

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Speaker 1: to the right. And I was disappointed in that because

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Speaker 1: I really think for the most part he has been

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Speaker 1: very solid. I think he's out kicked colde. I agree, well,

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Speaker 1: Cohen hit the upright on a point after the other day.

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Speaker 1: Didn't help himself, you know, did not help himself at all.

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Speaker 1: Um two one nine four five one three. Oh. We

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Speaker 1: have a tweet from n N why sports fan says,

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Speaker 1: just you guys mentioned on b B k L about

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Speaker 1: how they're subbing Armstrong for Goodson on throw down and

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Speaker 1: keeping ogle Tree on the field. I know this means

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Speaker 1: they think that ogle Tree can do better, but I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering how good is Armstrong and coverage? Can he handle

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Speaker 1: that spot. He's a great at He's he's a good athlete.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the word great around haphazardly. He's a

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Speaker 1: good athlete, he's long, he can run, so I think

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Speaker 1: they're optimistic he can handle it. But there's more to

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Speaker 1: being a cover linebacker than just being a good athlete.

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Speaker 1: It's things like taking angles, being aware and things like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing Ray areo I'm strong and

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Speaker 1: do that in a game, especially against the team like

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Speaker 1: the Jets, where if you've watched any of their games

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Speaker 1: this year, and I have, is I wanted to watch

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Speaker 1: Donald play. They do a lot of short stuff in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, which puts pressure on the

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker. So I'm looking forward to seeing that. It

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00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: is a bit disturbing that and a half a dozen

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Speaker 1: years in the NFL, he's never actually crawled out a

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Speaker 1: heavy rotation outside of one season in terms of playing time.

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Speaker 1: That that's got to concern you somewhat. Um go back

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Speaker 1: to the phone to the second but Adam Costa says,

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Speaker 1: what is up with kind of Barwin? Is he going

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Speaker 1: to make the team? I know Karl Banks says, you

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Speaker 1: can't make the club in the tub. Barwin was back

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Speaker 1: out there today, but again this was a very very

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Speaker 1: tame workout session, and he seemed to indicate in Detroit

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Speaker 1: that he's not really dealing with an injury. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a general swordness type thing. I think it's

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Speaker 1: tasting the veteran through August, and that veteran was not

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Speaker 1: here in the spring, so kind of jumped in feet

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Speaker 1: first and into the you know, high level, high intense

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Speaker 1: training camp stuff. So I think they're just being careful

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Speaker 1: that he's a veteran. He knows what he's doing when

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Speaker 1: they need him on the field member, and he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be guys gonna play you know, sixty defensive snaps

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Speaker 1: game either, So you need him for twenty to thirty

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Speaker 1: snaps and he'll be fine. We go J Line one

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Speaker 1: and Dre from Rochester, You're next on the program, he Dre.

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Speaker 1: Do me a favor. Do you have a station or

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Speaker 1: away TV or radio in Rochester to watch these preseason games?

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Speaker 1: From my man? Dug out there? No, sorry, I was

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Speaker 1: hoping you had something for me. There's no way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys live in Bill's territory. There's nothing I could do.

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Speaker 1: I try. The NFL stops me. It's all my fault,

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Speaker 1: you know, every time, every time the folks up there

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Speaker 1: trying to tune it in there, especially doing the regular season.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to the Blocher Report, you know, Chris

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Speaker 1: Sims Show, and they said on six or thirty six

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Speaker 1: run place, the Giants defense has only allowed nineteen yards

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Speaker 1: and I was just wondering do you think that would

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Speaker 1: translate to the regular season. And I'll let you guys go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Very optimistic about the Giants rush defense this year.

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Speaker 1: You're putting out there every three guys that are capable

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Speaker 1: of playing nose tackle on your defensive line, with Snacks

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Speaker 1: and b J. Hill and Dalvin Thomlinson that all played

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Speaker 1: that one technique or um at at points during their

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Speaker 1: college career, and obviously Snacks is one of the premier

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Speaker 1: run defenders in all of football. So I'm optimistic about

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Speaker 1: the run defense. I think Ogletree strength is going down hill.

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Speaker 1: He's a big guy. I think b JS Goodson strength

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Speaker 1: is going down hill. He's a big guy. Vernon has

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Speaker 1: always been a good edge center, and I think Creean

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Speaker 1: Martin is a better run stopper than he's a pass

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Speaker 1: rusher too. So I am very optimistic about the Giants

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Speaker 1: rush defense. Will they be the best team in the league,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I I think they will be

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Speaker 1: very reliable against the run. You're not gonna see a

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Speaker 1: lot of these games like last year where teams a

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Speaker 1: running for two yards on this group. I totally concur

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Speaker 1: with that evaluation. And by the way, they run a

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Speaker 1: lot of single high safety, which means that second safety

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Speaker 1: is often in the box, So you're gonna see eight

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Speaker 1: guys in the box a lot for this giant defense too,

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Speaker 1: which also helps. Uh. I don't know if you've ever

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Speaker 1: seen Dana mr Bardo on Twitter. I have not seen

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Speaker 1: Mr Bardo. He's a an interesting character, seems like one

903
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: of your otives. He looks like a a giant version

904
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Speaker 1: of zz Top for lack of a better For lack

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Speaker 1: of a better phrase, anyway, he wants to know about

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Speaker 1: how much the starters are going to be seen in

907
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Speaker 1: the game against the Jets, thinking they make it a half.

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Speaker 1: And I think Shermer was very particular about answering this

909
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: question yesterday when he said some guys do need some

910
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: more work, but there are other veterans who may not.

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Speaker 1: So I really think he's gonna take it on a

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Speaker 1: case by case basis. I don't think he's gonna take

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Speaker 1: it by a unit basis. Yes, um, I think Eli

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Speaker 1: will probably stick with the first team offensive line as

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Speaker 1: long as the safe he lies in the first team

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Speaker 1: offensive line will be in. Now, would it shock him

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Speaker 1: to see David's web behind the first team offensive line

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Speaker 1: a little bit, No would if you want or if yeah,

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Speaker 1: that too. Maybe you want to give Webb the you know,

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Speaker 1: the second part of the second quarter, imply Eli, I

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Speaker 1: play a quarter and a half or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe try to get web two minute drill situation at

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Speaker 1: the end of the first half, which is always good

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Speaker 1: for young quarterbacks to experience. I can see that, um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I agree. I think it is a case

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Speaker 1: by case basis, though I do think units will come

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Speaker 1: on and off together, like I don't think you'll see,

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Speaker 1: you know, half the starting secondary leave and half the

929
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Speaker 1: backup secondary come in because I think you wanted to

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00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: stick those units together because those are the groups that

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Speaker 1: have chemistry with each other. That makes a lot of

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Speaker 1: sense to me. Although I would say this guy's like

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Speaker 1: on defense, Olivier Vernon, Landon Collins, they did come out

934
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Speaker 1: before some of the other starters did the other day,

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Speaker 1: and I think the same thing will happen against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I agree, you know, yeah, no, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. So maybe I take back my

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Speaker 1: previous point. That's a good point. Do we need to

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Speaker 1: pop these folks again one more time? Hurt folks, that'll

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Speaker 1: do it. For today's show. We want to remind you

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Speaker 1: that Big Blue Kickoff Live is presented by Corps Light.

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Speaker 1: Download the Corpse Light Rewards app to an amazing Giants

943
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: prizes throughout the season. We are here for the rest

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Speaker 1: of the week from two to three pm Eastern time

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Speaker 1: next week as well, I believe John Monday to Friday,

946
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Speaker 1: and we will take your phone calls as always at

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Speaker 1: two O one five one three. By the way, should

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Speaker 1: I announced our regular season schedule, we could start promoting

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Speaker 1: that one thirty folks. I know you're probably not going

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Speaker 1: to be thrilled with it. We're not particularly thrilled with

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Speaker 1: it either, but um, two days a week, the Giants

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Speaker 1: had media availabilities in practice between eleven and twelve thirty.

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Speaker 1: The other two days it's between twelve thirty and one thirty. So, um,

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Speaker 1: unless we're changing the time of this every day, which

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna do because I think it inconveniences all

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Speaker 1: of you fans out there who want to find this

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Speaker 1: at the same time every week. Uh, the only time

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Speaker 1: that works unless we're getting up and doing it at

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Speaker 1: ten at ten am, which we don't think is a

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Speaker 1: great idea, we'll be with you every day one thirty

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Speaker 1: to thirty during the regular season. The good news is

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Speaker 1: that's gonna take place after media availabilities. It'll take place

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Speaker 1: after the first portion of practice, so we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: all the injury news for you. Yep, We're gonna have

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00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: everything that's in the locker room for you, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have a fully updated show when we go every day

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Speaker 1: from one thirty to two thirty, and of course the

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Speaker 1: show we posted up on iTunes and whatever favorite podcast

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Speaker 1: you might have. Again, that is for the regular season. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this week and next week we are still two pm

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Speaker 1: to three pm Eastern Time, and we should have the

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Speaker 1: same crew. I expect to have David Deal back once

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Speaker 1: a week, Cross once a week, Russell be back as well,

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Speaker 1: and then Paul Lance and I and of course Jeff

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Speaker 1: Eagles will be here as well, so we'll split them all.

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Speaker 1: Always invite you folks to join us. We enjoy interacting

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Speaker 1: with Hugh shows all about you, guys. You know that

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Speaker 1: we can't do it without you. That'll do it for

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Speaker 1: this edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live for John. I'm Paul.

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Speaker 1: See you next time ocation yeah uh yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: fun