1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hi, This is due the virus. I'm recording from home, 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: so you may notice a difference in audio quality. On 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: this episode of News World. President Trump has taken on China, 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: challenged the deep state, secured our borders, and enacted stronger 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: immigration policies. He's not only made America great again, he 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: has set a new standard for all presidents, and he's 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: likely set an agenda for the next hundred years. Lou 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: dobbs new book, The Trump's Century, How Our President Changed 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: the Course of History Forever, opens a window into Trump's 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: thinking on the economy, foreign policy, border security, and it 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: will energize his allies when they realize the future they've shaped. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm pleased to welcome my guest, Lou Dobbs. Lou is 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: the New York Times bestselling author of six books and 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: the host of the number one news program on business television, 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Lou Dobbs Tonight on Fox Business Network. He's also the 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: host of the nationally syndicated Blue Doves financial reports airing 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: on the radio daily. Named TV's premier business news anchorman 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: by The Wall Street Journal, Dobbs has numerous Emmys, a 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Cable Ace Award, a Peabody Award, and many other distinguished honors. 20 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm delighted to have this chance to chat with a 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, somebody whose show I have been 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: on many times and it's always pretty remarkable. Blue Dobbs 23 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: is the host of the number one news program on 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: business television. Blue Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: is a new book coming out called The Trump Century, 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: How our President changed the course of history forever. I'm delighted, 27 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Loue to welcome you. You cover this country so well 28 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: on your show, and you have your finger on the pulse. 29 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: What's your sense of what America is right now? We 30 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: have never been in such confusing turmoil as now. We 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: are now a nation that is, in my judgment, under 32 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: assault by what was once the loyal opposition, and that 33 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: is the Democratic Party. There is no equivocation on their part. 34 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: They mean to overthrow this president right up until the 35 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: election day and perhaps maybe beyond that. They're vicious, and 36 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: they are maniacal in their pursuit of power, and they 37 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: mean to take it rested from this president one way 38 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: or the other. And if they can't win at the polls, 39 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: which in my opinion they cannot, they mean and have 40 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: threatened already to do so, take to the streets and 41 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: to use as many tactics, Marxist tactics to create great 42 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: disruption and unrest in the country. Never seen the like 43 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: of it, not during the sixties nor in any other 44 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: period which I've lived. It's breath taking. You mentioned in 45 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: your book that COVID nineteen is the biggest threat ever 46 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: to the re election prospects of the president. I think 47 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: without that the Trump would be winning by a huge margin. 48 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: So what do you think autimately the effect of COVID 49 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: nineteen is going to be on the election. It's difficult 50 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: to say, our doubt, but I do believe that the 51 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: President will emerge from this with truth at his side, 52 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: because the reality is this president's decision making throughout this crisis, 53 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: and he was I think correct to call or the 54 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: national emergency. Remember there were cat calls and mocking of 55 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: the President for wanting to band travel from China from Europe, 56 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: for calling it a national emergency, and now the very 57 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: same people are criticizing him for delaying doing all of 58 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: the things that they oppose. But I believe that we're 59 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: going to see a VAX in such advanced stages. I 60 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: think we're going to see schools open up. It's unimaginable 61 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: to me that he has to persuade people to go 62 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: back to school, he has to persuade people to open 63 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: up their communities and their cities and towns, because it's 64 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: clear now the level of transmission, the mortality rate, and 65 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: it's not, thank god, as bad as we had feared. 66 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: The reality is that the closure represents his best we 67 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: can determine, far worse than staying shut down and shaking 68 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: in fear of COVID nineteen and not going about our 69 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: lives as best we can. Are you a little surprised 70 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: that Harris and Biden have been actively, almost campaigning against 71 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: the vaccine? You know, I am. You would expect in 72 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: these moments of crisis that they would at least put 73 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: on a good show of unity with the president. It 74 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: is a public health issue, is legitimately the worst crisis 75 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: we faced in decades. But they make no pretense. They 76 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: are opposing vaccines, they are opposing opening the economy, they 77 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: are opposing this president. They are even in opposition to 78 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: the science that they so often accuse others of ignoring. 79 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: It is a remarkable period. It is a straightforward lust 80 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: for power, a minimus strategy that does not take into 81 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: account either the well being or their fellow citizens or 82 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: the nation. It's just stunning what they have become in 83 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: what they intend, and it is clear that they intend 84 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: to wrest power from this president. Even with COVID and 85 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: even the other challenges. The real problem for the president 86 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: is not Harris and Biden. The real problem for the 87 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: president is the propaganda media, which is in my lifetime, 88 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: just transformed itself. When you first went into the business, 89 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: it was a totally different business. It was a totally 90 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: different business. It was a totally different craft. The tenets 91 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: of the craft when I became a cub reporter almost 92 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: a half century ago, were clear. There were just standards 93 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: to which you repaired every day in every way. As 94 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: a young reporter, I have reporters come into look for 95 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: a job and within fifteen minutes talking with them, they 96 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: have no understanding of what an independent objective press is 97 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: required to do. They don't understand the language, they don't 98 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: understand the values, and no one has even attempted to 99 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: educate those values at any point, whether it's from academia 100 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: or from a previous series of jobs in the business. 101 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: This is a wholesale propaganda operation being run with Corporate 102 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: America and the behemoth media companies that own these news outlets, 103 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: whether it is The Washington can Post, The New York Times, 104 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: NBC News, ABC, Disney, Comcast, AT and T. For crying 105 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: out loud, it's just remarkable the economic power that is 106 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: concentrated in the hands of a few, and further, the 107 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: concentration and awesome power politically that they have acquired by 108 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: being the proprietors of fake news, which they are obviously sponsoring, supporting, 109 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: and directing because they own it. I've been watching with 110 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: fascination the conversation about Disney and its relationship with China. 111 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Communications companies have so much tied up in China that 112 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: it's very expensive for them, very risky for them to 113 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: tell the truth about the dictatorship. So the first time 114 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm seeing it begin to become a public dialogue based 115 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: around the Disney film Mulan and the fact that they 116 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: actually had the audacity the film part of it in 117 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: Western China where the concentration camps are. You were probably 118 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: the first national newsperson to really understand the Chinese challenge. 119 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: You must have some deep sense of satisfaction that this 120 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: president has in many ways taken up your positions. Well, 121 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: he was also taking these positions early on himself. I 122 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: am so gratified that he is in the Oval office, 123 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: because without him there, we would still be talking about 124 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: two words. We don't often hear newt. You don't hear 125 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: people talking about free trade anymore, do you? In the 126 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: public arena? That is dead and buried because this president 127 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: has shown the destructive fiction that was pushed and perpetrated 128 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: by the US Chamber of Commerce, the biggest lobbying organization 129 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: in the country, US multinationals, through the Business round Table 130 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: and Wall Street firms, they absolutely have had a reversal 131 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: that they never imagined even possible, and that is that 132 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: free trade is now seen for what it is. Trade 133 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: deficits cut into GDP growth. You sacrifice growth, and we 134 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: have sacrificed over the course of fifty years through trade 135 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: deficits somewhere between five and ten trillion dollars, depending on 136 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: how you want to calculate it. But that's an extraordinary 137 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: price for something called free trade. And in that attached 138 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: the insistence of Wall Street and Corporate America to outsourcing 139 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: jobs and the loss of three million manufacturing jobs, millions 140 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: in service industries as well. It has been a horror 141 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: over the course of the last thirty years for working 142 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: men and women in this country and their families. Our 143 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: middle class was savage, and many people don't realize the 144 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: middle class wages stayed stagnant over the course of two 145 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: full decades. It took this president to reverse it. And 146 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: he had to take on the orthodoxy of academia, the 147 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: orthodoxy of Wall Street, the business establishment, the political establishments 148 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: of both parties. And that is why he is in 149 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: the fight of his life politically, because, as you know, 150 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the establishment never stands still when challenge, and they have 151 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: been absolutely upended and disrupted by this president, and the 152 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: ferocity of their response is obvious every day. I was 153 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: startled when the Chamber of Commerce decided that it would 154 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: endorse twenty three Democrats, even though their first vote is 155 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: going to be for Nancy Close, and I thought, this 156 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: is a complete sellout of the interest of most American businesses. 157 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: They're the building down there in Washington, and they exist 158 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: independent of the people that are supposed to be representing. 159 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: They have been independent of all. But I'm going to 160 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: say somewhere in the neighborhood of approximately the same population 161 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: of the Business Roundtable membership, about one hundred and thirty 162 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: five to one hundred and fifty US multinationals. They've held 163 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: thray over the Chamber, they have set the agenda for 164 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: which had lobbies every day with great power and economic influence. 165 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: To see them go with radical Democrats rather than stand 166 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: with high quality Republican candidates who are, unfortunately for them, 167 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: aligned with the President, it tells you the power that 168 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: he has right now at this moment in his presidency. 169 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: He's been proved right on issue after issue after issue, 170 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: and the Chamber. Tom Donighu, the cardinal of Corporate America's 171 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: lobbying enterprises, he can't believe what has hit him because 172 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: he has for so long been pulling so many strings 173 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: so effectively on Capitol Hill. He can't get anyone to listen. 174 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: It's got to be stunning to him. I was really 175 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: struck with from the very beginning of the Trump campaign. 176 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: And you do a good job in your book reminding 177 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: us that this was really Trump, long before he was 178 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: a candidate, that there's a continuity in his analysis that's 179 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. And I told him in several occasions he 180 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: was going to be the most disruptive president since Andrew Jackson, 181 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: And I said, look, would you disrupt these guys? They're 182 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: going to fight back. You know, they're not going to 183 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: roll over. They're going to be pretty pissed off at you. 184 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's surprised him how really deep and 185 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: ferocious has been. Those who know I'm like you understand 186 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: that he really was surprised. You would think that as clever, 187 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: as bright and just instinctive when it comes to combat, 188 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: that he would have understood that would happen. But he 189 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: truly was surprised. He was hurt. His feelings were hurt 190 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: that the reaction came as it did from some billionaire 191 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: friends from the establishment. You could see it in so 192 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 1: many ways that he was gutsick, often at the betrayal 193 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: as he saw it his establishment friends. They saw it 194 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: the other way, that he had betrayed them. He was 195 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: a traitor to his class, to be a populist president 196 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: who actually kept his promises. My god, horrifying the idea 197 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: that he's keeping promises. Those are supposed to be negotiable throughout, 198 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: particularly with the moneyed interest and the donor class braying 199 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: at him to move one direction or the other constantly. 200 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: He's a unique president. I think, an historic president. I 201 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: think he proved it in less than four years. He's 202 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: accomplished more. And you're the historian. I'd love to hear 203 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: your answer to this, because I've gone back through those 204 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: presidents I thought were remarkable, and I can't find anyone 205 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: save f Are and Abraham Lincoln, who accomplished as much 206 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: as this president in his first three and a half 207 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: years in office. It is remarkable to see what he 208 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: has done, for which, of course, he gets no credit 209 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: from either the loyal opposition or the left wing national media, 210 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: or certainly the radical extremists of the left, in some 211 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: cases members of his own party, the SOHO Rhinos. I'd 212 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: love to hear what you think about Well, I think 213 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,119 Speaker 1: that's pretty close to right. I think you have Jefferson, 214 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: who for all, did buy half the country, which I 215 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: always tell people that I'm prepared to be a Jeffersonian 216 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Conservative if that means I get to buy half the 217 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: United States, you know, and yet Andrew Jackson, who took 218 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: on the entire establishment over the US Bank. But with 219 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: those exceptions, neither of whom had the ferocity of hatred. 220 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Lincoln is the only president who 221 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: had the level of intense to have a good friend 222 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: who teaches at Princeton and Gettysburg. Helen Guelzo is an 223 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: expert on the Civil War bread and in December of 224 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: sixteen he wrote me and said, no president has had 225 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: the level of vitriol the Trump is getting since the 226 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: slave owning newspapers of South Carolina attacked Lincoln. And I 227 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: thought it was a very telling thing because in a 228 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: sense Trump is to the anti American left what Lincoln 229 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: was to the slave arms. He's the beginning of the 230 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: end of their world. And I think that they know that, 231 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of why you see the frenzy, 232 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: because he was a surprise in sixteen. Now he's a fact. 233 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: And I also think that you put your finger on something. 234 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: The elites in this country were very pro Chinese because 235 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: they were making so much money and they want to 236 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: feel good about themselves, so they don't like being told 237 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,479 Speaker 1: the China is a dictatorship. They don't like being reminded 238 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: about the million people in the concentration camps, or the 239 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: methodical destruction of the Tibetan Buddhist culture. And Trump comes 240 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: along and he violates all these norms, and he's not 241 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: only offending them psychologically, but he's threatening their pocketbooks to 242 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: a year scale, I mean billions of dollars, And that's 243 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: part of what I think motivates this kind of hostility. 244 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: And they are to a remarkable degree in New York, 245 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and Silicon Valley and not in the rest 246 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: of the country. So that's also why you get this 247 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: strange geographic pattern where you can go through much of 248 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Middle America and you see hundreds of Trump signs, and 249 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: then you visit La or New York or San Francisco, 250 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: and you just see endless hostility, not necessarily pro Biden, 251 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: but deeply anti Trump, deeply and within the American left. 252 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: It's a litmust asked in you're measured by the level 253 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: of mile that you can generate about the president of 254 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: the United States. And we see it in Manhattan, of course, 255 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: at Los Angeles. You mentioned Silicon Valley, the so called 256 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: big tech chiefs. It's an interesting language we have. We 257 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: refer to billionaires in Eastern European nations in particular as oligarchs. 258 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: Billionaires here are fabulously wealthy and brilliant people who have 259 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 1: only the nation's interest at heart. It's really a fiction 260 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: that I think this president has, if not destroyed, he 261 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: has significantly altered for the better for this country. We're 262 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: starting to look with scales removed from our eyes and 263 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: what we have wrought in terms of Silicon Valley and 264 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: the enormous economic power they possess, and electoral power as well. 265 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: This is going to be a job for Donald Trump 266 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: to do what he has promised he would do, and 267 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: people forget he promised to break up big tech, and 268 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: I think in the second term that we will see 269 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: him take that on in a very energized way. We 270 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: may actually see the Justice Department bringing a case against 271 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: Google before the election. I would sheer that. Yeah. I 272 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: think that the degree to which they now are sliding 273 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: into anti trust there to I always tell people we 274 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: have a deep visceral hostility to centralize power. And it 275 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: was true with the standard oil, it was true with 276 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: the railroads, it was true with IBM, and with AT 277 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: and T. And these guys have now slid into that 278 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: because they're abusing their power and therefore they're not behaving 279 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: as though they are holders of a public trust. They're 280 00:18:48,400 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: using that position to radically change these You've done so 281 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: much business coverage over the years. Were you surprised by 282 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: the speed with which the Trump economy replaced an accelerated 283 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: past the Biden Obama economy. Yes, that's a good way 284 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: to put it. I was surprised by the speed with 285 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: which it had occurred, which speaks to the pent up 286 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: energy that had been suppressed through regulation through the noxious, 287 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: anti business, anti capitalist leadership of the Obama Biden presidencies. 288 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: I didn't fully realize the degree to which they had 289 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: been successful, in that the president, within a year of 290 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: strong leadership, had awakened all of those animal spirits and 291 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: we started seeing great things happened as soon as he 292 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: put the two regulation into a fact. That is, for 293 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: every regulation created, too half to fall. My hope has 294 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: been and I went back and read Grant's book on 295 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: the Depression of nineteen twenty twenty one to get a 296 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: field for this, because that was a depression that was 297 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: so v shaped that it never entered the collective memory. 298 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: We went into it. It was very bad for about 299 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: eight or nine months. Then we came out of it, 300 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: and unlike the Great Depression of the thirties. It didn't 301 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: shape the twenties because it was over. And Trump has 302 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: talked repeatedly about a steep, v shaped recovery, and it 303 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: seems to me he may be getting it. What's your 304 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: take of how the economy is responded with nineteen twenty 305 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: coming after the pandemic of nineteen seventeen eighteen, there's a 306 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 1: terrific analog with what we were experiencing, and with the 307 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: China virus pandemic and the quick recovery, it has been 308 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: an elastic response. The economy has moved because of some 309 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: three trillion dollars in fiscal stimulus and probably somewhere in 310 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: the neighborhood of six trillion and monetary stimulus by the 311 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve. And we've seen remarkable strength in this economy 312 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: given what we went through in the second quarter, and 313 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: it's sustaining. I'm amused to see Reuters and Bloomberg and 314 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: a number of out less the New York Times included, 315 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: every number they look at, they find a way to 316 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: say it's slower, it's worse than it was, when indeed 317 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: you have to look with your lying eyes and see 318 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: what truth is. We are seeing a remarkable recovery in 319 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: the labor market, a remarkable recovery in the housing market. 320 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: We're seeing sales of automobiles for crying out loud that 321 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: are reaching pre pandemic levels in some cases. This is 322 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: truly a remarkable recovery. And if the President can persuade 323 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: the Big ten and others to play football and to 324 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: help the society, we are going to be in very 325 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: good shape, in my opinion, by the fourth quarter. I've 326 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: been working on a paper that compares the Biden and 327 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: the Trump worlds, pointing out that if you represent say 328 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Illinois, California, it's a great 329 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: test bed for everything Biden says he believes in and consistently, 330 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: whether it's violent crime or its deaths from COVID or 331 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: its unemployment numbers. The Biden world is a disaster. And 332 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: if you actually just took numbers for the Trump world 333 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: and excluded those, we would be roaring back right now. 334 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like the Democratic governors are doing everything they 335 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: can to put the brakes on until after the election 336 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 1: in the hopes that they won't help reelect Trump. I 337 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: know you're right. The Democratic governors are now operating as 338 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: a cabal. They're involved in college sports not being opened. 339 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: They've shut it down. Their wall is breaking. The cabal 340 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: is now being shown up by their peers. The SEC 341 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: has shown the way, and the Big ten has shown 342 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: themselves not to be quite as big or top as 343 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: we thought they would be. They've been something of buttercups 344 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: and daffodils, and now they've relented and they're coming back 345 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: to who we wanted them to be. The PAC twelve 346 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: has yet to follow, of course, but we're seeing city 347 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: after city now have to say, you know, we cannot 348 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: keep saying we're going to stay close to the election. 349 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: It's too obvious. In some of them are seeing their 350 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: schools open up despite them, because people are actually asserting 351 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: their power in their school boards. And some Americans are 352 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: actually realizing that they have greater control over their lives 353 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: through proximity to government, and the most proximate government is 354 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: their local government. And it's good to see people awaken 355 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: to that political reality and to try to take charge. 356 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: They keep trying to play games with national government, and 357 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: of course I guess all the headlines, but the fact 358 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: is we're seeing some positive things emerge from this, and 359 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: I think we'll see, certainly more than half the country opened, 360 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: and I think driving by certainly going into the election. 361 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: So it's another reason that I'm very hopeful about the outcome. So, Luis, 362 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: if Trump does win reelection, what kind of twenty twenty 363 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: one do you expect? Economically? He's been present in his 364 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: economic outlook to left, in particular radical Dems. They hate 365 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: the fact that he's been right. He was right to jobon, 366 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: to take on Jerome Powell, his Federal Reserve chairman, and 367 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: kick his tail all over the front pages of news 368 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: organizations across the country. And the clucking from the left 369 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: was so loud and so hilarious, because there is precedent, 370 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: as you know, for presidents to do precisely that, not 371 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: as colorfully, not as energetically as he did. But he 372 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: was right. Jerome Powell is too often the case with 373 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: FED chairman, newly appointed, decided to show that he really 374 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: knew what he was doing, and raised rates four times, 375 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: going in to a period of absolutely tranquil inflation, nothing 376 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: near the Fed's targets, and the President correctly kicked his 377 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: tail for it and said enough and finally intimidated the 378 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: board and the chairman into coming to their senses, but 379 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: it took this president to do it. He was right, 380 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: go through the issues, rebuilding the military, he was right. China, 381 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: he was right. Meanwhile, Wall Street is saying, no, you 382 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: can't use tariffs that will destroy the markets of the economy, 383 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: will collapse. It was the inverse, the economy posting better 384 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: than three percent growth and the number of quarters we 385 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: were watching manufacturing return to this country. The trade balance 386 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: issue is this president's guess what the international Monetary Fund, 387 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: the world banked, the United Nations, the central banks of 388 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: every European nation, should have been at the forefront agreeing 389 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: with this president that we have to balance our international 390 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: trade system to assure prosperity, and they didn't. Instead, because 391 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: of the politics of the moment and the president's rather 392 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: aggressive populism, they felt they would just stand back and 393 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: watch what happened. And what happened is this president showed 394 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: he truly is the leader of the free world, and 395 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: he was right on balance trade. He was right on 396 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: China and its predatory trade policies. They're merchantier list as 397 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: well as communist, and there's a combination for you historically, 398 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: but there it is. And by the way, the greatest 399 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: thieves and the history of the world. We built China 400 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: six hundred billion dollars a year in stolen intellectual property, 401 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: our deficits that ran up to a half trillion dollars 402 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: a year. My gosh, what does it take well to 403 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: fix these things? It takes Donald Trump, and he proved 404 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: he's the man, and he's fixed so much in such 405 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: short order. And with the second term, I believe that 406 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one will be a glorious repeat of what 407 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: happened when the president was elected in twenty sixteen, in 408 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: which he added over thirty trillion dollars. And I say 409 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: that advisedly. I truly believe he's responsible for what was 410 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: the addition of thirty trillion dollars to our equities markets 411 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: from the time that he was elected to December of 412 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. A remarkable, remarkable period, and I think we'll 413 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: see history repeat itself with this president assured a second term. 414 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: I just want to say, I think you have done 415 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: a real service with the Trump's century. You are somebody 416 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: who every single day is covering the news, sting close 417 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: to what's happening in business in the economy. You have 418 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: been a very sound voice for years for the kind 419 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: of breakout and new reform approaches that we finally are taking. 420 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: I am personally very grateful do you take the time 421 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: to join us? And I'm going to recommend everybody and 422 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: it will be on our show page, the Trump's Century, 423 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: because I think that it's a very important book, and 424 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: I am delighted that you would take the time to 425 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: be with us. It's been a highly enjoyable time and 426 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: I always enjoy talking with you, and I thank you 427 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: for it. I wish all the best, and now I'll 428 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: answer your questions. Bruce am from Texas asked, Hello, Nude, 429 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: I was wondering how you, as a historian, politician, and patriot, 430 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: feel about how our Supreme Court has so blatantly become 431 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: a political weapon rather than the upholder of the Constitution. 432 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: The fierceness with which both parties fight for nominations has 433 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: made it obvious that it is no longer used as 434 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: it was intended, and is rather now a side branch 435 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: of the legislature. Well, Bruce, I think if you go 436 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: back to American history you'll find this, starting with Jefferson's 437 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: great hostility to the courts around eighteen hundred that there's 438 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: a long tradition of the courts being controversial. Lincoln, for example, 439 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: deeply disagreed with the court on the dread Scott decision, 440 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: which said that slavery could exist in every state. So 441 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: I think Franklin Roosevelt was so frustrated with the courts 442 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: that he actually tried to pack them and was defeated 443 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: by his own party. So I think the courts have 444 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: always been inherently part of how America talks to itself 445 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: and how it gradually changes things. Thank you to my 446 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: guest Lou Dobbs. You can read an extrat of his 447 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: new book, The Trump's Century, How Our President Changed the 448 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: course of History Forever on our show page at Newtsworld 449 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: dot com. Newts World is produced by Yanguish three sixty 450 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Debbie Myers and our 451 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: producer is Garnsey Slump. The artwork for the show was 452 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: created by Steve Pennelly. 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