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Speaker 1: Jasmine from the Jasmine Brand is here, and oh Marian

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Speaker 1: is here. He is the gift and he's the curse.

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Speaker 1: You know that that is life. That is life. You

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Speaker 1: know in some people's life, you are the villain. Right.

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Speaker 1: Well here we go already starting now. But I okay,

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Speaker 1: so we did watch the whole documentary. Yeah, we watched

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Speaker 1: it on All Black. We did, by the way, So

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Speaker 1: congratulations on getting that done. Thank you really entertaining yea,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I was like, but I also understood why

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Speaker 1: Razb might have had some issues, okay, you know, because

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Speaker 1: it was there were things on there and look, it

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Speaker 1: and you know, this was just a peek into some

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Speaker 1: and you know why it was really important for me

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Speaker 1: to share that. It's because I've never shared my perspective,

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Speaker 1: people think because you have the Unbithered book, that's the

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Speaker 1: last time I tell you by that means that you

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Speaker 1: don't address anything. But that's not necessarily true. No. I

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Speaker 1: think it's important to show up in your journey and

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Speaker 1: everyone has their own story, and I think it's important

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Speaker 1: when you share your perspective if it helps someone else.

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Speaker 1: When you were all were going through the entire documentary

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Speaker 1: The really special thing about this docu is is that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't written. It played out itself. It's the truth,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's what to me

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Speaker 1: doesn't you know, lean to just you know, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the gift as so to speak. You know, there was

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Speaker 1: as a man, you do have to you know, deal

423
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: with certain things head on. But um, I'm analytical, so

424
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm in a server and I realized how quickly things

425
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: can get to a certain point. So I always make

426
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: the best move based off of that, you know what

427
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, Because man, you know we're physical too,

428
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so, you know a lot

429
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: of the times when we feel, you know, certain ways,

430
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, we want to get physical, you know what

431
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, so you know I'm I would say,

432
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm just Um, I'm smart and calculated, you know what

433
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: I mean. And you're happier. I saw you charging that

434
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: girl to meet you. Which one many times have you

435
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: done that? The nerve of you? Oh my goodness, that

436
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: was why that was. So that was on Doctor Phil.

437
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: This woman was catfish. She thought she was talking to you.

438
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: She think they were sending money. Yeah, we were. We

439
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: were in a relationship, in a relationship. Yes, where were

440
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: you when you found this out? Like what you know?

441
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 1: Who sent this to you? How did you even know

442
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: what was going on? Yeah? So you know, um, shout

443
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: out to the originals, my fans, you know what I mean. Um,

444
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: they pinned us and let us know that this young

445
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: lady was going on Doctor Phil and her family was

446
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: talking to her, and you know, um, they asked me

447
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: if I wanted to send a message, and I was like, yeah,

448
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: let me let her know that whoever she's speaking to,

449
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 1: because um, you know, so you know, every now and

450
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 1: then I'll like check out my DMS and a lot

451
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: of people are like, yo, is this you? And I'm

452
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: just like, oh, no, I'm not. You know, I'm not

453
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: a ghost online. You know. If you're talking to me,

454
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: you're talking to a blue check. Okay, you know what

455
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, people gotta pay for those checks. Oh yeah,

456
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: that's true on Twitter, though not not on Instagram. I

457
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: think they're doing that there. Yeah, but go ahead and

458
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: say you not a ghost? Yeah, you know, And I

459
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: think that people needed to be aware that, like, yo,

460
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: if you online, like, don't be gullible. You know what

461
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if somebody's calling you, because because she

462
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: said that that the fake O Marion was actually calling

463
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: her but not showing myself on the video, I'm like,

464
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: come on you yeah. So it was like, you know,

465
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: she would FaceTime and then we'd be like, oh, I'm busy,

466
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: I gonna hit your right back, and I'm like yo.

467
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: So it was really unfortunate. And honestly, my my fans

468
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: are like the best, you know, I mean, so I

469
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: don't never want them to be getting manipulated, you know,

470
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: um on some fake O Marion vibes like man, we

471
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: don't won't do that. Have you ever been catfished? Um,

472
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: back way way back in the day when this was

473
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: like early Instagram. Yeah, I got him catfished. I thought

474
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: it was acute, but it wasn't. Did you meet up? No,

475
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: I didn't meet up. One of my homies did do

476
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: that and it was not the girl, And I was like, whoa,

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: my friends got to be most careful. Yeah, and that's

478
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: a crazy place. It's a wild place. And you have

479
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: a new project drop in mayfifth. Is that's the other date? Um? Yes,

480
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: that's the date Full Circle, Um, Big Vibes. I would

481
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: love if you to play Big Vibes. We just dropped, um,

482
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: the first installment to that album, Full Circle. Um. Yeah,

483
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: it's called Big Vibe. So you're in new music coming.

484
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: We got a lot, a lot of good things and

485
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: we always living on Marian challenge. Yeah, we're gonna have

486
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: a challenge with this with Big Vibes. Come on. Yeah,

487
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: it's a big vibe. All you gotta do is show

488
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: what's a big vibe to. You know, working is a

489
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: big vibe because at the end of the day, you

490
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: get a check. You know what I'm saying, Um, you

491
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Smiling is a big vibe because

492
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: you might get a smile back. You know, life is

493
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: life is a big vibe, you know what I mean.

494
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: But it's all about your perspective, you know. Is this

495
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: album done? Yeah, finish album is done in the canon.

496
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: This is Sonic Book one, and then I'll release a

497
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: Sonic Book two um this year as well. So y'all

498
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: gonna be getting a lot of you know, slaps from

499
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Mariyah full circle because it's an oh, you know, my

500
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: whole experience. You know, it's a full circle moment. You know,

501
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: the documentary is a full circle moment for me. You know,

502
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: all of the people that I've worked with, you know

503
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: that are coming back into my space. You know, life

504
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: is funny like that, you know what I mean. I

505
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: did not want to do, you know, the Millennium tour,

506
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: but it was one of the best things that I've

507
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: ever could have done, you know, because I was able

508
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: to go back to you know, young on Marian. I

509
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: was able to go back to see like, oh this

510
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: is what this was that feeling, you know, and a

511
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: lot of artists don't get that opportunity, and it ended

512
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: up being EO Marian tour really and you know what

513
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: that that was such a That was such a blessing.

514
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: That was such a blessing because like, for real, for real,

515
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: my team had to like really sit me down and

516
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: be like, yo, oh, you're singing all these songs these

517
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: records as yours because of my experience would be two k.

518
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I didn't want to deal with that,

519
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I needed to. I

520
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: needed to be reminded of all the hard work that

521
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: I did, everything you know that I put in because

522
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand it's about artists, but

523
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: you know, all of our experience is not great, you

524
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So what you share with this

525
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: particular album or this particular song, you know, might have

526
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: been paying for us and a way to release, you know,

527
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: our creativity, to get ourselves on a new level, you

528
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But um, even with all of

529
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: the adverse experiences, it was it was a It was

530
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: a major lesson and it was a lot of information

531
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: that I needed to receive and pat myself on the

532
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: back for all my hard work with going on that tour,

533
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that I did it. Break it

534
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: down for me, how did that happen? Though? Because we

535
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: saw in the documentary it was B two K and

536
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: then Rasby ended up getting kicked off the tour and

537
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: we saw that happen. But then how did it end

538
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: up just being you? Um? Well, you know, we kept

539
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: the Millennium Tour brand very much so like the Scream

540
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: Tour brand alive. You know, after we transition from UM

541
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: the first Millennium Tour that was with the group and

542
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: obviously we weren't moving on, you know, together as a group,

543
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: you know, UM, it became me and friends. So we

544
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: kept that business going m after the last Millennium Tour

545
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: though UM I wasn't on the last Millennium Tour, so yeah,

546
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: we transitioned into another tour series. But yeah, we kept

547
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: it going because you know, history has shown us, you

548
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, has shown me and those fans

549
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: are all those two thousand you know UM classics, that

550
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: there's an actual market for it clearly, Yeah, very clearly. Yeah,

551
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: so we had to keep that going. We have to

552
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: keep that And are you in Bawa still tight? I

553
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: remember when y'all was best friends. I was telling Jasmine

554
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: one day, I was where was that I was staying

555
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: at a hotel? I think I was with Melissa Ford.

556
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: We were going somewhere to do a booking and you

557
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: guys were in the same hotel, like on a different floor,

558
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: running around. Yeah, were so young. Yeah, you know what

559
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just remember both of you running around

560
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: the hotel like all crazy in the hallways and um.

561
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: And then we saw him on the documentary too, and

562
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: I was like, that's right, that's what sparked it for me.

563
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: I was like, that's right. They did used to be

564
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: like best friends. What's your relationship now? Oh? We good? Good? Yeah, everybody,

565
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: everybody you know that was a part of this journey.

566
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm good with. I have no problems with. I would never,

567
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, spend my energy on feeling any type of

568
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: way about anybody, because that's not how why, you know,

569
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: move my energy. I don't hold no ill will towards anyone,

570
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: So you know, um, it's all good. Y'all. Never had

571
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: no problems though, Ray you didn't have any. Yeah, that's

572
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It just sparked it for me. I

573
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: was like, I remember, they was like, would you ever

574
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: be open to Obviously they don't yet. Your members don't

575
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: group members don't have your number anymore. But would you

576
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: ever would you ever be open to you know, doing

577
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: a project or revisiting I know you get asked it

578
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, this is this is a question

579
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: for the fans. Yeah, I mean I think anything is possible.

580
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm obviously focusing on myself right now, you

581
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I would say anything is possible.

582
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, Okay, that's fair enough.

583
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: Anything is possible. And then this is off topic, but

584
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: on topic, M in terms of R and B male singers,

585
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: who would you put on your Mount Rushmore? And you

586
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: can't include yourself? Okay? Um? Well a lot of a

587
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: lot of my Mount rush Morris from the past, I'm saying, Um,

588
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: Donnie Hath the wigh okay, um. And we're talking vocals

589
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: right what we're talking okay? Um, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Um,

590
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: Marvin Gaye. And who would be number five? Four? I'm

591
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: gonna give you one more okay, yep in five is

592
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna be Um Frankie Beverly. So all real socials that

593
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: sing from the gut, you know. Um, yeah, I think

594
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: about Frankie Beverly. Amazing how they go on tour like now,

595
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: could you see yourself doing that like when you get older,

596
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: just always on the road. Yes, I mean, you know,

597
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: it is one of my intentions to be able to

598
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: express joy and perform for the rest of my life,

599
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I definitely am not

600
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: gonna you know, mark my words, You're not gonna see

601
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: me in twenty years and I could barely walk that

602
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna still gonna be doing the split. Well I

603
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: might not be split might, but you know, I'm definitely

604
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, keep my mobility and you know, um,

605
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: that's one thing that I love about being a musician

606
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: is it's like it's really like there there is no bar,

607
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: like you could continue to grow. You know, there's so

608
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: many different aspects of entertainment. Um, you know, especially that

609
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I do, you know what I mean. So I'm gonna

610
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: keep growing. I know TikTok has to be really big

611
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: for you to. Um, I haven't went like super ham

612
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: on TikTok, but yeah, you know, TikTok is is a

613
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: big dance community. So exactly we're gonna start going ham

614
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: on TikTok real soon. Yeah. But Marian, thank you so

615
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: much for coming way up with Angela year. You know,

616
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: I always have you check in from time to time

617
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: all my different platforms. Yes, you know, this one was

618
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: different than the last one you were on. Yeah yeah,

619
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: we were talking. We were talking freaking on the other

620
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. But again, make sure you guys botch. We

621
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: really thoroughly enjoyed the docuseries, you know, so Omega, the

622
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: Gift and the Curse, and then of course you know,

623
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm Bothered is out and the new project is coming

624
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: out full circle mayfifth, and right now, big vibes, Big vibes,

625
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: way up with Angela. Thank you a, Mariana