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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're back

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Speaker 1: from WNBA All Star Weekend and Dragon ass like the

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Speaker 1: stud Buds after a seventy two hour live stream, somebody

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Speaker 1: get the ivs. It's Monday, July twenty first, and on

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Speaker 1: today's show, I'll be joined by producer Meich to debrief

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Speaker 1: on this weekend's All Star festivities, from the game to

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Speaker 1: the parties and the live shows to the live streams,

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Speaker 1: the latest on the negotiations between WNBA players and the league,

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Speaker 1: and seeing slices in the wild, plus Hooper soupod, signs

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Speaker 1: of another trend spin and a real life reboot takes shape.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming out right after this Welcome Back Slices.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today. Let's start with

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Speaker 1: the WNBA and this weekend's All Star festivities in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: Nafisa Collier scored an All Star record thirty six points

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Speaker 1: one fifty one one in the All Star Game Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: Skyler Diggins, who competing with Team Collier, put up the

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Speaker 1: the win. Neka Ogumkay, another member of Team Collier, also

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Speaker 2: A head of the All Star.

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Speaker 1: Game, individual pride, along with some cash money, was on

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Speaker 1: the line with the three Point Contest and Skills Challenge

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Speaker 1: on Friday night the New York Liberties. Natasha Cloud won

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Speaker 1: the Skills Challenge, recording the fastest time in both rounds,

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Speaker 1: After the win, she embraced girlfriend and teammate Isabel Harrison

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Speaker 1: and told ESPN's Holly Row she'd be using the money

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Speaker 1: she won for a down payment on a house. Cloud said, quote,

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Speaker 1: Plenty to say about that moment later in the show.

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Speaker 1: It was a great night for the Liberty overall, as

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Speaker 1: Cloud's performance was followed by teammate Sabrini and Escu winning

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Speaker 1: her second WNBA three Point Contest, scoring thirty of the

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Speaker 1: possible forty points. Both Cloud and Yenescu are getting paid

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Speaker 1: winners a check for just two thousand, five hundred and

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Speaker 1: most recent collective bargaining agreement. The majority of the winnings

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Speaker 1: instead came from insurance company AFLAC, which teamed up with

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Speaker 1: the Players Association for a second straight year, paying Yenescu

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Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars for her three point win and Cloud

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Speaker 1: that WNBA players take home the same payout that MNBA

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Speaker 1: Shout out to AFLAC for that and for bringing the

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Speaker 1: snap a pick best celebsiting all weekend for me. There's

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Speaker 1: another very cool moment that happened Friday night in the

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Speaker 1: press are after the competitions, as Yunescu announced that she'd

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Speaker 1: Said Yenescu quote, I told Sonya that I would give

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Speaker 2: Being the only rookie.

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Speaker 1: She was nervous, and I was nervous for her. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Yanescu is planning to give the rest of her prize

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Speaker 1: undervalue players through low salaries and prize money. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: with the Players Association and WNBA currently negotiating a new

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement, more than forty players attended a meeting

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Speaker 1: Without resolution, leading the Players Association to issue the following statement, quote,

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Speaker 1: end quote. WNBA Commissioner kat The Engelbert meanwhile called the

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Speaker 1: During warmups ahead of Saturday Night's All Star Game, players

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Speaker 1: the sold out crowd of sixteen thousand fans chanted pay Them,

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Speaker 1: Pay Them over and over again. We'll chat about that

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Speaker 1: by producer Miish to recap the whole weekend some more.

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Speaker 1: Hoopstews ucon star Azy Fudd is launching her own podcast

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Speaker 1: right here on the Iheartwomen's Sports Network. The show, called

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Speaker 1: fud Around and find Out, officially launches on August seventh.

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Speaker 1: I actually interviewed Asy while I was out in India

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Speaker 1: get to hear a lot more about her new podcast

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Speaker 1: and whether her Husky alum girlfriend Paige Becker's will be

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Speaker 1: you think, I interviewed just one superstar Hooper with a

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Speaker 1: new podcast this weekend, Think Again. I also hosted a

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Speaker 1: one and only Candice Parker, in which we talked about

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Speaker 1: July thirtieth, and just like with Azy, you'll get to

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Speaker 1: a big thanks to Wise for giving every attendee of

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Speaker 1: Family and hosting a book signing during the symposium. It

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Speaker 2: The league is.

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Speaker 1: Still on a summer break through the end of the month,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean the players aren't training. And that

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Speaker 1: list of players training now includes Trinity Rodman, who practiced

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Speaker 1: both the Spirit and the US national team during the

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Speaker 1: last year. A Spirit spokesperson told the ESPNS Jeff Casoof quote,

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Speaker 1: He has put in a tremendous amount of work to

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Speaker 1: No word yet on when Rodman will be back on

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Speaker 1: trend spin more NWSL News Got Them FC's Jess Carter,

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Speaker 1: who's been competing with England during the ongoing European Championships,

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Speaker 1: As a results of this, I will be taking a

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Speaker 1: In response, the England Lionesses said that the team would

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Speaker 1: tackle racism end quote. Back in the US, the NWSL

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Speaker 1: Jess is not only a world class football player, she

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Speaker 1: against fellow American Peyton Stearns at ten am Eastern. At

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Speaker 1: Many of you might remember Monet Davis, who in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: League next year, Davis is planning to try out. Davis

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Speaker 1: Me and Mish dish on everything that went down in

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Speaker 2: Welcome back slices.

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Speaker 1: I am now joined by producer Mish, who was also

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Speaker 1: in Indie for All Star.

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Speaker 3: Hey Mesh, what's up Sarah Spain?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's nice to see you again, but it was

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Speaker 3: It's just watching them be human beings, be real people,

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Speaker 3: is some of them.

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00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 5: Messaging to do that normally you just never saw it.

440
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 2: That's true.

441
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: That's true.

442
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 3: Fee seven shoot around.

443
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 5: There was no shoot around today. I brought team's canceled.

444
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 3: I heard, I heard, I hear I got picking up.

445
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: So as captains, what type of messaging are you guys

446
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 4: sending to your players about balance and just making sure

447
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 4: you are still wanting to get the win.

448
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I told my teams have as much fun

449
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 5: as possible at practice. We just shot a little bit

450
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 5: and then we shout at half course shot and we

451
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 5: headed out. But I mean, like that's all start weekend,

452
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 5: like we joke about winning, but at the end of

453
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 5: the day, like it's it's not that serious. It's been

454
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 5: cool just to see, you know, everything that's been going

455
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 5: on and how much everybody's enjoying it.

456
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: I mean, exactly the same.

457
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: I wasn't telling them anything about preparing for the game.

458
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 5: We were preparing to be on sub buds.

459
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: Now listen, we're going to talk about the stud buds

460
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: in a minute, just MVPs of the weekend, so we'll

461
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: get back to the stud buds. But I did like

462
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: to hear them just kind of acknowledging that this was

463
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: less about the basketball. It was about basketball, but also

464
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: just about the event and having fun and coming together.

465
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: Which was really cool. It was also about some work stuff.

466
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: Some of us had to work in between the partying

467
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: and the fun and the games, So tell us about

468
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: what you were up to.

469
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: So I was there with they can't retire from this

470
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 3: collective storytelling collective that I'm a part of, and we

471
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 3: host the podcast called Sideline Stories. So the big marquee

472
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: event for us this weekend, we held a live podcast

473
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: with three ladies from the WBL, the Women's Professional Basketball League,

474
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,719
Speaker 3: the first ever women's pro league in the United States.

475
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: We talked to shar mccordter, Liz mcquitter, and Adrian Newell.

476
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 3: Thank you to the three of them for joining us,

477
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: and had a really robust discussion about the history of

478
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: that league and how you know we're at WNBA All

479
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 3: Star and this is a prime example of a time

480
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: that would be great for the league to use to

481
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: educate fans on the leagues that have come before, the pioneers,

482
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 3: the stars that have come before. You know, Muffat McGrath

483
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 3: played in the WBL. We had machine Gun, Molly Bolan

484
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: who was Clark before Caitlin Clark was out of Moravier, Iowa.

485
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: Those are names that people don't know, you know what

486
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And I feel like having the space to

487
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: talk to them and let them share their stories was

488
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: extreme special to me into our entire group and frankly

489
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: to them as well, and I got to have some

490
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: really emotional conversations with them off mic as well. That

491
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: we stayed at the same hotel, which was serendipitous, so

492
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 3: got to spend more time with them. But that was

493
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: definitely a big highlight. Shout out to all of the

494
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: people who came to that. Shout out to the Tunnel

495
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: Fits Pod. Those folks came through, My Rising Media Stars family,

496
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: rolled through, Latna Robinson of course, the head Honchow came

497
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: through and a few of the other members of the group,

498
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 3: and then WNBA Live. That was a big portion of

499
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: what I did this weekend. We were at the Round

500
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: twenty one booth doing some content capture, so we got

501
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 3: to capture some stuff with Paige Becker's, with Rakia Jackson,

502
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: with Aleah Boston, all the different star players who came

503
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: through to the booth and talk to a lot of

504
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: fans and a lot of folks who are in spheres

505
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: of influence around in and around the game as well.

506
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 3: So all in all, it was it was exhausting. You know,

507
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: it was full days, as I imagine you're about to

508
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: tell us about your full days as well. But in

509
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: the end, you know, it's always beautiful to be in

510
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 3: community with the people who love this game in this

511
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: league as much as I do, and I already can't

512
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: wait for next year.

513
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. My full day was really Friday.

514
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: I got to hang more or at tend things with

515
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: that having to be on stage performing on Thursday and Saturday,

516
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: But Friday, I actually started my day by going.

517
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 2: To a brunch.

518
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: It was the WNBPA and the National Women's Law Center

519
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: hosting an event at the WNBPA lounge talking about it's

520
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: called Don't Bench Our History, and it was about the

521
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: combined sort of feeling of trying to erase the history

522
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: of black people, both as players and as people who

523
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: founded this league and just in general in society, and

524
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: how do we address and work through what's going on

525
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: at the very highest levels in this country right now,

526
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: and then what's going on with players in this league.

527
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: And the CBA was Terry Carmichael Jackson, Temmy fag Benley,

528
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: a woman called Fatima from the National Women's Law Center,

529
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: and another woman who moderated. Also got to hear Temmy

530
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: talk about the movie she's going to be in coming

531
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: up with Viola Davis that you are so excited about.

532
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: I know me because you read the Book of Blood

533
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: and Bone.

534
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: Is that the name.

535
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: Children of Childreod and both children of Blood and Bone.

536
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: It was very cool, yes, to hear talk about that,

537
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: and honestly, very heartfelt conversation about the weight of everything

538
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: on the players in trying to balance and hold the

539
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: things that they represent and all of the things they

540
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: want to fight for while playing. And you know, one

541
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: thing that I heard that really stood out to me

542
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: was Terry talking about how much it matters to the

543
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: players to be informed and to get things right, and

544
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: how much the league leans on the National Women's Law

545
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Center to ask about topics that might come up that

546
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: the players want to speak on eloquently, and how they

547
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: connect the players or give the players resources from the

548
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: National Women's Law Center to make sure that they're informed

549
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: and credible voices on this. And I just think people

550
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: don't really respect how much the w cares about that

551
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: and takes that responsibility and accountability of being voices. There

552
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: are so many athletes who will spat off about shit

553
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: without knowing anything about it or doing the work, and

554
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: in this case, I just really respected what they talked

555
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: about when it came to that. After that was when

556
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: my work started interviewing Candace Parker at the Wiser Symposium,

557
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: which was a great time. I loved getting to hang

558
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: out with her mom and her daughter, Layla and her

559
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: crew beforehand and just shoot the shit. She wants to

560
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: come on the show, so we'll see. I want to

561
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: run this interview, but maybe we'll have her back when

562
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: she's coming into Chicago.

563
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: For her jersey retirement. You could never have too much

564
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Candace and me.

565
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: She're going to be fired out because I did talk

566
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: about you in the interview and how you did I did.

567
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: I talked about how much it meant to you to

568
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: see the baby haired assassin who was this face of

569
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: straight mom WNBA players come out in her truth and

570
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: you know, have a wife and kiddos and make it

571
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: clear that you can be any and all things in

572
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: this league.

573
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 2: And so you loved so.

574
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: That was great, And then later on in that day

575
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: did my interview with Azy Fudd announcing her new podcast,

576
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: Fought Around and find Out, which was great. Y'all are

577
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: going to love to hear from her, particularly, I think

578
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: the ways it feels like she's coming into her own

579
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: as an adult. She is so clearly the product of

580
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: her parents. She owes so much to two basketball playing

581
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: coaching parents, but also you can feel that this is

582
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: a really monumental time for her to find out who

583
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: she is independent of her family and to become her

584
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: own person, whether that's in her relationship with Page and

585
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: how they choose to discuss about it publicly, the choices

586
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: she makes around sponsors and business deals everything else. She

587
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: made a crack about missing her workout in the morning

588
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: because she partied too hard and how she's gonna make

589
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: up for it, but like, you know, finding that balance

590
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: of just being a twenty something kid and being someone

591
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: who has the weight of all these things on her shoulders.

592
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: So you guys are going to like that interview too.

593
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: So those are my big work. I also went to

594
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: the first annual Unstoppable Summit put on by the w

595
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: NBA and Deloitte, and that was really interesting. It was

596
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: interesting to hear from Kathy Engelbert in conversation with the

597
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: woman who runs the USOPC, and Val Ackerman, who runs

598
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: the Big East Conference, and how they're all battling different things,

599
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: whether that's trying to elevate and serve Olympic and Paralympic athletes,

600
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: college athletes, or professional athletes, and how the pipeline for

601
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: girls and women in sports feeds all of those things,

602
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: and how there's an intersection and the symbiotic relationship between

603
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: all of them.

604
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: I really love that.

605
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: Then we had some breakout sessions about how to use

606
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: data to talk about fans and identify them, and then

607
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: got to hear from down Stay and Common in conversation

608
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: with Hannah Storm, and I of course love Common Chicago

609
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: guy and Dawn in her element, absolutely no filter. Just

610
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: hearing her talk is always a great time. And afterwards

611
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I went up to introduce myself to Common and he

612
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: was like Sarah Spain, yo, I watch you all the

613
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: time you're Chicago and out like.

614
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

615
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: And then at the game I actually got to meet

616
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Jay hudd to Jennifer Hudson, so it was like the

617
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Chicago connection everywhere, which I loved, but it's.

618
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: Always it's so weird to me.

619
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people watch ESPN, but it's

620
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: crazy to me when it's like someone I assume has

621
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: no clue who I am. Like, I remember m NBA

622
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: All Star a couple of years ago. I said a

623
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: party with ghost Face from Wu Tang and my friend

624
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: is obsessed with Wu Tang and was like, we have

625
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: to go up and meet him, and she's like, I'm scared.

626
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: I'm my god, let's just go introduce herself.

627
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, Sarah Spine the commission, like even

628
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: going by my nickname and now ghost Face that I

629
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: are like, butts like he hooks me up at their

630
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: concerts every text like and it was just like wild

631
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: to me when that stuff happens. But it was really

632
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: really fun and that summit was interesting, and I think

633
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: they're going to start having it every year, going to

634
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: be a really cool way to keep tabs on the

635
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: really high level stuff the league is doing to understand

636
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: its fan base adjust and grow as you know, everything grows.

637
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: So that was really cool.

638
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: But that was really like the serious stuff I did,

639
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: and so allowed Saturday after the summit to be about

640
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: hanging with friends, going went to a gatorade the hour,

641
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: and then going to the game and completely missing the

642
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: party Saturday night because I worked until twelve fifteen after

643
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: the game ended, and then looked and I go, oh,

644
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen. Oh yeah, I'm not putting on ad

645
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: dress and making it out to eddie parties starting at

646
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: twelve thirty.

647
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm too old for.

648
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: That, which is a bummer because Diplow and a bunch

649
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: of other people were at one of the ones I

650
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: was going to go to.

651
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: But that does bring us.

652
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: To the party's Meiche done it though, Let's start with

653
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: our own deep Blue Slash iHeart Slash Jam Session, Slash

654
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Ensemble slash Say last party.

655
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: It was the most co sponsored party of.

656
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: The weekend in the history of the world.

657
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: And you and I really botched this one, Meche. We really,

658
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: we didn't do this right. We went early, right after

659
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: the skills competition, and it was slow. Because this is

660
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: a crowd that like goes and eats dinner at ten

661
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: thirty and rolls up at midnight and party is still four.

662
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: That's not exactly who we Aremiche.

663
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: No, you because.

664
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: You're an indoor cat and me because I'm old and

665
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: so we got there early.

666
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: It was fun.

667
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: We got to hang out with Christina and Tarika and

668
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of other folks from the iHeart Women's Sports Network.

669
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: We got to chat it up with Asy and other

670
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: folks there. But after Flage performed and shut it down.

671
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: By the way, I saw you going back and forth

672
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: with her, which was so fun, and you, guys, I think, yeah, we.

673
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: Did the same thing last year, but she was a performer. Man,

674
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you.

675
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: It was a really good time.

676
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: But after that, I'm like, I guess this is probably

677
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna slow down. So I'm gonna head out and go

678
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: to super Bird and Meghan Rappino's party. You're like, okay, cool,

679
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna head to Kids Parker's party. And the next

680
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: morning I'm on the Socials and I'm like, oh no,

681
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: that party got really good. It was like angel Rees dance,

682
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I got tables and the stud Bud's going off and

683
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: just we did it wrong.

684
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paige Becker's scream singing love by Kisha Cole, Like,

685
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: there was so much going on, and the worst part

686
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: for me is I left the iHeart party, went to

687
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: CP's party, ran into you know, a lot of folks.

688
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: So that was wonderful. But then made my way back

689
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: to the iHeart party and guess what, it was still

690
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: not the time that the Shenanigans popped in too early.

691
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: It was still too early, y'all. When I went back,

692
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: it was easily one forty in the morning. One thirty

693
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: in the morning. I needed to go to sleep because

694
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: there was a whole other day to do things on Saturday,

695
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: and so I was so sure that the party was

696
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: going to end. Clearly it did not.

697
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: That's how we know these players are a different time.

698
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: That's how we know these players are different, by the way,

699
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: because they were playing in a game the next day. Yeah, yeah,

700
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: we weren't doing it and we still couldn't make it.

701
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how in the world they did it,

702
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: but it was. It was a wonderful time. Ran into

703
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: so many people. You mentioned Candice Parker. When I went

704
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: to her party, I actually ran into her mom, and

705
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: so I got to say, like, thank you for bringing

706
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: her into the world.

707
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: Basically, her mom's so great, she's the sweetest. She said.

708
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: I need to go by Sarah raw because everybody should

709
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: be because I'm so good at what I do, Like

710
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: did she really it.

711
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: Was so cute.

712
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: I cannot believe that is that is the best. But yeah,

713
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean everybody y'all can imagine we're at these parties.

714
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: Ran into the China again, Drea Carter, Amadi Brooks and

715
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Sid Colson, so that duo. I love them so much,

716
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: TP yep TP, Alicia j Ri Kayala Grady who we

717
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: just had on last week, Ros Golden Woude, Adam Johnson,

718
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: just these all these different people were outside having a

719
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: great time.

720
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: Jordan Robbins and I ran into Alexa Philip, who coached

721
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Jackie Aaron Foley.

722
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: Like so many of the guests of the show.

723
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Friends of the Show, I got to chop it up

724
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: with Marina Maybury and Sanaia Rivers, who I had no

725
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: idea that Hard Launch was dropping. And people are still like,

726
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: we can't help they're messing with us.

727
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 3: I still can't really tell.

728
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: If you don't know a photo shoot that they took

729
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: in the official WNBA booth that is on the WNBA Instagram,

730
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: that is a hard Launch to me. Then you hear

731
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: them on the Live with the stud Buds talking about

732
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: how Courtney's telling Sinaia Rivers like, come with me to

733
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: this party, I have to see where the bad bitches are.

734
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: And then Marina's like, she's already with a bad bitch, like,

735
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: don't be trying to take my lady to another party

736
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: to meet other ladies. And then they were everywhere together

737
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: all weekend. I was literally on the street with them,

738
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: and I had already talked to Marina about insulting people's

739
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: dogs on our show, and we had laughed and gone

740
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: separate ways and ended up in the same place leaving

741
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: on the street, and I turned to go, oh, by

742
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: the way, I forgot to mention congrats on the hard launch,

743
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: and they both were.

744
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: Like, thanks, Wow, I must have missed that part of

745
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: the stream you just mentioned. And that's I mean, that's confirmation, man,

746
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: that's you know what, good for them, good for the

747
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: good for them because the content has been hilarious since

748
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: and I I got into the league. I can't even

749
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: lie to you.

750
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: Uh wow, wow wow wow.

751
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 3: Look at you breaking some news.

752
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: Kind We have to take a quick break. We'll be

753
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: right back.

754
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of poops, engage shit stud buds were everywhere. They

755
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: have changed the game, perhaps forever, assuming anyone else has

756
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: that kind of energy and is fine with zero filter none, zero, sleep,

757
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: zero tact zero anything. The stud buds Natisha Heideman and

758
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: Courtney Williams Bright pink hair.

759
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: Mask, black queer.

760
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: It's the little nuggets.

761
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: They're so small, they're like the two little small just

762
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: like powerhouses who are hilarious, shameless. And they did a

763
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: essentially live stream for the entire weekend, seventy.

764
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: Two hours, seventy two hours straight.

765
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: From red carpets to parties, to games, to courtside to

766
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: Glow's performance. You could see it all there, and it

767
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: was so fun to watch the way they changed everyone

768
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: they came in contact with, the ones who didn't know

769
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: of them became joyful. Like I said, Kathy Engelbert was

770
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: dancing to Knuck if You Buck, Okay.

771
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: The funniest I've ever seen, because she was doing the

772
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 3: white girl abouts too.

773
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: Of course that's all she knows, that's all I know.

774
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: And just it was just really fun how much they

775
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: brought the content of the weekend to everybody else. When

776
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: you hear when you listen to a podcast like this,

777
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: if you didn't go, you're excited to get some of

778
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes, but you feel like a little

779
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: foam mo of like I don't really know what it's

780
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: like to be there. The stud buds took you about

781
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: as close as you could get.

782
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: They gave you everything. They got closer with the Twitter

783
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: stream than I did the whole weekend. Literally literally we

784
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: missed everything and they caught everything, and everybody who watched

785
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: caught everything. Like they gave us Paisy Page and asy

786
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: Fudd content, they gave us Kathy, they gave us Diplo. Yeah,

787
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: how did they end up in the booth with Diplo

788
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: telling him how to do his job?

789
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: That was the party I was supposed to be at,

790
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: and it's Diplo presents, someone I've never heard of. I'm like, oh,

791
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there. They're just using his name.

792
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: And then I saw the clips and again I was like,

793
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: damn yeah, almost in my room I could have been

794
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: at Diplo. But that was the best part was Court

795
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: Williams going up to Diplo, one of the most famous

796
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: DJs in the world, in the middle of his set,

797
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: and being like, Hey, can you stop playing EDM and

798
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: play some.

799
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: Other music for me? And he's like, no, I'm Diplo,

800
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: this is what I do. They were just it was.

801
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: Just so fun and to my point from Friday to

802
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: have centered and bringing so much joy black queer women

803
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: in a league that has so much of that. And

804
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: it's not to say it's at the expense of anything else.

805
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: It's just that that so often gets buried in favor

806
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: of other things, and for it to be centered and

807
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: for again Kathy Engelbert to be embracing in part of

808
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: it in multiple streams. She was there in one party,

809
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: she was there in another party. You know, I think

810
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I think she probably know, Oh, she's got to do

811
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: some of that right now. Is she's trying to make

812
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: nice with the players for CBA negotiations. I gotta look

813
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: like someone who knows what's going on.

814
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: One thousand percent. And the one thing I'll also say

815
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: is I love that Court and Natsha. It was such

816
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: a simple idea. But they would not be refused. They

817
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: would not be you know, deterred. They were just gonna

818
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: do it the way that they were gonna do it.

819
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: And I can't lie to you. Before the weekend started,

820
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: I had seen a couple posts about the content that

821
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 3: they had already put out, because they've been going live

822
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: at like six pm every Wednesday or something like that

823
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: for the last month or so, and I'd seen some

824
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: posts from the league and from other sources not calling

825
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: them stud buds, calling them best buds, or misspelling the

826
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: name of their duo, and I was just like, we're

827
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: not gonna do this. I want you to know this

828
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: isn't gonna happen because he the two of them aren't

829
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: gonna let it happen. And b we're at that point

830
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: with the w where we need to stop pretending like,

831
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: you know, we got to cater to the family, friendliest whatever,

832
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: like babes, they're studs. They are the stud buds.

833
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna use the words you brought me to the

834
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: next part and the closing part of this recap perfectly

835
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: because I want to do a little winners and losers.

836
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: So the winners very clearly are the stud buds.

837
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: Right, Everybody got to learn, if they didn't already see

838
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: content from them leading up to this weekend, that they

839
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: have something special and that it's a lot of fun

840
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: to just embrace it and be a part of it

841
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: and let them kind of be your hosts for the

842
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: weekend and take you around and be authentically and truly

843
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: and genuinely themselves. The loser for me and I'm not

844
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: going to call out this person by name. I think

845
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: this person actually does a good job at their job.

846
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: But an executive from the league on a panel I

847
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: heard said Natasha and Courtney as the stud buds. Her

848
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: name is Natasha. And you have to know your players.

849
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: They have to be the most important thing. And we've

850
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: talked about this when it comes to media and access,

851
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: that if you let people in to interview these players

852
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: who clearly don't watch, don't know them, ask bad questions,

853
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: ask things that make it clear they don't know any

854
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: history or context or nuance or anything. You make it

855
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 1: okay and not shameful. And in men's sports, you cannot

856
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: walk into a locker room and get names wrong and

857
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: facts wrong and not feel embarrassed by that. There's an

858
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: expectation that you know the topic you're there to cover

859
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: when you get there. And that's not to say everyone

860
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: always does in men's sports, but you come in with

861
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: some nerves if you don't know your shit. And in

862
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: women's sports, we got to stop allowing for the wrong

863
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: names for not knowing your history, especially for someone who

864
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: works for the league. And if you're in the middle

865
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: of CBA negotiations, and you're trying to tell us that

866
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: you understand that the players are the reason that fans

867
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: are there, that the money is coming in, that investment

868
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: is going up, that the players are everything, and you

869
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: call Natisha Hideman Natasha, that ain't it. And so again

870
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: I try not to blow up little things, but to me,

871
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: that should roll off your tongue.

872
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you. That's you. Gotta know it,

873
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: because you get ridiculed. On the other side, you will

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Speaker 3: get ridiculed. You will get trolled like all of it.

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Speaker 3: And not to say that that's great, but you know,

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Speaker 3: there's definitely that culture there that needs to be brought

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Speaker 3: to the w as well. Goodness winner for me is

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Speaker 3: the city of Indianapolis and the Fever organization putting together

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Speaker 3: good in Phoenix. We were both there for that too.

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Speaker 3: I mean from the names they brought in we mentioned Glorilla,

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Speaker 3: but I think also the branding in the ways that

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Speaker 3: those parties and events were executed. I haven't heard any

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Speaker 3: bad things about those, and that's not necessarily the Fever,

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Speaker 3: but that's just you know, it's a part. It's a

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Speaker 3: byproduct of, you know, the tone that they set. I

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Speaker 3: think Glow being there, I think at Feverfest. So I

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Speaker 3: didn't go to the All Star Game. I went to

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Speaker 3: They had Cedric the entertainer, Leslie Jones, Dion Cole, d

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Speaker 3: Nice Okay, they had beer performing there, they had g Easy.

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Speaker 3: Like the way that the organization in the city came

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Speaker 3: together to put on such a great event. Again, everything

895
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Speaker 3: was walking distance, they had petty cabs for people. It

896
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Speaker 3: was just it was beautiful to watch it all come together.

897
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Speaker 3: It was pretty seamless from my experience. So shout out

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Speaker 3: to the Fever organization and shout out to the city

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Speaker 3: of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, I want to add if you saw my face

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Speaker 1: when they showed Leslie Jones next to G Easy on

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Speaker 1: mouth a gape, that's g Easy, Like just calling myself

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Speaker 2: That was not what I was expecting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to your point about the city, I ran

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Speaker 1: into Kelly Cross Coops a lot throughout the weekend, the

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Speaker 1: president of basketball for the Fever or someone who helped

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Speaker 1: build that team from the ground up and then came

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Speaker 1: back around to take over again, and just had a

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Speaker 1: lot of praise for the way she talked about their

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Speaker 1: way she was checking in with folks to see how

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Speaker 2: They even had trolleys.

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Speaker 1: There was a trolley that passed by me on the

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Speaker 1: street blasting be our guest, with just people waving at

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Speaker 1: everyone like they were determined to make everyone feel welcome.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, there were some concerns about that,

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Speaker 1: and they were they were completely erased.

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Speaker 2: It was great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, picking losers is hard, Sarah, and I'm glad to

924
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Speaker 3: say that picking losers is very hard. Honestly, I'll say

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Speaker 3: anybody who was also working and tried to ensure I'll

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Speaker 3: start working was a loser.

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Speaker 2: Our livers, our vocal cords.

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Speaker 3: The bags under my eyes are designer, as they say,

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Speaker 3: I've never had this much purple on my face, under

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Speaker 3: my eyes and my entire life. But that doesn't make

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Speaker 3: us losers, really, no, it just makes me.

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Speaker 2: I had a good time enjoyed the league. You and

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Speaker 2: I both were mature.

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Speaker 1: You had an early flight, so you skipped the partying Saturday.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday night, when I first got in, I went

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Speaker 1: to the together party and it was awesome, and I

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Speaker 1: had to leave because it was so loud that my

938
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Speaker 1: voice was starting to go. And I knew I had

939
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Speaker 1: my interviews all day the next day and my work stuff,

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Speaker 1: and so I very maturely had ad drink and then

941
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Speaker 1: made myself leave at midnight. And that is progress for me,

942
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Speaker 1: because it was a raging party and it was really fun.

943
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Speaker 1: Ed I had to show myself the door so I

944
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Speaker 1: could work the next day.

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Speaker 2: Patting myself on the back. Okay, my last Winners and

946
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Speaker 2: Losers is actually kind of the same.

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Speaker 1: The league is a winner to your point, because it

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Speaker 1: was a great event, But the league is also a

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Speaker 1: loser to me in the sense of the moment during

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Speaker 1: the game when the band started chanting pay them It

951
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Speaker 1: to me immediately evoked the World Cup when the US won,

952
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Speaker 1: and instead of the fans in a different country chanting USA, USA,

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Speaker 1: they were chanting equal pay, Equal Pay. When you win

954
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Speaker 1: a World Cup and your fans are so directly tied

955
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Speaker 1: to your fight for something beyond that victory that they

956
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Speaker 1: in that moment, start chanting equal pay in a stadium

957
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Speaker 1: of people is standing behind paying women what they're worth.

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Speaker 1: That was a no going back moment for me with

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Speaker 1: the US women's national team in US soccer.

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Speaker 2: They were not going to win that fight.

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Speaker 1: And as I stood and turned behind me to look

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Speaker 1: When Kathy got on the mic, instead of just cheering

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Speaker 1: for Fee winning MVP, they had a mission to make

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Speaker 1: sure that their voices were heard. In that moment, I

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Speaker 1: already knew it was lights out for the league in

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Speaker 1: this fight, but the public pressure in addition to the data,

969
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Speaker 1: in addition to the valuations, in addition to Claudia Golden,

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Speaker 1: who I got to talk to and asked to come

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Speaker 1: on our show to talk about the economics behind the

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Speaker 1: paying of the players, you know, based on revenue, all.

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Speaker 2: Of that added up and the fans chanting, that's.

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Speaker 1: A that's a win for the PA in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: and the players.

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Speaker 3: And also shout out to Rebecca and Ryan, Andrea and

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Speaker 3: El and Cheney for tea in Holly row for teeing

978
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: up the players on the live broadcast to talk about

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00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: the CBA negotiations and not shying away from that conversation.

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Speaker 3: I also thought that was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I got to see all them.

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Speaker 1: I got to shout out my girl, Elle Duncan, because

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Speaker 1: she went from the US Women's National Team Players Association

984
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Speaker 1: Ball on Tuesday, where I saw her, to the SP's

985
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, where she walked the red carpet, was on

986
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Speaker 1: the live air, and then flew to Indy where she

987
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: hosted All Weekend and is flying straight to fill in

988
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: for Mark.

989
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: And Kelly hasn't been home.

990
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Speaker 1: In three weeks and she sprained her ankle so well

991
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Speaker 1: down the stairs right before the All Star Game. So

992
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Speaker 1: I see her coming into work and she is limping,

993
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Speaker 1: and I'm like Domino's injury because I saw her at

994
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Speaker 1: Kandae Parker's party, and she's like even lamer. I tripped

995
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Speaker 1: on some stairs dead sober, so shouts to Elle for

996
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Speaker 1: being a workhorse and heal up girl.

997
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right. They all did a fantastic job.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: We could say so much more, but we've gone on

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Speaker 1: too long. As always, we got to take another break.

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