Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 2: LZ.
Speaker 1: We have a jam Pack show today. What is in
Speaker 1: the playbook jam Packed?
Speaker 3: Just like that infamous Delta flight. Everybody, First, we are
Speaker 3: talking about, Oh, you thought that airline travel couldn't get
Speaker 3: any crappier, Well, how about the flight that had to
Speaker 3: land because it was covered in shit. Then Joe Jonas
Speaker 3: and Sophie Turner's relationship takes a turn for the poopy.
Speaker 3: They have decided to divorce, while Kylie Jenner and Timothy
Speaker 3: Shallomey debut their love Then Ruby Frank influencer turned child abuser.
Speaker 3: What this means for the future of social media and parenting?
Speaker 3: And last, but not least, they're the last ones to leave.
Speaker 3: More than seventy thousand people stuck at Burning Man. Wow,
Speaker 3: that's my nightmare.
Speaker 1: There are some lessons and takeaways. We're starting with poop.
Speaker 3: We can't start with poop. Let's start with what's going
Speaker 3: on with us? Because you had a I mean, you
Speaker 3: want to talk breaking news. This was a mile marker moment.
Speaker 3: Everybody before we get to all those stories. Let's talk
Speaker 3: about a moment that might become a major historical milestone
Speaker 3: of our relationship. Chris Harrison got his first ever yeah pedicure.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: This surprised me so Basically. I had just come home
Speaker 3: from spending the weekend with my mom for Labor Day.
Speaker 3: I was helping my mom clean out she still lives
Speaker 3: in the home that I grew up in, and my
Speaker 3: little brother. Shout out to Jonathan Zeema, God love him,
Speaker 3: but still hadn't cleaned out his room.
Speaker 1: Terrifically successful lawyer, maybe the hottest rising star in the
Speaker 1: legal front in southern California, his childhood bedroom is a disaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, turning twenty nine in a week I
Speaker 3: texted him. I'm like, hey, dude, I'm home with mom.
Speaker 3: I'm cleaning out your room. He goes, I was going
Speaker 3: to do that at Thanksgiving, I said, of which year?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean, It's funny. No matter how intelligent and successful
Speaker 3: he is, he's still my little brother. But I had
Speaker 3: a great weekend at home with my mom. She criticized
Speaker 3: me in the best ways possible. That always makes me
Speaker 3: feel loved, unless unpacked that in therapy later but so
Speaker 3: we come home and I'm like, you know, I just
Speaker 3: love to get a manicure, pedicare I've been literally digging,
Speaker 3: you know, cleaning dust and digging out artifacts of childhood
Speaker 3: for three days and Chris says he's never gotten a pedicure. Now,
Speaker 3: you had had a manicure, I have. Why when I
Speaker 3: think of all the years that you spent in Hollywood
Speaker 3: getting pampered, how did you never get a pedicare?
Speaker 1: I never did, and I have. I mean, I will
Speaker 1: brag on myself a little bit above average looking feet,
Speaker 1: like I don't have those bad dude feet that a
Speaker 1: guy's played sports his whole life, which I have. I
Speaker 1: pretty good looking feet, so nothing to be embarrassed about.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. Your feet are fine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you're comparing your feet maybe to like the
Speaker 3: horror of what a messy, gross sprat boys feet my own, just.
Speaker 1: Guy guys that have been active their whole lives, you know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, And I'll be honest, I can't really think of
Speaker 3: what any other men's feet look like like any guy
Speaker 3: I'd ever dated in the past, I can't remember their
Speaker 3: feet as we're sitting here now, so I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't like to compare feet. But I've never had
Speaker 1: a pedicara. I got a manicure, and actually, the funny
Speaker 1: thing is the first one I got was with Jim Belushi.
Speaker 1: What back in the day when I was at ABC
Speaker 1: and I was at the upfronts in New York and
Speaker 1: I was at the Ritz Central Park South. They create
Speaker 1: this room for the talent and I walked in because
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on. You get a
Speaker 1: little powder on your nose before you go to this
Speaker 1: upfront presentation where you're talking to the advertisers. John Ritter
Speaker 1: was there and then Belushi was there doing according to Jim,
Speaker 1: and he's like, Harrison, have you ever and I've never
Speaker 1: met the guy you you ever had a manicure? And
Speaker 1: I was like, no, sir, I haven't. He's like, sit down,
Speaker 1: He's like, you're gonna love this. And I got a
Speaker 1: manicure with blution. She was one of the highlights of
Speaker 1: my days ever at ABC.
Speaker 3: So maybe you just felt you topped out with that,
Speaker 3: never get.
Speaker 2: It out there.
Speaker 1: So I just never went there with my feet. But
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not against it. I'm in for
Speaker 1: a spa day I'm in for all the pampering. I
Speaker 1: love it. I just I don't know why I've never
Speaker 1: done it, but damn it, I love it.
Speaker 3: And I'm are you in now?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now I'm kind of addicted.
Speaker 3: I posted about this on Instagram, and I had several
Speaker 3: women message me that they would take like their husband
Speaker 3: or even some women said their father like an older
Speaker 3: man and took them and then they became addicted. Now
Speaker 3: these guys regularly go get pedicures.
Speaker 1: I was, I'm pretty comfortable with this stuff. I was
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 1: I just, You're just you're walking into enemy territory. It's
Speaker 1: not your jam.
Speaker 3: Oh, the salon isn't a familiar place for you, Okay,
Speaker 3: enemy territory.
Speaker 1: It's not a sports bar, it's not you know, You're
Speaker 1: just it's unfamiliar territory and so predominantly filled with women.
Speaker 1: What help. There was a really burly, manly dude sitting.
Speaker 3: In the middle of the what a handlebar must He had.
Speaker 1: A handle or mustache, and he was.
Speaker 3: You know what, that was a manicured, groomed man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Good, I get that because I feel that way. Conversely,
Speaker 3: sometimes like if I might walk into a gym and
Speaker 3: it's full of guys, then I sort of feel like
Speaker 3: the guys are judging me if I'm using the machines
Speaker 3: or they're checking me out. You feel a little vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, because Taylor, my daughter, says
Speaker 1: the same thing. She goes, I don't like to go
Speaker 1: to the gym because I feel like everyone's looking at me.
Speaker 1: I said, well, that's our perception.
Speaker 3: But I will also say sometimes for women that is
Speaker 3: a reality. Like you know, women, are you go to
Speaker 3: the gym and guys are checking you out?
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but that is our perception anyway, whether whether
Speaker 1: it's happening or not. And that was my perception. You
Speaker 1: walk in. It felt like that record scratch moment of
Speaker 1: like what are you doing here? But I quickly got
Speaker 1: really comfortable in the little massage chair and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: So I thank you for broadening my horizons. And I
Speaker 1: think my feet look fantastic.
Speaker 3: I will tell you I can no longer hear them
Speaker 3: against the sheets, isn't And I.
Speaker 1: Tell you this, I would never go barefoot on an airplane,
Speaker 1: even before the poopy plane.
Speaker 3: Oh what a transition Okay, the first story. Everybody, I'm
Speaker 3: guessing you've heard about it. If you haven't, this feels
Speaker 3: like maybe now the most infamous airline flight of all time.
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna forget this. I've had several people send me
Speaker 3: articles about this. I sent it to you. I couldn't
Speaker 3: believe it when I first saw it.
Speaker 1: Well, now the video is out, you can actually see it.
Speaker 3: A Delta Airline International flight had to make an emergency landing.
Speaker 3: The pilot said there was a bio hazard on board,
Speaker 3: and we've now seen viral video. What that biohazard was
Speaker 3: was a passenger had oh gosh, well, the news that
Speaker 3: first came out was that the person had pooped all
Speaker 3: the way through the plane. And when that first came
Speaker 3: out before the video was released, I remember I sent
Speaker 3: you the article and said, what do you think that means?
Speaker 3: My guess was the only way you poop all the
Speaker 3: way through a plane is if someone is having an
Speaker 3: issue trying to get to the bathroom and they can't
Speaker 3: control it and they go all the way down the aisle.
Speaker 1: Someone is having explosive diarrhea.
Speaker 3: You said it. The video comes out confirmed that's the case.
Speaker 3: There is diarrhea all down the aisle of this plane.
Speaker 3: What a runway, a run's way?
Speaker 1: A trail of horror on the airplane.
Speaker 3: Do you hear the punt? I just made No, you
Speaker 3: miss that. Let me back that up and highlight this
Speaker 3: rea Okay, go, I just said it from the runway
Speaker 3: to the runs way.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We just rewound the tape for that. It
Speaker 1: is horrifying to see. And it's horrifying to even think of.
Speaker 1: I the only thing that I can even come close
Speaker 1: to saying happened to me one time.
Speaker 3: Oh god, where are we calling this?
Speaker 1: There was a so you know, everyone can bring their
Speaker 1: dogs on a plane. It was like a thing like, oh,
Speaker 1: my dogs are a while it was a big thing.
Speaker 1: My dog's a service dog and you have this like
Speaker 1: eighty pound animal laying in front of you. Someone had
Speaker 1: brought a dog clearly wasn't a service dog, but you
Speaker 1: know it had the tag on it so great and
Speaker 1: this dog relieved itself. No on the plane in every
Speaker 1: way possible. No, And it was and this was just
Speaker 1: a pile of dog poo and it was so horrifyingly stinky.
Speaker 3: What horrible did the person do?
Speaker 1: They try to clean it up and then here's the
Speaker 1: trick that they You can't do it for a runway
Speaker 1: of diarrhea that goes the extent of the plane. But
Speaker 1: what they do is they bring coffee grounds out. So
Speaker 1: the flight attendants come and bury it with coffee grounds
Speaker 1: because that overpowers the smell. And it actually worked.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then the whole place smelled like coffee grounds, which
Speaker 1: was better but still for Yeah, so but that only
Speaker 1: helps for think about one small spot. This was an
Speaker 1: entire plane. I can't imagine you were confined in this tube.
Speaker 1: The smell, the screams, the you know, sitting those people that.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty big plane.
Speaker 3: Think of a plane that's an international flight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two aisles on either side of those middle seats,
Speaker 1: so it was on if you're facing the front of
Speaker 1: the plane, it was on the left side of the
Speaker 1: plane all the way down. So at least those on
Speaker 1: the right side of the plane were like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: But I'm sure they were awakened to it when they
Speaker 1: smelled it.
Speaker 3: Well, interesting about the coffee grounds trick of the trade.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was thinking the issue is airline floors
Speaker 3: are like that thin carpet, but it's carpet, So if
Speaker 3: a bodily fluid, and I've wondered sometimes why don't airlines
Speaker 3: and hotels just go with like a nice lamin it.
Speaker 3: But it's probably a slipping hazard. They don't want people
Speaker 3: that I get it on airplanes just for safety. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but then me run into this. I you run into this. Sorry.
Speaker 3: So I I was thinking about how you when you
Speaker 3: were just telling that story and you said I have
Speaker 3: a story. I was like, are you going to reveal
Speaker 3: something about yourself? And I asked you this question, who
Speaker 3: do you feel worse for? Yeah, person who did the pooping,
Speaker 3: or the people who were subject to the poop, the
Speaker 3: passenger or the rest of the passengers.
Speaker 1: I get the passenger, the horror of that, the shame
Speaker 1: I feel for those people that were on that aisle.
Speaker 3: I have to be honest with you. I feel worse
Speaker 3: for the passenger. Yeah, because the people who are on
Speaker 3: the plane, I mean, look, I feel horrible for them.
Speaker 3: And also probably I saw somebody tweet something like, imagine
Speaker 3: you missed your vacation because like people, they had a
Speaker 3: major delay. They had to emergency land the plane, which
Speaker 3: I do think the pilot made the right call.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting, what are you going to do spend
Speaker 1: another eight hours going to London.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I mean people couldn't walk up and down
Speaker 3: the aisle, you know, like I wouldn't have landed the
Speaker 3: plane for the dogs. One poop in one little idea.
Speaker 3: But you know, listen, this isn't the first. I'm sure
Speaker 3: babies have pooped on planes or people have thrown up
Speaker 3: on planes, but this was all the way through. But
Speaker 3: I feel the worst or the passenger, because everybody else
Speaker 3: is walking away with a gross but ultimately a story,
Speaker 3: and like one day they're gonna laugh about it, hopefully
Speaker 3: this poor person. I actually they have not released the
Speaker 3: name yet. I truly hope they don't release the name
Speaker 3: of this person because obviously they didn't mean or want
Speaker 3: to do that. They have to be so ashamed. They
Speaker 3: had to feel so ashamed in the moment. I mean,
Speaker 3: what if it's an elderly person.
Speaker 1: We don't do the same thing or yeah, so I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 3: And I saw a lot of people because some media
Speaker 3: outlets were posting about the story on Instagram, and some
Speaker 3: people in the comment section were even saying like, look,
Speaker 3: this isn't like we don't want to know the person's name.
Speaker 3: We feel bad. This could be you know, it could
Speaker 3: have been someone who's very ill. We don't know, yeah
Speaker 3: and so, or it could have been somebody who's really hungover.
Speaker 3: And get yourself to the back.
Speaker 1: We can get there. Who knows why. I mean, I
Speaker 1: but if you put yourself in those shoes, could you
Speaker 1: imagine you're just like, I'm not gonna make it.
Speaker 3: If this person's name is released, everyone, this story becomes
Speaker 3: so much bigger. I mean, by the way time of recording.
Speaker 3: For all we know, it could be this person is
Speaker 3: doing a sit down on the Today Show.
Speaker 1: I just hope they get to live in obscurity. And
Speaker 1: it's just the fact that.
Speaker 3: No I can see the footage. Now they're going to
Speaker 3: take them back to the plane. They're going to do
Speaker 3: a reenactment, walk them through the.
Speaker 1: Plane, dramatic reenactment.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was really thinking about the logistics and then
Speaker 3: I'll be done with this. When I first heard about
Speaker 3: it again, when you hear all the way through the
Speaker 3: plane and then you see it, I was just thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like, we're not all unfamiliar. People have
Speaker 3: had food poisoning, We've all had our moments. Whatever, I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: how do you not? First of all, how do you
Speaker 3: not get to the bathroom? It had to really be bad.
Speaker 3: But second of all, like I'm like, was it a
Speaker 3: person in a dress? Because even if you boop yourself,
Speaker 3: it's mostly contained to your pants, Like, how does it
Speaker 3: get all the way down that much?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like that, because it's a lot. It's like someone ran
Speaker 1: down naked.
Speaker 3: Using my deductive reasoning, my detective skills, my investigation of journalists,
Speaker 3: hat I'm saying this person was wearing a dresser skirt.
Speaker 1: When I had young children, we would call that a blowout,
Speaker 1: and that happens from time to time.
Speaker 3: I have to be honest, I don't understand this. I've
Speaker 3: seen it, like a baby's wearing a diaper, but somehow
Speaker 3: the poop's not in the diaper, it's on the clothes.
Speaker 1: So sometimes it's so impressive.
Speaker 3: That it goes through the diaper out the sides. Oh,
Speaker 3: there's just so much.
Speaker 1: There's so much, and it's just force full and it's
Speaker 1: a blowout and you're like, oh, there's that onesie and
Speaker 1: then you burn it. And which is what they should
Speaker 1: do with this plane. I hope they destroy this plane.
Speaker 1: The plane should be humanely destroyed. They're not going to
Speaker 1: the has Matt crew that has to come on. And
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. Think of the crew that has
Speaker 1: to come on and clean that. Howeveryone got off that
Speaker 1: plane and had to crawl over to the other aisle.
Speaker 1: Just oh man, my heart goes out for everybody on
Speaker 1: that plane.
Speaker 3: There were people who got poop on them on that plane,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how many people got sick, Like how many
Speaker 1: people just threw up, were gagging like there had to
Speaker 1: be a lot takeaway. Don't eat the fish we went
Speaker 1: offered on a plane, you know, go vegetarian, don't eat
Speaker 1: the fish.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, it's horrible to be sick on a plane, regardless,
Speaker 3: like if you're ever in that situation, being in a
Speaker 3: plane bathroom is horrifying. And this just this takes the
Speaker 3: chocolate cake. Okay, enough enough poop talk, you know what,
Speaker 3: Let's take a turn to just like celebrity drama gossip
Speaker 3: to get us out of this. But you know, we're
Speaker 3: going to turn to somebody who's not in a great place.
Speaker 3: Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner. This was a bit of
Speaker 3: a shocker announcing they're divorcing after only about four years
Speaker 3: of marriage. They have two children, so I mean, our
Speaker 3: hearts go out to them. But they were a pretty
Speaker 3: like publicly happy couple. They would do cute little TikTok
Speaker 3: videos together and like gush about each other. But they
Speaker 3: did just both release after a few rumors, a few
Speaker 3: TMZ reports, they did both release a joint statement. And
Speaker 3: when I say both release a joint I'm sort of
Speaker 3: over using my words because their statement over uses the
Speaker 3: words a little bit. It says that they have quote
Speaker 3: mutually decided to amicably end their marriage. Now, I think
Speaker 3: part of the reason they're so emphatic on the mutual
Speaker 3: amicability of it all is that there had been over
Speaker 3: just the past few days, some major accusations, reports flying
Speaker 3: reports that you know, his ring is off and that
Speaker 3: he saw something on a ring camera, a lots of
Speaker 3: ring stuff that made him decide it was over, and
Speaker 3: reports from sources that she's out partying and he had
Speaker 3: the kids even though he was on tour, like it
Speaker 3: was getting very nasty. And I'm glad glad they release
Speaker 3: that joint statement, but it makes me my spidy sense
Speaker 3: is going off that somebody's like out to get someone
Speaker 3: here because there's just a lot of details, alleged details
Speaker 3: out like the ring camera thing, that are kind of
Speaker 3: trying to really it really sounds like whatever these sources are,
Speaker 3: they're trying to make Sophie Turner look bad here, and
Speaker 3: it makes me think it's going to get nasty.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of sources. My guess is their team
Speaker 1: or even their their separate teams are trying to get
Speaker 1: ahead of this clearly today and tomorrow and trying to
Speaker 1: squelch this stuff and control it. It's because it sounds
Speaker 1: like the sources are out there TMZ saying stuff, but
Speaker 1: it's they're trying to control the narrative as much as possible.
Speaker 1: But I agree sometimes when this stuff starts rolling out,
Speaker 1: it's it's going to get out.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Wishing them all the best, but yeah, my spidy sense
Speaker 3: is going off here that this might.
Speaker 1: Get a little dark, ugly before it gets better. Yes,
Speaker 1: is there good news in Hollyoo good news?
Speaker 3: I'll see this falls right down the middle Kylie Jenner
Speaker 3: and Timothy, although I believe the correct pronunciation is timote
Speaker 3: chala May Timothay. He is part French and speaks fluent
Speaker 3: French and has an accent over the first e of
Speaker 3: his name. They made their public debut at Beyonce's Big
Speaker 3: concert in LA this week. Lots of celebrities there as
Speaker 3: Zendea there and Tom Holland. By the way, the cutest
Speaker 3: footage of Zendaya coming into the concert with like Kinta
Speaker 3: Brunson and some other amazing entertainers and Tom Holland just
Speaker 3: following her filming like being such a good Instagram boyfriend.
Speaker 3: So shout out to Tom Holland. I love how obsessed
Speaker 3: he is with her. And so Kylie Jenner, the Kardashians
Speaker 3: are there, Kendall was there, Kim was there. I think
Speaker 3: Chloe and Chris are there, and then Kylie and Timothy,
Speaker 3: and there were rumors that they were dating. They've never
Speaker 3: like really gone to an event together, but at the
Speaker 3: concert they're kind of hanging all over each other. But
Speaker 3: there's been mixed reviews from the people on the slope.
Speaker 1: Oh really, people are not in favor of this?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, no, why why?
Speaker 1: Well because they're taking Timothy Shallomey off the market because
Speaker 1: he's such a heart throb.
Speaker 3: Or I think people are struck by what just feels
Speaker 3: like an odd couple. It's just two very different corners
Speaker 3: of Hollywood.
Speaker 1: And careers, and people don't seem to do great when
Speaker 1: you do get involved in that entire family.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well, people are bringing up this photo
Speaker 3: from years ago, which I'd forgotten about. It's a photo
Speaker 3: They're at Nobu Malibu getting dinner. It's like a group
Speaker 3: of guys and in the picture at the time years
Speaker 3: ago is Kanye West, Timothy Shallomey, and Pete Davidson. No way,
Speaker 3: so obviously Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashia dated Kanye and Kim,
Speaker 3: and now Timothy is dating Kylie. And someone said, like
Speaker 3: they're You could write at this point truly thesises, theses papers,
Speaker 3: turn papers, grad study papers on the lore of the Kardashians.
Speaker 3: They are like the modern day Shakespearean tragedies of love
Speaker 3: and lust in Hollywood?
Speaker 1: Are they the Kennedys. Oh, almost to that level of
Speaker 1: you want to be seen with them, but it really
Speaker 1: doesn't go well. But like there's drama and there's a
Speaker 1: price to be paid.
Speaker 3: Oh you're no, You're that's a very good There are
Speaker 3: modern day Kennedy's. Because with the Kennedies, it's like so
Speaker 3: many people in the family were in the headlines.
Speaker 1: Pork to Calabasas.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Calabasas is the modern day cake. Anyone
Speaker 3: for it? You are so not wrong about this. Well,
Speaker 3: think about it, truly. I mean they could be part
Speaker 3: of like a like I feel like in colleges. Now,
Speaker 3: there's probably when I was in college was when reality
Speaker 3: TV was kind of first starting to really get big
Speaker 3: and being taken seriously as like a medium. But we
Speaker 3: had film studies courses. I'm sure there are or will
Speaker 3: be reality TV studies course.
Speaker 1: There's courses on the bus. There were courses on the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: I spoke. Oh yeah, I had a lot of people
Speaker 1: reach out to me throughout the years that they were
Speaker 1: taking this studies class, and it was based on The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Now it would branch off into like humanities of something
Speaker 1: about relationships or something like, they would take stuff out
Speaker 1: of it, but it was kind of based around the
Speaker 1: concept of the Bachelor, like group dating and mass dating
Speaker 1: and dating on TV and the phenomenon of it all.
Speaker 1: But yeah, totally wow. I mean, look, there's Harry Potter class.
Speaker 3: I know, I was about to say, and I wish
Speaker 3: I could have taken one there's Taylor Swift classes as
Speaker 3: their shit, you.
Speaker 1: Know those layup classes when it's just an easy a
Speaker 1: that would have been you and Harry Potter.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, by the way, big shout out to Beyonce,
Speaker 3: because I had a couple of friends in La go
Speaker 3: to that concert. Everybody said it was just phenomenal. And
Speaker 3: I'm loving this summer of female like women killing it
Speaker 3: in their careers, putting out incredible products. Taylor Swift in
Speaker 3: the air store, Beyonce in the Right Renaissance Tour, Barbie
Speaker 3: Greta Gerwig, Margot Robbie crossing the billion dollar mark at
Speaker 3: the box office. And I saw a headline the other
Speaker 3: day like Hollywood, wake up and see the spending power
Speaker 3: of women. Women control a lot of the check books
Speaker 3: at home.
Speaker 1: No, no, not some all. Yeah, I mean if you
Speaker 1: look at why is I mean, I'll go back to
Speaker 1: the Bacheler Why is the bacher so successful? Only because
Speaker 1: it crushed in the demographic of women eighteen to fifty
Speaker 1: four year olds. That is the demographic that General mills,
Speaker 1: that Chevy Toyota everybody wants to hit. That is the
Speaker 1: demo because they make the decisions on buying traveling. That's
Speaker 1: why we traveled so much. People loved it. You know,
Speaker 1: there's the decision makers are sitting on their couch at
Speaker 1: home looking going, yeah, I want to go to Barbados,
Speaker 1: I want to go to Bora, Bora whatever.
Speaker 3: But for sure, Yeah, it's like that quote from a
Speaker 3: I rewatched My Big Fat Greek Wedding the other day
Speaker 3: and jow Holds a hilarious movie. My family always loves
Speaker 3: that movie. But there's that line where her mom goes,
Speaker 3: the man thinks he is the head of the house,
Speaker 3: but the woman is the neck and she can turn
Speaker 3: the head anyway she wants. So I wish that Hollywood
Speaker 3: would take note, like, ye, it's the frustration, and I
Speaker 3: felt it weeks ago when it started coming out. Okay,
Speaker 3: Mattel sees that Barbie is a huge hit. So Mattel's responses,
Speaker 3: We're gonna make movies from all corners of our toy universe.
Speaker 1: No, that's nary answer. That's not the sign we're giving you.
Speaker 3: We're sick of franchises. We want original movies. Again. I
Speaker 3: can't think of I mean, I'll put Barbie in this category,
Speaker 3: but over the last ten years, I really can barely
Speaker 3: name movies other than superhero franchise movies, and I certainly
Speaker 3: struggle to name movies that would be rewatchable classics from
Speaker 3: the past decade or so. But then I look at
Speaker 3: like the nineties and the early two thousands, so many
Speaker 3: of those movies I just said, I rewatched My Big
Speaker 3: Factory Wedding. Those movies became class We need original movies
Speaker 3: to be good again, to touch our hearts again, just
Speaker 3: like Barbie did to make us laugh, to make us celebrate,
Speaker 3: and those are the films that stick with us. And
Speaker 3: I wish Hollywood would see that.
Speaker 1: What was that those questions on the SAT where it's
Speaker 1: like this plus this equals this and you had to
Speaker 1: like kind of figure out. I don't know how Hollywood
Speaker 1: executives have put this theory together. Barbie plus the box
Speaker 1: office equals rock'em sock em robots, Like, how are you
Speaker 1: making that correlation? That's not what we're saying.
Speaker 3: No, and the box office couldn't be screaming louder right now.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to see both Barbie and Oppenheimer setting records.
Speaker 1: And to your point, I was just racking my brain
Speaker 1: trying to think of maybe you can go country right now.
Speaker 1: I know, like our friend Parker McCollum's killing it, Morgan
Speaker 1: Wallen's killing it, and Luke Combs. But I can't think
Speaker 1: of a male driven band or tour that is is
Speaker 1: coming close. All I know, it's not coming close to
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, but it's also not coming close to Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Like those two.
Speaker 3: Nobody else is in the conversation.
Speaker 2: The SI.
Speaker 1: Is printing money. He is, so he's on that level
Speaker 1: for sure, but those two.
Speaker 3: But I think you're talking about also more than money.
Speaker 3: You're talking about a tour that's in the conversation of artistry,
Speaker 3: of perfection, of the craft.
Speaker 1: Of shaping the social conscience. It's what we talk about
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: They talk people are dressing up thematically to go to
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift and Beyonce. Everybody was in like their silver
Speaker 3: for Beyonce. People dress up as the eiras for Taylor Swift,
Speaker 3: the friendship bracelets, you know, Taylor doing the surprise songs,
Speaker 3: Beyonce bringing out like Diana Ross for her birth. There's
Speaker 3: just so many like these two women are at the
Speaker 3: pinnacle of their careers and it is I mean, we
Speaker 3: are alive to see something special. I will make one
Speaker 3: more note about Kylie and Timotay, which I love the tangent.
Speaker 3: We've gone off of them for this. But he was
Speaker 3: smoking at the concert. Yeah, like a cigarette smoking cigarette smoking. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I have something scary to say. I think smoking's back
Speaker 3: for the youth.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is what smoking's bad for you. Why
Speaker 1: is any back for the youth?
Speaker 3: Well, for sure, we knew kids like it's way on
Speaker 3: the rise because of vaping because what's scary with vape
Speaker 3: pens is you can't smell it, like they can sneak
Speaker 3: it more. And I don't think they're I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like we're all like pretending that it isn't as
Speaker 3: bad for us as cigarettes, but it it's such a
Speaker 3: it's always a bit of a striking reminder when you
Speaker 3: see a celebrity smoking. By the way, secrets revealed, lots
Speaker 3: of celebrities smoke. A lot of them smoke, FYI, everybody,
Speaker 3: you want to know one of the big ways that
Speaker 3: a celebrities stay thin. So many actors and actresses secretly smoke.
Speaker 1: You're right, it is on our set. A lot of
Speaker 1: crew members. A lot of people smoke still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people with hard jobs when they work long hours.
Speaker 1: Coffee and cigarettes, and I'm like, it's not nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: eight anymore. How are you smoking?
Speaker 3: It smells disgusting, You taste disgusting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, So we have two secret stories I
Speaker 1: want to bring. We're on the Kardashian I have a
Speaker 1: story for you. This surprise story ripped from today's headline
Speaker 1: Kanye West. Venice police are investigating Kanye West and Bianca
Speaker 1: Sensory after the couple were seen in a racy position.
Speaker 1: According to The Daily Mail, they are saying that yes
Speaker 1: exposed butt cheeks during their Italian trip disregarded their standards
Speaker 1: of public decorum. The police are also asserted that the
Speaker 1: pair's picture show them in a state of intimacy in Venice, Italy,
Speaker 1: by the way, not California. Basically, it's it seems like
Speaker 1: maybe they were on one of these boats.
Speaker 3: West was snapped with his trousers down in his bottom exposed, yes,
Speaker 3: and she appeared to be crouching between his legs.
Speaker 1: You can connect the doll.
Speaker 3: Following the release of the photos, the boat company issued
Speaker 3: a statement declaring that the famous couple are no longer
Speaker 3: welcome on future trips and have been banned from the company.
Speaker 1: So there you know picture picture. You know Venice and
Speaker 1: those cool old wooden boats, not the gondolas that they
Speaker 1: paddle are around. It's like you're on a motor boat
Speaker 1: going through the big canals. That is what they are on.
Speaker 1: And it seems maybe he was being pleasured of some
Speaker 1: sort sans Trousersanye, So it is the most romantic city
Speaker 1: in the world. I think maybe they took it a
Speaker 1: little too far. Thoughts on Kanye and Bianca.
Speaker 3: This isn't no way acceptable. This is completely unacceptable.
Speaker 1: There's a driver on the boat, by the way, there's
Speaker 1: someone else on the boat.
Speaker 3: You're in the canal, you're in public view of the world.
Speaker 3: I don't And also from these pictures it looks to
Speaker 3: be the middle of the day, daytime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: on the Grand Canal. You know, you're kind of out
Speaker 1: on the water, can't be seen.
Speaker 3: This is Look, I'm no prude, and I mean I
Speaker 3: don't think I'm that prudish, and I get that everybody
Speaker 3: everybody in some point in some relationships probably had want
Speaker 3: to have a little public dalliance, like be a little
Speaker 3: naughty or something. But this is the middle of the
Speaker 3: day in one of the most visited touristy cities in
Speaker 3: the world. And by the way, right now, the Venice
Speaker 3: Film Festival is happening. There's a whole film probably.
Speaker 1: While they're there. And by the way, you are the
Speaker 1: most one of the most visual people in the world.
Speaker 1: People all eyes are on you. You know, people are
Speaker 1: taking pictures of you. So I think we agree this
Speaker 1: is a no go.
Speaker 3: What makes me sad is she looks so much like
Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian. Yeah, and you know, Kanye Wes is in
Speaker 3: a dark place, and I feel bad for him in
Speaker 3: the situation. I feel bad for him. I feel bad
Speaker 3: for their children.
Speaker 1: It's not great, agreed, What is your secret story you're
Speaker 1: bringing to the table today?
Speaker 3: So I'm throwing this at you because you have not
Speaker 3: looked into it at all. I am surface level aware
Speaker 3: of in reading some headlines, but I'd never heard of
Speaker 3: this person before. But it's very interesting to me an influencer.
Speaker 3: I hope I'm pronouncing her name right, although maybe she
Speaker 3: doesn't deserve to have it pronounced right. Ruby Frank This
Speaker 3: woman is a mother of six. She had a popular
Speaker 3: YouTube channel with about two million subscribers. Before it was
Speaker 3: taken down earlier this year. And she also had presence
Speaker 3: on other social media platforms TikTok and more, and she
Speaker 3: would post about parenting and she's been arrested for child abuse,
Speaker 3: not jeez, And apparently she would like post things about
Speaker 3: her parenting techniques which included things like briving her children
Speaker 3: of food, like she posted that when she was sort
Speaker 3: of boasting in one video that I think has now
Speaker 3: been removed, that her child's teacher had called and said,
Speaker 3: you know, your child came to school without lunch today,
Speaker 3: and she said, well, yeah, that's because my kid messed
Speaker 3: up and forgot to make their own lunch. And I'm
Speaker 3: teaching them the lesson if you forget to make your lunch,
Speaker 3: you're not eating. So apparently she's been arrested for far
Speaker 3: worse than that one of her children escaped through a
Speaker 3: window of her home, or a child escaped through a
Speaker 3: window of her home, ran to a neighbor's house for help,
Speaker 3: and official said the condition of children that they found
Speaker 3: was so severe that they were taken to a local hospital.
Speaker 3: So it's really wild to me. I think that this
Speaker 3: was all in such plain sight, right, like that this
Speaker 3: person I mean two million subscribers on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this person is revered on social media for being
Speaker 1: a good parent and knowing these skills and teaching.
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't say for sure revered by all.
Speaker 3: There might have been people subscribing to or following, like
Speaker 3: out of fear, out of what's going on here, trying
Speaker 3: to expose the truth and asking hard questions, but I
Speaker 3: mean two million at some level, Yeah, you had some
Speaker 3: people listening to her.
Speaker 1: My takeaway from just listening to this for the first time.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of this on the internet obviously Instagram,
Speaker 1: TikTok and all that of people that like stuff I watch.
Speaker 1: I love food stuff, and so I listened to certain
Speaker 1: people on what to eat, what not to eat. Even
Speaker 1: some of those people seem like they're in the know.
Speaker 1: I don't know them, and some now are being exposed
Speaker 1: for not being doctor's nutritionness, etc. Yes, same thing with
Speaker 1: workout people. I follow out of workout people, and.
Speaker 3: So everyone's an expert there, everyone's an expert.
Speaker 1: Just because you have a million people on TikTok or
Speaker 1: what have you. And parenting is the same and it's
Speaker 1: just you know, things are not as they appear to be.
Speaker 1: Just because someone looks good and has a nice ring
Speaker 1: light and their kids are dancing doesn't mean they are
Speaker 1: an expert. We have to be very careful in this
Speaker 1: day and age.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that it's a lesson yeah, and asking questions.
Speaker 3: You know, who am I really listening to here? Of course,
Speaker 3: the power of social media is that it, you know,
Speaker 3: can expose you to new things. Can I help you
Speaker 3: learn about things you didn't before. There are people who
Speaker 3: felt isolated in issues and now can connect with others.
Speaker 3: And then there's this other side of it. And I
Speaker 3: do think that we're on the crest of a wave
Speaker 3: when it comes to what people are able to show
Speaker 3: and share about with their kids online. Because I saw it,
Speaker 3: I believe it was an Illinois, my home state, just
Speaker 3: passed a law involving like how much parents have to
Speaker 3: share money that they make on social media with their children, because,
Speaker 3: like think about it, this is sort of the new
Speaker 3: version of a child star. I think Kali Culkin, I believe,
Speaker 3: you know, famously of Home Alone and many other movies
Speaker 3: as a kid, I think he became estranged from and
Speaker 3: sued his parents for like like money that you know,
Speaker 3: he was the child actor he'd made the money, but
Speaker 3: his parents kept that money.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of those stories child athletes stars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think we're going to see that now.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously this is abuse. This is a whole
Speaker 3: different story. But you know what can be considered abuse?
Speaker 3: Is it child labor? If you're making your kid like
Speaker 3: you know, just.
Speaker 1: Kind of do videos with you gabbled into that Michael
Speaker 1: or story and the Blindside story with the Twoey's.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of very gray areas, and I
Speaker 3: think we're going to potentially see some new laws be
Speaker 3: made here. But if nothing else, it's such a lesson
Speaker 3: in questioning what you see online.
Speaker 1: Yes, don't just take it for what it is, like,
Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt. Actually, to put
Speaker 1: it back in nutritional terms, let's end with a kicker.
Speaker 1: Let's burn this thing down. Oh my gosh, the disaster
Speaker 1: that is and was Burning Man. Now do you know
Speaker 1: much about burning Man? Because I really didn't. It's something
Speaker 1: I heard about.
Speaker 3: You know what, I realized what I thought it was
Speaker 3: a music festival. I'm not sure that it is.
Speaker 1: It's not I thought the same thing. I thought it
Speaker 1: was like south By Southwest or like a yeah, So
Speaker 1: it started back in nineteen eighty six when these two
Speaker 1: dudes in San Francisco, I think, burn what appeared not
Speaker 1: a man.
Speaker 3: I know, they burned this like big statue or structure that.
Speaker 1: It was a man in the statue. They burned it
Speaker 1: on the beach or whatever, and they called it Burning Man,
Speaker 1: hence the title, and this thing took off. Now they
Speaker 1: go to the desert in Nevada and there is this seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine day whatever it is, existentialistic escape. They create a
Speaker 1: city out there at Airport Medical. They create everything out
Speaker 1: there in.
Speaker 3: These because something like seventy thousand people go.
Speaker 1: But they create a living city to where people just go,
Speaker 1: dwell and exist. And there are musical acts. So it's
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a festival, but a lot of
Speaker 1: musicians and stuff do go.
Speaker 3: And the New York Times, I just pulled this up,
Speaker 3: describes Burning Man as a nine day celebration of art
Speaker 3: and self expression held in a temporary community about one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty miles north of Reno, and the festival
Speaker 3: has drawn around seventy thousand people in recent years.
Speaker 1: And people get dressed up like it's Thunderdome.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I mean, and sort of famously different
Speaker 3: celebrities will go. I think Leonardo DiCaprio is often seen.
Speaker 1: There, often known for the drugs and the hallucinogenics. That's
Speaker 1: a very burning.
Speaker 3: Man, right, I mean, I think when you hear that
Speaker 3: it's a celebration of art and self expression, you assumed
Speaker 3: some drugs, allucinogenics.
Speaker 1: But this burning Man really came to a screeching halt
Speaker 1: due to the fact that they had torrential rains. They're
Speaker 1: in the desert, and if you've ever been in the desert,
Speaker 1: it's very dry until it's not. And when it rains,
Speaker 1: it pours and it floods and the dud dust turns
Speaker 1: to mud.
Speaker 3: And it became very scary. People have been trapped.
Speaker 1: For for days days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were advised to conserve food and water for safety.
Speaker 3: There are stories of people saying they did a treacherous,
Speaker 3: you know, five six hour hike through mud in the
Speaker 3: darkness to get out. And by the way, it doesn't
Speaker 3: seem anyone was safe from this. I saw that, like
Speaker 3: the Diplo, the musician and Chris Rock, I think we
Speaker 3: had like hiked out together, but they're like, no, no,
Speaker 3: we like hiked out like everyone else. We didn't have
Speaker 3: some special I mean, I don't think emergency vehicles could
Speaker 3: get to people.
Speaker 1: No, it was the mud closed all the roads. Nobody
Speaker 1: could get through. Everybody was just stuck, and so they
Speaker 1: stopped everybody until today actually, when the mass exodus took
Speaker 1: place and some seventy three thousand people tried to exit
Speaker 1: at the same time, cranky, tired, probably hungry. They said
Speaker 1: the lines were over five hours long to get out.
Speaker 1: Now they're saying they're putting on a brave face, saying, well,
Speaker 1: it always takes hours to get out, but it has
Speaker 1: never been like this.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, this is a reminder for me. I
Speaker 3: know of why I don't go.
Speaker 1: I know I'm with you. I'm with you. I did
Speaker 1: one time.
Speaker 3: Here's my issue.
Speaker 1: I'll never do it again.
Speaker 3: At the in the best case scenario, you're still kind
Speaker 3: of surviving it. And I mean, I wish there was
Speaker 3: a better word than surviving. But in the best case scenario,
Speaker 3: if you do a festival in the best way possible,
Speaker 3: we're the most expensive VIP tickets that you can get,
Speaker 3: You're still going to the bathroom in a porta body.
Speaker 3: You're still sweating your butt off, You're still making your
Speaker 3: way through mobs of people. You're still like trying to
Speaker 3: get a drink in some food. And that's when you
Speaker 3: pay top dollar for your experience. Like, that's what I
Speaker 3: don't understand about the festival thing. I mean, you're choosing
Speaker 3: to go to the middle of the desert even if
Speaker 3: it hadn't rained. I don't see the appeal of going
Speaker 3: to sweat my you know what off for nine days
Speaker 3: in the desert.
Speaker 1: You know if I will in August, Yeah, because on
Speaker 1: a good day, it's a thousand degrees. On a bad
Speaker 1: day is it's storming and it's flooding. But if I
Speaker 1: said to you I really hate this person, I'm going
Speaker 1: to torture them. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rag them into the desert. They're going to be
Speaker 1: stuck there for four days.
Speaker 3: What it's like how they killed people on breaking back exactly,
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand.
Speaker 1: So so weird. We're not in for Burning Man twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. So don't don't reach out to Elsie and
Speaker 1: I on the most traumatic podcast ever.
Speaker 3: But I will tell you what I'm in for, and
Speaker 3: it's bringing it back to our very first story. Yeah,
Speaker 3: several people were saying, okay, when are we going to
Speaker 3: get just like we had with that infamous Fire Festival
Speaker 3: few years ago. You remember that festival was supposed to
Speaker 3: be a music thing and it was a total disaster
Speaker 3: and people were like eating slices of cheese to get sustenance.
Speaker 3: When do we get? We hope there are crews filming
Speaker 3: for the like Netflix documentary about both this year's Burning
Speaker 3: Man and the Poop Plane.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know you weren't here, Marie Manunos is
Speaker 1: filling in because you were at Camp the Experience camps.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Fire Festival dude is out of jail and already talking
Speaker 1: about rehashing this. He took his time, I'm in jail,
Speaker 1: wrote a fifty page manifesto of how he's going to
Speaker 1: do it now, and he is back trying to make
Speaker 1: this happen. So we might have another documentary on Fire
Speaker 1: Festival Part two as well.
Speaker 3: It's a scary word manifesto. I know that never really
Speaker 3: indicates no.
Speaker 1: It's it's not going to end well. But this ended well.
Speaker 3: I mean we're not walking through an eilish, I'll say that, or.
Speaker 1: A desert full of mud, but hey, reach out to us.
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