Speaker 1: Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.
Speaker 2: We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the
Speaker 2: vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.
Speaker 3: These are our stories.
Speaker 4: Done done, Yay, that's messed up.
Speaker 3: An SVU podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Lisa and I'm Kara, and this podcast
Speaker 1: we recap episodes of the iconic show Law and Orders
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: We recap crimes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we talk to a guest, sometimes we don't, but
Speaker 1: first we chit and chat hit chat.
Speaker 2: It's wild, like I do bring up SVU no matter
Speaker 2: where I am, and it's multiple times. It's like SVU
Speaker 2: and soul cycle and I really need to find something
Speaker 2: else to talk about.
Speaker 1: I know, I like my oh and dexter. My friend
Speaker 1: just went my friend just went to a sex party,
Speaker 1: and I go. So my understanding is, and my understanding
Speaker 1: is from Law and Order SVU, is that there are
Speaker 1: large playrooms and then there are smaller fuck rooms. And
Speaker 1: she's like, that's actually pretty accurate. I'm like, everything I
Speaker 1: know is from the multiple sex clubs I've gone to
Speaker 1: via Law and Order SVU.
Speaker 2: Well, I actually have a brush with the law. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you spoke to your friend Rachel. But
Speaker 2: our friend Liby did a fundraiser. She does it every
Speaker 2: year at Bellhouse and it's people bring tampons and sanitary
Speaker 2: like woman's products for shelters. And right now it's trying
Speaker 2: to get them into schools because I didn't know, but
Speaker 2: I guess there's a new law in New York that
Speaker 2: schools must provide sanitary care for students, but they don't
Speaker 2: have an increased budget.
Speaker 3: So now these schools are like kind of scrambling. So whatever.
Speaker 2: So afterwards, we walked to a bar and we're at
Speaker 2: the bar. Everyone you know, we're a bit, we're mostly
Speaker 2: a big group. It's a weekday night, so we're at
Speaker 2: the bar and you know the bar, it's Halliards and
Speaker 2: Julie and I are at the bar and we look
Speaker 2: over and there's just kind of a grubby look guy like,
Speaker 2: not to be too judgmental, but like just looked unsavory, okay,
Speaker 2: And he goes and sits right next to all of
Speaker 2: our friends, and I'm looking at him, and Julia goes, well,
Speaker 2: it could be someone's friend. I go, that's not anybody's friend.
Speaker 2: So she goes, let's grab our purses. So we grab
Speaker 2: our purses and live our lives. Next thing we know,
Speaker 2: a woman's bag was taken, an umbrella was thrown at
Speaker 2: our other friend.
Speaker 3: He was causing chaos.
Speaker 2: The bartender calls the cops on him because there's stuff
Speaker 2: I don't even see. Seven cops come, maybe eight, none
Speaker 2: of them white. Like it was a United Colors of
Speaker 2: Benetton ad.
Speaker 3: It was like set. We were all trying to like,
Speaker 3: fuck these cops.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, like we were so excited,
Speaker 2: and people kept looking at me being like, look at you, smile,
Speaker 2: you are thrilled. I go, I can't even believe we're
Speaker 2: in the litle bit all of all this. They've been
Speaker 2: looking for this guy all day. He's been going from
Speaker 2: bar to bar. The cops have been chasing him around
Speaker 2: the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You knew immediately, you knew immediately because so the Julia,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, maybe it's just a guy
Speaker 1: in a bad day, you know. And so then this
Speaker 1: is what's crazy.
Speaker 2: So we're giving information where like it says Yale on
Speaker 2: the T shirt, we're telling him everything that happened, what's missing, whatever.
Speaker 2: All the cops leave within three minutes. This guy's back,
Speaker 2: so that means these cops couldn't find him. His T
Speaker 2: shirt's now inside out, which means he heard us talking
Speaker 2: to the cops about the Yale.
Speaker 1: So that means he was nearby. Cops didn't take him.
Speaker 2: All of them leave, so he comes back and starts
Speaker 2: like lighting his lighter at us over and over because
Speaker 2: we're outside smoking weed obviously, and he goes, I got
Speaker 2: a brick, so we run inside. He throws a brick
Speaker 2: through the bar window, glass broken everywhere by the pool,
Speaker 2: saying look up, no, I guess he took a pool
Speaker 2: cubby on the bar, like, but this time he's outside
Speaker 2: through the brick or umbrella, he broke a window.
Speaker 1: The cops come back and like, that's that. But it's
Speaker 1: also like, he brew through a brick through the window
Speaker 1: of the bar that you were in, Yes, oh my
Speaker 1: fucking god.
Speaker 3: So then the bars under So then the cops came back.
Speaker 2: But it's like, why didn't one of you stay, like
Speaker 2: you've been looking from all day? Well, I could tell
Speaker 2: you how you lost him, like what? So they all
Speaker 2: left and then they all came back, and it's like,
Speaker 2: but you, why wasn't there one uni here or like
Speaker 2: why didn't you at least walk around the block.
Speaker 1: He clearly was.
Speaker 2: Listening us to us tell the cops, like he was
Speaker 2: wearing a Yale T shirt this and that, and then
Speaker 2: he comes back with his shirt inside up.
Speaker 1: In the time that you between you guys like them
Speaker 1: calling the cops and the cops showing up.
Speaker 3: This guy just kind of strolled away, right. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: think he got gone because he was taking stuff.
Speaker 2: He took people's stuff and was and threw an umbrella
Speaker 2: at Natasha the chef.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, not Natasha, yes Jesus.
Speaker 2: And then I was everyone just kept looking at me
Speaker 2: being like you're loving this. I go, yeah, to be
Speaker 2: in the middle of all this, and you know, and.
Speaker 1: Was this like last night or two nights ago? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting to talk. I've been waiting.
Speaker 2: God, I'm like waiting to talk about the brush with
Speaker 2: the law. And just like immediately like this guy doesn't blow.
Speaker 1: Now is that shit? That is fucking crazy? But you
Speaker 1: know how to clock them, you really do. I feel
Speaker 1: like you clock a psycho.
Speaker 3: From a mile away.
Speaker 1: But then also two guys a run out there like
Speaker 1: he's coming back. Like everyone we were like in it.
Speaker 1: We were all in it together. So yeah, it was
Speaker 1: quite exciting. But I feel like, did we go to
Speaker 1: another I don't think I went home early though. Yeah
Speaker 1: we kept. I mean the window was broken and we
Speaker 1: were still in there. Oh my god, yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: But it just shows the an effectiveness of police because
Speaker 2: it's like within minutes of them leaving, this happened. And
Speaker 2: so it's like one of you couldn't have stayed. I
Speaker 2: just don't get it. I just don't get how you're
Speaker 2: that bad.
Speaker 1: But also so New York for you guys to all
Speaker 1: just like carry on with a broken window and like
Speaker 1: a brick has just called through it. You're like, somebody
Speaker 1: clean up the glass. I have a martini to finish.
Speaker 1: The people playing pool continue to play pool like the
Speaker 1: with broken glass ships around them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was quite silly. It was quite silly.
Speaker 2: And then I do have a couple of celeb sightings
Speaker 2: for last night, so I do. It's been a big day,
Speaker 2: a big Okay, So I arrived at so our friend
Speaker 2: Ali mckofsky's birthday. She's gonna meet me late night at
Speaker 2: the cellar. You know, she's in town. So I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I see her, I'm walking towards her. Then there's someone
Speaker 2: I'm not really that into, but I say hi, and
Speaker 2: then I look and it's Adrian Grenier and your.
Speaker 3: Least favorite character from The Devilwaar's Prada.
Speaker 2: Well, not only that, he's very attractive, there's no two
Speaker 2: ways about it. Yeah, no charm and it got worse.
Speaker 2: So I just like didn't care because I didn't like
Speaker 2: the comedian he was with, so I immediately was like, well,
Speaker 2: this isn't the crew for me. And Adrian was mean
Speaker 2: to someone in my life that I so in my head,
Speaker 2: I'm immediately like I'm not fucking with this guy. But
Speaker 2: he is also so like I'm okay with the situation
Speaker 2: as well. But then he starts making jokes that were
Speaker 2: so bad, like Ali's like, hey, do you have gum?
Speaker 2: And he points to his gums and goes, I got
Speaker 2: a gum right there, and she goes, oh, you don't
Speaker 2: have any more?
Speaker 3: He goes right here my gum.
Speaker 2: Oh no, and I'm like so uncomfortable, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of getting into comedy. You know, amateurs are
Speaker 2: funnier than professionals.
Speaker 3: A lot.
Speaker 2: I feel like I can do it, and then continue
Speaker 2: to make horrible jokes. So then finally he talks about
Speaker 2: Ali as a farm, so I'm interested. So then I
Speaker 2: finally A'm like, oh my god, what kind of animals
Speaker 2: do you have? And he goes, well, my wife, and
Speaker 2: then I just stare and he's like.
Speaker 3: Well and lives. You know, you get it. It's a joke.
Speaker 2: And I just went and I go, I'll see you
Speaker 2: later Alli, and I went inside, and then she goes,
Speaker 2: I thought you were going up. I go, no, I
Speaker 2: just couldn't really be around I couldn't be around it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't be around it. And he made another bad joke.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm blocking it out of my head.
Speaker 2: But oh my god, I'm obsessed. I was just like,
Speaker 2: I'm going inside. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't, like what the fuck? But still like a
Speaker 1: super babe. It's kind of like though maybe he's kind
Speaker 1: of like the John Hamm character a Dirty Rock, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like he's kind said that and he never had
Speaker 1: to develop like real personality or jokes.
Speaker 2: So then I go downstairs to the other I'm at
Speaker 2: the seller. I get off stage. A server comes up
Speaker 2: to me, Greg and he goes, John Hamm is here
Speaker 2: losing his shit. No, he's obsessed. I go, oh great,
Speaker 2: you know love a celebri.
Speaker 3: Oh he saw you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, So then I you know, that's nice. But like,
Speaker 2: I'm living my life. So I leave. I'm almost home.
Speaker 2: I'm walking home. Shane's Horras texts me going, John Ham's
Speaker 2: looking for you.
Speaker 1: You gotta come back, double back, babe. I can't believe
Speaker 1: you left. I can't believe you left. You heard a
Speaker 1: celebrity was sniffing around like like likes your comedy, and
Speaker 1: you were like, I'm on a head home, Like what
Speaker 1: were you feeling that ill?
Speaker 3: Like, well, I don't understand. No, I didn't think about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was just like, oh I didn't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just didn't even think about it. So of course
Speaker 2: I come back. I'm like, I'm in a car, I'm coming.
Speaker 2: So I came back and I hung out a little
Speaker 2: bit with John Hamm and his wife, who had a
Speaker 2: terrible Bravo opinion.
Speaker 3: Who's John Ham's wife?
Speaker 2: She's beautiful, beautiful, and she said the two worst people
Speaker 2: in Bravo larsa. I can agree. And then Derinda and
Speaker 2: I go excuse me, I go. Ramona's word, she goes, no,
Speaker 2: I go. Ramona's a trumper who is the rudest person alive,
Speaker 2: like Derinda just has emotional damage and is a blackout
Speaker 2: drunk like that is different. But yeah, she thinks Direnda's
Speaker 2: like evil and that was really hard for me to hear. No,
Speaker 2: John am was just giving me compliments and I loved it.
Speaker 2: And then you know, I was acting and he's like,
Speaker 2: is this weird? I go no, I feel great being
Speaker 2: summoned by you to get compliments, and like, yeah.
Speaker 1: This is great. So he feels like he's like a
Speaker 1: guy that's really into comedy, doesn't he know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so he just did Doug Benson's I Love
Speaker 2: Movies at Grammercy and then they did dinner and then
Speaker 2: they just like walked in because they're famous and like
Speaker 2: to laugh.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fun. So dogs, No, dog wasn't there. I wish.
Speaker 2: But how funny that you mentioned John Hamm and that
Speaker 2: was the next celebsode I had crazy well because.
Speaker 1: You met because John ham is hot as hell, but
Speaker 1: I think actually has a good personality. Maybe he was
Speaker 1: dorky as a kid or something. I bet Adrian Grenier
Speaker 1: has been like a little heart throbbed since he was
Speaker 1: a child.
Speaker 3: Just kidding.
Speaker 1: You can't be a child heart throb but you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But he's just been like a hot
Speaker 1: guy as well. Then John emailed me. Oh, for those
Speaker 1: of you on the let our listening, she's showing me
Speaker 1: the notification on Gmail of an email from John Ham.
Speaker 3: What's emailing you about? Listen?
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later. I love that it's all positive.
Speaker 1: It's all positive.
Speaker 3: Who is his wife? Though? Now I'm like who?
Speaker 1: I forgot her names? I feel rude, But she was
Speaker 1: like really pretty and like fun. Well remember his what
Speaker 1: girlfriend that he was Jennifer Webb but they were never married?
Speaker 1: And then no, but I love her. I liked her movies.
Speaker 2: And they have one movie about like Amya, Rudolph Sin
Speaker 2: and a bunch of people where it's like different couples.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot what it's called Friends with Kids. I
Speaker 1: think it might be called oh wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: says she's been on Law and Order. Svew hold on
Speaker 1: kidding me, John Ham's wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes sense because I kept staring at
Speaker 2: her and I thought she was from America's Next top Model.
Speaker 2: I was like, but I'm like, that doesn't make sense
Speaker 2: time wise. I'm like, yeah, how do I know this woman?
Speaker 2: So she's an SVU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's in an episode. We got to look it up.
Speaker 1: But I'm dying to know what you and John Ham?
Speaker 1: How you and John Ham's Hey, you know what, maybe
Speaker 1: we'll double We'll do a lunch meet you. Marcia gayhearted? Wait,
Speaker 1: so she likes she hates Larsa and Derinda. That that
Speaker 1: is a wild take. Although I hate Lara, we can
Speaker 1: confront her for something. Yeah, Larsa's awful, but that is
Speaker 1: not Dirinda. Derinda would house you, Derinda would go out
Speaker 1: of your way. Deornda would be nice to your family.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like Laurena gets me during is a mean drunk.
Speaker 1: That's that's all we can say about Durinda. She said, jah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's not a mad person.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Wait, have you seen the documentary on Netflix called Unknown
Speaker 1: Number that everybody is fucking talking about everyone's talking about.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it, but I know that this story
Speaker 2: was huge, so I know what it's about.
Speaker 1: People. We talked about this and I go, no, this
Speaker 1: was the case. But we talked about it. I think
Speaker 1: because a few years ago I read the article in
Speaker 1: The Cut. There's a long article in the Cut about
Speaker 1: this happening, and the Cut was constantly.
Speaker 3: Like, even after I read it, they were feeding me this.
Speaker 1: Article as like a paid article to try to get
Speaker 1: me to like join or whatever subscribe, And I think
Speaker 1: I talked about it on the podcast maybe yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I just like woke up one day and my
Speaker 1: feeds were like filled with images of this woman.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this from?
Speaker 1: And then when I looked, I was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: because it's weird when you read an article about one
Speaker 1: of these things, you have like the victims and the
Speaker 1: people all in your head of like what they're going
Speaker 1: to look like, and like the mom is not what
Speaker 1: I thought she would look like, and so I was like,
Speaker 1: who is this woman everyone's posting?
Speaker 3: Is this somebody from like Love is Blind? And then
Speaker 3: it was like the mom from unknown number?
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to spoil it, but it's on Netflix,
Speaker 1: and yeah it does have a pretty wild twist. And
Speaker 1: I will say, like the whole time I was watching it,
Speaker 1: I don't know can I.
Speaker 3: Talk about it or like, is this bad?
Speaker 4: Am?
Speaker 1: I spoiling. I'm going to talk about this for two more.
Speaker 1: Many people know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you are on a meme, like the
Speaker 2: fact that this is even a surprise twist ending is
Speaker 2: very confusing because I mean maybe we're a little more
Speaker 2: in tune.
Speaker 1: But it's like this was a big article. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was around everywhere, but it was just to me.
Speaker 1: It's wild that the guilty party participated in the dock
Speaker 1: because I think they thought they were getting their story
Speaker 1: out there, but I think the doc made them look
Speaker 1: even worse.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's like I read somewhere that it's Munchausen
Speaker 2: by technology in a way. Yes, it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: she's obviously disordered and probably thinks she did nothing wrong
Speaker 2: and she's the victor.
Speaker 1: It's a classic narcissist traits.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She literally says, you know, we all do bad things,
Speaker 1: and like you've probably driven drunk and never got caught.
Speaker 3: I just got caught.
Speaker 1: It's like the fact that you're trying to equate somebody
Speaker 1: making a stupid mistake, like I don't condone driving.
Speaker 2: Does that happen with a friend in my past where
Speaker 2: I was like and then this happened, and that sucks
Speaker 2: and they're like, well, like, you've not done anything bad.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've been to jail. I don't think I'm Markedy.
Speaker 1: That's not Yeah, what you did is actually done lots
Speaker 1: of things. Why yeah, you're like, and it just said
Speaker 1: a lot about how she Also, I will say, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's spoiled at this point, like
Speaker 1: just keep fast forwarding. But like, I think that the
Speaker 1: documentary and the article a little bit are downplaying that
Speaker 1: she was actually obsessed with her daughter's boyfriend, Like I
Speaker 1: think he was a little bit Mary Kay Latourneaud also
Speaker 1: like I think they're trying to make it seem like
Speaker 1: it's just the technology she just got caught up in,
Speaker 1: like the the like the high school gossip of it all.
Speaker 1: But it's like she was volunteering to coach the guy's team,
Speaker 1: Like she was asking is he dating anyone new? Like
Speaker 1: after they broke up, Like the sexual shit she was
Speaker 1: writing to her daughter about her daughter's boyfriend was wild.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's like they were downplaying that this
Speaker 1: woman like wanted to fuck this teen boy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Interesting, I have to watch it. I have to watch it.
Speaker 2: You know, I've been in my Dexter hole that I'm
Speaker 2: out of. That's it's like you could watch it like
Speaker 2: it's quick, it's like easy, but I'm out of the
Speaker 2: Dexter hole. I've watched the finale three times. I could
Speaker 2: move on, and I've watched the whole series now again,
Speaker 2: from one through new Blood through resurrect Ivery. Watched my
Speaker 2: Gosh season again and you.
Speaker 3: Went all in.
Speaker 1: You did Baryl Girls, Trinity Killer, Ice Truck, like the
Speaker 1: whole thing, all.
Speaker 3: Of it, all of it.
Speaker 1: I did it all. It was like hard, like I
Speaker 1: remember having like a stomach ache watching that whole season.
Speaker 2: I think about the Barrel Girls season always. I think
Speaker 2: I must have said this on this podcast a lot
Speaker 2: of times, but whether I'm on stage or in the world,
Speaker 2: when I see like a group of men with this energy,
Speaker 2: I go they would kill girls in a barrel and
Speaker 2: say yeah, I'm like, these are barrel Girl men. And
Speaker 2: I'll ask her, I'm like, who's Stine Dexter And when
Speaker 2: I say it, they go, yeah, like that we talking about.
Speaker 1: It when we did on the episode where it was
Speaker 1: like the girl that was carving like uh things on
Speaker 1: the guy's chests, yes, because they all like attacked her
Speaker 1: at summer Camp because they're Barrel girls. Guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Barrel's like guys. I think about the movie
Speaker 2: promising young women. There's just h men that like they
Speaker 2: might have murdered a stripper and they got rid of
Speaker 2: the body. Yeah yeah, or like I just don't trust men.
Speaker 2: But anyways, but the finale was awesome. It's just like
Speaker 2: cool to see there. I can't wait for you to
Speaker 2: watch it, Kara. It really is so for the fans,
Speaker 2: and the end of this season of Resurrection is really
Speaker 2: kind of like a nod to the original finale.
Speaker 1: Everyone hate it. It's like their redo.
Speaker 2: Because it's kind of a cute thing where you feel
Speaker 2: like they're acknowledging, like they know everyone hated it and
Speaker 2: how bad it was, and this is kind of they
Speaker 2: fuck with it. They're they're really smart, and I just
Speaker 2: felt like it was for the fans. It's what they wanted,
Speaker 2: is what we wanted. And it's like I felt edge
Speaker 2: of my seat, then calm and then anticipation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna watch it like this week, this week
Speaker 1: and weekend, like I'm getting into it.
Speaker 3: It's like top of my list.
Speaker 1: I only watched the Unknown Number thing because I was
Speaker 1: with Jared, and he's not gonna watch Dexter with me?
Speaker 2: But wait, would you say, wait, are you gonna watch
Speaker 2: Did you watch Barbarian yet?
Speaker 3: That was part of your own not? Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 3: gonna watch that with him because.
Speaker 1: Spooky season is entering, so it's we're on the cusp
Speaker 1: of spoo. Rosie's already purchased her Halloween costume. It's September ninth.
Speaker 1: What is she a K pop demon hunter? She won't
Speaker 1: even watch that shit? Can you believe it?
Speaker 3: Like Oscar and I watched it last weekend. He loves it.
Speaker 1: Rosie watched five minutes of it with her best run
Speaker 1: over the summer and said, I don't like this.
Speaker 3: I don't think she likes that.
Speaker 1: It's like a little bit girly, even though the girls
Speaker 1: are bad asses.
Speaker 3: She's like, you know how, She's like against that stuff.
Speaker 1: So Oscar loved it and he wants to be one
Speaker 1: of the K pop girls for Halloween. But he's very
Speaker 1: wildly vacillating back and forth between ideas, so I'm letting
Speaker 1: him ruminate.
Speaker 3: Rosie fell in love with a.
Speaker 1: Stitch costume at Target and bought the Stitch costume and
Speaker 1: it has been putting it on every day after school
Speaker 1: and she's gonna be Stitch for Halloween.
Speaker 3: That's cute.
Speaker 2: She likes to wear like a head like a sweatsuit,
Speaker 2: a jumper, yeah, like a like basically, yeah, she likes
Speaker 2: to wear a Uni suit. I do have more celeb
Speaker 2: name drops, if that's part. Okay, So I shot a
Speaker 2: little thing this week, but I would say obsessed with
Speaker 2: Poppy lou Dynamic to watch a star again, like I can,
Speaker 2: I will do it. I will go to the end
Speaker 2: of the earth for this woman. Like she's so everything
Speaker 2: I could have ever wanted. And she had like such
Speaker 2: a cute dog. And then Adam Pally is like my
Speaker 2: new favorite person, obsessed like on like I was laughing
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 3: He's one of the.
Speaker 1: Funny happy people.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I had the best time and a
Speaker 2: shit talker, a shit talker, a gossip and fun so talented.
Speaker 2: I learned a lot and like I just left being like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're like the best.
Speaker 1: I saw gabriis the night after that, you told me
Speaker 1: that you were doing the thing that way, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Lisa just told me she's doing this
Speaker 1: thing with Pali and he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he was talking to me about how you
Speaker 1: guys made that Nutrition Is Life a Living hell at
Speaker 1: the show, and I was like, yeah, I heard about that.
Speaker 1: I was like, don't. Like, I'm sorry if you're a
Speaker 1: Nutrition is like, don't do not agree to a panel
Speaker 1: show with three comedians, like especially those two guys who
Speaker 1: have been like best friends for like decades and are
Speaker 1: like bit bit machines, you know, like.
Speaker 2: So funny honestly, like stand ups are funny, and I
Speaker 2: think I judge improvisers and I think they're like losers.
Speaker 2: But then when you're with someone that's like that good
Speaker 2: and funny and quick, and you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: like maybe I yeah, Well.
Speaker 1: Gabris was, and Gabris was on my show doing stand
Speaker 1: up because he does stand up too, but he was.
Speaker 3: Really he was so funny.
Speaker 1: He was telling we were we were chatting, but Pally
Speaker 1: was my sketch teacher like a million years ago.
Speaker 2: Well, and I also because of his watch What Happens Like,
Speaker 2: I don't I'd never met him until this summer.
Speaker 1: I just had a different version of him in my
Speaker 1: head too. I don't know he has like he loves
Speaker 1: his kids. I don't know I just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like very excited to have my couple of days.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I when I met Poppy at that party, I was
Speaker 1: like at this kid's party, I was like, do you
Speaker 1: want to be best friends?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: I love her, She's so great.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: When I got to work with a baby, they were
Speaker 1: twins and truly the baby a baby. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And I wasn't asking if you had twins, like you
Speaker 1: have a baby in the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam and I are married and we have the wins,
Speaker 2: but but you know, one baby at a time. But
Speaker 2: the twins are working. But this baby, I had to
Speaker 2: have the baby in a while and it just feels nice.
Speaker 2: But the baby like fell asleep on my body. I
Speaker 2: the baby truly was like side and then head on
Speaker 2: my shoulder and like knocked out like so like it
Speaker 2: was really cute holding the baby.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see mom Lisa in this project. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fun.
Speaker 2: I mean I just was like really happy I have
Speaker 2: met everyone, but especially the two of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really exciting. Oh, I love it.
Speaker 2: We do have to start, I guess. But I was
Speaker 2: the beginning of the school year. How's that beginning of
Speaker 2: the school year. You know, I'm VP of the BTA.
Speaker 1: Now it's really really stressful, but it's it's good. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just like a lot of stuff going on, a
Speaker 1: lot of meetings at the beginning of the year. But
Speaker 1: you know, the kids are doing great, their love they're
Speaker 1: at the same school together. Now, you know, I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm getting the same thing. The school is saying the
Speaker 1: same thing to me that every single summer camp said
Speaker 1: to me about Oscar. Any tips on how to handle Oscar?
Speaker 1: And I'm always like, not, really, you could tell him
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna get this thing that he wants
Speaker 1: to get. That's it. Like he is a bit of
Speaker 1: a wild child, you know. So I don't have any tips,
Speaker 1: but they would love to know. He is really funny though,
Speaker 1: He's so funny, Like the shit that comes out of
Speaker 1: that kid's mouth, it's like he's putting Rosie to shame.
Speaker 3: Like he's so fucking crazy and weird.
Speaker 1: He makes up lies constantly now and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: can I ask her about that?
Speaker 3: And he goes, no, don't.
Speaker 1: After he tells me some long ass story, I go, so,
Speaker 1: can I ask your teacher about that? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't ask her like he's such a liar. And his
Speaker 1: eyes like sparkle and light up when he's gonna tell
Speaker 1: me this long lie. I mean he knows, I know
Speaker 1: it's a lie. It's like there's a treehouse in the cabinet.
Speaker 1: You know. It's weird shit. But anyway, wild child, but
Speaker 1: we're doing good. We gotta figure we got to nail
Speaker 1: down his Halloween costumes soon. But everything's good with him,
Speaker 1: and that's that.
Speaker 3: We're bet. It's September birthday. How is your birthday?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Should we save that for the post mortem? Keep people guessing? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys have to listen to the whole episodecause we're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about Lisa's birthday and the post mortum.
Speaker 1: Sorry about it. This is how we lock people in.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, sorry, we didn't get Sharon Stone, so yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't even know.
Speaker 2: They don't even know what episode we're doing it. Whatever,
Speaker 2: there's no guest, there's no guest. I'll talk about my birthday,
Speaker 2: no guest.
Speaker 1: But before we start, check out Lisa's tour dates. That's
Speaker 1: you can always find that in like the link in
Speaker 1: her bio on instat but also that's messed up live
Speaker 1: dot com that has a link to all her tickets.
Speaker 1: Lisa is going to be on an amazing show that
Speaker 1: I'm hosting in New York City on Sunday, September twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: It's a five o'clock show, doors at four, shows at five.
Speaker 1: This is a nice little Sunday evening early to bed situation.
Speaker 1: And it's Lisa, It's Jay Jorden, Emma Willman, Jake Cornell,
Speaker 1: Josh Sharp. It's a great lineup and it's benefit for
Speaker 1: the Triangle Community Center, which is an LGBTQ organization in Connecticut.
Speaker 3: And it's in memory of my friend Jed who passed.
Speaker 1: So I hope that those of you that joined us
Speaker 1: at the Bell House in August will come out and
Speaker 1: see me host and Lisa do some stand up. And
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great night. And I
Speaker 1: think that's that. Let's get to the episode. Okay, today
Speaker 1: we are doing the episode Wanna Be and I Want
Speaker 1: to Be Love. Yeah, I'm like, I cannot be, Like
Speaker 1: if you want to be a cop? Like, this episode
Speaker 1: is so crazy. My Friends season eleven, episode twenty three.
Speaker 1: This Baby came out in May of twenty ten. I
Speaker 1: remembered this episode very well. I've seen him many times,
Speaker 1: except the very end. I was like, wait, that's the end,
Speaker 1: so you know, the show always is surprising me, dude.
Speaker 2: I had the same feeling like it felt like it
Speaker 2: went by so fast for an episode where I was like, whoa,
Speaker 2: that's the it's.
Speaker 1: I remember, like line, I remember so many specifics, like
Speaker 1: with Sharon Stone. I was like, yes, I've seen this,
Speaker 1: I know this happens. And then we got to the end.
Speaker 3: I was like, hold on, whoa.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but it's a creepy one for sure, very creepy.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So we open up on a snake slithering around and
Speaker 1: then we see this kid's like lollipop and basically we
Speaker 1: pull out and we're in front of like an old
Speaker 1: school stereo like stereo store wall of TVs, you know,
Speaker 1: like in an electronic store.
Speaker 3: It's like the forty year old virgin in here, like
Speaker 3: they're watching all the.
Speaker 1: TVs and the little girl is like, ooh, a snake
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then she's trying to ask the guy
Speaker 1: who works there, like what's the difference between this TV
Speaker 1: and this TV? And he's jorking out and then an
Speaker 1: announcement says, attention female shoppers, please head to the TV
Speaker 1: department a special giveaway. And I'm like, immediately, attention female
Speaker 1: shoppers is bizarre, Like I've never that's so weird, Like
Speaker 1: I don't even care if it's a tampon giveaway at
Speaker 1: like Target, You're just gonna say attention shoppers. Like, and
Speaker 1: the sales guy like has no idea what's going on.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've said attention female shoppers has never gone
Speaker 1: anywhere good, and it's not going to start today.
Speaker 3: So this sales guy's like, let me go check on this.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly the little girl is watching someone pull
Speaker 1: their pants down on TV, and on all the screens
Speaker 1: we're seeing some a guy pull his pants down, and
Speaker 1: you know, we don't actually see it because it's on NBC,
Speaker 1: but like the guy's allegedly jerking off, and then the
Speaker 1: sale guy screams, got it off. So pretty pretty wild opening.
Speaker 1: And now we're at the precinct with the gang in
Speaker 1: the huddle. This guy plugged a camera into the feed
Speaker 1: and they and then that's like and they got his
Speaker 1: whole process on camera, and Munch goes ironically, he was
Speaker 1: in the handheld devices aisle, and you know you got
Speaker 1: to give it up for the jokes. His face is
Speaker 1: hidden the guy, but he met a flash. Now we've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of new ones. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: I miss munch. Yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. So this
Speaker 1: guy's face is hidden, but he matches a flasher who's
Speaker 1: been targeting young girls around the city and he has
Speaker 1: a birthmark on his lower abdomen with a quote freaky
Speaker 1: resemblance to Florida. And another cop is like, you pulled
Speaker 1: in cops from five different precincts for a weenie Wagon
Speaker 1: task force, and it's like plot twist that actually what
Speaker 1: we saw.
Speaker 3: At the beginning was two months earlier.
Speaker 1: So since that video happened, this guy has escalated and
Speaker 1: three like teen girls have been raped in Central Park,
Speaker 1: not even teens, Colleen Johnson eleven, Tina Harper fifteen, Nicole
Speaker 1: Goshgarian twelve. They all they rape started four weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and they all happen on Sunday afternoons. So now it's
Speaker 1: Sunday and they're planning to grab this guy in such
Speaker 1: a park before he grabs his next victim. So now
Speaker 1: in the park, Sabler's got his Dwayne reed sunglasses on,
Speaker 1: and they're seeing what he can spy with his little eye,
Speaker 1: like they're all looking, seeing what they see. He gets
Speaker 1: a radio from a cop who's like, I got a
Speaker 1: suspect and I'm in pursuit, and we see this young
Speaker 1: cop chasing a dude.
Speaker 3: But also the cop.
Speaker 1: Drops his hat and then stops and considers going back
Speaker 1: for it, and I'm like, no, you keep running, and
Speaker 1: the chase is on. It's honestly a beautiful day in
Speaker 1: the park. It's it's sad that we're chasing a rapist
Speaker 1: because it's gorgeous. There's horse drawn carriages, which I know
Speaker 1: are problematic, but it's a very picturesque day in Central Park.
Speaker 1: And finally this cop who looks like a full teen
Speaker 1: grabs the guy, brings him down, and then as the
Speaker 1: kid's calling in the location, the purp breaks free and
Speaker 1: seems to be trying to wrestle for the gun, and
Speaker 1: so Ben and his stabler are running, radying for help
Speaker 1: and going Officer missing, and then that's the credits. So
Speaker 1: a pretty juicy opening scene for the cold open, considering
Speaker 1: that at the top of act one we just see
Speaker 1: the team cop bringing the purp towards Benson and Stabler,
Speaker 1: so all that tension it's gone.
Speaker 3: He's fine, he got the Purp. We're good and everything's
Speaker 3: under control.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I tried to get away from me,
Speaker 1: but it's all under control now, and Stabler's like, good job,
Speaker 1: Officer Fletcher.
Speaker 3: And the Purp is like, why are you arresting me?
Speaker 1: And they're like for a rape in progress and he's like,
Speaker 1: this guy, I was just asking for the time when
Speaker 1: this cop came over and he sexually assaulted me. And
Speaker 1: then we cut to the teen girl who was the
Speaker 1: one the alleged victim in this situation. She's like, I
Speaker 1: was just checking my watch to give the guy the
Speaker 1: time when this cop came over and told the guy
Speaker 1: to drop his pants. It was really weird, and I
Speaker 1: have to agree that would be very weird. She says.
Speaker 1: The cop pulled the guy's pants down and that's when
Speaker 1: he took off. So back at the scene with teen cop,
Speaker 1: he's showing them look, it's a box cutter and duct
Speaker 1: tape and he goes total rape kit like and he's grinning.
Speaker 3: It's very wild.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, you don't need to be so excited
Speaker 1: that you found a rape kit, and he's but you
Speaker 1: can tell something's off with this guy with this cop,
Speaker 1: and the purp is like, it's just a utility pack,
Speaker 1: and Stabler's telling teen Cop, okay, take this in, maintain
Speaker 1: chain of custody, don't forget to bag and tag it
Speaker 1: when you get back to the President Precinct. And then
Speaker 1: teen cop is like it's him, I promise, and he
Speaker 1: starts going for the guy's pants again and like he's
Speaker 1: trying to just show them the birthmark, and Stabler's like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing and Lives like, yeah, maybe we
Speaker 1: don't strip strip search this man in public, Like that's
Speaker 1: not part of what we do. So now we're in
Speaker 1: very dark cevent room bars and Stabler has a camera
Speaker 1: and is photographing this guy's midsection. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever seen Stabler photograph a body before, but here we are,
Speaker 1: and sure enough he has the weird Florida birthmark. So
Speaker 1: then the guy just kind of shoves his shirt down
Speaker 1: kind of it looked to me like he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: get away from me, and then liv goes, WHOA, we
Speaker 1: don't need to see anything south of key West, and
Speaker 1: they both keep going keep it in your pants and
Speaker 1: I'm like, it does not look like he's about to
Speaker 1: flash you, Like, it looked like he was just like
Speaker 1: putting his shirt down. But you know, they do. They
Speaker 1: do stuff like this all the time. Maybe the take
Speaker 1: where he was actually trying to reach for his junk
Speaker 1: didn't get picked. Wayne Hankett is this guy's name. Hanktt
Speaker 1: sounds too close to Yankett for a guy that's going
Speaker 1: around flashing and chaking in front of other people. But
Speaker 1: when they ask him if he's a flasher, he's just like,
Speaker 1: it just kind of fell out, okay. So they show
Speaker 1: him the match of the electronic store flasher's birthmark and
Speaker 1: the picture Stable just took of him and they're an
Speaker 1: exact match, and liv says, well, you know what, babe,
Speaker 1: birthmarks are like fingerprints, No two are alike, which I
Speaker 1: googled and it says that's not exactly true, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to get into that. They're like, well, it's
Speaker 1: too bad we didn't catch you when you were just
Speaker 1: a flasher before you started escalating to rape.
Speaker 3: And he's like, there's nothing wrong with me. I didn't
Speaker 3: do anything.
Speaker 1: And then this actor's name is Rafael Sabarge and he
Speaker 1: was Jimmy Crickett in Once upon a Time, which is
Speaker 1: a show I've never even had the smallest urge to watch,
Speaker 1: but I know people liked it. They're telling him you've
Speaker 1: got low self esteem inadequacy, like you had to perform
Speaker 1: lude acts on little girls to get off on the reaction,
Speaker 1: and then they when they laugh at you, they emasculate you.
Speaker 3: And he's like, no one laughed at me, Like you
Speaker 3: are kind of.
Speaker 1: Getting this idea here that this guy maybe didn't do anything,
Speaker 1: like he doesn't act like a lot of other purpse do.
Speaker 1: And liv shows a picture of Colleen and is like,
Speaker 1: she called you lame and laughed in your face. So
Speaker 1: you showed her, but she got away before you finished,
Speaker 1: and the next time you cameed. So now, Fletcher, the
Speaker 1: teen cop, is in Craigan's office giving the rape toolkit
Speaker 1: that he can't stop talking about in and Craigan's like,
Speaker 1: great job, I'll write you a rack.
Speaker 3: Who's your COO?
Speaker 1: And He's like, I'm out of the two seven And
Speaker 1: Craigan's like, oh, that's my old precinct.
Speaker 3: I'll put in a word with Van Buren.
Speaker 1: Craigan says, taking a serial rapist off the street can
Speaker 1: really fast track careers. Keep it up Champ and Fletcher
Speaker 1: leaves but forgets the rape toolkit and Craigan's like, don't
Speaker 1: forget to bag it and tag it.
Speaker 3: Enjoy the paperwork.
Speaker 1: And then Fletcher is at a typewriter unable to use
Speaker 1: it correctly, when Finn and Munch approach and the three
Speaker 1: of them have this like cute little combo about how
Speaker 1: typewriters are outdated and how much is like old as
Speaker 1: a dinosaur, And after that's all wrapped up, they tell him, well,
Speaker 1: we interview the teen girl and she says, Hank it
Speaker 1: never touched or threatened her and never had a knife out,
Speaker 1: and he's like all defensive. He's like, what was I
Speaker 1: supposed to wait for him to attack her? And Finn's like, relax,
Speaker 1: he fit the profile, she fit the target.
Speaker 3: The bust is good. Just like walk us through what happened.
Speaker 1: So now we cut back to interrogation with Wayne and
Speaker 1: his stabler are still trying to wrangle a confession out
Speaker 1: of this guy while Joe Marlow aka Sharon Stone watches
Speaker 1: him through the glass. I believe Joe Marlow was in four,
Speaker 1: maybe five episodes of the show. In this arc as
Speaker 1: the Ada, they tell him all three girls are on
Speaker 1: their way here to id you, and Wayne starts crying
Speaker 1: and Stabler's like, are you evil or are you sick?
Speaker 1: And like say, Sharon Stone's watching this whole thing, going
Speaker 1: like get him Stabler okay, Like she's like she's kind
Speaker 1: of like narrating it. And then Wayne says, I told
Speaker 1: my dad there was something wrong with me and I
Speaker 1: needed help, but he didn't want.
Speaker 3: To hear it.
Speaker 1: And Marlow goes, Oh, daddy issues, and then Finn pops
Speaker 1: in to let her know there might be a problem
Speaker 1: with the case and she looks pissed. Marlow goes to
Speaker 1: talk to Fletcher and he's still at the typewriter and
Speaker 1: she's like, you're just a kid, and he's like, uh, ma'am,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty two. And then she I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I guess you could be in the police when you're
Speaker 1: twenty two. It just feels like, I guess the police
Speaker 1: academy's like six months long. She introduces herself and heaps
Speaker 1: more praise on him for catching this guy, and then
Speaker 1: she smacks him upside the back of the head because there's.
Speaker 2: No hr at Svu baby, Like, I want to see
Speaker 2: her and Sonya Paxton hanging out. Those are some broads
Speaker 2: I would like to see chilling because they're both maniacs.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, that would be so fun.
Speaker 1: And he's like, what's that for? And she's like, for
Speaker 1: being an idiot, you didn't learn basic search procedures at
Speaker 1: the academy. She's like, he declined to show you the birthmark.
Speaker 1: You should have brought him in for questioning. You don't
Speaker 1: search him against his will. That's a violation of his
Speaker 1: Fourth Amendment rights against search and seizure by pantsing him.
Speaker 1: Which pantsing like really brings me back, Like that was
Speaker 1: just a constant fear of getting pants back when I
Speaker 1: was a child and I pants my brother one time
Speaker 1: as a joke in front of his friends, and I
Speaker 1: really regret it, Fletcher said.
Speaker 3: The guy went to.
Speaker 1: Run I love the pantsing pantsing people I used to
Speaker 1: It was like, I loved it. I think that my
Speaker 1: brother one time in the underwear came down to his
Speaker 1: boxers came down, and I didn't mean for that to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I felt really bad, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to just be pantsing, you know, but whatever,
Speaker 1: are the kids still panting?
Speaker 3: I hope not.
Speaker 1: It feel like I don't very bad. I used so
Speaker 1: also like, well, this was swim team and we were
Speaker 1: all good at it.
Speaker 2: But like I liked pushing people in the pool too,
Speaker 2: But I would never do that now, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm setting I happened forever, but like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: you're not that smart.
Speaker 1: I'm also extremely against shoving the wedding cake in your
Speaker 1: spouse's face.
Speaker 3: And that's a bit hot topic on the internet. I
Speaker 3: want to kill people that do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there are stories online where it's like that
Speaker 2: happened to a woman and she left her wedding and
Speaker 2: filed for an omit the next day.
Speaker 1: It's so disrespectful, Like it's so gross. I hate it,
Speaker 1: especially if someone said no, yeah, if you talk about it,
Speaker 1: you're like, it'll be cute. Let's shove it in each
Speaker 1: other's face. And I see people do it a little
Speaker 1: bit where they just get it on the lips a
Speaker 1: little bit. You're ruining someone's makeup job like that they got.
Speaker 1: I hate it. So I've seen horrible ones. Yeah it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Fletcher's like No, what happened was the guy
Speaker 1: went to run and I grabbed him by his waistband,
Speaker 1: and that's when I saw the birthmark. So Marlow goes, no,
Speaker 1: the girl in the park says, you pulled his pants
Speaker 1: down and then he ran, and Fletcher's like, it happened
Speaker 1: so fast, it was so confusing, and Joe's like, well, great,
Speaker 1: that's gonna play great in court, you fucking dumbass. And
Speaker 1: then Fletcher insists, no, he ran, and that gave me
Speaker 1: probable cause to search him. So Marlow's telling Craigan that
Speaker 1: it's all fruit of the poisonous tree, which is a
Speaker 1: phrase I really love. Live and Elliott have been grilling
Speaker 1: this guy for hours based on an arrest, which isn't
Speaker 1: any good, and any half assed defense attorney is going
Speaker 1: to get this whole thing thrown out.
Speaker 3: So they go talk to Fletcher.
Speaker 1: But done, done, he's gone, and he left the rape
Speaker 1: toolkit that he couldn't shut up about, just sitting right
Speaker 1: there at the typewriter, which breaks chain of custody. So
Speaker 1: now that's out, So like it's like, Wow, who would
Speaker 1: have thought a twenty two year old would be unqualified
Speaker 1: to be a cop?
Speaker 3: But this kid is nowhere to be found.
Speaker 1: We can't find him, and Craigan gets off the phone
Speaker 1: with the two seven and done done again. Van Buren
Speaker 1: didn't loan us this kid. He's not from that precinct.
Speaker 1: Where the hell did this kid come from? And Craigan goes,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a cop, and that's a cut
Speaker 1: to commercial baby at the top of AAC two. They're
Speaker 1: running Fletcher's prints and he is not a cop. Because
Speaker 1: all the cops get be interprinted, they're in the system.
Speaker 1: Marlow says, the press is gonna wet their pants over this.
Speaker 1: How did all these cops not recognize this impostor? And
Speaker 1: it's like it is a five precinct tag task force,
Speaker 1: like they all probably think he's with someone else's, you know.
Speaker 1: But liv points out, hey, Fletcher not being a cop
Speaker 1: is good news. It gets all the evidence back in.
Speaker 1: Search and seizure laws don't apply to civilians. We can
Speaker 1: just walk around like everybody that's a civilian can just
Speaker 1: walk around searching and season seeing each other whenever they want.
Speaker 3: So this might work out. But we got to find
Speaker 3: the kid.
Speaker 1: Because if we listed as a citizen's arrest, we need
Speaker 1: a signature within twenty four hours of the guy getting
Speaker 1: arrested and we've got eight hours left on the clock,
Speaker 1: and this is, I know, something you don't love. But
Speaker 1: this turns into a bit of a countdown episode for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: So I hate a countdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we did count When we did, you were like,
Speaker 1: I hate these episodes where we're against the clock and
Speaker 1: there's a countdown.
Speaker 3: But maybe you've changed your mind. People change, I know.
Speaker 3: I hate the ones. Wait, which ones countdown? Which ones?
Speaker 1: Count? Well? Countdown is the one where it's a little
Speaker 1: girl's birthday party, Remember what we talked?
Speaker 3: I love that one.
Speaker 1: And then there's the other, the one where we talk
Speaker 1: to not Julie Bowen Andrea Bowen. Sorry we didn't imagine
Speaker 1: we got Julie bow when I forgot.
Speaker 3: That sucks.
Speaker 2: I also want to say that no Countdown's one of
Speaker 2: my favorite episodes, so that can't be real.
Speaker 1: No One.
Speaker 3: He was a man hunt, wasn't it? The one where
Speaker 3: the guy is like a.
Speaker 1: Serial killer and he's about to go to get executed
Speaker 1: and there's like twenty four hours till his execution and
Speaker 1: they're counting down like that one. I hate. I hate
Speaker 1: that one. I don't know why But I do hate
Speaker 1: that one with them, the death row of it all.
Speaker 1: I mean, the countdown clock definitely ratchets up the oh
Speaker 1: my god, the woman's in remember signature?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 1: Or what's the one where the guy has the old
Speaker 1: lady and the thing with the countdown of how much
Speaker 1: oxygen she has? Oh?
Speaker 3: That one is That One's a lot of games. That
Speaker 3: one's a lot of game.
Speaker 1: But that's the Olivia Benson spelled back Olivia spelled backwards.
Speaker 3: And oh, I know it's not Ristian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's called but you're I don't think
Speaker 2: it's the Olivia backwards either that you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's the one where we talk to the old lady
Speaker 1: who was in the casket, I know, and the guy
Speaker 1: with the glasses and he wanted to be he was
Speaker 1: pretending it was copycat or something.
Speaker 2: I also, I do want to add, just because you
Speaker 2: mentioned Julie Bowen, I Eric stone Street is the takeaway
Speaker 2: like Superstar of Dexter Resurrection. I would say he's so
Speaker 2: good in it that he's so funny and dark but
Speaker 2: like silly in.
Speaker 1: This dark universe. I don't know, he like Nail, He's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. Interviews are fun too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've been watching the Our Resurrection podcast that
Speaker 1: Jamie Chung has been hosting. Jared went to Jared went
Speaker 1: to Comic Con in San Diego and got like a
Speaker 1: badge and had Dexter on it. And Kaylinn's like, where
Speaker 1: did he get this? What did he did he get
Speaker 1: to go to something? I was like, no, it's just
Speaker 1: from comic Con, you know, I have that badge. Oh
Speaker 1: but I got an autographed by him. I waited for
Speaker 1: him at the stage door. But this one's a Dexter
Speaker 1: Resurrection badge.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't work in the police depart Is it.
Speaker 1: Like his, like Jared's badge, Like Jared's badge has Dexter
Speaker 1: on it as a homo?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like not the same. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 1: Back to the episode that we were just talking about.
Speaker 1: It's Wrath is the episode with a Vela. You're right,
Speaker 1: Rath is the one with like the puzzles and the
Speaker 1: Olivias bell back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we accidentally did it live in Columbia Cleveland,
Speaker 2: in Cleveland and it was a disaster and it was
Speaker 2: not funny and it was like a dead family in
Speaker 2: the woods.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you're right, I am conflating Wrath with Scavenger, which
Speaker 1: is Scavenger is the one where the guy buries the
Speaker 1: woman alive with the oxygen and there's a timer, and
Speaker 1: Wrath is the episode that we erroneously did live at
Speaker 1: a Cleveland show, and really, I think the audience thought
Speaker 1: this is maybe a little too dark for a Thursday night,
Speaker 1: you know. Okay, So anyway, there's a countdown. We've got
Speaker 1: eight hours to get a signature. We've got to find
Speaker 1: this fucking fake cop who's like in the wind right.
Speaker 1: So one clue that they have is that the hat
Speaker 1: that he dropped that he almost went back for while
Speaker 1: he was chasing a rapist, someone found it in the
Speaker 1: park and it's from Markham Uniforms and Guns. So Munch
Speaker 1: and Finn bust into Markham's shop, accusing this guy of
Speaker 1: scamming people after nine to eleven by selling homemade, crappy
Speaker 1: morning bands. And he's like, I don't even make any
Speaker 1: money from that, Like he's like he doesn't even regret
Speaker 1: doing it. He's like, I regret that I didn't make
Speaker 1: it actually turn a profit. And they're like, you got
Speaker 1: forty thousand cops as your customers, why are you selling
Speaker 1: to civilians. And it's like a guy that's making fake
Speaker 1: nine eleven armbands, he wants forty thousand and one, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't know why you're
Speaker 1: asking this guy that, and he swears, no, I did it.
Speaker 3: I don't sell the civilians.
Speaker 1: And then they flashed a picture of the guy and
Speaker 1: they're like, you sold this kid a uniform and a gun.
Speaker 1: And Markham's like, hold on, maybe the uniform, maybe the gear,
Speaker 1: but no way a gun without a background check. So
Speaker 1: he has one principle. This man, He's like, this kid
Speaker 1: paid cash, he looked right, he sounded right, he had
Speaker 1: the haircut.
Speaker 3: That's literally fake it, so you make it.
Speaker 1: That's like we're we're in the age of the scammer
Speaker 1: right now, but even this episode is from fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: You can walk into if you walk into a place
Speaker 1: looking and acting the part. Look at that guy we
Speaker 1: just covered acted like a fucking Rockefeller, married a millionaire.
Speaker 1: He was doing it for decades if you just know
Speaker 1: how to act and sound right, and this guy did it.
Speaker 1: Philp fooled the guy that sells guns and hats, so
Speaker 1: they checked to see if he joined the police department,
Speaker 1: Like but there's no record of it, like of like
Speaker 1: this guy doing it and like maybe he dropped out,
Speaker 1: maybe he never made it past the exam.
Speaker 3: And Stapler's Stabler, Stapler, I just said, Stapler.
Speaker 2: Stabler's like, wait, do you still have that amazing art
Speaker 2: someone made us of like Stablers, but but as a
Speaker 2: Stabler it was in Charlotte or.
Speaker 3: I gotta find it. I probably bet I gave it
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 1: If I didn't give it to.
Speaker 3: You, then I put it at the studio. I think
Speaker 3: it's that exactly right, because I put it. I loved it.
Speaker 4: God.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Stabler's like, well, you know, he might not have
Speaker 1: had to have taken the exam or whatever. There's other
Speaker 1: ways you can learn about cap cop shit than the academy,
Speaker 1: you know, and Munch says, yeah, I post on all
Speaker 1: these LEO sites.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what that is.
Speaker 1: And he goes and I get all these holster sniffers
Speaker 1: who think they know more than me. I mean, holster
Speaker 1: sniffer is wild. It's like that's people that want to
Speaker 1: be cops or want to fuck cop like chuckle fuckers. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Finn goes, if any of them talk less than you
Speaker 1: have them give me a call. And that is like
Speaker 1: what this show is fucking missing. None of these guys
Speaker 1: tease each other anymore. I hope this new show runner
Speaker 1: was season twenty seven, is gonna like introduce Bruno, the
Speaker 1: guy Kevin Kane. He's a great comedian. Let's do a
Speaker 1: little bit of like you would, a little I don't know,
Speaker 1: they don't have to be piercing jokes, but a little shade,
Speaker 1: a little reading, you know what I mean. Like that's
Speaker 1: what used to make this show fun. It's so deadly
Speaker 1: serious now. The joke is like telling that little girl,
Speaker 1: who's the girl that left great It was earnamed Grace
Speaker 1: something I don't know, the one you didn't like, like
Speaker 1: being like, what do you like my little sister.
Speaker 3: That's like that's like as far as a joke goes.
Speaker 1: Now, like there's no jokes on the show anymore, and
Speaker 1: they need to bring them back. And that's the end
Speaker 1: of my ted talk. Okay, we're at five hours now.
Speaker 1: Somehow it's taken three hours to go to this uniform
Speaker 1: shop and we've lost three hours. So then lives going
Speaker 1: through the system and finds some random white guy named
Speaker 1: Phil Fletcher, and it's like kind of looks like our guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe his relative. Not a close enough match for me,
Speaker 1: but we're going with it. So now we're at this
Speaker 1: Fletcher guy's place in Brooklyn and he goes, I don't
Speaker 1: know he could be related to me. My cop father,
Speaker 1: the one who made me take the stupid exam, only
Speaker 1: talk to two of his brothers.
Speaker 3: I got tons of cousins I never seen.
Speaker 1: And then he's like, hey, pop, lady policeman, this guy's
Speaker 1: are really doing it with the accent work.
Speaker 3: It's really really happening.
Speaker 1: And then the dad comes like waddling out, this former
Speaker 1: cop and he hurt himself doing something and he's not related.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm not related to that kid, but
Speaker 1: I never forget a face. I know that kid from McGinty's,
Speaker 1: and Live knows it immediately. It's a cop bar on
Speaker 1: Third Avenue. So she takes off. Now we're at McGuinty's
Speaker 1: and Stabler is again some gentle ribbing.
Speaker 3: It's fun.
Speaker 1: He starts ribbing this cop named Hann again about how
Speaker 1: he's boozing so early in the day. Hanna again at mcguinea's. Okay,
Speaker 1: hand again at McGinty's baby, and he goes, bite me
Speaker 1: stable or I just got off the late tour and
Speaker 1: they're like, well it was four hours ago, but whatever,
Speaker 1: we need your help.
Speaker 3: So I guess we won't bring up your alcoholism.
Speaker 1: And so they show him the photo and he goes,
Speaker 1: not the menace, And I love how this guy has
Speaker 1: a has a nickname. I bet you they call him
Speaker 1: Dennis the Menace because he looks like a little kid.
Speaker 1: But they cut that because they're just calling him the menace.
Speaker 1: He's like, his name's Brad something. Never trust a non
Speaker 1: drinker in a bar. This kid picks up tabs, he
Speaker 1: pumps us for stories. He's a total wannabe and you
Speaker 1: need to drink because that's the title of the episode,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a cop.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So he says he'll make some calls and try to
Speaker 1: find out more about this kid, but it's like, we
Speaker 1: have five hours?
Speaker 3: Are you calling from the bar? What are we doing
Speaker 3: at the precinct.
Speaker 1: They're breaking the news to Marlowe and she's like, I
Speaker 1: cannot believe you guys cannot find one man in New
Speaker 1: York City, a city of millions, in eight hours. And
Speaker 1: she's freaking out because the three rape victims are all
Speaker 1: on their way. They're all there, they're all there at
Speaker 1: the precinct with their parents, and she's like, I just
Speaker 1: don't know if I should go through with the lineup,
Speaker 1: and she's very shook about these little girls. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody that comes into SFU has to get used to
Speaker 1: the live victim element. And then she's like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm going through with the lineup. Don't let me down.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, they've already spent most of the
Speaker 1: hours and they haven't found much. But in the lineups,
Speaker 1: the first girl, Id's Wayne, and the second girl I
Speaker 1: d's him with like a question mark.
Speaker 3: She's like number two.
Speaker 1: And then the third girl I ds him as well
Speaker 1: and goes, I know it's him, and so the last
Speaker 1: girl is like, I want to The last girl's mom
Speaker 1: says she wants to thank the officer that caught him,
Speaker 1: but he's not there, and he's also not an officer,
Speaker 1: so they're like, he'll be here soon. So anyway, Marlow
Speaker 1: is back on Benson and Stabler's asses. They've got three
Speaker 1: hours and two of the girls have now positively idd
Speaker 1: this guy. All they have is a first name, and
Speaker 1: it's not helping them earlier they had said, let's go
Speaker 1: to the press, and she's like, there won't be enough time.
Speaker 1: Now that there's three hours left, She's like, let's go
Speaker 1: to the press and they're like yeah, but it won't
Speaker 1: hit the news until we have to release hank It.
Speaker 1: And Stabler's like, I'm gonna go camp outside that bar
Speaker 1: waiting for this kid to show up, and Marlow's like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I miss our stakeouts. And I forgot that Stabler and
Speaker 1: Marlowe were partners when she was a cop, so I
Speaker 1: guess got that too. In this universe, Stabler only gets
Speaker 1: paired with absolute knockouts, Like he only gets paired with
Speaker 1: like top percentage hot women, like that's in his contract.
Speaker 3: He's like, I will join us view, but you know,
Speaker 3: I think we've met.
Speaker 1: We've met one male cop partner of his in the past,
Speaker 1: some guy, but the rest.
Speaker 3: Something wrong, right, Yeah, and now it's just babe after babes.
Speaker 1: So that's so funny that shared Stones's character was a cop,
Speaker 1: Like that's a CORESI track, like most of the other
Speaker 1: Adas were not cops. First. Anyway, lives on the phone
Speaker 1: and it's Hannigan calling from the bar saying he found
Speaker 1: someone who knows Fletcher. So now they're at the NYPD
Speaker 1: Explorer's cleanup site in Harlem and this is a real thing,
Speaker 1: the ny Explorers. The guy in the crime was an explorer. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: it's real.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what this was. But it's basically cop
Speaker 3: summer camp.
Speaker 1: Like from the website, it says it provides young men
Speaker 1: and women from the city's diverse communities with an introduction
Speaker 1: to a career law enforcement or a related field for cops.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's birthright for cops. And it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: fourteen to twenty ages. So they ask this guy who's
Speaker 1: like the supervisor, about Brad Fletcher, and they're like, you're
Speaker 1: supposed to take at risk kids and point them in
Speaker 1: the right direction, not turn them into delusional zealots. And
Speaker 1: they're like the guy's like, yeah, but Brad's never been
Speaker 1: in trouble, Like he signed up when he was fourteen
Speaker 1: with his eyes set on joining the like the police department.
Speaker 1: And the guy's like, yeah, I'm still in touch with him.
Speaker 1: He's still an explorer. And they're like, wait, what I
Speaker 1: thought the cutoff was twenty And the guy's like, how
Speaker 1: old do you think he is cut to an all
Speaker 1: boys prep school.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, a bunch of boys and blazers coming out.
Speaker 1: It is pretty wild, Like what is the profile of
Speaker 1: this boy who's like a rich prep school boy and
Speaker 1: is like I want to be a cop?
Speaker 3: Like I don't like that.
Speaker 1: You know, like your parents have probably been telling you
Speaker 1: forever to like be a lawyer, be a doctor, be
Speaker 1: a congressman.
Speaker 3: And you're like cop, Like you have a power thing.
Speaker 3: I feel like if that's your deal.
Speaker 1: But Jessica Tish, they confront Yeah, they confront Brad and
Speaker 1: and they go you're only sixteen, and he's like I
Speaker 1: can explain, and they're like can it And they go
Speaker 1: just sign right here, and he's like, I'll sign this
Speaker 1: no problem.
Speaker 3: Getting that purp off the street was the best day
Speaker 3: of my life. So everything's cool now.
Speaker 1: And then they're like sure it is, little buddy, and
Speaker 1: they arrest him immediately for impersonating an officer. So then
Speaker 1: now teen Cop, who I've been calling teen Cop the
Speaker 1: whole time, is literally teen cop. He is in cement
Speaker 1: room bars talking about how he always dreamed about being
Speaker 1: a cop. He's like a real This is before they
Speaker 1: had Chase from paw patrol. So I do not know
Speaker 1: what has indoctrinated him, but he's a huge holster sniffer.
Speaker 1: And his mom is with him in the room. She's like,
Speaker 1: he reads so much about being a cop, so it's okay.
Speaker 1: She's basically like, he reads a lot about being a cop,
Speaker 1: so it's like, okay that he did this, and Liv
Speaker 1: is like, okay, well you want to be a cop,
Speaker 1: so bad, dude, kiss that dream goodbye. A felony on
Speaker 1: your record is automatic disqualification. And he's like, I didn't
Speaker 1: commit a felony. And it's like, I guess you don't
Speaker 1: read enough because ye, Stabler's like two felonies, impersonation of
Speaker 1: a cop and middle possession of a gun. And then
Speaker 1: his hashtag boy mom is like, wait, that's a legal gun.
Speaker 1: It's mine and it's registered. It's like not for your
Speaker 1: teen son, you dumb bitch, Like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: It's illegal one. Well, now we know how she how
Speaker 1: he became like this exactly. She's like, you can do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, babe. We're gonna pay for your apartment
Speaker 1: so you can be a cop.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 1: So this delusional mom, it was really getting to me.
Speaker 1: She's like, it's okay. He reads a lot and I
Speaker 1: give him the gun, but it's my gun, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: So Stabler points out, I guess you don't know much
Speaker 1: as much about the law as you thought. You'll have
Speaker 1: plenty of time to read in jail. But teen cop
Speaker 1: is doubling down on his theory that he's a hero.
Speaker 1: He's like, I caught the rapist and they're like yeah,
Speaker 1: and he almost walked on the charge because you played
Speaker 1: dress up, you fool, and he's like, well, he's not
Speaker 1: good to walk, right, And then cut to my favorite
Speaker 1: British er babe Alex Kingston playing attorney Miranda Pond, who
Speaker 1: is in four episodes of the show.
Speaker 3: I loved her on er.
Speaker 1: This woman, I don't know why she really struck out
Speaker 1: to me, and she's slapping a motion to exclude down
Speaker 1: on the table, saying that Brad Fletcher violated Wayne's Fourth
Speaker 1: Amendment rights. But then Sharon Stone Joe Marlow is there
Speaker 1: being like, no, he's a civilian and civilians are not, like,
Speaker 1: you know, accountable to that law, and Miranda's like, he
Speaker 1: went to a task force meeting, he walked through an
Speaker 1: apprehension plan and he was assigned a sector of the park,
Speaker 1: so it really seems like he was acting as a
Speaker 1: law enforcement agent. And Joe's like, well, look, this is
Speaker 1: extremely embarrassing for the NYPD. I will admit that, but
Speaker 1: ultimately it's a kid who got caught up playing cops
Speaker 1: and robbers. And the judge is really leaning towards Miranda
Speaker 1: on this, like who argues that it's all fruit of
Speaker 1: the poisonous tree, which they use again, and Miranda plans
Speaker 1: to dismiss.
Speaker 3: The judge is like, give me some time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to think about it and make my ruling,
Speaker 1: and Miranda's like, great, and when you're done, I plan
Speaker 1: to dismiss if you rule in my favor, and Joe
Speaker 1: tries to prove to the judge like, listen, sir, like
Speaker 1: your honor, we do not condone this behavior. We're actually
Speaker 1: charging the kid for a crime, and I'm on my
Speaker 1: way to family right now to get his teen ass.
Speaker 1: So in family court, teen cop is being a whiny bitch.
Speaker 1: He's like, this isn't fitter the dejective's promise to give
Speaker 1: me a break. Yeah, I am getting really like just
Speaker 1: entitled vibes from this kid, like he still thinks he's
Speaker 1: a hero. He still thinks like this isn't fair, like
Speaker 1: you haven't self examined at all. What you did was wrong,
Speaker 1: And his mom just goes, just take your medicine. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: I get it. At first, I was like, what medicine?
Speaker 1: We never talk about him having an illness. She means like,
Speaker 1: take your punishment and shut the fuck up. I didn't
Speaker 1: get that at first. So his lawyer, I realized that
Speaker 1: on the podcast just now as I said it out
Speaker 1: loud from my own notes. Uh. His lawyer is like,
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. This is a good deal and
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a felony on your records. If
Speaker 1: you want your little cop dreams to come true, shut up.
Speaker 1: So he pleads guilty to attempted criminal impersonation of a
Speaker 1: police officer. Instead of criminal impersonation, it's attempted and that's
Speaker 1: a misdemeanor, and he's gets sentenced to one hundred hours
Speaker 1: of community service. He also agrees to relinquish all police paraphernalia,
Speaker 1: and as Joe reads off the list of all the
Speaker 1: police stuff, like you need to give up all weapons, badges,
Speaker 1: that that we she narrates it in voiceover as we
Speaker 1: see Munch and Finn in this kid's room clearing out
Speaker 1: all the cop shit he has, and his room is
Speaker 1: in soo much it's like NYPD merch as far as
Speaker 1: the eye can see. It's like NYPD K nine, like NYPD,
Speaker 1: like all of these like bumper stickers, like all of
Speaker 1: these things that he has badges, like just books, magazines,
Speaker 1: periodicals like, so his room is a shrine to cop them.
Speaker 1: And they tell him he's also not allowed to go
Speaker 1: into cop chat rooms or message boards and he has
Speaker 1: to unsubscribe from all the cool.
Speaker 3: Cop magazines that he gets.
Speaker 1: Oh man, and if he does all this after six months,
Speaker 1: the case will be dismissed and expunged from his record
Speaker 1: at twenty one. So pretty lucky, dude, Like you fully
Speaker 1: impersonated a cop and tried to log evidence like you
Speaker 1: were trying to type up a DD five, your psycho. So,
Speaker 1: now Joe and Team Cop are in her office going
Speaker 1: over his testimony, and she's talking to him closer than
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with, like he's sixteen, and she's like in
Speaker 1: his face trying to get him not to be in
Speaker 1: the air. Yes, yes, I think it's also Sharon Stone
Speaker 1: has a hard time, like not being sexy, Like she's
Speaker 1: just such a sexy lady. And even though she's playing
Speaker 1: this character, I think Sharon Stone's a great actress. I
Speaker 1: don't actually think she's great on this show, but she is.
Speaker 1: It is you just immediately when she's in a room
Speaker 1: with another man, like, well, that's a child. But I
Speaker 1: just am like, oh, something's gonna happen. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1: She's she's on the up and up, and she's just
Speaker 1: talking close, talking to him, trying to get him to
Speaker 1: stopping such a fucking idiot. Like every time she lures
Speaker 1: him into something, he's like, no, wait, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: And she's like, no, I'm playing the prosecutor, like the defense.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what they're gonna say to you. And
Speaker 1: then he's like, whoa, you were a cop? Because she
Speaker 1: has a medal framed on the wall and a picture
Speaker 1: of her in her cop hat and thing, and she
Speaker 1: has there's a newspaper cover that says Marlow and Hold.
Speaker 1: And you know how all the famous cops get name
Speaker 1: checked on the cover of the New York Post, right,
Speaker 1: Like we all know who a bunch of famous cops are,
Speaker 1: so they get punning up titles on their on their
Speaker 1: front pages. So he starts fangirling so hard that she
Speaker 1: used to be a cop and how'd you get promoted?
Speaker 1: And she's like, I took down a drug cartel and
Speaker 1: he's like, you gotta tell me about that. Like this,
Speaker 1: it's like a kid talking about video games like he's wild.
Speaker 1: And Joe gets a call and starts sexy talking to
Speaker 1: someone again. It's Sharon Stone, like she's talking to someone
Speaker 1: she's definitely gonna fuck later, and she's like, well, oh,
Speaker 1: we'll can talk about that later. Meanwhile, teen cop is
Speaker 1: over there just like touching her metal and getting a
Speaker 1: boner and then knock, knock the back. The judge is
Speaker 1: back with his decision about the motion to exclude. Right away,
Speaker 1: the judge says, I did not come to this decision lightly.
Speaker 1: So a rapist is about to walk. That's always how
Speaker 1: we know. Uh. He grants the motion. Miranda Pond moves
Speaker 1: to dismiss, and it is granted without prejudice. And I realized,
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever talked about this about what
Speaker 1: that means, so I googled it really quickly, and without
Speaker 1: prejudice means you can retry, but with prejudice means it's over.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't even really know that. Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: So because Sharon Stone's character goes without prejudice, like she's
Speaker 1: and he's like, without prejudice, So it's like, we can
Speaker 1: try this rapist again and like it's not closed with prejudice,
Speaker 1: I would assume means it gets dismissed, like but it
Speaker 1: would have been a mistrial, you know. Joe turns around
Speaker 1: and teen coopp is h in the courtroom, like during
Speaker 1: this judge's decision, she left him in her office and
Speaker 1: said stay there, and he came into the court he
Speaker 1: found where she was and sat in the courtroom. I
Speaker 1: think that makes things a lot faster for television, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And
Speaker 1: he can't believe she's gonna let Wayne walk, and he's
Speaker 1: he's being very accusatory as if this entire thing isn't
Speaker 1: his fault, and Joe's like, I just have to find
Speaker 1: some new evidence. So Stabler's like, what new evidence? Like
Speaker 1: everything we have is from the bad search, and Live
Speaker 1: is upset that they made these three children come in
Speaker 1: for a traumatic lineup. So Benson Stabler, Joe and Kragan
Speaker 1: are stratgizing. They're like, we could go back to the flashings.
Speaker 1: We could maybe interview some of those witnesses and that'll
Speaker 1: give us something to connect us to Wayne that is
Speaker 1: not Fletcher.
Speaker 3: But Live says, wait a second.
Speaker 1: In interrogation, he flashed us, and I'm like, again, it
Speaker 1: literally seems like he touched the bottom of his shirt,
Speaker 1: but it's NBC. They're like, can we get him on that?
Speaker 1: And she's like, it's a misdemeanor, it's a slap on
Speaker 1: the wrist. We should sit on him. Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: So we cut to the steakout crew and it's a
Speaker 1: threesome that we didn't know we needed. Benson Stable and
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone and they pull up. They pull up to
Speaker 1: the guy's house and Stable goes, oh, he lives in
Speaker 1: Queen's This is twenty minutes from my house. And it's like, like,
Speaker 1: you're going home, buddy, come on, you live for a
Speaker 1: steak out. And then Live shades Wayne for living with
Speaker 1: his dad at thirty eight years old, and we can
Speaker 1: go ask the dad about the birthmark. Let's see if
Speaker 1: daddy wants his basement back, all he has to do
Speaker 1: is give up his son. So then just as we
Speaker 1: exit the car, we hear gunshots ring out and out
Speaker 1: of the house runs fucking teen cop with a bloody
Speaker 1: wound to the gut and like and I think his chest. Also,
Speaker 1: Wayne's dad comes out yelling about how this bastard broke
Speaker 1: into his house. Joe Marlowe gets on the like teen
Speaker 1: cops now on the ground bleeding out, and Joe marlow
Speaker 1: starts chest compressions and she sort of does. She doesn't
Speaker 1: really start them because basically she just looks up terrified,
Speaker 1: and that's where we go to commercial off of her
Speaker 1: terrified look. So now dumbass teen cop wakes up in
Speaker 1: the hospital and Joe is at his bedside and she's like,
Speaker 1: you were almost mom.
Speaker 3: I'm just this lawyer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your mom went to go get some of
Speaker 1: your favorite clothes. Like, I don't know, Mom's not there.
Speaker 1: We had an episode wrap on the mom and so
Speaker 1: we're using sharing stone. She's like, you were almost killed.
Speaker 1: That bullet was like a quarter of an introm your aorta,
Speaker 1: You stupid fuck. And then Fletcher goes it was Hanktt's
Speaker 1: father like something like that, and we don't know what
Speaker 1: he's saying yet, because that's who shot him, and Joe's
Speaker 1: like like, yeah, you're super in deep shit, bro, like
Speaker 1: you violated your probation.
Speaker 3: And she's like, how did you get into that house?
Speaker 1: I want to know, and he goes, I found the
Speaker 1: house key when I was vouchering the evidence. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to help them get the guy. So even though
Speaker 1: he was vouchering evidence, thinking I busted a rapist, he thought,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep the key to this rapist's house. J
Speaker 1: I see, okay again in these plot holes, let me
Speaker 1: proofread the script and I will tell you where I
Speaker 1: think things don't make sense. So anyway, kids like I
Speaker 1: just couldn't let him reap another girl. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: you just blew your last shots get into the NYPD.
Speaker 1: You sacrificed your future for nothing. He goes, no, you
Speaker 1: should have seen what I saw. I saw something. It
Speaker 1: wasn't Wayne, it's his dad. He's like, Wayne was asleep.
Speaker 1: I was searching through his room. I heard screw muffled screams.
Speaker 1: I thought that maybe he had another girl, but it
Speaker 1: was the old man in the back watching a video
Speaker 1: of Wayne raping Tina Harper. One of the victims, and
Speaker 1: Joe said, and Joe's like, wait, what if this pans out,
Speaker 1: you may have just bought yourself another shot at the academy.
Speaker 1: And we keep going back to this, and I really
Speaker 1: am not invested in this kid getting into the academy,
Speaker 1: like at all. This is very brock Turner to me.
Speaker 1: This is very I don't want to risk a young
Speaker 1: man's future when he is like he is bad, he
Speaker 1: is entitled, he has committed crimes. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be perfect for the NYPD. I know he's gonna be
Speaker 1: fucking chief of d's in like two years. He'll be
Speaker 1: like the youngest chief of Detectives will be twenty nine,
Speaker 1: like running the chief of detective. She tells him, keep
Speaker 1: your ass out of trouble for the next five years
Speaker 1: and we'll wrap this up. It's like, you don't even
Speaker 1: know that you can wrap it up like that. He
Speaker 1: got shot for breaking and entering, like I don't whatever.
Speaker 1: Suddenly they are very close mentor mentee and she's like,
Speaker 1: stay out of trouble, you a little case ruining scamp,
Speaker 1: and she like is tossling his hair and shit and
Speaker 1: live is not necessarily buying this whole thing about the dad.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, he didn't blindfold his victims, and no
Speaker 1: one saw this guy with a camera, so where did
Speaker 1: like the videos come from, you know?
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, the.
Speaker 1: Victim was shown in extreme close up, so maybe it
Speaker 1: was like a small hidden camera, like in a button.
Speaker 1: Cameras are so small now, and all the victims said
Speaker 1: he never took his hat off, so ding ding ding.
Speaker 1: Now they're searching the Hankett house while the dad is
Speaker 1: looking on and they're like, well, the hats.
Speaker 3: We can't find anything in any of these hats.
Speaker 1: And they're like, wow, you sure have a lot of porn, sir,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, it's no law against that, and
Speaker 1: then they go, yeah, unless someone's underage or being sexually assaulted,
Speaker 1: and then his face drops, you know, like that's the
Speaker 1: shit he's most into. So they're definitely gonna find that.
Speaker 1: And we heard you were watching home videos of your
Speaker 1: kid last night. And this guy's like denying everything. He's
Speaker 1: trying to pin it all on teen cop, going he
Speaker 1: was trying to kill me even though, and they're like
Speaker 1: he was unarmed and he was fleeing your house and
Speaker 1: you shot him three Times so seems more like you
Speaker 1: were trying to snuff out a witness than you were
Speaker 1: actually trying to stand your ground.
Speaker 3: And then they're like, so where's Wayne? And he went
Speaker 3: for a walk.
Speaker 1: So now munch Fin have somehow immediately tracked down Wayne
Speaker 1: and he has ducked into a peep show, which I
Speaker 1: don't even know where you can go to those anymore,
Speaker 1: but they used to be all in Times Square and
Speaker 1: they've got a search warrant for the hat and I
Speaker 1: think that's so funny, like we just need to look
Speaker 1: in the hat and Wayne comes out, they grab his
Speaker 1: hat off his head and boom right away there's a
Speaker 1: camera inside it with which looked with also what looks
Speaker 1: like a d battery, like it looks like a lot uh. Later,
Speaker 1: Craigan is filling in Joe, like we found full of
Speaker 1: the videos of one of the victims being assaulted taken
Speaker 1: from the hat cam. It's really graphic and scary, like
Speaker 1: we're watching it like this young girl is just lying
Speaker 1: on the grass being like, please don't hurt me, and
Speaker 1: he's like, open your eyes, look at me, and then
Speaker 1: he duct tapes her mouth like it's graphic. I did
Speaker 1: not like watching that in cement room bars. We've got
Speaker 1: Wayne back and lives going after him, and she's putting
Speaker 1: on this whole sympathy act for Wayne's dad. Oh, your
Speaker 1: poor dad, you're a freak and you ruin your dad's life.
Speaker 1: He's not sick way you are. And he tells her, no,
Speaker 1: it was all my dad's idea, all the rapes, like
Speaker 1: and my dad made me do it. And they're like,
Speaker 1: how happy? Do you know what this episode is?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What's the one where it was like someone's jail buddy
Speaker 2: on the way out was making him commit crimes. Remember
Speaker 2: it was a gray haired man too, and this guy
Speaker 2: looks like he's from Frasier.
Speaker 3: But it was like another old dad.
Speaker 1: What what?
Speaker 3: What did the guy in the other episode have over him?
Speaker 2: He owed him because of prison and he was like
Speaker 2: this guy's bitch in prison and so he lived with
Speaker 2: him and got abused and they found all the trinkets
Speaker 2: and he was like so scared and shaking.
Speaker 1: He looked like an exports and like, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember that either, Like, yeah, there's five there's five hundred
Speaker 1: and forty episodes. It's really hard, but this is it's similar.
Speaker 1: It's like other you know, like gray haired men with
Speaker 1: this nervous blue eyed men. Yeah, being their pawns. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So basically, how did your dad make you do this?
Speaker 1: Wayne opens up, He's been putting me down for years,
Speaker 1: saying I'm a sissy, I'm worthless, babe, most ashamed of me.
Speaker 1: I know, like I he you know, I would never
Speaker 1: amount to anything, and lives like, you need to take
Speaker 1: responsibility for what you did, like I'm sorry that you got,
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm sorry you got. I'm emotionally abused,
Speaker 1: but like take responsibility. And he's like, you mean, like
Speaker 1: how I killed my mother? And then he's he opens
Speaker 1: up and says that she died when he was twelve
Speaker 1: and it was his fault. And we're like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: did you accidentally kill your mom? No, the dad just
Speaker 1: said you made your mom worry so much that you're
Speaker 1: the reason that she got cancer, which is so fucking dark.
Speaker 1: It's like this guy is just emotionally abused this kid
Speaker 1: into oblivion. And then he said, he said, I the
Speaker 1: dad told him I can never remarry because no woman
Speaker 1: wants to be have you as a son. He started
Speaker 1: drinking the dad and he started bringing home sex workers
Speaker 1: and making him watch so he would learn to be
Speaker 1: a man, and then one day he brought home an
Speaker 1: extra one for me. And it sounds like this is
Speaker 1: all starting when he's twelve and thirteen, and that this
Speaker 1: is opening up a memory for me of being in
Speaker 1: a cab in Amsterdam where my cab driver told me
Speaker 1: that's how he lost his virginity, is that his dad
Speaker 1: went to the Red Lake district and got sex workers.
Speaker 1: And he was telling me it like it was My
Speaker 1: first word was light and I like to eat apples,
Speaker 1: Like he was just telling you. You think that's like
Speaker 1: a cultural thing in Amsterdam or I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. He was like, yeah, my dad was like
Speaker 1: showing me how to be a man. That's like what
Speaker 1: I have not thought about that. That was on my
Speaker 1: semester a broad in two thousand. WHOA, why is there
Speaker 1: more Amanda Knock stuff? Like haven't we heard enough another?
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing, and I'm like, it's not
Speaker 3: that twisted.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to get a job either,
Speaker 1: but like if the story's not that twisted, we keep
Speaker 1: trying to sexualize her and make it like it's a
Speaker 1: guy murdered her and the roommate acted weird and I
Speaker 1: to speak Italian and couldn't like it was things like that,
Speaker 1: like I don't really think a man A Knox did
Speaker 1: anything twisted.
Speaker 3: No, she did have my opinion, but oh, I think
Speaker 3: most people think that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just can't know. If there's another show, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how many I mean they've done like now like but
Speaker 1: now it's.
Speaker 3: From her point of view, I'm like, no one cares.
Speaker 1: Please, We've done so many bundies, We've done so many
Speaker 1: John Wayne Gacy's I think I don't know. We Well,
Speaker 1: we're getting a new gaycy so watch out with my
Speaker 1: Michael churnis so scary friend of the pod. Okay, so
Speaker 1: this fucking kid is now being asked to have sex
Speaker 1: side by side with his dad with a with a
Speaker 1: sex worker and Wayne goes but it didn't work. I
Speaker 1: just I couldn't do it in front of him, and
Speaker 1: that just made him hate me more, Like what you
Speaker 1: think your son is sexual dysfunctioning because he can't, at
Speaker 1: twelve years old have sex with a woman in front
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 3: You're you're the problem.
Speaker 4: Dad.
Speaker 3: Uh So anyway, liv Goes, I'm I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: No one helped you as a kid, but you're thirty
Speaker 1: eight now, why didn't you just leave when you turned eighteen?
Speaker 1: And then we cut to the dad going that loser
Speaker 1: could never survive on his own. I wanted Wayne out
Speaker 1: of the house. I wanted to retire, but I couldn't.
Speaker 1: And Stabler is giving this guy the old alpha male special, like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you can't get it up. You only
Speaker 1: get actions from sex workers. You screwed in front of
Speaker 1: your kid, and then you went limp and you started
Speaker 1: using your son as a surrogate. And he's like, we
Speaker 1: know about the abuse, and the dad responds with, I
Speaker 1: wish he'd never been born.
Speaker 3: He's completely useless.
Speaker 1: So this man is like associate, but he has like
Speaker 1: no feeling towards his child at all except for hate.
Speaker 3: Stay, No, he has feelings. They're just disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're like, uh, well, we checked out the
Speaker 1: electronics store footage and we know that you're saying Wayne's
Speaker 1: completely useless, and we know he's not that good with
Speaker 1: electronics either. But you, on the other hand, have worked
Speaker 1: in electronics for thirty five years. So you rigged the cameras.
Speaker 1: We saw you there on the tapes and you set
Speaker 1: up your son to choke the chicken, they say, in
Speaker 1: front of all those girls. And the dad goes, he
Speaker 1: had no interest in sex. I had to fix him.
Speaker 1: He couldn't get a girl any other way. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I can understand that's why you brought a sex
Speaker 1: worker home, even though that's deeply fucked up and he
Speaker 1: was underage. But you think getting him to jerk off
Speaker 1: in a department store in front of all these people
Speaker 1: is the way to fix his sexual dysfunction. Like, what's happening?
Speaker 1: What Father of the year. I don't get where you're
Speaker 1: coming from. But anyway, Wayne comes out of interrogation and says,
Speaker 1: what happens to me?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Wait, so I just want to summarize what's happening here.
Speaker 1: This father has figured out a way to get his son,
Speaker 1: who he hates, to go out and sexually assault teen
Speaker 1: girls with a fucking button cam in his hat so
Speaker 1: that he can watch it and feel like he's doing it.
Speaker 1: You got it.
Speaker 3: You have to investigate the father.
Speaker 1: There's definitely what he definitely was a child molester then
Speaker 1: before he started losing the ability to get an erection, right, wow,
Speaker 1: I mean he's going there's no way. He just started
Speaker 1: getting a proclivity for young girls when he was you know, like,
Speaker 1: uh is seventy eight or whatever. Anyway, Wayne comes out
Speaker 1: of interrogation and goes what happens to me now? And
Speaker 1: they're like, well, you're gonna get processed and booked. Like
Speaker 1: at the beginning, when he was acting like, wait, I
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. That part is weird to me because
Speaker 1: it's like he was acting like he didn't do anything wrong,
Speaker 1: but it's like he knows he's wrong. He's doing it
Speaker 1: for his dad, So I was confused why he was like, wait,
Speaker 1: why are you arresting me? It's like it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're busting me on the thing that happened. I don't
Speaker 1: think Wayne has the wherewithal to like act like he
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And he was acting like he didn't do anything wrong
Speaker 3: at the beginning. Well, he's trying to save his own ass. Yeah,
Speaker 3: do you want to go to jail? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But he seems like he'd be a bad liar. And
Speaker 1: at the beginning I almost believe him. I almost believe
Speaker 1: they have the wrong guy. Like I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a matching birthmark thing, like that's what
Speaker 1: I kind of thought, like, Oh, we're going to find
Speaker 1: out birthmarks.
Speaker 3: Somebody's drawing the birthmark on to frame.
Speaker 1: Him, like whatever, That's what I kind of thought, because
Speaker 1: the Florida birthmark is wild. But Wayne, they tell him
Speaker 1: you're getting process and booked, like sorry, buddy, you are
Speaker 1: going to jail, and the dad comes out and screams,
Speaker 1: I wish I had you aborted.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wayne runs up and it's like dad, Dad. Wayne tries
Speaker 1: hugging him. I'm sorry, I got you in trouble. It's
Speaker 1: so disturbing and sad.
Speaker 3: This scene.
Speaker 1: It's like he's still even after realizing I'm going to
Speaker 1: jail for these horrible crimes. My dad made me commit
Speaker 1: after a lifetime of emotional abuse, He's still like, Daddy,
Speaker 1: I need.
Speaker 3: Your I need your approval, like love me, love me,
Speaker 3: love me.
Speaker 1: It's so so sad, and the dad keeps going you're
Speaker 1: dead to me, while Wayne keeps yelling I love you.
Speaker 1: It's really terrible, and we black out. Off of Joe
Speaker 1: Marlowe's hardened facial expression. That is a classic I need
Speaker 1: to get the fuck out of SVU expression, And that's
Speaker 1: Dick wolf baby.
Speaker 2: Well, you'll all be really relieved to know this is
Speaker 2: just the fake cop teen No. Uh, okay, no daddy
Speaker 2: cam rapes Okay no, No, the writers came up with
Speaker 2: that all on their own. Yeah, this is Chicago. What
Speaker 2: n Sam Richardson? So at fourteen, Richardson impersonated a police officer,
Speaker 2: and he did such a good job that he was
Speaker 2: driving around in a squad car. Like fully worked a
Speaker 2: five hour shift in a squad car, riding along with
Speaker 2: another cop.
Speaker 3: At fourteen years old.
Speaker 2: And these are the people in charge of our criminal
Speaker 2: justice system, Like it is really wild to think about
Speaker 2: that they couldn't tell this was a fourteen year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in two thousand and.
Speaker 2: Nine, this guy who became known as kid Cop, he
Speaker 2: just showed up at Grand Crossing third District station, claiming
Speaker 2: to be an officer from another district. The officers let
Speaker 2: him work a full duty patrol shift, like I said,
Speaker 2: for five hours with and he even helped with an
Speaker 2: arrest before they figured out what was going on. This
Speaker 2: dude was fourteen in eighth grade. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: so crazy. So fourteen officers, including the captain running watch
Speaker 2: during the shift, and seven sergeants were brought up on
Speaker 2: departmental charges, according to iabaka Internal Affairs. I don't think
Speaker 2: they call it iab out in the world, but internal
Speaker 2: affairs report on the incident. According to the Chicago Tribune,
Speaker 2: and he just loved fucking around and he would get
Speaker 2: away with it. Like one time he dressed up as
Speaker 2: a businessman and went to a Lexus dealership asking for
Speaker 2: a test drive and then he crashed the Lexus. So
Speaker 2: he's just like a catch me if you can, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of guy. He was arrested in twenty ten and
Speaker 2: went to juvenile detention after pushing his mother. Oh I
Speaker 2: guess he did do Okay, he did push his mother
Speaker 2: and he stole his uncle's car.
Speaker 3: And then in twenty eleven he.
Speaker 2: Was charging an adult with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon.
Speaker 2: And then in twenty thirteen he was finally sentenced to
Speaker 2: eighteen months in prison for attempting to buy a police uniform.
Speaker 2: And he was working as a security card at the time.
Speaker 2: But he went to a store VCG uniform on West
Speaker 2: Irving and when they were like, are you a cop,
Speaker 2: he goes yeah, And so he bought an eye on
Speaker 2: devil bag, cargo pants, blue duty shirt, a duty belt,
Speaker 2: and then bolted out the back, but before like he
Speaker 2: could get it, like, you have to give your ID,
Speaker 2: So he gave his ID, did all the shopping, and
Speaker 2: then he tried to steal and run away, but it
Speaker 2: left his ID behind and so then the store clerk
Speaker 2: looked up his name from the driver's license and then
Speaker 2: it said, uh, oh, this is the same guy that
Speaker 2: pretended to be a cop at fourteen years old.
Speaker 3: So Richardson just comes back for.
Speaker 2: His ID and the police were already waiting for him
Speaker 2: to take him in, and the police found a receipt
Speaker 2: on Richardson from an online purchase of a CPD bag
Speaker 2: and other supplies and another duty belt. In twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: he's arrested again, this time with a friend both and
Speaker 2: then like it is wild thinking about our last episode
Speaker 2: where it was like seven years for forgery and this
Speaker 2: dude just like cannot stop pushing his mother and pretending
Speaker 2: to be a cop, Like it is kind of silly.
Speaker 2: So he was arrested again and both him and this guy,
Speaker 2: Dontrell Moore, were twenty one years old. They were wearing
Speaker 2: bulletproof vests and police duty belts and had a police
Speaker 2: scanner and a stun gun. So for his cases in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen and twenty fifteen, he served eighteen months in
Speaker 2: prison for each of those cases, but he did not
Speaker 2: learn anything and was arrested again at the age of
Speaker 2: twenty six doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So February twenty twenty one, he was arrested in Lyle,
Speaker 2: which is a West suburb.
Speaker 3: It was four oh one am. He was pretending to
Speaker 3: be a sergeant.
Speaker 2: On January fourteenth, twenty seventh, and February third, he also
Speaker 2: pulled over a vehicle and searched the car like he
Speaker 2: searched the occupants. He was wearing a full blown police uniform,
Speaker 2: pretended to be a sergeant. He slowed down cars with
Speaker 2: a flashlight all in babe At. He he was doing
Speaker 2: TikTok dances and police uniforms. He makes videos and bulletproof
Speaker 2: vests at a shooting range. So because of that, he
Speaker 2: did face three felony accounts of false personation and he
Speaker 2: pled guilty and was sentenced to three years in prison.
Speaker 2: So okay, I found that he was arrested two more
Speaker 2: times in twenty fourteen, but the resources are mugshot zone,
Speaker 2: mugshots dot zone dot like it's not a god, it's
Speaker 2: mugshot zone and the o's and mugshot and zone are
Speaker 2: connected in their handcuffs.
Speaker 1: The over and then the other is e news.
Speaker 2: Park Forest serving a great American town, park Forest, Illinois.
Speaker 2: So I just and I don't know if he was
Speaker 2: convicted because I didn't find anything of like jail time.
Speaker 2: I didn't find any records or like he inmate lock up,
Speaker 2: and I didn't find any other sources that had this.
Speaker 2: So he but it says that he was arrested in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four for unlawful possession of ammunition with a felony.
Speaker 2: So he was found with like fake guns but the
Speaker 2: ammunition was real and since he already had a felony,
Speaker 2: like you can't do that, so but the police according
Speaker 2: to this Park Forest paper, the police said mister Richardson
Speaker 2: wore a ballistic vest with a star badge on the
Speaker 2: front that stated President Defense Executive Protection one one, six,
Speaker 2: four three eight. Mister Richardson also had a radio, a
Speaker 2: body worn camera, pepper spray, a flashlight, two magazines in
Speaker 2: a magazine pouch, and he had a ballistic and then
Speaker 2: the back of his ballistic vest. He had a patch
Speaker 2: that read Public Safety, and he had a glock semi
Speaker 2: automatic firearm and a holster on his right hip, and
Speaker 2: then next to the gun was a metal star badge
Speaker 2: that was engraved President Defense Security one one six four three.
Speaker 3: Wowoh, so he just won't stop. No, So I'm I'm
Speaker 3: wondering if he's still in jail, because in.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one he got three years, and it feels
Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty four, immediately when he's out, he
Speaker 1: did it again.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if he's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what's up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he got out early for good
Speaker 1: time and then he got back and what's like what
Speaker 1: sucks about? Like this is at fourteen? Obviously the Sun
Speaker 1: Times the tribute articles are kid cop ellwell you know.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, he just like won't stop. But it's
Speaker 3: not as like exciting, it's not as nice.
Speaker 1: He just keeps doing.
Speaker 2: He's a grown up now, so it's like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is like a psychopath who's pretending to be cops.
Speaker 1: Like, and the thing that's funny is like this is
Speaker 1: sort of catch me if you can, but it's sort
Speaker 1: of like not rich, catch me if you can, like
Speaker 1: people like people who can go in and like get
Speaker 1: on a private jet and do all this shit. But
Speaker 1: like he basically just doing being as sneaky, just trying
Speaker 1: to be a cop over and over, you know, over
Speaker 1: and over.
Speaker 3: Won't stop. Otherwise there'd be a movie about this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: I mean there's an episode of SVU about him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Team Cop. But I hated that fucking teen cop in
Speaker 3: the episode, and I think everybody was.
Speaker 1: They were trying to make us like him by the end,
Speaker 1: and I was like, but no, if you're obsessed with police,
Speaker 1: but you can't make the police force, you're you're unwell,
Speaker 1: You're unwell mentally and physically, like obviously like what's going on.
Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to make it sound like pretty easy
Speaker 3: to be a cop.
Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, also there are you could do explorers,
Speaker 1: like you can do civilian searches when they do searches.
Speaker 3: You know, like you can't just go in and buy
Speaker 3: all the shit.
Speaker 1: First of all, they need to be a lot more discerning,
Speaker 1: like that should be like buying police equipment should be
Speaker 1: just as background checked. I feel like, is getting a
Speaker 1: gun like that because that is so fucked up.
Speaker 3: But also so like officers assisted him.
Speaker 2: So this last twenty twenty four on this like park
Speaker 2: Ridge park Forest thing, is that like like cops met
Speaker 2: him and with him they were searching vacant units. Like
Speaker 2: he was like something's happening, and then cops came and
Speaker 2: he was with them searching these units like just having
Speaker 2: the time of his life.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, just buying stun guns.
Speaker 1: I think this one seems funnier to me because he
Speaker 1: didn't fuck up a rapist, you know, like he's kind
Speaker 1: of just not like it doesn't feel like he's really no.
Speaker 3: He just shoved his mother. Yeah, I shoved his mom.
Speaker 2: But in the scope, this is probably the ten in
Speaker 2: the in the top ten least affected crimes that we've done,
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, like in terms why we feel
Speaker 2: like unaffected, like no one's actually being affected.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like totally this is the top like low
Speaker 1: stakes crime, I would say, yeah, so that's what's like exciting,
Speaker 1: and it's Cook County, so I always feel connected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do feel like people impersonating cops is like
Speaker 1: very scary, especially now with like ice as people get serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I think they should be more careful.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't let random idiots own army supply stores where
Speaker 1: they can buy cop shit. I agree, you have to
Speaker 1: either your outfit has to look exactly like copshit. It
Speaker 1: has to be copshit, or it has to be Amazon shit.
Speaker 1: Like why tell the difference?
Speaker 2: Like why does my school give me gym uniforms but
Speaker 2: the police department can't give their people outfits?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to go buy their own, Like what
Speaker 3: was department issues?
Speaker 2: Because I know there's like scrubs, but I wonder if
Speaker 2: you they only give you one and you have to
Speaker 2: buy a bunch of you you have to buy scrubs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, scrubs were in when I was in school. Scrubs
Speaker 1: are cool. My friend just got to play a nurse
Speaker 1: on Young and the Restless for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: and she sent me pictures of her and her scrubs.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, that's exciting.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: I bet she knows how to memorize lines.
Speaker 1: So I said, I was like, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: hear about this. She's she's been acting for a long
Speaker 1: time and she's never done a soap, So I'm excited to.
Speaker 2: Know I've been rewatching the Dexter of it all. I
Speaker 2: saw your friends screaming in the for the Trinity Killer
Speaker 2: or is it not a friend? What is that story
Speaker 2: where someone was like, Oh my god, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: on Dexter, everyone watch, and then it's just her being
Speaker 2: murdered naked in.
Speaker 1: My friend wanted My friend went on a date with
Speaker 1: that woman and she was like next her and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh great, I'll check it out. And then
Speaker 1: the next day he watched her get her femeral artery
Speaker 1: sliced in a bathtub by John Lithgow.
Speaker 3: John Lithgow is so fucking scary.
Speaker 1: And I've had told you about the time that right
Speaker 1: after I maybe not he saw him, he came on
Speaker 1: the subway with me and like, my blood went ice cold.
Speaker 1: It's like, I know he's an actor. I'm sure he's lovely.
Speaker 1: He was also in Third Rock from the Goddamn Sun
Speaker 1: and I was like, the Trinity Killer just got on
Speaker 1: my subway car. I was frozen, like with fear. That
Speaker 1: is one of the scariest guys.
Speaker 2: Also, Margot Martindale should have been nominated at least for
Speaker 2: an Emmy for her.
Speaker 1: Role in that She was fucking good. Who was Margot Martindale.
Speaker 1: She worked in the records.
Speaker 2: She wasn't in that many episodes, but she was like
Speaker 2: the older lady that works in the records. But then
Speaker 2: she ends up like getting lunk Cay concerned slowly dying
Speaker 2: and like Dexter ends up you know, helping her die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bringing her pie and then she tells him
Speaker 3: a secret.
Speaker 2: He tells her a secret whatever, but like she's truly
Speaker 2: dying of lung cancer and it was like really impressive
Speaker 2: to watch.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I.
Speaker 3: Love character directress Margot Martindale.
Speaker 1: She is the best.
Speaker 2: I have a pin of her. If you're listening. Thank
Speaker 2: you to whoever gave me that Margo Martin open. I
Speaker 2: think it must have been Portland. I think it was
Speaker 2: in one of those boxes. Yes, our listener that gives
Speaker 2: us the best gifts ever.
Speaker 3: All right, we are gonna just move right into postportum
Speaker 3: because we don't have a guest this week. So here
Speaker 3: we go. Okay, well, wanna be I mean, this episode
Speaker 3: ends so abruptly.
Speaker 1: The timing is different, it's structured different, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And it's like kind of
Speaker 1: a wild.
Speaker 3: One yeah, yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 2: I just thought we'd go to try like I don't
Speaker 2: know when they end before even court that's always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no order in this one.
Speaker 1: And maybe that was because like they wanted to use
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone more than just like in the courtroom, Like
Speaker 1: they wanted her like running around and doing it with
Speaker 1: a teen boy and like her little terrified face that
Speaker 1: she likes to make, Like, oh my god, she's got
Speaker 1: a good terrified face.
Speaker 2: You know, I've never seen basic instincts. Oh you haven't. No,
Speaker 2: I have to do that because I love thrillers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also, like you're younger than me, so like
Speaker 1: when that movie came out, it was just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like people could not believe that, like you
Speaker 1: could see like a flash of a woman's vagina in
Speaker 1: a movie and they were flat like everybody it was
Speaker 1: like a porn that we all had to go see.
Speaker 1: So like I think I saw it really young, and
Speaker 1: like everybody just was obsessed with going to see it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like you probably were like too young
Speaker 1: to really get that discourse. And now you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just like a good thriller, you know, like the
Speaker 1: MTV video movie like the MTV Movie Awards, like they
Speaker 1: would do it. They did like a like a parody
Speaker 1: where she uncrosses her legs and there's like an actual
Speaker 1: beaver between her legs. I mean like there were. It
Speaker 1: was like such a big cultural moment her in basic instinct,
Speaker 1: but it's also like freaky and sexy and like it's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited because I haven't seen fatal
Speaker 2: attraction either. I haven't seen that either, and I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a blind spot for me.
Speaker 3: I would maybe like it. I will. I will tell
Speaker 3: everyone about my birthday.
Speaker 2: Yes, but also dad's just if he's a dorc, he'll
Speaker 2: find he'll fuck someone later, Like, don't buy your son.
Speaker 1: I know, children, let's do a quick post mortem here.
Speaker 1: I think there was a failure of a few parents.
Speaker 1: There was a mom that was like, this is normal
Speaker 1: that my son is obsessed with fucking cops and his
Speaker 1: whole room is popash. That's weird. It's like you want
Speaker 1: to be a cop, that's fine. It's almost if you
Speaker 1: want to like Donald Trump. Okay, why do you have
Speaker 1: so much fucking merch? It's weird, Like, stop having so
Speaker 1: much merch of this things? That you like, that's crazy
Speaker 1: that this mom needed to be red flagging her son,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to be a fucking cop. What is
Speaker 1: this program where you get to be like a miniature cop.
Speaker 1: And then also this father, Oh what a nightmare? Like
Speaker 1: stop acting like you need to like show your boys
Speaker 1: how to fuck. They will figure it out, like you
Speaker 1: don't have to be a talk like so he's not
Speaker 1: fucking sex workers at fourteen, so in front of you
Speaker 1: worst like, yeah, the.
Speaker 3: Watching the four Oh my god, abuse is crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and just like honestly it's we talked about
Speaker 1: unknown number at the beginning and it's not the same thing.
Speaker 3: But like how the daughter like this daughter like in
Speaker 3: the doc like does not is not that mad at
Speaker 3: her mom?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wow, no progress.
Speaker 2: So I did see one thing online where the where
Speaker 2: she's in the pink is old and when she's in
Speaker 2: the gray eight it's more current, and that they didn't
Speaker 2: edit it like they would use the footage as needed,
Speaker 2: but that she has not talked to her mom.
Speaker 1: She hasn't talked to her anymore, okay, because when she
Speaker 1: finds out, granted she's shocked, but she doesn't get mad immediately,
Speaker 1: like later in some of the interviews, she's like, I,
Speaker 1: I mean, I want a relationship with my mom. I
Speaker 1: think we email all the time while she's in jail.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fine. Like and I was
Speaker 1: like what. And it just reminds me a little bit
Speaker 1: of this guy being like, Daddy, I love you, and
Speaker 1: he's like, you're a useless idiot. Like you know, like
Speaker 1: this woman was telling her daughter to kill herself on
Speaker 1: over text, and the daughter's like, it's like, I love
Speaker 1: my mom. She's great, Like I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta read the Uh. I'm sure there's like
Speaker 1: interviews with her now where she's like fucking figured everything out.
Speaker 2: Yeah someone, yeah, someone is just like she is like
Speaker 2: I'll talk to her when I'm ready to talk to her,
Speaker 2: like the grades.
Speaker 3: He shared his more current views of her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she went to college for like forensics or
Speaker 2: criminology or something like that.
Speaker 3: Oh really.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The episode of the show though, is like, uh,
Speaker 1: the ending and we talked about it earlier, but like
Speaker 1: just the ending was so like fuck, that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Like you're using your son to rape by proxy, Like
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I also get mad every time I feel bad for
Speaker 2: a rapist, like this show kind of makes you be
Speaker 2: cause it's like he's a rapist and should be serving life.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like, fuck, you don't even have a chance.
Speaker 3: I know with this dad.
Speaker 1: Fucking no way to kind have killed the dad. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to the juice. How's the birthday?
Speaker 3: So, you know, my friends were like, don't go to
Speaker 3: soul cycle.
Speaker 1: We don't have time.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Julia's like, I'm gonna be at your house at ten am,
Speaker 2: and I was like okay. So Saturday at soul Cycle,
Speaker 2: I was talking shit about them and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: my friends won't even let me go to soul cycle.
Speaker 2: So they gave me like birthday love on the Saturday
Speaker 2: class a little bit, and then Julia comes over and goes,
Speaker 2: guess what, We're.
Speaker 3: Going to soul cycle. So it was all.
Speaker 2: So I got to go to soul Cycle and it
Speaker 2: was so the theme of the day was like Liza's
Speaker 2: favorite things. So then after soul Cycle, we went to
Speaker 2: the public pool by Libby's house.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd been to that one. It was it's a
Speaker 3: good one.
Speaker 2: And all the kids were back at school, so it
Speaker 2: was like very sparse people. So like, you know, she
Speaker 2: made a turkey sandwich and we just like swam at
Speaker 2: the pool and then no more than ten people were
Speaker 2: there at a time and they came later and it
Speaker 2: was very just like people cooking snacks, weed, games, alcohol.
Speaker 2: We did polish off a bottle of malort and a
Speaker 2: jug of espallone. I will say that, oh my god.
Speaker 2: But you know, tordelini, pasta pesto salad. I saw pics
Speaker 2: of some of the food. It looked really steak. Jimmy Cherry,
Speaker 2: I mean Lane from Scratch, made spicy tuna, crispy rice.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, like was frying little squares of rice
Speaker 2: on a skillet like this, motherfucker, I can't good. Julia
Speaker 2: made a cake like everyone was just cute. There was
Speaker 2: gushers and it was like a child's birthday. I got
Speaker 2: like a poly pocket and a stuffed rat, you know,
Speaker 2: like I but it was like low key but perfect,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I just want to play heads up
Speaker 2: and be fucked up in a small space and I
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Ibbe has like a really good foot massage or
Speaker 2: at her apartment.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever put your feet in that,
Speaker 1: but like it's unreal. Damn, it's unkay.
Speaker 2: But then Emmy was really funny because my friend of
Speaker 2: me because I told her about the days and about
Speaker 2: Soul Cycle. She goes, so you got to do what
Speaker 2: you would have done? I go, yes, but I was
Speaker 2: tricked into thinking I wasn't. And then I told them.
Speaker 2: I go, oh, I thought you guys were gonna come
Speaker 2: over and help me declutter.
Speaker 3: They go what.
Speaker 2: I go, well, I didn't know what else would be
Speaker 2: at ten am because I didn't get the vibe we
Speaker 2: were going to the beach. So in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 2: maybe we're just gonna declutter. And Alison goes, and then
Speaker 2: do your taxes? What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 2: And I go, what it would have been helpful?
Speaker 3: I need help.
Speaker 2: And then while we were walking back from Soul Cycle,
Speaker 2: I oh, by the way, if we're just gonna watch
Speaker 2: Housewives at my house or something like, can we spend
Speaker 2: time outside instead? And she goes, we have something planned.
Speaker 2: It's not just gonna be housewives. I go, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: you just have my favorite things and it is lounging.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was just kind of a perfect, nice day.
Speaker 2: I can't say anything bad about it.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. My birthday's coming up, and I have like
Speaker 1: no idea what to do. Rosie like really burnt me.
Speaker 1: She goes, Okay, so it's your birthday.
Speaker 4: What do you like?
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I don't know. You are
Speaker 3: a harder person to shop. I'm like, what do I
Speaker 3: like that? I can get to an Italian restaurant?
Speaker 1: Like my husband? They can get him a comic book.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what they got him for like Father's
Speaker 1: Day or whatever. Like, they'll get him like a comic book.
Speaker 1: They know that that's what he's into. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Bravo, I like Prestige television, I
Speaker 1: like traveling, I like wine, I like eating out, I
Speaker 1: like comedy my friends, I don't no. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't have enough like little hobbies and obsessions for the
Speaker 1: gift giving. I was like, I gotta think. I gotta
Speaker 1: get back to you, Rosie. But she really nailed me
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 3: She's like, what do you like? I was like, hmm,
Speaker 3: great question.
Speaker 2: I'm fully missing my friend's birthday because of works. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the gift that I got my friend. Okay,
Speaker 2: hold on one second, Hold one second.
Speaker 3: Okay. So I saw this in a window.
Speaker 2: I have never I haven't been proud this proud of
Speaker 2: a birthday present in a while. And I'm about to
Speaker 2: give this to my best friend. It's not like she's
Speaker 2: gonna fucking listen, so you can. You can announce it
Speaker 2: on the pod. Even if she listened to the pod,
Speaker 2: she wouldn't have gotten this far. Oh, your friend's birthday
Speaker 2: is tomorrow, right, yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it is a stuffy of the baby
Speaker 1: from Dinosaurs, not the mama.
Speaker 3: Not the mama. That's so purpose not stuffy.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what is it? The size of
Speaker 1: Oh it's huge. Oh my god, it's huge.
Speaker 3: And it has a pull cord. Yeah, but it's like
Speaker 3: it looks like it.
Speaker 1: I can't even believe it. Look it's like a replica.
Speaker 1: It looks it's like the actual dinosaur.
Speaker 2: And I had a price in my head when I
Speaker 2: ran into the store when I saw it in the window,
Speaker 2: and it was fifty dollars less than my maximum price
Speaker 2: that I had in mind.
Speaker 3: Ooh, she's gonna love that. That's so too.
Speaker 2: But I have to sit on it, like, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna see her for like a week. But what all, No,
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Yeah, what should a kid get you?
Speaker 2: But the classic first kinds of gifts you give your parents.
Speaker 2: Usually it's like a frame with you in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something focused around them, which is honestly a huge,
Speaker 1: a huge thing that does take up a lot of
Speaker 1: my time. I'm like, I do like you, guys, but
Speaker 1: you also take up a lot of my fucking time. Yeah, vegetarian.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could get you a chef so you
Speaker 1: don't have to cook dinner. Yeah, I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what a kid is capable of though. No, no,
Speaker 1: nothing that I want they are capable of giving me.
Speaker 3: That's true. Like I want and I'm getting an air fryer.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I want an air fryer.
Speaker 1: Can you guys get me that? Yeah, that's actually great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm shocks you went this long without an air fryer,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Well, now I want to I
Speaker 1: want to get this really specific kind but why because
Speaker 1: it's one that is very well reviewed and I think
Speaker 1: it does a lot of different things that will help me. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm excited to get it. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna revolutionize how I make food for my children.
Speaker 1: And I'm really happy, Like I'm really excited to do it.
Speaker 2: I think, are you gonna change your life? I mean
Speaker 2: I went to someone's house for dinner the air fried salmon.
Speaker 2: It was fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like ten minutes we were eating dinner. I
Speaker 3: mean it was nice. Yeah, I gotta get into it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna read the manual. I'm gonna like learn.
Speaker 2: Wait, so wait, did I tell you this that I
Speaker 2: got a call from my nephew and that he was
Speaker 2: like crying and then it was because of Dexter Resurrection.
Speaker 3: Wait, Benji?
Speaker 1: Or he just loved it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Benji, I was like so stressed out. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's going on? And it was just like loving Dexter Resurrection.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that. It's like so relieved. Oh my gods.
Speaker 1: Like it's not the younger one. He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't cry. She would also never messaged me. He
Speaker 1: would never message me. I mean I did get a
Speaker 1: text on my birthday.
Speaker 3: He was, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: You had a great day.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you had a great day.
Speaker 1: I feel like Virgo season is upon us, and uh,
Speaker 1: all so many fun people have birthdays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh also it's also been the blood moon,
Speaker 2: and I love I loved blaming everyone's weird behavior. It's
Speaker 2: like even the guy at the bar, I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: the blood moon, babe, what do we think is gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So I do have one more crime
Speaker 1: thing then we can go. I'm so sorry. So there's
Speaker 1: two things all from Instagram.
Speaker 2: But you know the guy who started out doing like
Speaker 2: the Seventh Heaven recaps and now he's like a full
Speaker 2: blown star heart heart Rob and Anderson or whatever.
Speaker 3: So he posted this.
Speaker 2: It's from BBC dot com and I obviously have to
Speaker 2: look more into it. But surgeon jailed after amputation of
Speaker 2: own legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah we got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Neil Hopper was motivated by sexual interest and amputation.
Speaker 3: But I think if you do it to yourself, it
Speaker 3: should be fine. Why is he jailed? Can't you do
Speaker 3: what you want to your own body?
Speaker 1: And then the heart throughout his caption was finally something
Speaker 1: normal in the news, Oh my god. And then the
Speaker 1: other thing.
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know if this is a real sight
Speaker 2: or not financial but it's man arrested for setting cafe
Speaker 2: on fire because they ran out of mayo for his sandwich.
Speaker 3: People are so fucked up. People are so fucked up.
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, I have a crime thing,
Speaker 2: and then it was the craziest crimes that could ever be.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's I mean, it says he's
Speaker 2: been jailed for two years and eight months for insurance
Speaker 2: fraud and possessing extreme pornography, So that has nothing.
Speaker 1: To do with what possessing the extreme pornography? Can't you
Speaker 1: have pornography like, no matter how extreme.
Speaker 2: It is also claiming that he had sepsis and it
Speaker 2: wasn't self inflicted, but that it was mys serious illness
Speaker 2: and he had used ice and dry ice to freeze
Speaker 2: his own legs so they had to be removed. So
Speaker 2: he admitted to two counts of fraud, three of possessing
Speaker 2: extra Yeah, the pornography had a special a sexual interest
Speaker 2: in amputation. No previous convictions though, that's I guess. Okay,
Speaker 2: the level of harm and three videos of body mutilation
Speaker 2: which were the subject of the pornography charges, was exceptionally high.
Speaker 1: Oh so I think these are two separate things.
Speaker 2: I think he's jailed for whatever, like weird snuff porn
Speaker 2: he's watching and people being amputated, and then the but
Speaker 2: maybe the fraud that he lied about sepsis when he
Speaker 2: did it to himself. Yeah, he did not tell the
Speaker 2: medics the real cause of his injuries.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's what it is. But then it's
Speaker 1: so it's the insurance claim. It's insurance. Yah, the insurance
Speaker 1: thing would be denied, like because it wasn't from sepsis,
Speaker 1: it was from you doing it on purpose, like but yeah,
Speaker 1: oh crazy, Yeah, he just.
Speaker 2: Has an obsession with removing parts of his own body
Speaker 2: and a sexual interest in doing so.
Speaker 3: Yuck oough.
Speaker 2: A long shitting ambition. Yeah, if you want to amputate
Speaker 2: your own legs to get hard, you do have to
Speaker 2: pay for it, unfortunately you and it might be with
Speaker 2: jail time. Even in the UK. Insurance isn't that good?
Speaker 2: You gotta pay.
Speaker 3: For your own.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what the national whatever it's called
Speaker 1: in the UK was set up for.
Speaker 2: God, the men were having their genitals removed in the
Speaker 2: videos and he had all these but.
Speaker 3: Is this stuff in the videos? Is it consensual?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Are people making those videos consensually, because I kind of
Speaker 1: think that you should be able to have any kind
Speaker 1: of violent move possession, any kind of violent thing that
Speaker 1: you want, if it was made consensually. Like if there's
Speaker 1: a video of somebody like chopping off their toes and
Speaker 1: they're doing it on purpose, and that gives you a boner,
Speaker 1: why can't you have that?
Speaker 3: That's not like me, but like that's this is America,
Speaker 3: Like you're supposed.
Speaker 2: To well, because how do we confirm that it's you're
Speaker 2: a right mind to chop your toes off?
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, that's true too. I mean that gets
Speaker 1: into a whole other fucking thing. He says that he
Speaker 1: bitterly he does not regret the operations. He just bitterly
Speaker 1: regrets the dishonesty about the cause. Okay, yeah, so he's happy.
Speaker 1: He's happy and on his lower legs. I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said that there's images in Dexter that are like
Speaker 1: really disgusting, Like, how do we know that this stuff
Speaker 1: is real? How do we know that this stuff is
Speaker 1: not like staged? I don't know, like there's children involved
Speaker 1: or something. Obviously, that's another Yeah, it says no children.
Speaker 1: BBC said no children.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a different thing. But I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe they get into Hey, maybe they have to go
Speaker 2: through all his amputations that he did for patients and
Speaker 2: see make sure everything was right on and not like
Speaker 2: just him trying to get excited. Yeah, like maybe like
Speaker 2: he was helping other people like him do it instead
Speaker 2: of oh right, for people that needed it.
Speaker 3: He definitely was giving out a few freebies.
Speaker 1: I think this guy for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, you're the most popular guy.
Speaker 1: If you're a surgeon in an amputee in an elective
Speaker 1: amputee group, you're popular.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, let's get into what would Sister Beeg do.
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