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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Betting pros as college football Win Total

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Speaker 1: preview series. I am your host, Thorn Eistrom, joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my partner in crime, Mike Farrell of Mike

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Speaker 1: Farrell Sports. Today we're going to be talking about the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve and giving you all our favorite win total

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Speaker 1: bets from all around that conference and sharing all the

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Speaker 1: intel that we have collected over this summer. Beginning with

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's USC Trojans and the defending Heisman winner Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Their win total said at nine and a half, there

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Speaker 1: is some tens out there, just like with Clemson. You

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Speaker 1: got nine and a half in tens depending on where

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Speaker 1: you shop, So look around depending on where you think

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Speaker 1: of USC. Mike at that win total, Caleb Williams coming back,

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Speaker 1: of course, you still have some questions on defense. Fun

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Speaker 1: team though, What do you think about USC? And where

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Speaker 1: would you go with that win.

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Speaker 2: Total under nine and three? Oh, they didn't make well,

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Speaker 2: they didn't make the changes they needed to make on defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Alex Grinch is there no offense? Dallas French,

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Speaker 2: but she's still there. We saw that, doesn't you know

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Speaker 2: fly at Oklahoma? It didn't fly last year they're not

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Speaker 2: that good in the trenches. You know, they should be

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Speaker 2: slightly improved. The defense is going to be an issue.

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Speaker 2: But my problem is not with the roster. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Kayler Williams is amazing. Of Course, Dorian Singer is going

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Speaker 2: to be probably better than Addison was as far as

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure you know how much Marshawn Lloyd brings.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's good. A lot of people looking at

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Speaker 2: that high school rating and it's a different back. But

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Speaker 2: my problem is the PAC twelve is really good. I

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Speaker 2: mean that this is not an easy road. It's just

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Speaker 2: if this league was average, if this was prior to

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Speaker 2: last season, and Washington was Washington, you know, and Oregon

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Speaker 2: was solid, you know, but still you know, backing their

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Speaker 2: way into a COVID twelve title and losing games that

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't win, and you know, the teams of you know,

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Speaker 2: Utah and Oregon State and everybody's improved, even Colorado, which

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Speaker 2: we'll get to. You know, I'm not saying Colorado's beating USC,

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Speaker 2: but the depth of that conference is so much better

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Speaker 2: now that I think, you know, he took that step

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Speaker 2: a slight step backwards because I don't trust them in

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Speaker 2: the trenches or the defense. So I'm thinking nine and three,

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Speaker 2: which isn't bad, but I'm not taking nine and a

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna preference my comments by saying this.

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Speaker 1: This is how I see the PAC twelve, which is

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Speaker 1: I agree with you qualitatively. They've got this conference, and

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Speaker 1: it's really unfortunate because rip PAC twelve. This gonna be

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Speaker 1: the last summer in RP.

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Speaker 2: We're pretty good year to go out, but a very good.

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Speaker 1: Year to go out. But the way that I see

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Speaker 1: this conference, they have three elite teams, three teams that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me at all if they make the you know,

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Speaker 1: and probably will usc OR and Washington, And then.

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Speaker 2: I think, there you, how dare you not include you to?

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Speaker 1: So if Rising and Keithy were healthy and I was

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Speaker 1: confident that those guys are gonna play twelve, they absolutely

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Speaker 1: be included. But I'll put them right, you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: put them in Tier one B just because of those

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Speaker 1: I'll put them Tier two, Oregon State and UCLA. But

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Speaker 1: then they're for me an enormous qualitative drop between those

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Speaker 1: Like I got Washington State after that, but I have

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Speaker 1: there at the dregs of the FBS. So that's sort

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Speaker 1: of how I see this conference, and that will sort

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Speaker 1: I shade that USC one a bit over. If you

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Speaker 1: But at nine and a half, I'm going over on it.

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Speaker 1: I just like this team. I think they're getting to

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Speaker 1: the ten wins. They do have the propensity though, to

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Speaker 1: USC's defense was so bad last year, like you were

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Speaker 1: And they benefited from some of the most turnovers in

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Speaker 2: Well, here's my concern is if Caleb Williams misses one

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Speaker 1: So let's group these two teams that are both nine

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Speaker 1: And where would you peg them as far as their

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Speaker 2: It's tough. I mean Oregon. I like Oregon a little better,

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Speaker 2: a big problem. But Dan Lanning's is a defensive coach.

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Speaker 2: to outscore teams. I think Oregon can win some football

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, my projection sort of split the difference there.

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Speaker 1: I'm right around those numbers. I have Oregon at nine

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Speaker 1: but for instance, Michael Pennix is a guy who went

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what to think of this team.

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Speaker 1: We still have a couple of weeks until they kick

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Speaker 1: for a team that is eight and five. But if

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Speaker 1: it's totally healthy, I would feel confident about the over. Mike,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking I'm taking the over because I really well,

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Speaker 2: I believe in this roster. I believe in winning him.

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Speaker 2: I had them beating Florida last season in the opener.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised they lost. You know, they really didn't

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Speaker 2: think they were surprised, but they still should have won

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Speaker 2: that football game. They were a better team. They're a

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Speaker 2: better team than Florida. This year, it's a revenge tour

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Speaker 2: sort of, you know, let's beat Florida this time. They're

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Speaker 2: on our home turf. Their defense is excellent. Their linebackers

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Speaker 2: It's not Anthony Richardson this time. If Rising is out,

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Speaker 2: it's probably only going to be for one or two games.

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Speaker 2: I'm going under on both. Oregon State at a tremendous

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Speaker 2: And to your life, I mean, it's another year in

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Speaker 1: At Yeah, I'm going under on Wazoo. They lost so much,

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Speaker 1: and they'd done, you know, Western Kentucky had just done

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00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: the thing of oh let's grab ZAPPI, let's grab eight

431
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: guys from that offense, let's grab the offensive court, let's

432
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: hire everybody from Houston Baptist. And then the next year

433
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: was he was like, oh, let's do the same thing.

434
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of people are like, oh,

435
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: you know, cam Ward's going to be the next draft

436
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: pack and I think, you know, he threw for over

437
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: three thousand yards, and so I think some some people

438
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: just kept going along with that idea of like, oh,

439
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: cam Ward's an NFL quarter He's not an NFL quarterback.

440
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: He's stunk last year. Like I'm sorry. He did throw

441
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: for over three thousand yards, but he was not gut.

442
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: It was a lot of close to the line manufactured touches.

443
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: He made a lot of mistakes though with that stuff,

444
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: even though it was like layup throws for him, like

445
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: he did not sense pressure well, even though he was

446
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: allowed to get the ball out of his hands really

447
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: quick and he put the ball up for grabs a lot,

448
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: even though they did not trust him to throw down

449
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: the field. I do not trust cam Ward to make

450
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: a leap up in his game that is going to

451
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: require for Wazu to get comfortably over this number. I

452
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: think Wazu is absolutely in jeopardy of missing a Bowl game.

453
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me at all if they were a five

454
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: and seven team, wouldn't surprise me at all. There a

455
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: four and eight team, So I'm absolutely going under on them.

456
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of a couple other under teams. Now we're really

457
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: dropping to the bottom of the barrel, and then we'll

458
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Speaker 1: get to the funnest team at the bottom of the

459
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Speaker 1: barrel in this conference. But first, let Mike, let's talk

460
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Speaker 1: about cal who's five or five and a half depending

461
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: on where you look in the market, and Arizona States,

462
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: who is four and a half universally across the market.

463
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Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on those two teams.

464
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Speaker 2: I'd say under on both Arizona State. You know, Drew Pine,

465
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: I don't think is the solution. I think jayde Rashot

466
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: is going to play a lot there as a true freshman.

467
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: You know, Kenny Dillingham is a good offensive mind, but

468
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: he inherited a team that's not very good. He's got

469
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: fifty will not fifty. He's got forty plus portal guys.

470
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: It's a brand new roster. I mean, ever we talked

471
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Speaker 2: about for haul. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean it's gonna

472
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 2: be a rough year for them. You know, four and

473
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 2: eight would be a great year. But I'm still saying

474
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Speaker 2: under and then Cal. I just don't think they have,

475
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, an identity. They've got some solid players defensively.

476
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: I think he's a solid coach, But I don't see

477
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: anything that scares me on the outside. I don't see

478
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: a running game that scares me. You certainly don't see

479
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: quarterback play that scares me. Nothing to me. He says

480
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: that that's going to be a five and seven football team,

481
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: and five is under. So I think they're closer to

482
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: four and eight, and I would take the under. If

483
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Speaker 2: it's five and a half.

484
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Speaker 1: I'm under both those teams too. Cal My System's four

485
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: point two wins, you know, then they were five or

486
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: five and a half depending on your book. Definitely shade

487
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: them under. Really sad what's happening in justin Wilcox there.

488
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: They actually had the makings of a really fun offense.

489
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: If Plumber had come back, if Sturdivan had come back,

490
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: if up Byron Cardwell, who they got out of the

491
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 1: portal hadn't gotten injured, just recently different stuff like that.

492
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: But they got picked off in the portal. Then Cardwell

493
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: gets injured. I don't know what's going to go on

494
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: with there. They need to get lucky that snake's on

495
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: a plane, Sam Jackson the TCU transfer that he's good

496
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: right right out of the box, or that could be

497
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: a rough year on offense for them. I gotta go

498
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: under on that one. And then Arizona State. I totally

499
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: agree with you, Mike, Drew Pine is not the answer. Borgay?

500
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce that kid's name, Trenton Borgay.

501
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: He's definitely not the answer. We've seen plenty of that

502
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: kid last year, those two guys combined couldn't throw the

503
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: ball beyond forty yards if you combine their longest throw

504
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: is they got to get Rashada to just put Rashada in.

505
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: Let's start this thing right away. And I think Dillingham

506
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna be what he wants. That's his prerogative anyway,

507
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: right like, is to start building this thing out. So

508
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: I think that's the way that you're gonna see that

509
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Speaker 1: thing go. I totally agree with you. That's why I

510
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: would shade that thing under. Anyway, My system's got three

511
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: point nine wins on them, like, it's not a super

512
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: talented roster anyway. So and they the schedules not the

513
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: easiest either.

514
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Speaker 2: There.

515
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: So, going from the team that had the second most

516
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: transfer portal acquisitions in history to the most by margin,

517
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Speaker 1: the Colorado Buffalo is a team of endless, endless, endless intrigue, Mike,

518
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: a team set at three and a half wins in

519
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. You've seen so many takes on this team

520
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: over the offseason. Some people being like, you know, this

521
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: is brilliant and Dion's, you know, a gift to the sport.

522
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: Other people think of Dion's taking down college football, and

523
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: what is he doing trying to you know, NFL Eyes,

524
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: the Colorado Buffalos, everything like that. What do you think

525
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: about what he's doing at Colorado? And then what do

526
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: you think about the three and a half win total

527
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: that's been said on the Buffalo is for this coming season.

528
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Well, he's a miraculous higher. He's the best hire in

529
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: college football history from a return on investment standpoint. He

530
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: hasn't coached one game. They've been on national television for

531
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: their spring game, Yeah, on ESPN, and nobody cared about

532
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: this team. They were one and eleven last year. They're

533
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: in the news every day. Everybody's talking about him. What

534
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: he's done in the portal is cutthroat. It's probably not

535
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: of the highest character, but you know, Dion's going to

536
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: do what Dion does. The administrator is going to back

537
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: what he does. And now they're moving to the Big

538
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: twelve and saving their own lives. And they were actually

539
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: the first team a target of the Big twelve because

540
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: of Dion as opposed to a throw in with Arizona

541
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: Arizona State Utah before he was hired. So it's a

542
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 2: genius higher. He's not ruining college football. He's doing what

543
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: he needs to do. That being said, he's inheriting a

544
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: horrible roster. You know, he's perge most of them. He's

545
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: bringing in fifty plus hired guns, so to speak. You know,

546
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: guys that are leaving their teams, whether they were successful

547
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: or not successful, highly rated kids, but the schedule doesn't

548
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: play out at all for them to win four football games.

549
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: I dare you to find four. You might not find

550
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: three if you look. This is a two and ten,

551
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: three and nine football team this season. Shadhar Sanders is

552
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: the most overrated quarterback in college football. He's not ready

553
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: for this level and he doesn't have the weapons to

554
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: be ready for this level. There are people who out

555
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: there saying that he's a potential, you know, leave early

556
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: NFL guy, you know, first second round. None of that's true.

557
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: People don't know what to think of this team. But

558
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: when you look at the record, I mean, they're twenty

559
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: one point underdogs to TCU, and what Vegas is going

560
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: to do is they're going to make those lines low

561
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: and tantalize you. I would bet my mortgage on TCU

562
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: to cover that and every team after that. The lines

563
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: will correct themselves in Vegas after the first few games.

564
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: But you know, outside of Colorado State and including some

565
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: other teams that are really bad in the Pac twelve,

566
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: where is a potential guaranteed to win. So it's under

567
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: man you.

568
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: You were really spitting there, and I was even going

569
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: to put my hand up and start doing the preach

570
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: thing until you started shooting strays at Shadeer Sanders. Oh god, Oh,

571
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: we couldn't disagree stronger about Shadear. We're gonna have to.

572
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: See this, We're gonna find out, We're gonna file out.

573
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: We might have to do here, we will. Here's the

574
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: thing I was thinking about it with cam wardon. Everybody

575
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: wants to find that guy, you know in the NFL

576
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: that is a quarterback that isn't highly rated. They want

577
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: to be the smart one. Everybody wants to find that

578
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: FCS quarterback to going up to Power five, and they

579
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: want to be the smart guy. That's why people like

580
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: cam Ward. It's why people hung in on cam Ward.

581
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: And this is what it's happening with Seger Sanders. He's

582
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: FCS to Power five. It's going to be a real

583
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: awakening for him. Not just because he's not good. I'm

584
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: not saying he stinks he has no weapons. You could

585
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: throw Travis Hunter out there all you want. That's great.

586
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: He's a super stuper great cornerback, wide receiver at the

587
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: high school level. You know, he had his moments at

588
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: the FCS level. Different ballgame and it's not the SEC.

589
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: I get it. But there's some pretty darn good football players,

590
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: especially defensive backs in the Pac twelve this year for sure,

591
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: and so they're not going to be able to game separation.

592
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be able to get open for them.

593
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna dumb down the playbook. They're gonna try to

594
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: do a lot of quick throws because the offensive line

595
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: is gonna stink, and they're gonna try to get the

596
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: ball out of his hands passed, but it's just not

597
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: gonna work. So we definitely disagree on shir Sanders.

598
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking to the schedule, so that the non

599
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: con like you're I mean, no favors there. You open

600
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: on the road against TCUH. My system has adjusted underdog

601
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: of sixteen point three for Colorado and that one. Then

602
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: you're home against Matt Rules Nebraska. At least they're gonna

603
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: have a shot to win that. But I have Colorado

604
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: as a five point underdog in that one. Then you're

605
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: home against Colorado State, which that's one of your best

606
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: shots to win a game. Colorado State, though, I will say,

607
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: is going to be way better this year than they

608
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: were the year before. Moving into year two of that system,

609
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: last year was an aberration. You had to you know,

610
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: like all the guys were new and then they had

611
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of offensive line issues.

612
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: Dazzio is not a good coach.

613
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Dazzio is the worst cultion. Do you know that? Yea,

614
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: And yeah he's not mister congeniality either, mister Steve Dazio.

615
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: But yeh, So I have color Out eleven point seven

616
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: point adjusted favorite in that one, but like I said,

617
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: one of two games where I have them as an

618
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: adjusted favorite, or technically three, But the other ones in

619
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Week seven at home again Stanford twelve point adjusted favorite,

620
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: and then the other one I was saying technically because

621
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: they host Arizona Week eleven, I have Colorado as an

622
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: adjusted one point favorite. Those are the only three on

623
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: the entire schedule. The other games Oregon USC at, Arizona State, UCLA,

624
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Washington State, Utah. That is a frigging brutal schedule.

625
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Only one G five team, no FCS teams. You have

626
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: an unprecedented roster turnover a head coach. It's never a

627
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: coach in the Power five before or in the FBS before.

628
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: This could be tough. This is a tough assignment for

629
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: all college I.

630
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: Don't know each other. They haven't played. I mean, Sanders

631
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: said after this. I think it was after. It might

632
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: have been a recent practice, or it might have been earlier.

633
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: He's like, we got a lot of guys. I can't

634
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: tell you their names, but we got a lot of guys. Yeah,

635
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: because you don't know their names. You know Travis Hunter

636
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: because he was your teammate. You don't know any of

637
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: these guys. The defense, they're meeting each other in the

638
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: defensive huddle, they're shaking hands. There's no continuity, there's no cohesion.

639
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: This is just a bunch of strangers coming together as

640
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: an all star squad. And that's great. You can do

641
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: that at IMG in high school, you can do that

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Speaker 2: at Jackson State in FCS. You can't do that at

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Speaker 2: the Power FLIV level. So that's a real big concern

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Speaker 2: that both of us have about this team.

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Speaker 1: Mike, their name is Gucci.

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Speaker 2: Louis Oh Louis. I forgot Louis Vauton. Man, I know

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Speaker 2: you don't know that stuff. I do because I have

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Speaker 2: a wife and I try to keep her away from

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Speaker 2: that garbage. But yeah, Louis Vauton, it's expensive, and guess what,

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Speaker 2: it's overrated and it's not worth the Money's worth the money.

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Speaker 2: Dion has already brought that program potentially over the life

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Speaker 2: of his contract, about four hundred million dollars, the guys,

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Speaker 2: the best hire in the history of college football. And

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Speaker 2: he's going to go too, and ten or three and

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Speaker 2: nine in.

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Speaker 1: Year one and then we'll see. But guys, that's all

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Speaker 1: the time that we have for today, and that's going

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Speaker 1: to put a rap on our preseason series. Make sure

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Speaker 1: to circle your calendars for August twenty six, which is

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Speaker 1: only eleven days away from when we're recording today. I

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Speaker 1: can't believe we're that close. Saturday, August twenty six, our

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Speaker 1: very first live show of the year. Mike, you can

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Speaker 1: see this grin on my face. I can't wait when

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Speaker 1: Mike and I start doing our live shows on Saturdays,

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Speaker 1: bringing you, guys through the entire slate of college football games,

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Speaker 1: giving you our picks for all the day's games, make

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Speaker 1: sure you come and check us out on our first

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Speaker 1: episode what we'll be doing our Maiden voyage on August

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Speaker 1: twenty six, And if you missed any of our previous episodes,

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Speaker 1: the Big ten Notre Dame episode or the sec Big

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Speaker 1: twelve episode, you can check those previews out on YouTube

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Speaker 1: or on the podcast feed. So you check out all

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Speaker 1: that stuff, But until then, for Mike Farrell on Thorne

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Speaker 1: istram Let's catch cash from tickets