1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: I love you have a great. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Guy buy I love you too. I love you too. 3 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: Love that. 4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, sweearl, and welcome to the No Dumps podcast 5 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, January nineteenth. Thum J. 6 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: Skeet's rolling this morning with the bass Master, Ribond, M Lips, 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: Trey Kirby, hel Heyo. We got the international man of 8 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: mystery taking it to the Max Lee Ellis friend Lee, 9 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: last but not least, making the magic happen. It's JD. Hello, 10 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: there is, and here we are. I'm gonna save the 11 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: housekeeping until the show. I just want to dive right 12 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: in to five games. One thing here. We got some 13 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: news as well, of course, have tweeted the night. Yeah, 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: we're sharing some of our big takeaways from yesterday's MLK 15 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: Day slate of games. We'll get to at least five 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: of them. First one, and we got to start with 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: one of the better games from the season. Let's be 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: hon especially when it comes to the nationally televised games. 19 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Hold on, who's got the leaf blower blow? Oh? Hey, congrats, good. 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Win, good Win, Lily. I think the leaf blowers must 21 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: be listening to the show, and they're like, I think 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: they're about to go. Now, hang on, hang on, hang 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: on ten? 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: What is it? 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: Ten? I three? Okay, and stop blowing right now for it. 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: Guys, you think the leaf Blowers are in the stream 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: team right now on YouTube? 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: It's it's too much of a coincidence that that that 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: they're not in the stream team, So I think absolutely 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: they are. 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, well, congratulations on your wing. Usually Tray Turvey 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: with the leaf Flowers, but okay, Well, the game I 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: wanted to get to right away. It was the Bucks 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: versus the Nets, Harden and Durant. They star Nets edge 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: the Bucks one twenty five to one twenty three. Really 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: really fun game, Lely, what's your big takeaway? 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Well, potential Eastern Conference final matchup, and it lived up 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: to it. This was a great game. The Nets sort 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: of looked like they were starting to separate a little 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: bit in that sort of second half in the third quarter, 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: but the Bucks came back into it. And there's a 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: lot of things that little takeaway from this one. One 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: of them is the fact that the Bucks and the 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Nets defense of Yannis was largely like, we're going to 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: show as much disrespect to your shooting as possible, and 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan just parked himself in the paint at times, 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: and Yannas stepped up and knocked down a couple of 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the mea bort A couple as well. But if I'm Yannas, 49 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: I would have caused called a time out and said 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: to the Nets, listen, if you're going to disrespect me, fine, 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: but at least put a decent defender on me, because 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's defense has just fallen off a cliff. He's 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: an awful, awful defender, and for him to be disrespecting Yannas, 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: it's like, you're as bad a defensive player as Yannas 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: can be a as a shooter, So don't do that. 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Put at least Kevin Durand on him. So he's going 57 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: to at least get some disrespect from a respectful defender. Now, Honestly, 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean the Bucks came back into this and if 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you look at some of those plays in that fourth quarter, 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: it's DeAndre Jordan just doing nothing, having no awareness. Defensively, 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: he's a huge man. All he has to do is 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: box out a couple of times and put his body 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: in the way and the Nets probably get a couple 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: more of those rebounds or at least can test shots. 65 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: So I thought that was pretty bad. But the big 66 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: key as well of this game, I mean, the big 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: storyline is of course James Harden's second game, and I 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: thought he was fantastic once again. I thought he really 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: has inserted himself into that team by being patient and 70 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: by also waiting for his moments to play the sort 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of game that we've seen over these last few years, 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, doing that one on one, he gets to 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: his spots, he can hit those threes, he can go 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: inside and drive, and he's doing it at the right time. 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: But he's also finding his teammates as well at the 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: right time and just making the right plays. And he's 77 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: hustling on defense, and he's also hustling on offense. The 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: key play last night that resulted in the even around 79 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: three came off James Harden missing a three, getting his 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: own offensive rebound, and then firing it back out to 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Durand. And Kevin Durant actually didn't have a great 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: game shooting the ball. He missed a couple of those 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: bunnies that off you expect Kevin Durant to hit in 84 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: the first half, especially, but game was there to be 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: one and the ball just found its way to Kevin Durant. 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: He stepped into a gorgeous three pointer and knocked it down. 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: But again you're seeing James Harden really try to show 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: his teammates. Again, it's a little bit like, Hey, I'm 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: the new guy here in the gym. I want to 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: show you I'm working as hard as I can and 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: really setting up my teammates as best they can. But 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: when Kevin Durant's out on the court, it just sort 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: of feels it's always his team is always the one 94 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: that you want to be picking to win the game 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: because he had a rough night by his standards, But 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: when it was there to be one, Kevin Durant stepped 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: up and knocked down the big shot. So I thought 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: this was a very very fun game. You mentioned game 99 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: of the season. Certainly was game of the night there anyway, 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: or game of the day for MLK, and both teams 101 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: will probably look at this one and think, you know what, 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: there's some things we need to clean up if we 103 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: are going to face this team come playoff time. But certainly, 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're both teams got to feel pretty good 105 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: about themselves. I thought the Bucks defense was better than 106 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: the Nets defense. I think the Nets defense has got 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: some serious issues there. But good offense beats good defense. 108 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: And when you got two of those fantastic offensive players 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and hardened Durant, you can sort of paper over those 110 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: cracks a little bit. Joe Harris had another good game 111 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: as well, so they've got some shooters out there. But 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, he's a great player. He's a great player. 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: From the man who brought you, John Morant's fun to 114 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: watch because Kevin Durant is a good player. 115 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: That's a great take. Yeah, like Lee said that that 116 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: was a possible Eastern Conference Finals matchup. Trade. Now you 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: and I both know that's wrong. It's going to be 118 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: bulls Raptors. But but you know, Tas and I have 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars bet going on the NETS. Tasays, yeah, 120 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: after the hard and trade, Yeah, Nets are going to 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: the finals. They're going to be there. And I said, no, 122 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: you give me the fields. Let's make it interesting. We 123 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: had one hundred dollars on it. 124 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: Now. 125 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: Tasa is already counting his money, as you saw on 126 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: Twitter last night. He's feeling very confident here in January 127 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: after two games. 128 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: But you know, no, sure that Tass has multiple pictures 129 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 3: of him posing with hydred dollar bills, some stuck on 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: his forehead, some an immaculate balancing move at a karaoke spot. 131 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: That's why they call him money mellis exactly exactly. I 132 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: was going to tweet that as well, but instead I said, relax, Gary, 133 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: you're already count this money. And look, I guess at 134 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: this point, maybe I'm hoping that Katie tweaks an ankle 135 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: or something, because then they're definitely not going there because 136 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: he's that special. Or Kyrie comes back and somehow ruins everything, 137 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: you know, but they did. You know, that was a 138 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: hell of a win there, and there was a lot 139 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: of lead changes back and forth. But as as Lee said, 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: the rebound from Harden offensive board kicks it back out. 141 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Katie stepping into a three at the top, 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: that's like a layup, right, I mean, that's it. It's 143 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 2: like you knew it was going in, Like I didn't. 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: I know. He had had a rough sort of shooting 145 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: night as far as his nights go in that game, 146 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: but that was like, ye nu'ts it? You know, especially 147 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: anytime off an offensive rebound, it usually feels like it's 148 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: a three pointer, and if it's Katie stepping into one, 149 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: come on, lights. 150 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best time to take a three point 151 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: or coding to many Coach Steve's out there right after 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: an offensive rebound, people are scrambling Suddenly Kevin Durant wide 153 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: to open from the top. 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: Lee. 155 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: You mentioned DeAndre Jordan guarding Giannis. I thought the best 156 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: defense played on Giannis last night was by Mike Budenholzer, 157 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: because Jannis becomes a bystander far too easily. I feel 158 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: like in these games. You look at the last two 159 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: possessions in this game defensively, on this rebound where Harden 160 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: grabs it and kicks it off to Kadi at the top, 161 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: Jiannis is guarding Jeff Green for the entirety of this possession. 162 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: He's basically just standing in the corner. You're taking Giannis 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: out of the play before it even starts, because it's 164 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: not very likely that the Nets are gonna come out 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: there and decide that Jeff Green is the guy to 166 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: win them the game. It's gonna be Kadie and it's 167 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: gonna be James Harden right now. Obviously in the future 168 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: maybe they'll be Kyrie as well. But Jannis was just 169 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: standing there. He got a nice contest on the shot 170 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: that Harden took from the left wing, but that left 171 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: him out of position for rebounding. It was like, this 172 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: guy's the defensive player of the year. Don't you want 173 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: to get him involved somehow on the biggest play of 174 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: the game on the defensive side, then on the offensive 175 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: side of the ball. Understandable to go to Chris Middleton. 176 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: That man was cooking in the fourth quarter, so I 177 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: understand him getting the shot. But Yannis is just standing 178 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: at half court. The only thing he's gonna do is 179 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: maybe go in and run for a tip. You saw 180 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: him charge to the rim and jump to try and 181 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: maybe get a tip in or I don't know, have 182 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: to fault the ball fell short, he could grab it 183 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: and put it up something like that, but he obviously 184 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: wasn't involved in either of those plays. This guy's the MVP, 185 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: the defensive player of the year. You should be able 186 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: to use him somehow, you know. I thought it's just 187 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: a waste of Yannis's talent to be guarding Jeff Green 188 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: out there. Put him on Kevin Durant. You want a mobile, 189 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: tall guy, that's what Yannis is. 190 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that Lee. I know 191 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: Twitter was going nuts with that too. The honest slander 192 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: was cranked up to eleven or twelve, especially after the 193 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: airball and like Trace pointing out like he's guarding Jeff 194 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 2: Green half this game and he's not involved at the end. 195 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: You know what is what's Bud thinking? Is he just 196 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: keeping it close to the close to the chest for 197 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: a potentially some conference final, Like what's the reasoning here? 198 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you would hope not in January that 199 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: he's not thinking already to sort of June or July 200 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: or wherever. But I mean, part of it obviously falls 201 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: on the coach, but part of it, I guess falls 202 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: on Yannis as well. When you are the MVP, you 203 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: have to sort of take that leadership of like you know, 204 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to go and defend this guy. I'm going 205 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: to be here, I'm going to make my presence felt, 206 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in the paint, contesting shots, being 207 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: present and being big in the moment. I mean, that's 208 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. And on the offensive end, 209 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, talking again about about Yanna's if DeAndrea Jordan's 210 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: going to give him that shot, And as I said, 211 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: he hit a couple, but he also airborlled a couple. 212 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: But when he attacks, basically DeAndre Jordan just moved out 213 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the way. So that's where else Yannis can improve his games, Like, well, 214 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: if you're going to be that disrespectful to me, I'm 215 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: just going to go plowing in here because you can't 216 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: actually stop me. You can't really defend me all that well, 217 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: so it comes back to Jannis's leadership. He's a presence 218 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: and his awareness of just his impact on the game. 219 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: And if Budenholzer has said, listen, you just park yourself 220 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: in the corner on Jeff Green, he should be putting 221 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: his hand up saying no, no, no, no, no, that's 222 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: not the way we're going to go out I'm going 223 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: to go out there and I'm either going to defend 224 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: James or I'm going to defend Kevin Durant or I'm 225 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: going to be in the paint contesting shots. He can't 226 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: just be you know, passive like that. He has to 227 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: take a take a claim and say it. Now. Again, 228 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what was said in the huddle. 229 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: Maybe it was something about, you know, like if you're 230 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: on Jeff Green and we get the reband, just get 231 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: out and charge down the other end. Perhaps that's what 232 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: it was. Who knows, but you know, I think some 233 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: of the ownership here falls on the player because he's 234 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: the one out in the court. He's in the game, 235 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: and you see leaders who are like, no, no, no, 236 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm defending their best player. Michael Jordan wouldn't wouldn't be like, 237 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit in the corner and be passive on 238 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: this play. If there's a if there's a defensive possession needed, 239 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: your best player has to be the one who stands 240 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: up and says, I'll take him. I'll be there. 241 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: And that was the criticism of Jannis last year during 242 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: the playoffs, Right, why are you just standing to the 243 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: side and guarding whoever Bootenholzer tells you to guard. Look 244 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: at the last five minutes. Giannis took one shot, it 245 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: was off in offensive rebound. He had one offensive rebound. 246 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: That's it. He didn't do hardly anything the last five 247 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: minutes of this game. You got to get more from him. 248 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: He's just got to be better, because that is going 249 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: to be the biggest advance that the Bucks have against 250 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: the Nets when it comes down to it, is having 251 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: Giannis somebody who can just eat inside. If you're able 252 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: to get the performance like he got from Chris Middleton, 253 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: and you're able to be scoring this many points against 254 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 3: the nets for a team that has built their reputation 255 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 3: on the defensive end, Jannis has to be better. He's 256 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 3: got to be better on both ends. It's got to 257 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: be a dominating performance because that's how the Bucks are 258 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: going to get to the next level. Jannis has been 259 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: an MVP two straight seasons. We need to see that 260 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: MVP when it really really counts. 261 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, and I could see why 262 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: Tass is counting his money last night because if this 263 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: is a hypothetical series in the playoffs, second third round, whenever, 264 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: you know, it's cliche, but we will always go come 265 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: down to like, well, who's got the better player in 266 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: the series. And Giannis despite being a two time MVP, 267 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not him, right, It's not not With 268 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: KD playing the way he is right now coming off 269 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: of an injury, Yannest may not even be second. It 270 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: may not be you know, with Harden in two games, 271 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: you know, putting up thirty three and thirteens doesn't even 272 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: know half the plays yet, So yeah, I could see 273 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: why tass is feeling pretty good. Is there's Mney Mellows. 274 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: Somehow I probably took one of these photos. Is the 275 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: best part of all this, And now he's throwing it 276 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: back in my face. I love it. Tas was asking, 277 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, he's fine. I guess he said in me 278 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: paying him in American or Canadian, either way, it's fine 279 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: with Tassie. Yeah money Melose is going to spend it 280 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: now he's actually going to see it and turn it 281 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: into two hundred. So yeah, great game, though, really really 282 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 2: entertaining anything else, Trey or Leaf from this one that 283 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: jumped out, don't you. 284 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Kevin Durant had another chance to close 285 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the game out, basically to seal it there, and he 286 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: just fumbled it, which is something I'd never really see 287 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: from Conner. I sort of thought maybe someone there was 288 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: a foul there anything, but he just sort of was 289 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: like nap, that was just on me. And it's very 290 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: sort of rare to see him not even get the 291 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: shot off in that circumstance, because he got the ball 292 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: and I can't remember it might have been hard and 293 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: someone came over and he's just like, get out of here. Everyone, 294 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: just go and sit down if you want. I'm just 295 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: going to go and get this shot. Got to his position, 296 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: got to his spot, just rose up and just fumbled 297 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: the ball. Very unusual but didn't cost them in the end. 298 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: And of course he hit the big one. Just proud 299 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: of that anyway to give them the lead. 300 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: Middleton shot too close to going down. Oh yeah, not 301 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: far off. And I'm with you, Trey. I know some 302 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: people are like, where's the honest, where's the honest, where's 303 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: the honest? But you know, all things consider, Chris Middleton's 304 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: still an All Star and all NBA ish guy right there, 305 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: borderline guy, and he's got it going and he's had 306 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: to going all season. Man, I feel I don't feel 307 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: bad about him taking that shot at all. Some of 308 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: the other stuff, some of the other action, like you 309 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 2: were saying, down the stretch, Yannis has gotta be included. 310 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, that final shot, man, it almost drops and 311 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: then the Bucks are laughing with the victory. Yeah. 312 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: He went ten for twenty from the field, five of 313 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: six from the free throw line, and those are almost 314 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: bad shooting percentages from Chris Middleton. At this point, that 315 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: man was absolutely cooking. So yeah, he should get the shot. 316 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: There should just be a way that they can both 317 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: contribute offensively. You can't just be one or the other 318 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: of them, like you're seeing with the Nets. When both 319 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: of your guys are scoring, it's tough to stop the other. 320 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: Thing I would ask after this game, is Joe Harris 321 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: going to be an All Star? Seems ridiculous. It seems ridiculous. 322 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: He's only averaging fifteen a game, but he's also shooting 323 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: fifty one percent from three. Obviously the Nets are going 324 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: to be good. You think back to the Kyle Korver 325 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: All Star season. Joe Harris is having a Kyle Korver 326 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: like season percentages wise, and obviously if he's open, you 327 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: think it's going in. He's Kay Thompson out there right now. 328 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: I think it's in the realm of possibility. We'll see 329 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: how things play out over the next couple of months. 330 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: But if the Nets go on a huge streak here, 331 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: if they're clearly the best team in the Eastern Conference, 332 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: if it takes Kyrie a while to get back, so 333 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: that Joe Harris is clearly established as the number three 334 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: player for the Nets, it could. 335 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: Happen m far fetch, But I see what you're thinking there, 336 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: especially with the Korver comparison, they'd have to like just go. 337 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: We'd have to see like the nets run off like 338 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: a Hawks, like you know, like nineteen yeah, exactly, like 339 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: nineteen straight or something. Here's my question too, because you 340 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: made me think about it with those shooting numbers from 341 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: distance from Joe Harris. We're obviously not having an All 342 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: Star game this year. We in series think we're getting 343 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: All Star selections. I don't know why we wouldn't. Are 344 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: we gonna have a three point contest? 345 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: Though? 346 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: Like? Why not? Like the I mean, the dunk contest 347 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: is uh, you know, okay, you're asking that's a little 348 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: more physical. You're asking from these guys and stuff like that. 349 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: Let's give them a break. But let's get the let's 350 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: get the shooters together. 351 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: Why not, you know, he come on, Yeah, let's go 352 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: one further. JD. If you're listening there right at you 353 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: and I try to figure out a way to get 354 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: my three point shoot, you can come out and shoot that. 355 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: Well. Actually we could just do I mean, the NBA 356 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: could do J has hed, the NBA could do a 357 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: virtual three point contests. Yeah, rights obviously get them access 358 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: to a gym. Set it up. The racks are the 359 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: racks that the three point line is the three point line. 360 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: Ain't nothing really changing. I guess you're shooting in different barns, 361 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: but uh yeah, man, I hope that happens. I love 362 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, we're big fans of the three point contest here. 363 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: It always delivers. Joe Harris will be in it for 364 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: sure with the way he's shooting it right now. All right, 365 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: next game here, let's keep it going. Warriors rally from 366 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: fourteen down in the fourth quarter to beat the Lakers 367 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: one fifteen, one thirteen. This was a morning watch for me. 368 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: I didn't stay uplast night to watch this one train. 369 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you did. I know you're a bit 370 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: of a night owl recently. So what's your big takeaway? Oh? 371 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: I was up skeets, unlike the Lakers. I was not sleepwalking. 372 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh. 373 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: Finally caught up to the Lakers. Though last night they 374 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: led most of this game. It felt like it was 375 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: gonna be the Lakers that we've seen this entire season. 376 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: He kind of snoozed through the first three quarters. Lebron 377 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: takes off the warm ups and takes over down the stretch. 378 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: Didn't happen like that. 379 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Though. 380 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: The Warriors gotta love this one because it wasn't just 381 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: Steph Curry. He was good eight points in the fourth quarter. 382 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: He hit that massive three over Anthony Davis, dancing on him, 383 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: dotting his eyes from the top of the key. But 384 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: it was really everybody for the Warriors in this one. 385 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: There was a huge second half from the Rascal Eric Pascal, 386 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: ten of his nineteen in the second half, taking it 387 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: to Montrez Harald time and time again. Brad Iguana Maker 388 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: couple important buckets, He had some nice dishes off the dribble, 389 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: had the Lakers saying enough wanna Maker and of course 390 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: Ubre Oasis looking like the energy guy the Warriors thought 391 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: they had traded for. He had a couple of baskets 392 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: the dribble, He had a big steal in the fourth quarter. 393 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: Then when it really came down to it, Stephan Draymond 394 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: the pick and roll was taking him home. The Wakers 395 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: they're not going to be concerned. This is the first 396 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: time in two hundred and eighty five games a Lebron 397 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: team has lost a home game after having a double 398 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: digit lead heading into the fourth But this is a 399 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: great strength in numbers win for the Warriors. They got 400 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 3: to go back to this tape and say, look, we 401 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: can win without a huge steph game. It just takes 402 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: something from everybody. Great contributions up and down the roster 403 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: for the Warriors last night an impressive win. If you 404 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: went to bed like Lee did, I'm sorry. 405 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Hey, give me the confidence, Kelly, you bray junr. Who's 406 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: shooting twenty percent from downtown to hit a three and 407 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: blow a kiss? 408 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: Tell ya that's the energy you need in twenty twenty one. 409 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: I can't believe it. Okay, what type of what percentage 410 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: does a guy need to be shooting from three? Lee 411 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: in your mind for him to blow a kiss? At 412 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: at least in the thirties. 413 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: I mean thirty nine, I think at least. But but 414 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: also it has to be like you're eight three of 415 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: the game. It has to be late. 416 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: You have to be getting into it with your opponent 417 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: as well. Was that his first or a second? I 418 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: don't care. 419 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: Remember, I think it might have only been his first one. 420 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: But I'm just like, you got a tea for it. 421 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, okay, the tea wasn't justified. I don't 422 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: care about that. I'm just like, how could you be 423 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: blowing kisses when twenty percent from the. 424 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: Poor the best game of the season. He did twenty 425 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: three points, nine, two steals, two blocks. He's a plus 426 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: five in a lot of minutes. 427 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, because this happened early in the game, and I 428 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: was ready to tweet something, and I thought the more 429 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: I watched him, like, actually what he did, he didn't 430 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: have a bad game. He actually got it together. He 431 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: played well enough that he doesn't deserve much more ridicule 432 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: than just a little bit here on the show. But 433 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: talk about beautiful shots. That's Steph Curry one that the 434 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: seiler right at the end there where he just shook 435 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: off Anthony Davis and then launched that bomb. I mean 436 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: the ability to create space. I mean he got Anthony Davis. 437 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if Anthony Davis was expecting him maybe 438 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: to drive, but instead Steph's steps Steph steps back even 439 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: further and just has to shoot it over those gigantic 440 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: arms of Davis and knocks it in and then he 441 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: does a little dance at the end. He was feeling 442 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: so good about it he couldn't and then he missed 443 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: one on the next play down, so they couldn't sort 444 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: of finish the Lakers off, and they kept it close enough. 445 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: But man, when you see Steph Curry hitting those sort 446 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: of shots, it's it's a beautiful game to watch, a 447 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to watch, but it's the Lakers and it's Lebron. 448 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: So unfortunately you have to flush this game down the 449 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: toilet as well. 450 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, flash it. 451 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: This was a game you have to because it's just 452 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: Lebron and the Lakers really botched that final possession to 453 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: the point where a coach Vogel call a time out 454 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: to try to get something going there and Lebron he 455 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: missed that one by a fair bit in the end, but. 456 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: A three pointer at the end game. 457 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it's Lebron and it's the Lakers, and 458 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: they're just sort of like, yeah, you can't take anything 459 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: out of it. You just cannot. But good comeback from 460 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: the Warriors anyway. 461 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's crazy they won this game. They 462 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: got out rebounded by eighteen. The Warriors did fifty to 463 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: thirty two. You know, Tray said it. Steph did not 464 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: have like an incredible Steph game by any means. He 465 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: shot eight of twenty two from the floor and three 466 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: to twelve from deep and he was great, you know, 467 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: hitting that big shot late. But this wasn't like a 468 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: forty or fifty point Curry. And I hear, yeah, this 469 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: was just like all these other guys contributing Wiggins Uber, 470 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: I mean, Draymond Green hitting layups in the final couple 471 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 2: minutes like it. It felt like a layup party there 472 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: at the end for the Warriors just getting inside. And 473 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: the Lakers in the fourth quarter shot six and nineteen, 474 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: you know, after shooting fifty three percent over the first 475 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 2: three quarters, so they just like they fell asleep. But yeah, Warriors, 476 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: they're not going to care whether or not the Lakers 477 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: were trying up to you know, their capabilities or not. 478 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: And so win's a win, and that's a good one, 479 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: especially for that strengthen numbers mantra that Steve Kurr is 480 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: always pushing, like he said TK, like everybody's got a 481 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: contribute and we can get the victory. So that's a 482 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: nice way. And I also like the I'm sure you 483 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: guys caught this, the Draymond Green coaching up James Wiseman, 484 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: who did not have a good game as a rookie 485 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: in this one, but you know, he's miked up and 486 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: we were getting some of those Oh I mean, I 487 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: love that stuff. I mean, we're basketball geeks, so of 488 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: course we're gonna love that. But it's cool here and 489 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: Draymond telling him like what to do and what he 490 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: should be doing, or why you're not looking at you? 491 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: What's going on there? I thought that was really neat. 492 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: I'd love to buy a Draymond Green Defensive Instruction DVD 493 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: cent like, that's the kind of thing, like remember back 494 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: in the day, You're like, oh, I gotta learn these 495 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: post moves. I'm gonna watch two hours of an old 496 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: man alone in a basketball gym doing post moves, doing 497 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: how to play defense. Draymond teaches it in a way 498 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: that's so accessible, even when you're just getting little snippets, 499 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: little snippets here and there. I remember on the broadcast 500 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 3: last year he knocked Nikola Jokic for his defensive effort 501 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: during the Nuggets first round series, and Jokic obviously must 502 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: have been listening because he turned it around. Suddenly they 503 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: were playing great defense. They pull off a couple of 504 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: three one comebacks. Everybody can learn from Draymond. Another hilarious 505 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: miked up moment was in this first game that we 506 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: were just talking about DeAndre Jordan. 507 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 2: They did have miked up. 508 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was over there chatting up everybody about 509 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: how to play defense, even Marv and Chris Webber. After 510 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: we were like, everybody looking at DeAndre like, this is 511 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: the first time he's been talking to me. 512 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah, he's turned it 513 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: on for the mics for sure, for the cameras. All right, 514 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: our next game on hold on one last note, one 515 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: last note. 516 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: Dennis Shrewder an epic flop in this game. Andrew Wiggins 517 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: has them posted up, gives him a couple of bumps. 518 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: Shrewder goes down, lays in the lane. 519 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: For a four count. 520 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Maybe he was just laying there. 521 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: Wiggins kicks it out. Eventually the ball goes down the 522 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: other way, But I don't know. I was at first, 523 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: I was like, is Dennis Shrewder actually hurt here? No, 524 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: he was just pouting that he didn't get the charge call. 525 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: But wow, flop of. 526 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: The season so far. Oh wow, Phantom of the flop, right, 527 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: you want to get that? Excellent. Our next game was 528 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: the first game of the TNT tripleheader, and it was 529 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: John Morant seventeen points, ten assists helping the Grizzlies top 530 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: the Suns one, one oh four. This was back to 531 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: back to back good games on TNT last night. You know, 532 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: all close games down the stretch. Grizzlies won their fifth straight. Lee. 533 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: You had set it on Monday's show because we were 534 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: doing weekend winners and losers. John Morant coming back on 535 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: the weekend. You gave the Grizzlies and Jaw a winner 536 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: of the weekend because he said this Leak's just better 537 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: when he's in it, because he's that talented, he's that 538 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: fun to watch, and he was awesome down the stretch 539 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: in this game. Again, it's only seventeen to ten, but 540 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: it was the plays in a tight game that were incredible. 541 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: He had the assist to Grayson Allen in the corner 542 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: with about a minute and change left that gave Memphis 543 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: to three point ly, just Gorgon like going through bodies, 544 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: just contorting his body and then wrapping around to Grayson 545 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: Allen who knocked it down and then he had an 546 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: unbelievable drive. And you had pointed this out, Lee, where 547 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: he does that Nash like thing where he doesn't put 548 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: this other hand on the ball, he just drove around 549 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: I guess it was eighting on the left hand side 550 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 2: and just never putting his right hand on it, just 551 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: scooped it up off the glass and got the layup 552 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: to drop And that was like with thirty seconds left. 553 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: And then on the ensuing possession, Morant out Chris Paul's 554 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: Chris Paul by taking a charge against Chris Paul to 555 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: maintain the Memphis late. It was one of those ones 556 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: where it's like, you know, he's backing up, he's not stationary, 557 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: he's like moving his feet trying to stand in front 558 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: of the ball handler and Chris Paul and you know, 559 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: a little chicken wing maybe from CP three. Didn't Moran 560 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: sell it or not, or was he just off balanced? Anyway, 561 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: he gets the call and again very Chris Paul Lake 562 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: the way he finished this game, John Morant. 563 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't love that charge, corp. But again because 564 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: it was Chris Paul, it was like fair enough, you know, 565 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: because that's exactly what he does, that sort of flailing. 566 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: He went like about ten feet outside the court as 567 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: well afterwards to really sell it. But yeah, the great 568 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: thing about Moran here is again he's not lighting up 569 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: the box score by any means by having to carry 570 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: and drag the Grizzlies here to victory. Like they're getting 571 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: a great contribution from so many players on their team. 572 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: But in those crucial moments that played by Moran where 573 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: he broke down the defense and then fired it out 574 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: to Grace and another that was a Chris Paul type 575 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: sort of player, well to hit the guy in the 576 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: perfect spot with that pass and he knocked down the 577 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: three pointer. And then he did he came back and 578 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: he was like, well, I see a little opening him 579 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: and he went in and floated it up high off 580 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: the glass. You asked me to even clip that one, skitzy. 581 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, because you had clipped the you had 582 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: clipped the Gres and Allen. But uh give me give 583 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: me that smooth layup. Yeah, you were right there. That 584 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: was quick. 585 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's just it's just fun to watch. 586 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: So a really good win here from the from the Grizzlies, 587 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what to sort of make of 588 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: their ceiling. I think they're a playoff caliber team. I'm 589 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: not sure they can get past the first round yet. 590 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: I think this is still a young team with plenty 591 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: of growth. But you like the fact that Jenkins has 592 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: all of those guys out there working. Doesn't really matter 593 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: what combination is out there. Guys work hard on the 594 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: defensive end and on the offensive end. That ball just 595 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: keeps on moving around to try to find whoever's open 596 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: or whoever can knock down the shot. And I don't 597 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: know if you guys remember I mentioned the Xavier Tilman 598 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: looks a little bit like Larry Johnson out there. Yeah, 599 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you notice that, because 600 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: he's also got the big sort of arm sleeve as well. 601 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: Out there, he's got the scrubby, he's got the scruffy beard. 602 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: It's like, man, Grandmama is back in the league. This 603 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: is incredible. 604 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: He was pumped a star the skin too, and Pass 605 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: addressed it on What You Need to Know on his 606 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: little mini podcast there this morning. That was great. I 607 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: was happy for him and Grayson Allen Man hitting those 608 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: four free throws down the stretch Ley, you know, I mean, 609 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: you got to seal the game, and he preserved the 610 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: win for them there by knocking them down. He had 611 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: a good game. He's been playing actually pretty well. Yeah, 612 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 2: greats and Ellen well, he can never not look at 613 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: that kid and say, man, he looked like Ted Cruz, 614 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: tries me, I can't look at him. I just can't. 615 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: I hate him because he looks like Ted Cruz. But 616 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: he's playing really, really well in this game too. I 617 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: mean it turned when Devin Booker missed a dunk. It's 618 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: like two minutes. It was like two minutes ago he 619 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: puts that down. They were up two at the time. 620 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: That puts it to four and he just came up 621 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 2: short on it, just put it in the front of 622 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: the rim, like me at tempting a dunk. And yeah, 623 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: that was a bit of a game changer there, because 624 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: he had a stinker, massive run. 625 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: He had a stinker of a knot. Anyway, Devin book 626 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Are only twelve points, couldn't shoot last night? Oh yeah, 627 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: he had a bit of a rough one, but just 628 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: wanted to think quickly. Back to the Grizzlies, Tye Jones 629 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: again off the bench as well. He was very good 630 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: for them, hitting some of those floaters down the stretch too. Yep, 631 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's sort of playing his way into a 632 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: very nice role with that team. So I like the 633 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Grizzly Like I say, their combinations keep sort of changing, 634 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: but that's good. It's a good problem there for Jenkins 635 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: to have because Dylan Brooks didn't really have it himself 636 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 1: last night, So they got someone else who can come 637 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: in and hit some shots and make some play for 638 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: that team. So yeah, fun win, fun win for the Grizz. 639 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Anything to add trade from this one, Nope. I 640 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: will say this, Devin Booker, I'm glad you brought that up. 641 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: Five or twenty one last night. Zero free throw attempts, 642 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: and he has not had a great start to this season. 643 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 2: He's only averaging twenty two points per game, which is 644 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: very low for him. He's had you know, two or 645 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: three duds. Actually had he had this this game last night. 646 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: I think he has an eight point performance under his belt. 647 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: I know he didn't play huge minutes on that one, 648 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: but I'm not freaking out. Yeah. I thought I saw Espo, 649 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: who was a diehard Suns fan. I saw him tweet 650 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: this last night, and I think he's right. Dean book 651 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: is going to be fine. Him and Chris Paul are 652 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 2: still learning how to get on the same page here, 653 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: and that Booker will very likely get back to that 654 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: all star level when it comes to score and shooting 655 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: the ball and a little reminder that Espel had out 656 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: there was that, Okay, see with Chris Paul last year 657 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: started eight and twelve. Last year, you know, they didn't 658 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: come out, you know, surprising people right out of the gate. 659 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: It took a little while for Chris Paul to you know, 660 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: probably get comfortable himself working around at the time Shay 661 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: and Intruder and stuff like that. So maybe that's happening here. 662 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Sons are still you know, 663 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 2: have a great record getting wins, but kill Bridges looks great, 664 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: Cameron Johnson's impressed me. And then Eyton. The real reason 665 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: they went and got Chris Paul, I think was to 666 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: like take Eyton's game to the next level. And I 667 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: think that's getting there. So I don't think you got 668 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: a freak out if you're a Devin Booker fan or 669 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: a Suns fan, just quite yet. 670 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ayton stuff is weird though, Ayton when he does 671 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: not look as much of an offensive player this year, 672 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: he almost looks like a defensive center out there who's 673 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: learning his way on the offensive end, which is the 674 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: complete inverse of what it's been going for a couple 675 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: of seasons of his career. He just doesn't really look 676 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: for his shot anymore. I think it's probably tough for 677 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: him to figure out exactly he fit in around Devin Booker, 678 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: who has a high usage player campball, who likes to 679 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: control the ball, but big guys usually succeed playing alongside 680 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: Chris Paull, it's weird to see him taking a little 681 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: bit step backwards on the offensive end. 682 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a little bit. Yeah. A hell of a 683 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 2: dunk there last night. You got shock excited on the 684 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: TNT broadcast. There he was looking like young Shack with 685 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: that dunk, the one where he went baseline and then 686 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: threw it down there side was awesome. So big, big 687 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: win for the Grizzlies. And man, my final thought with 688 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: John Moran, I know I've said this before, but I 689 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: gotta keep saying it. I'm so damn impressed when I 690 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: watch him play, right, He's a star, as we just 691 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: talked about, like he just he just has that something 692 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: special within him, like to sort of take over games, 693 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: set guys up, and then you hear him in the 694 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: postgame interviews and stuff like that, and I'm even more impressed. 695 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: He just like is like feels like the epitome of 696 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: just a leader at a crazy young age. It's just 697 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: like always like blows my mind talking to the guys 698 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: obviously back in the TNT studio and just like he 699 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: just he just gets it. That's the easiest way for 700 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: me to put it. And man, I hope he stays healthy. 701 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: I know you're always worried lately because you should have 702 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: an incredible, incredible career ahead of him. It's crazy, all right, 703 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: Trey had to get this one in for you. A 704 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: big guy. Bulls beat the Rockets one twenty five, one 705 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: twenty high score an affair. Oladipo did look solid in 706 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: his Houston debut. But what's your big takeaway? The Bulls 707 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: are back? 708 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 3: No, I know what you're thinking, Skates, Weren't. 709 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: The Bulls already back? Are they back to five hundred? 710 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: They were? Then they were not back, but now they're 711 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: back again because the Bulls finally closed out a fourth quarter. 712 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: JD hit that celebration music. No, no, oh, yeah, I 713 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: guess I probably should have asked for it before, but 714 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: we talked about it briefly yesterday. The Bulls lost four 715 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: to row last week by a total of eleven points. 716 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: Fourth quarters have been a struggle for Chicago. It could 717 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: have been the same script last night. The Balls got 718 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: off to a big lead. They're up by almost twenty 719 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: after the first quarter. It got tight again in the fourth. 720 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: I had a nets Bucks on the big screen, the 721 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: Bulls on the small screen. I'm just counting down the 722 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: points to Laura. Six point game, four point game. Oh boy, 723 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,239 Speaker 3: put on my hood, tucked in my shirt, said this 724 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: is the one in the fourth quarter. Because for once, 725 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: it wasn't all on Zach Levine. He was magnificent. I 726 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: thought thirty three points, seven assists. He had a nice 727 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: dunk on a fast break, a little two hand er. 728 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: He was making big plays, but the big plays involved everybody. 729 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: For it felt like the first time all season. Three 730 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: minutes left, Levine gets trapped. They are getting the ball 731 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: out of his hands because he's on fire. He dumps 732 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: it to Thad Young. He hits a three one minute left, 733 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: not o. Lavine stepped back for the first time in forever, 734 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 3: four passes before a lowery market in three from the 735 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 3: right side, from the right wing, he knocks it down 736 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: on a night where he was struggling huge to see 737 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: a clutch shot. The ball was fizzing all night. There 738 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: were multiple vsps least tweeting at me, I appreciate your 739 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: team for this. 740 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate you too, Lee. 741 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: Seven balls in double figures, a backbreaking play that involved everybody. 742 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: This is like young team that just honestly doesn't know 743 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: how to win. They would get so close in these 744 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 3: fourth quarters. 745 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: Last week. 746 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 3: They beat the Maps pretty easily on Sunday, but they 747 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: got so close in. 748 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: These fourth quarters. They just were one play away. 749 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: There were one play away from pulling off any of 750 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: these kind of wins, and they were unable to make 751 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: it until last night when Markinen hit the huge three, 752 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: and it just had to be a huge relief for everybody. 753 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: It had to be nice for Zach Levine to dish 754 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: the ball away. It goes to Kobe White, I think 755 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 3: in the corner, he drives baseline, He kicks it back 756 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: up to the levine. He says, not this time again. 757 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: Marking In steps up and hit the three. It's got 758 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: to be great for Zach Levine to say I don't 759 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: have to do it all on my own, and it's 760 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: great for marketing to say, yeah, I'm struggling, but I'm 761 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: still part of this team. They still trust me to 762 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: hit the huge shots. That's how you build trust amongst 763 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: your teammates. This is a team that has had a 764 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 3: lot of decent pieces, a lot of pieces that could pop, 765 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 3: and last night it felt like they were a team actually, 766 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: So shout out to the Bulls. 767 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: They are back. Well, let me ask you this tray 768 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: because I saw you tweeting about it. I listened to 769 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: it as well the Daily Ding Our guy Dave Defour, 770 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: we've had him on throwing out that idea of the 771 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: Bulls looking to trade Zach Levine, you know, should they 772 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: thrown it out there? And he's not alone. I've seen 773 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: other peace you know, suggesting this. What does Trey Kirby 774 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: say to the idea of the Bulls, you know, cashing in? 775 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: I guess now, Zach Lavine playing at an all star 776 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: like level, what do you think? 777 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: I think you mean all star level skeets. You can 778 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: book him for this game. That's not going to be 779 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: happening the announcement, though it will be made. It's understandable 780 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: Levine has been ballin. He's been one of the best 781 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: players in the Eastern Conference for the past week. He's 782 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: putting up like thirty five a game. But you were 783 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: definitely starting to see the free Zach Lavine sort of things. 784 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: And he's definitely got to be a target for a 785 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: team like the Sixers, who could use his ability to 786 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: score off the dribble, his ability to space the court, 787 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: and he's just an athletic marvel. So you wonder if 788 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: maybe there's something more to tap into defensively as well. 789 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 790 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: To me, the time the. 791 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: Bulls are really going to need to trade Levine is 792 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: when they have reached a status where it seems like 793 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: they can't go any further. To me, he is a 794 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: DeMar de Rosen on the Toronto Raptors, a multiple time 795 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 3: All Star. But when the Bulls, or when the Raptors 796 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 3: really got serious about winning, they had to trade DeMar 797 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: to bring in Kawhi Leonard. And I think that's going 798 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: to be the same thing for the Bulls. They need 799 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: to build around Levine, they need to get in some 800 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: All Star appearances, and then when it becomes clear that 801 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: they've reached their ceiling with him as the go to guy, 802 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: maybe everybody else has grown enough that you can entice 803 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 3: a star to come there, a real star, because Levine, 804 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: he's going to be in the All Star conversations. You know, 805 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: he's not going. 806 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: To be a lock. 807 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: He's not going to be a guaranteed guy, and he's 808 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: not necessarily going to take you to the next level. 809 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 3: I think he can take you to the good level. 810 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: Somebody else will take the Bulls to the great level. 811 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: But right now I'm just riding the way. That guy 812 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: was on fire. He has been for the entire time, 813 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: and last night he was passing the ball and it 814 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: worked out crazy. 815 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's averaging twenty seven and a half points per 816 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: game basically, and five and five and a steal and 817 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, he's played great this year for the Bulls. 818 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: And there's Bulls are six and eight. I mean they're 819 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: back almost a five hundred, getting very very close to 820 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: only three games out of a playoff spot. I think too, 821 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: it's so jammed up there. But anything to add there? 822 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: Lee, Well, he's shooting a good ball too. Zach Lavine 823 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: thirty good? 824 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: Is he a beautiful shooter of basketball? Is that's safe 825 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 2: to say? 826 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Hey, we had a real life jar rule meme there 827 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: when Trey said hit the music and JD wasn't ready. 828 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: It's like, Oh, you gave, you gave, you gave g 829 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: a heart attack. You can't do that. You gave me 830 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: a heart attack too, So I was like, is this 831 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 2: in the dark. I don't know we're doing this. Let's 832 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: go on. 833 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean all those bulls points are very valid. 834 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: I just thought Victor Oladepot, Yeah, he looked very, very 835 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: good for his first game with the Ruckets. So yeah, 836 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: this is this is a great first situation for Rolla 837 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: Deepot if he could really sort of get to that position. Though, 838 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: John Wall again there last night, he's like, hey, I'm 839 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: still a pretty good play. You might want to invest 840 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: in me some big bucks. I mean he's got a 841 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: similar actually to Zack Lavine. It's like he's not a 842 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: number one guy, but a very solid sort of one A, 843 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, two guy whichever however you want to sort 844 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: of frame it there, because I think playing along the 845 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: right guy, those those sort of guys can really thrive. 846 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, I follow Deepe stays healthy. He's in a 847 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: good spot to earn himself some big bucks next season. 848 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: So do you do the thing where the number one 849 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 2: guy is one and then the second guy is one A, 850 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 2: or do you make the number one guy one A 851 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: and the second guy one B. Or do you just 852 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: got one too. 853 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it depends, doesn't it. I mean, like like 854 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, for example, Kevin Durant's number one. It's Kevin 855 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Durant's number one, one A or one. He's number one. 856 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: He's like he's there's there's like only a handful of 857 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: guys in the NBA who are like number one guy, right, 858 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's one, Lebron's the other, Steph's probably the other. 859 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: And that's probably about all for now for now. Wow, Okay, 860 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, I can't put him in that. 861 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: Same as a one A. I think Jannis is a 862 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: one A right now. James Harden is. 863 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: A one A. James Harden is a one A. You know, 864 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is a one A. 865 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is Okay, see where you're going here now? Okay? Yeah, 866 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: and then you've got you go one B to go two. 867 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 2: Let's go to next came pick that one over final 868 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: game that we're gonna touch on. Unfortunately we're not getting 869 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 2: to the mall. We're gonna go with the heat. Though 870 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 2: they rallied from nineteen down to beat the Pistons one thirteen, 871 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: one oh seven to end a bit of a slide. Okay, 872 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: people are probably going, what are you talking about the 873 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: Heat's Pistons game. Why aren't you talking about the Hawks 874 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: getting a win and the Raptors getting their third straightway. Well, look, 875 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: here's why with this game. First off, it was supposed 876 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: to start at three PM, and it didn't start until 877 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: like eight because it was delayed by the NBA to 878 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: allow time for COVID nineteen test to be a process. 879 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: So that had to be in a weird day game 880 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: or game. Excuse me for both of these teams heading 881 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: into the game. Jeremy Grant, JD. I know you have 882 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: this because I told you about it in advance. Jeremy Grant, 883 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: did you guys see him in the Gold Pistons throwback? Yeah? 884 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: Just a beautiful jersey, now, Trey, I don't think the 885 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: Pistons ever actually wore this jersey, right, This is just 886 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 2: like one of those yeah, like fashion jerseys that gold metallic. 887 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: I remember seeing a Utah Jazz like this too, that 888 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell was wearing once playing time. Anyway, Jeremy Grant, 889 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: I want to point that out because cool looking people 890 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: think that he's uh, you know, he's sending a message 891 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: to the Pistons organization, like, hey, let's bring back not 892 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 2: the gold version because they never wore that, but that 893 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: that Grant Hill teal horse like Pistons Jersey. You know, 894 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 2: I'll get it back in the mix. Looks pretty cool. Like, 895 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 2: but he's averaging twenty five six and three Jeremy Grant 896 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: is over a block and a steel per game. He's 897 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 2: shooting forty seven percent on the floor, thirty nine percent 898 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: from three, eighty six percent of the line. Yeah, his 899 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 2: minutes are up from last year in Denver, like ten 900 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: minutes per game more. I get that. But his per 901 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: thirty six stats they're up as well still, you know, 902 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: exceeding expectations there in Detroit as a as the one 903 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: Hmmm is he a one A guy or a one 904 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: B guy? I don't even know where to put him anyway, 905 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: his usage percentage is extremely high, but he is delivering, 906 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: and uh I think, I mean, it's going to be 907 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: hard pressed for anybody to catch him for most Improved, right, Like, 908 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 2: I know there are guys like there are other guys 909 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: that a Bouchet is definitely in the mix. He's played 910 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 2: incredibly well here for the Raptors, but it's his numbers 911 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: are just like they're twice as good and he's like 912 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: the star out Now will he be well? People hould 913 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: his numbers against him? If the Pistons have fifteen wins, 914 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: does that matter for most improved? Do you guys care? 915 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: Does a team need to be good? I don't know 916 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: the team. 917 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: The team doesn't need to be good, but they need 918 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: to be watchable. And outside of Jeremy Grant, the Pistons 919 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: are a tough watch. No, they're a tough watch. I mean, 920 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, we talked a lot about Kevin Durant on 921 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: the Nets and John Moran on the Grizzlies. If Jeremy 922 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: Grant isn't on the Pistons, it's tough to watch them 923 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: too excited. I mean, Myles Plonny had a huge dunk 924 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: last night doing bam, nice dunk, but it was like 925 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: other than that, it's like it's just rough. I mean, 926 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: they don't have that superstar talent, and I mean that's 927 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: that's what people tune in for. It's like you can 928 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: watch a team lose if they've got like a fun 929 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: player to watch, and Jeremy Grants a fun player. He's 930 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: not that sort of like, oh, you must tune in 931 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 1: and watch him. But you know, if you are watching 932 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: the Pistons game, you want to see a good one 933 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: from Jeremy Grant was he was fun last night. 934 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, well, I think he's running away with this 935 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: award unless people are just like they hold it against 936 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: him because they just look at the ten more minutes 937 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: per game. But that happens a lot. Like that's like 938 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 2: a Turkolu thing and stuff like that, Like that happens 939 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: all the time with this award. Anyway, he's playing really 940 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: really well. Yeah, but Miami got the win. Still without 941 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, still without Avery Bradley, no Tyler hero in 942 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 2: this one. He had a neck injury, no Meers Leonard. 943 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: But Bam is back. Bam is back twenty eight and eleven. 944 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 2: BAM's hitting jumpers now like little fadeaway jumpers. He's out 945 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: of that dragas is back to He scored twenty two 946 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: and I saw spools draft at the game. He said, 947 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 2: In some ways, it feels like this was two wins, 948 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: just because we are preserving through a lot of different 949 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: things without feeling sorry for ourselves or making excuses, persevering 950 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: excuse me as they can jam on my mind. There, 951 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 2: But I just keep thinking about this Heat team. We 952 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: barely talked about them. They're a weird team. I mean, 953 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: they went to the finals last year, but they've been 954 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 2: tough to talk about because they haven't had their team 955 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 2: at all. It feels like all season long with guys 956 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: in and out, COVID protocols and injuries and stuff like that, 957 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 2: and it's like, I just don't know what to think 958 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: of the Miami Heat at all, Like they don't really 959 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 2: get included. It feels like still in a lot of 960 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: the conversation about who's going to be the best team 961 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: in the East, but then no one's like, well, they're done, 962 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: Like everybody knows they're still a good team. I don't 963 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: know what you got. If you do you have an 964 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 2: opinion even on the Miami Heat of this season, trade 965 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: or am I sort of on the right page here? 966 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 3: It's tough to have an opinion on them this season 967 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: because some of the biggest highlights I've seen have been 968 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 3: from a guy like Gabe Vincent, Like you're saying, they've 969 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 3: been playing shorthanded for the majority of the season. Even 970 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 3: last year during the season before everything was stopped for 971 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: the pandemic, the Heat were very up and down. Remember, 972 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 3: they were getting a bunch of wins at home, they 973 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 3: were struggling on the road. They were a team that 974 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 3: was in the middle of the pack in the Eastern Conference. 975 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 3: Everybody gelled in the bubble, and they took it to 976 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 3: another level. I think that it's hard to have an 977 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: opinion on the Heat right now because we're not seeing 978 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 3: them full strength, and we're also kind of assuming once 979 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 3: it comes down to the pressure cooker of the playoffs, Jimmy, 980 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 3: I'll be back and the team will kind of, you know, 981 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 3: be focused on the same path together, and they'll be 982 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: able to out culture some teams when it comes down 983 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: to it. They just haven't looked like themselves right now 984 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 3: because they've been having to shuffle people in and out. 985 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's a very very odd season for 986 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: the Heat right now. But from this game final takeaway, 987 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 2: we got Weggie number ten though though though though Heat 988 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: broadcaster Eric Reid on the call really drop the ball 989 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: on this one in my opinion, Let's play the clip 990 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 2: dragage turns the corners. 991 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: Jump on with two of eight left, you're in the third. 992 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: Quarterdink from Eric Reed. Yeah, now, and everything about this 993 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 2: wedgie was beautiful. I love a little layup soft weggie 994 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: that sticks like that. Dragic well done. I loved Kelly 995 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: olenok letting it breathe. Did you see that he was 996 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: having a good old like let's leave it. I think 997 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: he was joking with Dragis for a second of like hey, 998 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: do you want to jump up and get it? Or 999 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: do you want me to get it? But he let 1000 00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: it breathe? But doink? Come on, Eric Reid, I can't 1001 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: believe Eric, he didn't drop. Well that's the twenty second 1002 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 2: Legends third year doink. I mean, I'm actually I'm okay 1003 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: with the doink call. But then you come on, say 1004 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: it's a leggie like. 1005 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 3: The To me, a doink involves something bouncing off course, 1006 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: like you know, for us when it was when we 1007 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 3: were back in the whoopsies days. A classic donker was 1008 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 3: a guy taking a ball off the face. I saw. 1009 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: Jamie Matram had a tweet earlier this week where he 1010 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 3: said doink is reserved for when a football hits the upright. 1011 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 3: The famous one is the Chicago Bears had the double 1012 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 3: doink two playoffs to go both sides. Like I'm saying, 1013 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: everything involved with the doink involves a bouncing of some sort. Yeah, 1014 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: there's got to be a bounce to have a doink. 1015 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 3: A wedgie, it's wedged in there. It's in the name, Eric. 1016 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: But like you're saying, skets, we got to hook him 1017 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: up with the stats because you know he will drop 1018 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 3: them next time they got a doink there. 1019 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah he will. 1020 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll give him like the pace we're on, the 1021 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 2: highest we've ever done. He loves a stout, Eric, right, 1022 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: He just I couldn't believe you dropped a doink. And again, 1023 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 2: not that he dropped a doink. Okay, sort of fun 1024 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 2: to say. I get it. I like saying it. Doink 1025 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 2: doink the clown one of my favorite wrestlers of all time, 1026 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: but dropped the wedgie after that and that matrum thing 1027 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: you reminded me Trey. I saw that tweet too. He said, 1028 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 2: doink in football, when you hit the uprights, one hundred 1029 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: percent agree. But he said in baseball, when you hit 1030 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 2: the uh like the foul pole down the line, that's 1031 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: not a doink, he said, that's a clang. I think 1032 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: he said interesting. 1033 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually do agree. Are foul poles made 1034 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 3: of metal? It seems like they are. And then when 1035 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: you have the hard baseball hit it, it's gonna make 1036 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 3: a clank sound. In football, you got the metal goal posts, 1037 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 3: but they have an inflated ball just like in basketball. 1038 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: That's a doink. It's kind of smart. Okay, Yeah, what 1039 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: do you you you you wanna you're on board with that. 1040 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 2: Ley'll get that donks and doinks and clangs and stuff 1041 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 2: like that. 1042 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. We've had a good run though with the play 1043 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: by play commentator, so we're not gonna We're not gonna 1044 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: speak back a thousand with them. It's all right, we'll 1045 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: educate everyone. 1046 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: I think you don't think theron a WhatsApp group chat. Okay, 1047 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: all these guys calling these games and women they got 1048 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 2: to be and somebody let them know. Somebody's gotta let 1049 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: her know. 1050 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Eric, Eric, Yeah, he's been around forever too. 1051 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: He would have definitely seen, you know, the wedgies in 1052 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: the past. 1053 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, now I'm trying to remember has Eric Reid 1054 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: ever called it a weggie? 1055 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: I think so, I'm almost certain he has. 1056 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: Wow, So this is I tried effort not to give 1057 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: us a shout out, just kidding, just kidding. I can't 1058 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: wait for the next Weggie in Miami. Eric Creed will 1059 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 2: be all over it. I have faith. I have faith. Okay, 1060 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 2: so that's five games. One thing. Let's get to some 1061 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: news though. This first news item is crazy. Kevin Porter, 1062 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 2: junior guys appears to be on his way out of Cleveland. 1063 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 2: The Cavs are expected to trade or wave Porter following 1064 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 2: the twenty year old's recent locker room outburst. Now this 1065 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 2: is according to the Athletic and it's been confirmed by 1066 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: other other Porter reportedly began yelling and at one point 1067 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: through food after he entered the locker room on Friday, 1068 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 2: and he learned that the team had given his old 1069 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: locker to Torrian Prince, who was acquired by Cleveland as 1070 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: part of that blockbuster hard and trade. So it comes in. 1071 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 2: He sees that his locker Porter, by the way, hasn't 1072 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 2: played this season, and we'll get to that, but he 1073 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: sees that his locker has been given to Prince and 1074 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: he and he's sort of been moved over to like 1075 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: where the you know, the younger kids are on the 1076 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: team or whatever, another part of the locker room, and 1077 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 2: he just flips out. I guess I'm not sure we 1078 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: know what food item he's throwing. We can we have 1079 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 2: confirmed it's not tortilla soup like j R. Smith and Cleveland, 1080 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 2: but we don't know what exactly. And after the episode, 1081 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: Porter was told to clean out his locker and basically 1082 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: get out of here. You know, we got into, you know, 1083 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: a verbal altercation with Kobe Altman and maybe even Bickerstaff 1084 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: as well if I read that correctly. So, yeah, this 1085 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 2: is wild Ken Porter Junior is twenty years oldly and 1086 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: he's basically being told like, we're gonna trade you, We're 1087 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 2: just gonna straight up waveew. What do you think? 1088 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm mainly going on what we've read, 1089 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: and he obviously got you know, very opposite that. He 1090 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: was felt that he was maybe being disrespected and reacted 1091 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: like a twenty year old can react in that situation. 1092 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: I'll sort of give him that little pass there that 1093 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, when you're twenty years old and 1094 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: things haven't gone your way, Like he had some talent, 1095 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: He showed some talent last season. He hasn't been able 1096 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: to get on the court so far this season, so 1097 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,959 Speaker 1: he's probably frustrated, and then he feels that he's being 1098 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: marginalized maybe in the locker room and that's how he reacted. 1099 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. I mean, if they're prepared 1100 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: to just straight up wave him, then perhaps they don't 1101 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 1: feel that he's going to last in the NBA anyway, 1102 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, because if you're not going to get anything 1103 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: in return for a player who throws a tantrum, and 1104 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: then perhaps they just don't see he has a future here. 1105 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see how it plays out. But you know, 1106 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,959 Speaker 1: twenty year old kids sometimes do react in a bad way, 1107 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: and you can give them a little pass in that 1108 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: sense because I know as an eyes at twenty year old, 1109 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, you get yourself a little worked up over 1110 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: things that aren't that big, and you don't handle things 1111 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: as maturely as you probably do when you're a little 1112 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: bit older and you've been in the league a little 1113 00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 1: bit longer. 1114 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: So have you ever thrown any food at a you know, 1115 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 2: a trigger or big mad or all a toes, chucked 1116 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 2: any handbasing anybody. 1117 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have thrown any trigger maybe at eight Yeah, yeah, 1118 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm probably thrown a little something at eight toes, you know, 1119 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, when we were twenty, I mean 1120 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: when when atoes and I used to play NBA Live. 1121 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that that's that's really where you 1122 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: test your friendship. You know, Oh, it starts out as 1123 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,479 Speaker 1: fun and then you're just like, I want to beat 1124 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: this guy or kill him I don't care whichever one 1125 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: happens first. But you know, video games are bad like that. 1126 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: They really bring out the worst behavior in people. 1127 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 2: You probably threw a bag of Durnos or something. Okay, probably, yeah, okay, 1128 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 2: so you're you're saying, now here's the thing, Lee and Trey, 1129 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: maybe you're going to talk to us too. This is 1130 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 2: a twenty year old kid, You're right, maybe just overreacting 1131 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: because he's like, what's going on here? That was my 1132 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 2: locker all that. It's a bad luck regardless. But he 1133 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 2: does have a bit of history in terms of things 1134 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: both on the floor and off the floor when it 1135 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 2: comes in college and UH and in the NBA. I mean, 1136 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 2: just this past what was it November? I think it 1137 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 2: was last not I can't trying to keep you off. Yeah, 1138 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 2: last year he was Porter junior. He was arrested and 1139 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: charged with UH. It was sort of like a one 1140 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 2: car accident, but improper handling of a firearm in a 1141 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 2: motor vehicle and failure to control the vehicle and a 1142 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: misdemeanor possession of marijuana. Now I think all those charges 1143 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: were dismissed. But again, he hasn't played this year for 1144 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: the cas tray. They've said for personal reasons. I know 1145 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 2: he did have an incident back in usc too, So like, 1146 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 2: is this sort of just like hey man, sort of 1147 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 2: like you know, three strikes and you're you're out type 1148 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: of thing, or are the Calves overreacting themselves? 1149 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 3: Probably both, but I think it's understandable that they are. 1150 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 3: He was a guy that dropped to thirtieth in the 1151 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 3: draft because of these questions about off court conduct. As 1152 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 3: you can see in his rookie season, he's a pretty 1153 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: solid player. If you would have asked me who is 1154 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 3: the best of the Cleveland Cavaliers at the and the 1155 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 3: last season coming into this year, I would have had 1156 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 3: Porter ahead of both Sexton and Garland. So yeah, it'll 1157 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 3: be interesting to see what actually goes down here because 1158 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 3: I can definitely see a team taking a chance on 1159 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 3: Kevin Porter junior if he can get his off court 1160 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 3: issues handled, because obviously that's the big question. He's a 1161 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 3: quality young player. He can create off the dribble. This 1162 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 3: is things that basically every team is looking for. Teams 1163 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: like the Grizzlies, Pelicans, Nicks, Thunder, they'd got extra picks 1164 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 3: if they want to add a young guy. The Nuggets, 1165 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: the Celtics are contending teams that could maybe work something 1166 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 3: out to add Kevin Porter Junior. But I don't know, 1167 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 3: when you are on the fringes of the NBA and 1168 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 3: you have an outburst like this, it's understandable when a 1169 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 3: team decides that we're done with you. You know, things 1170 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 3: have been going pretty well for the Cleveland Cavaliers this year. 1171 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 3: They seem to be on the upswing, seem to be 1172 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: having a lot of optimism around him. Maybe they'll be 1173 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: abel to pull off a trade for Andre Drummond in 1174 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 3: the next couple of months. We shall see. But you know, 1175 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 3: you don't want this on your franchise. Basically when things 1176 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 3: are going well, so understandable that the Calves are making 1177 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 3: this decision. It's too bad for Porter. But like you're saying, 1178 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 3: skis we got to find out what this food is. 1179 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,959 Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if it's roast beef. 1180 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 2: Wow, Well, Drummonds had Drummonds had so much roast beef 1181 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: in the time over the last little while. Yeah, he's 1182 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: just flinging roast beef around. Oh wow, if it's a 1183 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: roast beef, it's makes this story even crazier. Yeah, I 1184 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 2: hear you, though. I think the calves are like, this 1185 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 2: isn't worth the distraction, man, or you're you're not worth 1186 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 2: the headache. So you know, now they're saying, either just 1187 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 2: stay away from the team and we'll try and trade you, 1188 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: or we'll just end up waving it, which just seems crazy. 1189 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like you could get even if 1190 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 2: it's a small asset back. Yeah, like you said, some 1191 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 2: team will maybe take a chance on him and think 1192 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 2: they can, you know, help him out in terms of 1193 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: maybe his personal troubles and stuff like that, or maybe not. 1194 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 2: Maybe this is Yeah, this is a professional basketball league. 1195 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: You got to be a professional, and a lot of 1196 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: these organizations don't have time for this nonsense. So crazy. 1197 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 2: Hopefully he's only twenty, I mean, it's not like his 1198 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 2: his his career is over, So hopefully he gets it 1199 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: together all right. Some other bad news here, According to 1200 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 2: The Blazer's Late Last Night guards CJ. McCollum will miss 1201 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: an extended period of time after suffering a small hairline 1202 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: fracture and a spring in his left foot. McCollum will 1203 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 2: wear a walking boot and will be reevaluated in four weeks. Lead. 1204 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 2: This stinks because that first Terry starts on the Blazers like, yeah, okay, 1205 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: you hurt himself, We'll reevaluate McCollum in a week. So 1206 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 2: much for that, you know, a da later, Charms is 1207 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 2: all over it, and now it sounds like he's going 1208 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: to be well. He's going to be able a month minimum. 1209 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,280 Speaker 1: They can't afford to lose him. He's having his best season, 1210 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 1: you know, talking about All Star potential. I know that 1211 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: the Blazers record isn't great and Lilard's sort of their 1212 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: default All Star, but I think McCollum was really forcing 1213 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: his way into that conversation and most improved for him. 1214 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the numbers that he's putting up 1215 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: this year. Twenty seven points a game, shooting forty seven 1216 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: percent from from the field, forty four eleven to three 1217 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: pointers a game, five assists and four rebounds a game, 1218 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: and a steal in a half a game. I mean, 1219 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: he was just playing incredible basketball. And now he's out 1220 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: for a month, and I just don't think the Blazers 1221 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: will be able to survive too much without him, because 1222 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: he really can go out there and carry the offensive 1223 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: load when they need him to. He's been incredible. He 1224 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: knows how to get to his spot and score, and 1225 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 1: you can just see the confidence in his game this season, 1226 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: where he's like, I can do anything I want. I 1227 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: can go out on the court and get a basket 1228 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 1: anytime I need to. And now I'm just not sure 1229 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: how they cover. And they've got some guys, you know. 1230 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: Of course, Gary Trent Junior is one of the ones 1231 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: who's probably going to get more shots now, but he 1232 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: can't create for himself in the same way that CJ can. 1233 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what the Blazers do. They're obviously 1234 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: hurting they've lost Nurkic as well. Do they make a trade, 1235 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Levine, maybe he goes to the Bulls. 1236 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't worked that one in the 1237 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: trade machine yet, but certainly they need someone who can 1238 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: sort of go out there and get their own basket. 1239 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: And it's going to be really tough to see how 1240 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: the Blazers can handle missing two of their starters for 1241 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 1: at least the next month here, and just a blow 1242 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: for CJ because he's been such a consistent player and 1243 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: again he really stepped his game up this season and 1244 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: took that next level. I'm not sure what level I'm 1245 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna put him in. 1246 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: Just a what I'm just gonna ask you that, Yeah, 1247 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 2: falls one be. 1248 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: He's a one bee, He's a one be, he's a 1249 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: one B. Yeah, But you know, like that, that backcourt 1250 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,479 Speaker 1: has been together for so long, and I've talked about 1251 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: it that I wonder how much longer they go with 1252 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: it because their ceiling I don't think was sort of 1253 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: much more than a wrap about the second round in 1254 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: the Western Conference anyway. But now I think they'll just 1255 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: be in a struggle just to sort of keep their 1256 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: heads above water for this for this next month, because 1257 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: I just don't think they've got the depth that other 1258 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: teams have, especially in the Western Conference. 1259 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 2: This maybe bodes well for my Lillard MVP pick. That's 1260 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 2: the only good news to come out of this. Maybe 1261 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 2: Lillard just goes bonkers here for three or four weeks 1262 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: without two of the stars. No, I'm kidding, but CJ 1263 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 2: has broken his foot I think twice now this foot 1264 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 2: in his career, so that I mean, you're gonna be 1265 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 2: cautious with it. That just sucks. What do you think, Trey? 1266 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 2: I mean, a Blazer's in deep, deep trouble here with 1267 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 2: no CJ because he's been They're gonna gotta take out 1268 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 2: twenty five twenty six points a game out of your lineup. 1269 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're in big trouble, no siege and likely 1270 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 3: saying no nurk You know Nurkic. You don't think of 1271 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 3: him as a big loss on the offensive end, but 1272 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 3: he's a guy who can make plays in a pinch 1273 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 3: as well. So now there's so much pressure on Damian 1274 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 3: Lillard to basically do everything. The good thing for the Blazers, 1275 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 3: they're scheduled the next ten days isn't too bad. Grizzlies 1276 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 3: back to back, Knicks, Thunder Rockets Bowls. There's only one 1277 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 3: Lossumpcy in there, that's against the Balls. You know, after that, 1278 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 3: it does get a bit tougher. They got the Bucks, 1279 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 3: the Sixers, but they don't have the toughest schedule they 1280 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 3: could possibly have right now. It's not like they're running 1281 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 3: the Lakers, than the Clippers, than the Nuggets. All back 1282 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 3: to back to back to back to back to back back. 1283 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 3: So if Damian Lillard's able to really catch fire here, 1284 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: if he's able to keep putting the team on his back, 1285 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna get some Players of the Week here, and 1286 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 3: not too long, the guy can ball out. We've seen 1287 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 3: that so many times. That's why I'm willing to say 1288 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 3: that CJ McCollum is actually a two here because Damian 1289 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 3: Lillard is established as a one if you ask me, 1290 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 3: but he's gonna have to be a zero point five. 1291 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 3: He's gonna have to be even more extreme than he 1292 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,520 Speaker 3: has been to start this season because CJ has been 1293 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 3: a huge help to Damian Lillard throughout the season. I'm 1294 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 3: in the midst of cutting these seven days for the NBA, 1295 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 3: and there is every game it feels like Damian Lillard 1296 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 3: has a huge game, He'll have forty and fifteen, but 1297 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 3: then CJ mccollins right there with thirty and ten as well. 1298 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 3: So he's been making plays. He's stepped up his three 1299 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 3: point shooting, he stepped up his playmaking. And now losing 1300 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 3: CJ and Nurk with a team that has already brought 1301 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 3: into starters, now you're bringing in two backup guys. There's 1302 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 3: a lot to figure out for the Blazers, and it 1303 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 3: just kind of feels like every single year is like this. 1304 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 3: Damian Lillard seems to stay healthy for the entirety of 1305 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 3: the season, and they're just shuffling players in and out 1306 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 3: of the lineup, trying to get their best team on 1307 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 3: the court when they can. I guess the silver lining 1308 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 3: of this is that it's still only January. You know. 1309 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 3: If the Blazers are able to kind of keep their 1310 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 3: head above water here for the next month while CJ 1311 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 3: is out, if they're able to figure out something with 1312 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 3: the center spot with a use of Nurkic going down, 1313 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 3: if they're able to just stay in the mix once 1314 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 3: everybody's back, maybe then they're able to go on a streak. 1315 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 2: Didn't start well on Monday, I suffered a one point 1316 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: lost to the Spurs with that MC call him there 1317 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 2: of course and nurk so rough start. But I hear you, 1318 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 2: Lillard's gonna have to put up some insane, insane numbers 1319 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 2: which he can, which he can, and he did this 1320 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: last week. Our final piece of news here you said it, 1321 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard and Kevin Durant named NBA Players of the 1322 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: Week for Week four. If you're keeping track of the 1323 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 2: NBA season, yeah, we're basically a month in here, guys. 1324 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 2: Lillard averaged thirty point three points per game, seven point 1325 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 2: three assists, and five point three boards as the Blazers 1326 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 2: went three and one. Katie averaged thirty four and eight 1327 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 2: on incredible shooting percentages as the Nets went three and 1328 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 2: oh over that week. A little trivia, I like to 1329 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 2: do this with you, Lee, So Katie winning an Eastern 1330 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 2: Conference Player of the week first one, how many times 1331 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 2: did he win the Western Conference Player of the. 1332 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: Week twenty five? 1333 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh, you almost did it again, twenty six, twenty six, 1334 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:58,439 Speaker 2: very close. I think I think he ranks third all time. 1335 00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: I think Kevin Durant does. 1336 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 1: Lebron would have to be number one. 1337 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: Le Bron is like a miles ahead of whoever is 1338 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 2: in second. I can't think of second right now. So 1339 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: if you got Pops into your mind, let. 1340 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: Me maybe James Hotton could be. 1341 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 2: It could be. But there's a weird thing with this too, 1342 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: because not until like two thousand, two thousand and one 1343 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 2: season did they start giving it to both conferences. Like Jordan. 1344 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 2: Jordan I think is fourth all time like he's behind 1345 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. But it's like they only gave it to 1346 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 2: one player for the entire for the entire league, right, 1347 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 2: why why are you laughing? 1348 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: Well, of all the accolades, you know, the the week. 1349 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 2: That's so well. I think that's gonna ultimately when it 1350 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: comes down to goat talk at the end of it all. 1351 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: How many did Jordan? How many did Lebron? No? So yeah, 1352 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 2: mj was at a disadvantage there, even though we got 1353 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 2: a ton of them still, but they were only giving 1354 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,959 Speaker 2: one out. And I think this thing only came around 1355 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 2: in the eighties too, So how many would will to that? 1356 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows? Like one of my biggest what ifs? 1357 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 3: How many players of the week would will chap number two? 1358 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 3: Though on your list, skates, you would have guessed that 1359 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 3: if you got around to it. 1360 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 2: Oh, Coby, thank you, thank you. I know Mellow's got 1361 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 2: a lot too. 1362 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's up there. 1363 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 2: He's got probably close to twenty. Anyway, fun little trivia 1364 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 2: with players of the week. Congrats to Katie and Lillard. 1365 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: See Lillard especially can do it in back to back weeks. Okay, 1366 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 2: let's get to tweet of the night. Tweet of the night. Wow, 1367 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 2: loved this tweet of the night because if you were 1368 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 2: on NBA Twitter last night during the Nets Bucks game, 1369 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 2: you saw a lot of people tweeting about the look 1370 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: of the court and the look of the teams on 1371 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: that Nets court and at Jessica Smet Nana. Excuse me 1372 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 2: if I'm saying that wrong, Smet Donna, Jessica, Let'll just 1373 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 2: call her Jessica. She tweeted, the best part about watching 1374 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 2: the Nets home games is knowing that me and my 1375 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 2: dog see the exact same thing. Now, this I thought 1376 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: was the best tweet about this because here's a look 1377 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 2: at I just took a quick screen grab. JD posted 1378 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 2: it for everybody joining us on YouTube right now. Yeah, 1379 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: you know it's it's very black and whitish, very very 1380 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 2: dog like. That's what they are seeing when they're watching 1381 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,439 Speaker 2: this game, and so were we because you just saw 1382 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 2: so many people, myself included. By the way, I made 1383 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 2: a WandaVision joke. I don't know if you guys have 1384 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 2: started WandaVision, JD, have you dipped into those first two episodes. 1385 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 2: I've seen the first episode. Yeah, okay, well yeah, anyway, Yeah, 1386 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 2: Rachel sat there and complained the entire time, like about 1387 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 2: it going to be the whole thing, The whole thing's 1388 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 2: gonna be like this, okay. 1389 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 3: And I was just yeah, exactly, that was my reaction, 1390 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 3: ex actly, just we'll let. 1391 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: People catch up on one division and we'll eventually do 1392 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 2: a deep time. But yeah, a lot of people making 1393 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 2: the Pleasantville jokes and just like the straight up black 1394 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 2: and white jokes. But I like that one from Jessica there, 1395 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 2: that tweet about, uh, that's what lunas seeing when she's 1396 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 2: watching the. 1397 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 3: Game with somebody as a dog. 1398 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Now that's right, that's right, now, I understand dogs. I 1399 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: really did. All right. 1400 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 3: That was great though, because because of the uniforms that 1401 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 3: they were wearing, and for some reason, it felt like 1402 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 3: the players were wearing the drabest shoes they could, Like 1403 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 3: everybody was wearing a white and black shoe except for 1404 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 3: basically Kevin Durant. He had on He's not in this picture, 1405 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 3: but he had on like a Texas Longhorns orange shoes. 1406 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So it really felt like the Pleasantville the 1407 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 3: color is returning scene right like it just started with 1408 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 3: Kevin Durant's feet still an unusual look. Like I said earlier, 1409 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 3: I had this on the big screen. I had the 1410 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,440 Speaker 3: balls going on a small screen. At halftime, I switched 1411 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 3: to the balls on the big screen. Boup going back 1412 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 3: and forth. So when you go from a very colorful 1413 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 3: game like like the Bulls versus the Rockets, you know 1414 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 3: a lot of red happening there, and then you go 1415 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,959 Speaker 3: to a game where it's all in black and white, 1416 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 3: it's throwing you for your loopy. 1417 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh, especially when you go from yeah on TNT. If 1418 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 2: you just go from Nets Bucks to then Warriors Lakers, 1419 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 2: which is like diplosion of color, like colors. Yeah, you 1420 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 2: feel drunk on color when you go from that one 1421 01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 2: to that one. 1422 01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 1423 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, great, sweet Jessica, I wish I knew how to 1424 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 2: pronounce your last name. I'll figure it out. Pick them 1425 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 2: results Bucks Nets. It was the game we were betting 1426 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 2: on there last night, and Lelely I went with you. 1427 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 2: We took the nets. You talked to me and you 1428 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 2: just said, they got Kevin Durant, Man, they got Kevin Durant. 1429 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 2: You ended up being right simple as that. Sometimes because 1430 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 2: the nets covered, they got to win. So that's a 1431 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 2: win for me and you, a loss for Task and Trey, 1432 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: who had Milwaukee to win by three or more. Tass 1433 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 2: and Trey are eight to nine. Lee, you're in last still, 1434 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 2: but you're seven and ten. You really needed that victory. 1435 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: And I'm nine and eight the only guy over five 1436 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 2: hundred here tonight's game. Incredibly, there's only two games on tonight. 1437 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 2: What very weird. Ok see Denver and New Orleans Utah 1438 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 2: even weirder. They both start at nine o'clock. Just really 1439 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 2: strange schedule here on a Tuesday night. But we're gonna 1440 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 2: go with that Pelicans Jazz game Utah favored by six 1441 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 2: and a half. Lee, we'll go to you first. Yes, 1442 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 2: do you like the Jazz to win by seven or 1443 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 2: more or Repelicans? Keep it close? This is the second winder? 1444 01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Is it in Utah? 1445 01:02:59,560 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 2: Is it? 1446 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes any difference, he tays, 1447 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: or not. I know the Pelicans just had a very 1448 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: nice we and over the Kings, but it was the Kings. Yes, 1449 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: the Jazz have been playing better. Seven points. I af 1450 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: to win by I'll take the Jazz. 1451 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Trey, what do you think this is tough? 1452 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Ala, the Jazz have been balling, but 1453 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 3: that seems like a big chunk of cheese right there. 1454 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 3: Give me the Pelicans to keep it close. 1455 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1456 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 3: Perhaps the Jazz pull it off, but I don't know. 1457 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 3: I just keep thinking back to Zion in the preseason 1458 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 3: when he was a rookie, going up against Rudy Gobert, 1459 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 3: knocking him back, putting him in the basket, finishing at 1460 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,439 Speaker 3: the rim. Zion was awesome against the Kings. It felt 1461 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 3: like he wasn't gonna miss a shot. He ended up 1462 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 3: thirteen for fifteen. He's been balling right now. It seemed 1463 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 3: like his coming out party. Jay Skeetz was loving the highlights. 1464 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 3: So I'm encouraged by what I've seen from the Pelicans. 1465 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 3: I think they'll keep it close. Give me New Orleans. 1466 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 2: We'll hope. Man. Let's hope Zion dunks on Rudy Gobert tonight. 1467 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 2: Then we're talking. I actually like the Jazz to win 1468 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 2: this one, you know. I think again, they're one of 1469 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 2: these teams that's going a little bit under the radar 1470 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 2: right now. They always do, so it's no surprise. But 1471 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 2: give me the Jazz to win by seven or more. 1472 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 2: Let's hear from task. 1473 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 3: I'll take the Pelicans plus six and a half and 1474 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 3: I'll take six and a half plus collisions between Zion 1475 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 3: Williamson and Rudy Gobert at the rim. 1476 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there you go, there you go, there you go. Wow, 1477 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 2: we are split again the same way. It's me and 1478 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 2: Lee taking Utah to win by seven or more, and 1479 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 2: it's Task and Tray taking the Pelicans to cover the spread. There. 1480 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 2: Good luck to everybody, but especially to Lee. Just a 1481 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 2: little bit more luck to Lee and then me. Okay, guys, 1482 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 2: that's it for today's show. Only two games on tonight. 1483 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 2: Will be back tomorrow to maybe talk about them. We 1484 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 2: might do something else. I did say we are a 1485 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 2: month into the season here, we could start looking at 1486 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 2: some awards, early awards. If we want to do it. 1487 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 2: We gotta do that at some point this week for sure, 1488 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 2: So maybe we'll start diving into that. Coming up later today, 1489 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 2: it's Tuesday, TK, You're gonna have your seven Days in 1490 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 2: the NBA Fun video series you and ged are working on, 1491 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 2: So keep your eyes on our YouTube feed for that. 1492 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Just make sure you also also well, I've got a 1493 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: little a little treat for for mainly our Australian audience 1494 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: out there. I'm going to be having a little podcast 1495 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: with a former Australian NBA coming up in the next 1496 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: few days. Sometimes I look out for that one. 1497 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, I hope your WiFi is working well. 1498 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: Am I lagging a little bit? 1499 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 2: Lag for me? Every day? Am I alone? He likes, 1500 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,919 Speaker 2: we'read of got around the twenty twenty five minute mark, 1501 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 2: you start lagging for me. But I mean you're powering through. 1502 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 2: I can understand everything you're saying. So yeah, just one okay, 1503 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 2: if you looked into your Wi Fi? I mean, what 1504 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 2: are you working with? 1505 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: My WiFi seems fine these days, so I don't know what. 1506 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm not sure it does. 1507 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, maybe it's just my week. You know, 1508 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: I've had the leaf blowers out here this morning, I've 1509 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: got the Wi Fi lagging. You know, we sort of 1510 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: just seem to pass it around. So maybe it's just 1511 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 1: my time for it. 1512 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it is all right. 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