1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back inside the UC Hell Training Center 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: for another episode of Broncos Now. Team reporter and host 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones here and coming up on today's episode, we'll 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: hear from Broncos owner in CEO Greg Penner and general 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: manager George Payton as they met with the media today 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: to discuss the decision to part ways with head coach 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, discuss what they're looking for in a new 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: head coach, and more all that coming up. A lot 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: has happened here at the Broncos headquarters since Sunday's game, 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: in which the team fell fifty one to fourteen to 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: the Rams in Los Angeles. On Monday, Broncos owner and 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: CEO Greg Penner announced that the Broncos were parting ways 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: with head coach Nathaniel Hackett and consequently named a senior assistant, 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Jerry Rossberg, to be the interim head coach for the 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: remainder of the season. And on Tuesday, the Broncos held 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: a press conference in which both Greg Penner and general 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: manager George Payton thanked Nathaniel Hackett for his efforts, discuss 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: what they're looking for in a new head coach, and more. 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Broncos owner in a CEO Greg 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Penner's opening statement on behalf of rob carry in the 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: ownership group. I want to thank Nathaniel Hackett for his 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: contributions to the Denver Broncos. These decisions are hard. We've 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: all enjoyed the relationship that we've developed with Nathaniel, the 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: time that we've spent together and getting to know him 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: better as a coach and a person. The competitiveness our 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: team is shown this year, despite the injuries and adversity, 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: is a testament to Nathaniel and his leadership. I believe 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: he will be a successful coach in the future and 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: we wish him the best. When we purchased this great 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: franchise in August, this was not the season we were expecting, 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: and it has been a season that's disappointing for our 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: fans and what they deserve. Their loyalty and support through 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: these difficult seasons has been incredible. I want to personally 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: apologize to our fans in all of Broncos country. We 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: know that we need to be better and we will. 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos are a proud franchise with a rich 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: history and a winning tradition. As owners. It's incumbent on 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: us to have high expectations, set a high standard, and 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: ensure there is accountability. We talked about that at the 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. It was true then and it's 41 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: true now. It's also important for us to be a 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: realistic about where we are and the work that needs 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: to be done, and that starts today with our head 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: coaching search. I will lead a thorough process with input 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: from our other owners and from George, who I have 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: confidence in as our general manager. This will be a 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: crucial offseason for us across our football operations, that's coaching, 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: personnel and support staff. We've got to get this right. 49 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: I'd like to close by saying that even though the 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: year is not gone as we had hoped, there are 51 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: a number of bright spots. Our defense is among the 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: best in the NFL. We have some emerging stars and 53 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: proven veterans on both sides of the ball, and we're 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: building a competitive foundation for the future. The new head 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: coach we hire will have every resource available to them 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: and the full support of our ownership group to build 57 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: on our winning and championship tradition. Here and general manager 58 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: George Paton went on to take responsibility for the results 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: of this season. Nathaniel is a very good football coach 60 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: and uh, he's even a better person. And it just 61 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: didn't work out here, and uh, and that's on me. 62 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: And as I told the players yesterday, I take full 63 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: responsibility for where we are as a football team. I 64 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: brought in the head coach, I brought in most of 65 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the players. Those are my decisions, and there's no one 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: to blame but me, And I just want to be clear, 67 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: this isn't just about the coaching. This isn't just about Nathaniel. 68 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: This isn't about the entire football operation. This is about 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: the personnel, the players, the staff, everyone involved with our 70 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: football team. It has to be better across the board. 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: I have to be better. We have a lot of 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: work to do, and as I told the players and 73 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: our staff yesterday, we're all being evaluated. Our record this year, 74 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: and especially our performance on Sunday, is not what we're about. 75 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Sunday's game was unacceptable. It was embarrassing for everyone associated 76 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: with this team. We have a lot of it's nowhere 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: close to our standard. And while we've played a number 78 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: of close games and we've had our share of adversity 79 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: and injuries, all that matters is winning. No one cares 80 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: about the excuses, and we're not going to make them. 81 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: We selected Jerry Rossberg as our interim head coach for 82 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: the main remaining two games, and and Jerry, we're fortunate 83 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: Jerry was available week three when we brought him along 84 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 1: to help us with some game management, and Jerry quickly 85 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: made his mark with the organization, his leadership, his attention 86 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: to detail. He has a great pulse of the team. Uh, 87 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: he's quickly grabbed the bull by the horns yesterday when 88 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: I spoke with Jerry, and he's gonna lead us the 89 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: next two games. And I feel really good about Jerry. 90 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: In closing, you know, I challenged our team to finish 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: the year on a winning note, to build for two 92 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: thousand twenty three, and we're gonna embrace that challenge in 93 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: front of us. I look forward to finishing this year 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: strong and doing everything possible for us to find that 95 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: next grade head coach of the Denver Broncos. Now joining 96 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: me here inside the Broncos podcast studio to dive a 97 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: little bit deeper into today's press conference is Bronco's lead 98 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: writer Eric de Lala. Eric, appreciate you joining me on 99 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: the podcast again today. Busy couple of days here at 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: the team headquarters. It really has been sent the a 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of a whirlwind here over the last ye but 102 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: has We'll get right too, because I know there's a 103 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: ton to talk about today, you know, Eric, we heard 104 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: from both Greg Penner and George Peyton to open the 105 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: show today, Eric, just to kind of start off, why 106 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: do you think maybe now was the right time for 107 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: them to kind of move on from Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah, 108 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, first of all, it's it's worth 109 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: noting that both of those guys, as we heard said, 110 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: they have respect for Nathaniel Hackett, a good coach. They 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: think he'll be successful in the future. It just was 112 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: not the right fit here. And I think that, um, 113 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: whether it was yesterday or you know, a couple of 114 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: weeks down the road, based on the way things have 115 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: gone here, it's likely they would have arrived at the 116 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: same decision. In terms of why now. I think you 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: look at some of the things that happened. One, on 118 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: the field, you have a thirty seven point loss, which 119 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: is the largest by this organization since two thousand and ten, 120 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: so we're talking about twelve years there and there was 121 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of off the field you know, I guess 122 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: I would call it nonsense. You know, Dalton Reiser getting 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: in a skirmish with Prett Rippon. You've got Randy Gregor 124 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: who gets suspended for a game. We're throwing a punch 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: after the game, and that's an addition to throwing his 126 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: helmet getting a roughing the passer penalty. So I think 127 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: when you look at those off the field issues as well, 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: that's what stood out to Greg Penner in terms of 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: why now is the right time to make a move. 130 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: And he said, you know, he didn't go into this 131 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: weekend thinking that this was going to happen. But once 132 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: this weekend played out the way it did and he 133 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: arrived at that decision, it makes no sense to wait 134 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: two more weeks once you once you decide what you're 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: going to do. So, um, there's a standard here. And 136 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: we heard, you know, Nathaniel Hackett said it before he 137 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: was fired, and we heard George and Greg say it 138 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: again today. It was unacceptable, it was embarrassing. It was 139 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: time to make a move. Yeah. Well, you know, as 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: their search for a new head coach starts, now, what 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: do you think maybe this process will look like I 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: know we went through one last year with Nathaniel Hackett, 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: but I know Greg Penner mentioned today that you know, him, 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: along with Rob and Carrie and a lot of the 145 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: ownership group is going to be involved. He mentioned specifically 146 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: Conde Leza Rice. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I think 147 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: you want to get smart people in the room, and 148 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: you want as many of them in a many different 149 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: opinions as possible. Um. Kind of Leasa of course has 150 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: served on college football playoff committee before, so she's got 151 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: experience kind of in this realm Um. And then you 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: look at you know, George Peyton, He's going to be 153 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: very involved as well. He's going to be a key 154 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: piece of this search, even though he's not leading it 155 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: this time around. We heard George Peyton talk about last 156 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: year and say, well, we probably could have cast a 157 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: wider net, but they did catch cast up pretty wide 158 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: net to begin with, with ten candidates. They went all 159 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: over the country, Um, to interview these these candidates. I 160 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: think where you talk about a wider net is maybe 161 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: the second interview where the Broncos they only interviewed Nathaniel 162 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Hackett twice. They did not go back and do a 163 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: second interview with anybody else. So maybe a more thorough process, 164 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: UM with multiple candidates. I'm assuming that you know they've 165 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: already done that. They're already starting to do their research 166 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: on potential candidates, UM, and we'll have a good idea 167 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: of what to action they want to head in but 168 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: um in terms of our process, but again expected to 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: be thorough and I do think it's a good thing 170 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: that there's ownership involvement. I mean, this is a big decision. Certainly, 171 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: the Bronchis have not had success finding coaches recently. This 172 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: will be the fifth head coach in eight seasons, three 173 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: back to back to back first time head coaches that 174 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: have not worked out. So you know, if there was 175 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: any question whether the Walton Penner family ownership group was 176 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: going to be invested in this team and involved on 177 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: a day to day basis, well here's your answer. Greg 178 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: Penner clearly wants to get this right and is going 179 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: to be very involved in this search process. Eric, you mentioned, 180 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, three first year head coaches back to back 181 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: to back. I know George Peyton said today during the 182 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: press conference that they're going to keep an open mind, 183 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, in the search throughout the process. Whether that's 184 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, a more experienced guy or another first year 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: head coach like you just mentioned. I know they're they're 186 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: hoping to interview defensive coordinatory Jeremy Vero. But you know, 187 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: given that Broncos just head coaching history, do you think 188 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of the direction they go again or yeah, 189 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: I mean I think what you tend to see with 190 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: these hires is that teams do the opposite of whatever 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: they did last time. So you had Vic Fangio who 192 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: was kind of this old school, UM, he had a 193 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: gruff demeanor, you know, very serious, UM, hard training camp practices. 194 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: They go in the opposite direction, and Nathaniel Hackett players 195 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: coach energetic, Um, Bubbly has kind of all these new 196 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: school ideas. UM. Very different from Fanjia, very different. I 197 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: think you might see the Broncos kind of do a 198 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: similar swing here where and instead of first time, maybe 199 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: it's more experienced, Maybe somebod who's been in this role before, UM, 200 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, has maybe an ability to to install instill 201 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: a culture of accountability and discipline UM that maybe was 202 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: lacking a little bit. UM. But of course you need 203 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: to need to consider these first time head coaches as well. 204 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: Because you could find you know, the next coach is 205 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna be here for fifteen twenty years. I mean, everybody's 206 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: got to get their starts somewhere. There's not necessarily statistics 207 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: that show, you know, uh, previous Slee fired or previously 208 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: uh someone who coached somewhere else is going to do 209 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: a better job than a first time head coach. There's 210 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: not that data that suggests that. But I do think 211 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: just where this Broncos team is a veteran quarterback, a 212 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: lot of young players. Um, they want to kind of 213 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: get things back on the right track. Um, it would 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: probably make sense in my opinion, to go with someone 215 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: who has experience, and but you kind of need Sindy, 216 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is like a John Fox type guy 217 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: who he comes in after Josh McDaniels is here and 218 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: he kind of resets things, bring some order, bring some accountability, 219 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: and you you build something. And I think the Broncos 220 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: should be looking for something similar. Well, Eric, I know 221 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: you were able to ask Greg Penner during the press 222 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: conference kind of the qualities that they're looking for. So 223 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: what specifically did he say that he's going to be 224 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: on the lookout for throughout this search? Process. Yeah. I mean, 225 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting last year when we talked 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: about this with George Payton, it was, hey, we need 227 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: someone who's an offensive innovator, someone who's gonna get this 228 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: offense right, and and Gregg Penner certainly said, hey, you know, 229 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: an offensive identity is important, but he talked more about 230 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: CEO type qualities in terms of, you know, a leader, 231 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: somebody that can inspire, someone that's gonna bring discipline and 232 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: culture and accountability in an identity and all these you know, 233 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: they sound like buzzwords, but they matter for a football team. 234 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: And I think you see throughout the league the teams 235 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: that have a coach that instills those qualities and those 236 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: are the successful ones, and the teams that do not 237 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: have that tend to struggle and and listen, in an 238 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: NFL season, you're either going to have a lot of success, 239 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: in which case you've got to find a way to 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: manage that success and not be so weak to week, 241 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: or you're gonna struggle and you're gonna lose a couple 242 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: of games, and how do you make sure that that 243 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: doesn't become four games in a row, five games in 244 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: a row where it recks your season. I think when 245 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: you have that CEO type guy, the leader of men um, 246 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, someone who instills discipline and accountability. I mean, 247 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: I look at you know, Mike Tomlin comes to mind 248 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: as a guy who he's that that perfect example of 249 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what's going on on the field, 250 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: they're always gonna be you know, eight and eight or 251 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: better when there was a sixteen game schedule, and even 252 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: this year it's been a rough year for them, they're 253 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: still it's still possible. They have a winning record, and 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: that's that's culture, that's a standard, and I think the 255 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: Broncos are looking for somebody that can bring that to Denver. Definitely. 256 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: Another topic that was discussed was, you know, just Russell 257 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Willsince played this season. You know, he would be the 258 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: first to say that he hasn't played up to his 259 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: standard or you know, this organization standards. So as we know, 260 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: a head coach and a quarterback have to have you know, 261 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: they need to be on the same page. They need 262 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: to have a really great relationship. So how important do 263 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: you think that will be in this search process? Yeah, 264 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: I think very important, And I do think it is 265 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: important to note that George Paton said that this decision. 266 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: This decision was not made because of Russell Wilson, and 267 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: the new coach is not solely going to be hired 268 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: with Russell Russell Wilson in mind. They need better offensive 269 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,479 Speaker 1: play all around the board. You need better defensive play 270 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: or to at least maintain this level of defensive play. 271 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: You need better special teams. So this this decision is 272 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: going to be made with the whole team in mind. 273 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: But obviously it's critical that whoever they select has a 274 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: good relationship with Russell Wilson. His success, his ability to 275 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: take a step forward is in a lot of ways 276 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: going to determine can the Broncos be successful. Um, George 277 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Payton made it very clear that he thinks Russell Wilson 278 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: is still capable of playing at that level. Greg Penner 279 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: said the same thing. They've just got to find a 280 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: way to get him there, and um, you know, I 281 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: think it'll be a big part of this process finding 282 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: someone who can help us. But it's also when you 283 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: look at the other side, it's gonna have to be 284 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: a coach that wants to come in here and work 285 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: with Russ and get him back to that level. So 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: it kind of goes two ways. Um, the Broncos, you know, 287 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: I think are in a better position than some teams 288 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: because they have a guy that you know, he can 289 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: play like a franchise quarterback. Now you've got to get 290 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: him back there. But if you do that, you don't 291 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: have to worry about searching for a guy. You've got 292 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: one right here who's proven he can be a big 293 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: time players. Gotta find it. Just gotta find a way 294 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: to get him back to that level. Yeah, the last 295 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: one for you here, Eric, you know, Greg Penner said 296 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: they're going to evaluate everything at one you know, moving forward. 297 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: The team already announced that they relieved special teams coordinator 298 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Dwayne Stokes an offensive line coach Butch Barry, you know, 299 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: from their duties. So they're wasting no time turning things around. 300 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: They want to turn things around now. Yeah, absolutely, And 301 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: I think that Greg Penner said that, you know, he 302 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: wanted to wait till the end of the season and 303 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: make a decision, but and be impatient and wants to 304 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: start fixing things, um right away. Uh. You know, one 305 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: of the things that really stood out to me and 306 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: I think may have resonated with fans on Twitter, was that, 307 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, they've reached out to Dr Alan Sills, the 308 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: NFL's chief medical officer, to just say, hey, how does 309 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: our program here, our wellness program, which includes the training staff, 310 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, the strength and conditioning staff, diettitions, everything, how 311 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: does that compare to the rest of the league. Because, 312 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: as George Peyton said, there's been injury problems in Denver 313 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: for years now, where they're among the more injured teams 314 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: in the league. How do you get that right? What 315 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: tweaks can you make to improve that? So that to 316 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: me really stands out as an example that they're leaving 317 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: no stone unturned. They're gonna evaluate every you know, aspect 318 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: of coaching, personnel, support staff to make sure that the 319 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: best possible resources are here for this team. And that's 320 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: a big deal. I think that they're willing to go 321 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: to that level um of detail of commitment and and 322 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: listen to Greg Penner, he realizes that this is not 323 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: good enough, this is not the standard UM. He apologized 324 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: directly to the fans. He knows that Broncos Country expects 325 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: more UM. And you never really know when a when 326 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: a new ownership group takes over, what is their approach 327 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: going to be. Are they gonna kind of just let 328 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: things be. Are they worried about the bottom line? What 329 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: is going to happen here? It's very clear, and I 330 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: know I said this earlier, but Greg Penner and the 331 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: Walton Penner family ownership group, they want to get a 332 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: winning football team on the field, and they're willing to 333 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to make that happen. Yep, and 334 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: do it as soon as they possibly can. Two weeks 335 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: left in this season. A lot of things are changing already. 336 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: But Eric, appreciate your time and you're insight today. Yeah, 337 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: of course, Well that I'll do it for today's episode 338 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: of Broncos Now Broncos Country. Thanks so much for tuning in. 339 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: I hope you'll meet me right back. We're on Broncos 340 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Podcast networking in YouTube for another episode tomorrow. I will 341 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: see you all then. H m hm