1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welc up to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about high 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: range drops. We have a busy show to night, so 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: let's bring in. This is a funny thing. These two 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: are friends in real life. They are a good time. 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say. I feel very blessed to 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: call them my friend. And I also feel very blessed 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: that I get to like hang out with them, because 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: you have not experienced a fun time if you haven't 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: a experienced it with Dustin Ross and d D Claudia Jordan, 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: who is my friend, my baby doll. I everyone knows 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm in love with Claudia Jordan. 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: I really am. I think she's super underrated. 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: I have said that for years and I will keep 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: saying again until my girl gets a star on the 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame. I love this woman. I think 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: she's so smart, she's super gorgeous. She has a potty 23 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: mouth like no other. But she's very sensitive too. Miss 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: Aries like dust It. It's a aries too, but I 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: love them together. Give it up, y'all for D Dustin 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Ross and D Claudia Jordan. 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: It is an airy sandwich with a little Libra in 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: the middle. 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: I was so surprised you just hit me about the 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: blue because Carlos is so hard to get a hold 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: of now, because he's so popular, he's so rich, he's 33 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: so famous, he's courtyard. He's hiding the identity of who 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: he's dating. I mean to me, I was like, oh 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: my god, did he need a real journalist? I don't know, 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: but where I am? So you want me to speak 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: on things with my journalistic skills? 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 5: Damn right, that's right. Cloud. 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 4: Hey Bi. 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: Rain drops, you don't have real friends. If you're real friends, 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: they'll read you for films. I go people all the time. 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: That's the Claudia. 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: First of all, Claudia, you and I do talk often, 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: and I, Claudia. 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: Not enough. I missed you. That's all I know. 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: Listen, I all the girls need some Carlos time. And 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I make sure to distribute it equally. But Claudia, I 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: miss you so much. What have you been up to? 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: Because I mean I know because we do talk, so 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: I know all the amazing things you're doing. Can you 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: share with the rain drops what you've been up to? 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: Because you are somebody that they still ask about whenever 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: I do a podcast like can you bring Claudia back? 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: So I want you to have the time to update. 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: That goes to cat to child. So it's her feet fixed? 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: What's going on? 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Bait? 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: My fee have been fixed for a couple of years now. 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: And I actually went with Mimi to the same doctor 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: and MEI just got her feet fixed. What was wrong 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: with she had bunions. She had bunions, so they shaved 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: the bone down. Wait till you see the job that 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: doctor Wagner did at Jaws the Dietary down in Florida. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: He hooked her up like it is amazing. Actually, I 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: sent you a message because he needs a show like 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: like doctor Pumble Popper, my feet are killing me. He 67 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: needs a show like it's so amazing what he does. 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: He changed my life because you know, I was shamed 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: to death for revealing my feet on Housewives. I only 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: did it because my storyline was going to be I 71 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: was gonna fix it on your show. But them I 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: found out how brutal the you know, how barbaric the 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: surgery was. 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: So I said, oh my god, forget it. But it 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: was too late. Y'all already had the footage. 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: And I just want to say, y'all are because in 77 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: the show and I have to just tell one industry secret. 78 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: Whoever edited made the corns look way darker and worse 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: in the pictures. I went on on the video than 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: what it wasn't real life because people see me in 81 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: real life they're. 82 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: Like, oh, they played you. 83 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know, they want to look darker. Yes, 84 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: my mother was like really. I was like, I know, mom, 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: but it's okay. I'm gonna fix some ten years later, 86 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: and I did. 87 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: So. 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Anyways, Claudia, somebody said foot edge. You know what, my 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: feet are? 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: Cute? 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: Now they go right in your boyfriend's mouth. Oh feet, 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: Well they're a little ashy, so let me not do that. 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: Okay, they better though. 94 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 5: Okay, that's what and that's why it matters, Claudia. That's why. 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I've been. 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: Doing a lot of movies I have a theatrical release 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 3: coming out. It's called Run. It's a horror film. It's amazing. 98 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 3: Dreuici Door, isn't it? Annie Alonza, Erica Pinkett, Erica Meta myself. 99 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: It is a really good Marcus Houston. It's a dope movie. 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: It's in theaters across America this summer's calling Run. 101 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 5: Thank you. 102 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: I just have played another lead in another movie, The Handyman. 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: I was in every scene. Uh, that's gonna come out soon. 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: Just a lot of films. 105 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: I have a podcast with Erica Cobb called Accidentally Informed. 106 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: It's really good, by the way. 107 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: Thank you. 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: We're gonna shift to do it weekly, to do it 109 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: on hot more topical. So we're gonna go live on Wednesday, 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: So just go to our YouTube channel. And we're just 111 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: trying to build that. So just a lot of little things, 112 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: remodeling my house. 113 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: Been really busy. You know, life is good, traveling. 114 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: You know, are you dating anybody? 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: No? I have been celibate for a while. 116 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy wasting all this good vagina. So on 117 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: that note, but doesn't sweat out with me in my 118 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: last book, like you know, dustin't seem you know. 119 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Wait, the one that was in the sports industry. 120 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: With a coach, but because you know, it's okay, okay, 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: it's fine. 122 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: But I have met the coach. 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: He was cool. Yeah, we made we hung out with 124 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 5: a few times, but. 125 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: No one, no boyfriend since I just dated like one 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: person since then. 127 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 4: But I keep my personal very very very very very low. 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 3: And that's why I think people make a lot of 129 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: rumors because I don't really say what it really is. 130 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: It's very on the low. 131 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: Like I just let people think, oh, she can't get 132 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: a man, she sleeps with cats. I kind of like 133 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: to play that character, like, yeah, yeah, I can't get 134 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: a man. I do have a crush on someone right now, 135 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: but this person doesn't know yet, so I haven't like, 136 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: let this person know. 137 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: I do have a crush on someone. 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 6: I know who it is, and they're gonna look so 139 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 6: good together too, because they're going to me, they're gonna 140 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 6: be Okay, is he an actor? 141 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 4: No, actors are crazy? 142 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: I know. 143 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: Is he in the industry? 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: No? 145 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: No, not not TV and movies and stuff like that. 146 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: I haven't met yet. I'm just manifesting it. 147 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 5: But yeah, you have too, you just don't know it. 148 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Cool because I was thinking about Aaron Pierre. You guys 149 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: look good together. 150 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: Oh, he's fine, but he's with my girl, Tianna Taylor, 151 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: and they look sexy together. 152 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: Well, I think so is that. 153 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 5: They did a soft launch. 154 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 4: They did a soft launch. 155 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: That's what the headlines read today. 156 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 6: Yes, Tianna Taylor confirms her relationship with Aaron pa That's 157 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 6: a beautiful couple. 158 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: They probably have some good ass sex too. 159 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: She don't miss because her any minds. 160 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: You know she's anyone because I love her. I'm a fan. 161 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: How can you look bad next to you? 162 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 6: Got to be an ugly motherfucker look bad next to 163 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 6: Tianna Taylor. 164 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: That's the thing. 165 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 166 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: So that's why my next man, I think I want somebody. 167 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: Who are you gonna take to the game? 168 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: Carlos, Well, I realized I can't take anybody to the 169 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: game because the rain drops saw me on TV Claudia 170 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: if it took a screenshot and putting on Twitter. 171 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: But thankfully with a girl. 172 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: Oh I saw that. 173 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: But you wanted to take a guy though, I was going. 174 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: To take this guy to a game for our first date. 175 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 6: That would have been a fun first day court sight 176 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 6: at the game. That's that's I like. 177 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 5: First days like this one. 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: So it ain't even that. He just ain't sitting nowhere else. 179 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 6: That's all it is. That's just what he said. If 180 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: you're gonna go to the game with him, you get 181 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 6: to then sit courtside as well, because this nigga ain't 182 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 6: gonna sit in the wheld, said the Republican. 183 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: That's what it is. 184 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: X Claudia. 185 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you too, are hair because we get 186 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: to recap the real. 187 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: Of Atomic Part three re union. 188 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: It was many things that happened, and I want to 189 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: start off with Mia Thornton. 190 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: Who, yeah, who cares that she left? Who gives a fuck? 191 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 6: I didn't get was that was so that fell so 192 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: flat and it was so monotone for. 193 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 5: Me, me, oh, you call me a bad mother? 194 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 6: And then she's walking out with all the dramatics and 195 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 6: then black shades on. See it get on because as 196 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 6: you can see, that reunion roll right on along without 197 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 6: her and everything. Actually, the reunion got better once she 198 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 6: left because we started getting real deal receipts, pulled out, 199 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 6: real time receipts, actual you know, participation from the ladies 200 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 6: on stage. After that that made sense. They weren't doing 201 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 6: nothing but playing ping pong with me at the whole time. Anyway, Giselle, uh, Wendy, 202 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 6: who else was tagging me? Is that everybody? So when 203 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 6: it was time for her to go, shit, I was 204 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 6: happy she left. Not in a negative way. I'm just 205 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 6: saying I was glad to wrap all that up, you 206 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I was happy to wrap all 207 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 6: that up. 208 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: I watched it today, and you know, I got admitted. 209 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: Ever since I have been on a show like that 210 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: and long, I haven't really watched a lot of reality 211 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: shows like that. But I did watch the reunion, and 212 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: I think Potomac the times I have watched is a 213 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: good I think it's the best one of all the 214 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: shows right now. 215 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 5: I really do for sure. 216 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, they are mean, Like I would 217 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 4: hate me. I was like, oh my god, Like what. 218 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: Like on Atlanta they would have been fighting probably, you know, 219 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: it would have been some hair driving or something, but 220 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: they was really like going at it. And I was like, 221 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: oh my god, I do not envy that. But it 222 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: was fun to watch. But me, I think she should 223 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: have stayed. You know, I think with to be called 224 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: the bad mother, I'm sure that's painful, but you're you've 225 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: been on. 226 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: The show long enough to know what that's the leap 227 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: of it, Like, come on, you gotta be able to 228 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: expect that on going. 229 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: You had always have one in the talk, Like when 230 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: I would do a show, I'd always have Okay, this 231 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: person might company, I'm gonna have three things for you, 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 3: you know, just the top of the top of mind 233 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: in case you. 234 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: Wait, paused the cause because this is the thing that oh, 235 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: I love my podcast is because it's so like inside 236 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: Baseball but some shit. 237 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: So listen, I know how some of the reality. 238 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: Girls work, right, they definitely have information in their arsenal 239 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: that they choose to keep until you get clopped. So, Claudia, 240 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: when you were doing reality television, would you have information 241 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: in back your mind that would be like I'm not 242 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna say anything, but the bumma you tried me, I'm 243 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: going to reveal it. 244 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely ablutely, like it's it's in politics. They like to 245 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: call it opposition research, Like you know, you just have 246 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: to do a little too. 247 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: In case anyone want to get froggy. I never start 248 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: anything in my entire life. 249 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: As an areas, we don't start anything, but we are 250 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: very good at finishing it. 251 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: It's so good that people think you came on. 252 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: There with a motive. 253 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: No, you have a couple like. 254 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: Just do just get a little bit of info so 255 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: if they comf you, you have something, so you don't 256 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: just sit there like a gear in the headlights. 257 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: But this, yeah, it's. 258 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: Called the united Place, Baith, It's called the big. 259 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 5: Joker, big joker. Yeah yeah. 260 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 6: It's also called being around a whole bunch of opts, right, like, 261 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 6: if you with your friends, you're not thinking, okay, well 262 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 6: let me keep this in the chamber in case me 263 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 6: and this person argue. 264 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: You don't even have those sort of thoughts. But if 265 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 5: you're on some. 266 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 6: People you don't know and who they have the propensity 267 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 6: to start some shit, then yeah, I mean those starts 268 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 6: are just gonna come to me anyway, because our Craig 269 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: jokes for a living, So you know what I'm saying. 270 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 6: I'm already on that. You know what I'm saying. So 271 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 6: if you are and I then we really can just 272 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 6: go there. So that's airy shit, though, Claudia, you know, 273 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 6: it's just we're not sensitive like that. 274 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: We can go rule by the head. 275 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,239 Speaker 4: You know, we have always. 276 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: So do you really okay, Claudia. 277 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: You being a former real housewife, you know how the 278 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: sausage is made. Did you think it was a bad 279 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: luck for Mia. It's one thing to leave. 280 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: The set, right to have a breakdown in your dressing room. 281 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Mia left the actual building, changed clothes, hopped in her 282 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: black car and never came back. You being a former housewife, 283 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: was that a bad thing to do? 284 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: Not that I have a lot of experience because people 285 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 4: loved to remind me I was a what I was 286 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: only off of one season? 287 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes you still talk about it eighteen years later, but yes, 288 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: I think you should. I understand because I remember getting 289 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: emotional on the next fifteen. There was a lot of 290 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: things that were like people come at me from all directions, 291 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: and it was very hard. 292 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, I was late to the. 293 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: Reunion because I didn't want to do it, but I 294 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: did have an obligation to finish my story out and 295 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: let the fans know, like what the you know, put 296 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: a button on it. You know. 297 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: I think if she didn't want to be around those ladies, 298 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: then do your reunion from your dressing room. 299 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: Will you you at least give something from the dress 300 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: room where you can say something, because leaving like that, 301 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: you know, leaving like that, you kind of leave it 302 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: up for everyone else to write your story for you 303 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 3: and you really have no say and you just have 304 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: to deal with it and just go on social media. Actors, 305 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 3: I think she could have stayed and maybe responded from 306 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: her dressing room. 307 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: You know. I think people think in the moment, like 308 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: this is I'm gonna eat this and just walk out. 309 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: You know. 310 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Have you ever like made a grand exit and you're 311 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: thinking like they're gonna come after. 312 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: You, like wait, wait, wait, and they don't. 313 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 5: You're like, oh shit, that ain't never happened to me. 314 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: God damn it. No, hell no, that's never happened to me. 315 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 6: But it did happen to Mia, just like you're saying, 316 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 6: nobody cared and it's so funny. There was some headlines 317 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 6: circulating when they were filming the reunion that there was 318 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 6: a rumor about some sort of physical altercation that didn't happen, 319 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 6: or at least wasn't shown on camera. If it did, 320 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 6: I don't believe it happened because I haven't seen anything 321 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 6: else other than those rumors, right, But those rumors made headlines. 322 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 6: The fact that Mia actually left the reunion did not 323 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 6: Oh so I think that shows you how anticlimactic it was. 324 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 6: And I don't think she had nothing else in her. 325 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 6: It's very easy to say, all right, you went too far, 326 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 6: so now I'm done with this shit when you don't 327 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: have nothing else to offer because you didn't got caught 328 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 6: busted and slapped in the face with the truth around 329 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 6: every corner you turn. 330 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: She ain't have nothing else to give. She had to 331 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: get the fuck out of there. 332 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 6: And I think she was uncomfortable in that dress because 333 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 6: them feathers that had to be tickling and itching, you know. 334 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: What I'm saying. 335 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 6: I know the air was on in there in that room, 336 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 6: and them damn feathers rubbing up against you and shit 337 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 6: and me always looked like she finished sneeze anyway. 338 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: Off. 339 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 6: She had to take that ship off, you know what 340 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 6: I'm saying. That's why she left. She was sicking in closed, That's. 341 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 5: What it was. Carls. 342 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: Do you not get your whole check if you don't 343 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: finish the reunion? 344 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Oh that's a really good ques. 345 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh this is okay As a journalist, I'm not being shitty. 346 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: I really was with the newspaper for a while in RDA. 347 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, you're a real adrenaline care 348 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: not at your journaling stuff. He else, So Chlodia asking me, 349 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: do you not get your whole check when you're not 350 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: a reunion? 351 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Okay? So, and that's a great question for the audience. 352 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: When you film a reality show, you get paid per episode, right, 353 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: So because Mia was in every episode, she did get 354 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: paid because she was in these episodes. Now granted she 355 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: was in five minutes of the episode, but the moment 356 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: your face appears in the episode, you do get paid 357 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: for your your full episodic rate. So Mia did get paid. 358 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: And I want to say this. I want to say that, 359 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna keep it real. Y'all know, I love Mia. 360 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: I call her mabe lyon and I did feel like. 361 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: Me I had a lot of potential. 362 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: One thing I will say is I Carlos King obviously 363 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: was very disappointed that she left the building, right because 364 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: this is this is this is how I feel and 365 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: and and doesn't Claudia, I would love for you guys 366 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: to comment about this too. 367 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: To be the star or the queen bee or. 368 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: The force multiplier of a reality show, you gotta take 369 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: the good with the good and the bad with the bad. 370 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: It's not easy. 371 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: It's not easy, and that goes with any position in life, 372 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: whether you're a lawyer. 373 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: A doctor, what marketing, whatever your job is. When you 374 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: are at the top of your game, you're going to 375 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: get attacked. You're going to get attacked. 376 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: And this is something that because me and Claudia are 377 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: friends in real life, and me and Claudia spoke by 378 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: this my podcast when she was a guest. She is 379 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: one of the few people who've been on twice. That's 380 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: how iconic he is, so listen to it. 381 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: But Claudia the next fifteen Claudia was not going to 382 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: come to the reunion. 383 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: And one thing I love about my girls, if they 384 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: feel some kind of way, I always say to them, 385 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: if it's that bad, call me, call me. To her credit, 386 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Claudia called me and said it's too much. I can't 387 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: take it. She and I had a conversation. Claudia came 388 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: in and delivered. Claudia delivered that reunion right. And being 389 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: a reality star is not easy. You're getting judge every 390 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: single week that parlays in two days, often because of 391 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: your appearance. And I believe in Mia and I'm being honest. 392 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: I know a star when I see one. I believe 393 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: in Mia. Now I am disappointed only because I know 394 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: that Miya has what it takes. 395 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: And I wish that Mia. 396 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: Would do what some of the other girls do and 397 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: they call me before the reunion anyway, I wish that 398 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: Mia would have would have done what Claudia did, which 399 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: is sort of like, I gotta sit through this and 400 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. And I want this to 401 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: be a message to anybody who's at the top of 402 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: their game in their job. 403 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: When you are at the. 404 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Top, people are going to try to drag you to 405 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: the bottom, and the worst thing you can do is 406 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: satisfy them by doing what Mia did. That I just 407 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: didn't like, which is left the entire building because for me, 408 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: Claudia is right in terms of that stage. 409 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: You're going to get pop pa pa, pa pal, but 410 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: you have. 411 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: To be able to withstand it. And I know Mia 412 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: has it in her. I know she does. I'm sad 413 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: she left, and what's sad about it? And this I'm 414 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: gonna be very very very honest here, very honest. What's 415 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: said about Mia leaving is two things. 416 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: For me. 417 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: One, I always tell people this, the show must go on. 418 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: And Dustin Ross is right. The show went on and 419 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: this is no shade. The show was great. It was, 420 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: it was, it was, It was actually funny, and I 421 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: enjoyed the entire reunion. So that's number one. Never think 422 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: that you're irreplaceable. Nobody on God's Green Earth should think that, 423 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: like we all are replaceable. 424 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: That's number one. 425 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: Number two, I felt bad for Mia because now I'm like, 426 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Mia will go down in history as the first housewife 427 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: who left the reunions building building, not just left like 428 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: or then show up. 429 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: She left the building. 430 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: And it's sad because I'm like, where does she go 431 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: from here? 432 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: And that's that's my concern for her. I love Mia. 433 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: I hope that Mia is able. 434 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: To sit back and see the rammifications of that and 435 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: do right by it. 436 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: But I love me. Some mea down, but I'm being honest. 437 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 2: I was disappointed. 438 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: It's a lost opportunity to like because now we're left 439 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: to assume, well, where were the worst things that she 440 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: didn't want out? You know, like, what else was there? 441 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: Was she afraid something I was gonna get spilled? 442 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 4: It's so hard And does I know areas we talked. 443 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: About this, I know I'm built for me versus a 444 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: thousand people and it is a very scary thing and 445 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: it sucks to feel like it's you versus the world. 446 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: But I promise you, miya, when you get to the 447 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: other side of that, like very little things will phase you. 448 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't care what anybody. 449 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 4: Else says I was. 450 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm never I've never been one of the girls on 451 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 3: the clique. I've always been on my own. I've had 452 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: a stand on business and have an unpopular opinion about things. 453 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: But god damn it. 454 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: I believe in my intelligence and I believe in my integrity, 455 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: and if I feel I am right, then I'm not 456 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: going anywhere. Y'all don't have to go around me and MEA. 457 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, she was full of shit, Claudia. She did not 458 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 6: have integrity to stand on. She was talking sitting up there, 459 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: trying to defend some lies and some really gross behavior, 460 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 6: some behavior that rigged gross on the television. You can't 461 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 6: get around that unless you step right into it. Yo, 462 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: this is the truth. Here's how I feel about this, 463 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 6: and then people can begin to empathize with you, understand you, 464 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 6: relate with you, and. 465 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 5: Connect with you. 466 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 6: We all watched that, and that's why they were just 467 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 6: bouncing her ping pong right across the fucking stage all 468 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 6: damn day because she was not bringing anything substantive or real. 469 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: And that's the difference. 470 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 6: You can stand on your shit because you're telling the 471 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: truth about whatever you're talking about, and the opinion that 472 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 6: you're defending is founded in something. Me was sitting up 473 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 6: there just talking shit and saying she was sorry when 474 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: she really wasn't sorry. So she was playing a game 475 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: that there was no end game for she was. It 476 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 6: was just a lose situation. That's why I was like, gone, 477 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 6: you know. 478 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 5: And when she didn't know, I don't know that about her. 479 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: I know I picked in the show before and I 480 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: was like, Wow, that girl has a lot going on, 481 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: and like Carlo says, the potential to really be the 482 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: start because she had she had so much drama that 483 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: was like, okay, she gonna be. 484 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: She had the first Listen, I told you all this 485 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: tea already. 486 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: The first chair is important. To have the first chair. 487 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: It is a reward two years in a row. 488 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Wow, let me tell you something, baby. 489 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: To have the first chair two years in a row 490 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: is a reward of like you, that girl, We're gonna 491 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: we have to we have. 492 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: To give it up and and and. 493 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: That's why I'm disappointed, because I know it's tough, and 494 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: it's very tough, but when you want to be the 495 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: top dog in any situation, and that's why it's a 496 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: life rule, you have to know when you're at the top, 497 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: you're going to get attacked. And it's one thing that 498 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Denzel Washington told Will Smith the night of the Oscar slap. 499 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: He said, at your highest, be careful. That's when the 500 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: double comps and want to you when you down. 501 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 3: And out And in second place, no one attacks losers. 502 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: No one attacks you when you last. No one attacks 503 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: the bumb no one attacks when. 504 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 4: You itce a run track. First place was a blue ribbon, 505 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: second place was a red ribbon. 506 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: And third place was white, and after that was all 507 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: these abstract pastels and purple and lavender and baby blue, 508 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: and one about the person that gets the orange ribbon. 509 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: So if they're coming for you, they're coming for you 510 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: for a reason. 511 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 4: So just know that. 512 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 6: Mia is disappointing for me because she has everything it 513 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 6: takes to be a success on the show. That's why 514 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 6: they keep putting her in that first seat chair. But 515 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 6: she's fucking it up with the games, and that's what 516 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 6: the problem is for the fans, at least for this fan. 517 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, just keep it real. 518 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: We would love to see her and Gordon figure shit 519 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 6: out for real, for real, whether that means them staying 520 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: together or get a divorce. But the game playing and 521 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 6: the line and shit is what makes it repulsive. 522 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 5: I think that's. 523 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: That's a frustrating thing about reality TV when half of 524 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: y'all are really putting it on the table and being honest, 525 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: and then people over here, yes, he blew up the spot. 526 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: People over here being fake, lying, being fake, religious, fake, rich, 527 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 3: fake hat and everything, and you're being honest, and then 528 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: you end up getting criticized or coming being kind of 529 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: misunderstood or dragged for your realness. Because I'm telling y'all, 530 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: reality TV audiences, y'all have been so trained to celebrate 531 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: the fake because there's so much of it that is 532 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: to frustrated me, especially around some of these Southern gals 533 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: that really be trying to use religion that is to 534 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: really pissed me off, because it'd be o fake, and 535 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: that would be a way to kind of mask the 536 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: deviant behavior sometimes, you know, and there'd be a lot 537 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: of lying. I'm like, just you, I promise you, you'd 538 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: be more interesting if you just cap a. 539 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: Buck about what you really are like. 540 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: Because how can you maintain that false image? And that's 541 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: not just people in reality, that's people in general. Like 542 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: people like to quote God, quote the Bible and make 543 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: that's gonna make us forget about all your affairs or 544 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: all your frinds, your debauchery, you know. 545 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 6: That's or do whatever they want, whatever kind of file 546 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 6: trifling shit they want to do, for years and years 547 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 6: and years and then just decide, Oh, I'm giving my 548 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 6: life over to the Lord and I'm fin to judge 549 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 6: all y'all, and y'all gotta don't worry about what I did. 550 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 6: Look where I'm at now. No, it don't work like that. 551 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 6: Integrity is something that you are that's proven through time 552 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: and circumstances and shit like. 553 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: So, I don't know. 554 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 6: That was kind of people irritate me too, Yeah, that 555 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 6: was my problem with that. That's why I'm not excited 556 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 6: about Faeder coming back to Atlanta. Not excited at all. 557 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 6: And unless somebody is going to call her to the 558 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 6: carpet for that candy shit from season nine, I don't 559 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 6: want to hear anything she has to say. 560 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to vack you up on that because every 561 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: time I've been afraid to say stuff because I feel 562 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: like when I do, for some reason, just because I 563 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: was on the show for one season, I'm not allowed 564 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: to say as much as a fan can say. 565 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 4: Fuck that and fuck y'all. I'm gonna speak on it. 566 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 3: I feel you on that because I think she's one 567 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: of the main people that I think was very phony, 568 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: very fake, but she. 569 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: It is good television because of that. 570 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: She's when you are willing to say or do anything 571 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: on reality TV. It's it does make you a star 572 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: in reality But I just feel like a lot of 573 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: times people get positively reading negatively, we positively reinforced and 574 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 3: negative behavior with contracts, with money, with bookings, with adoration 575 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: because it entertains us. But then people are not really 576 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 3: held accountable for really vicious things that they do. And 577 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that's right, you know, And I think 578 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: people keep getting rewarded for doing function and what's the 579 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: motivational stot. 580 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 6: And see you've spent time with Phaedra specifically, since we're 581 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 6: talking about her, I'm speaking just from a viewer of 582 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 6: the show. That was an open ended situation that we 583 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 6: never got closure on, and we then went on to 584 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 6: see her have a real time, real life fall out 585 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 6: with Candy. 586 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 5: We went on to. 587 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 6: See Phaedra after a few years, well about five six 588 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 6: years she was away, and then we saw her. She 589 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 6: came on to Traders, and then she got danced with 590 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 6: the stars, and then she got married to medicine or 591 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 6: whatever order that went in, and now she's back on 592 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 6: Housewives of Atlanta, right, But we've never gotten closer to 593 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 6: that situation that she exited the show from, and I 594 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: am it's hard for me to connect with her just 595 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 6: stepping back in and we getting to the bottom of 596 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 6: her saying that you know what I'm saying and telling 597 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 6: those lies. That's something that should be addressed on that 598 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 6: show so that the story can continue appropriately. 599 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 5: And I really had somebody I agree. 600 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: With that like what like nothing, Okay, let me take 601 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: a step back, live before I be accused of being 602 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: a hater, because I'm not. Okay, redemption people deserve to 603 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 3: have second chances, whatever I guess, but but I think, 604 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: like to your point, I think it would be great 605 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: and it would be defend that explain it put a 606 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: button on that as well, and then we move forward. 607 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: But to just ignore something main reason for your exit 608 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: and to not address it and to let you back on, 609 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: I think that's where it kind of leaves a bad 610 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: taste in one's mouth. Child. 611 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: We are just getting started. This is reality with the 612 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. Well, 613 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: let me ask you guys this because you know, one 614 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: thing that happened on Potomac in this episode two was 615 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: this sort of like shocking revelation right that even me 616 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: watching it, I was shocked that I was talking for 617 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. But I want to get you 618 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: guys thoughts on it too, because to me, it's sort 619 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: of like what's the integrity of reality television? Right like 620 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: at this point, sort of like what is going to 621 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: happen if you're allowed to get away with this? So 622 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: one thing that occurred on Potomac was this revelation. 623 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: So Claudia, I know you're catching up on this. 624 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: So stay sees a new housewife who gives you Kenya 625 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Moore tease just like tall beautiful. She's from Detroit as well, 626 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: not a shade assassin because Kenya can read the motherfucker 627 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: bone book right, very smart and Kenya is actually smart right, 628 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: very smart. Thank you, so, long story short, Stacey's a 629 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: new housewife. Stacey had this best friend on the show 630 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of people question whether not the relationship 631 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: was real. They questioned the validity of this relationship and 632 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: it was something Claudia that was constant, do you know 633 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: what I mean in terms of like me and Dusk 634 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: would talk about like there's something off about it. 635 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Fast forward to the reunion. 636 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: This is episode twenty Claudia twenty episodes in of people 637 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: having these speculations. It's Denver build On Part three, TJ, 638 00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: who was facetimed by the husband's on the show, Claudia 639 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: asking where you at, bro Well, I am there. 640 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: She didn't. Stacey didn't want me there. 641 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: She owes me my name, and then it was sort 642 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: of like and listen, I'm gonna say this and I. 643 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: Want you guys to cook. 644 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: When it was presented to Stacey that TJ alleged that 645 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: she paid him, I'm just being very honest. It was 646 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: hard for me to believe Stacy for one reason alone. 647 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna keep it real. 648 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: If you lie on me, If I'm a reality star, 649 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Claudia and Dustin. I've given my whole life to this show. 650 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm used to cameras being around me. I'm used to 651 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: a microphone on my back, and I'm used to y'all 652 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: telling my real reality. Right with this person, not my cousin, 653 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: y'all don't know, not my not this friend I went 654 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: to middle school with. We're talking about somebody I brought 655 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: on the show. If this person I brought on the 656 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: show and I'm a reality star lied on me, I 657 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: am picking up my phone in real time calling them. 658 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: When these ladies gave her the opportunity to. 659 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: Do that, I was like, Stacy, I love you, down, 660 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: says me and be lying Stacey be lying I'm. 661 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 6: Sorry, Yeah, I agree. But now I also want to 662 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 6: make note of this. All season long, TJ was adamant 663 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 6: about abstaining from sex with Stacy and him wanting to 664 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 6: not be intimate with her, and he related that to 665 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: a correlated that to his faith. 666 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 5: It was a faith based decision for him. 667 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 6: Right, he was saying, and his love of guy right, right, 668 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 6: but no follow me, follow me right. But when Eddie 669 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 6: and them called him backstage, TJ got on that phone 670 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 6: talking like me that fake ass, showing him fake ass 671 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 6: for the fucking p and Cussin talking about exposing the 672 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 6: fact that, according to him, his presence there was paid 673 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying by Stacy, which shows like, 674 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 6: you know, just just deceit and things that are not 675 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 6: are typically associated with the Christian faith. So I don't 676 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 6: know what to believe, because I definitely felt like Stacey 677 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 6: was lying on that couch, and she continued to lie 678 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 6: allegedly on Watch What Happens Live because she doubled down 679 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: on it. However, TJ went live today. I saw this, 680 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 6: you know, when I was prepping for the show. He 681 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 6: went live today saying he had just landed somewhere and 682 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: he was playing coy and saying that maybe it's time 683 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 6: for me to drop some breaking news. 684 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: So he's eating up the. 685 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 6: Spotlight like we all knew he would, and playing directly 686 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 6: into the mess of all of this. I think they 687 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 6: lying together, That's what I think. I think they both lying. 688 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 6: I think that TJ is exaggerating something because he was 689 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 6: a totally different nigga on that phone than he was 690 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 6: during the season, totally different person, and I think that 691 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 6: Stacey was less than honest I don't know about what, 692 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 6: but I think she was less than honest when the 693 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 6: shit hit the fan at that reunion because she wasn't prepared. 694 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 6: And Stacey is a person that stepped on that reunion 695 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 6: stage prepared for everything that was going to come her way. 696 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 6: She was measured, she was prepared. That hit her from 697 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 6: the side. She was blindsided by that. So I think 698 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 6: they both. 699 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: Waitlau before you go, because I'm actually gagin and I wanted. 700 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: Him a Claudia. 701 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: So Dustin, you think, I just want to be clear. 702 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: You think TJ is lying about being paid to be 703 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: on the show by Stacy, that's what you think. 704 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's exaggerated something in some way. If 705 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: there was some money exchanged, I don't think that they 706 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 6: sat down and had an agreement where she said you 707 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 6: be in the show and I'll pay you to be here. 708 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 6: I think he's exaggerating something that took place that he 709 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 6: can frame as such because he wants more attention. 710 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 5: The season's over and Stacey's not fucking with him. 711 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 6: She's not giving him that access that he once had, 712 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 6: So now he's going to get it by exposing things 713 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 6: or dropping information or becoming a person who has some 714 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 6: sort of some commodity, something of value to the media. 715 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 5: That's what he's trying to do. Now. I don't give 716 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: a damn about their relationship. 717 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 6: They could have been button naked next to me right 718 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 6: now and I'd be looking at y'all. However, people are 719 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 6: interested in whether or not it was a real situation, 720 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 6: and so they want to know he's playing the game 721 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 6: and feeding just enough to keep people interested. 722 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 5: In what he has to say. 723 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 6: I don't know where he thinks he's going to go 724 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 6: with that, but that's what he's doing. And Stacey is 725 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 6: not telling the truth about something. I don't know what, 726 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 6: but I just like you, Carlos, I sat there on 727 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 6: that couch and it was a noticeable difference between the 728 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 6: way she was presenting when Wendy dropped that bomb and 729 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 6: pre prior to that, it was totally different. 730 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 5: So I think there was something off in there. 731 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan, what. 732 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: Did I just say about the fake religious people. I 733 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: know people think I'm talking about a certain one or 734 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: two people on Housewives. 735 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the entire industry. 736 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: I don't trust people that lead with that and then 737 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: they do reality television. I feel like there's a lot 738 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: of people that use that to trick they manipulate us. 739 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: I think someone put religious or faith manipulation, using that 740 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: to get people to think they're a certain way, but 741 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: they're really not. Oh I'm abstaining from sex and not 742 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: doing this. What niggain't fucking nowadays? You miss me with 743 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: the bullshit that has access And also what person has 744 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: to be paid to go on one of the hottest 745 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 3: reality shows that's out there when people are on Instagram, Twitter, Twitch. 746 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: TikTok, Facebook giving all their tea away for free, Miss 747 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: me with that, bs. 748 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: I do not believe that when I hear people say, oh, 749 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 3: they paid them to be on the show with them, 750 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: and you're a beautiful girl. 751 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 4: Do you know how easy it is to get a nigga? 752 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 6: And my thing is, even if she did so what, 753 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 6: even if she did pay him so what, that would 754 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: make me look at her any differently? In fact, that 755 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 6: would make me be like, oh, she's smart because it's 756 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 6: not personal. She found somebody who could just get the 757 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 6: job done. That wouldn't even make me look at her 758 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 6: in a weird way. So I wish she would just 759 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 6: say that if that's true, Yeah, I found somebody. 760 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: I do agree that there's something that she definitely was 761 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 3: caught off guard. 762 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: She wasn't ready for that like that they did not 763 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: talk about that. 764 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 3: But I also have a hard time believing people once 765 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 3: you break up, because there's always the person you get 766 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 3: with is not the person you break up with. 767 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 4: How many of us have all been in love with. 768 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 3: Someone that we would never in a million years think 769 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: that they would say this, that, and the thought about us. 770 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: But then they break you break up and they are 771 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: a different human being. They line on you, they paying blogs, 772 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 3: the post stories about you and make you look bad. 773 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: Now you're an asshole, Now you're bad in bed, Now 774 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 3: you're broke. 775 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 4: But they were singing your praises before. 776 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: So bitterness will change your opinion about someone. And so 777 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 3: I don't believe. I want to know when y'all are 778 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: in it, how y'all think about each other. But at 779 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: the end we all mad at each other. I'm sorry, 780 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: It's very easy to lie now. I'm not saying he's innocent. 781 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 4: I don't really know. 782 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: She definitely was caught up guard. There was something going on, 783 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, were gonna believe people, And 784 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: like Stacey made a good point, the entire season. Y'all 785 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 3: want rocking with this dude. Y'all weren't feeling him. But 786 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 3: now that that he's saying, bad's up about me, now 787 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 3: you want to. 788 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 5: See I got it? 789 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 6: Okay, So listen, don't be presenting me with no alternative 790 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 6: scenario to consider. Let me come to that conclusion on 791 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 6: my own. I agree with that. You sound like trying 792 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,479 Speaker 6: to convince me. You know what I'm saying. 793 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll say this, and again, Stacey's a great housewife. 794 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: She's great. I'm gonna tell you what doesn't help her. 795 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm being real. This guy is an actor. Claudia Jordan, 796 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: he was. He was on Sister Sister to Tia Tamiroschelle. 797 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: Because Claudia, you know this. Claudia knows this for real, Parrell. 798 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: When you are on Housewives, or when you bring a 799 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: dude on Housewives, the Housewives fans are going to find 800 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: everything about this person, right who. 801 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 5: Remember that guy side of the show. 802 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 4: And I said, please, Carlos, do not because he's a fraud. 803 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: Remember that I do. We'll talk after. So the thing 804 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: is this, what doesn't help this? I'm just being real. 805 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: He's an actor. 806 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: He's an actor, So I'm gonna tell you three things 807 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: that makes TJ believable to the audience and to me 808 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: possibly right. 809 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 2: Number one, he's an actor. He's an actor. 810 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: And one thing we know about actors because you two 811 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: are actors, you too are and SAG. 812 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: And one thing you both know is people have to 813 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: pay for your time. People have to pay your time. 814 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: And if if it's my second point, if I'm out 815 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: on camera kissing you, touching you, yeah, and we're talking 816 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: about your divorce the whole time I'm there, something's off 817 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: about that. Number two and number three, I'm gonna say this, 818 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: What was the goal defining to me is if you 819 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: believed in your heart of hearts that this person was 820 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: somebody who you call your best friend. Like most paid gigs, 821 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: the contract is up, so I believe this is my opinion. 822 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: I believe. I believe allegedly that TJ was not in 823 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: his contract allegedly paid for reunion services. 824 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 2: I believe my opinion. 825 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: I believe TJ fulfilled his duties for the season. And 826 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: I believe based on based on Claudia and Dustin the 827 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: amount of attention he received, he said yesterday's price and 828 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: today's price, And I believe that TJ allegedly tried to 829 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: negotiate a different rate, and Stacey allegedly would have said no, 830 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: because my thing is this, Claudia, you were a housewife 831 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: and you're a reality star. How convenient is it people 832 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: break up when this season is over with and by 833 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: the time the reunion happens, we're no longer together. 834 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 4: Damn they really be paying people. Though maybe maybe they 835 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 4: She asked them, come on, maybe not pay them. 836 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 2: Reality TV ain't what it used to be. Go ahead 837 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: and asked him. 838 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 4: To, uh, you know, fake this with me. Maybe there 839 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 4: was no money transact. I don't know. I don't now 840 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: confuse both everybody made it. 841 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 6: See Okay, that's where that that's where the pivot is 842 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,879 Speaker 6: for me. If they were, if they had a relationship, 843 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 6: if they knew each other, I'll just say that right. 844 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 6: If she knows TJ right, and she's like, hey, I'm 845 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 6: about to film this show and I would love for 846 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,959 Speaker 6: you to film with me, you know, you know, it's 847 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 6: just film together, kicking it or whatever and figuring out 848 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 6: our relationship, and of course, you know, I'll pay you 849 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 6: for your time type shit. I don't see anything wrong 850 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 6: with that personally, And that being that coming out is 851 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 6: not an XBO say to me her saying, hey, I 852 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 6: don't know you stranger unless fake a relationship. 853 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 5: Here's a fee to pretend to be my boyfriend. That's 854 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna. 855 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: Stop you there. 856 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: And and I'm only saying this because they said it, 857 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: because Claudia knows this. I have never once told Claudia's business. 858 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: I don't tell my girl's business. I'm gonna say this 859 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: only because they said it. 860 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: Husband not all. 861 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: Some husbands over housewives get ten percent of their wife's check. 862 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 5: I don't see anything. 863 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you why don't I don't know. I'm 864 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 6: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what's different. I'm 865 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 6: gonna tell you why. 866 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: Peter and Cynthia had this conversation publicly that Cynthia Peter. 867 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 2: Is her husband. 868 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: Her husband, Okay, they had a conversation where when you're filming, right, Claudia, 869 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: especially housewives, because that's that's like, you know, that's that's rue. 870 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 2: You're dusting this. This is the reality. 871 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: Your time is being taken away. You got away in 872 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: the parking lot before you get called in. You gotta 873 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: get mind so dustin. It does feel like a job. 874 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: It really does. And that's the reason why Peter and 875 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: Cynthia had a conversation. And Cynthia have to pay Peter, 876 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: her husband to film. And what a lot of people 877 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know is a lot of the husbands get paid 878 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: because they don't get paid for them the housewife because 879 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: their time is being spent, their time is being taken away. 880 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and I love Stacy. I 881 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: love Stacy down and Stacey is a great housewife. Without Tea, 882 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: without TJ, what would Stacy talk about? 883 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 5: I don't know, Carlos. 884 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 6: I feel like Stacy brought a lot of new energy 885 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 6: to that cast this season, and my favorite moments from 886 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 6: her had nothing to do with her relationship with TJ. 887 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 5: Favorite moments from her were her. 888 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 6: Interacting with the ladies at that event, at the dog 889 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 6: Ship event at the end of the season, her laughing 890 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 6: at Ashley singing at the GNA event, her confessional scenes, 891 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 6: her at the table scene when they went on that 892 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,880 Speaker 6: cash trip and she was and they were cocking me 893 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 6: and Justine. 894 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 5: That's don't give her and that man because I never was. 895 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 2: That friend of tease. That's very much friend of Now I. 896 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 5: Agree with you, Okay, we can agree that started. 897 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: Off as a friend of and when she and when 898 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: she became a housewife. After filming Claudia, we have to 899 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 1: be like, well, she's a housewife, so we got any 900 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: personal story. And that's why I always believe Claudia deserved 901 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: a second chance because of those reasons. Everything was saying 902 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: is true. Everything Stacey did was amazing. But that's why 903 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: I said this. I'll say it again. I'll say it again. 904 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I say again. That's why when. 905 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 1: Claudia needed me and he had that moment in Puerto Rico, 906 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: Niini said to me and another producer, y'all chose the 907 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: wrong be Claudia deserves the peach. 908 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna say, because to. 909 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: Have that level of confidence and and and and stamina, 910 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: the fact that they are all, the fact that the 911 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: queen of reality television, the queen who I considered to 912 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: be the greatest reality start of all time, the fact 913 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: that she told us y'all made a mistake. 914 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: Claudia needs the peach. Let's be clear. 915 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, I appreciate her saying that because 916 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: I remember you all tell me. 917 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 4: At the time, I was. 918 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 3: Like, really, people thought we were really hating each other time, 919 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 3: and really it wasn't. She was around me after that 920 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 3: read in Puerto Rico, she got a stand next to Claudia. 921 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: She well again again, I would like to say everything, 922 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: but it's true, Nini. That's why it's two things. Dustin, 923 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,479 Speaker 1: You're right about Stacey. Everything's saying is right, But there 924 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: is this thing where when you are a housewife, it's like, okay, 925 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: besides the group scenes, girl, what are we getting from 926 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: you at the crib? And that's why to me, I'm 927 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: just being honest here. It is believable. I'm not saying 928 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: Stacy's lying. I'm not saying teacher's line. 929 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. All I'm saying is believable. 930 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: And the reason why I wanted to bring Claudia into 931 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: this too is because when you start off as a 932 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: friend of but you are like everything you said to Dustin, 933 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: you're then the group scene. You give a comment, you 934 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: give a facial expression, you throw a little shade. But 935 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: when you are a mother, housewife, or baby, who's your mama. 936 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 2: Where's your brother, who's your man? Where's your child? So 937 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: that's why I. 938 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: Can see Stacy feeling the need and I'm going in 939 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: with this because her real husband, who she is married to, 940 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: doesn't want her or her child on the show. 941 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 5: Wait what, that's what we saw kids? 942 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Claudia, Stacy's married, she's going divorce though, and she 943 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: has a beautiful daughter. 944 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 2: None of them on the show. 945 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: So when you that's why it's believable, because without all 946 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: of those extra factors, she will be the Marlon Hampton 947 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: of Potonemac A friend before got a pitch. 948 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of people, well a few 949 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 3: people in the comments are talking about Stacy's dude and 950 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 3: that they're questioning his sexuality. 951 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 4: Has that ever been a thing? 952 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is now from me and Dustin because 953 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: as listen, I'll say this listen as gay black man, 954 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: it's dangerous to sort of out somebody is TJ's. It's 955 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: TJ's decision to say whether or not he is. 956 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 2: That's not for us to call out Claudia. Obviously. 957 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: People are saying that that's why Eddie in this reunion 958 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: used to work flamboyant. 959 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 4: A little bit at him. 960 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 5: I don't think. 961 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Adi was throwing share. I think Eddie 962 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: was being careful in terms of life because the thing 963 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: is that it's dangerous. It's dangerous. It's nothing more dangerous 964 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: to out somebody than I am ready for it. And 965 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: it's also dangerous to label anybody something they or not. 966 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: So I just want to say that. So when it 967 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: comes to that, that has been a topic conversation. But 968 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,320 Speaker 1: that's TJ's story to tell. 969 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: From my listen. 970 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: From my understanding, he has yet to talk about it, 971 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: so I don't know. But what I'm saying is when 972 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: it comes to whether or not he is or isn't, 973 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: that to me is a mute point. 974 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: The biggest point is whether or. 975 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: Not this man was paid to be on the show, 976 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: because Stacy did not have any personal story outside of TJ. 977 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 4: Do you think men? 978 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 3: Do you think the boyfriends and husbands on reality TV 979 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: should get paid? 980 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,240 Speaker 4: You think that will help or hurt? 981 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. 982 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: The reason why I create a love and marriage is 983 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: because I listen. 984 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 2: I always felt that when it came to. 985 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: Reality TV, in order for you to understand the woman, 986 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: you also have to get to know her husband or 987 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: her boyfriend, right, And I feel like, and this is 988 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: my experience, the men they work season six, which will 989 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: go down to history in the Guinness Book of World 990 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: Records as the highest rated season of any Bravo show 991 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: that was the main season. 992 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 2: Claudia was a season before You got. 993 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: On where the men were integral into the storyline. And 994 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: that's the reason why that show that season was. That 995 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: season is tense a plus across the board. You had apollow, 996 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: Greg Leek's Rest in Peace. Todd, you had I'm missing 997 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: other hell, Brandon, you had you, you, you, you had. 998 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 2: You had the Christopher Christopher Williams, Oh. 999 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 5: My god, that was you. 1000 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 2: You you, you had the p o B of men. 1001 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: Because we don't live in a world where it's just 1002 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,240 Speaker 1: like one point of view, it's multiple. So I listen 1003 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: and I'll move on after this. If TJ got paid, 1004 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm just being real. I don't blame him only because 1005 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: as a child actor that he was, he's only used 1006 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: to working for conversation and and and and to. 1007 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 2: Film a reality show is a lot of work. And 1008 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: I get it, and I get it, but but but. 1009 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 1: It also questions the integrity of this genre because it's 1010 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: one thing to say he's my best friend who I'm 1011 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: interested in, but it's one thing to not really reveal 1012 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: that there's something else going on that we may not know, 1013 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: so it's all confusing. 1014 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 5: That's that's the piece that's confusing. 1015 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Claudia, I think. 1016 00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 4: They should be paid. 1017 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 3: I think it would avoid a lot of this because 1018 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 3: I get tired of this like and you hit this 1019 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 3: on so many shays, Oh they paid them to be 1020 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 3: there or and or you know, and all this kind 1021 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 3: of stuff. 1022 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 4: They should they are on part of the storyline. 1023 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 3: And then I think you'd also get more people willing 1024 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 3: to get on there because I remember towards the end 1025 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 3: of my season, well, at the end, y'all wanted me 1026 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 3: to come back with someone that I was talking to 1027 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 3: someone at the end and it wasn't worth it for 1028 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 3: him to risk stuff in his career because he had 1029 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 3: a very little successful and public career and there was 1030 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 3: no monetary, you know, payment for him. So it causes 1031 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 3: people to seek fake relationships and to have people come 1032 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 3: play the role because there's pressure to have someone right 1033 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 3: or you're the bitter cat lady that can't get a man. 1034 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 3: I think it probably help a lot in. 1035 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 6: My opinion, anybody working need to get paid straight up. 1036 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 6: So if I'm filming a show and the shit I 1037 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 6: have to say is a part of what the show 1038 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 6: is made of. 1039 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 5: I need to be paid. I don't see any problem 1040 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 5: with that. 1041 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 6: Everybody working to contribute to a project needs to be paid. 1042 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 1043 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: Our last story of the night is the Grandam who 1044 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: you know I love her and you know Evanie k 1045 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: Williams started this this show by discussing Karen being sentenced 1046 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: to two years in jail one year suspended, which means 1047 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,720 Speaker 1: she's been sentenced to one. 1048 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 2: Year in jail with the other year hanging over her head. 1049 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 2: She shall she do something wrong? 1050 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 5: Right? 1051 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: So there was a theme that played at the end. 1052 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: Of this reunion that made me feel sad. And I'm 1053 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna explain to you guys why Agrey Child. That made 1054 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,919 Speaker 1: me feel sad because there's this thing going on that 1055 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: has been said on Twitter for years about a rehearse 1056 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: read right, and that a lot of people you can 1057 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: tell when the reees rehearse because they step on their 1058 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: words and it's never it's never delivered. So this to me, 1059 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,800 Speaker 1: watching Karen and Ray felt like a rehearsed scene because 1060 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: as I was watching it in real time, this is 1061 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: when the producer side of me clicks in and I 1062 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: wonder if my audience saw this too, So Claudia and 1063 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: Dustin would love to get your thoughts. And I'm like, 1064 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: is this me as a viewer or is this me 1065 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: as a producer. The way you could tell a scene 1066 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: feels rehearsed is if every single point has hit where 1067 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 1: the two people talking. It's sort of like a tennis 1068 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: match where where they they give you a you know, 1069 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: ally who basketball, they give you a word, You take it. 1070 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1071 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: So the conversation between Ray and Karen the rehearse to me, 1072 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: and by rehearse, guys, what I mean is this that 1073 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: they talked about it. They said, let's let's drive these 1074 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: points home, the medication, the antidepressants, the beer. And then 1075 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: I got this because of that, no one talks like 1076 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: that in real life. And I felt sad because for me, 1077 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where I'm like, raise 1078 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: the good man, Savannah. 1079 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 2: I just felt bad because I felt sad. I'm sorry. 1080 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: I felt sad because I'm like, I wonder if there's 1081 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: any sort of accountability that's going to happen, because I 1082 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's. 1083 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 2: The way for you to win in the end. And 1084 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 2: I didn't see that in that scene to. 1085 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 6: Me me either, and that scene for first of all, 1086 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 6: had I been producing that scene, I would have cut 1087 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 6: the cameras and had a full stop meeting with Karen 1088 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 6: and Ray right then and been like, we can't turn 1089 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 6: that in. 1090 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 5: Y'all are being real. If we're going to do. 1091 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 6: This, we need to show the reality of what's going 1092 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 6: on your household right now, because that ain't it. 1093 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 5: Karen looked beautiful. I'll say that. 1094 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 6: She looks stunning in that white cable knit, you know, 1095 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 6: sweater dress. Her hair look good, She looked good. You know, 1096 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 6: I feel bad for Ray. It don't feel good to 1097 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 6: watch an eighty some year old man who really just 1098 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 6: want to be sitting down somewhere watching CBS, drinking some coffee, 1099 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. 1100 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 5: Being old, that's all you want to do. But he 1101 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 5: has to be. 1102 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 6: Out at court, pulling up to recks on the side 1103 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 6: of the road, trying to you know, he's still having 1104 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 6: to think like a younger man and think quick on 1105 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 6: his feet and come up with scenarios and schemes and 1106 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 6: shit in the moment. That's too much for him at 1107 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 6: that station in life, right and work, he's retired. Karen 1108 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 6: has put him in several situations now because they're married. 1109 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 6: It was hard to see that, You're right, that was 1110 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 6: not a natural conversation between the two of them. Karen 1111 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 6: was trying to say face and it made her look 1112 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 6: even worse. And what it showed me was that Karen 1113 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 6: don't even get it. She still don't get it at 1114 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 6: whatever point that scene was filmed that it had not 1115 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 6: clicked in Karen's mind that it is time to literally 1116 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 6: abort mission, be fully accountable, and get this shit over with. 1117 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,240 Speaker 6: She was still trying to be persuasive in that scene 1118 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 6: and add details to try to sway public opinion when 1119 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 6: it's impossible to do that. So that was sad to see. 1120 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 6: I want Karen to go to jail and come home. 1121 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 6: I'm ready for her to get that ship over with. 1122 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 6: Come out of jail, get on the Zimpie, be a 1123 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 6: fashion week, you know what I'm saying, at front row 1124 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 6: with her daughter and have that comeback arc and when 1125 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 6: she come out of jail, Karen can go into her bag. 1126 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 5: But I guess. 1127 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 2: Stewart, did you know what I mean? 1128 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 5: Like a woman? 1129 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Get with that stylist that 1130 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 6: was working with fantaso. 1131 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 5: And that that's doing. Get with him, get. 1132 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 6: Your ass to fashion Week in Paris, in New York 1133 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 6: and Milan, get on the scene, Karen, and just you know, 1134 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 6: try to have a comeback era of sobriety. You know 1135 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 6: what I'm mean saying looking good and just being present 1136 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 6: because we'll be happy to have you back. We'll be 1137 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 6: happy to see you once you take real accountability for 1138 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 6: this and just get it the fuck over with. But 1139 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 6: that lion shit her and Ray did in that video 1140 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,879 Speaker 6: did not help at all. 1141 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 5: Great. 1142 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 4: I think those are all fantastic. I agree with a 1143 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 4: lot everything you said. 1144 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 3: I will say this, you know, I do think, okay, 1145 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 3: how much of that was them with the self rehearsal, 1146 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 3: pre planned stuff, or how much it was a negotiation 1147 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 3: with producers I'll do this scene, but or maybe they 1148 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 3: had talking points, because you do sometimes get points that 1149 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: you do need to hit when you go into a scene. 1150 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: Let's just keep it, okay, that is the thing now, 1151 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,879 Speaker 3: the producer, I'm telling you what to say, but there's 1152 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 3: certain things like benchmarks you do have to hit. I 1153 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 3: don't know if that was I just wish. I will 1154 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 3: say this, Karen, you know, I try to like always 1155 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 3: have a little bit of empathy with people like that 1156 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 3: have gone through a lot. But at this point, on 1157 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 3: your fourth guy, you put a lot of people's lives 1158 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 3: at risk, and you have gotten a lot of privilege 1159 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 3: and grace, you really have, and you could have killed 1160 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 3: people even one minute of driving drunk like that the 1161 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:05,479 Speaker 3: way she was sloppy drunk, sloppy? 1162 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 4: Have I am I perfect? 1163 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 3: Have I ever taken a chance on a ride home 1164 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 3: where I'm like not sure? 1165 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 5: Yes? 1166 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 4: And I'll never do it again. I will not do 1167 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 4: it again. 1168 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 3: I seen horrific carr because we love, like in our 1169 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 3: friends circle, we lost someone recently that tried it. 1170 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 4: I'll never do it. 1171 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 1172 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't someone I was in my friend's circle, like 1173 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 3: a friend of a friend, and I just saw a 1174 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 3: young life that did not have to take that risk. 1175 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 3: And Karen, you're on your fourth one. You were given passive. 1176 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 4: If I was. 1177 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 3: Granted so many passes, I'd feel like, all right, let 1178 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 3: me not tempt fake. 1179 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 4: But I think what it does, it does the opposite. 1180 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 3: It makes you feel invincible, and having no accountability does 1181 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 3: create a monster. That's kind of what we've been talking about. 1182 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 3: It does create monsters that seemed definitely did feel fake, 1183 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 3: and I just wish. I think a lot of people 1184 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 3: that are on television it's hard for them to. 1185 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 4: Really let go. You're on reality, but are you really 1186 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 4: letting go? 1187 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 3: And Carlos, you know, with certain people it's been like 1188 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 3: pulling teeth right to get them to just forget the 1189 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 3: cameras there, really be real and not try to self produce. 1190 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 3: Self producing has made some reality shows whack, like get there, Talk, breakless, 1191 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 3: be ugly, don't have your perfect makeup, don't have the 1192 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 3: three sets of lashes, ugly cry. 1193 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 4: I fucked up. I fucked up. I'm taking out it all. 1194 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 4: I'm taking this. I'm taking that for whatever your reasons are. 1195 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 3: I'm not saying whenever your drug of choices and just 1196 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 3: leave it on the table. Have you not seen all 1197 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 3: the examples of other people who have fucked up? So 1198 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 3: people welcome Mike Tyson back in after raping a black 1199 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,919 Speaker 3: girl more than you know what I mean, Like there 1200 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 3: is redemption, people still cap but r. 1201 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 4: Kelly, there are people who still like Diddy. 1202 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 3: So I'm saying the public can be forgiving. It's all 1203 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 3: in the way you handle it. If you come to 1204 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 3: us dirt like ugly cry and keep it a buck 1205 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 3: and don't try to give us some fake ass scene. 1206 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 4: People are gonna be. 1207 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: Quicker to get to that point of forgiving you and saying, 1208 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 3: all right, man, layoff, let's forgive because black people are 1209 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 3: very forgiving people. 1210 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 4: And give her another chance. 1211 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 3: But you may get a little harder when you kind 1212 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 3: of think we're stupid, you know. 1213 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 4: And I do feel bad at the hall, but he 1214 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 4: looks so damn stressed out. 1215 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he just wanted to say. 1216 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 6: All them scenes when he was filming in the backyard 1217 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 6: on that patio furniture and them chase lounges and shit, 1218 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 6: he was happier when you saw him relaxing and resting, 1219 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. He was a happier man. So, 1220 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 6: you know, Ray just want to take it easy. He's 1221 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 6: in that stage. 1222 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 3: Car high and he cannot afford it, like his the 1223 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 3: eyes look tired. His eyes look tired, and he should be. 1224 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 3: That's a lot of drama for a young person. 1225 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 4: Imagine that. 1226 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 3: It's hard for It's hard for a young person in 1227 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 3: those scenarios. 1228 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 5: Imagine being imagine poor Ray. You know what I'm saying. 1229 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 5: Karen was drunk. 1230 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 6: Can you imagine Karen Hue are coming home drunk and 1231 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 6: you eighty some years old. Can you imagine what that's like. 1232 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 6: That's got to be a lot to deal with, you 1233 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Ray, that house was quiet. You 1234 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 6: know she was pulling up at twelve thirty, one thirty 1235 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning after the bar clos. 1236 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 5: Ray was good and sleep and when. 1237 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 4: Women want she probably was like, I give me the 1238 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 4: dirty Ray. 1239 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 5: So we got to roll over and put your glasses 1240 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 5: on and shouldn't get up. You know what I'm saying. 1241 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 5: It's just an interruption overall. 1242 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: So well, no, so I'll say this much. I'll say 1243 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: this much. This was a great reunion. I I love 1244 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: seeing the ladies have fun. I thought this was Gizelle's 1245 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 1: best reunion. 1246 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 2: She was on fire. She looked great. 1247 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 5: She she she she was amazing. 1248 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Doctor Wendy was fantastic. 1249 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 6: This were you, Dustin? She ran that stage all three 1250 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 6: parts Wendy. 1251 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: She Claudia, I'm gonna introduce you to Wendy because Johny 1252 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: could do something together. 1253 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 3: I have so much respect for her, love how she 1254 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,080 Speaker 3: used her platform and speak out politically. 1255 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 4: You know, I'm a political nerd. I love that about Yeah, 1256 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 4: chef is to you. I love a smart girl, Yes. 1257 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 6: Doctor educated, beautiful, got the family has all the elements 1258 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:07,919 Speaker 6: and yeah. 1259 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Now, so I want to give a shout out to 1260 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: I think. I think, like all Star Games, we get 1261 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: the MVP. I think Giselle and Doctor Wendy deserve the 1262 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: MV the MVP award this reunion. They were spectacular the 1263 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: moment the show started, all the way back from part one. 1264 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 2: So shout out to them. Dustin A. Claudia. This has 1265 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 2: been amazing and fun so much. 1266 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 3: We need to hang out more. 1267 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm in Dallas, I'm back home. I'll be here until 1268 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 4: I'm on I'm on tour with. 1269 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 3: The play Games Women Play. It's a Jakarrie's Johnson play. 1270 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 3: So we're going to be in Houston the thirteenth through 1271 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 3: the sixth, fourteenth through the sixteenth, so we have a 1272 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 3: bunch of cities. 1273 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: We're doing People Missing People Miss You on YouTube. 1274 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 3: I know, I mean, I listen. I love I loved 1275 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 3: Cocktail of the Queens. I love doing TJS. 1276 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 4: Every single place I go, people still ask. 1277 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 3: Me like they're like, you know, in these political times, 1278 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 3: like we need a place where we can like have 1279 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 3: fun and get informed and you know, accidentally informed. We're 1280 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 3: trying to build that up, the numbers on. You know, 1281 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 3: we're building that right now. But I miss it too. 1282 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 3: I want to do more of this. I do love 1283 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: talking with the folks and you know. 1284 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Claudia, The Real House Bass of Atlanta is 1285 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: premiering March night. Am I okay to invite you back 1286 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: to recap one. 1287 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 2: Episode with me and Dustin? 1288 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 4: Of course? 1289 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 3: Okay, good, I'm gonna start watching more. I know people 1290 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 3: like she don't even watched. I need to get back 1291 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 3: on Potomacca. Watching today, I was like, I'm gonna go 1292 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 3: back and really get into it because it is. But 1293 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 3: I honestly, I have been so stuck in politics with 1294 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 3: this election. 1295 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, very very hands on. So yeah, all I've been 1296 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 4: consuming for like two years, you know. 1297 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah anytime. Okay, No, we we we all miss 1298 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: you and Dustin. I love you so Claudia and usin Laudia. 1299 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Ladies first at the world now where they can find you, 1300 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 1: follow you and support you. 1301 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 2: Beauty at Claudia. 1302 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 4: Join on Instagram. 1303 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 5: I'm always on there. 1304 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm always getting a shadow band from my anti Trump 1305 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 3: views whatever you Can't Silence Me and the stage play 1306 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,439 Speaker 3: Games Women Play, and also every Wednesday with Erica Cobb, 1307 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 3: Accidents Ly Informed on YouTube, Spotify and where we get 1308 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 3: your podcasts and a bunch of movies coming out. So yeah, 1309 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 3: hollo me. I miss all you people, all y'all supporters. 1310 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 4: I love y'all. Thank you so much for the love. 1311 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 5: That's then. 1312 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 6: Yes, so shout out to everybody who supported my show. 1313 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 5: As you know, was so blessed. 1314 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 6: I sold out City Winery, New York from my very 1315 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 6: first stand up comedy show, yes on March seventeenth, and 1316 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 6: the God is good. They offered me a second show 1317 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 6: because there were so many people on the wait list. 1318 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 6: It was just I'm overwhelmed with the tremendous support I got. 1319 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 6: So there's a second show available. You can find a 1320 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 6: link to the show in my bio. It's on March seventeenth, 1321 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 6: Saint Patrick's Day here in New York City at City Winery. 1322 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 6: So I'm really excited my very first stand up show. 1323 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 6: It's on Saint Patrick's Day and the show is called 1324 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 6: FSPD with stands for Fuck Saint Patrick's Day. And I 1325 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,080 Speaker 6: can't wait to tell you why I felt like that. 1326 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 6: So if you want to come, come on down Mark seventeenth. 1327 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 6: The ticket link is in my bio at look at 1328 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,640 Speaker 6: dustin all the way across. 1329 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,160 Speaker 2: So dust the two shows at Saint Donco. 1330 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 6: You have a two show show. So first show, same night, yup, Carlos. 1331 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 6: You know if I'm gonna do it, We're gonna do it. 1332 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,479 Speaker 6: So first show doors at six pm, showtime at seven 1333 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 6: thirty pm. The second show, and then the meet and 1334 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 6: greet is immediately after that. Second show doors at nine thirty, 1335 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 6: showtime ten pm. And there is a VIP meet and 1336 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 6: greet option available for that as well. 1337 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 5: So come fuck with me. 1338 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,959 Speaker 6: I'm gonna make y'all laugh on March seventeenth at City 1339 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 6: Winery here in New York City. Thank you to everybody 1340 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,439 Speaker 6: that purchased tickets and I'll see all them nothing. 1341 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 3: You're so talented and so smart, and you're smart, talented 1342 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 3: and sexy and everybody wants to have sex with you, 1343 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 3: so like. 1344 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 5: Thank you. I love having sex. 1345 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 6: So that man, you just made me feel so that 1346 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 6: that's how you affirm your friends, right there. 1347 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 5: You know sex is important to me. Thank you, I 1348 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,959 Speaker 5: got you, I got you back. That's right. 1349 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 3: Here's the bomb. Everything he does. He never hears them 1350 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,919 Speaker 3: everything he does. So I don't know about section because 1351 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 3: I never had sex with him, but he is, you 1352 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 3: know obviously. 1353 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure he's good at that as well. 1354 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 4: So support him. 1355 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, Frand, I love you so Claudia. 1356 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Dustin, thank you so much. I'll see you next week. 1357 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 1: Dustin, Claudia, I'll call you afterwards. 1358 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 3: You. 1359 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. 1360 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 1: New episodes dropped on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow, 1361 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: and subscribe to Reality with the King. 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