WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22: Full Minicamp Recap, Training Camp, Roster Building 

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex Barth Blazar and Lazarre. Hello, everybody nailed it.

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<v Speaker 1>He joined us always by our bard. Here is Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex bars. I would put David Andrews in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of guys that I just enjoyed covering the most.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put David Andrews on my personal nout rushmore

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<v Speaker 1>up there with Devin mccordy, with Matthew Slater and those Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Matt Russ four, but I think that those

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<v Speaker 1>three kind of stand alone for me as just perfect Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>like just perfect on and off the field.

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<v Speaker 2>All throw in there too. And this was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first guys we ever talked to was Dante Hidawer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he definitely knew how much.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know what we were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like, did you get one question something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. He's like, you can talk to me once

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<v Speaker 2>a week or something. Yeah, it was like it was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>He was always really good to us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of funny. Was that's a good you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>giving us a little rookie moment. Yeah, he would do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was he was kidding, but he's also not kidding, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It had to be good, and it had to be good,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember one time I tried to ask him another

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<v Speaker 1>question a couple of days later, and he remembered. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>You've already asked me your question this week. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>answering it. He was kidding, But yeah, he's he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>he was great. Yeah, he's definitely on that list as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, everybody, Hello, Evan Lazar, Alex Barth, Patriots Catch

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two with you for the next couple of hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Good story time there, good good recollection of our our

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<v Speaker 1>young days on the beat. More that come in the

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<v Speaker 1>next five weeks, I'll tell you, Oh yeah, yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good segue though, Alex, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got Alex Barth here, Alex behind the glass, Alex is

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<v Speaker 1>with me, and I think it's a good segue into

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to talk about off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the show here with coming off camp two days out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean camp. We were both there for the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days of practice, and we early on in

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<v Speaker 1>our time, and I'll just speak for myself, I early

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<v Speaker 1>on in my time would come out in the spring

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<v Speaker 1>and just overrate everything that I saw this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this guy's gonna be a star. That guy's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you know, be he's gonna stink. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we always make fun of Maurice Harris, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Maurice Harris of it all. We're making fun

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<v Speaker 1>of us, yes, for what we thought about. Good point,

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<v Speaker 1>good way to put that. So I get that there

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<v Speaker 1>there's that element of this whole time of year as always.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing that, you know, just along those lines,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really want to drink the kool aid with

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<v Speaker 1>this team right now because I am excited. I am

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic about what they put together.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They they had a really good off season. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good off season, a good draft, good free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a good spring. I thought the practices were

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<v Speaker 1>as energetic and just people buying in and there was

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<v Speaker 1>energy and there was buying and there was competitiveness even

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<v Speaker 1>during the team drills, you know towards the uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>big portions of practice there during the team drills where

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<v Speaker 1>you have offense defense on the field and everybody's off

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<v Speaker 1>to the side that isn't on the that isn't playing

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's watching like there was a great energy and

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth to what they were doing. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that tone is obviously set by the head coach and

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<v Speaker 1>his energy and his enthusiasm, which is infectious. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have the glass of kool Aid is like on the

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<v Speaker 1>table right like I poured it. It's on the table,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right there. I'm like about to pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>and drink it. What's your favorite kol Aid? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a favorite one? Oh? Man, I just the lemonade. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say lemonade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had a long day, but that used to

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<v Speaker 2>be a summer staple. Maybe I'll bring that back to

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<v Speaker 2>This is the analogy I came up. So did you

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<v Speaker 2>have like how did you have it? Because I used

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<v Speaker 2>to get or my mom used to get like the powder.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to have the pouches, right, isn't that where

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<v Speaker 2>their power? Just know?

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<v Speaker 1>We had like it was like a like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a powder, like a Gatorade powder, but kool Aid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in like you know, plastic kind of

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah right right See I didn't I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>that one though, because I always felt like I got

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<v Speaker 1>the ratio wrong, right, Like you had to nail the

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<v Speaker 1>water the powder ratio. Otherwise it is either too wired

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<v Speaker 1>down or it was too sugary.

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<v Speaker 3>It was our first science experiment.

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<v Speaker 1>Put sugar in, which probably wasn't the healthiest thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You would put sugar in the kool aid.

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<v Speaker 2>If I didn't get that already, I admitted it wasn't healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Years old, I see what like this this is country

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<v Speaker 2>time for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do that. I used to have that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with gatoring because I think it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little bit cheaper than buying the body. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember that. Oh yeah, that I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that was great about now we're totally

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<v Speaker 1>on a tangent side summer. The other thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>great about the Gatorade Power is that I went to

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<v Speaker 1>overnight camp and you could keep the gatorade powder. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>need a fridge for the gatorad power, right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>could keep the Gatorade power powder in your bunk and

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<v Speaker 1>then you would take like a cup of it with

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<v Speaker 1>you to the dining hall and then you'd you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could put water in it and now you have gatorade.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I do remember, okay, I do remember that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that, like we were hat in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do. I do remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So back on football. I want to drink the

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<v Speaker 1>kool aid. I the class is poured. It's there, it's

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me. I see it. I see Rabel's vision.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what he's brought to the table. I've honestly

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed watching Josh McDaniel's work again too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>headset on play sheet. He just seems in his element,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas maybe as a head coach it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different for him. But this seems to be his calling,

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<v Speaker 1>is to be an offensive coordinator and and be a

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<v Speaker 1>good one at that. We can't, you know, divulge too

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<v Speaker 1>much about the plays that they were actually running, but

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive were the offensive install in particular, I'm excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of wrinkles in there that

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that they were going to do, which

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<v Speaker 1>we can get into in a little bit. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to drink the kool aid now. For the first

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<v Speaker 1>time though, and probably my entire Patriots fandom, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hardened by this team a little bit right, everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>what they've been post Brady. You know, they have one

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<v Speaker 1>playoff appearance in five years. They're thirty three and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one with one winning season since Tom Brady walked out

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<v Speaker 1>the door. So as much as I want to drink it,

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<v Speaker 1>my guard's up, Like my guard is legitimately up about everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, if I just trust my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and what I'm seeing you, Drake May made progressive

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<v Speaker 1>strides throughout the entire spring where he just got better

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<v Speaker 1>and better with every practice and you could see the

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<v Speaker 1>comfort level improving. And he even said, which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome, is exactly what you want to hear your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback say, I don't want to leave. He literally said

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to leave because they're making so much

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<v Speaker 1>momentum here in the spring. So as much as my

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<v Speaker 1>guard is up, my spring guard is up because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to, you know, overrate practices and shorts and

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt, and we obviously know what this team

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<v Speaker 1>has been the last couple of years, So my guard

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<v Speaker 1>is up because of that. But this is as optimistic

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<v Speaker 1>as I've been. Specifically, I would say about the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball and quite some time with this team,

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<v Speaker 1>because I really feel like by the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>spring you were starting to see some real great signs

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<v Speaker 1>about what this offense can be, especially from Drake May

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh McDaniels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, i'd say for me, I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's like being hardened by the team as much as

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I don't want to overcorrect and know you

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<v Speaker 2>take so much from the spring and what does it

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<v Speaker 2>amount to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to be sit here and be that guy like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>actually none of it matters, yeah, right, because there are

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<v Speaker 2>bits and pieces that matter you pick through it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that. Like, my level of optimism is about

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<v Speaker 2>the same. I like the moves they made this offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I whether it be coaching, whether it be played like

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<v Speaker 2>I think they did. I think I gave him like

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<v Speaker 2>a beat, right, I think they did just about everything

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<v Speaker 2>they could do. The veteran wide receiver market was the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I was like, maybe they could have done,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, overall, really solid, especially from where they worked

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<v Speaker 2>where they are now is a significant significant improvement. So

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<v Speaker 2>I but for me, it's just like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much I saw it, Like I guess the coaching

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<v Speaker 2>stuff was more validating the player stuff. They're not in pads,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not really sure. But that's not to say I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I just I felt good about it going in.

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<v Speaker 2>So it didn't The spring didn't change a ton for me,

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<v Speaker 2>other than maybe, like like you said, seeing how Vrabel

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<v Speaker 2>was about his business, seeing Josh McDaniel's work again, those

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<v Speaker 2>were probably the biggest takeaways for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I agree, and I think the hardest part about

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<v Speaker 1>this job this time of year is determining what's real

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<v Speaker 1>and what's This is the spring and there's no pads

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no contact, and we're in shorts and T shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the biggest things that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>really important this time a year is procedural stuff. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they getting in and out of the huddle? Are they

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<v Speaker 1>lining up correctly? Are there a flurry of pre snap

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<v Speaker 1>penalties or errors, substitution errors, penalties, things like that. Are

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<v Speaker 1>guys jumping off sides all the time? There was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that yesterday. I thought it got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit loose in practice yesterday. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>with out of the five practices that we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring, it was really clean, like there weren't guys

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<v Speaker 1>lining up incorrectly. And then it's well, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy went in motion when he shouldn't have, or this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is supposed to be in this alignment and he's

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<v Speaker 1>in that alignment. Now we got to re huddle. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we got to recall the play in the huddle, and

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<v Speaker 1>like all this kind of stuff. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds elementary and like it's these are professional football players,

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<v Speaker 1>they should already know how to do these things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but based off the last couple of years of what

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<v Speaker 1>we've watched, I'm telling you it's not that simple. There

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<v Speaker 1>are instances, especially in the last two camps, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a ton of that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on and to not see any of that just

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to get ahead of where they were this

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<v Speaker 1>time last year. And it really hit me yesterday when

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<v Speaker 1>we saw them doing some of their red zone install

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that during practice how far ahead they

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<v Speaker 1>are relative to years past. And I mean, really the

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<v Speaker 1>last two years. They are already doing things now that

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<v Speaker 1>is deep, deep, deep into the install that I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they ever really got to, especially this time

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<v Speaker 1>of year. Over the last couple of years, and that

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<v Speaker 1>just allows you to continue to build, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>come back for training camp and it's more putting in

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<v Speaker 1>some of the specialized plays or some of the creative

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<v Speaker 1>plays and some of the different things, and then just

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<v Speaker 1>drilling the base stuff because you already have the base

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<v Speaker 1>stuff installed. So that part of it, the cleanliness, the

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<v Speaker 1>procedural stuff. How far along it appears that they are

0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.800
<v Speaker 1>offensively in particular, I think defensively defense is kind of

0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.200
<v Speaker 1>defense this time of year, and you're not really doing

0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.839
<v Speaker 1>too much, But how far along they are? Red zone,

0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.280
<v Speaker 1>third down, like they've did all that over the last

0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of days, and they're already through all of that

0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:14.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. So now that it's all about tweaks

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<v Speaker 1>and adjustments and adding and moving forward and continuing that momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the biggest thing that I take away from

0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:26.360
<v Speaker 1>this time of year, not necessarily who flashed and who

0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't and that sort of thing. I try not to

0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.840
<v Speaker 1>put too much stock into that stuff anymore. But is

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<v Speaker 1>it a clean operation? Is it a professional operation? Does

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<v Speaker 1>it look like it should? Do the players look like

0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.800
<v Speaker 1>they should? Do people know where they're going? Are they

0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.079
<v Speaker 1>lined up correctly? Are they getting in and out of

0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the huddle on time? There was a time yesterday where

0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.880
<v Speaker 1>they were a little slow getting out of the huddle

0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.959
<v Speaker 1>and Vrabel is like yelling at like, let's go right.

0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So those attention to detail things are definitely back with

0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.880
<v Speaker 1>this football team, which is really encouraging. That's what you

0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:58.719
<v Speaker 1>want this time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, people would ask me, well, does

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<v Speaker 2>it feel different than last year? And it you know,

0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of saying, yeah, yeah, I mean yes

0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and no, it's just so early, how do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>But I do remember one of the first things last

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<v Speaker 2>year that was a little head scratching was like they

0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't we've covered enough camps that we kind of know

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<v Speaker 2>when you sort of take the jump to the next

0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.000
<v Speaker 2>step and in any various number of ways. And it

0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.040
<v Speaker 2>felt like at times they were maybe a little behind

0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.440
<v Speaker 2>schedule with the install Now that was more in the

0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.360
<v Speaker 2>summer than the spring. But to see them get into

0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.440
<v Speaker 2>red zone and get into third down right away in

0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.520
<v Speaker 2>mini campus like okay, here we go, like they're taking

0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.360
<v Speaker 2>that next step. So the operation from that macro standpoint

0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and then to zoom in a little bit more like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, getting in out of the huddle, the substitution stuff,

0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.360
<v Speaker 2>things like that. I think there were a few penalties

0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.400
<v Speaker 2>yesterday that maybe went uncalled, but overall, penalty wise of

0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.720
<v Speaker 2>very clean spring like that kind of stuff is how

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<v Speaker 2>you tell that they're making progress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so all positive things, good things. Now I'll do

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a compliment Sandwich here. All that

0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.200
<v Speaker 1>was really positive for the first thirteen minutes of the show,

0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and I meant to every word. I think, you know,

0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.760
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the drink is the kool aid is poured,

0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it's right in front of me. I just need to

0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.280
<v Speaker 1>see I need to see some padded practices before I'm

0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.320
<v Speaker 1>starting to drink it, right, But it's right there in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The one to make this a compliment, Sandwich. The criticisms

0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.520
<v Speaker 1>are just sort of the small sea concerns, I guess

0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is the better way to put it. That I still have.

0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm still focused mostly on offense right now. One,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what this offensive line is going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like. I still am not one hundred percent sure

0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that their line is going to be significantly improved, mainly

0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.000
<v Speaker 1>because we haven't seen it in pads, so like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big reason and I think a lot of this

0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.520
<v Speaker 1>time of year or two when you're not in pads,

0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's hard to pass block without pads on, you

0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.120
<v Speaker 1>really can't hit anybody. You're in a basketball stands and

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to kind of stay in front of guys.

0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.240
<v Speaker 1>It's clearly advance defense in that respect with the pass rush,

0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's basically third down every play because you know

0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.679
<v Speaker 1>they're running. You're not running the ball, so there's a

0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of advantages. But just looking at it on paper,

0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you have what I believe is probably the biggest hole

0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.200
<v Speaker 1>on in this you know, all twenty two right now,

0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and the starting lineup on both sides of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>at left guard. I have no idea what they're gonna

0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.120
<v Speaker 1>do at left guard. Now. They have bodies to throw

0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.480
<v Speaker 1>at it. It's not that they don't have options. I

0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.200
<v Speaker 1>just don't know if any of them are good options.

0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, Cole Strange probably right now is the leader

0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.720
<v Speaker 1>in the clubhouse. He's got the inside track if he doesn't,

0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.600
<v Speaker 1>if he stays healthy and all that momentum continues, I

0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.760
<v Speaker 1>do think he's probably gonna hold off everybody and keep

0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that job going into the season. But left guard is

0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a giant unknown right now at center, we probably know

0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.280
<v Speaker 1>what Brad Burry is gonna you're hoping he's gonna just

0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:57.720
<v Speaker 1>be a serviceable starting center. I don't think anybody's thinking

0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.080
<v Speaker 1>that he's going to be anything more than that. So

0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.720
<v Speaker 1>those are two spots on your interior. Morgan mos is

0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.760
<v Speaker 1>thirty four years old, just is what it is. Will

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell's a rookie, is what it is. He's a highly

0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.360
<v Speaker 1>drafted rookie, and you hope that that means that he's seamless,

0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:13.760
<v Speaker 1>but he's a rookie at the end of the day.

0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And then there's Big Mike, who is Big Mic, right,

0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.240
<v Speaker 1>So you put all this together, and that's my biggest

0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>concern with this team right now. We know what it

0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.360
<v Speaker 1>looks like when the offensive line is so bad that

0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you just can't really function offensively. I don't know if

0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to that point. Hopefully we don't.

0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:33.880
<v Speaker 1>But right now, if I had to say, what's my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest concern on this team, it's still the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's still a lot of unknowns there. And look, I

0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.120
<v Speaker 2>think I was talking to somebody about this. Guess say,

0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.040
<v Speaker 2>like I think they're in a much better spot on

0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.840
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line than they were last year. I think

0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they're significantly improved, but I still think that there are

0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:51.200
<v Speaker 2>concerns with that group.

0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Both of those can be true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more just kind of an indictment on where they

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<v Speaker 2>were last year with it. But they have like this

0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.920
<v Speaker 2>time last year, you just did it left guard right,

0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.520
<v Speaker 2>We don't know, And I think even to say Cole

0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Strange is the favorite, like he was out there good

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<v Speaker 2>amount in the spring, but he was kind of after

0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.120
<v Speaker 2>by the fault, they weren't really you know, I city

0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.840
<v Speaker 2>so I was playing on the right side because Mike

0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.200
<v Speaker 2>when wine was limited and west Weis, who's I was

0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:15.480
<v Speaker 2>since retired, wasn't out there.

0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Tyres Robinson missed a couple of.

0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Practice at this moment, but he wasn't out there, so

0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.800
<v Speaker 2>we don't know would have been out there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Lane Robinson's the one guy that just kind of seems

0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like clearly he isn't getting the work. But you know,

0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.960
<v Speaker 2>last year we were doing that at both tackle spots, right,

0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.600
<v Speaker 2>who are both tackles.

0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>And you at least know going in Like nobody's question,

0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.480
<v Speaker 2>where's Morgan Moses added thirty four years old.

0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:39.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a fair question.

0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.040
<v Speaker 2>But we know he's proven he can be in his

0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.600
<v Speaker 2>starting caliber right tackle in the NFL. Will Campbell, Yeah,

0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.440
<v Speaker 2>there's it's based on potential, but he was the fourth

0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:48.480
<v Speaker 2>overall pick for a reason.

0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.000
<v Speaker 1>He's a very technically skilled guy.

0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Like you're looking at upside there with Brad Berry, I

0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.200
<v Speaker 2>think I still think that's a battle with him at

0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Jared Wilson. It was limited the spring, so we didn't

0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 2>get to see much of him, But like you feel

0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:00.520
<v Speaker 2>like you're gonna.

0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Be able to get a starter there, there is.

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.919
<v Speaker 2>There is much more of a foundation from where they

0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 2>were last year. That doesn't mean it's gonna be great,

0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:08.440
<v Speaker 2>but I just think you're gonna be able to build

0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.840
<v Speaker 2>more continuity and in that continuity, even if it's not

0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the best group. What was it How many games was

0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:15.800
<v Speaker 2>it last year before they used the same offensive line

0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.399
<v Speaker 2>back to back games? It was deep into the season

0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.159
<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, injuries or injuries, but just in

0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.200
<v Speaker 2>terms of swapping guys in and out, that shouldn't be

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a problem last year, And you can raise the level

0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of the group, even if individually you know you don't

0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 2>have five great players across. If you get guys that

0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.679
<v Speaker 2>are consistently out there working together, starting in camp and

0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 2>going through the season, that can make the group better.

0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I know Kegan Steve Stifle from Steve wil firmness and

0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>has it, so I'll find the oh this stat yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was charting it every week last year. It's

0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.240
<v Speaker 1>a good point that with continuity and hopefully the same

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.200
<v Speaker 1>set of five guys and see it through the same

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.640
<v Speaker 1>set of eyes and all that that good stuff, that

0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:01.119
<v Speaker 1>the talent level could be better than. Was that saying

0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that the whole could be better than the some of

0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the park, better than the sum of their part. Yeah,

0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.280
<v Speaker 1>So that there's that potential. I always look at it

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>from a defensive perspective though, and when you talk about

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line, you're always looking for like where's the

0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.280
<v Speaker 1>weak link that we can attack? And even teams that

0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>have great offensive lines, it's always about almost like who's

0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 1>your weakest link and how bad is that guy? Right?

0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Because if it's a if that player is below replacement

0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:33.159
<v Speaker 1>level and you're going out there Week one against the

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas Raiders and they have Max Crosby, all the

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Raiders are gonna do is line up Max Crosby over

0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.359
<v Speaker 1>your weakest link and they're just gonna have him rush

0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:45.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty times over your weakest link on the offensive line,

0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna expose that. So the good news is

0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.639
<v Speaker 1>for the offensive line, they have bodies. I'm not concerned about.

0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.440
<v Speaker 1>They just don't have anybody to play here.

0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So Week ten was Week ten was the first time

0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:58.840
<v Speaker 2>they used to repeat line last year, but it was

0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.120
<v Speaker 2>eight to ten. They didn't use it back to back weeks.

0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Week ten and eleven was the first time they used

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the same offensive line and back to back weeks. Yeah,

0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.639
<v Speaker 2>that sounds the Darian Lowe, Michael Jordan, Ben Brown, Mike

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 2>oh and Winnho Demntro Jacobs. Yeah, we're better. They're beyond that, honestly.

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.680
<v Speaker 2>How many Well, Michael Jordan's obviously not here anymore. Yeah,

0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 2>there's a real chance only one of those five guys

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.360
<v Speaker 2>is on the team this year. Michael went who's gonna

0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.800
<v Speaker 2>make team obviously, right, Ben Brown I think is right

0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.920
<v Speaker 2>on the bubble. Jacob's and low like they they brought

0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:28.719
<v Speaker 2>in backup tackles to compete too.

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.640
<v Speaker 1>So there's a chance that one of those five guys

0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is on the team this year. They're in much better

0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.480
<v Speaker 1>shape than that. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Now.

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.119
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is we've talked about in the past.

0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Speaker 1>You can cover up one hole on the offensive line

0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>if you have one week link. There's ways to cover

0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.199
<v Speaker 1>it up. It's honestly probably easier to do it on

0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the interior than it is at tackle. Yes, because you

0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 1>can use the center. You know that you can put

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>him in the slide side and not the man's side,

0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and that way there they have somebody coming over, you know.

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>So usually with protections you have three man slide side

0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and then the backside is man to man. So those

0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>two guys on the backside are man to man. So

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>if you have to put Morgan, Moses and Mike Onwenu

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.920
<v Speaker 1>one on one for a little while and then kind

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of have the left side be the slide side, now

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you can't be that predictable. You have to change it

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.160
<v Speaker 1>up and the defense. The front also dictates like where

0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you're sliding and where you're man to mand and all

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But in general, if that's like

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the rule of thumb, then they can cover up for

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a left guard that isn't the best. They can cover

0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 1>up for a center, you know, Garrett Bradbury that has

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.040
<v Speaker 1>some limitations because of his size and his play strength

0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and things like that in the past game. So you

0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>can cover up stuff like that. It's doable. I just

0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.520
<v Speaker 1>it's another area of the team that I still think

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that they're They're maybe one year away from truly fixing it.

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 1>They made strides this offseason, but now there's other holes

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that have presented themselves and things like that. Andrews gets

0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.880
<v Speaker 1>cut and retires. You know, left guard hasn't really gone

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the way that they necessarily plan. Now. The two guys

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 1>at left guard, I want to mention before we move on,

0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Cayden Wallace, who saw some reps at left guard during

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Mini camp, which I don't think is a small thing.

0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's actually something we should focus on because

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>coming out of college at Penn State, there were a

0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.639
<v Speaker 1>group of people in the scouting community and in the

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.040
<v Speaker 1>media who felt like he was a guard in the

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>NFL and not a tackle. He was one of those

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 1>tackle to guard converts types of guys. So we see

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.440
<v Speaker 1>this a lot in college left and right tackles. They

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.119
<v Speaker 1>just don't have the foot speed, or they don't have

0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the length, or they don't have something to play tackle

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, so they move him inside the guard

0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and they're pretty good guard. So I do think Kidd

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and Wallace could be a pretty good guard. So maybe

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a left guard. And I'm still holding out hope.

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>We didn't see him much this spring. He's limited with something,

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 1>but I still believe that Jared Wilson could be heard

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.120
<v Speaker 1>from in this competition as well. Maybe he starts his

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.680
<v Speaker 1>career at left guard instead of center. So those two

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>guys are younger guys that maybe have a little bit

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.680
<v Speaker 1>more upside or unknown compared to Cole Strange, which I

0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>think we kind of know what he is at this point,

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.199
<v Speaker 1>So maybe those two could eventually push Cole Strange. I

0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 1>have no idea, you know, it's just a spring. No

0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.119
<v Speaker 1>clue what's going on with Leyden Robinson doesn't seem like

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>he's someone that's right now at least in the plan.

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And then Cities is still kicking around too. He's still

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.679
<v Speaker 1>around and could be in that Jack Connelly and there

0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>tim Jack Conley is a good one too, I mean

0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 1>because he can you know, maybe not as a starter ultimately,

0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.200
<v Speaker 1>but like he can play four positions. Yeah, and he's

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:37.560
<v Speaker 1>got tremendous size, and I think that value probably helps

0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>him push for a roster spot.

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 2>And then if he's doing that, you know, again that

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 2>left guard competition's wide open, maybe he kind of sneaks

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 2>in there.

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So the other thing on offense, you know, offensive line

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest small sea concern right now for me,

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>because if you give McDaniels a functional offensive line and

0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback, they have enough weapons that I feel

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>like he can mix it up and he can figure

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it out schematically. It gives you almost like a twenty

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty one vibe at that point, with maybe even a

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 1>better quarterback, so you might even be better than you

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>were in twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty one that the

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>skill positions were fine, but they weren't anything special. You know,

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>is Nelson agil or, Kendrick Bourne, Jacobe Myers, Henry Ormandre

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>still right. It wasn't like it. They were the seven Patriots,

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like they had some guys, but it wasn't great. So

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.639
<v Speaker 1>they were a good offense to you know, above average

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 1>offense that year. I don't see why they couldn't be

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 1>this year if they have the line play and the

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 1>quarterback play. The outside receiver spot still also feels like

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a small sea concern. They played

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of packages this week and in the spring

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 1>in general. It's a lot of Kishan Boodie, who I

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>like as a player. He's a fine player. But every

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>team is going to know they're gonna want to funnel

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball through the middle of the field. Pop Douglass

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>caught like a million passes over the last two days.

0:23:58.240 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Henry is going to be a big part of

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the Stefan Diggs when he's healthy, is going to be

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>a big part of the things. And all those guys

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>feature or you know, I would assume are going to

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>be in those McDaniels, you know, slot receiver, tight end

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>over the middle, like that kind of role. So what

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.359
<v Speaker 1>do they do They have anything on the outside to

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>at least make the defense respect it. Maybe that's Diggs,

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's Kyle Williams if he can emerge and that I.

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Think they want Kyle Williams as the X. There's also

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Mac Hollins, who we didn't I mean, he was out there.

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't in uniform. He's dealing with something who

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:30.920
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to see.

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably between you know, I almost wonder

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 2>if they want to move booty back to the Z

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 2>where he's the more natural fit and it's Mac Hollins

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and Kyle Williams for the X.

0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Kyle Williams maybe the catch a camp of

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>mini camp with the bomb on Monday, right, he catches

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 1>runs right through the middle of his own defense. Looked

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>like it was cover two. Linebacker is trying to carry

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>him up up the hole, the pole runner, and he

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>just ran right by the linebacker and caught about a

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 1>forty five forty four forty five yard bob from Josh Dobbs.

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Not press though, No, there wasn't where he's not contacted. Right,

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>yesterday we got into practice and he had a one

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>on one on the outside against Christian Gonzales and it,

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, second team All Pro did second team All

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Pro things. So I'm not saying like that's not to

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 1>be overly critical of Kyle Williams. He's a rookie third

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>round pick going up against a top five to six

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>corner in the NFL. He's probably gonna have some ups

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and downs against Christian Gonzales. But can Kyle Williams get

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>off press? Can he get off the line of scrimmage

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.959
<v Speaker 1>against physical press man coverage? At five ten one ninety.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>He's got a great release package, he's got great quicklins

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>off the line, But when guys get into his grill

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and get into his airspace, is he going to be

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 1>able to get off the line of scrimmage in you

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>know a good amount of time, right, you know, on time,

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 1>all those types of things. I think that's a question

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>mark with him. I feel like they're gonna always, like

0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 1>with McDaniels, and I want to get into some of

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the McDaniels stuff, They're always going to have that middle

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of the field option. I just feel like he's always

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>going to find a way to get slot receivers and

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>tight ends and running backs the ball. Are they going

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>to have enough on the outside? It would be the

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>other thing to me when we're talking about the ceiling

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>of this offense and how far they really could go.

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I like Keishawan Boodie, like I said, it still feels

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>like they're begging for more there though a little bit,

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, And maybe again maybe it's just the fact

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that Digs isn't in team drills, right, I think that's

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Yeah, So maybe that and mac collins,

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Like I think those are two guys that are going

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>to be involved that we didn't get to see how

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be using. Yeah, okay, so Kampleman sandwich.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Those are my small sea concerns on offense. The other

0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 1>positive I want to talk about on offense is just

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the things that we saw already from McDaniels

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and the different things that they're going to incorporate within

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>this offense. I'm mostly really excited about. I think there's

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything. Honestly from what I saw

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>out of this offense or some of the old McDaniel staples.

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I think for the most part, the quick game and

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the shotgun package in the way they call the offense

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>from the shotgun for the most part, is gonna be

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty much you're everyone's gonna kind of recognize it. You know,

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna understand what you're watching. There's maybe a little

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>bit of West Coast flavor going in there from under center.

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that's possible. Uh, And I still feel like

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.479
<v Speaker 1>there's a dimension that maybe we'll see what Drake may

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>as a runner, you know, those types of things. It's

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 1>it's really what I wanted them to do. For the

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>most part, I really thought that what he showed at

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>least in mini camp and granted, you know, these are

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>base plays and we have a long way to go,

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's encouraging. The other thing I wanted to point

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>out was there's a lot of stuff going on in

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the backfield, like with running backs and stuff. I think

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be it's gonna be a big running back here.

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>There's a chance that we're pony expressing, you know, going

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>back to the sm days, right, Like, there's a chance

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>that that's happening. Oh wait, that's not why they're called

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the pony express. Yeah, it is Craig James and Eric Dickerson.

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, but not because of the formation. It's because they're

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 2>the Mustangs. No, is that what the pony is? That

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 2>why that sets called pony? Yes, I didn't actually know that.

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I like, I like what I teach you something like that,

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel did I feel like that's normally the other

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>way around?

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I figured, Well, I figured that term existed before nineteen

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 2>eighty two.

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I'm pretty sure that's why they

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 1>call it pony pony package anyways. Interesting, So I think

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>we could see some of that, and you could see

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the complimentary skill sets because reminder Stevenson is that power back,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>bigger back, and then they have these speedbacks with Antonio

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Gibson and Trayvon Henderson especially that they compliment each other

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>really well and there's some different things they can do.

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>There's obviously a brock Lampy element to this as well,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>a full back element that I think is going to

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>be there too, and in this offense. So there's there

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>was a lot going on in the batfield, like they

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>have different formations, different looks, you know, different personnel groupings.

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It was it was interesting. I don't know what all

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, if all of it will right right, This

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>might be let's just throw as much as we see

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>what yeh, try see what we can do. Yeah, see

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>what works. But there was a lot of that going

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 1>on as well.

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:13.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, it's this is what we talked about when

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 2>they hired McDaniels, was it's going to be there's a

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>big variation. Seeing the Josh McDaniels offense doesn't really mean

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>anything because there are so many different iterations of it

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and he looks like he's really empty the back.

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's so that's my compliment, Sandwich. I

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about a bunch of other things from

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>uh mini camp as well, So keep it going here

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll take your calls and emails. See the emails.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I see the calls. We'll get to those in a

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>few minutes, I promise. But the other big talking pointer

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>storyline that we got to touch on coming out of

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>mini campus Stefon Diggs and seeing Steffan Diggs really for

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the first time. We saw him at that ot A

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>right last week. So we've seen three practices now Stefon Diggs,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just talking about the football. He didn't do

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>any team drills yet and he's still not cleared for

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>He did like some team walked through, not any fold.

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>So I like to see that because that tells me

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that they think it could be early, sooner rather than

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>later once we get the training camp. So they want

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to make sure he's on the same wavelength in terms

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of learning everything as everybody else. So that's a good side.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta tell you, even though his routes are against air,

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>when he was turning it on on some of those routes,

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I think Mark Daniels posted a video of him kind

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of opening it up in some routes against air type stuff,

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and he looks great. I mean his leg, the injured

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>leg is clearly smaller than the healthy legs. Still, he

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>still got to add some like muscle mass back to

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that leg. But the twitchiness and the explosiveness look like

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Stefan Diggs to me, like he looked really good moving

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>out there, especially relative to how close he He just

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>tores acl in October, and he looks miles ahead of

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>other guys that we've seen in this position. So he

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>said his goal was to be ready for week one.

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not ruling it out. I think there's a real

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>possibility that he's ready for week one based off of

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>what we've seen.

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Look, yeah, he's not one hundred percent yet, but he's

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>got what three months, right, yeah, to get there, and

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:08.479
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't seem very far away. So I yeah, he

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>looks like a guy that could play week one certainly.

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that was good. He talked yesterday for the

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>first time as well since for the in the spring,

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>since his introductory press conference goals to be ready week one.

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I thought the other thing that stood out besides all

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>the other stuff, was the fact that there's a lot

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>of overlap for him and from Brian Dable which I

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>think you probably could have guessed. But right that helps,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>It definitely helps. He said, there's some of the terminology

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>is slightly different, but for the most part the concepts

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>are the same. So they might call it something different

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>here than Brian Dable called it, but he's still running

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the same rout. It's still those same mechanics of the row.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Whether there's an adjustment or there's a sight adjuster, or

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be, it's all the same. So

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that's good. I think he'll pick it up quickly. Looked

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>good out there. That could be the missing ingredient. Maybe

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that would make me feel better, the whole outside receiver

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>thing that I was talking about earlier. So that's the fun.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Diggs the other there's one other thing on offense that

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring up. Oh yeah, there's some scuttle butt,

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>some talk about Pop Douglas and where does he fit

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>into this whole equation fits I'll tell you that he

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>could he get eftin Chisholmed and you know, could he

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>be a surprise cut candidate if you will, like all

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>those you know, talk radio things that we do. That's

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>not happening. I don't think that's happening. I think that

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that is we basically ruled that out this week in

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Now he is a jitterbug slot receiver in

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>non padded practices, so he should look great. This is

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>this is his time to shine like this is basically

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>glorified flag football. He should be a stud in these

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>types of practices. But to his credit, he was awesome

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>for two straight.

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Down And we've seen him, We've seen it translate when

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>the pads come on before, so it's not like we

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.239
<v Speaker 2>have nothing to go off of. He looked exactly at

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 2>home and the mcdan slot receiver role, all those slot routes,

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and one of the things that really impressed me watching

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 2>him run routes this week was how well he was

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>adjusting the route based off the coverage. And you know,

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>all those those routes on the inside have a bunch

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>of options on them, and you're.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Reading leverage, you're reading man zone. You know, too high,

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting here one high, he might be sitting someplace else.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You're breaking away from man. You're reading leverage. So if

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the defender is outside of you, you're breaking inside. If

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>he's inside, you're breaking outside. Like all that kind of stuff,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and he was doing all of it pretty seamlessly, and

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they were finding matchups for him. He's getting on linebackers

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. In the middle field. It looked

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like Edelman, Welker, Troy Brown, Dion Branch like. It looked

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>like all those types of guys doing it at a

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>really high level. He was open for two straight days

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much all the time, and that was really good

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to see. I pot Douglas is a lock on this team. Yes, right,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>he always was, but I'm not wrong to say that

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>there were people that were people sitting that those people

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>were wrong. Yeah, okay, I'm glad with his stat much that.

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>So those are my offens thing. Is there anything I missed?

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I tried to jot these all down and make sure

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>we got to everything. Josh Dobbs had a couple of

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>nice throws. Josh Dobbs can. Josh Dobbs is a classic

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>veteran backup. In Mini camp, like Brian Hoyer was the same.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, he's no like Training Camp Brian

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Hoyer was MVP one of the most fun things I've

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.959
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. Yeah, training Camp Brian Hoyer stands alone. But yeah,

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Dobbs definitely has some of that where he'll he'll go

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 2>out there and sling and he hit.

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>He had the deep throw to to Kyle Williams, yep,

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what it was.

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>He had one yesterday. It wasn't deep, but he'd fit

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:32.760
<v Speaker 2>the ball in like a really tight window.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That again, you're probably not testing, but he's testing it

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's practice and he knows his role and

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>looked fair. I thought, I thought, you know, he had

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>had a couple bad picks as well, but I thought,

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there's he's got more live than arm than maybe I

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>thought he. It's always the guys like Josh Dobbs who

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.919
<v Speaker 1>have a little bit of a time in the league

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of confidence and also just like

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't give an f Like if Josh Dobbs was

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a pick in this practice, does he care, No, he

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care. Like he cares, but like it's not like

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>no pressure on Josh Dobbs to avoid turnovers and things

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. So a lot of these veteran backup quarterbacks

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in these practice they just rip it. They just rip it.

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And all of them can throw like they're all NFL quarterbacks,

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>so they all have, you know, good arms, and they

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>can all put it there and all that kind of stuff,

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>especially when it's you know, glorified seven on seven and

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>there's really no live pass rush.

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he did make some good None of them

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>rip it like Brian hoyre No, he come out with

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the dark visor and just Brian Hoyer and I say,

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 2>practice squad, not practice squad.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Training camp. Brian Hoyer was me playing Matt. I say

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 1>this a little bit tongue in cheek, like training camp.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Brian Hoyer what like had some moments that were like

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Brady esque, right, Like obviously Brady was Brady, but like

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.399
<v Speaker 1>there were times where Brian Hoyer would make just as

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>good of a throw, like you were just like, wow,

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that was an absolute dime. Now Brady would make that

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>throw like ten times in a row, and that was

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>the difference. But like, yeah, Brian Hoyer is definitely all

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>training camp team. Josh Dobbs might be close. Josh Oobs.

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Guy has some moments. He can put the ball, He

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>can put the ball on guys. Yeah, he can absolutely good.

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Point oh really quickly. Also, before we move on to

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the defensive side, running back, running back's interesting Trayvon Henderson

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and Antonio Gibson feel redundant. Now there's still a role

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>for both those guys, right, that's not necessarily a bad

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>thing because they need to carry at least three. But

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I was playing around with the roster projection. I know

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you're playing around with the roster projection as well. Between Gibson, Henderson, Larison, Like,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>those three guys are probably the most likely. Obviously Henderson's

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 1>going to be on the team, but those three guys

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>behind Ramandre Stevenson, those four are really what we're talking

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>about at running back. Those three Gibson, Henderson, Larison kind

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of are very redundant, very you know, similar to each other.

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Do they have room for all three of those because

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 1>when I was doing the rows for projection, I wasn't

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>sure if they needed to carry four.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think it's a guarantee that they

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 2>keep all of them, but I certainly think they have room.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Especially you know, if you keep a guy like Marcus

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Bryant or Jack Conley or King Wallas can play some

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>guard like that saves you an offensive lineman.

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 1>How many safeties are they really gonna keep? Maybe we

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't really get to tight ends.

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll use this as an excuse to talk about tight ends,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 2>they may only keep two tight ends right away. Yeah,

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>because nobody from that third tight end group emerged this spring.

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>And look, there's still ways to go, but just just

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>looking at it, if you know, between CJ.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>DePree, jahem Bell, G.

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Scott, and Jack Westover and I think all like west

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 2>Over got a lot of run. I'm not rolling any

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>of those guys out, but none of them really had

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>any moments in the spring. You can get You're probably

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>not gonna keep all four on the practice squad. You

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>can get two of those guys to practice squad, maybe three,

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and you can just elevate as you need and eventually

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a roster spot will open up. So never really gonna

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 2>keep two tight ends to start fourth running back makes

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense.

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>When when I looked at tight end, I did feel

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>fel the same way. Do you need to keep all

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>those guys on the roster There are so many with

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>all the new rules, with the practice squad, with the

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>elevations and all that stuff. If you really feel like

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you need a third tight end on game day, it's

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy to just elevate that plan right now from

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the practice squad for the short term and then there's

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>all Unfortunately, there's always injuries and ir stints and things

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>like that that open up roster spots if you feel

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like you run out of elevations and you need to

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>put that guy on the fifty three man roster. So

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely ways to go with that. But I agree,

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like any of those tight ends really

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:40.359
<v Speaker 1>separated themselves where if you're gonna be the third tight

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.319
<v Speaker 1>end on this team, you're gonna have to earn that role.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not like just a we need to have three

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>tight ends, so we're just gonna put this guy on

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the team. You're gonna have to earn it, especially with

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the flexibility from the practice squad. Now, I'll give my

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>guy a CG dupre training camp because he's a pads

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>on guy, he's a blocker, he's an inline tight end.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this time year is really c

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>G dupreeze time to shine. Probably not. But I didn't

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>think any one of those guys stood out either. So

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the way I look at it, you know, Henry Hooper

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>definitely on the team at tight end, and then Brock

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Lampy if they want to have a full back package.

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>There's only one full back on this team right now,

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's what it felt like. I compared it the

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>other day to in lacrosse in high school when I

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>was on JV. We only had one goalie, so there

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was no debate about who was going to be the

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>starting goalie. There's no competition because we only had one goalie.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 1>So every single time they called the full back on

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the field, there was only one guy on the ninety

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>man roster that was running on the field and it

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>was Brock Lampy. So you know, maybe that's the way

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>they go there with the tight ends and running backs.

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a numbers game there as well. So moving over

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to the defense, My biggest takeaway on defense from this

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>camp in this spring the health of Christian Barmore, and

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in a good way. Christian Barmore looks like he's in

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>great shape. He looks like he's a you know, he

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>told us that green light, full go. He's got no

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>limitations whatsoever if they have twenty twenty three. Christian Barmore

0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>not even thinking about Oh, him next to Milton Williams

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and him next to Keyon White, like just Christian Barmore

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 1>in a vacuum. Going back to twenty twenty three form

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely huge for this team. Not that I doubted

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that he was going to be a full go, but

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you still were a little bit wary with what happened,

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the blood clots last year. That's not

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a no joking matter, that's a very serious thing. But

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it was great to see him and he looks like

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>he's in great shape, you know, running all around the field,

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>chasing down plays, getting in the backfield of course, like

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>we know he can. So that's a huge development. And

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the two of those guys, him and Milton Williams were

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>attached to the hit the entire spring. Like those guys

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>were the two interior starting defensive tackles from wire to

0:40:51.200 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>wire this spring, and they would run on the field

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 1>together and they run off the field together. They're becoming friends,

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. But it was great to see Barmore as

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a full go. TH's he looks like his old self,

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>which is great development.

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was no ramp up, there was no I mean,

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't know just watching Praudice that this was a

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>guy that went through a major medical issue last year.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>So that that was my big takeaway too. Well, that

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 2>was one of two I had on defense. He looks good,

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 2>he looks healthy, he looks ready to go.

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what your other one is, but my

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>next one was the best player on the field for

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the spring, Christian Zalez easily the best player on the

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>team throughout the entire spring. That's not surprising. He was

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a second team All Pro last year. He is the

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>best player on the team. Yeah, until maybe Drake May

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 1>takes that next step, he's going to be the best

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>player on the team. And he's he just looked, I

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>would say, almost even better than he did last year.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>And the one thing that he's added maybe to his

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>game is he's making a lot more plays on the

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>ball now. Maybe that's just because he was being tested

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>more because Drake May said he wanted to kind of

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 1>test him and he didn't want to let him off

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the hook by not throwing his way and things like that.

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.439
<v Speaker 1>But he had two picks on that practice that Drake

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>May had a couple of picks to start this spring. Yesterday,

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>we actually posted it on Twitter on Patriots Twitter handle.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Just a beautiful over the shoulder one handed to interception

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.280
<v Speaker 1>staying over the top of a go route by Kyle

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Williams he just looks like he's maybe is sending to

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>from second team to first team All Pro.

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I was saying this yesterday on Patriots Beat, like the

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>next step, Like he's already in the conversation of is

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 2>he one of the best corners in the league?

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 1>Is he a top five corner in the league?

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Which I think he is, But you know, people have

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 2>that conversation, So what's the step up from that?

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Is he the best corner in the league? And is

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.439
<v Speaker 2>he like if he takes that step, holy cow? Right,

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and that's it, sir Tan right now, right? I don't

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 2>think that's a hot take. How big is the gap

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 2>between him and Sirtan or at least based off last year,

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>how big is the was the gap between him and Sirtan?

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 2>And do you think he can close that? I've said

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 2>this before.

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if you want to answer that,

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's fun because they're similar players, Yeah, and they've

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Christian Zalez has talked about Patrick Surtan being sort of

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>an idol or like an example for him that a

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>guy he's studied and a guy he's followed his career,

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>So they really play a lot of the same way,

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're both man coverage guys. They're both guys

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that can travel and and just take out your best player,

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>your best receiver. So I'd probably give the experience in

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the edge a little bit to start tam. But the

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 1>only thing that I felt like was missing from Christian

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Zalez's game, and it wasn't like a huge criticism or

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>anything like that, but could you make some more picks,

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, more players, more plays of the ball. So

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what I wanted to get to.

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Is you mentioned, you know, is he getting more plays

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 2>on the ball in the springs, is getting testimony. I

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>think that's part of it, certainly, But I think the

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 2>other thing is there really was no need to throw

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.720
<v Speaker 2>near him last Yeah, and now you get Carlton Davis

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 2>on the other side, Marcus Jones fully healthy, ideally in

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>the slot, Kyle Duggars, Brill.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Pepper's fully healthy.

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Craig Woodson looks really good in coverage too,

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>really goodn't coverage specifically, So there's gonna be more times

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 2>where teams are gonna have to throw in his direction

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:05.760
<v Speaker 2>because they're not gonna want to test these other guys.

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 2>So I think he will have an opportunity to make

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:09.439
<v Speaker 2>more plays on the ball this year.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It certainly showed out this spring, and it was around

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball a lot. You look at his box scores,

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, from a charting perspective last year, like there

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>are games where he's targeted once, targeted three times, you know,

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>two times. I think the one gam where he's targeted

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a bunch was that Cardinals game with Marvin Harrison Junior,

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and he locked them down. So you look at those

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>types of games and it's like, well, he just doesn't

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>have the opportunities, so he may picks on the ball

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like they're just if you're only getting targeted once or

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>twice a game, you're just not it's not gonna have

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a ton of people, Matt.

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember this wasn't he like one of

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 2>the most targeted corners in football last year and people

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 2>are like, why is he being targeted so much? But

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 2>he'd like the lowest.

0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh, he might have been targeted a lot because they

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>played a ton of man, you know.

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Eighty four he was the twenty third most targeted, but

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>among qualified corners completion percentage, I don't think I think

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 2>it was really.

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Low top ten. I would I would guess like tenth. Yeah,

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>tied for ninth, fifty four point eight. So like, I

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>don't mind if his targets are high, target them all

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you want. I don't care if he's not allowing completions. Great, yeah,

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>awesome when you have the number when you play a

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of man coverage and you're man to man on

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the number one guy, they're not gonna just not throw

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to their number one receiver. It doesn't happen very often.

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 1>You have to be really that's that's prime Revus right

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>right right, But or you played Cincinnati week one, they're

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>not gonna just not throw the ball to Jamar Chase,

0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna try to throw it to him, even

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 1>if Gonzo's on him, right, But it's yeah, no, that's Revas.

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Was that guy?

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Or remember when teams just didn't throw it non the

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Osma off for like two years off reputation, and then

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>one year they're like, hey, maybe we should throw at

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 2>this guy again and see and then it turned out

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have any more. So, yeah, gonzalso's twenty third

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>in targets and he was thirty sixth in catches.

0:45:57.680 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Eleve it's a fun uh, it was a fun new

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>answered by Drake may And and a good point by

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>him of he's gonna see some targets in the season.

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>So if I'm just afraid to throw it to his

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>side of the field all of training camp, I'm not

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>helping him get back, and it doesn't help me get

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>better because he's going to be great coverage and I'm

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to put the ball on a platter for

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>my guy. And so it's, you know, that whole iron

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>sharp and iron thing. And it's good that those two

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 1>are going back and forth a little bit. So Barmore

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and Gonzo Arrow up looking good on the both those guys.

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 1>The other item I wrote down here not quite compliment

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>sandwich style on the defense, but similar the third down

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>pass rush. I think we saw a little bit more

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of what they have in store for it over the

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>last couple of days they were in third down a

0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit more, it felt like. So I do think

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to get into some of those you know,

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.800
<v Speaker 1>five man like mug looks and things like that a

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. Uh. You know, they did a lot

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 1>of overload in Tennessee where they would still be in

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>a four down line, but they have three guys to

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>one side of the center and overload that side, and

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>then you're gaming and picking guys and stunting and all

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that good stuff to get guys free. But maybe you know,

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they have a little bit more of a blitz package

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>that we saw yesterday especially. I would say they kind

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of turned it up a little bit after the offense

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>had a good day on Monday, Rabel said, pre practice,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they did a lot of three man rush from the

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>red zone. He'll drop eight in the red zone and

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Drake May was just kind of standing there with all day.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 1>So yesterday they did the opposite, the kind of came

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>after him and the defense got a little bit of

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>a leg up there. I look at you know, Bar Moore,

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Milton Williams gonna be on the field as much as possible,

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>especially on third down. I do think on White's getting

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>into that conversation too. Is being a regular on all

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>three downs. They're moving him around though he's not playing

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the same position. Yeah, I've been handing the dirt mostly,

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I just write, but he's playing inside, he's playing outside.

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I think he's their chest piece. Yeah, I think he's

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy they're gonna hnt matchups with X factor. To me,

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 1>like a big time X factor if he takes that

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>next step in this scheme, which is more aggressive and

0:47:56.440 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>more gaming and more to his skill set right worried

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 1>about rush lane integrity and holding the edge and all

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>that stuff that they did in the old system. If

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.919
<v Speaker 1>he is just allowed to just tee off, I think

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.720
<v Speaker 1>he could have a really a good year in that role. Now,

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>when they get into third down, how are they one

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of their personnel around those guys gonna look like? Is

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Harold Landry gonna be a three down player for this team?

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Is that going to be Chaseon That's gonna merk? He

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of run? Is there a chance still?

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>We didn't see it necessarily in the spring, but like

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>a Brandon Swinson or an Elijah Ponder or someone that

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>they just drafted, uh coming and breaking out into like

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a third down pass rusher role, you know that Joshua

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a type of role. I think it's probably Chason right

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 1>now that they have in mind at least for this year.

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll see maybe if Swinson can take over that eventually.

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>But the edge rush is still something that I would

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>say somewhat unknown. Like the interior pressure. I feel like

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really good and maybe that's enough

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that they can just flush the quarterback one way and

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Landry or a chaseon just to clean up sacks. And

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't necessarily mean you have to win your one

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>on one as that guy. You just kind of have

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to be there and be ready. But do you feel

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>any concern at all about pass rush off the edge

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:14.879
<v Speaker 1>in particular? I think Williams and Barnware and are gonna

0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>get after.

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of like I said about the offensive line,

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like it's better. That doesn't mean they're where they need

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 2>to be. It's more about how far away they were

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 2>last year. Ye Chazon's gonna play a role. He was

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 2>very involved. We didn't see a ton of Braden Swinson,

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 2>but that's another guy I'll be interested to see more

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 2>when the Pats come on.

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope they find a role for Anthony Jennings. I

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>really do.

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.960
<v Speaker 2>He didn't really have much of one in the spring,

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and it is kind of square peg round hole with

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>this defense with him. We've talked about this, like, I

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 2>just think he can play. But they have and did

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I mention Landry like and they have Langer so like

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 2>they have guys that can compete there. I don't know

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that they have. Like we've talked about them getting that

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 2>coverage dictating wide receiver for so long. That same kind

0:49:56.719 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of concept exists on defense, and you know, you might say, well,

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Christian Barber, Milton Williams, those guys can dictate blocking.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which they can, and that's not nothing.

0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 2>But that's sort of like you know, a tight end

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 2>being your coverage dictating wide receiver where it's gonna make

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a difference, like it's a factor, but it's not that

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>there are more ways to counter that versus if it's

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:19.759
<v Speaker 2>a guy on the edge. It's a lot harder to

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 2>double a guy on the edge versus guy in the middle.

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:22.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot eaer.

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like sliding protections and things like that. So

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 2>there's still that like premiere pass rusher away. But the

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:32.800
<v Speaker 2>players they.

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Have there aren't bad.

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.839
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know that they have that guy that is,

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, they don't have their Matthew Judon.

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of that with this roster right now.

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And I don't yeah, in a better way than it

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 1>sounds because unlike Lash, you're like you're bringing up earlier

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with the tackles where we didn't know who their starting

0:50:51.000 --> 0:50:53.839
<v Speaker 1>tackles were and that was not good this year. You know,

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say twenty of twenty two starters or twenty one.

0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Like really, left guard is the only spot that I'm

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.760
<v Speaker 1>not really sure who's starting right now at that spot.

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could make that case for X receiver that's

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 1>sort of still up in the air. Other than that,

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much know who's starting everywhere on this team

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>right now. It feels like now for the most part,

0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>they're like starting caliber players. Right The question is is

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 1>are they starting caliber players or are they really like

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>elite players, you know, maybe they're still missing some of that,

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, edge rusher. I think it's one spot outside

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>receivers another spot where they could probably use still a

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 1>talent upgrade there.

0:51:30.920 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 2>I think those are the two, and I mean, we'll

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>see what happens in right tackle, but I think going

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 2>into when we start doing the draft, those are the

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:38.760
<v Speaker 2>two spots we're talking about.

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing is just depth, and that

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>was the next thing I wanted to talk about. Defensive

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>line depth, inside linebacker depth. Those are two spots that

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I look at with this team that until we get

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>into the real meata training camp and we see some

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of those guys. Now, I thought that there were some flashes,

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, Joshua Farmer, I thought flashed a couple of times,

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 1>especially with getting hands and passing lanes and things like that,

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 1>made a couple of bad passes down in the spring.

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I really liked what I saw from Jack Gibbons a

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 1>couple of times. You pointed out a coverage rep he

0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>had yesterday running with Javon's line five yards down the field.

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But that's impressive, Yeah, with Javon Baker, So maybe he's

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy that steps in there. We saw a lot

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.320
<v Speaker 1>of Robert Spulaine and Christian Ellis on the second level.

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 1>That seems to be the the right now the leaders

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know in the clubhouse to start. Certainly Robert Splaine's

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna start. We know that whether it's Ellis or if

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Julna Tevai comes back. You know, obviously to has been

0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.359
<v Speaker 1>banged up with that calf, so he wasn't He was there,

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:43.360
<v Speaker 1>but he wasn't working out, wasn't participating. That that depth

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 1>can be thinned out really quickly. And I think the

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>same thing with the offensive line. If Will Campbell knock

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>on wood, if Will Campbell has an injury, you know

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you're you're back into trade.

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 2>We talked about this like it wasn't just the starters

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a tackle, they didn't have backups eas.

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, So you know that we're still kind of in

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that mode a little bit. But I wanted to focus

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 1>on the linebackers because we get tons of questions about

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 1>depth at insidelnebacker and after Splaine, what really is there.

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 1>They're really seem to be optimistic about Christian Ellis, like

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:16.879
<v Speaker 1>I think they think he can be a weak side

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>linebacker and next to Spallaine, I mentioned Tobai and Gibbons.

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:23.160
<v Speaker 1>After that, you're probably getting into a little bit of

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>great territory of whether those guys are NFL players or not.

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Marte Mapu, So what do you like, linebacker? What do

0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you make of all that? Well, his body type certainly

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.200
<v Speaker 1>fits it more in this scheme than it did in

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the other scheme, because you're not in this scheme in

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.920
<v Speaker 1>theory the defensive lines getting up the field. They're occupying

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:44.239
<v Speaker 1>blockers and they're getting up the field with that, and

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>so you're not necessarily taken on guards or polers or

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 1>full backs or whatever in the whole like Juwan Bentley

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Wood or a Dante High, Tower Wood or one of

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>those types of guys, so you can be lighter in

0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:01.799
<v Speaker 1>this defense at linebacker. I've always thought he was a linebacker,

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 1>like a modern day NFL linebacker, maybe mostly on third downs,

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.320
<v Speaker 1>but if you can put a linebacker in that spot,

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, a safety body type that's playing linebacker like

0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.399
<v Speaker 1>a Marte. Mapu just says things that you can do

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>in theory, in theory because of the body type and

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 1>the skill set, but things that you can do and

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 1>from a coverage standpoint with that player become a lot more.

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>You become a lot more flexible. You just do you know,

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>if you want to play some split safety coverage for example,

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.160
<v Speaker 1>like he can run the middle of the field, you know,

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>with a faster receiver, with an inside receiver, with a

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.839
<v Speaker 1>pass catching tight end. If you want to put him

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a man to man on a running back coming out

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>of the backfield, then he has a little bit more

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>coverage upside maybe than a true linebacker like a Tavai would,

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>for example, to cover a decent running back coming out

0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 1>of the backfield. There's just a little bit more that

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you can do there with him in coverage. Now, I

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily see it in terms of him being like

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:01.280
<v Speaker 1>a first down, you know, first and second down run player.

0:55:01.760 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that will work out, but if

0:55:04.120 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 1>he's in the third down package and he's playing at

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the second level and the third down package, there could

0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:10.359
<v Speaker 1>be a role there for him. I've always thought that.

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I've always felt like that's where he belonged. Yeah, it's

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of what do they want with that

0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 1>last linebacker spot. Do they want a downhill guy who's

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of counter to what they have to give them

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a different look, or do they want more depth for

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the kind of players they have. Because if it's the

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.800
<v Speaker 1>second thing, it's mopoof, it's the first thing it's to buy. Yeah,

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a good point. Tavai and Jennings are sitting out.

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>We had Jennings on yesterday. He's a good guy and

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I like Jennings, but both those guys still still kind

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of stand out to me as holdovers from an old defense.

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean old in age, I just mean old

0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the old defense in terms of what they used to do.

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Are these schematic fits and what they're doing now they're

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not bad football players like their NFL players like they

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>belong in the league, and everything. I just don't know

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.680
<v Speaker 1>if they belong in this scheme. You know, Anthony Jennings,

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 1>is he a hand in the dirt end?

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Probably not. You know, he's a stand up guy, He's

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a set the edge guy. You know, Tavai is in

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that hybrid role that I don't know if that exists

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>as much anymore. So those two guys definitely still stand out.

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I could hear it with Tavai two in terms of

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that as well. So you're right, you know, if they

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 1>want to really turn this over at linebacker to just

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:25.279
<v Speaker 1>all two thirty two, twenty five and under type of linebackers,

0:56:25.280 --> 0:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's not him, you know, he's not going to

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:27.399
<v Speaker 1>be on the team.

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 2>But again, I think there's something to be said for

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 2>having a guy that's maybe a little bit different for

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:31.600
<v Speaker 2>certain situations.

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, agreed. Now, the other spot on the defense that

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought was interesting is what they were doing in

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the slot. They're they're putting a lot of different guys

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>in the slot, a lot of different body types in

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the slot. Some safeties, some big corners, some small corners

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like Marcus Jones, a little bit like Pop Douglas. I

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>thought there was a there was some chatter about Marcus

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Jones and does he still fit because of the type

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of slot corner he is. I thought he had a

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>really nice spring. I still feel like he's in people's

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>hip pockets all the time in coverage. They used him

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.200
<v Speaker 1>outside too, Yeah, as a strap player. So I think

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Jones is going to be here. Certainly has a role,

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's fifth or sixth defensive back slash

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 1>punt returner, that's enough.

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Of a you know, Josh McDaniels is itching to get

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 2>involved on offense too. I also think, like I think

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 2>some of that conversation like, oh, he's in a contract here,

0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>is he gonna get a second contract? I don't know,

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>but he'll be here this year. Like he's not a

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:22.120
<v Speaker 2>guy you rush off the roster.

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 1>But I was intrigued by some of the different body

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 1>types that they were throwing at the slot position. Isaiah

0:57:28.240 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Bolden and Marcel's dial got a decent amount of run inside.

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Alex Austin, Alex Austen, Jail Pepper's got some run yesterday

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>in the slot. Craig Woodson was playing a little bit

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in the slot at times. So they're clearly and they've

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>said it, they clearly are looking for somebody to be

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a big slot and be someone that will be a

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit bigger and have a little bit more sturdiness

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to him than Marcus Jones. And to me though that

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily know if that's going to be a

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>full time thing as more is it's gonna be game

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:03.040
<v Speaker 1>plan and packagedify. So if they're going to play Miami, right,

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're going up against a team that plays a

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of bass, like you know, you know, a lot

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of regular whether it's two tight ends or a full

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>back or something like that, Yeah, like you might want

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit bigger. You might want to

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:17.040
<v Speaker 1>have a Jabiro Peppers in the slot or Craig Woodson

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in the slot instead of a Marcus Jones in the slot.

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Miami's actually one of those teams that does it. And

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 1>then that's how they win is they have the speed

0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>on the outside with the bigger personnel on the inside,

0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's tough to match up against. So a lot

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of these teams do that now where they put big

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 1>people on the field and then they throw out of

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.880
<v Speaker 1>those big groupings and that's where they get you. You're

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in your base personnel, you only have four dbs on

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the field, but they have speed and they have playmaking

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>at receivers still even with a full back or an

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>extra tight end on the field. So where they go

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>with that, I think it's going to be a lot

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:50.919
<v Speaker 1>of mixing and matching. But they're clearly looking to see

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 1>what's our best combination so that when we want to

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 1>go to the big nickel look, or we want to

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>go to a big slot, who's going to be the

0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 1>big slot and who's going to be the best one

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that role. I kind of could see it with your

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>real Peppers a little bit. I thought he did it

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 1>yesterday and did it pretty well. Craig Woodson had a

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 1>really strong camp. I don't know where they put him,

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>whether he's in the back end or they see him

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 1>as a slot guy as well. You know, maybe it's

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.720
<v Speaker 1>one of those corners that we mentioned too. Where who

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>do you think is the best fit for that type

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of role right now on this team? For the slock mark, Yeah,

0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 1>for the big slot corner, the big slot, who's the

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>best fit?

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Alex Austin's the best player, but

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I think some of that is there's value and he

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:36.440
<v Speaker 2>can be your third boundary corner and backup slot slash

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>big slot like counter to Marcus Jones.

0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>So that saves you a roster spot.

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But you know, is he as good in the slot

0:59:44.840 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 2>as Marcella's Dial? Probably not, But Dial's not going to

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:50.880
<v Speaker 2>give you what Austin gives you on the outside. So

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I think they might end up keeping both of them

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and Bolden like they might keep six corners. I'm not

0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 2>rolling that out, but and I've said this, I kind

0:59:57.880 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 2>of want to see Asa a Bolden play safety.

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be good at.

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Alex Austin makes the most sense. Dial's probably

1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the best pure slot corner of the group. But you know,

1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 2>if we're talking about somebody to start, if we're talking

1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 2>about somebody to be a counter to Marcus Jones and

1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 2>be depth Alex Austin because he can do so much.

1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what they go with that.

1:00:15.760 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 1>But there they threw a lot of different bodies in

1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that position to try to find the best combination, at

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>least to experiment right now with those combinations. So they're

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:26.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a big nickel look like a three safety nickel.

1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just whether you know who's gonna be where it

1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is really good question. Who's going to be that nickel

1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:36.440
<v Speaker 1>player will be fascinating. It's it's a really cool evolution

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to me just to get into like the nickel defender

1:00:40.040 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>in the slot role a little bit. It's a cool

1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>evolution throughout the league of how that position has evolved.

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:49.680
<v Speaker 1>The Patriots deserve the credit. Josh McDaniels really deserves the credit.

1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:52.760
<v Speaker 1>The two thousand and seven Patriots changed everything. They went

1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:56.240
<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel with the slot receiver Wes Welker, and they

1:00:56.400 --> 1:01:00.200
<v Speaker 1>forced teams to put a cornerback in the.

1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's not forget they were able to do that

1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:05.400
<v Speaker 2>because the two thousand and three Patriots changed everything because

1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.920
<v Speaker 2>they were so dominant physically that it changed the rules

1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 2>which allowed you to send a five ft ten over

1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the middle, which would have been unthinkable before that.

1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:15.040
<v Speaker 1>So you get the you got eleven personnel, the three

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers, you have the player in the slot. So

1:01:17.880 --> 1:01:20.160
<v Speaker 1>now the slot corner becomes a thing where they need

1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a man to man slot corner that can guard a

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Wes Welker, that can guard a Julian Edelman, so on

1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. So that happens that of all, as

1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:32.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of catches up with that. I would also

1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:35.200
<v Speaker 1>give Belichick, and I don't think he gets enough of

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:39.760
<v Speaker 1>this credit from like a coaching perspective. When Patrick Chunk

1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.560
<v Speaker 1>came back the second time and he turned Patrick Chung

1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>into a tight end stopper and started putting him man

1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to man on tight ends and playing him in the

1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:51.160
<v Speaker 1>box as that moneybacker, that I think that revolutionized it

1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:54.760
<v Speaker 1>again where Patrick Chung. So you had Patrick Chung doing

1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that and that sort of thing on tight ends and

1:01:56.840 --> 1:01:59.560
<v Speaker 1>playing in the box as a safety, and then we

1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of got into this iteration of the slot defender,

1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:05.640
<v Speaker 1>which is turning a lot more into safety body types

1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:08.880
<v Speaker 1>playing the slot because you have all the Shanahan inspired

1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:11.720
<v Speaker 1>teams that are running outside zone all the time. So

1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:14.040
<v Speaker 1>now the slot corners at the point of attack all

1:02:14.080 --> 1:02:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the time. The slot you know, defender nickel back is

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:18.560
<v Speaker 1>at the point of attack in the run game because

1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:20.680
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to get outside the numbers in the run game.

1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So now it's like, all right, well, we originally we

1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:28.560
<v Speaker 1>needed to cover one hundred and eighty pound jitterbug slot receiver,

1:02:29.440 --> 1:02:32.080
<v Speaker 1>so we're worried about that. So the Jonathan Joneses of

1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the world emerge, right, and those guys become important now,

1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:41.720
<v Speaker 1>k Kyle Arrington. Now the outside zone world has taken over.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got tackles and guards and blocking tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>that are getting up on one hundred and eighty pounds

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<v Speaker 1>slot corners. Well, that ain't gonna work, so they out

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<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, like the you know Cheucey

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Johnson types, like the safety slots, Yeah, start to

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<v Speaker 1>become thing. Brian Branch, you know in Detroit, he starts

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<v Speaker 1>to become a thing. And now you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bigger there, and you need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to take on a blocker and you'll be at side

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<v Speaker 1>and bigger slot receivers like it got like Jacobey Mitay. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good point too. You know, bigger slot receivers, pass

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<v Speaker 1>catching tight ends that are really just receivers, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>know Dalton Concaid types that are truly just pure receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have all these different things that are going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's cool how the game is so cyclical like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the Patriots are sort of in this different

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<v Speaker 1>type of defense and now they're looking for their Brian Branch,

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<v Speaker 1>Like who's going to be that slot safety that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to play that role, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>it Peppers, is it Dugger or is it Woodson? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it someone like that that's already on the team or

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<v Speaker 1>is this something that we look at in twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I want to lose that many games, but

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb downs, well, I mean now they're back in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten tops hopefully not. Yeah, So that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe that's just me, but I can find

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff cool.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the whole you know, I could do hours on that,

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<v Speaker 2>the history of the game evolving and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Last thing on the list, very bottom of the I

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<v Speaker 1>have like ten things listed out on my rundown. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>we get it. You don't care, and it is the

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<v Speaker 1>very last thing on the list, and I'm gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>you up for it. Andy Borgoalis, looks like you can kick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>looks good. Yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a really good spring, closed it out yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>went four to four, drill to fifty one yarder. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna keep John Parker Romo one just to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the pressure on and keep the competition up.

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<v Speaker 1>In two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna want him on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Essentially a lot of teams use a practice squad

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<v Speaker 2>now to have a backup kicker. You're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>two kickers on the fifty three, right, But now you

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<v Speaker 2>have a guy that has worked with your long snapper

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<v Speaker 2>and your holder and his experienced and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tough to cut the guy and you know, mid August,

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<v Speaker 2>only to then bring him back after roster cuts if

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<v Speaker 2>he's even still around, and we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Parker Romo is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be here, and with him being here, there

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<v Speaker 2>will be a kicker competition. They will both be kicking

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll obviously track it. But Borgalis has advertised so far.

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<v Speaker 1>So my question for you about kick it is not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily about that because Borgolis what missed one kick in

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<v Speaker 1>the practices? I think it was nineteen for twenty, so

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<v Speaker 1>that is a number. I think Brian Hines put that

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<v Speaker 1>one out yesterday. So Ben Dynamite, Now, there's no live

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<v Speaker 1>rush right, truly live rush right, And there's no pressure

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<v Speaker 1>really like there's some pressure, but we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand people in Jillette Stadium in Week one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>game winning kick pressure. So those are still unknowns, right,

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<v Speaker 1>You know whether he's gonna when he kicks with a

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<v Speaker 1>rush against him if it's just as good. But with

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<v Speaker 1>what we've been able to see, he's been great. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a like do you have weight on kickers too,

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<v Speaker 1>to like gauge that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the big thing with him is the weather, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's I mean, we can't no, we can't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a training camp thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's on an early season thing like it's gonna Although

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<v Speaker 2>who knows the way these saturdays have been. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>will get to see him kick in fifty and raining

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<v Speaker 2>in July. Yeah, but that's just good. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to cross operation we come to it. I said this

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<v Speaker 2>at the draft. I liked his approach. When he was

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<v Speaker 2>asked about it, he did downplay it. He didn't because

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<v Speaker 2>I hate it when guys like, well, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>get asked on that. Well, you know, kicking's kicking. Well okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but part of kicking is adjusting to the elements, and

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<v Speaker 2>the same for any position, whether it be in any sport.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you hear baseball players well you know in

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<v Speaker 2>the plane in the cold, Oh, you know, we get you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we play one hundred and sixty two games team,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not all the same. So he didn't downplay it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, yeah, I understand why people have that question,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm looking forward to proving people wrong, which means

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<v Speaker 2>he understands it's gonna be adjustment. He understands's gonna be different.

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<v Speaker 2>You hope he's kind of mentally wired right that he

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<v Speaker 2>just goes about it business wise and doesn't let it

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<v Speaker 2>bother him. But that's just something we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>see when we see it. There's really no way unless

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<v Speaker 2>they have a really, really really large walk in freezer

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<v Speaker 2>here that we don't know about that they can empty out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just gonna be something that we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>see when it comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it that crazy to go Rocky style and go

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<v Speaker 1>in the walk in freezer? Because I've always thought that that,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a possibility, right, Like why not?

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<v Speaker 2>So the Saints did that with their quarterbacks I think

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<v Speaker 2>last year before they played the package, So why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Like they cleaned it out and they brought a cup

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<v Speaker 2>a receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the bubble right, and it's just like how

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<v Speaker 1>we get as cold as you possibly don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>can get that bubble that cold because it's it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe the maybe the new facility will have like

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<v Speaker 1>temperature control. So that's what I'm wondering.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you get it because you also need significant size

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<v Speaker 2>because you got to be able to make sure the

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<v Speaker 2>kicks work. Could you create a golf simulator type room

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<v Speaker 2>for a kicker where you don't need to see the

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<v Speaker 2>ball flight because it's track, but you can also get

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<v Speaker 2>the room really cold, or you put fans on the

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<v Speaker 2>walls to simulate wind, or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>The VR type stuff right where they have the v V.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to feel it, Yes, you have to feel

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<v Speaker 1>the cold furniture thing. Have you ever been to that thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Shuns right, it's called I think it's called mom it's

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like you could like feel the wind in

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<v Speaker 1>your face.

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<v Speaker 2>Like on the Oh yeah, well they have I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if they haven't been in a while. They used

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<v Speaker 2>to have at the hall where you could do the vinetaries.

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<v Speaker 1>They still have. It needs to be just that, but

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<v Speaker 1>close it in so you can make it. You need to.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to update that a little bit. It's seen

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<v Speaker 1>it's better days, but they still have it. But the technology,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they could say so updated do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>make it actually feel like January two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>before that blizzard or in that blizzard, and then let

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<v Speaker 1>him go kicking that you get fake snow, you put

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<v Speaker 1>it on the ground, Like, I think it's a good idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's you got to do it right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to feel that until November December the earliest.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you got to hope that if he's kicking in

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<v Speaker 2>a snowstorm, that it snows during the week so he

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<v Speaker 2>can get out there during the week and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>experiment and work with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's face it, if he's kicking during a snowstorm, with

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<v Speaker 1>the way that our weather has been true, they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the championship, yeah, or something like, they're playing deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs, which is uh, which is good anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Right if hopefully he makes a kick, but it will

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<v Speaker 1>be good anyways. Uh all right, So we're gonna open

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<v Speaker 1>up the phones and the emails now and I will

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<v Speaker 1>very much. All right, let's get to these phones. Hopefull

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are still there. Chad is in LA. What's up? Chad? Hey?

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<v Speaker 6>How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you Chad?

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<v Speaker 6>My question is offense defense. I'm getting a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>of feedback, so I apologize if I'm a little stuttered.

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<v Speaker 6>My defense question is, with everything looking the way that

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<v Speaker 6>it's looking, are, can we confidently say potentially top five

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<v Speaker 6>top ten defense this year?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>If they want to get a top five like key

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<v Speaker 2>On White's kind of take a pretty significant jump.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's a lot. That's I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>were you need dugg Er and Peppers to both be

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<v Speaker 1>fully healthy. It's a little lofty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a top five every single what if goes

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<v Speaker 2>their way with the schedule they have, they could sneak

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<v Speaker 2>in the top five, but it would take a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So our offense is competing on a daily basis

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<v Speaker 6>against a really good defense on a regular bait, right,

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<v Speaker 6>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So my my question then is this, so they're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna they're gonna be battle ready. Has Campbell's arms shown

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<v Speaker 6>any issue whatsoever since all of the hype during the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that he's gotten better with every practice, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I try to watch him as much as

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<v Speaker 1>I can. H I wish that we could watch film

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<v Speaker 1>a practice because it's always hard with the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of moving bodies and flashes of color and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that in there. But I felt like you

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<v Speaker 1>got better at each practice. And the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely saw him making real strides with was protecting

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<v Speaker 1>his inside. That was the biggest issue with him in college.

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<v Speaker 1>He get opened up and then he'd get crossed inside,

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<v Speaker 1>whether with an inside counter or like a spinner or

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<v Speaker 1>a crossover or something like that. I thought he did

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<v Speaker 1>a better job of that of staying inside out and

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<v Speaker 1>not drifting off of his set as a camp went

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<v Speaker 1>on here. So we'll see when the pads come on.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I wouldn't say that it was majorly. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I could see guys getting into his body, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>got such a great anchor that I didn't see it

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<v Speaker 1>was as a huge deterrent, at least so far. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's non padded practice, so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little early to say yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And then if I could ask one more question, if

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<v Speaker 6>our olne is challenging, that affects our running game, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I mean that that And thanks for the call, Chad,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for waiting that. That's where I'm at with

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<v Speaker 1>the line. I don't I'm not trying to be alarmist

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<v Speaker 1>about it yet. It's not in that level of it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like last year like you brought brought up earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>We're ways away from that, luckily. But that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>engine of your offense. I know everybody gets bored by

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line talk and stuff, but truly, uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot call every thing if you don't have a good

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, like you just there are things on the

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<v Speaker 1>playsheet that you're just eliminated, you know, the longer developing

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<v Speaker 1>plays obviously, but there also might be run plays that

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<v Speaker 1>you're just not good enough to execute, and the more

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<v Speaker 1>complex run schemes, and so then it just narrows the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of the things that you can call, and that

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<v Speaker 1>makes you predictable and easy to scout and all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. So it's a huge part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>the run game, the pass game, all of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just pass protection though, so it's a good point

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<v Speaker 1>of by the caller. That's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the best run games truly are the most diverse,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ones that can call you know, a pluthor

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<v Speaker 1>of runs like Detroit under Ben Johnson. I mean, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>their run game install must have been like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a phone book, right, like they just said, you have

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<v Speaker 1>all these different types of runs and you have no

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<v Speaker 1>limitations with the personnel up front, so you can just

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want. And that's just a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that adds a lot to the table. And you hope,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Will Campbell's are really athletic, high end run

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<v Speaker 1>blocker as a prospect, and you hope that he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those types of tackles that now he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Penny Suol, but like you hope that he

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those types of guys from cut from

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<v Speaker 1>that same clot that he can pull and he can

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<v Speaker 1>get out in front of blocks and he can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reach front side on the outside zone and like he

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<v Speaker 1>can't allow you to have more range to your run game.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be great. That's exactly what you're what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for out of him in year one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the question about Campbell pass protection

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<v Speaker 1>is probably gonna have some hits and misses for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say year one, as he learns his body,

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<v Speaker 1>learns how to you know, get away with the shorter

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<v Speaker 1>arms and like all that kind of stuff, there might

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<v Speaker 1>be some losses there early. But can he really be

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<v Speaker 1>a day one impact run blocker, because he should be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he was at LSU, and then he should

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<v Speaker 1>be that in the NFL. If he's that already out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate, then I'll be really optimistic about where

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<v Speaker 1>they're at with Will Campbell. All right, Nate is in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Nate?

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, guys guys here you well, yes, we got you. So,

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<v Speaker 5>like my question to you guys is, well, hold on. First,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll say it is my second to last day of school.

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<v Speaker 5>Very excited. So I'm going to talk about something that

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<v Speaker 5>excites me, and that is our cornerback room. What I

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<v Speaker 5>really think. I think we have a really strong room

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<v Speaker 5>with the addition to Carlton Davis and of course the

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<v Speaker 5>main star Christian Zalees and Marcus Jones, and then uh

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<v Speaker 5>maybe Alex Austin on the outside and sometimes in the slot.

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<v Speaker 5>But my main thing is that where would you rank

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<v Speaker 5>our cornerback room like in the league? Like is it

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<v Speaker 5>top five?

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<v Speaker 4>Top ten?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I know we're getting compared to a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>duos like Derek Stingley and then you have Pats their

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<v Speaker 5>Tan and.

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<v Speaker 7>The Bronx and the new Broncos DV.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, where where you guys thought on where the

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<v Speaker 5>Pats cornerback room stands across the league? Thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the calling Nate and congrats on ending school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah like that because you know he's he's cool and

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<v Speaker 1>he calls catch twenty two during school. Awesome. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where do they rank and quarterback. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good question. I haven't necessarily looked at. Yeah, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but the other team's de charge off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head is high. Yeah, yeah, it's the duo is

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<v Speaker 1>high for sure. I mean it's a second team All

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<v Speaker 1>Pro corner and a really good corner in Carlton Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say the duo is high. Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they have a chance to be in that conversation, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and they definitely have a chance to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best man coverage groups in the league, maybe already

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<v Speaker 1>are the best man coverage group in the league. Denver

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<v Speaker 1>has a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Sartan will obviously hold that down. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>good all the all the corners by the team. Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Benford, Maxwell Harrison about Storm Duck, Jalen Ramsey's not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be there, Yeah, Sauce Gardner, Brandon Stevens, Nate Wigan, No, No, Denzel.

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<v Speaker 1>War Martin Emerson not bad. It wasn't bad. Darius Slade,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Porter, not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Him still taking the Patriots there, Stingley, Kamari Lassiter's up

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<v Speaker 2>there right, D'Angelo ross is on the Texans, former Patriot

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<v Speaker 2>Pats er Tan Riley Moss, Chris Abrams, Draine in the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's pretty good. I'd say Denver's probably Rileys

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<v Speaker 1>really good player too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kansas City is Christian Fulton, Jalen Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>Why isn't is he hurt McDuffie or maybe this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>including slot corners? Well, he plays a little bit on that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. It's a good group two. Yeah, Trayvon Diggs

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<v Speaker 1>here elam No keey Ringo Quinny and Mitchell Dorri Jackson,

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<v Speaker 1>Eli Rix. I mean that's a good Philly Philly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what's his name? Is counting him as a safety?

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<v Speaker 2>I think all right, they're probably I don't think this

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<v Speaker 2>includes slot corners, so maybe this isn't the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>to go off of.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of his damn name. I have a kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Cooper Gen Cooper Deen like literally, yeah, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Sayner still, marsha On Lattimore's not bad, but I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>taking Yeah, the Patriots, it's probably it's Denver. Probably Moss

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<v Speaker 1>and Patrick Startan are a really good duo.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw J. C.

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<v Speaker 2>Horn cool Aid McKinstry next to each other, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>on different teams, so that's not it. Uh Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's pretty much it. Look I the Patriots are

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<v Speaker 2>right there with anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Along those lines.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ask you this because I've been asked this to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up je or Alexander, at least by the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get the like I see some Patriots fans

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<v Speaker 2>really clamoring for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's he? What's the plan there so he could play,

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<v Speaker 1>he could play Nickel. Is he gonna come here and

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<v Speaker 1>play Nickel though? Or I don't know. So, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>a boundary corner. Just I love Jeor Alexander. I do too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a really good player, but so was he he

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<v Speaker 1>was nineteen draft. I want to say he was one

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<v Speaker 1>of our first drafts that I was really covering the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and covering the team, and I was horrible at

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<v Speaker 1>evaluating whatever word you want to use. I know people

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<v Speaker 1>get all up in arms when I say scout, So

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say that I was horrible at it. Twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, yeah, I was very I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>young buck, trying to do this, trying to fake it

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<v Speaker 1>till I bake it. But I saw JayR. Alexander's tape

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<v Speaker 1>at louis Ville and was just like, that's a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>So is a heck of a corner. And he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being as good of a player as I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he would be. In he's a stud. But he's been injured.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been consistently injured for like three or four years now.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also progressively played fewer percentage of his snaps in

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<v Speaker 2>the slot every year last year he played three thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one on the boundary, just fourteen in the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a boundary corner. So it's a name, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every time this comes about, I know, but it's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Like, and there are names they

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<v Speaker 1>could add.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they don't need to add, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>first off, the guys I look at right away if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna make that kind of splash move, and it

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<v Speaker 2>would be a splash move, yeah, Trey Henderson, t J.

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<v Speaker 1>Watt, and I don't know that of those guys are

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<v Speaker 1>where they are, Like you, Gyr, you are just signing him.

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<v Speaker 1>So what about Jayalen Ramsey? Because Jaalen Ramsey can play

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<v Speaker 1>the slot, he can play some safety. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey is probably in my mind, the best slot corner

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. He doesn't play there all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He does play a little bit on the outside still,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you use him in that like and he

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<v Speaker 1>has experienced doing he's yeah, it's like two hundred STAPs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Some teams call it different things. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Star is probably the most common one. When he plays

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<v Speaker 1>that star role, like he's he's awesome at it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the guy. And is Miami gonna trade him or

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna release him?

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<v Speaker 1>Might be a post June one designation guy, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>if he haven't traded him yet. There's probably not a

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<v Speaker 1>huge market.

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<v Speaker 2>If he gets cut. And I think Jeier Alexander is

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<v Speaker 2>a better player at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ramsey might be a better player because Jeer

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander has but he's just hurt. He hasn't really I

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<v Speaker 1>guess health assume.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Jeer Alexander, I think at this point is

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<v Speaker 2>Ramsey just peak was a better player.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying Ramsey is a better investment because

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<v Speaker 1>he's so this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm getting at Madden rating, Jeer Alexander

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<v Speaker 2>is probably higher. Who's a better fit for the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>right now? If you're gonna add one of those two guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's Jalen Ramsey and I don't think it's close.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's Jalen Ramsey on both things, but it's

1:20:56.200 --> 1:20:58.439
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. That's not here nor there. Jalen Ramsey

1:20:58.479 --> 1:21:01.519
<v Speaker 1>is a really good player still, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he has that twilight of his career option of moving

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<v Speaker 1>inside to the slot because he's so instinctive and he's

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<v Speaker 1>such a great playmaker inside that he just as it

1:21:11.120 --> 1:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>knows for the football. Yeah, he would be a great fit.

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey. Honestly, now, I don't know if he was

1:21:17.160 --> 1:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>run available. Miami is not trading him here, No, he

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<v Speaker 1>probably have to get cut. Yeah. Well, then again, they

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<v Speaker 1>traded Devonte Parker here. Well, I think that's a different Well,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they're clearly done with Ramsey, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually I haven't followed that one close enough for

1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:32.880
<v Speaker 1>they've done with him or is he done with them?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a little bit of ball. So they.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when they got him from the Rams and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that was the end of the AFC East

1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:44.519
<v Speaker 2>ever being competitive Jalen Ramsey, So, well, it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a it's been a messy marriage from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>if I have my facts. Trade here, he got traded

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<v Speaker 2>to Miami from the Rams, like you said, and he

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<v Speaker 2>played in Vic Fangio's defense, yeah, the very first year.

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<v Speaker 2>And Vic Fangio is not a matchup guy. He is

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<v Speaker 2>do what we do, play sides. Everybody's got their side

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<v Speaker 2>of the field. That they're gonna play and he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a he's not like a shadow guy, he's not a

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<v Speaker 2>travel guy. And Jalen Ramsey didn't like it. He took

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<v Speaker 2>exception to it, was vocally public about it and said that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm Jalen Ramsey essentially like I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do the whole revis tylaw thing like I got you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cat cover cat coverage, as Mike Rabel called it,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the way he wants to play, and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want him to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted him to play his side of the field

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<v Speaker 1>and play his role and that sort of thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>he butted heads with Vic Fangio Vic Fangio leaves and

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<v Speaker 1>then last year I thought that they did that more

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<v Speaker 1>and they are more creative with his usage, and he

1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:42.519
<v Speaker 1>was doing more he wanted to be doing. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the hold up is now. A contract

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<v Speaker 1>probably would be my guest, like he's getting expensive and

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting older, so maybe it's it's some sort of contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I always hate to use cap casualty because it's really

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<v Speaker 1>not what it is, but maybe it's something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked up the exact particulars of why he's Yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really and it doesn't really say but it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he wants out. Yeah, they've also got to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out they got a whole thing on their hands with

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<v Speaker 2>John who Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a long winded way of saying that it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like the coaching staff has nailed it with

1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Ramsey. Yeah, like they haven't really exactly. And when

1:23:17.680 --> 1:23:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I say nailed it eight, he hasn't been thrilled with

1:23:20.400 --> 1:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>his usage and and like the defense and the scheme

1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're running and all that kind of stuff. I'll

1:23:26.160 --> 1:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>tell you you're anti Mike McDaniel. We know that you

1:23:29.720 --> 1:23:31.479
<v Speaker 1>don't want as a head coach. Yeah, you don't like him?

1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:33.519
<v Speaker 2>I do think, well, no, because this is where we

1:23:33.560 --> 1:23:36.479
<v Speaker 2>always gets twisted. He's a good play designer. He's a

1:23:36.560 --> 1:23:37.519
<v Speaker 2>very good play designer.

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<v Speaker 1>He is. I will give him credit for that. I

1:23:39.400 --> 1:23:42.280
<v Speaker 1>don't like him as a head coach. So I watched

1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:45.120
<v Speaker 1>his press conference the other day. Yeah, he looks a

1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:47.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit like a beaten man. Like he looks he's

1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>he's very you know, he used to be this like

1:23:50.400 --> 1:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>vibrant guy, this big personality. Uh maybe even to a

1:23:54.040 --> 1:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>detriment at times he's feeling you can feel the hot

1:23:58.120 --> 1:24:00.439
<v Speaker 1>butt almost like he was hired to that king early

1:24:00.439 --> 1:24:03.679
<v Speaker 1>and he's in overseas and you feel the seat warmer

1:24:03.880 --> 1:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>on that guy. I wonder who said that that that

1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>might be the case. It's tough when for them, and

1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>I know this is in Dolphins Catch twenty two, but

1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they are a division. It is tough for them that

1:24:15.880 --> 1:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>they just can't keep to a healthy Like if I'm

1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>not saying they would have won the super Bowl, then stop.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've also had a couple of decent backup quarterbacks

1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:25.479
<v Speaker 2>that they just get rid of. Sure, but like invest

1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:27.679
<v Speaker 2>if you know you have an injury prone quarterback, invest

1:24:27.720 --> 1:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>in a good backup.

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<v Speaker 1>When they win to a plays, they are like a

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<v Speaker 1>ten to eleven win pace team. That's not the differentiator.

1:24:34.760 --> 1:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And he's I think he is a differentiator because of

1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>how they run their offense. Like their offense is so

1:24:40.560 --> 1:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>motion heavy and it's so multiple and all these different

1:24:43.080 --> 1:24:47.320
<v Speaker 1>things that you need a true to a esque trigger

1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>man like Tua is a point guard. He's not a

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<v Speaker 1>he's not an overlease like toolsy quarterback. He's not Josh

1:24:53.720 --> 1:24:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Allen or you know, Mahomes or Lamar right where he's

1:24:56.680 --> 1:24:59.519
<v Speaker 1>got these crazy physical tools. He's more of like that

1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:03.519
<v Speaker 1>point G distributor, and they the way that offense hums

1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.559
<v Speaker 1>when he's out there is just different than what they

1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>has been with their backups, so that that's not just

1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to let them off the hook, like they have a

1:25:10.240 --> 1:25:13.120
<v Speaker 1>fragile quarterback and they don't necessarily account for it the

1:25:13.160 --> 1:25:16.479
<v Speaker 1>way if they should with a reliable backup. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>a ten to eleven win paced team. They're a playoff

1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:20.479
<v Speaker 1>team with two and they're not without them. Right, it's

1:25:20.520 --> 1:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that simple. What year did McDaniel get there?

1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:23.040
<v Speaker 5>Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty twenty ish, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it's like the third or fourth year.

1:25:30.000 --> 1:25:36.240
<v Speaker 1>So the thing I'm trying to find is the real differentiator.

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<v Speaker 2>So here it is against teams over or under five hundred.

1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I gotta look up the year here. This is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Dolphins catch twenty two because we don't know the.

1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to say it was twenty it was twenty two, Okay, Yeah,

1:25:51.120 --> 1:25:54.679
<v Speaker 2>So since twenty twenty two, the Dolphins against teams under

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred, five and three, ten and one, seven and

1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:02.400
<v Speaker 2>four against teams over five hundred which gave for five

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<v Speaker 2>one in five, one in five. They can't beat good

1:26:07.800 --> 1:26:09.960
<v Speaker 2>team two has played in these games. Will because there's

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing about to his record in the cold.

1:26:11.800 --> 1:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you that they can't beat good teams and

1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>they can't beat teams with the cold because shocker Mike

1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:19.360
<v Speaker 2>mcdanne refuses to make any adjustments about anything.

1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Ever, I don't think it's that. I really don't, and

1:26:21.560 --> 1:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I know we get into this argument philosophically all the time.

1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>It's still in your school, though, what I think my

1:26:27.160 --> 1:26:30.120
<v Speaker 1>biggest criticism of the Dolphins, My biggest criticism of the

1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins is that they can't beat the good teams because

1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>they get killed in the trenches. They get murdered every time.

1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Especially they're all good teams are usually good in the

1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>trenches right there.

1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>They just they are not a physical football team. So

1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:44.920
<v Speaker 1>they don't play well in the cold. They don't play

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<v Speaker 1>well against good teams that are built in the mid

1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.599
<v Speaker 1>through the trenches. They don't, you know, they don't play

1:26:49.600 --> 1:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>well in those situations. Their offensive line has been terrible

1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>for basically like two or three years now, as bad

1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>as the Patriots in some ways, and a big reason

1:26:58.080 --> 1:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>why is because they don't invest in it. You know,

1:26:59.680 --> 1:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't draft people, know, they don't really invest highly. Now,

1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:04.679
<v Speaker 1>they drafted an offensive lineman this year, right.

1:27:04.560 --> 1:27:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Defensive linean didn't they take the kid from Michigan Kenneth Grant.

1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>You're right they did. Yeah, Now they need to run defense.

1:27:10.640 --> 1:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>That was a bit, That's a part of it. It's

1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball. They needed to be sure

1:27:14.439 --> 1:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>up the middle. But they just feel they're like allergic

1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>to drafting a good offensive lineman. And it's worse this

1:27:20.080 --> 1:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>year because Toront Armstead retired. So it's like they don't

1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:25.439
<v Speaker 1>have I don't even think they have a starting left

1:27:25.439 --> 1:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>tackle that you feel great about right now. They have

1:27:28.160 --> 1:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>invested in speed on the outside, you know, Hill and Waddle,

1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously John new Smith. That tight end was an investment.

1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>They are heavily invested in their backfield like they're running

1:27:38.360 --> 1:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>backs like a chan and those guys they that's all

1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>they care about. This is to your point. They care

1:27:43.840 --> 1:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>about the skill players, and they care about the scheme,

1:27:46.439 --> 1:27:48.559
<v Speaker 1>and they don't care about the trenches, and they just

1:27:48.640 --> 1:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>get bullied by these good teams and the trenches. It's

1:27:52.320 --> 1:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>tough so to.

1:27:55.320 --> 1:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Against teams over five hundred or sorry, yeah, against teams

1:27:59.240 --> 1:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>over five hundred six and thirteen since since Mike McDaniel

1:28:04.280 --> 1:28:08.080
<v Speaker 2>got there, against teams over five under five hundred nineteen

1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and three nineteen and three against under five hundred six

1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>and thirteen against it. So it it too is a

1:28:15.920 --> 1:28:16.360
<v Speaker 2>part of that.

1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not all of it, but it is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of Okay, So I want to hear they're starting projected

1:28:20.720 --> 1:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. This is our lads, Debtha Winstill No, I

1:28:25.040 --> 1:28:27.599
<v Speaker 1>thought it was. He started from the last year. It's

1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>not good. Okay, So here's their starting five on the

1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:31.599
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. Tell me if this is better or worse

1:28:31.600 --> 1:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>than the Patriotskay, your boy Patrick paul I left tackle.

1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I do like Patrick did not play really as ad

1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>play last Yeah, a total unknown. Isaiah Win is maybe

1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>on the Dolphins. Keep going. James Daniels, who's a veteran

1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>free agent signing over from Pittsburgh, was a good player.

1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's been heard so that would have been their

1:28:51.120 --> 1:28:53.559
<v Speaker 1>West s White Seri equivalent. He's a little bit better.

1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Then, we'll call that, all right, So we'll give that

1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the Dolphins. They know left guard, that's left guard.

1:28:57.040 --> 1:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>We'll give that one. Of the Dolphins. Aaron Brewer at

1:28:59.120 --> 1:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>center is a really good player, so give him that.

1:29:01.720 --> 1:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>He's good. Here's one that was Patriot adjacent Jonas right

1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>now projected starting right guard. I'll take Austin Jackson at

1:29:11.800 --> 1:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>right tackle. I'll take more Moses. That might be the

1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>worst offensive line. Not good, it's not good. Brewers are

1:29:17.840 --> 1:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>really good center. And then what's there about it? Like, uh,

1:29:21.200 --> 1:29:24.759
<v Speaker 1>not great? Any names that we'd even recognize that? Jackson

1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Carmen is still kicking around the league. He's backing up

1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>at guard. Liam Eichenberg still Kaaran Irad has been a

1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>huge bus for them. Yeah. Uh, Andrew Meyer is like

1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a veteran journeyman center. He's kind of like a West Tweitzerka.

1:29:37.040 --> 1:29:39.439
<v Speaker 1>He's in that mold. The one good player on their

1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>offensive line that I feel good about. Jonah will be

1:29:41.760 --> 1:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>a good player, but he's Aaron Brews a really good center,

1:29:45.439 --> 1:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>like top five, top ten centers in the league. But

1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>other than that, you're you're looking at a bunch of Yeah,

1:29:50.320 --> 1:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not pretty, and they don't they Their highest draft

1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>pick was Jonaho's a high second round pack well, because

1:29:55.160 --> 1:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>they just want fast guys and offense aren't fast. They

1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>want Chop Robinson and they want athletes on offense, like

1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:02.439
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're looking at. All right, let's get back

1:30:02.439 --> 1:30:06.479
<v Speaker 1>to the phones. Uh At, it was a full Dolphins minute.

1:30:06.520 --> 1:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like like we don't have to be

1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:11.559
<v Speaker 1>like glass houses anymore because I feel like the Patriots

1:30:11.560 --> 1:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>are kind of in a good spot. So I don't

1:30:13.800 --> 1:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>better than that offensive line wise, they might be better. Honestly,

1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that might be the worst offensive line in the NFL.

1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:20.679
<v Speaker 1>All right, Emories in Virginia. What's up, Emory?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, good afternoon, Jim. Enjoy your show man. Hey, I

1:30:26.800 --> 1:30:30.679
<v Speaker 4>got a couple of questions here. What have you seen

1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:34.519
<v Speaker 4>from Kobe minor anything? I'll take anything if you've seen

1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:38.719
<v Speaker 4>anything from Nick Kids and my last one, My last

1:30:38.760 --> 1:30:43.000
<v Speaker 4>one is a fante Samuel s has the Patriots closed

1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:45.559
<v Speaker 4>the door on him? The kind of had a Hall

1:30:45.600 --> 1:30:47.800
<v Speaker 4>of Fame career as far as his total career, and

1:30:47.920 --> 1:30:51.480
<v Speaker 4>he has some good years here with New England Patriots.

1:30:52.320 --> 1:30:53.799
<v Speaker 4>Help me out, what do you mean.

1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>By closing the door, like in terms of like alumni stuff.

1:30:56.240 --> 1:31:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Or yeah, alumna stung. I haven't seen in any games,

1:31:01.240 --> 1:31:06.320
<v Speaker 4>no conversation from you guys or all of anybody realt.

1:31:06.680 --> 1:31:10.360
<v Speaker 4>Nobody talks about Asante sam You've seeing it, and I

1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:13.800
<v Speaker 4>thought the guy had an amazing career Hall of Fame

1:31:14.000 --> 1:31:18.679
<v Speaker 4>work over fifteen interceptions, seven returns for touchdowns. He owned

1:31:18.680 --> 1:31:23.960
<v Speaker 4>the NFC in NFL postseason interception return for touchdowns. He

1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:27.000
<v Speaker 4>owns that and two Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a fair point, Emory, Thanks for the call.

1:31:32.280 --> 1:31:35.599
<v Speaker 1>I I know it didn't end great with Bill and Sante,

1:31:36.360 --> 1:31:39.559
<v Speaker 1>so that it might stem from that Bill's not here anymore,

1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>So maybe there's an opportunity to iron out that relationship

1:31:43.800 --> 1:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>again now that that he's not around anymore. Rabel must

1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>must have played with Sante Samuel right today? He was

1:31:50.880 --> 1:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>he was on seven seven? Yeah, yeah, so last year, yeah,

1:31:54.479 --> 1:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he was here. I think they overlapped, so maybe.

1:31:58.120 --> 1:32:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Two years uh or no, yeah, they overlapped for a while.

1:32:02.920 --> 1:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Rabel was here one oh eight, Samuel was here three

1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>zero seven.

1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:32:06.120 --> 1:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was the Vergificantly Yeah, yeah so maybe yeah.

1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I also wonder if that question is we were

1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:13.479
<v Speaker 2>just talking about the slot corners, like a Sante Samuel

1:32:13.560 --> 1:32:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Junior still a free agent.

1:32:14.720 --> 1:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I've seen some people bring him up as

1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:19.439
<v Speaker 1>a potential fit. Yeah, what was the first thing Zobe minor?

1:32:19.520 --> 1:32:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Kobe Minor he had. He's been in that opportunity group.

1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really see anything eye bobbing from him, but

1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>just in terms of where he's playing and who he's

1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>playing with. He's been sort of with that with that

1:32:30.960 --> 1:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>third group, I would say for most of minicamp, which

1:32:33.600 --> 1:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>isn't surprising, you know. So it was like Marcus Bryan

1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:39.479
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, playing in that that spot, would

1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:41.679
<v Speaker 1>tackle with a lot of Ben Woolridge reps and stuff

1:32:41.720 --> 1:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like that with him. Yeah, so similar. All right, Uh,

1:32:44.600 --> 1:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>William is in Philly. What's up, William? Haven't heard from

1:32:46.920 --> 1:32:47.479
<v Speaker 1>you in a while.

1:32:48.840 --> 1:32:55.720
<v Speaker 3>It's been a while. How you doing good? Yeah? Well,

1:32:56.040 --> 1:32:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted I didn't get a chance that the

1:32:58.920 --> 1:33:03.080
<v Speaker 3>talk about far as the real fast just I was

1:33:03.160 --> 1:33:07.280
<v Speaker 3>very pleased. I was pleased. Uh, will Campbell, I understand it, Evan,

1:33:08.320 --> 1:33:10.200
<v Speaker 3>you know I was. I was a little against it,

1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>but I understand we needed a tackle. I like to

1:33:13.800 --> 1:33:20.679
<v Speaker 3>running back and Kyle was a Kyle Williams the wide receiver. Yeah,

1:33:20.920 --> 1:33:24.479
<v Speaker 3>I said, okay, okay, I like free agency everything I have.

1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:28.320
<v Speaker 3>If Bill was doing this, it probably wouldn't went this

1:33:28.439 --> 1:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>way though, But I was very pleased. I have no

1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:32.799
<v Speaker 3>complaints of anything.

1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:33.320
<v Speaker 4>I just.

1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Still looking trying to for that true number one. And

1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:39.400
<v Speaker 3>that's just the take I wish you want to have

1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>with Alex will Fast. I know we in twenty twenty five.

1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:47.519
<v Speaker 3>I know his name is, is it John Mayors?

1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:48.000
<v Speaker 4>S missed?

1:33:48.040 --> 1:33:49.920
<v Speaker 3>If I'm staying right, he doesn't come out.

1:33:49.800 --> 1:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>To Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, you gonna ask about wide reserves

1:33:52.880 --> 1:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>next year. So Jeremiah Smith's twenty seven, right, and Ryan Williams.

1:33:56.240 --> 1:33:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Those are the two best receivers in college football. They're

1:33:58.320 --> 1:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>both another year.

1:33:59.320 --> 1:33:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:34:01.880 --> 1:34:05.439
<v Speaker 3>Do you see Mark Wave was moving up to get them,

1:34:05.520 --> 1:34:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean to get one of them. Maybe that's our

1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:11.400
<v Speaker 3>chance to finally get a true number one.

1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean two years from now hopefully, or you know,

1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:17.519
<v Speaker 2>by the time we get there twenty twenty seven draft,

1:34:17.520 --> 1:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>that's year three of Drake May right, and.

1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Doing my math right there, Yeah, they should be a

1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:24.639
<v Speaker 1>playoff team. They shouldn't be this year four we're going

1:34:24.680 --> 1:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>into here, or year four of Drake.

1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:29.080
<v Speaker 2>May Yeah, they should not be in a spot where

1:34:29.080 --> 1:34:30.880
<v Speaker 2>they can trade up that I mean, those guys will

1:34:30.920 --> 1:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>both gonna be top five picks. They shouldn't be in

1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>a spot where they can trade up to the top five.

1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>I think I can give you some names this year

1:34:37.160 --> 1:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>if you want, if they're in a position now. Granted,

1:34:40.320 --> 1:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I said this about who was it a

1:34:41.880 --> 1:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, and I was like, if they're

1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:46.080
<v Speaker 2>in a position draft and they it's not good.

1:34:46.320 --> 1:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll say that.

1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>About Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams if they're in a

1:34:51.000 --> 1:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>position draft those guys.

1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Something went wrong.

1:34:54.720 --> 1:34:58.439
<v Speaker 2>As good as those players are right, this year's draft

1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:02.519
<v Speaker 2>is weird just because some of the top receivers are

1:35:02.720 --> 1:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>true juniors. So are they gonna come out? Are they

1:35:06.800 --> 1:35:09.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna go back to school? One name I've heard a lot,

1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>so Carnel Tait is the guy you like from Ohio

1:35:11.920 --> 1:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>State and they got to.

1:35:12.600 --> 1:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Get an X.

1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:13.240
<v Speaker 5>So.

1:35:13.640 --> 1:35:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Antonio Williams from Clemson is so many people have talked about.

1:35:16.240 --> 1:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I think he's an inside guy. He's a good player,

1:35:18.360 --> 1:35:20.479
<v Speaker 2>but he's more redundant than he get that true X.

1:35:20.800 --> 1:35:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Carnel Tate from Ohio State is a big name, and

1:35:24.560 --> 1:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a senior.

1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he's coming out.

1:35:27.080 --> 1:35:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Denzel Boston from Washington is another name you'll hear a

1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:35.160
<v Speaker 2>lot he is really that traditional, big, physical X. I

1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't done a ton of work, so this is a

1:35:37.120 --> 1:35:39.600
<v Speaker 2>very light comparison. Don't take this gospel.

1:35:39.880 --> 1:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>It will probably change.

1:35:41.479 --> 1:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>But that is your sort of tech McMillan kind of player,

1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>the guy I really like. And he is a true

1:35:46.160 --> 1:35:48.559
<v Speaker 2>junior and his quarterback's a true junior. So I don't know.

1:35:48.600 --> 1:35:51.479
<v Speaker 2>They may stay and I'm gonna be watching this all year.

1:35:51.960 --> 1:35:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Tyson from Arizona State, he.

1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Is, yeah, he is.

1:35:57.160 --> 1:35:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can let you go. You

1:35:58.640 --> 1:36:01.240
<v Speaker 2>don't have to stay odd for this whole explanation, I

1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want to. I don't want to hold you, but

1:36:03.080 --> 1:36:07.599
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, Jordan Tyson is like he's big, but he's

1:36:07.600 --> 1:36:10.639
<v Speaker 2>not so big that he's lumbering, right. He's got good speed,

1:36:10.640 --> 1:36:13.519
<v Speaker 2>he's quick, he's got great ball skills. He's just really young.

1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>And so there's a lot of variation there. And I

1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:18.080
<v Speaker 2>think I said this about Tet McMillan last year, who

1:36:18.080 --> 1:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>came out as a true junior. A lot of the hype, right,

1:36:20.360 --> 1:36:23.280
<v Speaker 2>there is projection, right, this kid is going to turn

1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:27.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty one in August. So what you know we're talking about, Well,

1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:30.080
<v Speaker 2>this is what he's on the path to become If

1:36:30.080 --> 1:36:32.880
<v Speaker 2>he becomes that guy, you're talking about, somebody who's a

1:36:32.880 --> 1:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>top ten, top fifteen pick and can play the X

1:36:35.000 --> 1:36:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and be a legitimate playmaker in the NFL. There are

1:36:37.280 --> 1:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>also guys that have been at this point in their

1:36:38.800 --> 1:36:40.439
<v Speaker 2>career that have that hype that they just don't take

1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>that next step. He's got a good quarterback in Sam Levitt.

1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:47.519
<v Speaker 2>It's a really rising program, fast rising program at Arizona State.

1:36:47.640 --> 1:36:49.599
<v Speaker 2>They've done a great job with player development. I think

1:36:49.640 --> 1:36:51.800
<v Speaker 2>he's in good hands there. I think Hines Ward is

1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>actually their wide receivers coach. I know he wasn't one point,

1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:57.120
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like it was around in this time

1:36:57.160 --> 1:36:59.559
<v Speaker 2>last year. I did this, this feel about Tet McMillan.

1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is this is the guy that I'm kind

1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:03.439
<v Speaker 2>of behind. As we start the season.

1:37:03.479 --> 1:37:05.479
<v Speaker 1>It can change. There's a whole other season to go.

1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:07.720
<v Speaker 2>But if we're talking about a first round receiver for

1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots in twenty twenty six, if he comes out,

1:37:10.320 --> 1:37:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I like Jordan Tyson.

1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, there you go, Okay, uh just real, just real fat.

1:37:16.360 --> 1:37:19.080
<v Speaker 3>But I know I haven't been calling like that. Whatever,

1:37:19.120 --> 1:37:21.120
<v Speaker 3>It's not that because my job is kind of a

1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:23.960
<v Speaker 3>little demanded and asking a lot of me. But but

1:37:24.040 --> 1:37:25.800
<v Speaker 3>when I'm like, I'm off to dato. So that's why

1:37:25.840 --> 1:37:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm able to call when I just to check it

1:37:28.080 --> 1:37:30.599
<v Speaker 3>in on y'all guys. But I'm always listening to y'all. Okay,

1:37:30.680 --> 1:37:32.639
<v Speaker 3>So I have agree and y'all take care.

1:37:32.680 --> 1:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Thanks William, it was good to hear from you.

1:37:34.680 --> 1:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the kindes. Ward is the wide receivers coach

1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Arizona State.

1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Still.

1:37:38.040 --> 1:37:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that's interesting. Yeah, I really liked. Uh. You know,

1:37:41.280 --> 1:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I haven't watched any of these guys closely, but just

1:37:43.600 --> 1:37:46.679
<v Speaker 1>seeing Cardinal Tate in the in the college football playoff,

1:37:47.080 --> 1:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>just one of those smooth Ohio State wide receives.

1:37:50.120 --> 1:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>He's in Ohio State X. He's not like JSN No.

1:37:54.840 --> 1:37:59.479
<v Speaker 1>He's more like a laved Garrett Wilson type. Yeah, just

1:37:59.520 --> 1:38:03.519
<v Speaker 1>like smooth athletes. He's big, six', three, toy he's, big

1:38:03.960 --> 1:38:06.920
<v Speaker 1>he's got some he's got some. SKILL i think you

1:38:06.960 --> 1:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>will Like Jordan tyson The arizona's. Take, YEAH i think

1:38:11.040 --> 1:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you will Like you're not it's not AND i know

1:38:13.720 --> 1:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>all the caveats of a whole fault college football season to.

1:38:16.640 --> 1:38:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Go but this class is is not is not? Great,

1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:23.240
<v Speaker 1>right it's not? There, well it's it's similar to this, year, Right,

1:38:23.280 --> 1:38:25.599
<v Speaker 1>like it's. Not there's not A i think it's better

1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:28.320
<v Speaker 1>than this. Year there's. Not there's not A Marvin harrison,

1:38:28.360 --> 1:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Junior Milik. Neighbors, well here's the weird thing about this.

1:38:32.439 --> 1:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Class there's so many young. Guys there's so Many Red

1:38:35.960 --> 1:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>strips sophomores And Drew junior is that there's a lot of.

1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Variants so there are guys that have that, upside but

1:38:41.320 --> 1:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>they haven't played to it. Yet there's nobody going into

1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the season that you're hyping like. That there, is but

1:38:45.400 --> 1:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not in the draft until next. Year so but

1:38:48.120 --> 1:38:51.559
<v Speaker 1>like last, year there's more upside with this group than

1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>there was last. YEAR'S i would, Say, so we're getting

1:38:55.280 --> 1:38:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the way ahead of ourselves with the twenty twenty. Seven

1:38:57.000 --> 1:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you knew it was going to happen. Eventually but has

1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>there ever been a wide receiver going one two in the?

1:39:04.080 --> 1:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Draft probably, not not THAT i can think. Of, No,

1:39:07.960 --> 1:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>NOW i Would Jeremiah smith to me IS i would

1:39:11.880 --> 1:39:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Pick Jeremiah smith Over Ryan. WILLIAMS i think he's a

1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit more physically. Imposing, Yeah Jeremiah smith And ryan's

1:39:17.800 --> 1:39:20.760
<v Speaker 1>are a lot Of Julio jones like. THAT i see

1:39:20.760 --> 1:39:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that sort of. Player he's just so freaking, good where

1:39:23.520 --> 1:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Like Ryan williams still looks a little his body type so.

1:39:27.160 --> 1:39:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Long Ryan williams to, me is a Good Ryan williams

1:39:30.160 --> 1:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>is just souped.

1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Up and this guy's really good AND i think HE

1:39:33.280 --> 1:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>i think he's a better version Of DeVonta.

1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Smith, yeah that's a good. Comp, yeah just from the

1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>body type perspective and the. Place Jeremiah smith just is

1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>just a freaking you, Know.

1:39:44.400 --> 1:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah, okay you know how we always get annoyed when

1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>people throw out generational, prospect, Right this is why we get,

1:39:50.920 --> 1:39:53.720
<v Speaker 2>annoyed because When Jeremiah smith comes, along we need a

1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>way to describe.

1:39:54.560 --> 1:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Him Maybe Jamar chase, TOO i GUESS i could see that.

1:39:58.320 --> 1:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>COMP i know that gets thrown.

1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Out so When Jeremiah smith got when we finished What

1:40:03.840 --> 1:40:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah smith was a true freshman last, year, Right, Yeah

1:40:06.120 --> 1:40:09.760
<v Speaker 2>so when we finished the twenty four, draft, YES i

1:40:09.880 --> 1:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>started looking at recruiting and the true freshman coming, in

1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>AND i was Reading Jeremiah smith's, bio which was unbelievable

1:40:16.520 --> 1:40:17.040
<v Speaker 2>on twenty four to.

1:40:17.080 --> 1:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>SEVEN i was asking people about, it AND i saw

1:40:18.760 --> 1:40:22.559
<v Speaker 1>somebody said somewhere like like he's better Than Marvin Harrison.

1:40:22.640 --> 1:40:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Junior And i'm, like, oh like a better, Prospect like

1:40:26.600 --> 1:40:29.479
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be a BETTER nfl? Prospect is, no right,

1:40:29.520 --> 1:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>now he's better Than Marvin Harrison, junior who everybody was

1:40:33.040 --> 1:40:34.920
<v Speaker 2>calling generational coming out of the.

1:40:35.000 --> 1:40:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Draft SO i the one thing that's going to stop

1:40:37.280 --> 1:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>them Going julio is like high school games are ON. Espn,

1:40:41.200 --> 1:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>yeah but they, were like they were showing. Him they

1:40:44.320 --> 1:40:46.839
<v Speaker 1>do those Like friday night, lights like high school, specials

1:40:46.880 --> 1:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and they would go and they would Show Julio jones'

1:40:48.840 --> 1:40:52.240
<v Speaker 1>high school. Game you don't really, do like who nobody

1:40:52.240 --> 1:40:56.519
<v Speaker 1>gets that? Anymore like where? Then, yeah but that's the last. Name,

1:40:56.760 --> 1:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>yeah DID i did she do or have one of?

1:41:00.200 --> 1:41:01.800
<v Speaker 1>THOSE i think you had. ONE i don't think he.

1:41:01.840 --> 1:41:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Did he might, have like they televised some high school,

1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>games but it wasn't because the.

1:41:07.400 --> 1:41:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Cruits so CAN i CAN i bring this back to

1:41:09.520 --> 1:41:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to twenty? SIX i want to give you one more

1:41:11.280 --> 1:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>thing on next.

1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Year by the, Way Jeremiah smith is the ninth highest

1:41:14.240 --> 1:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>rated recruit in twenty four to seven. History he is

1:41:17.200 --> 1:41:21.799
<v Speaker 2>the highest rated wide. Receiver this is since two, thousand

1:41:22.400 --> 1:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>so this Includes Julio, jones who is the thirty seventh

1:41:26.960 --> 1:41:29.519
<v Speaker 2>highest rate of all. Time the reason they're not gonna

1:41:29.520 --> 1:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>go one. TOO i mean they might go one, too

1:41:31.000 --> 1:41:34.559
<v Speaker 2>but if they, Don't Dylan stewart From South, carolina WHO

1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:37.559
<v Speaker 2>i know you watched because he Faced Well, Campbell Dylan

1:41:37.640 --> 1:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>stewart is maybe it's Not Jeremy, smith maybe he's close

1:41:41.040 --> 1:41:44.120
<v Speaker 2>To Ryan, williams but like he is one of the

1:41:44.160 --> 1:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>best edge prospects we've. Seen he get AND i mean

1:41:47.400 --> 1:41:50.600
<v Speaker 2>it's the, school but he gets a lot of comps to, clowning.

1:41:50.400 --> 1:41:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Right and that will be the that will be will,

1:41:52.479 --> 1:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>happen whether It's smith Or. Williams you, know someone's gonna

1:41:56.400 --> 1:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>fall a couple OF i don't think they're gonna go one.

1:41:58.439 --> 1:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>TOO i actually don't think they're gonna both. Go like

1:42:01.080 --> 1:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance that one of them, falls like slightly

1:42:03.200 --> 1:42:05.439
<v Speaker 1>just because of Positional Jeremiah smith should go one, One

1:42:05.520 --> 1:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>yeah he. Might Jeremiah smith is. Different But Ryan williams

1:42:08.479 --> 1:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>might go like. Six LIKE i wouldn't be, shocked you,

1:42:10.680 --> 1:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Know Like Milik neighbors went, Six you, know, LIKE i

1:42:13.520 --> 1:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's out of the. Possible can we get

1:42:15.080 --> 1:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>back to the twenty six offseason, though because now we're

1:42:17.120 --> 1:42:19.519
<v Speaker 1>two years ahead of. Time but here's let me just

1:42:19.520 --> 1:42:21.479
<v Speaker 1>say this on. That it's that kind of.

1:42:21.560 --> 1:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Draft this is a lot of the context for the

1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:26.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty years away from. It you were gonna hear a

1:42:26.120 --> 1:42:28.840
<v Speaker 2>lot during the twenty sixth. Draft, no, okay but if

1:42:28.840 --> 1:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>they do, this it means they can't get this guy twenty.

1:42:30.880 --> 1:42:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Seven get ready for? That so can we can we

1:42:32.920 --> 1:42:35.519
<v Speaker 1>talk about the twenty six? Offseason? Yeah this is very

1:42:35.560 --> 1:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>catch twenty. Two they have not played a game in

1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:39.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty five and we're talking about twenty.

1:42:39.680 --> 1:42:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Six but getting too far? Ahead isn't talking about the next?

1:42:42.680 --> 1:42:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Draft is talking about.

1:42:43.520 --> 1:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>The draft After So nicholas And oslo norway across the.

1:42:46.720 --> 1:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Pond he mentions, that you, know what is the our

1:42:51.280 --> 1:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>biggest needs heading into twenty twenty? Six like what we

1:42:54.240 --> 1:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>think The patriots' biggest needs will be in twenty? Six

1:42:57.520 --> 1:43:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he MENTIONS x, receiver right, tackle tight. END i would

1:43:03.320 --> 1:43:06.240
<v Speaker 1>say those are all on the. List edge, rusher pass

1:43:06.320 --> 1:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>rusher is gonna be really.

1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:09.000
<v Speaker 2>High you know how we do like a big three

1:43:09.040 --> 1:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>needs every. Year, yeah zooming on Our henry stays, healthy

1:43:11.960 --> 1:43:14.879
<v Speaker 2>they're probably year away from tight end on that developmental titands,

1:43:15.040 --> 1:43:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Right but that's not a big three. Thing, sure it's

1:43:17.760 --> 1:43:20.479
<v Speaker 2>the wide, receiver the right, tackle and then that pass.

1:43:20.560 --> 1:43:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Rusher, yeah class rusher might be a little bit of

1:43:23.520 --> 1:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a weaker. Class SO I i know it's easy to, say, like,

1:43:28.600 --> 1:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>oh just go drafted In, hutchinson, right like obviously that's but,

1:43:32.120 --> 1:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i would say a real true three down impact

1:43:35.439 --> 1:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher is probably there still their biggest hole when

1:43:38.160 --> 1:43:41.559
<v Speaker 1>you start to factor in positional value and like all

1:43:41.560 --> 1:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that kind of, Stuff, like obviously left guard is probably

1:43:43.960 --> 1:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>they're truly their biggest hole on their depth chart right.

1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Now but you're not. Good hopefully they're not drafting a

1:43:49.080 --> 1:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>left guard as high as you know in the first. Round,

1:43:51.760 --> 1:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>well we've been down this road. Before, Yes but even

1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>if they have a even if they're as good as

1:43:58.000 --> 1:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>some people think they're gonna be and they're that team

1:44:00.439 --> 1:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>that goes from worse to first or something like that

1:44:02.640 --> 1:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and they make the, playoffs they're picking early twenties and

1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:06.559
<v Speaker 1>they take a left guard THAT i.

1:44:06.479 --> 1:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Was gonna, say we've been down that road BEFORE i

1:44:09.000 --> 1:44:11.200
<v Speaker 2>WAS i know you're gonna be. Upset we've been down

1:44:11.200 --> 1:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that road. Before there is one pass. Rusher so some

1:44:14.439 --> 1:44:16.559
<v Speaker 2>of the names of the top right, Now Ruben bain From, MIAMI.

1:44:16.680 --> 1:44:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Jt overton From, Alabama Michael, kamara WHO i think some

1:44:21.439 --> 1:44:23.240
<v Speaker 2>people started looking at last. Year he could have come

1:44:23.280 --> 1:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>out if that's What i'm thinking, Of Denise Dennis sutton

1:44:27.040 --> 1:44:30.599
<v Speaker 2>From Penn, state number thirty. THREE i don't know if

1:44:30.600 --> 1:44:33.519
<v Speaker 2>you recall any of him from Watching Abdul. Carter he

1:44:33.680 --> 1:44:35.800
<v Speaker 2>had he had a really good college football. Playoff he

1:44:35.800 --> 1:44:38.559
<v Speaker 2>had a really good college football. Playoff he's one of,

1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>these like It's Penn, state freak. Athlete coach him up

1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:44.240
<v Speaker 2>on the skills kind of, thing, like that's a. Guy

1:44:44.320 --> 1:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>if The patriots are a five hundred team or, BETTER

1:44:47.600 --> 1:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>i think that's probably gonna be one of the guys

1:44:49.280 --> 1:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>we're talking.

1:44:49.760 --> 1:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>About, YEAH i would say right now for, me And

1:44:53.680 --> 1:44:56.240
<v Speaker 1>i'm an offense, guy BUT i would like to see

1:44:56.280 --> 1:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>them get a pass. Rusher it got off the. Edge you,

1:45:00.080 --> 1:45:01.760
<v Speaker 1>KNOW i say pass, rusher BUT i really mean edge,

1:45:01.800 --> 1:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>rusher that type of. Player it just seems like that

1:45:04.920 --> 1:45:07.120
<v Speaker 1>would really put a bow on a lot of. Things

1:45:07.120 --> 1:45:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and plus it's also a blue chip. Position it's a

1:45:10.280 --> 1:45:12.720
<v Speaker 1>premium position if you get a boot chip, talent like

1:45:12.760 --> 1:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's another building block type of. Position right where you Have,

1:45:16.040 --> 1:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>gonzo you Have Drake may hopefully you Have Will campbell

1:45:18.760 --> 1:45:21.879
<v Speaker 1>at left. Tackle and then if you add a premium

1:45:21.960 --> 1:45:25.559
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher to that, too now that's another pillar type

1:45:25.600 --> 1:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of player in position that you can stack the board

1:45:28.960 --> 1:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>on like? That do you to watch some constructive criticism

1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that is really just a constructive? Criticism to, me this

1:45:34.760 --> 1:45:38.439
<v Speaker 1>might be like a pu email actually because you're mentioned in,

1:45:38.479 --> 1:45:42.760
<v Speaker 1>it but none of these criticisms are about. You. No,

1:45:42.760 --> 1:45:45.360
<v Speaker 1>no the second ONE i think is more. Pus i'll

1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>read the first. Criticism he says that on catch twenty, Two, evan.

1:45:49.840 --> 1:45:54.000
<v Speaker 2>We get a, name not get criticized. Anonymously It's jared In.

1:45:54.120 --> 1:45:57.360
<v Speaker 2>La but again he likes. You there's no criticisms of you.

1:45:57.439 --> 1:46:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Here So, evan on catch twenty, two when you wanted

1:46:00.280 --> 1:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to say something But alex is, talking you make a

1:46:02.840 --> 1:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>noise that is unfathomly uncomfortable to. SAY i don't never

1:46:06.360 --> 1:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>even notice. That it sounds like he types a bunch

1:46:10.920 --> 1:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>of e's yeah you and, Ah i'm probably saying yeah

1:46:16.040 --> 1:46:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Because i'm agreeing With alex's point or actively listening to his.

1:46:20.560 --> 1:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Point it's.

1:46:21.040 --> 1:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay this could also be one of those things where

1:46:23.120 --> 1:46:25.160
<v Speaker 2>like it's all critical you and then he's watching this

1:46:25.240 --> 1:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's, like oh, SHOOT i got them mixed.

1:46:26.960 --> 1:46:29.479
<v Speaker 1>Up it happens all the, time BUT i say it

1:46:29.560 --> 1:46:32.479
<v Speaker 1>under my breath and the mic picks it up every every,

1:46:32.640 --> 1:46:37.120
<v Speaker 1>time period after every. Period, LITERALLY i can't describe it.

1:46:37.360 --> 1:46:40.280
<v Speaker 1>BETTER i. CAN i assume he MEANS i. Can he

1:46:40.320 --> 1:46:43.639
<v Speaker 1>SAID i, can't BUT i can describe it better without calling.

1:46:43.680 --> 1:46:47.720
<v Speaker 1>IN i don't. KNOW i Think i'm pretty sure it's

1:46:47.960 --> 1:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>me saying, yeah WHICH i do some.

1:46:49.760 --> 1:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Type i've never noticed anything out of place in. THAT

1:46:51.960 --> 1:46:53.200
<v Speaker 2>i know you do, that but that's NOT i don't

1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:55.400
<v Speaker 2>think you say it. Weird THAT'S i know people get

1:46:55.439 --> 1:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>on me for and, yeah AND i know people get

1:46:58.120 --> 1:46:59.240
<v Speaker 2>on me With that's WHERE i thought that was.

1:46:59.280 --> 1:47:01.639
<v Speaker 1>Going, see, YEAH i just did it like oh, that,

1:47:01.760 --> 1:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>yeah that's. Normal it's. OKAY i don't. Protest i'll take the.

1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>CRITICISM i. Constructive the other one is more PU I i.

1:47:10.120 --> 1:47:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Think but when we like preface our takes With i'm

1:47:14.280 --> 1:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>not saying we're fitting him for a red, jacket Or

1:47:17.920 --> 1:47:20.240
<v Speaker 1>i'm not, saying you, know he's gonna be an all

1:47:20.280 --> 1:47:22.840
<v Speaker 1>pro or, anything Or i'm not comparing him To Tom.

1:47:22.880 --> 1:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>BRADY i get it like those he. Says it's me

1:47:25.720 --> 1:47:28.439
<v Speaker 1>in particular again that does this too. Often but, LOOK

1:47:28.479 --> 1:47:30.479
<v Speaker 1>i do that a. Lot And i'm not trying to

1:47:30.479 --> 1:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>say this to toot my own. Horn but we're in

1:47:33.080 --> 1:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the business where like IF i come on this show

1:47:35.439 --> 1:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>AND i say That Drake may is gonna is going

1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:40.240
<v Speaker 1>to be the Next Tom, brady that will get clipped

1:47:40.320 --> 1:47:42.439
<v Speaker 1>and then it will be like held over that. Forever

1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you've got to qualify stuff in this. Business, Yeah so

1:47:45.000 --> 1:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like IF i don't qualify, stuff THEN i leave My

1:47:48.040 --> 1:47:51.240
<v Speaker 1>LIKE I i don't want to get in that sort of. Thing,

1:47:51.479 --> 1:47:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay and Again i'm NOT i know that sounded a little.

1:47:54.080 --> 1:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Arrogant i'm not trying to be, arrogant But i'm just

1:47:56.080 --> 1:48:00.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that if you say something about a player and

1:48:00.040 --> 1:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you're get a little bit, excited and you get a

1:48:01.960 --> 1:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit over the top about, it then you're you

1:48:04.960 --> 1:48:07.639
<v Speaker 1>will Get. Oh Evan lazar said On catch twenty two

1:48:07.720 --> 1:48:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that you Know Drake may is gonna WIN, Mvp, like,

1:48:10.280 --> 1:48:12.840
<v Speaker 1>NO i didn't say, that, Right so that's why we do.

1:48:12.920 --> 1:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>That BUT I i. UNDERSTAND i appreciate the constructive. CRITICISMS

1:48:16.400 --> 1:48:20.639
<v Speaker 1>i will work on my. YEAHS I i guess that's

1:48:20.640 --> 1:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>WHAT i was. AT i think that's what than.

1:48:23.120 --> 1:48:23.200
<v Speaker 6>That.

1:48:23.280 --> 1:48:24.720
<v Speaker 1>NO i told you that none of them are about,

1:48:24.760 --> 1:48:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you and they all love, you all, Right, kendall but

1:48:26.800 --> 1:48:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even juicy for. You minor. Stuff kendall is

1:48:29.760 --> 1:48:30.920
<v Speaker 1>In North. Carolina what's, Up?

1:48:31.000 --> 1:48:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Kendall, Hey, hey how you?

1:48:33.400 --> 1:48:37.760
<v Speaker 7>Doing he Could, HEY i wanted to, ask what's going

1:48:37.800 --> 1:48:40.120
<v Speaker 7>on with Jaylen. POLK i know he's been, hurt BUT

1:48:40.160 --> 1:48:42.960
<v Speaker 7>i was just seeing him participating like like in most

1:48:43.000 --> 1:48:44.840
<v Speaker 7>of the. Drills look like he's kind of competedive be

1:48:44.840 --> 1:48:46.800
<v Speaker 7>in the, drills going up for the, balls catch and running.

1:48:46.800 --> 1:48:49.080
<v Speaker 7>Around is he just he just can't participate in the

1:48:49.160 --> 1:48:52.160
<v Speaker 7>practice right? Now Or and my second, thing how far

1:48:52.160 --> 1:48:54.080
<v Speaker 7>do you feel he's behind you think you'd be ready to?

1:48:54.080 --> 1:48:54.240
<v Speaker 4>Train?

1:48:54.280 --> 1:48:54.599
<v Speaker 5>Account?

1:48:55.400 --> 1:48:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so he's uh, Appreciate, Okay, kendell thanks for the.

1:48:59.240 --> 1:49:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Call so he said. That rabel actually said this. Yesterday

1:49:02.760 --> 1:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>he did have a shoulder procedure in the off. Season

1:49:06.200 --> 1:49:08.240
<v Speaker 1>he indred his shoulder at the very end of last.

1:49:08.280 --> 1:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Year it was the last second to last game of the.

1:49:10.360 --> 1:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>SEASON i want to say it was actually finished the

1:49:12.720 --> 1:49:15.000
<v Speaker 1>year on ir, technically but it. Was it was one like,

1:49:15.080 --> 1:49:19.640
<v Speaker 1>that and he had the. Shoulder he's still coming back from.

1:49:19.720 --> 1:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>That he is. Running him And digs are on the

1:49:22.800 --> 1:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>same exact. Program they do absolutely everything in, practice, individuals,

1:49:27.720 --> 1:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>walkthroughs and then when the live team stuff, starts they

1:49:31.160 --> 1:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>are off on a side, field so they're all they're

1:49:33.000 --> 1:49:35.280
<v Speaker 1>not the only thing they're not doing is the live

1:49:35.400 --> 1:49:38.800
<v Speaker 1>live team eleven on. Eleven's they are doing everything else

1:49:39.280 --> 1:49:43.599
<v Speaker 1>AND i actually it's routes against air, again same THING

1:49:43.640 --> 1:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>i said With, Diggs bulk looks like he's in good.

1:49:47.200 --> 1:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Shape he's just not cleared for full contact. Yet not

1:49:51.439 --> 1:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that we're full contact, now but full, PRACTICE i guess

1:49:54.240 --> 1:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>is a better way to put. That so that's what he's.

1:49:56.080 --> 1:49:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Doing him And digs have been on the same. Regiment

1:49:58.479 --> 1:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they're working together off on this on the other field

1:50:01.160 --> 1:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case may. Be and when the team

1:50:03.880 --> 1:50:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is running eleven on, eleven's they're running through. Routes it's

1:50:07.479 --> 1:50:11.599
<v Speaker 1>usually With Ashon, grant the offensive assistant that they're running

1:50:11.640 --> 1:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>routes and it seems like they're trying to mirror what's

1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:16.479
<v Speaker 1>going on on the like the other field and running

1:50:16.479 --> 1:50:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the same type of routes that they would be if

1:50:18.200 --> 1:50:21.559
<v Speaker 1>they were participating in the eleven on. Eleven so that's

1:50:21.560 --> 1:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>what those guys have been. Doing that was the other

1:50:23.040 --> 1:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>thing about practice as we wrap up with the show,

1:50:25.040 --> 1:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>here AND i want to mention one Non patriots thing

1:50:28.400 --> 1:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>real quick. Too that was one thing that stood out

1:50:31.920 --> 1:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to me about to practice is just the method of

1:50:34.680 --> 1:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the madness of how they structure. Practice AND i want

1:50:39.040 --> 1:50:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to Say bill did, this AND i don't necessarily want

1:50:41.360 --> 1:50:43.519
<v Speaker 1>to say That jirod didn't do, this because maybe they

1:50:43.520 --> 1:50:46.479
<v Speaker 1>did And i'm just not one hundred percent remembering. It

1:50:46.560 --> 1:50:49.439
<v Speaker 1>but there is a very clear build up To Mike

1:50:49.560 --> 1:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>rabel's practice script where they start practice within these like

1:50:54.160 --> 1:50:57.160
<v Speaker 1>every team, individuals but then they go to like routes

1:50:57.160 --> 1:51:01.280
<v Speaker 1>against air or defense against, air where the rep the

1:51:01.320 --> 1:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>same stuff they're gonna rep in the eleven on. Elevens

1:51:04.240 --> 1:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so they'll do it against, air then they'll do it

1:51:07.040 --> 1:51:09.720
<v Speaker 1>at a jog through pace against the, defense whereas it's

1:51:09.760 --> 1:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>eleven on, eleven but it's at a slower tempo like

1:51:13.080 --> 1:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>an upscale walk through and then they get to the

1:51:16.120 --> 1:51:18.559
<v Speaker 1>live team. Drill so by the time they get To

1:51:18.640 --> 1:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>live eleven on eleven's that's the third time that they've

1:51:22.439 --> 1:51:25.599
<v Speaker 1>repped that set of plays that they're working on in.

1:51:25.640 --> 1:51:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Practice like that's gotta be really helpful for like muscle

1:51:29.600 --> 1:51:32.240
<v Speaker 1>memory and learning the. Plays so you have this like

1:51:32.320 --> 1:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>clear build up from routes on, air walk through reps

1:51:37.520 --> 1:51:39.760
<v Speaker 1>live eleven on eleven and they just like do that

1:51:39.840 --> 1:51:42.680
<v Speaker 1>as like a circuit each, day and then each day

1:51:42.720 --> 1:51:44.280
<v Speaker 1>is you, know obviously the plays are a little bit,

1:51:44.280 --> 1:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>different but even some of the uh between the twenties

1:51:47.120 --> 1:51:49.799
<v Speaker 1>eleven on, elevens when they're doing base, stuff it's clearly

1:51:49.800 --> 1:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the same play as each.

1:51:50.720 --> 1:51:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Day, well AND i think some of it too is

1:51:53.920 --> 1:51:56.160
<v Speaker 2>we talked earlier about just how practice there's a good

1:51:56.160 --> 1:51:56.479
<v Speaker 2>flow to.

1:51:56.520 --> 1:51:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Practice everything's, moving they're not.

1:51:57.800 --> 1:52:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Stopping you can fix what you need fix during those

1:52:00.840 --> 1:52:03.639
<v Speaker 2>slower periods when you get into the up tempo rat

1:52:03.680 --> 1:52:05.519
<v Speaker 2>parts moving because you've already kind of made the.

1:52:05.560 --> 1:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Corrections, yeah it's you can see. It and then there's

1:52:08.240 --> 1:52:12.080
<v Speaker 1>times where you literally will see a guy against air

1:52:12.160 --> 1:52:14.720
<v Speaker 1>run a route and then you go fast forward to

1:52:14.760 --> 1:52:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the eleven on eleven and he wins on the route

1:52:17.160 --> 1:52:19.720
<v Speaker 1>on eleven on, eleven and it's, like, oh, okay well

1:52:19.760 --> 1:52:22.519
<v Speaker 1>they practiced that earlier and now they're doing. It borne

1:52:22.520 --> 1:52:25.160
<v Speaker 1>had one the other, day ran that circus route where

1:52:25.200 --> 1:52:27.519
<v Speaker 1>you fake like you're gonna break inside and then you

1:52:27.600 --> 1:52:30.479
<v Speaker 1>break out on the out and and he ran that

1:52:30.600 --> 1:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>route perfectly in the, drill and then he ran it

1:52:33.640 --> 1:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>perfectly in eleven on elevens and caught a touchdown in red.

1:52:36.000 --> 1:52:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Zone so that was a that's a very clear kind

1:52:38.880 --> 1:52:41.799
<v Speaker 1>of structure to. Practice all, RIGHT a couple more questions

1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>from the, emails and THEN i want TO i want

1:52:43.880 --> 1:52:46.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk like two minutes On Roman anthony Because i'm

1:52:46.760 --> 1:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>really excited About Roman, anthony all, right AND i gotta

1:52:49.320 --> 1:52:53.320
<v Speaker 1>get this. Out but in a, second this is a good,

1:52:53.400 --> 1:52:56.479
<v Speaker 1>question in your, opinion who on the roster would you

1:52:56.520 --> 1:53:00.559
<v Speaker 1>trade and? Why who on the roster would trading?

1:53:00.680 --> 1:53:03.120
<v Speaker 2>WHY i just think if they have players with trade,

1:53:03.160 --> 1:53:05.240
<v Speaker 2>value they probably shouldn't be trading those guys because they

1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:05.519
<v Speaker 2>need the.

1:53:05.560 --> 1:53:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Talent that's a tough. Question do you have an? Answer

1:53:13.360 --> 1:53:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it's Between Kendrick born And Kishan. Boody, YEAH i guess

1:53:16.120 --> 1:53:18.719
<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver would be my. Answer so we both

1:53:18.760 --> 1:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>did our run throughs of a roster. Projection so far

1:53:21.439 --> 1:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna post, YOURS i think right, on, yeah on

1:53:24.720 --> 1:53:27.240
<v Speaker 1>The Sports. Up so maybe Next, wednesday well we'll talk

1:53:27.680 --> 1:53:30.360
<v Speaker 1>more in depth about roster projections and do that sort

1:53:30.400 --> 1:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of thing on the. Air but the we both sort

1:53:36.000 --> 1:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of got settled on maybe seven guys in the wide receiver.

1:53:39.080 --> 1:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>ROOM i just feel it just feels one. Heavy and

1:53:43.400 --> 1:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna Keep Afton, chisholm if he's truly gonna

1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:48.760
<v Speaker 1>be here and is already stamped the roster and things

1:53:48.800 --> 1:53:51.840
<v Speaker 1>like not, already but is going to treading in that,

1:53:51.880 --> 1:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>direction it just seems like they have a lot of

1:53:54.160 --> 1:53:58.720
<v Speaker 1>bodies there AND i don't, know maybe It's, born maybe It's,

1:53:58.720 --> 1:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Booty maybe it's just which ever guy has the most

1:54:00.920 --> 1:54:03.800
<v Speaker 1>trade value in that. Room no offense or anything to

1:54:04.120 --> 1:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>any of these, players but, yeah Like Javon, BAKER i

1:54:07.160 --> 1:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>just don't know what kind of trade value you're gonna

1:54:08.840 --> 1:54:11.479
<v Speaker 1>have With Javon. Baker you, know he's probably a guy that's,

1:54:11.520 --> 1:54:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Expendable but it's hard to sit here and say you're

1:54:14.000 --> 1:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get anything, Back like if you could get something.

1:54:16.400 --> 1:54:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Back you, know day three pick For booty or born like,

1:54:19.640 --> 1:54:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that that's probably worth. It maybe if you feel like

1:54:22.800 --> 1:54:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you have a logjam in numbers, there what position would

1:54:26.400 --> 1:54:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you look to add and?

1:54:27.320 --> 1:54:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Why WHAT i mean starting left guard for free. Safety

1:54:32.000 --> 1:54:36.160
<v Speaker 2>i've been on. THIS i think that They Craig. Woodson he,

1:54:36.320 --> 1:54:39.720
<v Speaker 2>honestly he's just been so good in. Coverage, yeah like

1:54:39.880 --> 1:54:42.120
<v Speaker 2>at the you, know at line of scrimmage man. COVERAGE

1:54:42.120 --> 1:54:43.400
<v Speaker 2>i don't know THAT i want them in center. FIELD

1:54:43.400 --> 1:54:45.360
<v Speaker 2>i don't know if that's the best use of his skill.

1:54:45.360 --> 1:54:47.200
<v Speaker 1>SET i would say left guard as. WELL i pass

1:54:47.200 --> 1:54:50.200
<v Speaker 1>strusher is definitely up there. Too Ed, dresher if they

1:54:50.280 --> 1:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>could pull off a Trade hendrickson trade or who's the

1:54:53.600 --> 1:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>other guy's holding? OUT Tj, Watt, yeah OBVIOUSLY i would

1:54:56.800 --> 1:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>do that if it's if it's available and it makes

1:54:58.840 --> 1:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>sense with the picks and all that stuff that would

1:55:00.680 --> 1:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>have to go, Back but you could probably find a

1:55:04.400 --> 1:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>veteran left guard that you could just plug in And

1:55:08.880 --> 1:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>i'll hold them to it on This this was one

1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>thing that we talked about on this show all off.

1:55:13.400 --> 1:55:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Season we just were looking for them to add that

1:55:17.120 --> 1:55:19.760
<v Speaker 1>one year stop gap left. Guard, yeah who was The

1:55:19.760 --> 1:55:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Morgan moses of left, guards, right, like just get that

1:55:22.880 --> 1:55:25.400
<v Speaker 1>guy so that you can kick that can down the

1:55:25.480 --> 1:55:28.520
<v Speaker 1>road and then invest in that later. On but get

1:55:28.600 --> 1:55:31.560
<v Speaker 1>through the season with a serviceable. Player did they think

1:55:31.600 --> 1:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it Was Wes. SCHWEITZER i don't, know maybe they. Did

1:55:34.000 --> 1:55:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it would seem like early on maybe they thought that

1:55:36.360 --> 1:55:38.760
<v Speaker 1>who's that's who it was going to. Be BUT i

1:55:38.880 --> 1:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>never felt great about. THAT i compared him To Michael

1:55:40.920 --> 1:55:42.960
<v Speaker 1>jordan last. YEAR i thought that was the level of

1:55:42.960 --> 1:55:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Player jordan ended, up, Right so that was one, Thing and,

1:55:48.720 --> 1:55:51.320
<v Speaker 1>yes it was one thing they might have missed out

1:55:51.360 --> 1:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>on this, Offseason BUT i don't hold it too much

1:55:53.880 --> 1:55:56.320
<v Speaker 1>against them because if that's the one thing they they

1:55:56.320 --> 1:55:58.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit this, offseason then they had a pretty good.

1:55:58.560 --> 1:56:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Offseason it's a left. Guard it's not like they ignored left,

1:56:02.320 --> 1:56:06.520
<v Speaker 1>tackle so, right SO i give them a break and

1:56:06.560 --> 1:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>that you probably weren't going to be able to hit

1:56:08.440 --> 1:56:12.560
<v Speaker 1>everything that you needed in one. Offseason but could you

1:56:12.600 --> 1:56:15.080
<v Speaker 1>have paid a little bit more for a free agent

1:56:15.120 --> 1:56:17.760
<v Speaker 1>guard who was a little bit better Than Wes schweitzer

1:56:18.200 --> 1:56:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that you knew was going to play this, year and

1:56:20.320 --> 1:56:22.960
<v Speaker 1>not that you could have predicted a? Retirement But Wes

1:56:23.000 --> 1:56:27.200
<v Speaker 1>schweitzer was a journeyman. Guard that is not one snap last. Year, yeah,

1:56:27.280 --> 1:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Right so could you have done a little bit more

1:56:28.960 --> 1:56:31.040
<v Speaker 1>at that? Spot would be the one second GUESS i would.

1:56:31.080 --> 1:56:33.600
<v Speaker 1>HAVE i know they're probably bigger second, guesses like A

1:56:33.640 --> 1:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Dk metcalf trade or something like, that but that was

1:56:37.040 --> 1:56:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a spot that could have been that should have been

1:56:38.800 --> 1:56:42.920
<v Speaker 1>more easily filled in my. Opinion all, right so that's the.

1:56:42.960 --> 1:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>SHOW i know everybody hates WHEN i do, this but

1:56:46.080 --> 1:56:48.880
<v Speaker 1>last two Nights i've been watching Some Red sox Because

1:56:49.160 --> 1:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Roman anthony is up for The Red sox AND I

1:56:51.680 --> 1:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>i was excited, Mildly, alex and you're the baseball guy,

1:56:55.440 --> 1:56:57.120
<v Speaker 1>here so that's Why i'm talking to you about. THIS

1:56:57.360 --> 1:57:00.640
<v Speaker 1>i was excited mildly About mayor And hamble a, little,

1:57:00.760 --> 1:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>yeah but just based off of my very uneducated, opinion

1:57:04.680 --> 1:57:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Like Roman anthony seems like a lot better. Player he's

1:57:07.600 --> 1:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a different level of.

1:57:08.440 --> 1:57:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Prospect, YEAH i don't know that he's a different level

1:57:10.720 --> 1:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>of player right, now but like he's gonna get. There you,

1:57:13.520 --> 1:57:15.200
<v Speaker 2>know he has the potential to be a five tool.

1:57:15.240 --> 1:57:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Guy very excited about.

1:57:17.640 --> 1:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Him you saw it last, Night like they don't and

1:57:20.200 --> 1:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>some of this is the, approach and we don't need

1:57:21.440 --> 1:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to get into that whole, thing but, like, yeah they

1:57:23.760 --> 1:57:25.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have a ton of guys who hit the way

1:57:25.160 --> 1:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the hit the ball the way he did last night

1:57:27.200 --> 1:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to just kind of find that space down the line

1:57:30.360 --> 1:57:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in driving a couple of.

1:57:31.720 --> 1:57:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Runs like they they're just kind of swinging out of

1:57:34.080 --> 1:57:37.400
<v Speaker 2>their shoes a. Lot so you, know his nuanced approached,

1:57:37.440 --> 1:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>plate you, know he's he's ahead on that and he

1:57:40.760 --> 1:57:42.560
<v Speaker 2>made the air and right field he probably shouldn't be

1:57:42.560 --> 1:57:45.160
<v Speaker 2>playing right. Field, uh you know he's a left. Fielder

1:57:45.160 --> 1:57:46.640
<v Speaker 2>but he's.

1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:48.520
<v Speaker 1>A like he's the number. One he wasn't just their

1:57:48.600 --> 1:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>number one. Prospect he was the number one prospect in.

1:57:50.280 --> 1:57:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Baseball there's juice there that that being a number one

1:57:55.240 --> 1:57:58.880
<v Speaker 2>prospect in baseball at whatever point in your, career being

1:57:58.920 --> 1:58:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that almost equation as much to being a first overall

1:58:02.640 --> 1:58:05.040
<v Speaker 2>pick as being a first overall pick in baseball. Does

1:58:05.600 --> 1:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>like that's the prospect rankings are as much draft rankings

1:58:08.960 --> 1:58:11.120
<v Speaker 2>as the actual draft. Rankings it takes them more, time,

1:58:11.320 --> 1:58:14.120
<v Speaker 2>right so you've proven you can do it at one.

1:58:14.120 --> 1:58:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Point SO i mean almost think of this like the

1:58:16.760 --> 1:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>first overall picks coming.

1:58:17.880 --> 1:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>In that's the. Way that's why it feels and just you,

1:58:20.520 --> 1:58:24.080
<v Speaker 1>know again my very uneducated baseball, opinion just watching the

1:58:24.120 --> 1:58:26.680
<v Speaker 1>swing and when he does make, contact even when he makes,

1:58:26.680 --> 1:58:28.920
<v Speaker 1>out it's like he makes hard. Contact, Yeah so that

1:58:29.080 --> 1:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was the big book liner off the. Pitcher that was

1:58:31.360 --> 1:58:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like one hundred something miles an hour off the.

1:58:33.240 --> 1:58:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Bat they have something called barrel, percentage which is, basically

1:58:36.240 --> 1:58:38.000
<v Speaker 2>what percent of the time that you hit the ball

1:58:38.040 --> 1:58:39.240
<v Speaker 2>are you hitting the ball with.

1:58:39.120 --> 1:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>The part of the bath you're supposed to hit it.

1:58:40.520 --> 1:58:42.480
<v Speaker 2>With and he was putting up like goofy numbers in

1:58:42.520 --> 1:58:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the miners, percentage, exit, velocity all that, stuff which it

1:58:46.520 --> 1:58:48.960
<v Speaker 2>could not be the be all end all of. Evaluation,

1:58:49.280 --> 1:58:50.360
<v Speaker 2>well but it's a definitive.

1:58:50.440 --> 1:58:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Number so that's one of those. Ones hit the way

1:58:53.240 --> 1:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>he swings, too, Though and he's this, big tall dude

1:58:56.320 --> 1:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>six foot three six y. Four he's got you, know

1:58:58.960 --> 1:59:01.240
<v Speaker 1>long lake you aren't when he gets the arm, extend

1:59:01.360 --> 1:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>like you can tell that he's just gonna be able

1:59:02.960 --> 1:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to hit the ball a mile and he hits it.

1:59:04.760 --> 1:59:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Hard LIKE i, said even some of these outs that he's,

1:59:07.040 --> 1:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>MAKING i know he's only as a one hit in two,

1:59:09.120 --> 1:59:11.200
<v Speaker 1>games but some of the outs that he's made are

1:59:11.680 --> 1:59:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just hard hit balls or like the fly balls that

1:59:14.240 --> 1:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>he hits Like opo to left, field like he's still getting,

1:59:16.960 --> 1:59:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it like pretty close to the, monster you, know like

1:59:19.600 --> 1:59:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you were still.

1:59:20.280 --> 1:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's, early like usually the first couple of weeks

1:59:22.920 --> 1:59:23.640
<v Speaker 2>during an adjustment.

1:59:23.560 --> 1:59:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Period, yeah a lot Of i'm not a big baseball

1:59:25.960 --> 1:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>prospects guy and like some like we were furious like

1:59:28.400 --> 1:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>two years ago that weren't Calling, Marcelo, yeah because it's

1:59:30.840 --> 1:59:33.040
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous the way that they baby these. Guys and then

1:59:33.080 --> 1:59:35.360
<v Speaker 1>on top of, that you like we had so many

1:59:35.400 --> 1:59:38.360
<v Speaker 1>as kids Like Blake swihart and like all these like

1:59:38.440 --> 1:59:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Other Anderson he's Not he's Not Blake, Swihart like it's

1:59:43.000 --> 1:59:45.640
<v Speaker 1>this is just For Roman. Anthony you. Have there's different

1:59:45.680 --> 1:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>than sufferable to handholding you these.

1:59:47.960 --> 1:59:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Guys to be up at twenty. One players don't come

1:59:50.600 --> 1:59:54.680
<v Speaker 2>up with twenty one years. Old they don't nine a rare.

1:59:55.240 --> 1:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Player, okay everybody tells Me Roman anthony is a rare.

1:59:58.720 --> 2:00:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Player what took so? Long so this this was. Different

2:00:01.480 --> 2:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>this was not about his he was ready to.

2:00:03.200 --> 2:00:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Play the international guys are different than the high school

2:00:06.520 --> 2:00:11.000
<v Speaker 2>like different development paths for an international signing versus a

2:00:11.040 --> 2:00:13.600
<v Speaker 2>high School this is What if baseball really wants to

2:00:13.600 --> 2:00:15.320
<v Speaker 2>get people excited in the young players and they want

2:00:15.360 --> 2:00:16.800
<v Speaker 2>more of, this they need to do a couple of. Things,

2:00:17.000 --> 2:00:20.440
<v Speaker 2>one everybody's in the. Draft no more international. Signing everybody's

2:00:20.440 --> 2:00:23.040
<v Speaker 2>in the. Draft, two no more drafting out of high.

2:00:23.040 --> 2:00:25.960
<v Speaker 2>School everybody's gonna go play, college and that will shorten

2:00:26.040 --> 2:00:28.720
<v Speaker 2>that minor league, windows so guys will come right. Up and,

2:00:28.800 --> 2:00:31.360
<v Speaker 2>then uh was they gotta let teams trade draft.

2:00:31.360 --> 2:00:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Picks the only place doesn't do it like THE. Nba

2:00:34.240 --> 2:00:37.720
<v Speaker 1>basically basically, yeah all, right but with a more functional minor.

2:00:37.800 --> 2:00:40.200
<v Speaker 1>League all, right so we have to. Go But i'm.

2:00:40.240 --> 2:00:41.680
<v Speaker 1>CALLING i Think Roman anthony is going to be a.

2:00:41.720 --> 2:00:45.000
<v Speaker 1>STAR i really. DO i just LIKE i think he's.

2:00:45.040 --> 2:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>RELAXED i think he's, cool.

2:00:46.120 --> 2:00:49.280
<v Speaker 2>And you know WHAT i like about, Him Ted, Williams,

2:00:49.480 --> 2:00:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Yazz Jim, Rice Many. Ramirez The Red sox when they are,

2:00:52.720 --> 2:00:56.640
<v Speaker 2>good they have a top player in left. Field they

2:00:56.640 --> 2:00:59.920
<v Speaker 2>have not had a star left fielder really since me And,

2:01:00.200 --> 2:01:02.600
<v Speaker 2>hey as much AS i Love Jason bay, so, like

2:01:02.960 --> 2:01:04.840
<v Speaker 2>this is a chance they got to Get Roman anthony

2:01:04.880 --> 2:01:06.960
<v Speaker 2>in the left, field and once they, do like, here we.

2:01:07.000 --> 2:01:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Go it's just one of those. Positions it's kind of

2:01:09.600 --> 2:01:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a bell.

2:01:09.960 --> 2:01:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Cow.

2:01:10.440 --> 2:01:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah in when they have a star left, fielder they're generally.

2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Good they have a chance to have a star left fielder.

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<v Speaker 1>Here all, right we'll be back next. Week The patriots

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<v Speaker 1>are on summer, break but we are not. Yet we

2:01:21.280 --> 2:01:22.640
<v Speaker 1>will have a little bit of a break which we

2:01:22.640 --> 2:01:25.960
<v Speaker 1>can talk about in a few. Weeks but this we'll

2:01:25.960 --> 2:01:28.320
<v Speaker 1>be back next. Week we'll keep you carried through these

2:01:28.520 --> 2:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>five or six weeks until training camp. Starts maybe we'll

2:01:31.360 --> 2:01:34.360
<v Speaker 1>do a little live roster projection type thing off Of

2:01:34.400 --> 2:01:37.640
<v Speaker 1>alex's roster projection next, week which will be. Good but

2:01:37.960 --> 2:01:40.320
<v Speaker 1>keep it, here don't go, anywhere don't go on summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Break From catch twenty. Two we'll be here with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys all the way till training. Camp so thanks for.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening we'll see you next. Time For Evan, lazard The

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<v Speaker 1>alex Is alex behind The, Glass Alex, bart thanks for.

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