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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy pros Football Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Warmley, joined as I am every Friday, by Pat

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Speaker 1: fitz Morris and by Derek Brown Fellas. It is Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Happy Halloween to you and to everybody listening. Two of

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Speaker 1: us decided to dress up in some kind of small

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Speaker 1: costume here. For those watching on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: What are you since we're since we're going to dive

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Speaker 2: into that, huh, I'm Clark.

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Speaker 1: Clearly Clark Kent changing into Superman. I've got the Superman

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Speaker 1: uniform under the unbuttoned shirt. I've got the Clark Kent

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Speaker 1: glasses on. I think everybody could have probably have guessed

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Speaker 1: that fits. Of course, is Ray Mysterio come against his

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Speaker 1: favorite favorite wrestler, Debro is coming as.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't find anything to do, man, Okay, I have

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Speaker 3: a blow up costume, and I was telling Fitzy before here,

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Speaker 3: I had a blow up costume, and I can't.

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Speaker 2: See to do the show in a blow up costume.

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Speaker 1: I thought about it. Bro Debro showed up as as

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Speaker 1: Lex Luthor because he's bald.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's fine, I'll be the villain here.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy with it.

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Speaker 4: First of all, no no, pat Fitzmorris, this is a

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Speaker 4: mystery analyst. No, but shout out to our good friend

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Speaker 4: Mauricio Gutierrez for the mask. A couple of years ago

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Speaker 4: at the Fantasy Football Expo, Mauricio a great fantasy analyst

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Speaker 4: from the great nation of Mexico. He brought to the

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Football expol like two dozen Lucidor masks and had

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Speaker 4: the idea of handing them out to people.

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Speaker 5: And everyone was wearing them as.

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Speaker 4: We walked from our hotel to the Friday night party

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Speaker 4: three blocks away. And it was great because I knew

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Speaker 4: who was in the group, but I didn't know who

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Speaker 4: was standing next to me at any particular time anyway.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I at the end of the party, I

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Speaker 4: handed the mask back to Mauricio and he's like, no, Patricia,

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Speaker 4: this is this is yours, man, this is a gift.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Mauricio and his wife Jemma are lazy, two

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Speaker 4: of my favorite people in the world. I know Debro

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Speaker 4: loves both of them. I love them just great people. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I hope they're doing well. Thank you for the mask, Mauricio.

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Speaker 1: Shouts to Mauricio shouts to Devro for making excuses and

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Speaker 1: not doing a costume. Shouts everybody for enjoying Halloween. Here,

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Speaker 1: diro Fitz and I were talking a little bit yesterday

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Speaker 1: on the show. You got to ask every year, what's

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Speaker 1: your favorite candy?

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, I'm more of a sour candy connoisseur, So

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Speaker 2: I'll just go boring. I'll go like sour patch or

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Speaker 2: something like that over like a trendy answer.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand sour candy, I chocolate or nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what you you you go about

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Speaker 2: texture and stuff like that too, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a big part of what you know.

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Speaker 2: I could have just put a bag over my head

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Speaker 2: I thought about doing that, but could have done that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I didn't want Thimmons to be lit about

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Speaker 2: the fan base.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a good transition. Let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that Ravens Dolphins game. Obviously, like the only real

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Speaker 1: compelling storyline here is Lamar coming back. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens went healthy, are a much better team than the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: and this game largely went how you would have expected,

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Speaker 1: a nail in the coffin of the Mike McDaniel tenure

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Speaker 1: in Miami. Just everything kind of falling apart there. But

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Speaker 1: Lamar was back. And this was largely if you told

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Speaker 1: me he was healthy, the Lamar. I would have expected

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Speaker 1: one that's not running a lot to try and you know,

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Speaker 1: that he is. Two hundred and four yards, four touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: three of which went to tight ends, two of them

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Speaker 1: to Mark Andrews. Those were his only two catches in

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Speaker 1: But Deebro, this is the Ravens offense more or less

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's this looks about like

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Speaker 2: will say, if anybody watched that game, Lamar is clearly

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Speaker 2: not still one hundred percent, Like he's not. He looked

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Speaker 2: He didn't look his usual nimbleness in the pocket, and

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Speaker 2: he was very good as a passer in the four

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Speaker 2: passing touchdowns. Like if you started him versus other options

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Speaker 2: on your roster, you're very happy with that. But I

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Speaker 2: but it was a good matchup. He played well. My

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Speaker 2: other takeaways from this game, man like, I think Henry

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Speaker 2: looked fine. Like if you bought low on him with

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Speaker 2: better days are ahead for him in the rushing attack.

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Speaker 2: The one guy I want to talk about here, and

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Speaker 2: I ended up ranking him as a top twelve tight

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Speaker 2: end for the week mark And dude, like, if for

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Speaker 2: everybody out there, if you sat him, it wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 2: So you walk aver from this game feeling probably no

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fitz, what do you think about Andrews? Because I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like, yes, you

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Speaker 1: had a good fantasy day if you started him, but

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Speaker 1: just three targets, two catches. It was a blowout. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a blowout for the whole game. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: till the second half of the Ravens pulled away. Could

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Speaker 1: maybe lean on the run a bit more. I would

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Speaker 1: still I mean, if I had to pick, like a

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Speaker 1: concerned to be a Mark Andrews manager.

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Speaker 5: Same touchdown or boss kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 4: And we saw like I was more excited about the

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Speaker 4: usage for Isaiah likely than I was for Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 4: Isaiah likely has better chance of giving you a big play.

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Speaker 4: And you know the two touchdowns for Andrews, it would

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Speaker 4: being a pretty good day for Mark Andrews. It's just, yeah, man,

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Speaker 4: he's still in the streamer category, but I think, like

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna probably start ranking Isaiah likely like right behind

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Speaker 1: Most weeks, Jackson only threw twenty three times, so of

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Speaker 1: course nobody had like a huge target total. It's just

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Speaker 1: you know, worth worth noting there. Yeah, Honestly, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: have been so bad on third and fourth and one

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Speaker 1: a third one. I don't know how much that's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen this year. Their offensive line gets no push in

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Speaker 1: those situations. It's it's been Lamar or other quarterbacks of like,

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Speaker 1: But besides that, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, so, I'm glad we kicked this to the other

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Speaker 2: side of the ball here because I want to say,

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Speaker 2: if everybody to watch that game, this game should have

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Speaker 2: been competitive. It's Miami Dolphins didn't crap the bed every

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Speaker 2: time they got in the freaking red zone. If that

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Speaker 2: box score Tua didn't play amazing, but he played a

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Speaker 2: lot better than it's been given credit. And the other thing, dude,

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Speaker 2: we got to get out of here with like the

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Speaker 2: refs and the officiating this year, the tripping on all

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Speaker 2: the Gordon get the hell, dude, I'm sorry, Like, what

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Speaker 2: It was a penalty, and you felt the momentum shift

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Speaker 2: So for everybody watching that game, this game could have

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Speaker 2: been much closer than the box score let you believe

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Speaker 2: based off of if the Dolphins didn't crap the bed

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Speaker 2: in the red zone. The Ravens are still a defense

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Speaker 2: that I'm not saying they played bad, but all of

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Speaker 2: these turnovers and the lack of any kind of continuity

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Speaker 2: or efficiency or execution in the red zone for the Dolphins,

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Speaker 2: I think moving forward, the Ravens are still a defense

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Speaker 2: we can target because the Dolphins could run on them,

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Speaker 2: they were throwing on them. Jim and Wattle should have

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Speaker 2: had a much bigger day and this game should have

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Speaker 2: been much much closer. But yes, like all of the

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Speaker 2: vibes run the Dolphins are horrible. Every play that went sideways.

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, his entire vibe on the sideline is terrible.

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Speaker 2: Like I think the only reason he still has a

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Speaker 2: And if you get rid of McDaniel, I think they

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Speaker 2: and it's just a dumpster fire to finish the season.

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Speaker 2: Although it's not a dumpsterfire, Like it's still a dumpster

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Speaker 2: fire right now, but it would be a spectacular one

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Speaker 2: if he is gone. Fits.

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Speaker 1: The tripping call was heinous. It was a horrific call.

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Speaker 1: I would dial back a bit on like that being

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Speaker 1: the difference in like costing un momentum. It was a

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Speaker 1: one score game at halftime, and then the Ravens pulled

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Speaker 1: horrific call. Of course, the Dolphins messing up continually when

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Speaker 1: they got inside the thirty yard line, to me, is

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Speaker 1: more of what made this game not competitive when it

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Speaker 1: when it could have been if they simply just executed

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just they're not a good team. But I

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Speaker 4: don't think they're quitting on Mike McDaniel. I mean, they

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Speaker 4: had the blowout lost to the Colts in Week one,

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Speaker 4: but since then they've only really had their doors blown

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Speaker 4: count that game last night, where yes, it was a

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Speaker 1: But anyway, quicker binder for everybody that all of our

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Speaker 1: dot com slash rankings. There are four teams on by

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Speaker 1: this week. It's the Browns, the Jets, the Buccaneers, and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Let's get into the Sunday early slate Bears

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Speaker 1: at Bengals. True or false, Caleb william and the Bears

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Speaker 1: offense will emphatically bounce back against a terrible Bengals defense.

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Speaker 1: Fits true.

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Speaker 4: I love the setup for Caleb this week. In fact,

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Speaker 1: Debro, you have been among the more vocal Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: I think the matchup, and I wrote this up in

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Speaker 2: I'm Ben Johnson, like, yeah, you let Caleb air it

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Speaker 2: I think this offense is going to look better just

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Speaker 1: I put that word emphatically in there on purpose because

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Speaker 2: Are are you the same mind? FITZI Swift? Are you

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Speaker 4: I think he's a little safer. I'm not quite as

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Speaker 1: Swift is a top twelve running back in expert consensus

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Speaker 2: Who do you all think wins this game?

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Speaker 1: the I think the Bears win.

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Speaker 5: I like the Bengals as home does.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bears just had a bad day last week,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Vikings at Lions, Debro, Your boy JJ

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'm worried about JJ in this one. And look,

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Speaker 2: this is not so much I mean it's a JJ

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Speaker 2: He is about to get put through the freaking gauntlet.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm glad that he's fully healthy. He's gonna need

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Speaker 1: No doubt before I toss the fits deebro just JJ

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's QB twenty two too high, too low, just right

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Speaker 2: It's it's that's about right. I mean, I think like

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Speaker 4: I've got met QB twenty four. I think Debro focused

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Speaker 4: him maybe around thirty.

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Speaker 2: I got him at thirty yeah, yeah, right now.

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Speaker 5: I've got him. I've got him at twenty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because that's too high. I got to move him below

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Speaker 5: Deebo and Wandell. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, like, I think you could play him

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Speaker 4: just because he's good, just like bad on the good player.

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Speaker 5: But I wouldn't feel wildly confident about him.

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Speaker 1: By the way, while we were talking, we already talked

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Speaker 1: about the Dolphins game. Of course, Chris Greer their GM

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Speaker 1: is out a mutual party according to Ian Rappaport, So

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Speaker 1: he's been there a very very long time. Wow, they

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Speaker 1: got some pieces is gone.

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Speaker 2: But we don't have any news on McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wow that I see here. Yeah. Yeah, no other

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Speaker 1: changes to the coaching staff as of now.

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Speaker 2: Chris cruaid, I'm outy, Chris. Chris greb as gets told

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Speaker 2: Ross I'm outy after last night.

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Speaker 1: He's been there a long time. I wonder what this

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Speaker 1: means for trading some of those defensive players that might

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Speaker 1: be of interest to folks. So all right, let's go

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Speaker 1: to Panthers at Packers. Josh Jacobs did not do much

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Speaker 1: on the ground against Pittsburgh, though of course he did

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Speaker 1: have the touchdown to save his fantasy day. Now he

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Speaker 1: faces a Carolina defense that had been looking improved against

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Speaker 1: the rush, but was just run all over last week

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Speaker 1: by James Cook, one of the better running back for

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Speaker 1: Forbces we've seen this season by any individual player in

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Speaker 1: that game against the Panthers run defense. So Fitz will

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Speaker 1: start with you on this one. Will this be more

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Speaker 1: of a return to Green Bay running the ball or

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Speaker 1: are we in for another big day from the Packers

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Speaker 1: passing attack.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's probably going to be balanced early and

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Speaker 4: then maybe the Packers start to lean on the run

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Speaker 4: if they start to build a big lead that the

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Speaker 4: spread suggests they're going to build. But the Packers is

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Speaker 4: almost a two touchdown favorite.

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Speaker 5: So Josh Jacobs is.

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Speaker 4: Playing through a calf issue and he's only had thirteen

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Speaker 4: carries in each of the Packers last two games. His

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Speaker 4: snap shares the last two games fifty five percent and

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Speaker 4: fifty three percent, and in every other game Josh Jacobs

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Speaker 4: snapshares have ranged from sixty five percent to eighty eight percent.

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Speaker 4: So Packers have been giving Emmanuel Wilson a little more

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Speaker 4: run and he's actually done pretty well. Eleven carries for

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Speaker 4: sixty one yards against the Steelers last week.

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Speaker 5: If the Packers build.

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Speaker 4: A big lead, maybe they they let Wilson and Chris

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Speaker 4: Brooks salt the game away late. So I've I've Jacobs

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Speaker 4: ranked RB seven, which is right on consensus. He's not

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Speaker 4: a guy really ever want to fade, considering how Matt

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Speaker 4: Lafleur just force feeds him at the goal line. He

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Speaker 4: has nine rushing touchdowns. Jacobs is still one of the

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Speaker 4: few guys who's in Jonathan Taylor's area code in the

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Speaker 4: touchdown category. I just think Matt Lafleur always wants to

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Speaker 4: run the ball. Packers are the fourth run heaviest team

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Speaker 4: in the league, although they're only eighteenth and pass right

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Speaker 4: over expected like minus one point one percent, so they're

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Speaker 4: only throwing slightly less than a normal rate. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, when will it not be a good environment

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Speaker 4: for him pretty much always.

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Speaker 1: De Bro, you can answer the question, but I want

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Speaker 1: to frame it a sell a different way. If I

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Speaker 1: force you to pick one of these two players too

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Speaker 1: that you have to rank above consensus, would rather be

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs or Jordan Love?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think Jordan Love only because yeah, the Panthers

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Speaker 2: past events has relented it since week four. And to

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Speaker 2: Fitz's point, this all comes down to, and I think

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Speaker 2: what your thoughts are on Jordan Love is can the

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers push the Packers offense. If they can't, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna turtle, They're gonna run the ball. It's gonna be gross. Whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna see a lot of Jacobs, whether

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Speaker 2: inefficient or not. Probably a good bit of Manuelilson. I

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Speaker 2: kind of lean that if and this is a giant

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Speaker 2: giant if if Carolina can keep Bryce on the move

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Speaker 2: and keep him clean. And again I said, this is

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Speaker 2: a giant if the Packers have actually been a pretty

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Speaker 2: decent pass funnel. Now part of this is they get

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Speaker 2: up on teams and then their throw to come back,

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Speaker 2: but their pass defense is giving up a decent amount

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Speaker 2: of production. Like since week four, we're talking about a

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Speaker 2: pass defense. It's given up the tenth most passing yards

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Speaker 2: per game, the sixth highest passer rating, and the second

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Speaker 2: highest CPOE. So if Bryce can take advantage of that

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Speaker 2: which has been like a pass defenses that has taken

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Speaker 2: a small step back. Now Micah Parsons is going to

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Speaker 2: play a huge role in that, then yes, Carolina could

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Speaker 2: push them and we could see more Jordan love. So

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Speaker 2: Jacobs is not a guy like Pat talked about, I'm

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Speaker 2: ever gonna fade. But if you were to tell me,

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Speaker 2: like he has a good game, but not an amazing game,

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Speaker 2: And like there's guys that like Kyron has a better game,

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Speaker 2: James Cook has a better game than him, Kamani Vedell,

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Speaker 2: like any one of these guys that are a good

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Speaker 1: Next game here, guys, Bronco's at Texans. Bo Nicks is

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Speaker 1: the number one quarterback in Fantasy across the past two

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Speaker 1: weeks by a decent margin. Where are you ranking him

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Speaker 1: this week against a SUPERB Texans defense? And what about RJ. Harvey?

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Speaker 1: Harvey who is coming off of a three touchdown game,

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Speaker 1: but it's one in which he still only got half

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Speaker 1: the touches. JK. Dobbins did debro starting with.

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Speaker 2: You, I've got Bodix at QB eighteen. He has been

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Speaker 2: so matchup sensitive over the last I mean basically the

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Speaker 2: entire season. So do I want to rush out there

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Speaker 2: to play bow Knicks? Despite the hot streak against Houston

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Speaker 2: since Week four, they're allowing the second febus yards per

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Speaker 2: attempt and CPO in the lowest passing yards per game

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Speaker 2: and the lowest success rate per dropback. Heck, no, man,

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Speaker 2: no way. And do I want to play RJ. Harvey

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Speaker 2: coming off a three touchdown game which he turned almost

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Speaker 2: half of his touches because he got eight touches into touchdowns. No,

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Speaker 2: it's just Sean Payton is still Sean paytoning He played

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Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of the snaps it like it's awesome,

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Speaker 2: and I would love to sit here and be dancing,

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Speaker 2: you know, into perpetuity about RJ. Harvey. But again, he's

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Speaker 2: just not getting enough volume. It's just a fact. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, Stebridge, Sorry, I was gonna go ahead, Warm,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask if you like the under

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Speaker 1: in this game, because you know, yeah, but not when

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Speaker 1: I do astraight the lines at forty and a half

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Speaker 1: on hardway, I like the under.

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Speaker 2: I really like the under. And I've got RJ. Harvey

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Speaker 2: because I know this is part of your question too

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Speaker 2: at RB thirty seven, right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fits, what what do you think Bonix? I believe

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Speaker 1: is QB eighteen in consensus rankings, which is aligned with

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Speaker 1: with what Debro said, and Harvey I think is about

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Speaker 1: RB thirty five. If I remember correctly. Do those number

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Speaker 1: sound right? Are you? Also? Kind of even though it's

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Speaker 1: the lowest total of the week, leaning towards the under.

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Speaker 4: I'm leaning towards the under. I'm surprised it went from

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Speaker 4: thirty nine and a half up. I thought it might

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Speaker 4: go down a little. So yeah, anything under forty I love.

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Speaker 4: I've nicked ranked QB nineteen and I think I'm also

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Speaker 4: at thirty seven for Harvey, so a little below census. Look, man,

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Speaker 4: we know this two week run for Bonicks has been

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Speaker 4: pretty fluky like. He was playing poorly for most of

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Speaker 4: that game against the Giants two weeks ago. He stepped

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Speaker 4: on the gas light because they were trailing big and

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Speaker 4: had a couple of touchdown runs in that game, and

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Speaker 4: then last week he got to face the Dallas defense,

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Speaker 4: which pretty much turns every quarterback into Tom Brady. So

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Speaker 4: it's not going to be as easy against the Texans.

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Speaker 4: They're giving up eleven and a half Fantasy points per

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Speaker 4: game to quarterbacks, fewest in the league. They've got the

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Speaker 4: lowest opponent passer rating in the league by far. They've

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Speaker 4: allowed the second lowest completion percentage only fifty eight percent.

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Speaker 4: They've allowed the third fewest yards per a tempt six

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Speaker 4: point three. So yeah, not really excited about Nicks. And

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Speaker 4: as for our J Harvey, I'm just I'm glad the

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Speaker 4: touchdowns are keeping him on the radar, but you just

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Speaker 4: can't comfortably start him in fantasy. He's played under thirty

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Speaker 4: percent of Denver's offensive snaps in four straight games, and

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Speaker 4: he has somehow scored four touchdowns the last two weeks

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Speaker 4: on fourteen touches. It's a really nice parlor trick, but

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Speaker 4: not the sort of product you can count on.

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Speaker 5: Fits.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you because I asked Debro about

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Speaker 1: like DeAndre Swift. First, Nico Collins? Where are you ranking

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins this week? This wasn't one of the questions

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Speaker 1: I prepped you for. But he you know again, no

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Speaker 1: Pats or Tan, but this offense just against that Broncos

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Speaker 1: pass rush, He's wide receiver seventeen in ECR.

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Speaker 5: Wide receiver seventeen is where I have him too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wide receiver eighteen for me. Okay, so you guys

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Speaker 1: are basically right there. Let's let's go to Falcons at Patriots.

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Speaker 1: We can go kind of quick on this one, just

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Speaker 1: because it's a player that has burnt a lot of

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Speaker 1: people this season, but maybe some signs of life from

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson this last week. Possibly, or if we're being

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Speaker 1: optimistic here, Ramondre Stevenson missed practice on Wednesday. I forgot

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Speaker 1: to check again to see.

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Speaker 5: When you spid Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Also, okay, I thought he might have, but I hadn't

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Speaker 1: written it down. So Stevenson not having practice yet it's

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Speaker 1: Friday morning. Be sure to check his status later in

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Speaker 1: the day. But if we think that Ramadre is limited

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Speaker 1: or maybe even missing this game, Debro, what's your interest

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Speaker 1: level in Henderson this week?

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot. I think I'm probably gonna bump

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Speaker 2: him up to like an RB two. I will say

649
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: to everybody, Look, we can all run away from it.

650
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: People gonna hate it. You're still going to see Zerel Jennings.

651
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: If Ormandre is out, Terrell Jennings is still going to

652
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: get work. And so if you're in deeper leagues, you

653
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: need to pick him up. And I'm not saying that

654
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: Travon Henderson will not lead the backfield. I'm not saying

655
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: that we shouldn't believe in him and stuff. But even

656
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: last week's big breakout game, Travion Henderson still continued the

657
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: same things that we've been seeing for the entirety of

658
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: the season. He had six yards before contact per attempt

659
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: last week. He's still only forced one misstackle, so ten

660
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: percent mistackle rate and one point five yards of to

661
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: contact per attempt. So it was encouraging. But if you

662
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: look underneath the surface and you popped the hood for

663
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: a second, he's still not breaking tackles, and so I

664
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: don't know what's going to change on that. Like I'm

665
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: I want to be hopeful about it, but again it's

666
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel, and I think we should still have Well, the.

667
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Travian fumbled last week, which means he's gonna get twenty

668
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: carries this week.

669
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've we're following the Rabel alf. You know

670
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: that fumble wasn't his faultbody else's fault. You know we

671
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: use that for ramondre least.

672
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Steve ro because he said

673
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: you'd move him up to maybe even like an RB

674
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: two range if or Andre's out. If Romandre plays but

675
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: has been limited, all weigain by the way the fantasy

676
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: pros are they playing tool gives him a twenty two

677
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: percent chance to play Romondre Stevenson, so keep an eye

678
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: on that. Obviously, more news will come out, maybe even

679
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: by the time you're listening to this. But if he

680
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: does play but has been limited all week, how high

681
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: would you move Henderson? Because Henderson right now is RB

682
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: thirty eight, so that's a pretty wide gap from where

683
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: he is in ECR to where you would consider ranking him.

684
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: If rom Andre's out, I mean I.

685
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: Have him somewhere in like the low end, probably like

686
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: high end RB three range, just because Vrabel doesn't want

687
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: to give him a highest snap count. So if Andre

688
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: is healthy enough to play, I think at best you're

689
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: probably looking at like a fifty to fifty split, or

690
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: maybe we see three backs get into the mix. Maybe

691
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: it's Remandre, Turel Jennings, and Treveon Henderson. As much as

692
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: people don't want to see that, I think it's a possibility.

693
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Fit's what do you think about Henderson this week?

694
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: Right now, I've got him at a wide receiver thirty five.

695
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: If we're recording this on Friday morning. If Ramandra Stevenson

696
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 4: doesn't practice today, he's not gonna play, and I would

697
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 4: propel Traveon Henderson up to seventeenth. I would have him

698
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: right behind Jalen Warren, right ahead of the slumping Travis

699
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: Etn and ahead of JK. Dobbins and deebro like ten

700
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: carries last week for Traveon Henderson, Like, I don't really

701
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 4: care what the missed tackles forced in yards after contact

702
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: per carrys and a small sample.

703
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 5: Size like that.

704
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: What had me excited last week was that Josh McDaniels

705
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 4: finally gave Henderson some outside runs rather than just slamming

706
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: him in between the tackles and the outside stuff. That

707
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: is Traveon's bread and butter. So more of that, please,

708
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 4: That's what had me excited. I don't really care about

709
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: how many missed tackles.

710
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: He for, well, I mean that's fine, but over fifty three,

711
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: over fifty three carries, his numbers are still terrible over

712
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: the whole season.

713
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: Fits he Yeah, it's still fifty three is a pretty

714
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: small sample size, dude, And we get.

715
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: Is it still bad or are we gonna like I

716
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: believe it?

717
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 4: But again again, we're just we've been seeing a lot

718
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: of inside runs with Henderson and that, like, cranking tackles

719
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: on inside runs is not really his thing, man, Like

720
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: hopefully they'll tailor the game plan if they know Remandre

721
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: is gonna be out.

722
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope. So I'm just saying I don't

723
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of faith, and I'm saying that Traveon

724
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: hasn't played good this year. That's all.

725
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this fits in transition to our

726
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: next game here forty nine Ers at Giants, because I

727
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: want to ask about Tyro and Tracy. He's RB sixteen

728
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: in consensus rankings in his first game since Camp Scataboo's

729
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: season ending injury. So based on how high you would

730
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: move Trayvon Henderson, would you would he move him ahead

731
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: of Tracy or are they is Tracy somebody that still

732
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: would be ahead of Henderson for you?

733
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: No, I've got Tracy at fifteen, so I've got it

734
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 4: would be if remondres out, it would be Tracy at fifteen,

735
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: Warren Jalen Warren at sixteen, and Traveon Henderson seventeen. So yeah,

736
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: I mean like Tracy was the Giants leadback in twenty

737
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: twenty four from Week five on, and he ever which

738
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: thirteen point two PPR points per game, which was something

739
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: like RB twenty one in Fantasy points per game. I

740
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 4: think we see something like that again, but maybe with

741
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: slightly heavier usage, since the Giants don't have Molik neighbors

742
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: anymore like they did last year. In the four games

743
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 4: before Cam Skadubu got hurt, he was averaging twenty two

744
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: touches a game. So I think Tracy is probably gonna

745
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 4: land somewhere in RB two territory the rest of the way,

746
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: but maybe with a little more ceiling than he had

747
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 4: last year, because I think they need him a little

748
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 4: more deeper.

749
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: What do you think is Tyrone Tracy at RB sixteen

750
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: too high, too low, or just right?

751
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: It's about just right. I've got him a shade above that.

752
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: I've got him at RB fourteen. And this comes down to,

753
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: like I pat's right, Like I think he's gonna probably

754
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: flirt with twenty opportunities between targets and carries and everything,

755
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: and the same. I still think this is a good

756
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: matchup for the Giants offense just in general, like the

757
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: forty nine ers have not been a fantastic defense. They're

758
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: not pressure in the quarterback, they're vulnerable versus slot wide receivers.

759
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: Their run defense is pretty pedestrian, man like. Since Week four,

760
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: we're discussing a run defense, It's given up the ninth

761
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: highest yards of the contact per attempt and the thirteenth

762
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: highest yards per carry two zone runs, which is comprised

763
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: sixty two percent of Tracy's rushing volume to this point.

764
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: So Tracy is gonna have twenty opportunities. He's a mid

765
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: range RB two, and honestly, I won't be surprised if

766
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: be inured he finishes this week as a low end

767
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: RB one. If he gets twenty opportunities, it's an average

768
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 2: run defense and he scores once. That's possible this week.

769
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: What about rest of the season, because Fitz said something

770
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: like an RB two would be kind of his expectation

771
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: going forward. Is that about what you expect Debro rest

772
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: of season with Scataboo out, Yeah, I.

773
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: Mean rest of the season. I've got Tracy at RB

774
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: twenty like I think him him Ricodoudle, Chase Brown. It's

775
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting conversation. That's about the area code

776
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Speaker 1: Next game here, guys, Colts at Steelers fits will start

788
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: with you here? Would you rather start DK Metcalf or

789
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior? In this game? They are ranked close

790
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: together in ECR at least they were when I put

791
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: this question together. Let me check to se where they

792
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: are now. Yep, they're back to back Wide receiver fifteen

793
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: and wide receiver sixteen in half point Expert Consensus Rankings scoring.

794
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf or Michael Pittman Jr.

795
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 4: I have Pittman Wide receiver twelve and Metcalf Wide receiver thirteen.

796
00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 4: So both both defenses stink against perimeter receivers. Slight edge

797
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 4: to the guy in the better offense Pittman, Debro, I've.

798
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: Got I've got a wider gap, I've got white, Michael

799
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: Pittman a wide receiver ten, and I've got DK at

800
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: wide receiver seventeen. I just think the Colts role in

801
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: this game, I don't I don't understand why they're only

802
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: favored by three points Michael Pittman.

803
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: The other thing is somebody's looking ahead to my second question.

804
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I was trying to set you up here,

805
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: but the big point for me is I think we're

806
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: not giving enough respect for Michael Pittman too. I pose

807
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: this question out on Twitch in our streams earlier this

808
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: week and on YouTube live streams, and I kept asking people,

809
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: where do you think Michael Pittman Junior is ranked this

810
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: year in Fantasy points per game? Dude? He's wide receiver ten.

811
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: Like Daniel Jones is playing good. The Steelers secondary is

812
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: dog water since Week four. They're giving up the second

813
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: most receiving yards per game to perimeter wide receivers. Pittman's

814
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: gonna eat in this game, dude. So Like it's not

815
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: that I hate DK, but like Aaron Rodgers is Aaron

816
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: Rodgers right now? Like he's very limited as a quarterback.

817
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: It's all short area opportunities for DK. Colt secondary is

818
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: not good. I'm not saying that they are, but if

819
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: you were to tell me, like which guy I want

820
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: to start, it's symphatically Pittman over DK for me.

821
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: So the second question I had in this game is explained,

822
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: like I'm five, why the Colts aren't a bet of

823
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: the year level smash at minus three against Pittsburgh, Like

824
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: it is hollowekends. So maybe Daniel Jones turns back into

825
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: a pumpkin. I don't know. I just don't see any

826
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: other way where the Steelers are going to stop this offense.

827
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: Their defense has been horrible all year, and this has

828
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: been a historically great offense. So we're halfway through the season,

829
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: like again a barring Daniel Jones taking a huge step

830
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: back there, you have to give some legitimately legitimacy to

831
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: this offense at this point. Also, at the time I

832
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: put together this question, this is one of five games

833
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: with a total over fifty this week, which is a lot.

834
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: I think that might have dropped to now it's only

835
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: four games, but still that's a lot, you know, to

836
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: be at that at that level for this So they're

837
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: expecting high scoring. I just I don't get how the

838
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: Colts are gonna not win this game by a touchdown plus,

839
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: let alone just a field goal fits.

840
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Worm, you are an AFC North fan, You of

841
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 4: all people should know what it's been like with the

842
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers in the post Ben Roethlisberger era. They routinely

843
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: play up or play down to the level of their competition.

844
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 4: They win games they aren't supposed to win, and they

845
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: lose games they aren't supposed to lose. And that has

846
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: been the Mike Tomlin Steelers for the last what seven

847
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: eight years. Like, I agree that it seems like the

848
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: coult should roll in this game, but I have a

849
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: personal betting policy when a team that's somewhere between decent

850
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: to good, which like I still consider the Steelers decent,

851
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: if they lose a home game and then have another

852
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: home game the following week, I'm not betting against that team.

853
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: Like it seems like when a team lays an egg

854
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: at home then stays at home for their next game,

855
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: they come out ticked off and play a good game.

856
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: And I will sometimes try to target spots like that

857
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: case in point the Vikings earlier this year, they got

858
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: humiliated by the Falcons at home in Week two on

859
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football. The next week they hosted the Jake

860
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: Browning led Bengals, and I smashed the Vikings in that game,

861
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: and they just completely smoked the Bengals. So I'm not

862
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: gonna bet the Steelers this week because I do think

863
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: the Colts are the far better team. But I'm not

864
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: betting against the Steelers in the spot either. I'm in

865
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: a couple of pools where I have to pick every

866
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 4: game against the spread, and I have split my two

867
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 4: bets on this game in those two polls.

868
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: That's that's all fair. I don't have a lot to

869
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: push back on you against it, except to say that

870
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: I think the difference between the Steelers game and the

871
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: Steelers that have we've typically seen a under Tomlin is

872
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: that this defense is terrible, and like that defense has

873
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of led them to some of these sloppy, like

874
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: surprising closer games and you would support you expect in

875
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: the past. I just this Colts offense and this Colt

876
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Steelers defense in particular, going head to head, I do

877
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: not see how this comes out, Like I don't see

878
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: how the Colts aren't scoring thirty five points in this game.

879
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: Bro, I don't see how you're stopping the Colts. Whether

880
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: it's JT run on the ball, whether it's Pittman, whether

881
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: it's Dude, we've been waiting, all right. I don't want

882
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: to forecast, but I'm just gonna say we have been

883
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: waiting for it to percol laid up to the surface.

884
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: We have not gotten a Tyler Warren explosion game. Dude.

885
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: This is it, Like, this is the matchup versus the Steelers.

886
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: We just saw what Tucker Craft did and they've been

887
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: terrible versus tight ends the entire freaking season. This could

888
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: be the blow up game for Taal the warn.

889
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: Can I just add one last thing? So I'm looking

890
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: at the Massy Peabody Power ratings, which their ratings are

891
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 4: a pretty good way to like indicate what the point

892
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: spread should be. They have the Colts basically three points

893
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: better than the Steelers on a neutral field.

894
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: And that's really surprising.

895
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: If home field is worth two points, that's saying the

896
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 4: cult should maybe be favored by one and you're actually

897
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: getting betting value with the Steelers.

898
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: I'll surprise that. Maybe I'm just a square, but I'll

899
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: be betting on the Colts.

900
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: I'll be betting on the Colts to cover. Maybe I'm wrong,

901
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 2: and I'm probably.

902
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm also hopeful that the Colts went for selfish reasons.

903
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: So let's go to the last game in the early

904
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: slate here, Chargers at Titans. Fits who is the toughest

905
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: player to rank in this matchup?

906
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: I actually thought the Chargers were pretty easy to rank,

907
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: and then as far as the Titans, like cam Ward

908
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: is always slotting in add or near the bottom of

909
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 4: the quarterback rankings, Tony Tollard and TYJ. Spears are pretty

910
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: close to each other in running back three range for me,

911
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: the toughest player to rank in this range with Schamer Dka.

912
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 5: Over the last two weeks.

913
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 4: DK he had four catches seventy yards and a touchdown

914
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 4: against the Patriots, then seven catches for ninety three yards

915
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 4: against the Colts last week. Wide receiver eleven in PPR

916
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 4: scoring over the last two weeks, and he might be

917
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: becoming a thing like I don't want to be slow

918
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: on the draw like I was with Aronde gadst in

919
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: the second and Calvin Ridley is probably going to miss

920
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 4: a third straight game with a hamstring injury, So there

921
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: is opportunity for DK.

922
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 5: On the other hand, he's in a pretty bad offense.

923
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 4: So right now I've got him at wide receiver forty five,

924
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: but I'm thinking of maybe like sliding them up all

925
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: the way in too the top forty Like I actually

926
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: saw DK play. He was at Wisconsin for most of

927
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: his college career before he transferred to Florida for the end.

928
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 4: He was a really exceptional kick returner, and I thought

929
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: they were maybe that was sort of going to be

930
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: his primary NFL role, Like he was good as a receiver,

931
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 4: but just good, not exceptional. I thought maybe fourth or

932
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: fifth receiver kick return specialist. But I think I was

933
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: wrong about that, and I totally missed the boat on

934
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 4: him in Dynasty. Didn't get him in any rookie drafts,

935
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: even though he was routinely available, like in the fourth

936
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 4: or fifth round. So yeah, maybe smir DK is becoming

937
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: a thing.

938
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: Debra, Who was tough for you to rank in this matchup?

939
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: And I feel somewhat validated by this question because I

940
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: stared at this matchup for a while and I couldn't

941
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: think of a good angle to ask about, So I

942
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: was like, well, let me just ask who was tough

943
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: for these guys to rank, and then fitz starts off with, well,

944
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to rank all these guys and these

945
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: so I've got we were kind of on a similar

946
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: page here for you, Debro. Is there anybody that was

947
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: your questioning or you know, kind of having a little

948
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: bit of difficulty in trying to rank.

949
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: I love I love Fitzy's call out a DK like.

950
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: I was kind of back and forth on where I was.

951
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: Now I came in higher than FITZI I bumped him

952
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: up to the wide receiver thirty seven. I like the

953
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: matchup a ton. I like what he's done over the

954
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: last two weeks. The guy for me was Quentin Johnston,

955
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: and that's just it's I give the there's a possibility

956
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: where he burns me, and that's where I don't know

957
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: where to rank him at. Like, but if you look

958
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: at his usage over the last few weeks and you

959
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: look at the coverage matchup, I mean, I don't think

960
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: he's fully healthy. And I don't want to be very

961
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: clear about that. I've said that I take chargers injury

962
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: reports with an absolute grain assault. I don't believe half

963
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: of what they list there. Quintin Johnston since the hamstring injuries.

964
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: Since return of the lineup in Week seven, he has

965
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: only a six point three percent target Chare you look

966
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: at the chasm between that and his early season usage,

967
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: it's monsters, So like, I don't think he's really healthy.

968
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: The other part about this is the coverage matchup is

969
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: terrible for him, Like, even when he has been healthy,

970
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: he's not who they go to versus two high coverage

971
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: in Tennessee as bad of a secondary as they are

972
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: their third highest and too high rate. But the thing

973
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 2: that leaves the light on for me, like Quentin Johnston,

974
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: if I rank him low and I kind of bury

975
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 2: him because I don't think he's healthy, coverage matchup doesn't

976
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: go his way. The other part is Tennessee Titans, their

977
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: secondary is god awful and they're bad versus deep passing.

978
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: So it's like QJ can get there on two targets

979
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: down the field this week, But right now I've got

980
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: him at I've got him at wide receiver thirty eight,

981
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: and I'm like, is it too low? Am I crazy?

982
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: I feel like I put him at this spot in

983
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: the rankings, then he's gonna go off for two long

984
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: touchdowns and I'm gonna look like a fool. So I

985
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with QJ. But in a

986
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: lot of leagues, if I had him, I would be

987
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 2: sitting him.

988
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: Well, let me just ask you this, Steve bro on

989
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston, like, do you think it's health or do

990
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: you think like that first month is now looking like

991
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: a real outlier compared to the rest of his career

992
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: And maybe we were saying, oh, this is the breakout

993
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: and he's figured it out a little too quickly. I'm

994
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: not saying that. That's the opinion I have, and I'm

995
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: curious if you're worried about that or I'm not.

996
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: Worried about that, because I think what we saw at

997
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season was real. And the other

998
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: thing about it is you look at the coverage matchups

999
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: and stuff like, I think the lad was pressing and

1000
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: wasn't playing amazing. I think that Lad, like his reascension

1001
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: and re establishment in this offense is real as well.

1002
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: But I think we're seeing QJ fall to the wayside.

1003
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is coverage. Matchups have

1004
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: been a lot of too high over the last few games,

1005
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: and he's not healthy, so I think that's a lot

1006
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 2: of it. So people want to buy low on QJ.

1007
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: That's fine. You know it's still going to be a

1008
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: mess moving forward.

1009
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: So let's go to the late afternoon slate here, Saints

1010
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: at Rams. I think we can spend very little time

1011
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: on this one. This one hasn't even bigger spread than

1012
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: Packers Panthers does. Really, the main question, the only interesting

1013
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: angle here to me is how are you ranking Saints

1014
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: players in Tyler Schuck's first career start.

1015
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 5: Fits really no differently.

1016
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: I've got a Lave wide receiver twenty Shaheed wide receiver

1017
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: thirty seven, Jwan Johnson tight end twenty eight, and I

1018
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 4: don't want to play Alvin Kamara anymore RB twenty six.

1019
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: Like he has thirty one or fewer rushing yards in

1020
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: four straight games, one touchdown, he hasn't scored a touchdown

1021
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: since Week one, and he's had one game with more

1022
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: than thirty or more receiving yards. So I think Shuck

1023
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 4: is a more aggressive downfield thrower than Rattler was. And

1024
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 4: it seemed like Spencer Ratler was a little more conscientious

1025
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: about avoiding negative plays than Chuck is, like Saxon interception,

1026
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: and Rattler did do a good job of like mistake avoidance.

1027
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: Shuck seems like a little more of a swashbuckler, which

1028
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: could be good or bad. Like I think it nets

1029
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 4: out close to even quarterbacks who throw aggressively downfield. Generally

1030
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 4: that's good for the pass catchers. But then again, Saxon

1031
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 4: interceptions are drive killers and take snaps and targets away

1032
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: from our pass catchers. So I'm seeing this as kind

1033
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: of a push.

1034
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: De Bro, You're the biggest Tyler Schuck fan.

1035
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: I know.

1036
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: I love that you set that up that way. Oh

1037
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: my gosh, I mean I'm dropping the guys. You guys, dude.

1038
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: Saints all last year you were like, suck for Shuck.

1039
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: This is should be the first pick in the draft.

1040
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: Gosh, man, what in the shuck are we doing here?

1041
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: I just I don't understand what Rattler did to lose

1042
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: the job. Like, I'm not saying he's played well or amazing,

1043
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: but he hasn't played.

1044
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: I can tell you what he did. He got drafted

1045
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: in the fifth round. That's it. If they were drafted.

1046
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Have you seen draft capital, Like, I don't think Ratler

1047
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: did anything.

1048
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Believe I just, dude, Tyler shuck. No, I just did

1049
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: to Fitzy's point. Yeah, he's he's a gun slinger, but

1050
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: he's got a pop gun he's got he's shooting blanks, dude. Like,

1051
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: I know, I think he's gonna sit here and try

1052
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: to pull some crazy moves out of his bag. But

1053
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm lower on the guys. One, it's the matchup,

1054
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: but two, Yeah, like, I just don't know. I mean

1055
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: last week, and I know it's a small sample. I

1056
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: know it's his first game. I know all this stuff.

1057
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: This guy had an accurate thrower rate of forty three percent.

1058
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: He had a catchable target rate of sixty five percent. Like,

1059
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: those things are incredibly concerning because if you can't even

1060
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 2: deliver catchable targets with the guys, they can't catch the ball,

1061
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: they can't score Fantasy points. So, you know, versus consensus,

1062
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm falling on these guys because

1063
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at ECR yet. But Chris Olive, I've

1064
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: got at wide receiver twenty eight. I've got rashieti heat

1065
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: a wide receiver forty two.

1066
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: I'll plull up the consensus here quickly. Yeah, Alave is okay, Yeah,

1067
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 1: Alave's wide receiver twenty in ECRT twenty. It's wide receiver

1068
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: twenty and ECR heat is thirty seven twenty.

1069
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy because that's a wide receiver two. I no,

1070
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: I can't do that. I can't do that.

1071
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,640
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Speaker 1: and Android. Next game Jaguars at Raiders. Initially my question

1079
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: was about rookie receivers getting the post by bump. Expectations

1080
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: for Travis Hunter. He's coming off the best game of

1081
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: his career right before the bye week fourteen targets, eight catches,

1082
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: one hundred one yards and a touchdown. We are expectations

1083
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: for this week and the rest of the season. And

1084
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: then ten minutes before we started recording, he was placed

1085
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: on ir so he will miss at least four games.

1086
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: He had a knee injury suffered at practice. I believe

1087
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: it was on Thursday. He suffered that knee injury, so

1088
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: this is a huge bummer. Having said that, we have

1089
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: to obviously pivot the conversation here because it's not even

1090
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: like we can't just ask about this week. This is

1091
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: four games, is week nine, ten, eleven, twelve, Week thirteen

1092
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: is the earliest he can be back, So and maybe

1093
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: by the time you're listening to this, it'll be more

1094
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: information about the length of this recovery and what they

1095
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: expect there. But with Travis Hunter not there deeper, I'll

1096
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: start with you, any interest in bumping up Brian Thomas

1097
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Junior despite his struggles this year? Yep, is Parker Washington

1098
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 1: the guy, like, what are you doing with this offense

1099
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: without Travis Hunter?

1100
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: I'm bumping up BTCH, and I think this is a

1101
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: good spot for him to get right. Like since Week four,

1102
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 2: the Raiders secondary has given up the eighth most PPR

1103
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: points per target to promoter wide receivers in the ninth

1104
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: most receiving yards per game. I'm not scared about any

1105
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: of their corners. That run defense has actually been much

1106
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: improved of the last few games, so I don't think

1107
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: Travis et is gonna have a lot of room to

1108
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: rumble in this, so BTJ, I do think we're gonna

1109
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: get a bounce back game with Hunter now hitting the ir.

1110
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: Fits.

1111
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, where are you going to put him? Debra O?

1112
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: Good question, Like I could see high end wide receiver two.

1113
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: He's wide receiver nineteen right now. But of course this

1114
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: hasn't you know, started to fully update from wide receiver.

1115
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm fitsy live right now. I'm bumping him from wide

1116
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: receiver twenty to wide receiver fifteen.

1117
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna put him at thirteen.

1118
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's about right in between Pittman and Metcalf.

1119
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 5: I don't know, do we.

1120
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 4: Is Parker Washington a thing or is it like Dmy

1121
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 4: Brown who's gonna like benefit too.

1122
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: I think probably Parker just because he's been targeted more.

1123
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna have to dive back into it for

1124
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: the primer. So my first initially would be Parker Washington

1125
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: because the Army's kind of been a ghost over the

1126
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: last few weeks. But I could be wrong after go

1127
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: back to look it up.

1128
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just a bummer about Travis Hunter. But the

1129
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: usage bump that we saw for him in the rams,

1130
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: and I was anxious to see whether that was just

1131
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: because the Rams were winning big and the Jaguars were

1132
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: in chase mode in that London game, you know, thirty

1133
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 4: five to seven blot and Travis Hunter gets fourteen targets.

1134
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: I thought he might be able to make a serious

1135
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: push though, and unfortunately we're gonna have to wait to

1136
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: find out.

1137
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: Side note on this, all those btj's trade rumors that

1138
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: that ain't happening now now would Hunter out?

1139
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: Nope, Let's go to Chiefs at Bills obviously one of

1140
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: the games of the year. This is one that everybody

1141
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: circles when it. You know, the schedule drops in May

1142
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: every year really never disappoints, whether it's regular season or postseason,

1143
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: these games are always so I'll just keep this one simple.

1144
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: Fits pick one player who's ranked too high in this

1145
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: matchup in consensus rankings, and one player who is ranked

1146
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 1: too low.

1147
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 4: All right, I'll start with the too low Rashi Rice

1148
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: ECR wide verse six, Wide receiver six. I haven't met

1149
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 4: wide receiver four. It's already been pretty heavily involved in

1150
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: his first two games back sixteen catches on nineteen targets

1151
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 4: plus two rushing attempts, heavy red zone usage. So yeah,

1152
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 4: wide receiver four too high. I'm a little below consensus

1153
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: on Bershard Smith, and I am starting to think that

1154
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: maybe the opportunity we think Burshard has as the Chiefs

1155
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 4: primary pass catching back.

1156
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 5: Might be a mirage.

1157
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 4: And why do I think that it's It's because of

1158
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: Rashi Rice. Like Rice is a short area receiver. His

1159
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 4: averaged up the target for his career it's four point

1160
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: six yards this year, two point four yards in two games.

1161
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: And with Chiefs head coach Andy Reid using Rice on

1162
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 4: all the short stuff, there's just not much need for

1163
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: a running back to catch a lot of passes out

1164
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 4: of the backfield for this team. So like in Rice's

1165
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: first game back, Smith did have a season I five

1166
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 4: catches for forty two yards, but Rice only played forty

1167
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 4: one percent of the snaps. Smith played the highest snap

1168
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: count of the season twenty eight because the Chiefs were

1169
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 4: winning in a blot over the Raiders, and I think

1170
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 4: the blowout was kind of why he got snaps and targets.

1171
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 4: Then last week Rice was back to eighty six percent

1172
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: of the snaps. Rashard Smith played nine offensive snaps and

1173
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 4: saw zero targets. I just I think the presence of

1174
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 4: Rashie Rice might keep Richard Smith from becoming a thing.

1175
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: Debra, same question. One player too high, one player too low.

1176
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: Fitzia, I love you so fricking much. I toyed with

1177
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: the idea of bringing up Rashi Rice so much. I

1178
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: love that you let off with that. And just for

1179
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: everybody out there, in the two games that Rashie Rice

1180
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: has been back, he is the wide receiver one in

1181
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: Fantasy points per game. He has averaged twenty four point

1182
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: four PPR points per game. So if he keeps that, like, yes,

1183
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 2: we are ranking him too low. But the other guy

1184
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: I'll mention here is I think we're too high on

1185
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman, and I know he's at wide receiver forty

1186
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: five after week two. Here's his weekly finishes wide receiver

1187
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: seventy six, sixty nine, fifty.

1188
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 5: Oh.

1189
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: Look there's forty three, seventy six, and fifty seven and

1190
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: the coverage matchup is horrible for him. The Chiefs had

1191
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: the six highest too high rate against too high if

1192
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: you take out the first week, which is a massive outlier.

1193
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: For the rest of the season for Keon Coleman, he

1194
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: has the sixteen percent target per route run rate and

1195
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: zero point nine to five yards per route run against

1196
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: too high Keon Coleman, he's out. He's gonna be outside

1197
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: my top fifty.

1198
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I want to ask a second question in this game,

1199
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: just because it's such a fun game just betting it.

1200
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City is laying two points in Buffalo. The total

1201
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: it was fifty two. It's actually up to fifty two

1202
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: and a half on hard Rock bet. How are you

1203
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: betting those numbers? De Bro?

1204
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm staying away from the freaking spread, and I'm actually

1205
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to take the under on this man,

1206
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: Like I think, like I just get a feel in

1207
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: this game, like when this is also again fifty talks

1208
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: about betting rules, like when we get these totals up

1209
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: in the fifties, there's so much that can go wrong

1210
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: on these things, and so I actually, if I if

1211
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm staying away from both of them, but if I

1212
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: had to bet one of these as an official bet,

1213
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: I'd take the under on the total.

1214
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: Fits.

1215
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Debro.

1216
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 4: I'm staying away from the total though I don't think

1217
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: it's going to disappoint with regard to scoring. But if

1218
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 4: you want to give me the Buffalo Bills as a

1219
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: home underdog, that is an auto bet for me, I

1220
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: am betting the Bills.

1221
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 5: Nice.

1222
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: Let's go to Sunday night football here, Seahawks at Commanders.

1223
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: How are you guys approaching the Seattle backfield coming out

1224
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: of the by? Where are Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharbonay ranked?

1225
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: For you guys, respectively? Fits starting with you.

1226
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 4: I have Walker running back twenty three, Charbonay running back

1227
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: twenty eight. It's just a messy split, and I should

1228
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 4: probably have them right next to each other, but I

1229
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: just think Walker is the better player.

1230
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: Debra, I legit have them back to back at twenty

1231
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: three and twenty four. It's dude, Ken Walker's season has

1232
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: been just capsized, but by the fact that he's not

1233
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: getting any red zone usage. It's all the touchdowns that

1234
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: is propping up Zach Charbonay, and it's all not scoring

1235
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: any touchdowns for Kenneth Walker. That's crushing him. Man Like

1236
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: he's RB forty two since Week four, He's RB forty

1237
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: two and Fantasy points per game because he's not scoring

1238
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: any touchdowns. He's not getting any Dude. He has only

1239
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: eight of twenty three possible red zone carries right now.

1240
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: It's it's horrible and he is clearly the more efficient player.

1241
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: I wish somebody in the media for Seattle would ask

1242
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: the coaching staff why are you deploying the backfield the

1243
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: way that you are and in the manner that you are,

1244
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: because I would be fascinated to hear the answer, Like,

1245
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand it when you look at both of

1246
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: these guys and you clearly can turn on the film

1247
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: and one of them is clearly out playing in the other.

1248
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: But we get in the red zone and it's like, nah,

1249
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna get the ball to Sharps.

1250
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: KENNETHA. Walker is RB twenty three and Zach Sharvinae is

1251
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: RB twenty eight in the consensus ranking, So they're both

1252
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: in that annoying range of difficult decision to make here.

1253
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: I think Seattle wins this game prehandedly, so I'm hoping

1254
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: that they both get a lot of opportunities with the

1255
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks having a lead. We'll see if that actually ends

1256
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: up panning out that way, but I think Seattle's going

1257
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: to win this game kind of running away, so hopefully

1258
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: that means good points for both of them. I think

1259
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: we can move on to Monday Night Football here. Last

1260
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: game on the Slate, Cardinals at Cowboys. This is the

1261
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: highest total of the week. It is at fifty four

1262
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: on hard Rock bet is the total, which is enormous,

1263
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: and I was surprised that it was higher than Chiefs Bills. Honestly,

1264
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: if I forced you guys to pick one Arizona Cardinal

1265
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: to rank extra aggressively this week, who would you pick?

1266
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: And we'll start with you, Debro.

1267
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Bam Night man. And this is not

1268
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: because I love Bam Knight. This is because the Cowboys cannot.

1269
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: One of the greatest tricks the Green Bay Packers have

1270
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: ever pulled on anybody, and the history of mankind was

1271
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: convincing Jerry Jones that Kenny Clark could be the reason

1272
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 3: that their run defense could be better, because it's been

1273
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 3: wondrous to see.

1274
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: Because they're still terrible. The Cowboys run defense is still

1275
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: got awful. Like they're giving up the fourth most rushing

1276
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: arts per game, the second highest explosive run rate. I

1277
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: could rattle off every single statistic that freaking matters for

1278
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: run defenses, and the Cowboys are bottom twelve and all

1279
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: of them. So, if you're telling me we're living in

1280
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: a world where Bam Knight goes for one hundred yards

1281
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: and he gets two touchdowns. I will not be surprised.

1282
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: I think the touchdown equity is more of what I'd

1283
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: lean on here and right now, I've got him at

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Speaker 2: RB nineteen. If you tell me he finishes the week

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Speaker 2: as a top fifteen running back, I would.

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Speaker 1: Not be shocked, Fitz. I know we discussed night a

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Speaker 1: little bit yesterday on the Thursday Show with you, me

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Speaker 1: and Jake Seely already. Would he have been your pick

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Speaker 1: year as well?

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Speaker 4: He would have been my pick to well, I suppose

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Speaker 4: you probably would not let me take Trey McBride. As

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Speaker 4: far as ranking extra aggressively, I was.

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Speaker 1: Gonna ask, how aggressively can you the number one tight Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: No more aggressively than number one, So I guess that's impossible.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could rank him aggressively in flex rankings,

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Speaker 1: not that you would be starting him at tight end regardless,

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Speaker 1: but you could make the case like, oh, I have

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Speaker 1: him ranked, you know, top twenty in flex or something

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Speaker 1: like that. If you wanted to make the case, I'll

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Speaker 1: allow it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, it's Bam knight.

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Speaker 4: And maybe he's more of a lead back this week

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Speaker 4: than a timeshare guy and if he's the lead back

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Speaker 4: in this matchup against a Dallas defense that's given up

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Speaker 4: the fifth most rushing yards and fourth most Fantasy points

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Speaker 4: to running backs, then yeah, he might have a chance

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Speaker 4: at an RB one finish.

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Speaker 1: Where did you say you ranking him fits?

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Speaker 4: So right now I've got him at RB nineteen, But

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Speaker 4: I have been thinking about moving him ahead of JK.

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Speaker 4: Dobbins and Travis Etn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's right call moving them up right now. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Bam Knight versus jam and Warren FITZI.

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Speaker 5: I'm still gonna warn ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting conversation him and Jamen Warren

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Speaker 2: and Kareem Hunt That that sentence made me feel like

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Speaker 2: I wanted to throw up.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what would be interesting fits to

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Speaker 1: circle back to an earlier conversation, Bam Night or Travon

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Speaker 1: Henderson if rom andres.

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Speaker 4: Out, Yeah, probably Bam, just because I don't know what

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Speaker 4: the Jennings just kind of a wild card there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the Patriots, Mike Rabel says, Hi, Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: go ahead and wrap things up there.

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Speaker 1: Bestive luck to everybody here in week nine. And if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this and it's still Friday. Definitely enjoy Halloween.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun, rare opportunity when you get a holiday

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Speaker 1: on a Friday or Saturday, so go take advantage. If

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Speaker 1: you are so inclined for Debro slash Lex Luthor and

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Speaker 1: Fitz Slash Slash the Wrestler, I'm Ryan Warmway slash Clark Kent.

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