Speaker 1: R and B Money.
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Speaker 1: We don't take it.
Speaker 2: There, listen, brother, Yeah, we've been doing this man a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 1: Long time, long long long time, long.
Speaker 2: Time since Papa John's Beason with the garlic dippers up, you.
Speaker 1: Know, long long time, the whole back at back at
Speaker 1: the new time on the about the railroad tracks. Man,
Speaker 1: long long time.
Speaker 2: We need a Papa John's partnership. Won't be out here
Speaker 2: your shout niggas.
Speaker 1: Hey shot, Papa John, come on with shout this baby.
Speaker 1: How you been man? Hey man?
Speaker 2: Blessed bro Yeah, blessed and hally favor every every time
Speaker 2: I scroll past your page, Man, you smile and you're
Speaker 2: making some music. You living your life. You're enjoying yourself,
Speaker 2: and that's what that's that's what I know about. Jes
Speaker 2: gona have a good time, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I've had many a good time. When you better have
Speaker 2: a good time, when you you better have a good
Speaker 2: time when you with him? What if God says talk
Speaker 2: about it, talk about that.
Speaker 1: Your gifts will make room for and that didn't that
Speaker 1: just see that, man, like, look at y'all. Look at y'all, man,
Speaker 1: look like y'all could be doing y'all first projects. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that about you like a youngster. But that's
Speaker 1: your gift making room. The Lord is preserved, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Time people don't look at it like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right? Yeah, And sometimes we
Speaker 1: forget you know what I mean? But when you go
Speaker 1: to your class reunions. He sometimes get reminded. You'd be like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute.
Speaker 3: Hold, but we were the same.
Speaker 1: We was in the eleventh grade together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, man, we lived some good life. It
Speaker 2: was just you were sustained for I'm blessed. We're blessed,
Speaker 2: sustained for a reason. We we are designed. Our design
Speaker 2: is something different. Yeah, you know, I mean, and so
Speaker 2: what has been given to us is the the the
Speaker 2: favor within our appearance. Mmmmm okay, so that so that
Speaker 2: we we never die.
Speaker 1: My mom always say favorite ain't fair.
Speaker 2: Baby, ain't fair. I mean, talking about certain things. She'd
Speaker 2: be like, she just cut me off and be like,
Speaker 2: favorite ain't fair. Say you, yeah, not everybody time your time,
Speaker 2: you hear me. Yeah, and you and you've and you've
Speaker 2: had your time for quite some time.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, listen, listen. I love when you got to step.
Speaker 1: In away at them sun rays. Just gotta I learned
Speaker 1: how to, you know. I stood on the on the
Speaker 1: set with Diddy and all them guys and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He made it fashionable to push people out the way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that a cool way,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, sip hop excuse me,
Speaker 1: but you better do something cool when you when you yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's your time. Yeah Yeah, let's do this.
Speaker 2: Jack. You know you have a you have a rich history.
Speaker 2: Hey man, your history started before you was even in
Speaker 2: the womb. Oh you hear me, You understand I'm saying
Speaker 2: you hear me. I want to get into some of
Speaker 2: your your rich history, like go back to the beginning
Speaker 2: where this is, Where does all this come from? All
Speaker 2: that is the very.
Speaker 1: Origin for for you guys that you know, for modern
Speaker 1: day to give it to y'all in the modern day,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's a blessing that I can even
Speaker 1: do that and make y'all get it. I started right before,
Speaker 1: probably a couple of years before got got no not,
Speaker 1: got not. I am bened swag bood do do do
Speaker 1: That bass player is my daddy. That's my dad. My
Speaker 1: dad is the leader of the Barcas, the legendary the
Speaker 1: legendary Barcades. And he was seventeen years old at the
Speaker 1: time when he played on that record and they played
Speaker 1: I think that that live on YouTube. You can go
Speaker 1: look at it Otis Redding. The Barcas were the house
Speaker 1: band for Stax Records, and so when you had a
Speaker 1: new artist come up, the Barcades would play behind them.
Speaker 1: And Otis was like, I want the Barcas to be
Speaker 1: my band. Yes, said my dad. Team, Yes they were
Speaker 1: the band. They were the band. Now. Tragically, the Barcads
Speaker 1: passed away in a plane crash before I was born,
Speaker 1: minus my pop. He did not get on that plane.
Speaker 1: He was the odd man out. They were on a
Speaker 1: private plane and they were going into Madison, Wisconsin somewhere
Speaker 1: and they crashed in that in that water. And one
Speaker 1: member uh survived the crash was Ben Carley, who was
Speaker 1: one of my godfathers. I got several godfathers. I got
Speaker 1: a few of them, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was a trumpet player. He survived, but he was never
Speaker 1: the same. But one other guy who was my dad's
Speaker 1: best friend besides Otis Redding, who passed in the playing
Speaker 1: crash as well. His name was Failing Jones. I'm failing Alexander.
Speaker 1: I was named after Failing Jones, who was my dad
Speaker 1: and my mom's best friend. Yeah. So yeah, so he
Speaker 1: started that's where That's where man, that's where it started.
Speaker 1: It started like that, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know later on, you know,
Speaker 1: mom and mom and dad had Finzel, you know.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't the only huh. But Pops wasn't the
Speaker 2: only side with the music though, No Mom was.
Speaker 1: Mom was on it too. She sang with, She sang
Speaker 1: with a lot of different people. She sang with Philip
Speaker 1: Bailey and when he had his gospel the Living Epistles.
Speaker 1: She sang with d J Rogers, Billy Preston, uhh, Charlie
Speaker 1: Wilson got banned, all of them and several others. Man,
Speaker 1: give me, give give me the samp for your mama's own.
Speaker 1: Oh uh uh siyy When you hear that, uh, I
Speaker 1: don't know my mama singing on that, yeah that And
Speaker 1: then you might heard she's also singing on the Common
Speaker 1: record Fame to the what Yeah, that's that's the DJ Rogers,
Speaker 1: That's that's my mama. And I'm singing, yes you heard
Speaker 1: that one? To come on, man, they had me in
Speaker 1: those places. I've been sitting up there when when Michael
Speaker 1: McDonald was telling Kenny Logers to sing it again. You
Speaker 1: were there yes, yes, No, it's like you think that
Speaker 1: maybe it's so singing to it again. Yeah, you the
Speaker 1: little boy in the studio and the cut my mama's hip.
Speaker 2: How old are you? You're on the hip? Okay, on
Speaker 2: the hip. So you absorbing? Yeah, absorbing a sponge.
Speaker 1: I was sliding. I was sliding faders at seven eight
Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, that's a bar because I was sliding.
Speaker 1: I was sliding faders. I was sliding. I'll tell these
Speaker 1: cats all the time when when they try to like
Speaker 1: block me out the studio or something, I was like, boy,
Speaker 1: I was in the studio for you was allowed to
Speaker 1: go in when they told you this, probably slap your
Speaker 1: hand and tell you don't touch that. Yeah, you already
Speaker 1: knew how to work it right. Cats my age though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, No, you wasn't in
Speaker 1: the studio when I was in the studio. I've been
Speaker 1: in the studio though, So when did it hit you?
Speaker 1: When did?
Speaker 2: I mean, of course you're in the studio with the faders,
Speaker 2: you're absorbing it. You're seeing it from both sides, and
Speaker 2: it's in Memphis.
Speaker 1: Well, I wasn't raised in Memphis. I was born in Memphis.
Speaker 1: My mom and dad separated early when I was like four,
Speaker 1: and I moved my mom my mo.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: My grandmother was living in in Inglewood in California. So
Speaker 1: and my cousin was also living there. My cousin, Paula,
Speaker 1: she she lived there not too far from my grandmother
Speaker 1: and she was working for Castle Blank of Records. And
Speaker 1: my mom she went out there, you know, because they
Speaker 1: they out there. My my uh, my grandmother was hanging
Speaker 1: out with Harol Melvin and the Blue Notes at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, yea, yeah, moving away.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying to you is that it's not
Speaker 1: on yeah, baby, it's seeing me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Used to dance on Soul Train. We was that. We
Speaker 1: was that. So you were raised where? Yeah, in l A.
Speaker 1: Mostly mostly in California, but back and forth because you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I used to go back to in the summer time
Speaker 1: with Pop and my dad. My dad was in Memphis.
Speaker 1: My dad was in Memphis, so you know, with the Barcades,
Speaker 1: I go on the road with the Barcades, and he
Speaker 1: knew it was in me, so he takes me with him.
Speaker 1: I be on the hip. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so me and my brother, you know, we'd be back
Speaker 1: and forth. And when did you start tinkering? Man?
Speaker 2: Probably in high school? Yeah, in high school.
Speaker 1: L A talent shows high school in uh rialto California.
Speaker 2: Okay, I went to Eisenhower, Bro, you I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I also as I also went to Loveland Church. Hey, bro,
Speaker 2: watch when the watch when the IV brothers see this
Speaker 2: and they realized.
Speaker 1: Then this I know the mighty o t Listen, look California.
Speaker 1: You know he gets come on dog. I mean, but
Speaker 1: I was still I'm still on Memphis, but I'm still Cali. Still,
Speaker 1: I'm all over. That's what thus you got the you
Speaker 1: know the shizzle. So that's why you get the you
Speaker 1: know the Cali side. You know, me just running into
Speaker 1: everybody along the way, from Snoop Dogg to you know
Speaker 1: to you know, all of these guys. But when I
Speaker 1: came back to Memphis, I got a record deal. I
Speaker 1: got a record deal in ninety one, singing Yes with Well,
Speaker 1: Singing and rapt with Electric Records with Doug Daniels over
Speaker 1: there Electric Records, and probably a year after I dropped
Speaker 1: a single. Year after during that single, Bob kras Now
Speaker 1: who was the CEO. He passed away. That's when they
Speaker 1: brought in Ruber ro Reguez. Wait, so are you Jazzy Fayette? No,
Speaker 1: I was. I was failing l o n Failing. That
Speaker 1: was my performance name when I when I did my
Speaker 1: first show, Bust of Rhymes and dink O d and
Speaker 1: all of them dudes came in a super room all
Speaker 1: like they was like they jumped out of a damn
Speaker 1: clown car. They all got out of the car and
Speaker 1: came to my my video shoot in New York because
Speaker 1: I did shoot in New York at the time, and
Speaker 1: so I did my first video. It was like yo,
Speaker 1: failing yo beat, you know, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That was the first time I see the spliff, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he's like, y'all my
Speaker 1: label mates be you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 1: was like that, like since back then, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And Keith Sweat was on the label King
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think and Touch record was out at
Speaker 1: the time to hype to put on my best I
Speaker 1: can't believe that she said in Sweat right there. I
Speaker 1: think that was his group, wasn't it. He's had something
Speaker 1: I got yeah, sweat l something I was. I would
Speaker 1: remember when Derrick Daniels and then called Keith and saying, hey, Bro,
Speaker 1: you a star. You gotta you gotta quit working at
Speaker 1: the at the stock Market. I remember that conversation when
Speaker 1: he called my daddy and told him what he had
Speaker 1: to tell. Keith said, Man, you don't have to tell
Speaker 1: Keith Man he had had to quit that job. Keep
Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't quit my job. Baby.
Speaker 2: He's still on Wall Street still to this day. Hey,
Speaker 2: j called me after that. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's seven o'clock. When that seven clock here, baby,
Speaker 2: you know I be on that. He's not playing, He's
Speaker 2: not playing.
Speaker 1: No, he diligent about that bag. Still about that bag?
Speaker 1: Love Keith. So first singles.
Speaker 2: I've been doing Keith since then. So first singles out,
Speaker 2: first singles out? Okay, what's going on? Is he?
Speaker 1: When?
Speaker 2: When?
Speaker 1: When? The when? The when? The record it was moderate
Speaker 1: I was on my second single. I think Mark the
Speaker 1: forty five King remixed it. You heard so he remixed it.
Speaker 1: This is this is my head is spinning, bro. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I got him now. So so at the
Speaker 1: time when when Bob Krasno passed like that's the original.
Speaker 1: That was his record mark, the forty five King and Love.
Speaker 1: You know, he grabbed it. But the I got, I
Speaker 1: got dropped from the label because you know, anybody who
Speaker 1: wouldn't sell five hundred the better was dropped because the new,
Speaker 1: the new reign is coming in. I was on. I
Speaker 1: was on an independent label which my dad was also
Speaker 1: like head of promotions, which I moved back to Memphis
Speaker 1: to come and join the label, you know, and and
Speaker 1: my dad helped me get my deal over the lecture,
Speaker 1: so I didn't I no longer had a deal, but
Speaker 1: we had a studio. We had a studio, and the
Speaker 1: record label was called Mega Jam Records. Mega Jam Records. Uh.
Speaker 1: Terry Stocks was the was the CEO at the time.
Speaker 1: He was a street cat turn honest, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he was hanging around Penny Hardaway at
Speaker 1: the time. I remember when Penny Hardaway had got it
Speaker 1: to some stuff and he got shot in his foot.
Speaker 1: No no, yeah, I don't know, and they didn't want
Speaker 1: him around. They didn't want him around. And and then
Speaker 1: you know Niga in the foot right right when he
Speaker 1: was going to Trailwell, you know what I'm saying high school,
Speaker 1: in high school. In high school, yep, yep. He was
Speaker 1: my It was a it was, you know, freak accident
Speaker 1: type thing that was trying to rob Terry's liquor store.
Speaker 1: But he had he had Penny with him. He was
Speaker 1: always with him, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
Speaker 1: you always got a guy in the street, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know, helping, helping out. So I
Speaker 1: was there, you know what I'm saying. When Penny was
Speaker 1: in there, you know, and had tread well on fire
Speaker 1: and you could breathing room only in there, and and
Speaker 1: Spike Lea show up breathing room he had. They was
Speaker 1: winning every game. They was winning every game. He come
Speaker 1: flying from downtown, you know what I mean. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he had a studio, Terror Starks had a studio. And
Speaker 1: when I went back to the studio, I noticed that
Speaker 1: none of the people that were there, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't know about budgets, and you know, I wasn't there
Speaker 1: for the business. I was just there for the creativity part.
Speaker 1: And so when I got back, I'm like, nobody's coming
Speaker 1: to the studio calling people, ain't ask in the phone.
Speaker 1: And his little white kid named Mike Patterson. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you'll ever met Mike. He used to work
Speaker 1: for bad Boy and then he went to Niners Nails
Speaker 1: and I don't know where he is now, but Mike
Speaker 1: Patterson was like our little house in in there and
Speaker 1: he was sitting there reading a book or something, and
Speaker 1: he said, Jazzy, the reason why people aren't coming is
Speaker 1: because the money's gone, said, the money's gone. But guess
Speaker 1: what have you heard that music without you? I was
Speaker 1: like Noah. He was like, man, it doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: it does when you're around. That's because you've been producing
Speaker 1: it the whole time. You're just not programming it. You're
Speaker 1: not programming it. So like Quincy Jones, he goes in
Speaker 1: and he produces his records and he orchestrates it. That's
Speaker 1: the same thing you do, he said, but now it's
Speaker 1: just you. So you just needed to get on this
Speaker 1: NPC and learn and get get down with. Sliced T
Speaker 1: was one of my mentors, Excepted was my same age.
Speaker 1: Arnold Hennings was on our staff. Arnold Hennings made cupe
Speaker 1: it really yeah. Arnold Hennings was Yeah, he did cup it.
Speaker 1: He was one of the first people out of our
Speaker 1: crew to sign a deal. He signed a deal with
Speaker 1: Dallas Austin and made it. Made me look like Dang
Speaker 1: that boy that went to Atlanta and just went crazy.
Speaker 1: He's over there with Timmy Bob and was on fire.
Speaker 1: It was working on he worked on. He worked on
Speaker 1: the Boys and Boys, the men house, all that keyboard work.
Speaker 1: That's Arnold.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dang guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm going to Jack the Rapper. Come on,
Speaker 1: I went to Jack the Rapper. So I'm at Jack
Speaker 1: the Rapper and I see, I see Diddy. I seen Diddy.
Speaker 1: He had on these big old He had the big
Speaker 1: Bobby brown pants, some pat leathers, no socks, a Pokadont
Speaker 1: shirt button all the way to the top, and a
Speaker 1: briefcase and he had a he had a little a
Speaker 1: small little briefcase then you know, the one like your
Speaker 1: big one. He opened it up and he had he
Speaker 1: had a card. He said, he said, my name is
Speaker 1: Puff Daddy. He said, if you want to be with
Speaker 1: the next generation of bad motherfuckers, come over the uptown
Speaker 1: m That's how he was introducing and he walked off.
Speaker 1: He walked off. The next time he saw me, I
Speaker 1: was on stage I was on stage and he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I want to sign you the bad Boy. I want
Speaker 1: to sign you the bad Boy. I got a new
Speaker 1: label called bad Boy. That was the next year, and
Speaker 1: and I and when I got to the door, it
Speaker 1: was it was this kid. He had on he had
Speaker 1: on the pumps. I was like, who, come, where you
Speaker 1: get them pumps from? Because I knew nobody had the pumps.
Speaker 1: It was Dallas Austin. I was there, was like, my
Speaker 1: boy said, hey, that's that Charles Farrar. Charles Farrar and
Speaker 1: Troy Taylor, they were the characters. They were the characters.
Speaker 1: And Bernard Alexander.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 1: They was like, come on, y'all, y'all come through this door. Man. Hey.
Speaker 1: I remember him saying, hey, man, you gotta let these
Speaker 1: guys in, these of the young telling these young talented cats.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, ain't got no passes, but
Speaker 1: letting me in. Let him go get some credentials, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He said, you know this Dallas Austin. Man,
Speaker 1: it's the boy that did he miss the DJ song.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I heard you song like twenty
Speaker 1: times a day. You know what I'm saying. I was like,
Speaker 1: and I started saying, hey, mister DJ, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's I mean Dallas Austin. So me and
Speaker 1: Dallas stuck together him sneaking and everything that weekend. He
Speaker 1: didn't have no credentials neither. No, we snuck in Jack
Speaker 1: the Rapper. Wow, we stuck in Jack the Rapper. I
Speaker 1: mean my dad had credentials. But he was like, come on,
Speaker 1: you be night right. You know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: when they leave you, then they try to play you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: I mean that was it. I mean I came back.
Speaker 1: I had a group called the Fulcoholics in Memphis. We
Speaker 1: were just local in Memphis. We did a few things.
Speaker 1: We had a great performance though Todd Day. Todd Day
Speaker 1: basketball player, Tod Day, I think he was playing with
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Mavericks at the time. It just got
Speaker 1: his deal. You had big bank. Todd Day was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you need to go to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You're always talking about you gonna go to Atlanta. Need
Speaker 1: to go to Atlanta and don't come back until you
Speaker 1: get down and make it like all right. And my manager,
Speaker 1: Carolyn Carolyn. She was like, yo, I said, we're going
Speaker 1: to Let's go to Atlanta. She's like, I hain't bad.
Speaker 1: I know people out there. So we get out there,
Speaker 1: we get down to the last dollar. She bust out
Speaker 1: and says, I know mc breed hm hmm. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know m C bread in the future in your
Speaker 1: front man, take me to mc breed right now. F
Speaker 1: C Bree says, oh, so you you jazzy Faye Huh.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, he said, let me let me hear
Speaker 1: what you got, b I got. I got the Nike
Speaker 1: box I got, I got, I got this, I got
Speaker 1: the uh the floppy disc, I got the DATS I got.
Speaker 1: I think I even had a couple of CDs. I
Speaker 1: think CDs was coming new to the game. That was
Speaker 1: new to the game. I had a couple of thom
Speaker 1: So he says, show me what you got. So I
Speaker 1: played a couple of joints. I played one joint. First joint.
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, you did that. I was like,
Speaker 1: I played the second one. He said you did that.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah. He said, what, play me another one.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, did that. He was like yeah, he said, man,
Speaker 1: what y'all doing tomorrow. Then Man, me and Carolyn looked
Speaker 1: at each other. Then he said, so, how long y'all
Speaker 1: gonna be in town? We looked at each other again.
Speaker 1: She pulled her to the side. Then he came back
Speaker 1: and he told his boy. He said, hey, man, go
Speaker 1: to my house, get that room across from my room,
Speaker 1: clean it out and let them stay in that room
Speaker 1: in my house. And can't and George first first time,
Speaker 1: right like right now, went to the house when we
Speaker 1: got when he got done with the session, I stayed
Speaker 1: at the session until he got done. We got in
Speaker 1: the car, I went got my stuff and came to
Speaker 1: his house with all my stuff and I moved in
Speaker 1: there and from there I met too Short Eric Simon.
Speaker 1: She hooked it up, you know, she hooked it up,
Speaker 1: Uh red Man method Man, Snoop Dogg, d OC linked
Speaker 1: the Snoop Dogg and Warren G and everybody, Keith Sweat
Speaker 1: through mc B. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She put me on shout out to Man and you
Speaker 2: programming and everything at this time. Yeah, you're doing the
Speaker 2: whole thing. I'm going stupid, stupid, I'm going stupid.
Speaker 1: This was pre show enough though, this is before holding
Speaker 1: the club show.
Speaker 2: Not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to that. Yeah, that's my ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was before that. That was before any of my
Speaker 1: R and B records. I think I was doing some
Speaker 1: remixes for for for Eric and he was like Eric,
Speaker 1: Eric Simon was the first person to give me a
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars check. He was like, yo, I want
Speaker 1: she got it. I want you to come here and
Speaker 1: just give me something for this, for this, for this,
Speaker 1: I want something for this right here. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm done. He's like, yo, B I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: even home yet. What was going on? I'm done. He
Speaker 1: was like, man, let me see what I see what
Speaker 1: it sounds like, bro, because I mean you're done. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, send him back. He was like yo,
Speaker 1: he said, man, I got you, Bro, you have me
Speaker 1: old his house.
Speaker 2: So at this point, is anybody that you're working with
Speaker 2: know what you come from?
Speaker 1: A connected guys go. We kind of talk about it,
Speaker 1: we talk about it. They find out, you know, you're
Speaker 1: not really wearing that though. No, no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: do that. I don't do that, you know. But but
Speaker 1: but with Eric, I do because I know he's the
Speaker 1: feast musical. I know any time I dug those because
Speaker 1: I know they'll they'll dial in somewhere and say what
Speaker 1: they want. They were like, hey, yo, maybe they want
Speaker 1: something from a catalog, you know what I mean, or
Speaker 1: something like that. I can help him with something or whatever.
Speaker 1: I always you know, not if I know you the
Speaker 1: funk lord. I mean, okay, my my prop is one
Speaker 1: of the funk lords. You know what I'm saying. Three
Speaker 1: thousand see my daddy. He dropped down on one knee, like, man, yo.
Speaker 2: I.
Speaker 1: Got this outfit from there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, that history is amazing, bro, man, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Over twenty years and this is news to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the intricacies of it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we just you know, we just just it
Speaker 2: was just two kindred spirits. We just tapped in and
Speaker 2: just just got the running without ever really talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're looking, we know what it is. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: we didn't need to talk. Pretory. Barry Barry knew what
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: He knew okay, because he he was He's like, what
Speaker 2: you so bad from back there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I had I had a record. It was called
Speaker 1: age ain't nothing but a number? Mm okay, but it
Speaker 1: didn't go like age ain't nothing but number. It wasn't
Speaker 1: that but that. Then I used to go back and
Speaker 1: forth on the phone with Rob Kelly with my ideas. Ship.
Speaker 1: One day he called ship. Matter of fact, he didn't
Speaker 1: even call it, just came on the radio and I
Speaker 1: was like, Rob, hey, hey man, hey man, what I
Speaker 1: got to do for you?
Speaker 3: What I gotta.
Speaker 1: Knew the phone call was coming. I said, come on now.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, the only reason why I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna beat you up, I ain't gonna jump you.
Speaker 1: He said, because one I'm not using that song to
Speaker 1: yours is better than mine. That's what I said. You
Speaker 1: killed that. You you deserve that. You deserve that bite,
Speaker 1: I said, But but I got to get you. I
Speaker 1: got to get you. I said. No, when I do it,
Speaker 1: don't say nothing. When I do it, don't say nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: watch him out. Yeah. So we always had a friendly
Speaker 1: little thing going on. But you know, man, that's that's
Speaker 1: a shame by Rob. But that's that's a hard one.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh, we know I've been knowing robinsonce Man
Speaker 1: tab Dash Records. I got the week my Daddy got
Speaker 1: the v C, the v H S R. Kelly and
Speaker 1: M G M. Musically Gifted Men. He was sitting in
Speaker 1: front of a garage and he had he was sitting
Speaker 1: on a stool and he had three guys behind him.
Speaker 1: They were all sitting on stools in front of a garage.
Speaker 1: And he had a brush and he was singing in
Speaker 1: the brush and he was singing slow Dance. It was
Speaker 1: a demo and he had a song called Dance with Me,
Speaker 1: and the song Danced with Me, he ended up changing
Speaker 1: the hook and when he dropped his first single as
Speaker 1: public announcement, it was Vibe Vibe Vibe. And then when
Speaker 1: he of the verses, the verses from Dance with Me,
Speaker 1: that's how far I go back.
Speaker 2: Wow, the fact that you can even recall all this
Speaker 2: ship is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, but it's like a hieroglyphic in
Speaker 1: your brain because it's like it comes it's still come
Speaker 1: from greatness, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: how you gonna forget that? How are you gonna forget
Speaker 1: being backstage with Michael Jackson. I'll be back on stage
Speaker 1: with Michael Jackson and he just be like you know,
Speaker 1: telling your dad how great he is. I'm like, did
Speaker 1: you like what you right? He said? I remember that time, man,
Speaker 1: you did this riff, And I mean, I'm still mismerized
Speaker 1: today about it. I'm like insane, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, bro, I think we all had Jimmy Curls
Speaker 1: at the time. I see it. I can see it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, come on, now, come on, So are
Speaker 2: you still pursuing your artists.
Speaker 1: Now this point? Now what it is in Atlanta, I'm
Speaker 1: just supporting people. I'm just you know, we got Javanda
Speaker 1: one and the Trap Stars, which we talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about right now, I'm talking about we talking about.
Speaker 2: We got back to when you when you you at
Speaker 2: mc bree Cribs, producing and writing for all these artists
Speaker 2: in your mind, are you still an.
Speaker 1: Artist at this now? No?
Speaker 2: Then, like when you when you're in Atlanta, you first
Speaker 2: get here and you're working on all these different artists,
Speaker 2: are you still trying to like, I still get my
Speaker 2: record deal? I said, no, you that's the thing in
Speaker 2: the past. At this point.
Speaker 1: I meant, I mean, I'm a side artist. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel like. You know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: kind of like Nate Dog. Even back then you was
Speaker 1: hopping on. The dog might drop an album, but Nate
Speaker 1: Dog really just want to jump on. And you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm with a dog pound, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Right, it's like that, I'd rather be
Speaker 1: with the crew, you know what I'm saying, and just
Speaker 1: going to you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So you get your you get your first ten thousand,
Speaker 2: yeah from Eric sermon.
Speaker 1: M hmm. What's what's the next steps for you? Do
Speaker 1: you? You know?
Speaker 2: Do you have have you learned about I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: you came from the business, your father, your mother, but like,
Speaker 2: are you now pursuing those type of things like Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give me a publishing deal, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure out how to get some song deals at these labels.
Speaker 1: Are you doing any of that type of stuff yet?
Speaker 1: Are you still just no, I wouldn't even I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even that wouldn't even know my mind until noontime, No time, Yes,
Speaker 1: no time came. After show enough, show show enough. My
Speaker 1: boy Tila called me on the phone. Get get the
Speaker 1: phone called you Really you ain't really over there from it?
Speaker 1: If you don't know who come on Tila James. So,
Speaker 1: Tila Man, one of my really good brothers. He called me,
Speaker 1: and you say, man, he already told me. He said, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you man. You know, uh, they're talking
Speaker 1: about over a swab house. They want to sign me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So Tila calls me and
Speaker 1: we go back. We go over the over, back to Memphis.
Speaker 1: I go back to Memphis, to the House of Blues.
Speaker 1: So we we recording. One day, we were kicking. It
Speaker 1: wasn't vibing too tough. So I said, hey, man, what
Speaker 1: we need to do is we need to go get
Speaker 1: some information. Guys, let's go get inspired. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the Gentleman's. That's about somebody sitting on your lap and
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with having a cocktail.
Speaker 3: I understand me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we went did that. I think we
Speaker 1: brought a couple of party favorites back to the lap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We had a new bank
Speaker 1: got sentiment. Yeah, we had a fresh We had a
Speaker 1: fresh new banks.
Speaker 2: So we were so we were, we were and all
Speaker 2: kind of feminine poetry to.
Speaker 4: Running around a whole lot of bathing body, little bouquets
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: It was bouquets of it. Yeah. So we get back
Speaker 1: and that boy Taylor walks around here, has some drinking,
Speaker 1: he has some in his hand, and he said, first thing,
Speaker 1: he said, we had the beat already, and I already
Speaker 1: I had most of it. The only sound I didn't
Speaker 1: have was that that That was the icing, right. Where
Speaker 1: do you get that from? Holder? Before you feel? Where
Speaker 1: did you get that Juno one O six the information? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That Juno World six. Yeah, that boy, that sound and
Speaker 1: I played it live on twenty four on on forty
Speaker 1: eight tracks. You know what I'm saying. We got two
Speaker 1: we got we got the Master and the slave running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the Master and the slave.
Speaker 2: Yeah if you fruity, yeah, all you little flat on.
Speaker 1: The tape machine. One tape machine is about that big
Speaker 1: and about that tall from the ground. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So a real piece of two
Speaker 1: of them side by, because one is only twenty four
Speaker 1: tracks and the other one is another twenty fourth man.
Speaker 1: So the master runs the sleigh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you hear you. Your master runs the sleigh and they
Speaker 1: follow and they rock back and forth. And anyway now
Speaker 1: they need that information. Yeah, yeah, how you can google it?
Speaker 1: And that sound yeah stily in my.
Speaker 2: Ear student, the old student. That sound in my early
Speaker 2: days was the that was the South call out for me.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, what's that that song? That sound? Oh white yo, yeah,
Speaker 1: your white. I was like deep looks shout out, shout
Speaker 1: out to all these people. Dj uh uh kicker pre
Speaker 1: because the deep, the New York DJs were really uh
Speaker 1: uh kind of galvanized going everywhere, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And they were like because you know, they were like
Speaker 1: down with puff, they were down with people who were
Speaker 1: really throwing party parties. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: had es and s, you had you had biz biz
Speaker 1: shout out the biz. Shout out to Martin Monty montic
Speaker 1: rest in peace of Manti that he was one of
Speaker 1: the guys, one of my guys back in the day
Speaker 1: that really kind of took me out, and you know
Speaker 1: all of that. But but all of those DJs really
Speaker 1: like helped, you know, I say the East Coast DJs
Speaker 1: because they had such a big bandwidth. Their bandwidth was
Speaker 1: unreal and in the South, all we had to do
Speaker 1: was press play it was already jamming all that. All
Speaker 1: the DJ's pretty much got on it at once. But
Speaker 1: what really made us big was when Outside and New
Speaker 1: York start playing it. When they said this is the
Speaker 1: sound of the South. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's what they play. I was like, if I played
Speaker 1: my song when they when they play the South in DC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they say when they play something from the South.
Speaker 1: That was the first song they played that started the
Speaker 1: whole South set. They got you ready, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: And get you singing. It was almost like, yeah they
Speaker 2: got this wag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was that. It
Speaker 2: was exactly that.
Speaker 1: Back then because it's like, oh, nickclock. They thought I
Speaker 1: was like in church or something, Tabernaca, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we did that record and it just
Speaker 1: changed the game. And that's when Nooney was looking for me.
Speaker 1: Nonie was like, who is Jasey Faye? Then my boy?
Speaker 1: One farmer one farmer shot at to one farmer because
Speaker 1: one farmer said, hey man, it's these guys.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: They're doing a whole lot of stuff. They work with Diddy,
Speaker 1: they work with everybody, you know. And he was just
Speaker 1: like they over in Houston. So on Pea Street, he said, man,
Speaker 1: come on, follow him up to dark and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna ride over there. So I followed him
Speaker 1: up up to the spot and then I met noon
Speaker 1: in them, and after I met knowing them, I was
Speaker 1: with him like every day, every day. That's where I
Speaker 1: met John Tay. Then be Cox came I think probably
Speaker 1: be Cox literally came in. I think he might have
Speaker 1: been bubbling around, but I kind of met him probably
Speaker 1: about three weeks after me being over there. Anthony Dent,
Speaker 1: Jada Walker, Donny Skant, Donny Skance, Chris Hicks, Uh, try
Speaker 1: Tellry Uh, of course, Noony R. G Ryan Glover, everybody,
Speaker 1: Teddy Bishop, Yes, Teddy Bishop.
Speaker 3: Man, yeah.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that first couple of months,
Speaker 1: I mean some of the records that were done at
Speaker 1: noontime was like records like Friend of Mine. I watched
Speaker 1: Kelly Price come in and lay that record with Jada
Speaker 1: in one take. I mean, well like that, like.
Speaker 2: I make sure y'all go listen to Kelly Price Friend
Speaker 2: of Mine, and then in your head say to your son,
Speaker 2: take she sang this down, bro, one.
Speaker 1: Take and said listen, I got to go and feed
Speaker 1: this baby. Pick I got real to do. You're right,
Speaker 1: you got it all right, right, all right, give me
Speaker 1: my email it to me once you get it, when
Speaker 1: you get everything.
Speaker 2: And so so it was noontime already a studio before
Speaker 2: you got there street.
Speaker 1: We were downtown over there, right by over there by uh,
Speaker 1: right by the dome, okay, right by the and then
Speaker 1: you built that spot yep. Then we moved over to
Speaker 1: where you came to over nine. Yes, yes, the time.
Speaker 3: What a time?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? What a time?
Speaker 2: Those those were real, like you know, that was that
Speaker 2: was school. That was boot camp for me. Yeah, being
Speaker 2: down there with you off for that long, oh man,
Speaker 2: that was right camp, learning from you, learning from Teddy
Speaker 2: Bishop as I had the NPCC three thousand didn't sound
Speaker 2: like yours.
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know what I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't sound like what's what's in yours? We used to
Speaker 1: I used to take we used to take the Newmark mixer,
Speaker 1: the Newmark that had the EQ at the top. Y'all show,
Speaker 1: y'all show me. So I would go and I would,
Speaker 1: I would, I would, you know, have a record, and
Speaker 1: I would just keep on bringing that joint back until
Speaker 1: whatever kick I was trying to whatever sound I was
Speaker 1: trying to get. I had the thing just hitting so
Speaker 1: hard right there at the threshold, and it was just
Speaker 1: about to just bust. And it might even be peeking,
Speaker 1: but as long as it wasn't my ear. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's good, y'all show me when I put him
Speaker 1: in there. I tell the engineers all the time, Hey man,
Speaker 1: we're trying to mix that. Just push it up, Just
Speaker 1: just turn it up, just push it up. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all already. Yeah, you ain't got to do all.
Speaker 2: That was what I used to call the noontime stick.
Speaker 2: You hear me, they care They came out of the planet.
Speaker 2: Fact that you'll eq something crazy.
Speaker 1: But see what we would do is Leslie or or
Speaker 1: whoever was at the time mixing the record. It might
Speaker 1: be John Fry, I'd be like, hey John, me those
Speaker 1: those stemps. It might be Teddy Bishop record, and we
Speaker 1: all had the same sounds, so we had so we
Speaker 1: built something called the Noontime Sounds, and me and Teddy,
Speaker 1: Me and Teddy kind of led the pack with the
Speaker 1: Noontime Pack though, because like we were really like the
Speaker 1: quirky guy, like like the nerdy guys with the sound.
Speaker 1: I'm like that one sound that came from No, that
Speaker 1: came that, that came from uh.
Speaker 3: Water waterfalls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the firm worm. Yeah. God hold, I got
Speaker 1: guess what I can't whar.
Speaker 3: Do do do do do?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 3: Do do do?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 3: Do you do? Do?
Speaker 1: What? What is that? Soul soul sisters? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: sound that happens on the FLI I was cutting ship up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was cutting listen. That was the classes that was
Speaker 1: that's the sound that was a little master class for Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's where you got that sound from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because now now all that now, all of these
Speaker 2: things are just impacts, but their sounds they actually come
Speaker 2: Some came from that lady that uh that that di'angelo
Speaker 2: album Do.
Speaker 1: A Bunch Absolutely absolutely where he goes right there. I
Speaker 1: had all all of them. I had all those sounds.
Speaker 1: A CON's first sounds, those sounds, those were all my sounds.
Speaker 2: That He'll tell you all of my sounds. Didn't even
Speaker 2: now jes face sounds. Okay, So bro, let's let's let's
Speaker 2: get it to this. Come on, you got to tell
Speaker 2: the record out going crazy newly looking for you.
Speaker 1: Noon time in it?
Speaker 2: Now, Lord, what is what is what is the next
Speaker 2: big moment because now you're now you're part of a crew, y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all are part of something that's that everybody around the
Speaker 2: country is here about.
Speaker 1: Because you got the big street record. Yes, but when does.
Speaker 2: The global national like not more so you know, that's
Speaker 2: a street and it's more regional and and it's it's
Speaker 2: more beloved, it cultural.
Speaker 1: When do you get like a chart like Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: I was working, I was working over at Dark. At Dark,
Speaker 1: I had kind of we we left the actual nine
Speaker 1: fifty seven building Noonie and I and we kind of
Speaker 1: went on and we kind of started to grow apart,
Speaker 1: grow apart.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Argie was going over to you know tb a with
Speaker 1: with doing his thing, and Chris was doing his thing
Speaker 1: with publishing, and me and Nooney were still you know, rocking.
Speaker 1: So we went over and started rocking with Dallas. So
Speaker 1: Dallas gave me a little cubby hole over in the side.
Speaker 1: It was the d room, and Dallas wasn't really doing
Speaker 1: much over there. He was kind of like on the hiatus.
Speaker 1: He was just you know, being that was Austin traveling dances. Yes,
Speaker 1: me and King Dallas Austin powers, yeah right right, living
Speaker 1: in life. So I'm over there and and and there.
Speaker 1: Noony caused me one day and says, hey, man, uh
Speaker 1: t a coming by and he wants to play. He
Speaker 1: wants to show you this group. And it was three girls,
Speaker 1: three girls in the group. So three girls, he said, Man,
Speaker 1: tell me what you think about Sharty right there. I said,
Speaker 1: she's a superstar. She said, that's her, said all right,
Speaker 1: bet Sierra, it was Sierra. It was Sierra. I let
Speaker 1: her hang out with me at dark for like three days.
Speaker 1: And at this time, you gotta think sever's like seventeen
Speaker 1: years old, sixteen tater seventeen maybe yeah, probably, I think
Speaker 1: headed to seventeen, about to graduate. She was in twelfth grade.
Speaker 1: She's going to twelfth grade summertime. So she's like coming
Speaker 1: up to the studio, big old house shoes and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She was a little thicker than
Speaker 1: too than she but she was like tworking and just
Speaker 1: tanking and acting, you know what I'm saying. But she
Speaker 1: was young. So I'm like, baby, baby, baby, did all
Speaker 1: these wrong men around here? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. So I'm like, hmmm, so okay, we got
Speaker 1: to put this to work. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, because she really can dance and have a
Speaker 1: friends that they be doing some teens. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is before TikTok and all of y'all was just doing.
Speaker 1: Nobody was seeing this. I'm just behind this. I'm like, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So we go in the studio and we work. The
Speaker 1: first time we work. First time we work, we did
Speaker 1: a song.
Speaker 3: You changed the game.
Speaker 1: I'm like, get thug stout. Me and John Tae Austen
Speaker 1: Smash Cold record. I think the next four or five
Speaker 1: records that we did that same week are all on
Speaker 1: the album. That's how I was how much of a
Speaker 1: vibe we had. And she kires Stewart rest is soul shake.
Speaker 1: Uh I called Shake. Let's shay hear it? Loving it?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Uh. He's like, man, I
Speaker 1: want you to I want you to get in with
Speaker 1: La Re. I want you to get in with La Man.
Speaker 1: La wants to meet what you hearing stuff about you
Speaker 1: and all of that. So I went over there over
Speaker 1: there to hit co and met with La and so
Speaker 1: I'm playing l A all these records. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he go to slick Rick record I got a slick
Speaker 1: rick record, outcast, slick wrecking out cass on this jam
Speaker 1: walk up. So he like, dang, I'm playing with Joe
Speaker 1: record I me and John Tay was working on. Then
Speaker 1: I played him like some Chris Brown he was working on.
Speaker 1: And he said, chezy okay, stop stop, stop stop. He said.
Speaker 1: All those records are great records, he said, but I
Speaker 1: need to know what what you got from me. You
Speaker 1: got what you have it there? Yeah, yeah you have.
Speaker 1: But see I had never been in one of those meetings.
Speaker 1: I was just fortunate enough to be around here just
Speaker 1: placing records everywhere, you know what I'm saying. So that
Speaker 1: was my first real come to Jesus meeting, like type like,
Speaker 1: come on in here and get some of this you
Speaker 1: know goodness, real money in the game. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that that's what it was. And you know,
Speaker 1: Shaker standing behind La, He's like the girl, the girl,
Speaker 1: the girl. So I just bought my Bentley big flex right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just bought my bent my first, my first Bentley,
Speaker 1: right first, the first one. Right. So when he said that,
Speaker 1: I was hesitating because the whole time the CD I
Speaker 1: had figured out how to get it out. Man, he
Speaker 1: don't know how to work leg. I mean, I'm so
Speaker 1: in love with this CD. I don't really careful I
Speaker 1: get a card list to that. You know what, man,
Speaker 1: I got all the all of her songs on the CD.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm working on. I'm just like, what I's
Speaker 1: to do. I ain't gotta take it out. So I
Speaker 1: talked to my partner. I called my partner on the
Speaker 1: phone and said, man, you just and I popped it out,
Speaker 1: went downstairs, popped it. I came back up, came back
Speaker 1: upstairs before his sweating because I'm trying to damn CD out.
Speaker 1: So I come in there. You don't have af back
Speaker 1: on head. I'm like, yeah, dog. So he's like yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so come on, like, let's hear it. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1: But when I played one song on it, I think
Speaker 1: I think I played Thugstyle first because that was my
Speaker 1: favorite record. I no, I played something else. I played
Speaker 1: something else and he liked it. I think I played
Speaker 1: looking at You, Looking at You because Temple, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get me the tempo first me. He's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: like that. Give me another one that nigga heard that
Speaker 1: damn Thugs down la la la la la la la
Speaker 1: la la la la lah. He was like, he was
Speaker 1: just he was like, whoa is that? Where is she?
Speaker 1: I was like, man, she's ever reheard? So right now?
Speaker 1: He said, go get her right now, bring her here.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, she is not ready. She is
Speaker 1: not ready. He said, I got to leave. What time
Speaker 1: am I leaving?
Speaker 3: Y'all?
Speaker 1: He said, man, listen, I got to go. I said, bro,
Speaker 1: I got to get her together to meet you. I
Speaker 1: can't just she would kill me if I try to
Speaker 1: bring you. You know what I'm saying. He was like, listen,
Speaker 1: can y'all be here tomorrow at ten o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning before I leave? I said, yes, we can. Yes,
Speaker 1: Sir came back. As soon as he saw her, I
Speaker 1: had everybody with me. I ain't you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm being ghetto. I'm robin everybody. He walks in that way,
Speaker 1: I got people standing all in the way. He's like,
Speaker 1: where is she? And he's seeing her and he just
Speaker 1: put his arms out. He's like, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: We ran down all the records and he was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is it. It was it Sierra, Wow, Sierra.
Speaker 1: So do you science the Sierra signed two years already
Speaker 1: signed to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the first artist on show. Sure
Speaker 2: enough here and at this point before this you had
Speaker 2: had no label. No, it starts with you and CC Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, oh yeah. At Dark Studio. Oh boy, oh boy. Look,
Speaker 1: the boy Dallas didn't even know we had Goodies was
Speaker 1: out and I think on uh uh Total Request Live
Speaker 1: t r L. Yeah, it was on tr number one
Speaker 1: on t r L for like two weeks. Dallas calls
Speaker 1: me on the phone, Hey, bro, I'm on I'm over
Speaker 1: here looking at MTV and the little girl, oh ciarra,
Speaker 1: the girl, the girl you got is number one. Man,
Speaker 1: you ain't let me get on this album. I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tell you. I know what he
Speaker 1: calling because we got the mastermind here. Yeah, not just
Speaker 1: the mind, but the mastermind. It's in his blood. What's
Speaker 1: with the stars in the roof? Bawn in and I
Speaker 1: sworn in it? Oh yes, lord, what you got born
Speaker 1: chief Jesse Finzel. Oh boy, it's the old boy himself,
Speaker 1: mister oh boy himself.
Speaker 2: You know a lot about music, everything about real music,
Speaker 2: real music, trio.
Speaker 1: Music, from the soil, from the soil.
Speaker 2: From the soil and in your times of being born
Speaker 2: and to this thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know you. You found some music that is.
Speaker 5: Part of your top five, your top five, top five,
Speaker 5: top five, your top five everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah ala be song, you got you, you got do s, you.
Speaker 1: Got you grow. I know you know you want to
Speaker 1: know your Yeah yea Finzie oh boys five yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: Lord one three four.
Speaker 2: H Finzel your top five. As the fifth member of Singer.
Speaker 1: That's why I am fifth members of JAD Me and
Speaker 1: Pete met and Pete Pablo and uh Kenny Burns are
Speaker 1: all the fifth member of j and the the sixth
Speaker 1: member of joas Waxy Yeah all together. Now, I always
Speaker 1: been a member of Jones as well, you know, under.
Speaker 2: Yeah, under yeah, under the oh yeah act. Shout them though.
Speaker 2: He would have loved that, oh yeah yeah. Top five.
Speaker 2: Let's go for you. It is yours, yours, for you,
Speaker 2: not the world. What makes you girl.
Speaker 1: You're going to Bobby, You're going Bobby first or or Hobby.
Speaker 1: That's a little different, do you because it's yours. It's yours. Luther, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: big Luther. Little Luther said big look big, definitely big. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You don't like in sha, it's your list I'm sorry
Speaker 1: always I'm disrespecting. That's what the father was great. He's great,
Speaker 1: but I mean, come on, I respect you. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to smoke bucket the chicken, all right,
Speaker 1: So Jerry, Jerry, I know y'all get that bucket from me.
Speaker 1: He's made a fierce card game. Yeah. See vocalists R
Speaker 1: and B whatever your world.
Speaker 2: You know, every everything starts and everything starts, yeah, Darryl Coley.
Speaker 1: Yeah everything, Okay, everything starts him starts with him. Yeah, yeah, him.
Speaker 2: He spawned so many children, from the Joe's to the Marios.
Speaker 1: I got like, I got so many of those. I
Speaker 1: got so many. That's that's so. That's three. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to put a lady in there. I
Speaker 1: want to, you know, because I got so many of
Speaker 1: them that that I love. But you know what, somebody
Speaker 1: that I really enjoy their vocals. Jasmine Sullivan. Why not?
Speaker 1: I love her? Why not? I just love her. She'd
Speaker 1: be going through a thing on that Michael phone board. Man,
Speaker 1: I'll be going through it with her. What she's saying about,
Speaker 1: that's what I already know. She coming back. She's gonna
Speaker 1: going back to gospel at the end. I know she's
Speaker 1: going back that. Okay, that's four. Why not? Hi, I'm
Speaker 1: so tired and just how and that was a fight
Speaker 1: between him and I. I already did a gospel but man,
Speaker 1: you know I still love the John B Keys, of course,
Speaker 1: I mean, come, I guess Godfather Jef V Key and
Speaker 1: Mervin and Fred Hammond and all the Commission records. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just such a fan. I'm over such a fan
Speaker 1: of Commission.
Speaker 2: Okay, well we're gonna get another shot on the top
Speaker 2: five R and B songs songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mm
Speaker 2: hmmm do.
Speaker 1: The things big wan say. No, you got to stay
Speaker 1: on your pis and cues. Are you going?
Speaker 2: Woman's gotta have it going, Woman's gotta have it, Woman's
Speaker 2: got Yeah, he's going there, Al.
Speaker 1: Green, Oh look what you've done to me? Look what
Speaker 1: you've done to me. Oh yeah, he came in here
Speaker 1: with full Cadillac music. Yeah, Stevie wonder m tens ten
Speaker 1: zillion light years away. They say that heat tens you know,
Speaker 1: light years away.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a fight between that and all that's fair
Speaker 1: and love that loves the crazy. Guess yeah, it takes
Speaker 1: his pen. Oh man, come on, now, a song for
Speaker 1: you m down. They had the way. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: a fight between that and someday we'll all be free.
Speaker 1: Because that song brings me to tears because of where
Speaker 1: we are. You know what I mean socially and what
Speaker 1: it meant and the time of it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, I got one more commission running back
Speaker 1: to you. Go ahead and sit up because they feel
Speaker 1: me that record right there? Yeah, that song made me.
Speaker 1: That song made me see Jesus like when I with
Speaker 1: my eyes open. You know what I'm saying. It made me.
Speaker 1: It made me understand my relationship with the Man of
Speaker 1: Stealth and when I want to see them live. You know,
Speaker 1: it was just me. It's crazy, friends and vocals. Come on.
Speaker 1: That man is still trying to it. He was looking
Speaker 1: He's just looking at the Lord.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, that's very spiritual. And you know we will go
Speaker 1: top ten because I gotta go. Uhhh my god, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Who don't feel it in they? So I
Speaker 1: just said that stopped feeling right in the arch of
Speaker 1: my foot. Do you feel me? Yeah? What about what
Speaker 1: about stair Away to Heaven? Oh, you're gonna keep going
Speaker 1: step step Come on, So man locks somewhere man, it's
Speaker 1: an'thing to get torn close up. God, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: let's think about that. Think about that's all I listened to.
Speaker 1: Listen hipping Mane.
Speaker 2: Lenny said, if it's in God's will, how can a
Speaker 2: woman say to you when you say that to her?
Speaker 1: Hey? Man, comes on, you got your and they hit
Speaker 1: that note? Yeah right, I'm gonna leave Leny alone whatever
Speaker 1: we can have that note. He gotta come over here
Speaker 1: do that note?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he still got it. He Yeah, was a problem.
Speaker 1: You feel me? Top fifteen, Come on, here we go.
Speaker 1: Let's make your vote.
Speaker 2: Ron, Let's make your super r and b artists you're supers.
Speaker 2: Hold on, we're gonna put all the pieces together, all right.
Speaker 2: We need to know who you're gonna get the vocal
Speaker 2: from for your artists, who you're gonna get the performance
Speaker 2: style from, the styling from, and the heart.
Speaker 1: Of the artists. And for you, who's gonna produce for him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who're gonna get the voice? Who're gonna get the vocal
Speaker 1: for your super the artists? My vocal? Oh that's a
Speaker 1: hard one, but not really the vocal?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What this goes on? We ain't went Let's go to Charlie.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go Uncle Charlie, Uncle Charlie with oh but
Speaker 1: our performance because.
Speaker 2: You wait us let us let us enjoy this joy,
Speaker 2: Uncle Charlie. Man performance performance style on that stage.
Speaker 1: Oh only because I know people are gonna say that
Speaker 1: don't match.
Speaker 2: They don't have to match Michael Jackson Man, what that
Speaker 2: absolutely matches.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. He was just so impeccable. He's the
Speaker 1: he's the standard. I was there when when he when
Speaker 1: he did MOTWN twenty five. You were there. I wasn't
Speaker 1: at the place, but I mean I was. I know
Speaker 1: where I was. I know exactly where I was. I
Speaker 1: was sitting in front of my great grandmama TV. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that screaming? Screaming? When that
Speaker 1: man said definitely I like the new song on, I
Speaker 1: was changed my life.
Speaker 2: And the next the very I went to school and
Speaker 2: did the moonwalk, the styling of the artist.
Speaker 1: The drift of the artist, because we know that's what
Speaker 1: you do. You're gonna do your you've been doing right now.
Speaker 1: Listen here Teddy rolling guy. Oh oh when they first
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the first guy out grew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Timmy, I say with a levefore before crazy lads
Speaker 2: got group.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say that was the first one
Speaker 1: I've seen with that, that album with the real name
Speaker 1: fly name changed with diamonds.
Speaker 2: I want to tell guy right now, y'all can wear
Speaker 2: that right right now, get off.
Speaker 1: That was off right now. That was the first one
Speaker 1: to wear the big name changed with the diamonds on them.
Speaker 2: The passion of the artists, the heart of the artist.
Speaker 2: James Quick, easy easy, kick your ass in the ass
Speaker 2: on the stage, off the stage, on the airplane.
Speaker 3: I love good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who's producing for this artist? M two guys okay, Quincy
Speaker 2: and Finzel?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. What are we talking about? Because I always
Speaker 1: wanted to work with him? What are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Quincy and Finz? Oh boy, oh boy? Not
Speaker 1: Jacky fa yeah, fin.
Speaker 4: Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 1: What else we got for chief? Uh? I ain't saying
Speaker 1: no nig I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying
Speaker 1: no name. I ain't saying no names. Were you what
Speaker 1: you need? Don't say she? I ain't saying no name. Huh.
Speaker 1: So we've come to the segment.
Speaker 2: Now. You can't let you leave this building without this segment.
Speaker 2: It's called I ain't saying no names. Will you tell
Speaker 2: us a story?
Speaker 1: Funny? Are fucked up?
Speaker 2: Funny and fucked up in the Travelers of Jazzy Ftle
Speaker 2: product shistle My.
Speaker 1: We need that story. We need that. I ain't saying
Speaker 1: no names. The only rule to the game. You can't
Speaker 1: say names. That's it. Man. Way back, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say the year, because then I just started telling myself.
Speaker 1: But way back, rock star status. We backstage at funk Fest,
Speaker 1: a lot of big groups on stage, a lot of
Speaker 1: big groups on stage, artists on the side of the stage.
Speaker 1: I'm over hearing everything because I'm a kid. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: on the you know, I'm a fly on the wall.
Speaker 1: So police already then been aware of this guy's presence
Speaker 1: in the building. And if he goes out and proceeds
Speaker 1: with his regular show, he's going to jail, no questions,
Speaker 1: I was saying. But or maybe he already notifies everybody
Speaker 1: that ain't nobody in Wisconsin or wherever he was at
Speaker 1: stopping his show, the folk, the white folk, whoever they are.
Speaker 1: I ain't stopping what I do. And when I get
Speaker 1: out here and do this thing, I want you to
Speaker 1: be ready on the opposite side, because they are going
Speaker 1: to come on this side where they think the stairs are.
Speaker 1: I want you to create a pseudo staircase over here
Speaker 1: on this side. And when I smoke this weed on
Speaker 1: this stage, I'm going to disappear cloud smoke, and we're
Speaker 1: going to be parked. And instead of doing this sub
Speaker 1: ending of the show, we're going to do it at
Speaker 1: the very end, so to be done and the damage to
Speaker 1: be done and Victor will be won. And it was done.
Speaker 1: He almost got out of there, I hope and he
Speaker 1: got out. Yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did his show. Probably guess all right,
Speaker 2: but he did his show. Yeah, I guess I could
Speaker 2: probably guess that one. But yeah, and you was therefore
Speaker 2: right there, of course, right there, he's everywhere right there,
Speaker 2: he's omni president. You're like the Lord, nor lord like
Speaker 2: lord like lord like more like geez.
Speaker 1: Bens eld.
Speaker 2: Listen, Man, what can I say?
Speaker 1: Man? I love you, Man, I love you. I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait to get over here. Man, after you did that
Speaker 1: thing with Casey, Man, that was that like I hit
Speaker 1: you and told you I think that's kind of put
Speaker 1: they put me back on your brain or whatever. And
Speaker 1: because I know you be doing a lot, but man,
Speaker 1: that thing made me weep. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: I think because I've never seen him in that light,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, I never seen Casey and that
Speaker 1: light and and and it was like even though of
Speaker 1: course we would have wanted to see Joe, to see
Speaker 1: the whole group, it was just it was just enough
Speaker 1: for my spirit.
Speaker 3: At the time.
Speaker 1: He texted me and said I laughed and cried. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I did Broo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man.
Speaker 1: But I think the great part about it was to
Speaker 1: see that he was he was doing good. He was
Speaker 1: doing good. You know what I'm saying. He's he's definitely
Speaker 1: a hero. You know what I'm saying. And when you
Speaker 1: you talk about you know, you know all of that,
Speaker 1: all of those thoughts like bur in my head, like
Speaker 1: like we in the same like as brothers, like because
Speaker 1: he was like I gotta love I was like I
Speaker 1: didn't understand, like bro because you know all of these
Speaker 1: rules they used to have an R and B, like
Speaker 1: you got to have an eight bar this, eight bar that,
Speaker 1: and and like one of those up moments were I
Speaker 1: know y'all probably had it too. When Dwayne and them
Speaker 1: came in there and did four bars and went straight.
Speaker 2: To the hook. Yeah, yeah, how you gonna tell me? Hey, bark,
Speaker 2: they made you argue. They made you argue, and and
Speaker 2: and and Just to even add to that, I was
Speaker 2: with j Z, right, me and Jez, and they're working.
Speaker 2: Jez said, Bro at the twelve bars, Bro, I'll be done.
Speaker 2: He was the first one. He coined the twelve bar verse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said, it's okay, Bro, you got a rep sixteen bars,
Speaker 2: we'll change it it.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm repping all my songs twelves. He put
Speaker 1: all twelves on Trapper Die. Trapper Dye became the bible
Speaker 1: for these trap rappers, right, all the rappers you know
Speaker 1: they're trying to get off anyway, Twelve bars is matter
Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm still gonna get my bag and
Speaker 1: I get to give you his twelve because sixteen always
Speaker 1: just felt like, yeah, don't nobody want to do the
Speaker 1: hundred yard dance. I want to add you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm about to listen to trappor Die away
Speaker 1: different now. Yes, That's why I was sold, because we're
Speaker 1: getting he getting back to that hook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, and hooks, Well,
Speaker 2: we love you brother, your your stories are your stories,
Speaker 2: and your work and your legend. You are one of one.
Speaker 2: It's maculate, man, God is good. It's a maculate you
Speaker 2: good in these streets, real man.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Yeah, and you know this
Speaker 1: is this is this is home for you.
Speaker 2: Man. Uh, the tap in is real, man. We'll break
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