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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are take Melchi.

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<v Speaker 1>We are the authorities R and B Ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Tank Valentine and this is the R

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<v Speaker 2>and B Money Podcast, the authority of all things R

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<v Speaker 2>and B oh ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we in the A T lay and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maine, Don Main. I'm not gonna waste time on this

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<v Speaker 2>this show. We don't get right to it. My brother,

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<v Speaker 2>my love for.

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<v Speaker 1>Jose Fier, the ladies and gentlemen. You're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>Marfa and George Shulana, Jassey, Finzel, Burgundy, Obama, Luther King Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna change it starring Be Money, a little bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than just R and B starring Be and sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>Coach starring me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Allard fingers, we're doing We're starting early.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't take it.

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<v Speaker 2>There, listen, brother, Yeah, we've been doing this man a

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<v Speaker 2>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time, long long long time, long.

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<v Speaker 2>Time since Papa John's Beason with the garlic dippers up, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, long long time, the whole back at back at

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<v Speaker 1>the new time on the about the railroad tracks. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a Papa John's partnership. Won't be out here

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<v Speaker 2>your shout niggas.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey shot, Papa John, come on with shout this baby.

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<v Speaker 1>How you been man? Hey man?

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<v Speaker 2>Blessed bro Yeah, blessed and hally favor every every time

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<v Speaker 2>I scroll past your page, Man, you smile and you're

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<v Speaker 2>making some music. You living your life. You're enjoying yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what that's that's what I know about. Jes

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<v Speaker 2>gona have a good time, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had many a good time. When you better have

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<v Speaker 2>a good time, when you you better have a good

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<v Speaker 2>time when you with him? What if God says talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Your gifts will make room for and that didn't that

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<v Speaker 1>just see that, man, like, look at y'all. Look at y'all, man,

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<v Speaker 1>look like y'all could be doing y'all first projects. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that about you like a youngster. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>your gift making room. The Lord is preserved, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Time people don't look at it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Right? Yeah, And sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>forget you know what I mean? But when you go

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<v Speaker 1>to your class reunions. He sometimes get reminded. You'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold, but we were the same.

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<v Speaker 1>We was in the eleventh grade together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, man, we lived some good life. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just you were sustained for I'm blessed. We're blessed,

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<v Speaker 2>sustained for a reason. We we are designed. Our design

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<v Speaker 2>is something different. Yeah, you know, I mean, and so

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<v Speaker 2>what has been given to us is the the the

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<v Speaker 2>favor within our appearance. Mmmmm okay, so that so that

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<v Speaker 2>we we never die.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom always say favorite ain't fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, ain't fair. I mean, talking about certain things. She'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, she just cut me off and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>favorite ain't fair. Say you, yeah, not everybody time your time,

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<v Speaker 2>you hear me. Yeah, and you and you've and you've

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<v Speaker 2>had your time for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, listen, listen. I love when you got to step.

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<v Speaker 1>In away at them sun rays. Just gotta I learned

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<v Speaker 1>how to, you know. I stood on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>set with Diddy and all them guys and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you do it. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He made it fashionable to push people out the way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying like that a cool way,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I'm saying, sip hop excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>but you better do something cool when you when you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's your time. Yeah Yeah, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack. You know you have a you have a rich history.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, your history started before you was even in

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<v Speaker 2>the womb. Oh you hear me, You understand I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>you hear me. I want to get into some of

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<v Speaker 2>your your rich history, like go back to the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>where this is, Where does all this come from? All

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<v Speaker 2>that is the very.

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<v Speaker 1>Origin for for you guys that you know, for modern

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<v Speaker 1>day to give it to y'all in the modern day,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's it's a blessing that I can even

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<v Speaker 1>do that and make y'all get it. I started right before,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a couple of years before got got no not,

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<v Speaker 1>got not. I am bened swag bood do do do

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<v Speaker 1>That bass player is my daddy. That's my dad. My

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<v Speaker 1>dad is the leader of the Barcas, the legendary the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary Barcades. And he was seventeen years old at the

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<v Speaker 1>time when he played on that record and they played

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that live on YouTube. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>look at it Otis Redding. The Barcas were the house

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<v Speaker 1>band for Stax Records, and so when you had a

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<v Speaker 1>new artist come up, the Barcades would play behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>And Otis was like, I want the Barcas to be

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<v Speaker 1>my band. Yes, said my dad. Team, Yes they were

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<v Speaker 1>the band. They were the band. Now. Tragically, the Barcads

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<v Speaker 1>passed away in a plane crash before I was born,

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<v Speaker 1>minus my pop. He did not get on that plane.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the odd man out. They were on a

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<v Speaker 1>private plane and they were going into Madison, Wisconsin somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>and they crashed in that in that water. And one

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<v Speaker 1>member uh survived the crash was Ben Carley, who was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my godfathers. I got several godfathers. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them, you know what I'm saying. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a trumpet player. He survived, but he was never

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<v Speaker 1>the same. But one other guy who was my dad's

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<v Speaker 1>best friend besides Otis Redding, who passed in the playing

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<v Speaker 1>crash as well. His name was Failing Jones. I'm failing Alexander.

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<v Speaker 1>I was named after Failing Jones, who was my dad

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<v Speaker 1>and my mom's best friend. Yeah. So yeah, so he

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<v Speaker 1>started that's where That's where man, that's where it started.

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<v Speaker 1>It started like that, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and you know later on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mom and mom and dad had Finzel, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it wasn't the only huh. But Pops wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>only side with the music though, No Mom was.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom was on it too. She sang with, She sang

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of different people. She sang with Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Bailey and when he had his gospel the Living Epistles.

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<v Speaker 1>She sang with d J Rogers, Billy Preston, uhh, Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson got banned, all of them and several others. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>give me, give give me the samp for your mama's own.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh uh uh siyy When you hear that, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know my mama singing on that, yeah that And

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<v Speaker 1>then you might heard she's also singing on the Common

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<v Speaker 1>record Fame to the what Yeah, that's that's the DJ Rogers,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's my mama. And I'm singing, yes you heard

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<v Speaker 1>that one? To come on, man, they had me in

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<v Speaker 1>those places. I've been sitting up there when when Michael

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald was telling Kenny Logers to sing it again. You

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<v Speaker 1>were there yes, yes, No, it's like you think that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's so singing to it again. Yeah, you the

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<v Speaker 1>little boy in the studio and the cut my mama's hip.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are you? You're on the hip? Okay, on

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<v Speaker 2>the hip. So you absorbing? Yeah, absorbing a sponge.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sliding. I was sliding faders at seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Yeah, that's a bar because I was sliding.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sliding faders. I was sliding. I'll tell these

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<v Speaker 1>cats all the time when when they try to like

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<v Speaker 1>block me out the studio or something, I was like, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the studio for you was allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>go in when they told you this, probably slap your

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<v Speaker 1>hand and tell you don't touch that. Yeah, you already

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<v Speaker 1>knew how to work it right. Cats my age though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, No, you wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio when I was in the studio. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio though, So when did it hit you?

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<v Speaker 1>When did?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course you're in the studio with the faders,

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<v Speaker 2>you're absorbing it. You're seeing it from both sides, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's in Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wasn't raised in Memphis. I was born in Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom and dad separated early when I was like four,

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<v Speaker 1>and I moved my mom my mo.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandmother was living in in Inglewood in California. So

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<v Speaker 1>and my cousin was also living there. My cousin, Paula,

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<v Speaker 1>she she lived there not too far from my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>and she was working for Castle Blank of Records. And

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<v Speaker 1>my mom she went out there, you know, because they

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<v Speaker 1>they out there. My my uh, my grandmother was hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with Harol Melvin and the Blue Notes at the time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, yea, yeah, moving away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm saying to you is that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>on yeah, baby, it's seeing me, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to dance on Soul Train. We was that. We

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<v Speaker 1>was that. So you were raised where? Yeah, in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly mostly in California, but back and forth because you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go back to in the summer time

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<v Speaker 1>with Pop and my dad. My dad was in Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was in Memphis, so you know, with the Barcades,

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<v Speaker 1>I go on the road with the Barcades, and he

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was in me, so he takes me with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I be on the hip. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>so me and my brother, you know, we'd be back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. And when did you start tinkering? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably in high school? Yeah, in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>L A talent shows high school in uh rialto California.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I went to Eisenhower, Bro, you I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I also as I also went to Loveland Church. Hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>watch when the watch when the IV brothers see this

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<v Speaker 2>and they realized.

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<v Speaker 1>Then this I know the mighty o t Listen, look California.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he gets come on dog. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was still I'm still on Memphis, but I'm still Cali. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all over. That's what thus you got the you

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<v Speaker 1>know the shizzle. So that's why you get the you

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<v Speaker 1>know the Cali side. You know, me just running into

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<v Speaker 1>everybody along the way, from Snoop Dogg to you know

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, all of these guys. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>came back to Memphis, I got a record deal. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a record deal in ninety one, singing Yes with Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Singing and rapt with Electric Records with Doug Daniels over

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<v Speaker 1>there Electric Records, and probably a year after I dropped

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<v Speaker 1>a single. Year after during that single, Bob kras Now

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<v Speaker 1>who was the CEO. He passed away. That's when they

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<v Speaker 1>brought in Ruber ro Reguez. Wait, so are you Jazzy Fayette? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was failing l o n Failing. That

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<v Speaker 1>was my performance name when I when I did my

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<v Speaker 1>first show, Bust of Rhymes and dink O d and

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<v Speaker 1>all of them dudes came in a super room all

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<v Speaker 1>like they was like they jumped out of a damn

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<v Speaker 1>clown car. They all got out of the car and

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<v Speaker 1>came to my my video shoot in New York because

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<v Speaker 1>I did shoot in New York at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I did my first video. It was like yo,

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<v Speaker 1>failing yo beat, you know, like you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time I see the spliff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So he's like, y'all my

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<v Speaker 1>label mates be you know what I mean. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was like that, like since back then, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And Keith Sweat was on the label King

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I think and Touch record was out at

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<v Speaker 1>the time to hype to put on my best I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe that she said in Sweat right there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was his group, wasn't it. He's had something

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<v Speaker 1>I got yeah, sweat l something I was. I would

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Derrick Daniels and then called Keith and saying, hey, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you a star. You gotta you gotta quit working at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the stock Market. I remember that conversation when

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<v Speaker 1>he called my daddy and told him what he had

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<v Speaker 1>to tell. Keith said, Man, you don't have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Man he had had to quit that job. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I ain't quit my job. Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still on Wall Street still to this day. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>j called me after that. You know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's seven o'clock. When that seven clock here, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I be on that. He's not playing, He's

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<v Speaker 2>not playing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he diligent about that bag. Still about that bag?

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<v Speaker 1>Love Keith. So first singles.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing Keith since then. So first singles out,

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<v Speaker 2>first singles out? Okay, what's going on? Is he?

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<v Speaker 1>When?

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<v Speaker 2>When?

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<v Speaker 1>When? The when? The when? The record it was moderate

0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I was on my second single. I think Mark the

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<v Speaker 1>forty five King remixed it. You heard so he remixed it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is my head is spinning, bro. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you I got him now. So so at the

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<v Speaker 1>time when when Bob Krasno passed like that's the original.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his record mark, the forty five King and Love.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he grabbed it. But the I got, I

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<v Speaker 1>got dropped from the label because you know, anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't sell five hundred the better was dropped because the new,

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<v Speaker 1>the new reign is coming in. I was on. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on an independent label which my dad was also

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<v Speaker 1>like head of promotions, which I moved back to Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>to come and join the label, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad helped me get my deal over the lecture,

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't I no longer had a deal, but

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<v Speaker 1>we had a studio. We had a studio, and the

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<v Speaker 1>record label was called Mega Jam Records. Mega Jam Records. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Stocks was the was the CEO at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a street cat turn honest, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And he was hanging around Penny Hardaway at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I remember when Penny Hardaway had got it

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<v Speaker 1>to some stuff and he got shot in his foot.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, yeah, I don't know, and they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>him around. They didn't want him around. And and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know Niga in the foot right right when he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to Trailwell, you know what I'm saying high school,

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. In high school, yep, yep. He was

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<v Speaker 1>my It was a it was, you know, freak accident

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<v Speaker 1>type thing that was trying to rob Terry's liquor store.

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<v Speaker 1>But he had he had Penny with him. He was

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<v Speaker 1>always with him, you know what I'm saying. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you always got a guy in the street, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, you know, helping, helping out. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, you know what I'm saying. When Penny was

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<v Speaker 1>in there, you know, and had tread well on fire

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<v Speaker 1>and you could breathing room only in there, and and

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<v Speaker 1>Spike Lea show up breathing room he had. They was

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<v Speaker 1>winning every game. They was winning every game. He come

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<v Speaker 1>flying from downtown, you know what I mean. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a studio, Terror Starks had a studio. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I went back to the studio, I noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>none of the people that were there, I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know about budgets, and you know, I wasn't there

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<v Speaker 1>for the business. I was just there for the creativity part.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I got back, I'm like, nobody's coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the studio calling people, ain't ask in the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>And his little white kid named Mike Patterson. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you'll ever met Mike. He used to work

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<v Speaker 1>for bad Boy and then he went to Niners Nails

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know where he is now, but Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Patterson was like our little house in in there and

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<v Speaker 1>he was sitting there reading a book or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Jazzy, the reason why people aren't coming is

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<v Speaker 1>because the money's gone, said, the money's gone. But guess

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<v Speaker 1>what have you heard that music without you? I was

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<v Speaker 1>like Noah. He was like, man, it doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 1>it does when you're around. That's because you've been producing

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<v Speaker 1>it the whole time. You're just not programming it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not programming it. So like Quincy Jones, he goes in

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<v Speaker 1>and he produces his records and he orchestrates it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing you do, he said, but now it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you. So you just needed to get on this

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<v Speaker 1>NPC and learn and get get down with. Sliced T

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my mentors, Excepted was my same age.

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold Hennings was on our staff. Arnold Hennings made cupe

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<v Speaker 1>it really yeah. Arnold Hennings was Yeah, he did cup it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the first people out of our

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<v Speaker 1>crew to sign a deal. He signed a deal with

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Austin and made it. Made me look like Dang

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<v Speaker 1>that boy that went to Atlanta and just went crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's over there with Timmy Bob and was on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>It was working on he worked on. He worked on

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<v Speaker 1>the Boys and Boys, the men house, all that keyboard work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Arnold.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, dang guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm going to Jack the Rapper. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Jack the Rapper. So I'm at Jack

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<v Speaker 1>the Rapper and I see, I see Diddy. I seen Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>He had on these big old He had the big

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby brown pants, some pat leathers, no socks, a Pokadont

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<v Speaker 1>shirt button all the way to the top, and a

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<v Speaker 1>briefcase and he had a he had a little a

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<v Speaker 1>small little briefcase then you know, the one like your

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<v Speaker 1>big one. He opened it up and he had he

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<v Speaker 1>had a card. He said, he said, my name is

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<v Speaker 1>Puff Daddy. He said, if you want to be with

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation of bad motherfuckers, come over the uptown

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<v Speaker 1>m That's how he was introducing and he walked off.

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<v Speaker 1>He walked off. The next time he saw me, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on stage I was on stage and he said, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to sign you the bad Boy. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to sign you the bad Boy. I got a new

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<v Speaker 1>label called bad Boy. That was the next year, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I and when I got to the door, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was this kid. He had on he had

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<v Speaker 1>on the pumps. I was like, who, come, where you

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<v Speaker 1>get them pumps from? Because I knew nobody had the pumps.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Dallas Austin. I was there, was like, my

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<v Speaker 1>boy said, hey, that's that Charles Farrar. Charles Farrar and

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Taylor, they were the characters. They were the characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And Bernard Alexander.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They was like, come on, y'all, y'all come through this door. Man. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember him saying, hey, man, you gotta let these

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<v Speaker 1>guys in, these of the young telling these young talented cats.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, ain't got no passes, but

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<v Speaker 1>letting me in. Let him go get some credentials, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. He said, you know this Dallas Austin. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the boy that did he miss the DJ song.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, bro, I heard you song like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>times a day. You know what I'm saying. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started saying, hey, mister DJ, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That's I mean Dallas Austin. So me and

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas stuck together him sneaking and everything that weekend. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have no credentials neither. No, we snuck in Jack

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<v Speaker 1>the Rapper. Wow, we stuck in Jack the Rapper. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean my dad had credentials. But he was like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>you be night right. You know what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>when they leave you, then they try to play you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was it. I mean I came back.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a group called the Fulcoholics in Memphis. We

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<v Speaker 1>were just local in Memphis. We did a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a great performance though Todd Day. Todd Day

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<v Speaker 1>basketball player, Tod Day, I think he was playing with

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Mavericks at the time. It just got

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<v Speaker 1>his deal. You had big bank. Todd Day was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to go to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always talking about you gonna go to Atlanta. Need

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Atlanta and don't come back until you

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<v Speaker 1>get down and make it like all right. And my manager,

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<v Speaker 1>Carolyn Carolyn. She was like, yo, I said, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Let's go to Atlanta. She's like, I hain't bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people out there. So we get out there,

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<v Speaker 1>we get down to the last dollar. She bust out

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<v Speaker 1>and says, I know mc breed hm hmm. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know m C bread in the future in your

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<v Speaker 1>front man, take me to mc breed right now. F

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<v Speaker 1>C Bree says, oh, so you you jazzy Faye Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like yeah, he said, let me let me hear

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<v Speaker 1>what you got, b I got. I got the Nike

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<v Speaker 1>box I got, I got, I got this, I got

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the floppy disc, I got the DATS I got.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I even had a couple of CDs. I

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<v Speaker 1>think CDs was coming new to the game. That was

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:39.880
<v Speaker 1>new to the game. I had a couple of thom

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.879
<v Speaker 1>So he says, show me what you got. So I

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<v Speaker 1>played a couple of joints. I played one joint. First joint.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, okay, you did that. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I played the second one. He said you did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like yeah. He said, what, play me another one.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yo, did that. He was like yeah, he said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what y'all doing tomorrow. Then Man, me and Carolyn looked

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. Then he said, so, how long y'all

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in town? We looked at each other again.

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>She pulled her to the side. Then he came back

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<v Speaker 1>and he told his boy. He said, hey, man, go

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<v Speaker 1>to my house, get that room across from my room,

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<v Speaker 1>clean it out and let them stay in that room

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<v Speaker 1>in my house. And can't and George first first time,

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<v Speaker 1>right like right now, went to the house when we

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<v Speaker 1>got when he got done with the session, I stayed

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<v Speaker 1>at the session until he got done. We got in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, I went got my stuff and came to

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<v Speaker 1>his house with all my stuff and I moved in

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<v Speaker 1>there and from there I met too Short Eric Simon.

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<v Speaker 1>She hooked it up, you know, she hooked it up,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh red Man method Man, Snoop Dogg, d OC linked

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the Snoop Dogg and Warren G and everybody, Keith Sweat

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<v Speaker 1>through mc B. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She put me on shout out to Man and you

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 2>programming and everything at this time. Yeah, you're doing the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. I'm going stupid, stupid, I'm going stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>This was pre show enough though, this is before holding

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<v Speaker 1>the club show.

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<v Speaker 2>Not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gonna get to that. Yeah, that's my ship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That was before that. That was before any of my

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>R and B records. I think I was doing some

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<v Speaker 1>remixes for for for Eric and he was like Eric,

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Eric Simon was the first person to give me a

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars check. He was like, yo, I want

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 1>she got it. I want you to come here and

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<v Speaker 1>just give me something for this, for this, for this,

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<v Speaker 1>I want something for this right here. I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done. He's like, yo, B I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even home yet. What was going on? I'm done. He

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, let me see what I see what

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like, bro, because I mean you're done. I

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, send him back. He was like yo,

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he said, man, I got you, Bro, you have me

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>old his house.

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<v Speaker 2>So at this point, is anybody that you're working with

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 2>know what you come from?

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>A connected guys go. We kind of talk about it,

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>we talk about it. They find out, you know, you're

0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>not really wearing that though. No, no, no, I don't

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>do that. I don't do that, you know. But but

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but with Eric, I do because I know he's the

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>feast musical. I know any time I dug those because

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I know they'll they'll dial in somewhere and say what

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they want. They were like, hey, yo, maybe they want

0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 1>something from a catalog, you know what I mean, or

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I can help him with something or whatever.

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I always you know, not if I know you the

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<v Speaker 1>funk lord. I mean, okay, my my prop is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the funk lords. You know what I'm saying. Three

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand see my daddy. He dropped down on one knee, like, man, yo.

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I.

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Got this outfit from there, you know what I'm saying.

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>It was like that, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Wow, that history is amazing, bro, man, I don't know.

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Over twenty years and this is news to me. Yeah,

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the intricacies of it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I think we just you know, we just just it

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 2>was just two kindred spirits. We just tapped in and

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 2>just just got the running without ever really talking.

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we're looking, we know what it is. Yeah, we

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.439
<v Speaker 1>we didn't need to talk. Pretory. Barry Barry knew what

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 2>He knew okay, because he he was He's like, what

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you so bad from back there?

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I had I had a record. It was called

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 1>age ain't nothing but a number? Mm okay, but it

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't go like age ain't nothing but number. It wasn't

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 1>that but that. Then I used to go back and

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>forth on the phone with Rob Kelly with my ideas. Ship.

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 1>One day he called ship. Matter of fact, he didn't

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>even call it, just came on the radio and I

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>was like, Rob, hey, hey man, hey man, what I

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 1>got to do for you?

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 3>What I gotta.

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Knew the phone call was coming. I said, come on now.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>He said, you know what, the only reason why I

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna beat you up, I ain't gonna jump you.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>He said, because one I'm not using that song to

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>yours is better than mine. That's what I said. You

0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>killed that. You you deserve that. You deserve that bite,

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I said, But but I got to get you. I

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 1>got to get you. I said. No, when I do it,

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.920
<v Speaker 1>don't say nothing. When I do it, don't say nothing. Yeah,

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 1>watch him out. Yeah. So we always had a friendly

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>little thing going on. But you know, man, that's that's

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a shame by Rob. But that's that's a hard one.

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, uh, we know I've been knowing robinsonce Man

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 1>tab Dash Records. I got the week my Daddy got

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 1>the v C, the v H S R. Kelly and

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>M G M. Musically Gifted Men. He was sitting in

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>front of a garage and he had he was sitting

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.959
<v Speaker 1>on a stool and he had three guys behind him.

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>They were all sitting on stools in front of a garage.

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 1>And he had a brush and he was singing in

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>the brush and he was singing slow Dance. It was

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a demo and he had a song called Dance with Me,

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>and the song Danced with Me, he ended up changing

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the hook and when he dropped his first single as

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>public announcement, it was Vibe Vibe Vibe. And then when

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>he of the verses, the verses from Dance with Me,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how far I go back.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Wow, the fact that you can even recall all this

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>ship is amazing.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. I mean, but it's like a hieroglyphic in

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>your brain because it's like it comes it's still come

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 1>from greatness, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean,

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>how you gonna forget that? How are you gonna forget

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>being backstage with Michael Jackson. I'll be back on stage

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>with Michael Jackson and he just be like you know,

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.959
<v Speaker 1>telling your dad how great he is. I'm like, did

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you like what you right? He said? I remember that time, man,

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>you did this riff, And I mean, I'm still mismerized

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>today about it. I'm like insane, you know what I mean, Like,

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>come on, bro, I think we all had Jimmy Curls

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:54.719
<v Speaker 1>at the time. I see it. I can see it.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, come on, now, come on, So are

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>you still pursuing your artists.

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Now this point? Now what it is in Atlanta, I'm

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>just supporting people. I'm just you know, we got Javanda

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>one and the Trap Stars, which we talked a little

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>bit about right now, I'm talking about we talking about.

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.959
<v Speaker 2>We got back to when you when you you at

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>mc bree Cribs, producing and writing for all these artists

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>in your mind, are you still an.

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Artist at this now? No?

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Then, like when you when you're in Atlanta, you first

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>get here and you're working on all these different artists,

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>are you still trying to like, I still get my

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>record deal? I said, no, you that's the thing in

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>the past. At this point.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I meant, I mean, I'm a side artist. That's how

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like. You know what I'm saying. I was

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Nate Dog. Even back then you was

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>hopping on. The dog might drop an album, but Nate

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Dog really just want to jump on. And you know

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I'm with a dog pound, you know

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Right, it's like that, I'd rather be

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>with the crew, you know what I'm saying, and just

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>going to you know what I mean?

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>So you get your you get your first ten thousand,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>yeah from Eric sermon.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>M hmm. What's what's the next steps for you? Do

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you? You know?

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you have have you learned about I mean, obviously

0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>you came from the business, your father, your mother, but like,

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>are you now pursuing those type of things like Okay,

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give me a publishing deal, I'm trying to

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 2>figure out how to get some song deals at these labels.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Are you doing any of that type of stuff yet?

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Are you still just no, I wouldn't even I wouldn't

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>even that wouldn't even know my mind until noontime, No time, Yes,

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>no time came. After show enough, show show enough. My

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>boy Tila called me on the phone. Get get the

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>phone called you Really you ain't really over there from it?

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know who come on Tila James. So,

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Tila Man, one of my really good brothers. He called me,

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and you say, man, he already told me. He said, bro,

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call you man. You know, uh, they're talking

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>about over a swab house. They want to sign me.

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So Tila calls me and

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>we go back. We go over the over, back to Memphis.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I go back to Memphis, to the House of Blues.

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>So we we recording. One day, we were kicking. It

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't vibing too tough. So I said, hey, man, what

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>we need to do is we need to go get

0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 1>some information. Guys, let's go get inspired. Let's go to

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the Gentleman's. That's about somebody sitting on your lap and

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and have a conversation with having a cocktail.

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>I understand me.

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we went did that. I think we

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>brought a couple of party favorites back to the lap.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. We had a new bank

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>got sentiment. Yeah, we had a fresh We had a

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>fresh new banks.

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>So we were so we were, we were and all

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of feminine poetry to.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 4>Running around a whole lot of bathing body, little bouquets

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:58.719
<v Speaker 4>of it.

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>It was bouquets of it. Yeah. So we get back

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and that boy Taylor walks around here, has some drinking,

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>he has some in his hand, and he said, first thing,

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>he said, we had the beat already, and I already

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>I had most of it. The only sound I didn't

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>have was that that That was the icing, right. Where

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>do you get that from? Holder? Before you feel? Where

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>did you get that Juno one O six the information? Yeah?

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.719
<v Speaker 1>That Juno World six. Yeah, that boy, that sound and

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I played it live on twenty four on on forty

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>eight tracks. You know what I'm saying. We got two

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>we got we got the Master and the slave running. Yeah,

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So the Master and the slave.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah if you fruity, yeah, all you little flat on.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>The tape machine. One tape machine is about that big

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and about that tall from the ground. Yeah, yeah, you

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So a real piece of two

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>of them side by, because one is only twenty four

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>tracks and the other one is another twenty fourth man.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So the master runs the sleigh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>you hear you. Your master runs the sleigh and they

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>follow and they rock back and forth. And anyway now

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they need that information. Yeah, yeah, how you can google it?

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>And that sound yeah stily in my.

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Ear student, the old student. That sound in my early

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>days was the that was the South call out for me.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, what's that that song? That sound? Oh white yo, yeah,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>your white. I was like deep looks shout out, shout

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>out to all these people. Dj uh uh kicker pre

0:33:55.840 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>because the deep, the New York DJs were really uh

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>uh kind of galvanized going everywhere, you know what I'm saying.

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 1>And they were like because you know, they were like

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>down with puff, they were down with people who were

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>really throwing party parties. You know what I'm saying. You

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.720
<v Speaker 1>had es and s, you had you had biz biz

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.240
<v Speaker 1>shout out the biz. Shout out to Martin Monty montic

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>rest in peace of Manti that he was one of

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>the guys, one of my guys back in the day

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that really kind of took me out, and you know

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>all of that. But but all of those DJs really

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like helped, you know, I say the East Coast DJs

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>because they had such a big bandwidth. Their bandwidth was

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>unreal and in the South, all we had to do

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 1>was press play it was already jamming all that. All

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the DJ's pretty much got on it at once. But

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>what really made us big was when Outside and New

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>York start playing it. When they said this is the

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>sound of the South. I was like, oh my god,

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what they play. I was like, if I played

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>my song when they when they play the South in DC. Yeah,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>when they say when they play something from the South.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>That was the first song they played that started the

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>whole South set. They got you ready, that's crazy.

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>And get you singing. It was almost like, yeah they

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>got this wag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was that. It

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>was exactly that.

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Back then because it's like, oh, nickclock. They thought I

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>was like in church or something, Tabernaca, you know what

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So we did that record and it just

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>changed the game. And that's when Nooney was looking for me.

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Nonie was like, who is Jasey Faye? Then my boy?

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>One farmer one farmer shot at to one farmer because

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>one farmer said, hey man, it's these guys.

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>They're doing a whole lot of stuff. They work with Diddy,

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>they work with everybody, you know. And he was just

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>like they over in Houston. So on Pea Street, he said, man,

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>come on, follow him up to dark and then we're

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna ride over there. So I followed him

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>up up to the spot and then I met noon

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in them, and after I met knowing them, I was

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>with him like every day, every day. That's where I

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>met John Tay. Then be Cox came I think probably

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be Cox literally came in. I think he might have

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>been bubbling around, but I kind of met him probably

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>about three weeks after me being over there. Anthony Dent,

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Jada Walker, Donny Skant, Donny Skance, Chris Hicks, Uh, try

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Tellry Uh, of course, Noony R. G Ryan Glover, everybody,

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Teddy Bishop, Yes, Teddy Bishop.

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Man, yeah.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I think that first couple of months,

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean some of the records that were done at

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>noontime was like records like Friend of Mine. I watched

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Price come in and lay that record with Jada

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>in one take. I mean, well like that, like.

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I make sure y'all go listen to Kelly Price Friend

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>of Mine, and then in your head say to your son,

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 2>take she sang this down, bro, one.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Take and said listen, I got to go and feed

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>this baby. Pick I got real to do. You're right,

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 1>you got it all right, right, all right, give me

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>my email it to me once you get it, when

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>you get everything.

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>And so so it was noontime already a studio before

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you got there street.

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>We were downtown over there, right by over there by uh,

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>right by the dome, okay, right by the and then

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you built that spot yep. Then we moved over to

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>where you came to over nine. Yes, yes, the time.

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 3>What a time?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? What a time?

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Those those were real, like you know, that was that

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>was school. That was boot camp for me. Yeah, being

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 2>down there with you off for that long, oh man,

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 2>that was right camp, learning from you, learning from Teddy

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Bishop as I had the NPCC three thousand didn't sound

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:07.240
<v Speaker 2>like yours.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you know what I was like, I

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't sound like what's what's in yours? We used to

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I used to take we used to take the Newmark mixer,

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the Newmark that had the EQ at the top. Y'all show,

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>y'all show me. So I would go and I would,

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I would, I would, you know, have a record, and

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I would just keep on bringing that joint back until

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever kick I was trying to whatever sound I was

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to get. I had the thing just hitting so

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>hard right there at the threshold, and it was just

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>about to just bust. And it might even be peeking,

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but as long as it wasn't my ear. Yeah, yeah,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's good, y'all show me when I put him

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 1>in there. I tell the engineers all the time, Hey man,

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to mix that. Just push it up, Just

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>just turn it up, just push it up. Yeah, that's

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>all already. Yeah, you ain't got to do all.

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>That was what I used to call the noontime stick.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>You hear me, they care They came out of the planet.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Fact that you'll eq something crazy.

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>But see what we would do is Leslie or or

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>whoever was at the time mixing the record. It might

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 1>be John Fry, I'd be like, hey John, me those

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>those stemps. It might be Teddy Bishop record, and we

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>all had the same sounds, so we had so we

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 1>built something called the Noontime Sounds, and me and Teddy,

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Me and Teddy kind of led the pack with the

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Noontime Pack though, because like we were really like the

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>quirky guy, like like the nerdy guys with the sound.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like that one sound that came from No, that

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>came that, that came from uh.

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Water waterfalls.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the firm worm. Yeah. God hold, I got

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 1>guess what I can't whar.

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Do do do do do?

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Do?

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Do do do?

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Do?

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Do?

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you do? Do?

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 1>What? What is that? Soul soul sisters? Yeah, it's a

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>sound that happens on the FLI I was cutting ship up. Yeah,

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that was cutting listen. That was the classes that was

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the sound that was a little master class for Yeah,

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like that's where you got that sound from.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because now now all that now, all of these

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 2>things are just impacts, but their sounds they actually come

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Some came from that lady that uh that that di'angelo

0:40:59.400 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 2>album Do.

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>A Bunch Absolutely absolutely where he goes right there. I

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>had all all of them. I had all those sounds.

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>A CON's first sounds, those sounds, those were all my sounds.

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>That He'll tell you all of my sounds. Didn't even

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 2>now jes face sounds. Okay, So bro, let's let's let's

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:27.799
<v Speaker 2>get it to this. Come on, you got to tell

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 2>the record out going crazy newly looking for you.

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Noon time in it?

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, Lord, what is what is what is the next

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 2>big moment because now you're now you're part of a crew, y'all.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Y'all are part of something that's that everybody around the

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 2>country is here about.

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Because you got the big street record. Yes, but when does.

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 2>The global national like not more so you know, that's

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 2>a street and it's more regional and and it's it's

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:57.240
<v Speaker 2>more beloved, it cultural.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>When do you get like a chart like Okay, all right,

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:06.879
<v Speaker 1>I was working, I was working over at Dark. At Dark,

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I had kind of we we left the actual nine

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven building Noonie and I and we kind of

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>went on and we kind of started to grow apart,

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>grow apart.

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Argie was going over to you know tb a with

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>with doing his thing, and Chris was doing his thing

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>with publishing, and me and Nooney were still you know, rocking.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So we went over and started rocking with Dallas. So

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Dallas gave me a little cubby hole over in the side.

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>It was the d room, and Dallas wasn't really doing

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>much over there. He was kind of like on the hiatus.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 1>He was just you know, being that was Austin traveling dances. Yes,

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>me and King Dallas Austin powers, yeah right right, living

0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in life. So I'm over there and and and there.

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Noony caused me one day and says, hey, man, uh

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>t a coming by and he wants to play. He

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>wants to show you this group. And it was three girls,

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>three girls in the group. So three girls, he said, Man,

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>tell me what you think about Sharty right there. I said,

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>she's a superstar. She said, that's her, said all right,

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>bet Sierra, it was Sierra. It was Sierra. I let

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>her hang out with me at dark for like three days.

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And at this time, you gotta think sever's like seventeen

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>years old, sixteen tater seventeen maybe yeah, probably, I think

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>headed to seventeen, about to graduate. She was in twelfth grade.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>She's going to twelfth grade summertime. So she's like coming

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>up to the studio, big old house shoes and you

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. She was a little thicker than

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.759
<v Speaker 1>too than she but she was like tworking and just

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>tanking and acting, you know what I'm saying. But she

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was young. So I'm like, baby, baby, baby, did all

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:05.879
<v Speaker 1>these wrong men around here? You know what I'm saying.

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. So I'm like, hmmm, so okay, we got

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>to put this to work. You know what I'm saying.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, because she really can dance and have a

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 1>friends that they be doing some teens. I'm like, this

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 1>is before TikTok and all of y'all was just doing.

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was seeing this. I'm just behind this. I'm like, okay, okay.

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.319
<v Speaker 1>So we go in the studio and we work. The

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>first time we work. First time we work, we did

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a song.

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 3>You changed the game.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, get thug stout. Me and John Tae Austen

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Smash Cold record. I think the next four or five

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>records that we did that same week are all on

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the album. That's how I was how much of a

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>vibe we had. And she kires Stewart rest is soul shake.

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh I called Shake. Let's shay hear it? Loving it?

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Uh. He's like, man, I

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>want you to I want you to get in with

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>La Re. I want you to get in with La Man.

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>La wants to meet what you hearing stuff about you

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. So I went over there over

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>there to hit co and met with La and so

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing l A all these records. I'm like, Okay,

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he go to slick Rick record I got a slick

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>rick record, outcast, slick wrecking out cass on this jam

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 1>walk up. So he like, dang, I'm playing with Joe

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>record I me and John Tay was working on. Then

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.439
<v Speaker 1>I played him like some Chris Brown he was working on.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And he said, chezy okay, stop stop, stop stop. He said.

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>All those records are great records, he said, but I

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>need to know what what you got from me. You

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 1>got what you have it there? Yeah, yeah you have.

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But see I had never been in one of those meetings.

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I was just fortunate enough to be around here just

0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>placing records everywhere, you know what I'm saying. So that

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was my first real come to Jesus meeting, like type like,

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>come on in here and get some of this you

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>know goodness, real money in the game. Yeah, and I

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that that's what it was. And you know,

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Shaker standing behind La, He's like the girl, the girl,

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the girl. So I just bought my Bentley big flex right, Okay,

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I just bought my bent my first, my first Bentley,

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>right first, the first one. Right. So when he said that,

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I was hesitating because the whole time the CD I

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>had figured out how to get it out. Man, he

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to work leg. I mean, I'm so

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 1>in love with this CD. I don't really careful I

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>get a card list to that. You know what, man,

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I got all the all of her songs on the CD.

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm working on. I'm just like, what I's

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to do. I ain't gotta take it out. So I

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>talked to my partner. I called my partner on the

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>phone and said, man, you just and I popped it out,

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>went downstairs, popped it. I came back up, came back

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:55.359
<v Speaker 1>upstairs before his sweating because I'm trying to damn CD out.

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 1>So I come in there. You don't have af back

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>on head. I'm like, yeah, dog. So he's like yeah, man,

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 1>so come on, like, let's hear it. Let's hear it.

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:11.280
<v Speaker 1>But when I played one song on it, I think

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I think I played Thugstyle first because that was my

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.439
<v Speaker 1>favorite record. I no, I played something else. I played

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>something else and he liked it. I think I played

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.439
<v Speaker 1>looking at You, Looking at You because Temple, I'm gonna

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>get me the tempo first me. He's like, oh, I

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. Give me another one that nigga heard that

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>damn Thugs down la la la la la la la

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>la la la la lah. He was like, he was

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>just he was like, whoa is that? Where is she?

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, she's ever reheard? So right now?

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 1>He said, go get her right now, bring her here.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, bro, she is not ready. She is

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>not ready. He said, I got to leave. What time

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:51.479
<v Speaker 1>am I leaving?

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Y'all?

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.839
<v Speaker 1>He said, man, listen, I got to go. I said, bro,

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I got to get her together to meet you. I

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>can't just she would kill me if I try to

0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>bring you. You know what I'm saying. He was like, listen,

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>can y'all be here tomorrow at ten o'clock in the

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.719
<v Speaker 1>morning before I leave? I said, yes, we can. Yes,

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Sir came back. As soon as he saw her, I

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>had everybody with me. I ain't you know what I mean.

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm being ghetto. I'm robin everybody. He walks in that way,

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>I got people standing all in the way. He's like,

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 1>where is she? And he's seeing her and he just

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>put his arms out. He's like, oh yeah, oh yeah.

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>We ran down all the records and he was like,

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, this is it. It was it Sierra, Wow, Sierra.

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>So do you science the Sierra signed two years already

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>signed to me.

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is the first artist on show. Sure

0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 2>enough here and at this point before this you had

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>had no label. No, it starts with you and CC Yeah.

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, oh yeah. At Dark Studio. Oh boy, oh boy. Look,

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the boy Dallas didn't even know we had Goodies was

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:04.840
<v Speaker 1>out and I think on uh uh Total Request Live

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>t r L. Yeah, it was on tr number one

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>on t r L for like two weeks. Dallas calls

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.399
<v Speaker 1>me on the phone, Hey, bro, I'm on I'm over

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:17.760
<v Speaker 1>here looking at MTV and the little girl, oh ciarra,

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the girl, the girl you got is number one. Man,

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you ain't let me get on this album. I was like, bro,

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I've been trying to tell you. I know what he

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:48.279
<v Speaker 1>calling because we got the mastermind here. Yeah, not just

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the mind, but the mastermind. It's in his blood. What's

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>with the stars in the roof? Bawn in and I

0:49:55.200 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>sworn in it? Oh yes, lord, what you got born

0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:10.720
<v Speaker 1>chief Jesse Finzel. Oh boy, it's the old boy himself,

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 1>mister oh boy himself.

0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 2>You know a lot about music, everything about real music,

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>real music, trio.

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Music, from the soil, from the soil.

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:27.280
<v Speaker 2>From the soil and in your times of being born

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<v Speaker 2>and to this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know you. You found some music that is.

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 5>Part of your top five, your top five, top five,

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:53.919
<v Speaker 5>top five, your top five everything.

0:50:55.080 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah ala be song, you got you, you got do s, you.

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Got you grow. I know you know you want to

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:35.760
<v Speaker 1>know your Yeah yea Finzie oh boys five yeah, yes,

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Lord one three four.

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 2>H Finzel your top five. As the fifth member of Singer.

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why I am fifth members of JAD Me and

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Pete met and Pete Pablo and uh Kenny Burns are

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>all the fifth member of j and the the sixth

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>member of joas Waxy Yeah all together. Now, I always

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 1>been a member of Jones as well, you know, under.

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, under yeah, under the oh yeah act. Shout them though.

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 2>He would have loved that, oh yeah yeah. Top five.

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's go for you. It is yours, yours, for you,

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 2>not the world. What makes you girl.

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You're going to Bobby, You're going Bobby first or or Hobby.

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:48.959
<v Speaker 1>That's a little different, do you because it's yours. It's yours. Luther, Yeah, yeah,

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 1>big Luther. Little Luther said big look big, definitely big. Yeah.

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't like in sha, it's your list I'm sorry

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>always I'm disrespecting. That's what the father was great. He's great,

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, come on, I respect you. You know,

0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to smoke bucket the chicken, all right,

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So Jerry, Jerry, I know y'all get that bucket from me.

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>He's made a fierce card game. Yeah. See vocalists R

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and B whatever your world.

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, every everything starts and everything starts, yeah, Darryl Coley.

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah everything, Okay, everything starts him starts with him. Yeah, yeah, him.

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 2>He spawned so many children, from the Joe's to the Marios.

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I got like, I got so many of those. I

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 1>got so many. That's that's so. That's three. I want

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to I want to put a lady in there. I

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, because I got so many of

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 1>them that that I love. But you know what, somebody

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that I really enjoy their vocals. Jasmine Sullivan. Why not?

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I love her? Why not? I just love her. She'd

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>be going through a thing on that Michael phone board. Man,

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:31.959
<v Speaker 1>I'll be going through it with her. What she's saying about,

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that's what I already know. She coming back. She's gonna

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 1>going back to gospel at the end. I know she's

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 1>going back that. Okay, that's four. Why not? Hi, I'm

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 1>so tired and just how and that was a fight

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>between him and I. I already did a gospel but man,

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know I still love the John B Keys, of course,

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come, I guess Godfather Jef V Key and

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Mervin and Fred Hammond and all the Commission records. I'm

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just such a fan. I'm over such a fan

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of Commission.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we're gonna get another shot on the top

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>five R and B songs songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mm

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 2>hmmm do.

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 1>The things big wan say. No, you got to stay

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.479
<v Speaker 1>on your pis and cues. Are you going?

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Woman's gotta have it going, Woman's gotta have it, Woman's

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:42.280
<v Speaker 2>got Yeah, he's going there, Al.

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Green, Oh look what you've done to me? Look what

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you've done to me. Oh yeah, he came in here

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 1>with full Cadillac music. Yeah, Stevie wonder m tens ten

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>zillion light years away. They say that heat tens you know,

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 1>light years away.

0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 5>That.

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a fight between that and all that's fair

0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and love that loves the crazy. Guess yeah, it takes

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 1>his pen. Oh man, come on, now, a song for

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you m down. They had the way. Yeah, and it's

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a fight between that and someday we'll all be free.

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Because that song brings me to tears because of where

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 1>we are. You know what I mean socially and what

0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it meant and the time of it. You know what

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Uh, I got one more commission running back

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:51.799
<v Speaker 1>to you. Go ahead and sit up because they feel

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:57.360
<v Speaker 1>me that record right there? Yeah, that song made me.

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 1>That song made me see Jesus like when I with

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 1>my eyes open. You know what I'm saying. It made me.

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>It made me understand my relationship with the Man of

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Stealth and when I want to see them live. You know,

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it was just me. It's crazy, friends and vocals. Come on.

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 1>That man is still trying to it. He was looking

0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 1>He's just looking at the Lord.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Man, that's very spiritual. And you know we will go

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>top ten because I gotta go. Uhhh my god, oh

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my god. Who don't feel it in they? So I

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>just said that stopped feeling right in the arch of

0:57:56.480 --> 0:58:01.680
<v Speaker 1>my foot. Do you feel me? Yeah? What about what

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.919
<v Speaker 1>about stair Away to Heaven? Oh, you're gonna keep going

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>step step Come on, So man locks somewhere man, it's

0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>an'thing to get torn close up. God, Come on, man,

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>let's think about that. Think about that's all I listened to.

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Listen hipping Mane.

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Lenny said, if it's in God's will, how can a

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 2>woman say to you when you say that to her?

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Hey? Man, comes on, you got your and they hit

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that note? Yeah right, I'm gonna leave Leny alone whatever

0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 1>we can have that note. He gotta come over here

0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>do that note?

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 5>Man?

0:58:53.160 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he he still got it. He Yeah, was a problem.

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 1>You feel me? Top fifteen, Come on, here we go.

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's make your vote.

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Ron, Let's make your super r and b artists you're supers.

0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Hold on, we're gonna put all the pieces together, all right.

0:59:14.440 --> 0:59:16.720
<v Speaker 2>We need to know who you're gonna get the vocal

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 2>from for your artists, who you're gonna get the performance

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:23.680
<v Speaker 2>style from, the styling from, and the heart.

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Of the artists. And for you, who's gonna produce for him? Yeah,

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>who're gonna get the voice? Who're gonna get the vocal

0:59:31.200 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>for your super the artists? My vocal? Oh that's a

0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>hard one, but not really the vocal?

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 1>What this goes on? We ain't went Let's go to Charlie.

0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go Uncle Charlie, Uncle Charlie with oh but

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 1>our performance because.

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You wait us let us let us enjoy this joy,

1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Charlie. Man performance performance style on that stage.

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh only because I know people are gonna say that

1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:17.480
<v Speaker 1>don't match.

1:00:17.840 --> 1:00:21.640
<v Speaker 2>They don't have to match Michael Jackson Man, what that

1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:22.920
<v Speaker 2>absolutely matches.

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:27.640
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. He was just so impeccable. He's the

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he's the standard. I was there when when he when

1:00:31.160 --> 1:00:35.200
<v Speaker 1>he did MOTWN twenty five. You were there. I wasn't

1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:37.040
<v Speaker 1>at the place, but I mean I was. I know

1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:38.880
<v Speaker 1>where I was. I know exactly where I was. I

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:40.919
<v Speaker 1>was sitting in front of my great grandmama TV. Yeah.

1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is that screaming? Screaming? When that

1:00:45.000 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>man said definitely I like the new song on, I

1:00:50.800 --> 1:00:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was changed my life.

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 2>And the next the very I went to school and

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:57.760
<v Speaker 2>did the moonwalk, the styling of the artist.

1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 1>The drift of the artist, because we know that's what

1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you do. You're gonna do your you've been doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen here Teddy rolling guy. Oh oh when they first

1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:16.840
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, the first guy out grew.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Timmy, I say with a levefore before crazy lads

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<v Speaker 2>got group.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to say that was the first one

1:01:26.520 --> 1:01:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen with that, that album with the real name

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 1>fly name changed with diamonds.

1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to tell guy right now, y'all can wear

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that right right now, get off.

1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:39.280
<v Speaker 1>That was off right now. That was the first one

1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to wear the big name changed with the diamonds on them.

1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:43.560
<v Speaker 2>The passion of the artists, the heart of the artist.

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:53.920
<v Speaker 2>James Quick, easy easy, kick your ass in the ass

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<v Speaker 2>on the stage, off the stage, on the airplane.

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<v Speaker 3>I love good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Who's producing for this artist? M two guys okay, Quincy

1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:11.560
<v Speaker 2>and Finzel?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. What are we talking about? Because I always

1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:19.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to work with him? What are we talking about?

1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, who?

1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Quincy and Finz? Oh boy, oh boy? Not

1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Jacky fa yeah, fin.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What else we got for chief? Uh? I ain't saying

1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:45.280
<v Speaker 1>no nig I ain't saying no name. I ain't saying

1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:50.640
<v Speaker 1>no name. I ain't saying no names. Were you what

1:02:50.840 --> 1:03:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you need? Don't say she? I ain't saying no name. Huh.

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So we've come to the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. You can't let you leave this building without this segment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called I ain't saying no names. Will you tell

1:03:15.280 --> 1:03:15.880
<v Speaker 2>us a story?

1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Funny? Are fucked up?

1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Funny and fucked up in the Travelers of Jazzy Ftle

1:03:24.440 --> 1:03:26.720
<v Speaker 2>product shistle My.

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<v Speaker 1>We need that story. We need that. I ain't saying

1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:33.960
<v Speaker 1>no names. The only rule to the game. You can't

1:03:34.040 --> 1:03:37.480
<v Speaker 1>say names. That's it. Man. Way back, I ain't gonna

1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:39.680
<v Speaker 1>say the year, because then I just started telling myself.

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<v Speaker 1>But way back, rock star status. We backstage at funk Fest,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of big groups on stage, a lot of

1:03:53.440 --> 1:03:58.080
<v Speaker 1>big groups on stage, artists on the side of the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over hearing everything because I'm a kid. I'm I'm

1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.240
<v Speaker 1>on the you know, I'm a fly on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>So police already then been aware of this guy's presence

1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in the building. And if he goes out and proceeds

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<v Speaker 1>with his regular show, he's going to jail, no questions,

1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I was saying. But or maybe he already notifies everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't nobody in Wisconsin or wherever he was at

1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:33.560
<v Speaker 1>stopping his show, the folk, the white folk, whoever they are.

1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I ain't stopping what I do. And when I get

1:04:36.960 --> 1:04:39.280
<v Speaker 1>out here and do this thing, I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready on the opposite side, because they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to come on this side where they think the stairs are.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to create a pseudo staircase over here

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<v Speaker 1>on this side. And when I smoke this weed on

1:04:54.200 --> 1:05:01.840
<v Speaker 1>this stage, I'm going to disappear cloud smoke, and we're

1:05:01.920 --> 1:05:07.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be parked. And instead of doing this sub

1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:09.360
<v Speaker 1>ending of the show, we're going to do it at

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<v Speaker 1>the very end, so to be done and the damage to

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<v Speaker 1>be done and Victor will be won. And it was done.

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<v Speaker 1>He almost got out of there, I hope and he

1:05:24.320 --> 1:05:29.880
<v Speaker 1>got out. Yeah, yeah, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he did his show. Probably guess all right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did his show. Yeah, I guess I could

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<v Speaker 2>probably guess that one. But yeah, and you was therefore

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<v Speaker 2>right there, of course, right there, he's everywhere right there,

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<v Speaker 2>he's omni president. You're like the Lord, nor lord like

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<v Speaker 2>lord like lord like more like geez.

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<v Speaker 1>Bens eld.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, Man, what can I say?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? I love you, Man, I love you. I couldn't

1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:05.720
<v Speaker 1>wait to get over here. Man, after you did that

1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:08.000
<v Speaker 1>thing with Casey, Man, that was that like I hit

1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you and told you I think that's kind of put

1:06:10.520 --> 1:06:12.720
<v Speaker 1>they put me back on your brain or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you be doing a lot, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>that thing made me weep. I don't know what it was.

1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I think because I've never seen him in that light,

1:06:21.480 --> 1:06:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, wow, I never seen Casey and that

1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:27.840
<v Speaker 1>light and and and it was like even though of

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<v Speaker 1>course we would have wanted to see Joe, to see

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<v Speaker 1>the whole group, it was just it was just enough

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<v Speaker 1>for my spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He texted me and said I laughed and cried. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, I did Broo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the great part about it was to

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<v Speaker 1>see that he was he was doing good. He was

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<v Speaker 1>doing good. You know what I'm saying. He's he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a hero. You know what I'm saying. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about you know, you know all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those thoughts like bur in my head, like

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<v Speaker 1>like we in the same like as brothers, like because

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<v Speaker 1>he was like I gotta love I was like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand, like bro because you know all of these

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<v Speaker 1>rules they used to have an R and B, like

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<v Speaker 1>you got to have an eight bar this, eight bar that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and like one of those up moments were I

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<v Speaker 1>know y'all probably had it too. When Dwayne and them

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<v Speaker 1>came in there and did four bars and went straight.

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<v Speaker 2>To the hook. Yeah, yeah, how you gonna tell me? Hey, bark,

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<v Speaker 2>they made you argue. They made you argue, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and and Just to even add to that, I was

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<v Speaker 2>with j Z, right, me and Jez, and they're working.

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<v Speaker 2>Jez said, Bro at the twelve bars, Bro, I'll be done.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the first one. He coined the twelve bar verse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, it's okay, Bro, you got a rep sixteen bars,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll change it it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm repping all my songs twelves. He put

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<v Speaker 1>all twelves on Trapper Die. Trapper Dye became the bible

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<v Speaker 1>for these trap rappers, right, all the rappers you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to get off anyway, Twelve bars is matter

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I'm still gonna get my bag and

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<v Speaker 1>I get to give you his twelve because sixteen always

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like, yeah, don't nobody want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yard dance. I want to add you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I'm about to listen to trappor Die away

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<v Speaker 1>different now. Yes, That's why I was sold, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting he getting back to that hook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, and hooks, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we love you brother, your your stories are your stories,

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<v Speaker 2>and your work and your legend. You are one of one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's maculate, man, God is good. It's a maculate you

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<v Speaker 2>good in these streets, real man.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. Yeah, and you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is this is home for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. Uh, the tap in is real, man. We'll break

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<v Speaker 2>some bread off camera, man, and yes, low until then.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Gervanda one of the Trap stars show enough of course.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. He's got young k c

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<v Speaker 1>k September.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Molly Water all all my friends do Prano Push Management,

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<v Speaker 1>Push DJ's all those guys. Man. You know guys know

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, I like it.

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