1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into the world famous Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross getting you guys ready with a two 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: hour preview show of the seahawks upcoming game against the 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Jacksonville at Jaguars. Now, before I get to that, and 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some players on by the way, DJ 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: rejoining us, Penny Hart joining us, in addition to some 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: experts Ray, Ray Roberts, and Steve Rabel. Let's take a 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: very very quick, hopefully look back at the Seahawks loss 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Monday night to the Saints. Guys, this felt like it 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: was a winnable game throughout. I mean, it really did 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: come down to a couple of missfield goals for Seattle 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: and a madefield goal for the Saints. And despite so 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: many stats that felt good keeping them to one of 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: four in the red zone, Dave, it still felt like 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: an ugly loss. Yeah, it did, and you know it 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: was there were some pretty basic things that happened that 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: they didn't take care of, you know, and we can 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: get into the quarterback play and you know some of 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: the runs and things like that, but you jumped offsides 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: when there was a field goal that made it, you know, 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: so they got a closer field goal. Anyway, you had 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to take a time out because the defense wasn't right. 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: That was when al Woods came running off the field 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: and then he got an offside's penalty running on the field. 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: And big al Woods was a hero in that game. 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: He worked his tail off. But those are situations you 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: just can't make mistakes in um And then you know, look, 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: I'll complain till the cows come home about the hit 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: by Marquise Blair on the on the sack and everybody's like, well, 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: why did he do that? Well, it's an accident. I mean, 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: nobody wants to do that on purpose and get a flag. 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: So you know, but that's a big moment there. And 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: then you know for Gino taking sacks, you know, out 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: of field goal position and you know, not giving him 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: a chance at the end. There were just a lot 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: of situations that you know that they kind of they 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: kind of blew it. But I mean, you look at 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: what they did defensively three hundred and four yards. I 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: mean that's a huge improvement. And you know, I just think, 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: to me, the other thing is I think that Alex 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Collins is a rhythm runner. He's a rhythm player. And 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: I know he got carries in the first half, but 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: it was like four here and then four later, and 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: then four you know, it's like not in a row. 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: And then for Rashad Penny, I mean, he just stops 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: his feet when he gets contact. That's the thing. He 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: does not run through contact. So I felt like they 48 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: should have just stuck with Alex Collins and gone you 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: know that way that would have been. But you know, 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: look that's hindsight. But for all of the mistakes that 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: they made, you know, in big situations, that's you know, 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: that's not what a veteran team with good leadership does. Yeah, 53 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: I very much pointed to that as well as being 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: a big takeaway from that game, as you can look 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: at and we can dive into the xs and o's 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: of all of the issues running game wise and offensively. 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: But I thought the defense played a lot better. They 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: played a lot better. They handled a team that I 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: think is not a very good offense, particularly right now, 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: especially when you have Michael Thomas that is not there. 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: You have a dynamic playmaker in Alvin Kamara that you 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: allowed allowed to still be an impact player. But outside 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: of that, I thought they played much better and the 64 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: mistakes of penalties, the mistakes of missfield goals. You're looking 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: at those, you know from that game and saying, man, 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: those are the things that if you just clean that 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: stuff up, you win the game, despite how ugly everything 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: else may have been. Yeah, you know you mentioned Kamara. 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: That was another thing I forgot to mention because some 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: of the mistakes that they're making on defense aren't specific 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: just to this defense. I've been saying that a lot 72 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: this year, but they're they're universal mistakes. And one of 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: them is like the play with Ryan Neil, where he 74 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: is he runs like an arrow route out and back in. 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: You never get beat inside. You just don't. You don't 76 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: get beat inside, make him beat you outside. And the 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: reason why is because Jamis Winston is not an accurate quarterback, 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: and every quarterback the middle of the field is a 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: much easier throw. You know, like you look at Garoppolo, 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw well outside the numbers, but and Winston 81 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: not a super accurate but that's such an easy throat 82 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: to him. It's right up the middle. So you know, 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you get beat across your face inside. I mean, that's 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: again one of those sayings. First of all, I thought, well, 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: how about we double him, you know, with m I 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: was surprised they didn't. I mean, you know, heading into 87 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: the game that he is their best offensive weapon, and 88 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: he still finished. They limited him on the ground. He 89 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: still finished though with about one hundred and seventy yards 90 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: from scrimmage. Yeah he did. And so yeah, I know 91 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: that they kind of limited him in the second half, 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: but I mean that should have been taken care of. 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: So and again it's just a it's just a general rule, 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: like you're not knowing what the defense is or not 95 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: knowing you know, and he obviously didn't have help on 96 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: the inside, but you much rather get beat outside than inside. 97 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: So anyway, just those kinds of fundamental mistakes, we're kind 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: of frustrating, but you had the defense they you know, 99 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: statistically played better. Speaking of mistakes, if there's something that 100 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: you guys would pack up and take with you or 101 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: throw away and leave behind when it comes to this game, 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: what would you do? For instance, I'd like to pack 103 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: up and take with us into this game against Jacksonville. 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: They're holding the Saints to fifteen percent on third down 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and keeping them twenty five percent in the red zone. 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: What I'd like to throw away, leave behind in the 107 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: trash at the old house is five sacks of Geno Smith. Yeah, well, 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: how many do you think also that those were on Gino? 109 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: Not right and rid of the ball? There were there were, 110 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: There were two, but the one that brought out a 111 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: field goal range. I actually broke this down on seventeen 112 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: sports dot Com and that particular play, it's cover zero. 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: They line up seven man's on the line of scrimmage. 114 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: They have the clear protection plan and it's one guy 115 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't do his job, and that's Kyle Fuller. And 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: it is a very easy move. It is. You know, 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: they got Tomorrow Davis up in the a gap and 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller snaps the ball, tries it, tries to flash 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: his hands, take a step towards him, when that's not 120 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: his job. It's travel Travis Homer's job to go up 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: and fill that gap and take Tomorrow David's head on, which, 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: by the way, he does an amazing job of doing. 123 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: He stalemates him, and Kyle Fuller lets the defensive tackle 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: who's playing a wide three technique, He lets him get 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: out and is late to the block, and Gino doesn't 126 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: even have time to react. I mean, and now you're 127 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: sacked and now you've got a fifty two yard field goal. 128 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: It's those types of execution errors that you have offensively 129 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: that just repeated itself in the run and in the 130 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: passing game from the offensive line. That was just it 131 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: was very hard to watch that aspect of it because, yes, 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: there's a physical component of it. Are you winning your 133 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: one on one battle? But mentally are you executing your job? 134 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: And that's one thing that I would like to leave 135 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: that behind us and hopefully start executing better with just 136 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: being assignment sound Well, I was gonna say one thing 137 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: that I would take with us as corner plays almost 138 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: like you got a little bit of a competition going. 139 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good thing. It used to be like, Okay, 140 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: who are we going to put in there? Now it's 141 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, Sidney Jones and Trey Brown and then I 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: think DJ Reid's playing really well. Yeah, So that that's 143 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: something that I'll pack up and take with us. One 144 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: thing I want to leave behind is not being physical 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: at the point of attack on defense. You know, you 146 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: just have to watch Damario Davis. That's how you fill 147 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: a gap, that's how you play linebacker. That's you know, 148 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: and I thought Brooks did a couple of good jobs 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: on you know, short yardage. He had a really nice hit. 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, did a good job in the middle of 151 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: the field coverage wise. But you know, we just have 152 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: to you know, you look at the Jacksonville Jaguar linebackers, 153 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: they're very physical. They attack the line of scrimmage. And 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, the other thing is, I was trying to 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: explain this somebody, but when there's a double team block 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: in front of you as a linebacker and they're doubling 157 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, you're supposed to go hit that. And 158 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: the reason why is when you hit that guard, he's 159 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: like one hundred and ninety pounds because if he's ways 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, three thirty, he's pushing on another guy and 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: so you know, it just makes him lighter and you 162 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: could blow him up if you attack that double team block. 163 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: And our linebackers aren't really doing that. And so that's 164 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: something that you know, you see some of the really 165 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: good physical defenses around the league doing and that's something 166 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I would like to leave behind. As far as catching 167 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: blocks and things like that. I'd like to see him 168 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: attack the line of scrimmage. Did you see that as 169 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: an issue in this game or is that a one 170 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of popped up throughout the season. Throughout the season. 171 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, but there was a couple of plays it 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: wasn't as obvious. The only thing that made it obvious 173 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: was watching damario'davis. I mean you saw him attack Kyle 174 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: Fuller and knock him into the backfield. I don't even 175 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: think he got the tackle on that play because Kyle 176 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Fuller actually made the tackle, yes, you know, because he 177 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: blasted him so right back. Yeah. Yeah, So I mean 178 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: that's something I think that you know, they could definitely 179 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: benefit from. Yeah. The the last thing that I'll say 180 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: is just the thing that I want to take with us, 181 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: And I was kind of going through it listening to 182 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: you guys defensively often one am I gonna pick? But 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: the one thing I would say is that we didn't 184 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: do enough of that is there for the taking in 185 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: these Jacksonville is we start to preview this team, They're 186 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna give you a lot of one on one opportunities, 187 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of one on one man demand situations. And 188 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: you know the Saints they challenge the Seahawks. They said, okay, 189 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: all right, we know what you want to do. We 190 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: know the type of team that you want to be 191 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: in this type in this game, and we're going to 192 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: load the box. We're gonna give you eight and we're 193 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: gonna give you nine man boxes. We're gonna challenge you, 194 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: and we know that you've got Tyler Lockett in DK Metcalf, 195 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: but we're gonna challenge you and see if Geno Smith 196 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: can get it done. And he beat you with an 197 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: eighty four yard touchdown to DK Metcalf. Tyler Lockett just 198 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: almost had another one. But you have to you have 199 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: to be willing to take those one on one matchup 200 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: opportunities and trust those guys to make those plays, because 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: when you run the football and you're dedicated to doing it, 202 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: you're going that's what you want. You want stacked boxes 203 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: so that you can take advantage of it with your weapons. 204 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing a more thorough opponent preview coming 205 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: up at one thirty, taking a closer look at the Jags, 206 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: the challenges or opportunities that this team brings. We're also 207 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be talking with Seahawks reporter John Boyle about 208 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: the state of the team right now, injury updates, competitions, 209 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: who could be starting that hasn't been before all of 210 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: that coming up at twelve forty five. Before that, though, 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: we've got back to back player interviews. Here, we're getting 212 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: started with cornerback DJ Reid. Don't go anywhere. This is 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: the huddle. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, 214 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross getting you guys ready for a Week 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: eight matchup between the Seahawks and the Jags. This one 216 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: going to be at lumin Field. Let's hope the weather 217 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: is a little bit better this time. Also going to 218 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: be a Halloween Day matchup. I don't know, Wyman. I'm 219 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: assuming that you're wearing a costume in your broadcast with Raves. 220 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: My costume will be a jacket and tie. Have you 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: thought about dressing up as Steve Rabel? Oh that's a 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: good one. How do I age myself? They're heres? I 223 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: think about it. Listen, I am wearing a Halloween tie. 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: It'll be black works. All right, that's good now, Jake, 225 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: are you add a little you know, like fake blood 226 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: to it, which you know would add to the element 227 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: of it? Can talk to us? You were talking about 228 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: death exactly. I was driving in I almost had to 229 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: change the channel. It's just like you started thinking about 230 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: your existence, like, who's going on? Look, the Astros just 231 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: make me question my own mortality. That's all. That's a 232 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: very dark moment. You're worse than Bob Stalton. He hates 233 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: him and you start talking about death. Well, we're we're 234 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna be able to see a team that has an 235 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: opportunity against a Jags team that's really really struggled this year, 236 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: and we're going to be doing a little more of 237 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: a preview of what's going on. But what have you 238 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: guys made of urban Meyer's first year as head coach. 239 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: It's been very very unique, I would say, uh, in 240 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: terms of how this has gone for him and really 241 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: what he is. He is a figurehead. When you look 242 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: at urban Meyer and what he has put together in 243 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: the structure and which he has gone about it, he 244 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: has been a figurehead. So you have Brian Schottenheimer and 245 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Darryl Bevil who are lee the offense. You have Joe Collins, 246 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: who is a you know, very much a veteran defensive 247 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: minded guy who's a defensive line coach with the Baltimore 248 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: Ravens for the past five years. He's the one who's 249 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: in charge of the defense. So I would say that 250 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: for urban Meyer, his job has been to establish a culture, 251 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: to establish respect, to establish those things, and he has 252 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: not done a good job of that. But despite that, 253 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: you do see development from the Jacks. You see it 254 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: from the players. You see it in terms of their 255 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: scheme and playing within that scheme. They've had some better 256 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: games of recent you know, playing the Bengals really tough, 257 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: nearly winning that game, and then the Dolphins. They took 258 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: those guys into overtime. So you see flashes and glimpses 259 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: of this talented roster playing better. But in terms of 260 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: urban Meyer has been a very shaky whyman, I see 261 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: you with your flip card. What have you made of 262 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: this team so far? Yeah? I was just watching the 263 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: Miami game they played over in London and it's the 264 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: one game they won. And it's just like every week 265 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: you start watching the film and go, oh, that guy 266 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: can ball. Look at that guy's good? You know, I 267 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: see a physical team. James Robinson amazing. He was a 268 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: free agent in twenty twenty. He had like fourteen hundred 269 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage last year, ten touchdowns and what is 270 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: he at now? Like six hundred almost and he's got 271 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: five touchdowns. So I mean it's just a reminder that 272 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: just ballers on every team, every team has him. Him 273 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: and Jamal Agnew who they got from Detroit. That kid, 274 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's five ten, one ninety. He wants to 275 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: run people over. You know, he's a tough guy. So 276 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you've got Trevor Lawrence. We'll see, 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, what they can throw at him, try to 278 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: confuse him a little bit. I would just say, you know, 279 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: a lot of times what we're doing is trying to 280 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: jump things and trying to play hunches and things like that. 281 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: And I wonder if there's going to be more of 282 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: that with Trevor Lawrence out there, because they're thinking, Okay, 283 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: this guy's a rookie. But but no, I mean as 284 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: far as the team goes, I mean, Urban Meyer the 285 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: weirdest thing. I know, everybody's making fun of the whole thing, 286 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and there was like supposedly something in a yeah so, 287 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: but the weirdest thing to me was that it was 288 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: a Thursday game and he stayed behind. Yeah, it didn't 289 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: fly back with the team, The coach didn't didn't go 290 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: back with the team. That's unheard of. Yep. So that 291 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: was the thing that honestly bothered me the most. But 292 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know. We talked to the 293 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: professor every day and all he does is rip Urban Meyer. 294 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: It calls him Urban Myers, and I think he's doing 295 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: it out of disrespect. But yeah, I mean, you know, 296 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: he's it seems like it's okay. I mean, I you 297 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: haven't You've heard a few things come out of there 298 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: where people were thinking that, you know, maybe he wasn't 299 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: doing a great job, but it's I don't feel like 300 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: he's lost the team or anything like that. But um, 301 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a big, big difference between we've seen 302 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: with college players going to pro and vice versa that 303 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it doesn't work out. Jake, you know 304 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks. How's Trevor Lawrence been looking? Honestly, I've really 305 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: liked the progression that I've seen from him over the 306 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: course of the season. And this guy is a very 307 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: talented passer. I mean, when you talk about is he 308 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: worth being the first overall pick? Very much so he 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: can make all the throws. He is a very athletic kid, 310 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: and right now he's going through adversity with an organization 311 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: that is not built to win right now, and how 312 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: do you handle losing after experiencing really your first regular 313 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: season loss of your entire life. It happened at the 314 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: NFL level, and so there's been a lot of growth 315 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: that he's needed to do. You look at the way 316 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: that he has played so far this season. His interception 317 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: numbers were very high in the first couple of games 318 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: right now. Yes, that's averaged out a little bit. It 319 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: has averaged out. I mean his first three games he 320 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: threw at least two picks. Two his first game he 321 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: through three two and then two, and then since then 322 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: he is taking better care of the football. And by 323 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: no surprise, when he's taking care of the football there 324 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: they have had a shot. The Jags have been in 325 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: those games in which he does not throw an interception. 326 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: So that's really going to be the key as you're 327 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: looking at at Trevor Lawrence is does he turn the 328 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: ball over or not? And as he's growing and trying 329 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: to find his way in this league, he's learning what 330 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: he can't and can't do, and that is what stood 331 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: out to me. But overall, I think he's got a 332 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: very very bright future. You know, It's funny I was 333 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: looking at the way Russ started his career and the 334 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: reason why he's in all of these record books with 335 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and everything is because he started out right 336 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: in the very beginning. But Trevor Lawrence is too. But 337 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: at this at the first eight games, Russ had ten 338 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns and eight interceptions. So but then you look at 339 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: and there were four and four at that point halfway through. Yeah, 340 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: but then they went on a tear and Seahawks finished 341 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: seven and one and Russ the rest of the way 342 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: for the second eight through sixteen touchdowns and just two interceptions. 343 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: So you know, he really turned it around. I mean, 344 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: Russ has become like the gold standard for quarterbacks as 345 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: far as efficiency goes lack interceptions. And then you know, 346 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: starting from the very beginning, you look at almost every quarterback. 347 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, Trevor Lawrence is going to be maybe one 348 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: of these guys like Russ, but almost every quarterback started 349 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: off with like on the bench. And you know, and 350 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: especially in the old days, it used to be like 351 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: even John Elway, you know, he wasn't starting right away, 352 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: and then he got in the game and lined up 353 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: underneath the guard. Do you ever hear that story? Yeah? Yeah, 354 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: he went on into the guard and then they're like, 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: oh sorry, somebody on defense was like under joining us 356 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: right now speaking of defense, cornerback DJ read DJ. I 357 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: know it's not where you guys want to be right now, 358 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: but you have to move forward. You have to look 359 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: ahead to Jacksonville. So walk us through after that game. 360 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: What was the conversation like in the locker room. Well, 361 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: it was tough as you would imagine. Yeah, just you know, 362 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: being in close games and just now finishing. You know, 363 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of plays. You know, it takes a 364 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: whole football game, but being so close and playing so well, 365 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: it's pretty just frustrating to say the least. But I mean, 366 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: we got the right guys in our locker rooms, so 367 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep you know, competing and setting a tone 368 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: and you know we're gonna eventually start winning. Especially when 369 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: you look at the turnover ratio. We're doing good. We're 370 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: plus three for the season, which is number ten in 371 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. So we got to just keep doing what 372 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: we're doing and just make an emphasis on finishing well. 373 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: In DJ, it seems like, you know, a big part 374 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: of the defense and Pete Carroll's defenses are always about 375 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: the defensive backfield and you guys at corner, we've got 376 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: it kind of locked down. It seems like there's maybe 377 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: a competition going on the other side. And then you 378 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: know you're playing really well right now. Do you guys 379 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: feel as a group as a defensive backgroup pretty solid 380 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, I feel like we're pretty solid, but 381 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: I feel like we could obviously get better, including myself. 382 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: You know, I had a big pass interference call on 383 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the third and five that ended up with three points, 384 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: and you know, they ended up winning by three. So 385 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: I look at all the case scenarios in which I 386 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: could have been better and I could have played with 387 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: more clean hands on that play, even though I felt that, 388 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't a good call, but I mean 389 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: just looking at it, seeing what I could do differently, 390 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: it's got to be, you know, just tighter and coverage 391 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: and playing with better and cleaner hands. But as far 392 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: as the DV room, I feel like we're starting to 393 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: gel together. Our third down winning rate right now, it 394 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: is very hard, so we've got to keep it going. Well. DJ, 395 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad you have that attitude because you have to. 396 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: But that was a BS call. I'm sorry. I complained 397 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: about it for three plays after that, and anyway, djuh, 398 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, he's talking about that progression. And I've been 399 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: looking specifically at you in the turn that you've made 400 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: this season, starting with really with the forty nine Ers game. 401 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: You know, has there been something that you have been 402 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: able to look at and point you individually and say, hey, 403 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: I've got to start doing this again and get back 404 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: to this. Or is it just the fact, the simple 405 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: fact of you you're more comfortable being on the other 406 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: side of the field than where you started the first 407 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: three games. Yeah, I think it's the simple fact that 408 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: I moved to the side that I was playing at 409 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: right corner. I would say, I'm just more comfortable on 410 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: that side. To be honest with you, as far as 411 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: just when I watch film, I'm comfortable looking more on 412 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: that side than knowing what I do. And that probably 413 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: comes from me playing that side when I was at 414 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: Kansas State, so I've been playing that for years instead 415 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: of the left corner. It's kind of funny because I 416 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: didn't think it would be much of a difference, but 417 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: playing left corner felt different to me than playing right corner. Yeah, 418 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I can see it in the play man and it's 419 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: it's not to say that the other side was, you know, 420 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: horrific or anything like that, but I just see it 421 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: in the confidence and you know, you playing press and 422 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: you you playing the way that you did last year. 423 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: You can just see the confidence who's through you. When 424 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: you feel that comfort, you know what does it allow 425 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: you to do out on the field. Yeah, it's just 426 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: a comfort thing, just like some people prefer playing strong 427 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: safe did in free safety vice versus. So for me, 428 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: it's just I'm just out there playing football. I'm not 429 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: really thinking, I look at the formation. I'm just comfortable. 430 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: So it just allowed me to play free DJ. One 431 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: of the players that you made that was so good 432 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: was in the Pittsburgh Steeler game and it looked like 433 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: you you thought you could have had it. It looked 434 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: like it would have been a tough catch. But you've 435 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: got a great pass rush there by Darryl Taylor that 436 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: that you know, as far as your guys coordination, you know, 437 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: you're covering long enough for them to get home. Them 438 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: getting home and forcing a throw like that, That's it's 439 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: a pretty tight relationship, right Amos. Definitely it goes hand 440 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: in hand. You know, it starts with the guys up front. 441 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: When they get pressure, that makes quarterbacks make mistakes and 442 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: vice versa. Though when we cover tight, that allows the 443 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: quarterback to hold the ball so they could get sacked. 444 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: So I mean we wear a hand in hand and 445 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: um DC he's a terrific player. He's going to be 446 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: very special. His get off is very good, almost elite. 447 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: And his motor, he has a high motor. He's always 448 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: running to the ball. Um he's a bother man. I 449 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: always love hearing insight from other players too. That's just unprompted, Like, yeah, 450 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: watch out for this guy. All right. He is DJ 451 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: read DJ man. It's been fun watching you and uh 452 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: and we know it's just a matter of time before 453 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: that record starts to catch up with the improved mince 454 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: you guys are making. So keep at it and have 455 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: fun out there Sunday. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks you, Jay. 456 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: All right, he's always such a pleasure to talk to you, 457 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: like the nicest guy. All Right, we are going to 458 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: jump to another player here, wide receiver Penny Hart going 459 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: to join us in just a few minutes. This is 460 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: the huddle. Don't go anywhere. This is the huddle with 461 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay keep Since Stacy Ross getting you guys 462 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: ready with a two hour preview show for the Seahawks 463 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: in Week eight. They are taking on the Jags at 464 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: home on Halloween. Speaking of Dave, I said that you 465 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: should dress up as Rabel Steve Rabes for Halloween. We 466 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: have a listener who said, Dave, will you please be 467 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: the Bos for Halloween? Oh? Yeah, good costume. I don't 468 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: think think about it. My son has a BOS T shirt. Yeah, 469 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: and I took a picture of him and send it 470 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: to BOS. Actually, but hey, have you seen by the way, 471 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Not to get off topic, Bobs and the Doctor Pepper 472 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: commercials Now, they're hilarious. He's really good. Yeah, and the 473 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: guy's made like thirty movie but none that are very good. 474 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: So not feeling the Boss Halloween costume. But is it 475 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: because you're scared? He plays? He plays that, He plays 476 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: that police officer very very he does. He does. It's 477 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: like he's kind of like Burt Reynolds a little bit 478 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: as kind of who he reminds me of, like his 479 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: sense of humor, and he was always funny. He was 480 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: always funny. But no, I will not dress up like 481 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: the Boss. I'd rather dress up like Rabel. What would 482 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I put on like a mister Roger sweater? And you know, 483 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: talk about being a tight end a lot. He's a 484 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver. It's a wide receiver. You guys know. Rabel 485 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: ran like a sub four four forty. He ran like 486 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: a four or three eight. No, he was a track 487 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: guy at and he was a wide receiver. But he 488 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: was a track guy. If only cameras existed, then you 489 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: know they would have been able to catch it. That's 490 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: a bummer. Course. That was hand time. They edged it 491 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: in stone and then they put it up on the 492 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: wall and little pillars tilted an hour glass and then 493 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: counted how many sand he went by the shadows, how 494 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: quickly he could do that. Seriously he was and he 495 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: was a track guy. So yeah, it's it's pretty amazing. 496 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: But you're gonna address up. I know you're on the 497 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: big screen. I see you on the big screen. I 498 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I gotta I gotta see something. I gotta 499 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: I gotta find a good costume. But we are joined 500 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: right now by wide receiver Penny Hart of the Seahawks. 501 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: Speaking of Penny, I know that you guys are playing 502 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: on Halloween. Do you have Halloween plans after the game. 503 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: Are you gonna dress up? Um? No, Halloween plans after 504 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: the game, probably, you know, just hanging out and handing 505 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: out some maybe some cash or some candy to the 506 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: kids who come or coming to your house. I gotta 507 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: I've got a five and a two year old, so 508 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and double dip Penny. You're gonna take 509 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: them on two separate trips. Sorry, I'll notice you. You won't. 510 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: You'll be able to resist me. You won't be able 511 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: to resist them. So that's the key. Yeah, oh yeah, 512 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: for sure, Penny. Tell us tell us how the week 513 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: has been disappointing. Loss obviously, but tell us, you know, 514 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: you guys get rid of that stuff pretty quick. Flush 515 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: it on Tuesday, I suppose, and then or maybe even Monday, 516 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: and then get onto Jacksonville. What's the what's the spirit 517 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: like there? On the offense? It's the same. You know, 518 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: we keep the same model going throughout the whole week 519 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: and throughout the year. I mean, you can't, you can't change. 520 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: I think it's all about being consistent and keeping the 521 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: same mindset. I think, you know, our coach hit it 522 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: on the head is just a matter of just executing 523 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, um, getting back to the basics of fundamentals 524 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: and doing what we got to do to win games. 525 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: And you know, um, the people who do it best, 526 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: they end up winning. And I don't think we've done 527 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: that to the best our ability. So it's just a 528 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: matter of you know, cleaning up the small things and 529 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: getting back to work, working on the fundamentals and you know, 530 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: making sure we can put it all together, Penny with 531 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: a new renewed emphasis of running the football. As you 532 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: as we all saw on Monday night, it does leave 533 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of room for opportunities and one on ones 534 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: if a defense is willing to commit a lot of 535 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: resources to the box for that run game. What is 536 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: the receiver mentality when you get in those situations like 537 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: that every single time is you know, when our one 538 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: on one matchups. I think our room is one of 539 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: the best rooms in the league, if not the best. 540 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: And you know, we hold ourselves to a high standard 541 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: that we get man whom coverage. You know, we gotta 542 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: do what we gotta do and take care of business 543 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: and make it easy on the rest of the team 544 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: and doing our part, so you know, making it easy 545 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: on Geno and getting open and you know what I'm 546 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: saying at the end of the day, getting down the 547 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: field and making those explosive plays. You know, So me, Freddie, 548 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: DK Tyler doing what we gotta do, winning our one 549 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: on ones and taking our opportunities when they come to us. Hey, 550 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: out of curiosity, Penny, what's just the mood around the 551 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: facility this week? I mean, this is kind of a 552 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: new environment for a lot of guys who have been 553 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: with this team and have normally, you know, not had 554 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: to struggle early in the season. So are you guys 555 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: keeping kind of the mood lifted? Is it quiet? Is 556 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: it excited? What's everyone feeling? It's always excited. I mean 557 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: we take on the identity of our leadership and you know, 558 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: guys like Russ still doing what he does, Gino, you know, 559 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: being out here, still taking care of his business and 560 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: being a guy that can lead us to do it 561 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: we have to do, Bobby, you know, just the leadership 562 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: that we have on this team, and that's been here 563 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: for so long and you know, knows how to win. 564 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: A coach Carol, everybody continue to keep high spirits. I mean, 565 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think if y'all were to walk in 566 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: here right now, y'all would see that nothing as far 567 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: as our attitude is changing, because nothing needs to change 568 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: on that end. Like I said earlier, we just have 569 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: to execute, you know, putting the plays where they need 570 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: to be. It's nothing as far as our attitude is 571 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: needing to change. It's just a matter of executing the 572 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: plays when we have our opportunities and doing what we 573 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: have to do to capitalize, you know, off of plays 574 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: that we have in the games. All right, Penny hurt 575 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: enough with the football. I want to know two things. 576 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: One is what was your favorite or most memorable Halloween 577 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: costume that you dressed up as when you were a kid. 578 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: And then your favorite Halloween candy. I remember I was 579 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: like three years old and dressed up as a pumpkin. 580 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: My mom dressed me and all my brothers and sisters 581 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: up as pumpkin. Yeah, painted our faces and everything. So 582 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: we it's five of us, So she dressed all of 583 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: us up as pumpkins, painted our faces. And my favorite candy. 584 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm a chocolate guy, so any type of chocolate I'm 585 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: with that. That's that's what I want to eat. How 586 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: about the worst candy, worst, hollow worst? I really think 587 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: putsy Rose and candy corn. That is not okay. First 588 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: of all, Penny, Penny, when the last time you had 589 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: candy corn? Because it's not that bad. It's not that bad. Okay. Well, 590 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: out of respect for you, it sounds like you like 591 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: candy corns, I'm just gonna leave that conversation there, Penny. 592 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Isn't it just sugared wax. You're just eating sugar wax. Man, 593 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it. Just it's just not 594 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: a fan. I'm not a fan of it at all. 595 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: I like how he was so respectful to you. Yeah, 596 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Appreciate that he is wide receiver, Penny Heart. Well, Penny, 597 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. It's been a blast. Obviously, 598 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: have fun this Sunday and uh and enjoy your Halloween. 599 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: I hope that you're able to relax and kick back 600 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: after the game, and uh, enjoy giving out the cash 601 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: when Jake and his kids try to stop by. We're 602 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: in dinosaur costumes. Okay, Penny, so just be on the lone, 603 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: open your door. Thanks, Penny. He is Seahawks wide receiver. 604 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: Penny Hart. All right, you're listening to the huddle with 605 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman. Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross. We're gonna take 606 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: a look at the status of this team. Check out 607 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: injury updates, competition, it's all coming up next with Seahawks 608 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: dot Com reporter John Boyle. This is the Huddle with 609 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross joining us right 610 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: now to talk about where the Seahawks team is is 611 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks dot Com reporter John Boyle, Hey John, how's it going? Hey? Stacy? 612 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: And how are you? I'm good. I'm excited for Halloween, 613 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite holidays, and I am hoping that 614 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are able to get a win on Sunday 615 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: so that it's even sweeter. Talk about who we have 616 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: coming back. I know Darryl Taylor could could be back here. 617 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Damian Lewis, what's the latest with those two? Yeah, I mean, 618 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said, both those guys are looking like they 619 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: should be back, and they both did practice fully yesterday, 620 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: which is obviously a really good sign for those guys. 621 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: So you know, early on, we guys see how everybody 622 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: gets through the week. But early, honest looking Mike, maybe 623 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: Brandon Shells early the only injury question mark. He did 624 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: not practice yesterday and he was dealing with that ankle, 625 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: so should be fairly healthy than obviously UF the guys 626 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: on IR and Mark He's playever, will be heading there, 627 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: but in terms of the rest of their roster should 628 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: be pretty healthy heading in this game. John Darrell Taylor, 629 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, we heard from Pete how specially was. First 630 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: of all, I don't I'm not surprised that they didn't 631 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: play him, just because I would have been kind of 632 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: weird going from hospital, you know, ambulance ride to oh 633 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: he's okay and play and they aired on the side 634 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: of caution. But as far as his talent, man, I 635 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: feel like he is the chance to be like Superstar. 636 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: He's really special and that's that's the way Pete was 637 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: talking about him during camp, you know, before we had 638 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: seen him. But boy, he sure has developed into one 639 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: of the better I think he's one of the top 640 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: two best defensive players right now. Yeah, I mean, he's 641 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: been their most productive pass rusher. And you're right, I 642 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: mean that this is the guy they were talking about 643 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: that they were hoping they were getting and they were 644 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: so excited about seeing him out there and then, you know, unfortunately, 645 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: just that leg injury took away a whole year from him, 646 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: but he has been as advertised so far, and it 647 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: seems like he's just kind of scratching the surface of 648 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: his potentials of pass rushers though. Yeah, I mean he 649 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: looks to me like a you know, double digit SAT 650 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: guy every year once he gets comfortable and starts playing 651 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: more snaps and everything, John, what is the most interesting 652 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: storyline to you heading in this game? I personally feel 653 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: like my storyline that I am so fascinated by is 654 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: watching this defense Pete Carroll's defense school up against two 655 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: former offensive coordinators of his in Daryl Bevil and Brian Schottenheimer. Yeah, 656 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean that's kind of what I was 657 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: leaning towards before you said. It's just all these connections 658 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: between the teams. And I was talking to my counterpart 659 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: over the Jaguars who writes for their website, and he, 660 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, he said that Urban Meyers brought up Peacroll 661 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: a lot since he's been there, just the respect he 662 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: has for this team here and the program PEAKL runs, 663 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: and that's you know, it's not a coincidence They've got 664 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: all these Seahawks guys on their coaching staff, so you know, yeah, 665 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: how does that work? With you know, obviously Daryl Bevil 666 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: and Shotty know the Seahawks defense there. You know, they 667 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: know what the players like to do, they know the 668 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: calls they like to make. So just sort of that 669 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: chess match is going to be fascinating. But I mean, 670 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, the biggest storyline internal and it 671 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: is just has this team respond to a lot of 672 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: adversity and hopefully start writing the ship here this week 673 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: because you're already in a pretty big hole. Now you 674 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: have that interview up the opposing view on seahawks dot 675 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Com with John previewing kind of what the Jags bring 676 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: as a team, the challenges, the opportunities. How do these 677 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: two teams match up kind of on paper? Is just 678 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: a basic basic overview. For instance, last week with the Saints, 679 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: it was all right, we know the Seahawks want to run. 680 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: It's the number two run defense, and we know that 681 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: James Winston isn't always accurate, right, So what are some 682 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: of those general overviews of how these two teams match 683 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: up on Sunday? Yeah, I mean the Jaguars like to 684 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: run too. I mean, again, you've got a lot of 685 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: that similar offense to what was here before, and you know, 686 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: I've got a really good running back because I think 687 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: he's averaging five and a half yards of carry. So, 688 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: but that offense has been getting more explosive lately. Trevor 689 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence to playing a lot better. I think he had 690 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: like seven picks in his first three games, and he 691 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: has one sense, so he's cleaning things up. Obviously, He's 692 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: capable of some pretty spectacular stuff when he gets going, 693 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: So you know it's going to be you know, kind 694 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: of a lot of similar to what we know the 695 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: seatts I like to do of run it set up 696 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: some big passing plays. But yeah, I mean I think 697 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: that and the turnovers are going to be a big 698 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: thing in this game. That they've turned the ball over 699 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: a ton this year and the Seahawks are one of 700 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: the best in the leagues. Is I think they have 701 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: a league low four turnovers. Hey, John, as far as 702 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: the corner battle goes, what were you here in this week? 703 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 1: Because it looked like, I mean, they're in a good spot, right, 704 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: You've got DJ Read playing really well and now you've 705 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: actually got like a competitive situation rather than who do 706 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: we put in their type of situation? Yeah, I mean, 707 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: for sure they're better they're all better at that position 708 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: than they have been earlier in the year, and regardless 709 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: of who starts, they feel pretty good about that group. 710 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: But you know, it was Sydney Jones and last week obviously, 711 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: but then it was Trey Brown down the stretch of 712 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the whole way. They kind of stopped that rotation. So 713 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a sign Trey Brown's gonna start. 714 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: I kind of thought he might last week read and 715 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: be hadn't winned to what Pete Carroll said, and then 716 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: Sydney Jones did, So maybe I don't have the best 717 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: read on it, but I think we might see both 718 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: those guys play again, and Pete teams don't want to 719 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: let those guys compete for it. But as you point out, 720 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I think either way, they're in a pretty good place 721 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: at that position compared to where they were maybe a 722 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: month ago. John. One of the things that drew criticism 723 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: a little bit from that Saints game is the fact 724 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: that the Seahawks. It's not that they tried to run 725 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 1: the football, it's the fact that they were running against 726 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: eight nine man boxes and personnel and really trying to 727 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: make it a slugfest type of game. Do you believe 728 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: that's the style ultimately that they want to go with 729 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: during this time where they have Geno Smith. Where is 730 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: it a you know, look back at that game plan 731 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, maybe it wasn't the right way or 732 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: the right approach to go about getting the run game 733 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: going for them. Yeah, you know here, Pete Carroll Park, 734 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: I think it was more they thought that was the 735 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: right game plan for that specific game, both in terms 736 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: of they knew that that's kind of how New Orleans 737 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: has been playing. They've been leaning on the run game heavy, 738 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: and they thought, you know, we could keep a low 739 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: scoring game. And I think the conditions played a lot 740 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: on that too. I just don't think in that weather 741 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: they wanted to put too much on Gino. So I'd 742 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: be surprised if they're quite that conservative with the game 743 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: plan this week, particularly if the running game is not there. 744 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can run it like they did 745 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: in the second half against Pittsburgh, then yeah, I keep 746 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: running because that worked really well. But I think they 747 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: were a little more willing to play a low scoring 748 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: game and punt when they needed to and hope, you know, 749 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: hope they would win a close game than they would 750 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: have hit, the weather been a little better. Jamal Adams was, 751 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: unsurprisingly one of the biggest names talked about, not just 752 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: heading into this game, but into the season. What do 753 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: you make of his week against the Saints. I thought 754 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: he played pretty well. I mean, there seemed to be 755 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: more of just kind of players that jumped out of 756 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: you than maybe we've seen in past the games. You 757 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: had the nice pass break up on that deep ball 758 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: where Sidney Jones was beaten Adams clothes and you know, 759 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: made the hit on that. And he, you know, had 760 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: some plays aroundline scrimmage, some good players and run defense. 761 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: So you know, I look, I get that the numbers 762 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: aren't there of what he or anyone else would want. 763 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he had nine a half sacks last year. 764 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: You pay him all some money, You're expecting a lot 765 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: of production, and it hasn't been there so far. But 766 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: I do think they, you know, the way we've seen 767 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: them using him more aroundline scrimmage the last two games 768 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: is going to kind of start getting him more involved. 769 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm noticing him more of these 770 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: last couple of games. Hey, John, last two national broadcasts 771 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: some pretty uh. I don't know what you would call 772 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: them irritating type of little promo things that they did. 773 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: There was the Legion of Boo that they did kind 774 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: of in between commercials, and then there's the one last 775 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: week where all of a sudden, pets, you know, the 776 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: cartoon Pete Carrol's getting hit in the fish with fish 777 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, I was like, and I remember 778 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: looking up at NASA and we're both shaking our heads, like, 779 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: jeez's who's putting this together? Has that been brought up 780 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: or is that anybody mentioned that they were irritated by 781 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: those I have not heard anything about it. You know, 782 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: maybe in the maybe in the meeting rooms are showing 783 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: it and having fun with it. I don't know, but yeah, 784 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: I guess you know, snark is his popular these days, 785 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: and when the team's losing, it's easy to kick them 786 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: when they're down a little bit and have fun with it. 787 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: So I don't think that's really gonna bother anybody too much. 788 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've knowned those two. I guess it bothered me, 789 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: So you know, I figured that bother other people, but 790 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm easily bothered. So he is. Seahawks dot Com reporter 791 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: John Boyle. John, obviously, I hope you have a good weekend. 792 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy your Halloween after this one. Hope hopefully 793 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: you're able to take the girls out, get out there 794 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: and go trick or treating and enjoy the rest of 795 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: your weekend. It was good talking to you. You two say, yeah, John, 796 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: all right, we are going in the trenches with Ray Roberts. 797 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: It's coming your way next on the Huddle. You are 798 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and 799 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We're about to go in the trenches with 800 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: Ray Roberts and talk about how this team can improve 801 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: in the trenches what they've been doing. Well, it's kind 802 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: of where it all starts, right, So why not bring 803 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: on an expert for that? And he joins us. Now 804 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: it's Ray Roberts, former lineman himself and also hosted the 805 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: Seahawks pre and postgame show. Hey Ray, how's it going. 806 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: It's going all right? How are you doing today? But good? Good? 807 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we were talking about kind of what we 808 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: want to pack up and take from this Saints game 809 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: that we liked and what we want to kind of 810 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: leave behind, right Like we're going to a new place 811 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring some stuff and then we're gonna 812 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: leave the rest of it in the trash. So one 813 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: of the things that I personally loved was the defense 814 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: holding them to one of four in the red zone. 815 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: Uh they're the best red zone team, red zone offense 816 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: in the league. One of the things I did not 817 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: like was obviously some of the sacks that were given 818 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: up or that Geno Smith took. So from your point 819 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: of view, what happened up front with some of those, 820 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: because they finished with five, Yeah, Well, honestly, I think 821 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: one or two of them were tight end sacks where 822 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: where the tight end was responsible, uh for for block 823 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: and so you can blame the scheme if you want, 824 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: but you know, having um, you know our tight ends 825 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: try to block one of their, you know, one of 826 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: the best pass rushers in the league, it is probably 827 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: not a good thing to do. Um. And so I 828 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: think that happened once or twice. And then there was 829 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: another sack where um there Saints. It was a very 830 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: good scheme. They had um their linebacker lined up over 831 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: the left guard. He faked like he was pass rushing 832 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: to our left, and then looped all the way back 833 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: around around the right tackle and ended up getting the sack. 834 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: And that's a really hard game to to switch off 835 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: all the way down the line, and it takes a 836 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: long time. So that also means that there was time 837 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: to get the ball off. So so not every sack 838 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 1: was a result of offensive line bad offensive line play. 839 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: Uh there was another sack where uh ginous when where 840 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: backed up an end zone and he could have escaped 841 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: or moved to his left and and found space to 842 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: either run or get the ball off, but he actually 843 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: went back to where the pressure was coming from and 844 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: got sacked. So there's a there's a there's more to 845 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: the story than the offensive line possibly not playing as 846 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: well in pass detection. And then just speaking in terms 847 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: of that in general, Uh you know, I know that 848 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: there's the switch between or this more competition at the 849 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: center position with postigum possibly getting more planned time. And 850 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: uh you know, I went back and I watched every 851 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: single running play, every single play. I watched every single 852 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: person on every single play. And I'm not just talking 853 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: about every offensive lineman. I watched quarterback, the running backs, 854 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: the receivers, and the tight ends. And if you go 855 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: back and look at that film, there are several plays where, um, 856 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the offensive line had gotten had pushing 857 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: their double team on the defensive tackle or whatever, two 858 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: or three yards off the ball, working themselves up to 859 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: the second level, and either the backside the tight end 860 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: didn't get to cut off, and the and the backside 861 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: end taste down the player made the tackle, the running 862 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: back kind of hesitated and didn't hit the hole. Um, 863 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: there's there's this this um play design where I've seen 864 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: it now for two or three weeks, where we leave 865 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: the backside end unblocked. So if we're running to the right, 866 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: they leave the backside defensive end unblocked, and it's dude 867 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: has chased the play down every single time. So so 868 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: that's not like an offensive line thing or a or 869 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: a or a fuller thing or whatever. But so there's 870 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: a there was a lot of yards that were left 871 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: on the on the fields in the running game, not 872 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: based on the offensive line not being able to block them, 873 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: but based on not everybody on the field being completely 874 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: committed to the running game. So you can't have defensive 875 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: ends avoiding backside cutoffs. You can't have I mean, you 876 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: can't have line tight ends avoiding backside cutoffs. You can't 877 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: have a double team by the tight ends on the 878 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: front side and they get defeated by a defensive end 879 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: and he disrupts the play. So there's a there's more 880 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: to it than than the offensive line, you know, performing 881 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: or not performing. Now, is there problems along the offensive line? Absolutely? 882 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: Is there. To me, there's a lot of communication issues 883 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: going on. There seems like everyone's late off the ball. 884 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it seems like the double teams and things aren't 885 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: syncd up and all that. But to try to put 886 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: all this on one player and his ability or lack 887 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: of ability, I think is probably wrong. He's probably a 888 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: low man on the totem pole, so he's going to 889 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: get most of the blame. But if the if the 890 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: guards are planned better, which they neither one of them 891 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: have really played up to their capabilities, then that can 892 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: overcome some of the deficiencies that you have a center, 893 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: no matter who you have in there. But those the 894 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: guards have to up their game and uh and then 895 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 1: the rest off of the line has to continue to 896 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: up their game. Hey, Ray, So it looks like they're 897 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: gonna get Damian Lewis back. I want to say he 898 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: had a rough game against maybe the Niners, but I 899 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: am you're going back and watching all that stuff, and 900 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: that's I mean, you always find more than I mean everybody. 901 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: Just offensive line is one of those. It's like bullpen 902 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: in baseball. Yeah the bullpen was terrible, you know, but yeah, 903 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: it does take a lot of blame. But but as 904 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: far as Damien Lewis goes, what do you make of 905 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: his year? You know the thing I think I see 906 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: in Damon and this is sometimes hard to understand when 907 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: you have dudes that have a lot of upper body 908 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: sprint as they try to block with their upper body. 909 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: And so you get into a guy and you lock 910 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: out and he start twisting and turning with your upper 911 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: body to see who can throw the you know, the 912 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: which which guy's going to get the other guy to 913 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: the ground. Uh, and so, but they don't understand that 914 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: you block with your lower body and you finished with 915 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: your upper body. And so what I see is a 916 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: lot of like getting into a defender and then not 917 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: keeping his feet moving. He just kind of, you know, 918 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: puts his feet in the ground and starts twisting and turning. 919 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: In the run game. And then I've seen some of 920 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 1: that in the past. Game two, which was a carryover 921 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: from last year because there were times where he would 922 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 1: punch and then stop his feet and the defender keeps 923 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: moving and then he loses the leverage and then you 924 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback. And so those are those 925 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: are some things I've seen with him and also with 926 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: Gabe in the running game, they just they tend to 927 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: get locked their arms extended and locked out too early 928 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: in the block versus driving with your lower body and 929 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: then finishing with your upper body. And so if you 930 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: get a lot of spellmates like that at the line 931 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, is hard to work up to the second level. 932 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: Those uh and then those those linebackers from the Saints. 933 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: Man they were really attacking downhill, the double teams, and 934 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: they were doing across. They were doing a cross dog stunts. 935 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: So if I'm on the right side and I'm the 936 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: guard and tackle I'm working to the linebacker is over 937 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: the guard, all of a sudden, when the place started, 938 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,959 Speaker 1: he would fly backside and then the backside guard would 939 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: fly to the front side, and that just goes off everything. 940 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: It was a pretty good little stunt that they were 941 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: doing that was causing a little bit confusing because the 942 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: dude that you're going to all of a sudden disappeared 943 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: and then and then then the other guy flashes in 944 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: the hole, so they some of it was schemed up 945 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: like that. That was really good on the Saints part. 946 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: But I think that Damian Lewis just has to get 947 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: used to like like really using his keeping his feet 948 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 1: and his legs active in the driving portion of the run, 949 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: blocking and then in the movement portion of the pass. 950 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: Bocket Ray Pete Carroll had talked about there being competition 951 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: at the center position. Ethan Posic seems set and ready 952 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: to go to get some more time out on the 953 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: field with everything going on. Do you agree with that 954 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: type of move Is it appropriate right now? Does it 955 00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: create more confusion? How? What do you make of that decision? Well, 956 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: the thing that I've seen in that decision, Jake, is 957 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: that I think, uh Ethan post has been a very 958 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: good communicator when he's at center, Like he kind of 959 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: gets people, you know, where they need to go, how 960 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: they need you know, what the linebackers are going to, 961 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 1: what slide they're doing, what shifts they're doing, and uh, 962 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's a piece that might be 963 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: missing in the middle, you know, looking at how late 964 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: some of the guys are off the off the ball 965 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: at the center snaps at home, tells me that like 966 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: everybody is not quite getting set before the ball is snapping, 967 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: So there's some kind of communication that's going on. It's 968 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: not right. There's there's a couple of times like a 969 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: safety came flying off the edge and there was no 970 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: adjustment to the past protection to slide or to be 971 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: alert to that that guy coming, and one of them 972 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: resulted in a sack. Another time, I think the quarterback 973 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: got hit. So that those are like communication issues, and 974 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: I think that Postic brings that element to it. He 975 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: may not be uh, you know, as big or as 976 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: strong as as Fuller, but he brings that element to it, 977 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: and sometimes you need that is just as important. It's 978 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: been the big physical guys that you've got to be 979 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: hitting the right people at the right times, because you 980 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: can go hit the wrong people and it looks great, 981 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: but you're blocking the wrong people. He is Ray Roberts. 982 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: You guys can hear him this Sunday on the Seahawks 983 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: pre and postgame show. Make sure you tune in for 984 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: that broadcast and obviously every Thursday on the huddle when 985 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: he joins us for in the trenches thanks so much. Ray, Hey, 986 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: thanks for having me, guys. Thank you. All right, we're 987 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: going to be joined by the Voice of the Seahawks himself, 988 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: Steve Rabel. That's next on the huddle. This is the 989 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross getting 990 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: you guys ready for the Seahawks Week eight contest. This 991 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 1: one a Sunday home game, Halloween Day against the Jags 992 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: and means a lot to you. I can see I 993 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: have mentioned it every single time. Now, well, joining us now, 994 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 1: we'll see if it matters to him. Is the Voice 995 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, Raves, do you like Halloween? 996 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna come dressed as a fairy princess. Oh 997 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: that's beautiful, but that's what I wou come. I tormally 998 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: dress that way, so there's no reason for me to 999 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: do that exactly. Don't just don't change anymore. I like 1000 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: that idea because we were telling we were telling Dave 1001 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: that he should dress like you. So that's even better. Dave, 1002 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: you want to tell Rabel what you said? Well, I 1003 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: don't want to dress like a loser. Is that what 1004 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: you said, Dave? No, I said, how do I age 1005 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: myself thirty years between now and Sunday. Well, all right, 1006 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: i'll buy that. I'll buy that one too. Yeah. Yeah, 1007 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: you need to bring your costume needs to include support 1008 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: hose and and via inserts into your shoes to help 1009 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: your flat feet. Oh god, alright, that's enough. Getting this 1010 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: one back on the tracks. Here, Raves. Looking at this 1011 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: game against the Jags, it's obviously a must win for Seattle. 1012 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: They need to get back in the wind column before 1013 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: they head into this bye week. So when you look 1014 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: at one thing, one area where they have to improve 1015 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: this week, where's the first place you look? Yeah, you know, Stacy. 1016 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: It's it's interesting too, because who would have thought that 1017 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: we'd be talking about the Seahawks needing must win. I mean, 1018 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: here comes the Jaguars and they've won one game in 1019 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: their last twenty one, and so you still sort of 1020 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: think that that's where the focus is on who needs 1021 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: to win. But when you've only won two out of 1022 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: seven this season, you need to get things on track. 1023 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 1: And you know, again, the defense, now the last couple 1024 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: of weeks I think has played well enough to win. 1025 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: Certainly last week against the Saints, they've they've seemingly turned 1026 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: things around now. Maybe not all that you need to, 1027 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: because the Saints aren't exactly a juggernaut offensively, but Seattle 1028 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: was where they were supposed to be. They did their 1029 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: job on third downs for the most part, and most 1030 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: most importantly that the only number that really counts at 1031 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: the end of everything is how many points do you 1032 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: give up? And they gave up thirteen, And if your 1033 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 1: defense holds anybody to thirteen, you need to win that game. 1034 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm saying then is flip it over. 1035 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: The offense has to be better. You've got to be 1036 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: able to run the ball. And I know there's lots 1037 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: to talk about, Well, you're you're running into these good 1038 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: defenses who are real good against the run. Why keep 1039 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: in your head against the wall. Because it makes it 1040 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: easier to throw the ball, That's why. And it'll make 1041 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: Gino more successful, give him more opportunities to throw if 1042 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: you can successfully run the ball. Uh. Dave and I 1043 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: talked about it this morning. It was one of our 1044 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: keys on the show we do, the TV show we 1045 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: do every week, and that is it's you gotta get 1046 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: back to some smash mouth. You've got to start hitting 1047 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: people and knocking them off the line of scrimmage, and 1048 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing quite enough of that. And I think 1049 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: Dave would probably agree. Yeah, Well on the defensive side too, 1050 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 1: we haven't seen you know, guys attacking blockers and and 1051 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 1: and really, you know, I'm not trying to be a caveman. 1052 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: We had Mark Schlarathon and he was talking about, Hey, 1053 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: looks at its core, this is a collision sport. And 1054 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: you know, if you can't do you know, and get 1055 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: on the same page, or you don't have a you know, 1056 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: tremendous finase. So if you're a guy like let's say 1057 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, I mean maybe it doesn't have the greatest 1058 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: hands whatever, you can always be physical, right, I mean, 1059 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: that's all is something that's like it's it's like when 1060 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: we go to break on time, Like it's a very 1061 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: mechanical thing for a radio show. It doesn't have anything 1062 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: to do with talent or anything. It's just being mindful. 1063 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's what being physical is about. 1064 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: That you know, at the very least you can do 1065 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 1: that you can go out and hit people. Do you 1066 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: feel that way? Yeah? I do. And And it's funny 1067 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: because they just had the conversation for the show this 1068 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: week with Ryan Neal, the young safety. What a great kid. 1069 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: I know you told me that, not only a terrific kid, 1070 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: but you know he's a He's not the greatest athlete. 1071 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: And he will say. He sat there in front of 1072 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: me and said this. He said, I'm not the biggest, 1073 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: I'm not the fastest, but he said, I just want 1074 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: to do it so badly. I'm so grateful just to 1075 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: have this opportunity that I will do anything they ask 1076 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: me to do so that I can continue to play football. 1077 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: With fifty three guys like that, you can win a 1078 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: lot of football games. Yeah, they don't all have to 1079 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 1: be you know, the first player chosen, Trevor Lawrence, But 1080 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: if you have a lot of Ryan Nels on your team, 1081 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: you can win raves. How special was halftime for you? 1082 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know you were hustling down after, you know, 1083 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: calling the game to get down there. I thought to myself, 1084 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: my goodness, how fast was rage running going way back 1085 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: in the day and tapping into that speed. But you 1086 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,439 Speaker 1: were down there, you were you were not short of breath. 1087 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: You introduced Matthew Hasselbeck, who I know is special in 1088 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: your heart, and then to listen to him give that speech. 1089 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: I mean, Raves. I was half just fired up, ready 1090 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: to put some pads on again, and then I was 1091 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: also like half teary eyed. How was it for you? Well, 1092 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's funny, um, because I got a 1093 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: I got a note from Matt text from Matt yesterday saying, hey, 1094 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: thank you for doing that at all, and what a 1095 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: great deal. It was happy to be back. And I'm sorry, 1096 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: but I was standing he this is Matthew talking. I 1097 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: was standing right behind you, and he said I could 1098 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: not understand. I couldn't hear what you were saying. And 1099 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: He's right. For some reason, right where we were, you 1100 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: could barely hear what was being said. The echo around 1101 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: the stadium was really tough. Consequently, all I heard Matthew 1102 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: do was scream. I mean, I just turned him out. 1103 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: I didn't understand any of the words he said, but 1104 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: I knew he was fired up about something, so we 1105 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: were gonna we were just gonna let him go. But 1106 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: I was I am really and I mean this, and 1107 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: I think Dave you know this too. I am serious 1108 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: when I say that I'm grateful that the Seahawks allow 1109 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: me to do that because it is such an honor 1110 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: to be a part of welcoming into this franchise and 1111 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: the franchise history, these great players. And I watched Matthew 1112 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: from the time he was a puppy until he left us, 1113 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: and you know, here's a guy that took this team 1114 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: to a championship and who grew every single every single 1115 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: year that he played here, certainly under Mike, and then 1116 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 1: after he moved on as well. I was just so 1117 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: happy for him. I watched those kids from the time 1118 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 1: he was carrying Henry on his shoulders after the championship 1119 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: game to now when these are these are a grown 1120 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: adults and their terrific athletes in their own right. Really, 1121 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: it really has been fascinating to see kind of I 1122 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: know that it started before Hastleback and that crew was here, 1123 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,800 Speaker 1: but to see how they kind of were this great 1124 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: bridge and built a lot of the foundation for what 1125 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 1: we see from fans now. I mean, we were talking 1126 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: to him in the event center and he was talking 1127 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: about how the event center used to just be where 1128 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: like his kids and player kids and families would kind 1129 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: of wait before and after the game, right, and now 1130 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: it's like full of fans and there's an entire fan 1131 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: culture that has grown and flourished there. And that's in 1132 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: no small part because of him and a lot of 1133 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: those guys, right, and in no small part to the 1134 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: guy who's going to go in this week, right, who 1135 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: helped build that that winning tradition. There. You know, we 1136 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: there there, there was the Chuck Knox years and even 1137 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, we'll take a little credit in that the 1138 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: first generation of Seahawks because leading into Chuck, Jack are 1139 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: leading into Chuck. Yeah, a lot of Jack's players won 1140 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot of football games with Chuck after that. But 1141 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: Mike goes in this week. It's it's just a treat 1142 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,040 Speaker 1: to be a part of it. And and I I 1143 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: love the history of the team and having been with 1144 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: it since day one, I look forward to when this 1145 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: generation of guys goes in because there's going to be 1146 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of them. Well, Matt is so you know, 1147 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: talking about Matt Hasselbeck still, I know you call him 1148 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: Matthew because he means so much to you. He just 1149 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: he was such a great He had he had an 1150 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: explanation during the week. He's so articulate, like he knows 1151 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: how to put things, and he was talking about Geno 1152 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: Smith and all the different things that he had to 1153 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 1: do as far as the run game. And I'm not 1154 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: sure if you heard it raised, but he was saying, yeah, 1155 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: and that's pretty amazing. And so you think about Geno 1156 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: Smith and all the stuff that he has to go through, 1157 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 1: and so he basically said he spent as much time 1158 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: during the week on the run game preparing for that 1159 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 1: and making sure that they check and get to the 1160 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: right spot and you're not running into, you know, a 1161 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: gap with two guys in it or anything like that. 1162 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: And it just makes you understand how difficult it is 1163 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: not only to play quarterback, but to come in as 1164 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: a backup right. And you know when I hear him 1165 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: talking with Mike Sulk in the mornings, and you can 1166 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: tell Matthew does his homework still. I mean, he knows 1167 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: specific situations and he can he's watching specific players on teams, 1168 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: so he's ready for these questions about the Seahawks and 1169 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: then you know, perhaps everybody else that he's talking about, 1170 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 1: certainly on Sunday morning in that pregame show, those guys 1171 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: have to be on top of all that. It's funny though, 1172 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: when you talk about matt and I said this in 1173 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: my introduction and you know, I put a little of 1174 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: my own in there, but the Seahawks put that together too. 1175 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: But the part about a coach once said about Matthew, 1176 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 1: when you ask him what time it is, he'll tell 1177 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: you how to make the watch. And that kind of 1178 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: is matt. I mean, he's got so much knowledge, he's 1179 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: so smart, and he wants to get down to the 1180 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: nitty gritty of explaining things. I think that's one of 1181 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: the reasons it made him such a great quarterback, because 1182 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: there was no stone left unturned. And it's working for 1183 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: him as a broadcaster too. I'm just really proud of him. 1184 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him because his mother still calls him Matthew. 1185 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: That's why I called him Matthew. He is the voice 1186 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks. Steve Rabel Raves obviously, have a good weekend, 1187 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: enjoy the game, and we look forward to seeing you 1188 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: induct Matt Holme or holmegrin Mike Holmegren talking about matt 1189 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: too much here, Mike Holmgren into the Seahawks Ring of 1190 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: Honor this weekend. Looking forward to that halftime show. As 1191 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 1: long as the little cart is there to drive me, 1192 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: I'll make it just fun. Don't want that Raves is 1193 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna get back. I want to be kicked off the 1194 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: air for good. Thanks Raves, Thanks having a good one. 1195 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: All right, we are going to take a look at 1196 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: the opponent for this week. The last time Seattle hosted 1197 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 1: the Jags in Seattle, they absolutely demolished Jacksonville. Can they 1198 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: get the same done this weekend? That's next. This is 1199 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross 1200 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: before we get to our final thoughts on this game 1201 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: coming up at forty five after, let's go ahead and 1202 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: take one closer look at the Jags with our opponent preview. 1203 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: And what makes this game so interesting Dave and Jake 1204 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 1: is that we've got so many former Seahawks here, not 1205 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: just players but coaches. So let's take a listen to 1206 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 1: some of what they had to say this week. First, 1207 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: they're Shaquille Griffin, Seahawks former third round pick, obviously a 1208 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: long time starter for them, is now with the Jags, 1209 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: signed with them in free agency. This was what Shaquille 1210 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: said on going up against DKA for the first time. 1211 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: I know DK as a person, you know me as 1212 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: a person. It's just it's gonna be a hard fought 1213 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: bottom as it. We just compete here, you know, and 1214 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: as one thing being the same system for a very 1215 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: long time. I've seen DK come in as a riffute 1216 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: to where he is now and everything was, We're gonna 1217 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 1: make it tough, make it tough. It's literally just about 1218 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: one player at the time, and person who gets frustrated first, 1219 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: or person who gives in first and once he usually lose. 1220 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: But knowing who he is, knowing who I am, it's 1221 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: just gonna be a hard fought bottom. You know, every corner, 1222 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: everybody's out there. You just got to compete no matter 1223 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: who's out there. We know Seattle and Jackson Villa Bill 1224 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: struggle defensively. Seattle is thirty first in total defense. This 1225 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: is just yards allowed. The Jags are thirtieth. They're seventeenth 1226 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: against the run and thirty first against the pass. Shaquille 1227 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: sounded pretty serious. I was gonna say, do you guys 1228 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: think it makes a huge difference? In Jake, I know 1229 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: you want to get to the coordinators and we'll get 1230 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: to them, but do you think it makes a huge 1231 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: difference the guys with the Jags knowing the Seattle team, 1232 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: it does? I mean, at least for Shaquille Griffin and 1233 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: that standpoint, and I don't know how DK is going 1234 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: to be. I mean, I think it doesn't matter whether 1235 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: you're a teammate or not, he's still gonna go after you. 1236 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I believe there's very much mutual respect 1237 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: there and Shaquille knows how Dka is wired and how 1238 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: he approaches the game, and he's ready to match that intensity. 1239 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: Now I don't think that he is going to and 1240 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: we all know Shaquille personality wise, he's not going to 1241 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: try and get into fights and things like that that 1242 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: I think DK it gets other people debate into. But 1243 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you this, and it's going to be 1244 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: frustrating to hear this, but this is the best football 1245 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: I've seen Shaquille Griffin play in his career. Those numbers 1246 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: that you rattled off Stacey in terms of past defense, Dave. 1247 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if if you watch the film and 1248 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: had these same takeaways, but I'm watching the film and 1249 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: watching Shaquille Griffin, and this guy is playing confident, he's 1250 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: playing press man, he is driving on the football. I mean, 1251 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: this is the best play I've ever seen from Shaquille Griffin. 1252 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: And I'm just looking at this and I just get angry. 1253 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: But he's pulling the trigger. He's trusting himself, and I'm 1254 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: really excited to see what that battle looks like. Yeah. Well, 1255 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 1: the value of that is when you go somewhere new. 1256 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: My best year was my first year in Denver because 1257 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: none of the baggage or whatever it is that you 1258 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: can't do follows you. You know, all it's like a 1259 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: fresh start and then you know that gives you confidence, 1260 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 1: and that's something that I think's really interesting. The other 1261 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: thing is is that I always held my opponents in 1262 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: very high regard, so you know, and if you don't 1263 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 1: know them, then they can be kind of almost like 1264 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: awesome to you, right or you could be awestruck, you know, 1265 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: looking at them and everything. But if you know them, 1266 01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, even if they're really good, Like when I 1267 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: played the Seahawks, there was just a it wasn't contempt 1268 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 1: or anything like that, it was just there was a 1269 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: familiarity there that you know, I knew what they were 1270 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: about and who they were. And so that does help you, 1271 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I think, because it takes away that awe part of it, 1272 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, and now a sudden you go because if 1273 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: you don't know, DK Metcalf and you haven't been around 1274 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: him and everything. You're looking at this dude and looking 1275 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: at his highlights and seeing what he's doing and everything, 1276 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: but you don't know anything about his personality or what 1277 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: kind of guys you know, you could get kind of 1278 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to say awe struck, but like it's 1279 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: just something that I don't know makes him familiar. They 1280 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: always say familiarity breeds contempt. Yeah, you know, so it's 1281 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: probably not that far, but I do think that there 1282 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 1: is something to that. And he sounds like a different 1283 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 1: guy there. I mean, you know, he's always a sweetheart 1284 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: of a guy. I always loved him. He's one of 1285 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: my favorite interviews. But it sounded like he was it's 1286 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: going to be a big challenge for him. He's ready 1287 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: for it. Speaking of kind of a familiarity and an 1288 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: admiration for your opponent. Urban Meyer, obviously head coach of 1289 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: the Jacks, said it was no accident that he hired 1290 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Schottenheimer and Bevil from Carol Seahawks. Yeah, I made a 1291 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: comment then I'm not you know, I'm not shy to 1292 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: say this, and I studied coach Carol for many, many 1293 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: many years starting back on my Utah days when they were, 1294 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, the top of the college football world, when 1295 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I was a Reggie Bush and Matt Leonard and the Fox. 1296 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: I just would ask because I'm I've always studied great coaches. Man. 1297 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: He's a guy that competition was the number one piece 1298 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 1: of his, you know, his organization, and it became ours too. 1299 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's always been. But so it's not by 1300 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: accent that I've hired guys that were part of that organization. 1301 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: Those guys are Brian Schottenheimer, obviously Seattle's former offensive coordinator 1302 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 1: who's now the passing game co coordinator and quarterbacks coach 1303 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: for the Jags. And then they've got Daryl Bevil there 1304 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: as their OC. Yeah. And then Nick Sorenson is which 1305 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I missed that guy. He is really a really good guy, 1306 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: played for a long time in the league. But he's 1307 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: the special team guy. Is Wilsonson a wide receiver? Yeah, 1308 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: san Jay law Is he is the receiver coach for 1309 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: the Jags, which is one I know that DK in 1310 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: particular was really sad to see go. They had a 1311 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: really special relationship and grew a lot together in DK's 1312 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,840 Speaker 1: rookie year and second year in the league. Um, so yeah, 1313 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean there's a ton of former guys. You go 1314 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to former players. I mean there is a lot of it. 1315 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if Pete Carroll shares the 1316 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: same level of mutual respect necessarily with Urban uh on 1317 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: a on a personal level. But I think if you're 1318 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: going to try to imitate anybody, if you're Urban Meyer, 1319 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll laid out a blueprint for you how to 1320 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: transition into the NFL and what principles and what things 1321 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: you should you know, strive to target that resonate, the 1322 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: messaging that resonates at the NFL level. And you know, 1323 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Urban is kind of swing and missed in some aspects. 1324 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: But hiring guys that are good veterans, good leaders like 1325 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Daryl Bevil and Brian Schottenheimer, those are two guys that 1326 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: you want, you know, leading the charge and leading your 1327 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 1: message of a very young offense and a very young team. 1328 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I love both of those guys. I know both of 1329 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: those guys and have been around them and everything, and 1330 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: I think they're just tremendous football coaches. So for Trevor Lawrence, 1331 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: I think he's got two really guys to two really 1332 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: good good coordinators and good minds that are helping him 1333 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: along the way transition from college into the NFL. What 1334 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 1: kind of challenge might it give the Seahawks this week 1335 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: that there is that familiarity? UM, I don't know. To me, 1336 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: it was always it was always more of a benefit 1337 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,600 Speaker 1: or an opportunity that maybe is a better way to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1338 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 1: maybe maybe there is that Um. You know. One of 1339 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: the things I would say though, that where they start 1340 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: and this is a good you know, I've been kind 1341 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: of harping on this. They're physical, they're linebackers step up 1342 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: and like you can hear the sound of them taking 1343 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 1: on blockers, and you know, you look at their running backs, 1344 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: they want to try to run you over. You know. 1345 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top of the show that Jamal 1346 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Agnew there's a play in London where he just puts 1347 01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: his head down, just tries to barrel over a d 1348 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: defensive back and he does. So you look at James Robinson, 1349 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: very physical. This is you know, this is a team 1350 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: that you know, I think you start looking around going yeah. 1351 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: And Dan Arnold, you know, he's burned us a couple 1352 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: of times when he was with Arizona Cardinals. He's the 1353 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: tight end there, and then you know you got Jacob Pollister. 1354 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean again, you look at these guys and you 1355 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: every week you go, Okay, that guy's a baller, that 1356 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: guy's a ball or that guy can play, that guy 1357 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 1: can play. I mean then you know they're just not 1358 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: playing together as a team. Yeah. But you know, you 1359 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: can have the greatest collection of athletes and if they're 1360 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: not playing together in football. Now it may be in basketball, 1361 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,919 Speaker 1: you can baseball, but not in football. If you don't 1362 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,960 Speaker 1: have guys playing together, there's just no chance. I'd rather 1363 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: have a bunch of third stringers. Well, and how often 1364 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,959 Speaker 1: did you see that with Cleveland? How many early first 1365 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: round picks did Cleveland have when they were at their 1366 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,479 Speaker 1: worst and they still couldn't win despite having a ton 1367 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: of first rounders. Yeah, it's it's one of the things 1368 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 1: that you mentioned, all those things, Dave and the talent 1369 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and stacy you bring up Cleveland. The difference to me 1370 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: in this game is it's going to come down to 1371 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 1: execution because the talent pool. I mean, I would say 1372 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that you've got more stars with the Seattle Seahawks, but 1373 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 1: collectively as a roster, the Jags, they've got good things 1374 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: going on for them. The Seahawks are two and five, 1375 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the Jags are one in five. There's different reasons for that. 1376 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence making mistakes early on in the season is 1377 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a big part of that, but also when it comes 1378 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: down to it, there's a lot of ifs. If we 1379 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 1: just would have played this coverage right, if we would 1380 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: have played together, if we would have done this, and 1381 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: that's why you see both of these teams in these 1382 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: situations right now, and it's really going to come down 1383 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: to execution. All right, guys, think about your final thoughts 1384 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: or keys of the game. We're gonna wrap things up 1385 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: next on the huddle. This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, 1386 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,200 Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross. All Right, we spent the 1387 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: last two hours getting you guys ready for the Seahawks 1388 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: Week eight game against the Jags on Sunday. Seahawks with 1389 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: a chance to get back in the win column. With 1390 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: a win, they'd be three and five heading into the 1391 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: bye week, so a bit of a break before taking 1392 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 1: on Green Bay in Arizona coming out of that. So 1393 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: it's a tough stretch afterward. You need the win and 1394 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: you need this break. So what's a key to get 1395 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: it done. Dave, I'll start with you, but let's go 1396 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 1: over some of our big keys, our final thoughts for 1397 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 1: this one. What do I always say, be physical, physical, physical. 1398 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Now that's uh, that's something that they need to get 1399 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,919 Speaker 1: back to. I'm really glad and excited to see Daryl 1400 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: Taylor out there. Yeah, they're two best players on defense 1401 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: right now, Quandre Diggs Darryl Taylor. So you know, and 1402 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: we talked about this last week, that Legion of Boo 1403 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: graphic that we saw and kind of talk to John 1404 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Boyle about. I mean, they see that, and you know, 1405 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: at the time, Jamal was, you know, he was not 1406 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 1: playing great and everything, and you know, Bobby is Bobby. 1407 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna make tackles. But you know, for me, 1408 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: if I'm Quandre Diggs, I'm like, why'd they put me 1409 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: on that graphic? Right? You know? What did I do? Yeah? 1410 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: And then yeah, and then Pete you know that the 1411 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,760 Speaker 1: one with him. I mean, I feel like they're they're 1412 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: taking body blows right now, you know, they're they're really 1413 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I think people are kind of like disrespecting him, 1414 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, and so I feel like, when are they 1415 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna snap? And then all of a sudden become that 1416 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: team that, hey, you know, we've had it and we're 1417 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: going to turn around like they did last year on defense. 1418 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: You'd love to see that happen. I mean, you know, 1419 01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 1: if you guys missed the interview with DJ Reid on 1420 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 1: with us earlier, you can always go back and listen 1421 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,600 Speaker 1: to it wherever you get. Your podcast will be the 1422 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: huddle under Jake and Stacey. DJ came on and I 1423 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: don't want to say unprompted, were talking about the team, 1424 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about the defense, but just offered DT 1425 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: he's he's special. He was like, his get off is 1426 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: borderline elite, Like he's he's really really something great. It's 1427 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 1: it's always good to hear that kind of stuff unprompted, 1428 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, praise from other players, because that's when you 1429 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 1: know it's legit. That's when other players are looking at 1430 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: the film and watching and going, my goodness, this guy 1431 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: is on it right and and that's great to hear. 1432 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: But the one thing that I do want to see 1433 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: is two things. Number one and going into this game 1434 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: against the Jacks, if this defense is really turned and 1435 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 1: you've got two offensive coordinators that your defense better than anybody. 1436 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: That means they're going to try. They are going to 1437 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,560 Speaker 1: put your defense in conflict constantly. They are going to 1438 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: pick and harp at the weak points of your system. 1439 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: And can you handle that? And can you handle that? 1440 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: Can you pass it off? Can you understand what they're 1441 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: doing and be able to combat that in an appropriate 1442 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 1: manner both with individual play and also with game planning. 1443 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 1: That's number one. So if they can shut down the 1444 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Jags offensively, I'll feel really good about that heading into 1445 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: the buy knowing that you've got Green Bay following that. 1446 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,560 Speaker 1: The second thing is you've got to put together a 1447 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,639 Speaker 1: better offensive game plan than what you did against the Saints. 1448 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love the idea of running the football 1449 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 1: and trying to protect Geno Smith, but not at the 1450 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: point of, you know, cutting off your nose despite your face, 1451 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 1: Like I just I don't like that at all. And 1452 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that trying to line up in heavy personnel 1453 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 1: and trying to get into these heavy box counts and 1454 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: eight mans nine man boxes and all that, that's not 1455 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: who this team is. It's what they might want to be. 1456 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 1: But find different ways to run the football that you 1457 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,639 Speaker 1: can be effective. Put Alex Collins in the best positions, 1458 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,440 Speaker 1: put whoever starting at center in the best positions to succeed. 1459 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: And if you can do that effectively and keep your 1460 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 1: playmakers in Tyler Lockett and Dk Metcalf involved enough, I 1461 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: think that that will will be a recipe for success 1462 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 1: for this group. Looking at the defensive side of things, Jake, 1463 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I know that you point into Trevor Lawrence making the 1464 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: bulk of those turnovers earlier this season and kind of 1465 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 1: ironing a little bit of that out, but there's still 1466 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 1: minus ten and turnover differential which is thirty first, So 1467 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: I know it's weighted toward the beginning of the season. 1468 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: But do we think there's a better opportunity here versus 1469 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback than there is against Aaron Rodgers the 1470 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 1: week after and forcing a mistake without question? I mean, Dave, 1471 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: you know this. When you see somebody like that, like 1472 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: blood on the water, rookie who is turnover and is 1473 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,720 Speaker 1: willing to force things, I mean, I mean, you know 1474 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,640 Speaker 1: the recipe, the recipe to get after those guys, and 1475 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 1: to get after them early. It can really disrupt their 1476 01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: rhythm and the way they see the game more than 1477 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 1: any other type of quarterback and that's I think one 1478 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: of the keys that the Seahawks probably need are are 1479 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: trying trying to shoot for. Yeah, I would yeah, like 1480 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: you said, perfectly, put blood in the water. Yeah, go 1481 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 1: go get him, go light him up. So and then 1482 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, that's another way to use Bobby in a 1483 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: really aggressive way is get him blitzing, you know, and 1484 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: then a lot of times you'll see where he'll run 1485 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: into it's a blitz and he runs through it and 1486 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: it ends up being a run and then he'll get 1487 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 1: a tackle for loss. So I mean to me, if 1488 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: if you get it, that's how you get Bobby to 1489 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: play downhill and get him to play, you know, aggressively, 1490 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 1: is just blitz him. So you know, I would say, yeah, 1491 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: why not go after the rookie and see, I mean, look, 1492 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: they know that this guy's cutting his teeth right now, 1493 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 1: you know, And if you're a defensive coordina, you're going, Yeah, 1494 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: they're probably just gonna keep throwing him out there. They 1495 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 1: know that they're not gonna win this year. And let's 1496 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 1: see what this kid's all about. I didn't realize he 1497 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,599 Speaker 1: was six foot six. Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, yeah, 1498 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: human tree dude, he is and you know he's just 1499 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 1: like that long hair and everything. I mean, man, he 1500 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: is a spectacle. I mean, and he was like if 1501 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon could ball out. Yeah, exactly. By the way, Jake, 1502 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: great job. I thought for sure you're going to say 1503 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: cut off your lips in spite of your face, or 1504 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 1: cut off your face. Curtis and we follow. Jake is 1505 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 1: a jack of all aces, like pulling massic out of 1506 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,679 Speaker 1: a hat. That's it an eggshell. I had one today apparently, 1507 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: and said it's like planning a seed and growing water, 1508 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: which I love it. Curtis got in my ear after 1509 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: that one Jake and said he did it right. I 1510 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: said that, and I thought to myself, please let that 1511 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 1: be right, Please let it I bet that's kind of 1512 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: like a throwing like a sixty yard bomb and someone 1513 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: that you're just who double coverage And I bought it right, 1514 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: And know what it is? It's the feeling is is 1515 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 1: that you you throw it, you get hit as you throw, 1516 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: you don't see the completion. You're just sitting there and 1517 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: you hear the crowd cheer eating for the reaction. Exactly 1518 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: did I did? I Did it get completed or not Yeah, 1519 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: we got some good Jake is sweat and bullets on 1520 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,640 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I'm shocked. Something to lean your hat on, 1521 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: Jag Damario O'Davis did the same thing I did. I 1522 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,679 Speaker 1: felt like we were kindred. Do you remember what he said? 1523 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 1: He said? What did he say? He said? He didn't 1524 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:21,680 Speaker 1: say lean your hat He said it was a sim yeah, yeah, yeah, 1525 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, yeah, something you can take 1526 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 1: your hat on. I know I felt him. We heard 1527 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: that and we were like, hey, this guy. We got 1528 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 1: a guy like that at the station. Yeah, yeah, we 1529 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: know someone just like that. That's that's that's Jake. But Jake, 1530 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: it was it just doesn't sound right when you got 1531 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 1: that right, you said shut off your nose. Despite your friend, 1532 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I didn't like it either. No, 1533 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: I want something else from this team on Sunday. All right, 1534 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: So we know that the key is going to be 1535 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 1: to be physical, and Jake, you're looking at like a 1536 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: better offensive game plan. Um, can we uh end there 1537 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 1: for in the in just the final two minutes here 1538 01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 1: and talk about just what we want to be able 1539 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 1: to see offensively and from both of you quickly. The 1540 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 1: Jags they play a lot of Cover three. They play 1541 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fire zone. Okay, they play a lot 1542 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: of fire zone coverage means they bring pressure. They want 1543 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 1: to force pressure onto the quarterback. They play Cover three 1544 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: zone behind it, which means that there's a lot of 1545 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: voids in the zone if you can protect. So you 1546 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: need to protect when you have your chances with Gino 1547 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 1: Smith first and that will allow you to, you know, 1548 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: take advantage of a lot of the open voids in 1549 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 1: the zone. The second part, and again this is all 1550 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: the passing game, because to me, they should be able 1551 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 1: to run the football against the Jacks. But the difference 1552 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 1: in that Saints game is the fact that they were 1553 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 1: non existent in the passing game. You're also gonna they 1554 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: also play a lot of man to man coverage one 1555 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,960 Speaker 1: on one opportunities. You have to take advantage of it 1556 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,320 Speaker 1: with the weaponry that you have, and you've got a 1557 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,799 Speaker 1: lot of guys that can win one on one matchups 1558 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 1: and you gotta trust them to do that. That'll be 1559 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: interesting to see the matchup between Shaquille and DK, especially 1560 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 1: after what we heard that's gonna be. And you mentioned 1561 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 1: the man to man coverage. You say fires zone, are 1562 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: you talking about like a zone blitz where they'll drop lineman. Yes, 1563 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: yeah see, you know, and I saw a couple of 1564 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 1: mistakes that they made. One is something that we've actually 1565 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 1: fallen victim too. But one of their safeties dropped or 1566 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, you dropped back and then jump something short 1567 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 1: order back throws something over his head. You know that's 1568 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,799 Speaker 1: and then if you're dropping a defensive lineman, I'll always 1569 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 1: take that. If I'm a quarterback, they don't know what 1570 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,759 Speaker 1: they're doing, Nope, not at all. They still don't understand 1571 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 1: and you can try to train him, but it just 1572 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 1: doesn't order. All right. This has been the Huddle with 1573 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps and Stacy Ross. This game against 1574 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 1: the Jags happening at Loumanfield one oh five pm, that 1575 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 1: final game before a week nine by broadcast is going 1576 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 1: to be on CBS play by play by Greg Gumbel. 1577 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: And don't forget you can listen to the broadcast on 1578 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: the Seahawks Radio network. That's right here on seven ten ESPN, 1579 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: Seattle KIBRA Radio ninety seven three. Steve Rabel on the 1580 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 1: call into our own Dave Wyman, Dave Jake, thanks so 1581 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: much for joining us all for the huddle Dave's sticking 1582 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: around for Wyman and Bob Coming your Way next on 1583 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 1: seven ten ESPN, Seattle,