WEBVTT - David Stern, A 76ers Remembrance Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>David Stern was a giant, a person whose impact on

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA was ubiquitous, transformative, far reaching. I think him

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<v Speaker 1>and doctor James Naismith is two of the most important

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<v Speaker 1>people for the game of basketball. Obviously doctor Naysmith because

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<v Speaker 1>he created the game, then David his vision to make

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<v Speaker 1>this game global. On New Year's Day, Stern passed away

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<v Speaker 1>at the age of seventy seven, and since then there

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<v Speaker 1>have been plenty of stories shared across the league about

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<v Speaker 1>the former commissioner's remarkable run, and we've got a few

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<v Speaker 1>of our own. Innovator thought leader for Alliant, a leader

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<v Speaker 1>of leaders, he was a force. He's a father figure,

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<v Speaker 1>this legend in his prime. On this episode of the broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>members of the seventy six Ers family reflect on David

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<v Speaker 1>Stern's life, career, and legacy. How are you doing out there,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six Ers pod people. I hope you are great

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoyable holiday and your two twenty is off to

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<v Speaker 1>a nice start. I'm Brian Seltzer, and before we get going,

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<v Speaker 1>our pod and then some and we hope again you

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<v Speaker 1>do subscribe. Former NBA Commissioner David Stern died Wednesday at

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<v Speaker 1>the age of seventy seven. He suffered a brain hemorrhage

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<v Speaker 1>several weeks ago and had been in serious condition after

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<v Speaker 1>undergoing emergency. Stern was the NBA's longest tenured commissioner. He

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<v Speaker 1>held the league's top post for thirty years. From all over,

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<v Speaker 1>from an NBA icon to a former president, tributes have

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<v Speaker 1>poured in and the sentiment is unanimous. With the passing

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<v Speaker 1>of David Stern, the sports world and the world in

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<v Speaker 1>general lost to Titan Hi. I'm Kreiman Abdul Jabara, and

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone else, I'm setting by the loss of the

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<v Speaker 1>former commissioner of the NBA, mister David Stern. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a giant as far as the game was concerned. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your reaction to the news of David's turning For

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<v Speaker 1>me personally, it was a dream come true to step

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<v Speaker 1>up on that stage and shaking David's hand. Dan just

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<v Speaker 1>gaining the relationship over the course of my career with him,

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<v Speaker 1>my prayers and condulescens ghost was family. Personally, He's met

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal because when I was younger, I did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stupid things, and it's terrifying to go

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<v Speaker 1>in his office. He ran a tight chip when he

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<v Speaker 1>got you in there, but at the meeting he would

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<v Speaker 1>always tell you, hey, you got to learn from this,

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<v Speaker 1>grow and mature. Even when he was given it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>he did it like a father figure. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>number love and respect for David and bless him. In

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<v Speaker 1>learning more about Stern's life for this podcast, it became

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<v Speaker 1>clear that there are many layers to his legacy. He

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<v Speaker 1>could be both compassionate and brutally tough, curious and combative.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came to matters of basketball and beyond. There

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be no stone he wouldn't or couldn't overturn.

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<v Speaker 1>A native of New York, Stern began his professional career

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<v Speaker 1>as a lawyer, a vocation that ultimately paved his path

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<v Speaker 1>to the National Basketball Association, which he joined on a

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<v Speaker 1>part time basis in the late nineteen sixties. On February first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty four, after serving as Larry O'Brien's right hand man,

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<v Speaker 1>Stern was named commissioner on a full time basis. He

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<v Speaker 1>held the post for thirty years until January thirty first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. Under Stern's watch, the NBA emerged from a

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<v Speaker 1>particularly sketchy period to become a force. Individual superstars were

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<v Speaker 1>born as the league tapped into a global marketplace, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this growth was underscored by an air of

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<v Speaker 1>social responsibility and progressiveness that distinguished the NBA from its peers.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about the tone Sterns said following Magic johnson stunning

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<v Speaker 1>public HIV announcement. When Magic understood that he was HIV positive,

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<v Speaker 1>they asked for the support of his teammates, the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>in the league. Everybody said, this is a very courageous,

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<v Speaker 1>heroic person on a heroic act, and way all pledge

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<v Speaker 1>now support and the creation of the w NBA. Kennice

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<v Speaker 1>Parker a star in that league. What does that meant

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<v Speaker 1>to your life? It means everything. I went from shooting

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<v Speaker 1>in the driveway trying to be like Michael Jordan to

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be like Cynthia Cooper and Tina Thompson. We

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<v Speaker 1>are so thankful for what he's done, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>the w BA. Yes, the boom of basketball towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the twentieth century was largely David Stern's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He of course, had help along the way, and trusted

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<v Speaker 1>deputy commissioners, to staffers at the league office, to owners

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<v Speaker 1>and the players themselves. Over the past couple of days,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent time talking to several members of the seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six ers family about their experiences with Stern, his influence

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<v Speaker 1>on them, and the impact he had not just on

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<v Speaker 1>hoops but the world. Why don't we start with a

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<v Speaker 1>kid fresh out of college and a couple months on

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<v Speaker 1>the job in the Basketball Operations department of the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>League Office. At the time, basketball ops at the League

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<v Speaker 1>office was a smaller outfit and down the hall from

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner. Some of the interactions were by design. Others,

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<v Speaker 1>we're impromptu. This is Nid Collen, currently assistant general manager

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<v Speaker 1>for the seventy six ers. I found out quickly that

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<v Speaker 1>it was important to be prepared for any potential interaction

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<v Speaker 1>with David prior to joining the organization in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He had been at the NBA for twelve years. One time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a Friday afternoon, and you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>mind is already focused on the weekends, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two years old, whatever it was, and I hop

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<v Speaker 1>on the elevator, I here hold it. David jumps on

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<v Speaker 1>and then just proceeds to grill me on a variety

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<v Speaker 1>of different things that I didn't perform very well that day.

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<v Speaker 1>And from that moment forward, any time I would walk

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<v Speaker 1>out to the elevator, I knew exactly what I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to talk about. I was gonna say, what did

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<v Speaker 1>your weekend end up? Being? Like a lot of wish

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<v Speaker 1>I had done something differently, but it clearly whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen years later, that elevator ride stuck with me when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Stern and how he operated not just

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<v Speaker 1>his business but his life. Few things seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>left to chance. He was thorough tactical, omnipresent. As someone

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<v Speaker 1>told me, he knew everything. These elevator encounters, or perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>better put, interrogations like the one Cohen recalled, weren't limited

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<v Speaker 1>to Cohen alone. In one obituary about Stern, Written by

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN's Adrian Rojanovski. Another elevator tale was told. In this instance,

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<v Speaker 1>during the late nineteen nineties, Stern just so happened to

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<v Speaker 1>share a ride with a staffer whose responsibility was overseeing

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<v Speaker 1>the league's licensing efforts. Immediately upon getting into the elevator,

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<v Speaker 1>Stern started peppering this person about the w NBA ball

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<v Speaker 1>that was being sold in in good stores. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>them removed. Nick Cohen, isn't so certain that these quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote random runnings were really all that random. Definitely was

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<v Speaker 1>not an accident. At times, I think, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have memorable interactions like that. I think that he, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he took a lot of pride in having, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who worked with them motivated to do their best.

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<v Speaker 1>You needed to be prepared, and he expected that, and

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<v Speaker 1>his memory was incomparable. He'd ask a question of something

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<v Speaker 1>and you would offer an answer, and, um, it may

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<v Speaker 1>be an opinion, but um, a couple months later, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Okay, it didn't quite turn out like I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would. Um, well, he's got a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's no way he's thinking about that. But sure, enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it was in his for his recall, everything was bound

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<v Speaker 1>in the history books, and you were you were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of on record with him for that. Chris Heck is

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<v Speaker 1>team president of the seventy six ers. One of his

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<v Speaker 1>previous stops in his career was at the NBA, where

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<v Speaker 1>he was Senior vice president of Marketing Partnerships. In one breath,

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<v Speaker 1>Heck describe Stern like this. They say that he was

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest commissioner ever. I almost think that's an understatement.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this any sport you're saying, Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked for him for seven years in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I traveled the world with him. Not only was he

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<v Speaker 1>a leader of leaders, but he was arguably the most

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant person I've ever been around. And I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>in every sense, from book smarts to street smarts, to

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<v Speaker 1>toughness to vision. Then in the next breath, Heck has

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of thing to say about his former boss. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was not a waf flower. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>He's was an unbelievably intimidating figure because of the power

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<v Speaker 1>he wielded, and he had world leaders thinking of him

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<v Speaker 1>as the guy right. It was unreal to be in

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<v Speaker 1>his presence in that sense, and being part of his entourage,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak. Presence. Presence is a noteworthy word in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of Stern. What is presence anyway? How would

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<v Speaker 1>you define it? Presence certainly isn't tangible, and it can

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<v Speaker 1>be measured in a variety of different ways. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen footage or photos of Stern, or maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>spotted him at a game in the past, you know

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<v Speaker 1>his height belies his prominence and influence. Google David Stern

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<v Speaker 1>and height and you'll immediately be sent to his Wikipedia bio,

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<v Speaker 1>which lists him as five foot nine. He had Cohen

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Stern for over a decade. Size had no

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<v Speaker 1>bearing whatsoever on Stern's presence. You know, I've seen some

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<v Speaker 1>articles that um reference, you know, a guy five foot nine.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no ways five nine. That was pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 1>generous with David's height. But whatever room he was in,

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<v Speaker 1>the attention focused on him. It could be him speaking

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a you know, a group of all stars,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be the head coaches, whatever it was, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>kind of everyone's attention went to him, and kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone knew who was in charge. I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, you know, he was a you know Stern

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<v Speaker 1>is not just a name, it was also his PERSONA.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott O'Neill has been in the NBA for over twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>both on the team side and the league side. These days,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the chief executive officer of harn Splitzer Sports and Entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>the parent company of the seventy sixers. Before the Sixers,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott ran Madison Square Garden Sports. Before that, he was

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<v Speaker 1>Senior vice President of Team Marketing and Business Operations for

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. All these years later, the four digit extension

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<v Speaker 1>from Starns line at the league office is still ingrained

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<v Speaker 1>in O'Neill's mind, and he's not alone when that number

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three flash on your phone, it was not a

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<v Speaker 1>warm and fuzzy feeling. You know he was coming with heat.

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<v Speaker 1>It would not be surprising to see that extension eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred pop up and David's calling to check in

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<v Speaker 1>on whatever it might be and need Cohen. It was

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<v Speaker 1>critical that you were prepared and ready with the answers

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<v Speaker 1>at your fingertips there, and he had a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>cover and be responsible for, and he expected that people

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<v Speaker 1>would be ready and that his time would be well spent.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Heck, the tricky part is that he could call

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<v Speaker 1>you and you just be like his assistant would call

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<v Speaker 1>and say, be up there in thirty seconds. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you feel, what, Oh, it's it's Principle's office times ten,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you're just scared to death. But also

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<v Speaker 1>know that he's calling you up there for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not doing it for an exercise. He's doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for efficiency and for function, and and that was a

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<v Speaker 1>great honor to give him information and know that you

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<v Speaker 1>actually knew what you were talking about. O'Neill used words

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<v Speaker 1>like treacherous, intense, and high pressure to describe some of

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<v Speaker 1>the calls he got from Stern back then. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>reflects on Extension eighty three hundred fondly, he wanted and

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<v Speaker 1>deserved and demanded excellence. I mean he used to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about every meeting I was in with him, he used

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the relentless pursuit of perfection over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. Stern totally understood that what he

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<v Speaker 1>was striving for wasn't actually attainable. That didn't curb his

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<v Speaker 1>ambition one bit. He had a common refrain that were

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<v Speaker 1>constantly on the road to perfection, knowing that we're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to get there, but never stop trying to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and he relished kind of those details in an attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve perfection. I remember actually sitting with David and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Detroit at one time. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a Pistons game in Detroit against Cleveland, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was the Eastern Conference finals when Lebron was

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<v Speaker 1>first or second year player, and I was sitting next

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<v Speaker 1>to him and he said, how much does that sign

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<v Speaker 1>cost over there? And I'm like, uh, you know, stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and then he just kept going. He

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<v Speaker 1>had this unique method of making you prepare, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't prepare, you were You were not there for long.

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<v Speaker 1>You were not there for long. I take it as

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<v Speaker 1>a true badge of honor of being there for seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing so about him. He was He was sarcastic, he

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<v Speaker 1>was right, he was New York through and through. Of

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<v Speaker 1>all Stern's qualities, there was one that stood out above

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<v Speaker 1>the rest. His intellect was second to none. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a man who would wake up every day thinking he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know anything. This deep knowledge of everyone's business was

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<v Speaker 1>beyond belief. His depth and breadth of knowledge inside the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA in sport, but outside current events, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things that he was passionate about outside of basketball, he

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<v Speaker 1>immersed himself in it. He was a voracious reader and

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<v Speaker 1>would constantly quiz employees on what they were or weren't

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed on. He was into a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things like politics and had his opinions, and when he

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<v Speaker 1>would find out that you may be on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the aisle, he would go right after you,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would have to be prepared, which I secretly

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed those confrontations, both with business as well as, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>personal beliefs. He would read and study, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>interested in politics and life sciences and business just as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he was in sports. He read every newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>He read all the trades from all these different aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of life and business and geopolitics, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>understood that sports has that special place in the cross

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<v Speaker 1>section of it all, and that we provide that little

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<v Speaker 1>slice of escapism that's so necessary in building communities and

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<v Speaker 1>changing lives. He was NonStop and his mind was continuously

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<v Speaker 1>running on ways that he could have an impact. Stern's

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<v Speaker 1>influence on both the NBA and the international sporting community

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<v Speaker 1>is the kind of thing you measure in massive milestones,

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<v Speaker 1>and how he managed watershed moments. Through it all, Stern

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<v Speaker 1>relied on a consistent stable of external partners to help

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<v Speaker 1>him execute his fish. There were the teams that made

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<v Speaker 1>up the league and the businesses that supported it, But

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<v Speaker 1>the success of any sports league, to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 1>hinges on the relationship it has with the people responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for actually providing and creating the product. In this case, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the players. More of this David Stern

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<v Speaker 1>About David Stern and the NBA players, sometimes circumstances called

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<v Speaker 1>for Stern to stay and with the players, other times

0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 1>he was forced to line up opposite them, either way

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<v Speaker 1>looking out for the best interests of the NBA and

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<v Speaker 1>protecting the league. We're always at the root of his decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>They see the narrative of business person tough, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you also have the side where he related to the players.

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<v Speaker 1>He related to us. Elton Brand played in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>for parts of seventeen seasons. David Stern was the league's

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner for one thousand and two of Brand's one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety six career games. Very personable, charismatic person and

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<v Speaker 1>it was genuine like this is business, this is who

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<v Speaker 1>I am. You know, we can talk and we can

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<v Speaker 1>be friends, but if we have a deal, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to get the best deal from both sides and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we can grow this business and grow this

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<v Speaker 1>pie of the NBA, which he did for the players. Brand,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is in the midst of his second season

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<v Speaker 1>as the seventy six ers general manager. Over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of his All Star career and as he continues to

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<v Speaker 1>do now in his role as an executive, Brand took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of opportunities to try abroad in an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>grow the game. That was one of Stern's top initiatives

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<v Speaker 1>and biggest accomplishments. Basketball, NBA sports breaks a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>barries around the world. So when we went to Asia

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<v Speaker 1>with the NBA, I went to Russia with the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>went to Mexico with the NBA and to see the fans,

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<v Speaker 1>just to see the smiles in their faces they knew

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<v Speaker 1>the players. You know, that's there's like Elan Brand twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and ten. You know, it's just like wow, like, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you know who I am? How do you know

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<v Speaker 1>about the NBA? How do you follow this like they did?

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<v Speaker 1>And just growing the business of it and also relating

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<v Speaker 1>to different cultures. You can go to my laptop. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pull up some archive photos. I think this was

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<v Speaker 1>from two thousand and six from a European tour that

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<v Speaker 1>you were part of. I see Tim Duncan in there,

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<v Speaker 1>Andre Gadalashawan, Maryon, Tony Parker, Steve Nash, David Stern When

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<v Speaker 1>he would accompany you guys on trips like this. How

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<v Speaker 1>close was the interactions with players? Were there certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that he spoke to about as far as the league's

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility to promoting the game overseas and abroad. Absolutely, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>to just be him and us. It wouldn't be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, other staff or employees. He just

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<v Speaker 1>want to relate to us, you know, as a group

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<v Speaker 1>and as a leader, and get our thoughts and what

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't like, what we felt we can do better,

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<v Speaker 1>or what the league could do better, and really caring

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<v Speaker 1>as what we felt. We felt that he really cared

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<v Speaker 1>about us and he wanted to care about the business

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<v Speaker 1>but he cared about us as humans. The most prominent

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<v Speaker 1>and powerful example of Stearn's capacity to empathize with players

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<v Speaker 1>to rally around them was arguably his full fledged, proactive

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<v Speaker 1>support of Magic Johnson in the aftermath of the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famers Shocking HIV press conference. It was nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>and at that time, fear and confusion surrounding HIV AIDS

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<v Speaker 1>was at its peak once again, Ned Cohen, if you

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<v Speaker 1>asked David what his major achievements were during his time, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he'll cite things like the changing in the

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<v Speaker 1>worldview regarding HIV and AIDS after Magic Johnson, Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>know in ninety one, and uh, you know, elements that

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<v Speaker 1>relate to societal progress. He took great pride in the

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<v Speaker 1>platform and the support for NBA players to have impacts

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<v Speaker 1>in their communities and with their voices, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's another area that he deserves a tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of credit for. Elton Brand was twelve years old when

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<v Speaker 1>Magic made his announcement. He remembers what the national dialogue

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding HIV AIDS was like in the early nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>He was young. Then. Time has given Brand an even

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<v Speaker 1>greater appreciation for the steadfast support the league through behind

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and his desire to use his diagnosis as a

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<v Speaker 1>platform to promote public awareness. It's great symbolism, it's great support,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was needed, you know, just from an educational standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid. I'm thinking you can get HIV

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<v Speaker 1>from someone shaking your hand from sweat, and I'm just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna play against them. Other players may have came

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<v Speaker 1>out and says some things at the time, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like for him to stand up, you know, in hindsight

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of create create a barrier from that stigma

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<v Speaker 1>and this is not true. You can play, you can

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have a life, you can live with HIV,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to support one of ours that's dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with this issue. It was a great statement. Another one

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<v Speaker 1>of Stearn's great success stories working in partnership with the players,

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<v Speaker 1>came less than a year later, in the summer of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety two. I think there's a pretty decent chance

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<v Speaker 1>that a couple of you out there probably weren't even

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<v Speaker 1>a thought on the great great hour of life at

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<v Speaker 1>that point in the time. Me I was just on

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of entering the prime of my sports craving youth.

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<v Speaker 1>Elk Brand was too following a Dream Team. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>is this amazing example of you know, the greatness of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA players, the visibility of the NBA players. The

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<v Speaker 1>Dream Team was incredible. I was captivated by during the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympics in Barcelona, the best American basketball players all in

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<v Speaker 1>a single squad, absolutely destroying the competition. Charles Barkley led

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<v Speaker 1>the team scoring, and the United States scored over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred points in each of its six games, winning them

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<v Speaker 1>all by no fewer than thirty eight points. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>good this group was. And David Stern was largely credited

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<v Speaker 1>and rightfully credited for convincing owners to let their players

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<v Speaker 1>compete on a larger, more significant scale than the Americans

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<v Speaker 1>winning the gold medal that year. Was that the Dream

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<v Speaker 1>Team's run only made basketball that much more popular and accessible,

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<v Speaker 1>both at home and around the world. They were rock stars,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everywhere they went there was crowds and Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan and you know, Scottie Pippen and Barkley and the

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<v Speaker 1>Magic Bird, like they're just rock stars around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my first time, you know, really understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>it was bigger than the US. The NBA was an

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<v Speaker 1>actual global game, and Davids third played a pivotal part

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<v Speaker 1>in allowing NBA players to represent their countries in the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>And I further represented the USA and in many competitions.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking about opening doors. That's another door he

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<v Speaker 1>opened up. He was a driver for the Dream Team

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<v Speaker 1>coming into you know, into effect in ninety two. The

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<v Speaker 1>US team was miles ahead of the game across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And you look at it now where I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was one hundred and eight international players part of the

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>NBA at the start of this season, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a fourth of the league. So not only the

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<v Speaker 1>presence of those international players, but the impact and the

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>style of play that that has influenced over time. During

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<v Speaker 1>Stern's watch, the NBA held its first regular season games

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in Japan, Mexico, and England. Preseason games were played in Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bahamas, Puerto Rico, France, Germany, Spain, China, and Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard the telling stat that Ned Cohen rattled off

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<v Speaker 1>that roughly a quarter of the league's players now were

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<v Speaker 1>born outside the United States. On the seventy six ers

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<v Speaker 1>roster alone this year, eight of their seventeen players have

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<v Speaker 1>foreign citizenship. Players worked with Stern to grow the game

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>across the world, and in turn, he helped them become

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<v Speaker 1>on balance, more recognizable than any of their peers from

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<v Speaker 1>the other American professional sports Chris Hack. What the NBA

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>is now are these global superstars that are also icons,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, particularly with social media today and how

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the world has become smaller um their superstars off the

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>court too, and I think that he recognized that before

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>anyone else. Elton Brand praised David Stern for creating an

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>environment in the NBA in which players could be themselves.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>You could actually say what you wanted to say, have

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>an opinion, and it wasn't about just catering to what

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>the NBA needed and what their messaging was. You can

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<v Speaker 1>be free. You felt free being within the NBA under

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>his leadership, for sure, and he's left the you know,

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>great legacy that we continue to pave that path for

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>future generations. But again he started with that. He pushed

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the superstars and you know, the Michael Jordan's of the world,

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and just how that blew the NBA up to just

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<v Speaker 1>the level that it is now. The relationship between Stern

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and one of his most vital external partners, the NBA players,

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>wasn't always harmonious. Now, be getting the threat of or

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>resolving work stoppages comes hand in hand with any commissioner's job.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Stern helped guide the league through lockouts in nineteen ninety

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>eight and two thousan eleven, both of which cost the

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>NBA games. In between, there was the infamous Sad Game

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>between the Detroit Pistons and the Indiana Pacers in November

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and four. That was a brawl that

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>spilled over into the stands, and it was at a

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>time when the NBA was, you know, in players and

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the superstars were not very well regarded. We're not here

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<v Speaker 1>to rehash one of the more disappointing events in the

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>history of a proud league, but the punishments that Stern

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>handed down to the players involved were swift, steep, and historic.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>In the room, there were a thousand reasons why he couldn't, shouldn't,

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't do what he purported to do, which was

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>suspend a lot of players, you know, but he did it,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and I just saw it close and personally, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure how to explain it without giving up the confidence

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>in the room other than to say that, you know,

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I saw true leadership and stewardship and willingness to make

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the tough decision, the tough call and do what needed

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to be done at a time when the basketball fans

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>around the world needed to see it done. Another ripple

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>effect resulting from the Fight of the Palace was the

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>dress code change that Stern implemented. Initially, there was some resistance.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember when the whole dress code thing went down.

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I would remember discussing it for with him for hours

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>on a plane, and he was just like, I think

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>it'll be nice. It'll be we'll shake it up a

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>little bit, and it was ended up being this brilliant

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>maneuver to highlight players off the court, as opposed to

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning was like no ripped jeans and wear

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a collared shirt. Now everybody wearing some unique fashion statement.

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I dare you to find me a team's Instagram or

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Twitter feed that doesn't have a pregame drip carousel post.

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>It's consistently, at least for us at at six Ers,

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>one of our most engaging pieces of game day content.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Players might not have always agreed with Stern, but in

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the end they did respect him. He made sure they

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>knew where he stood, like it or not, and that

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it was clear that he was doing what in his

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>mind was right for the game. He followed like, I

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>was on the board, I was on the committees, and

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you know I represented the team, you know in some

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 1>of those meetings, and it's he was quite honest. It's

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like we need to clean us up consumers television. You know,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he explained it in a way that he said, Okay,

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>this is bigger than me at this point. Fair unfair

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>for me to not where a throwback jersey or do

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>something on the bench, you know, want to look professional.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>We understand or the CB what I'd say, disagreements like

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>figure out where we're going to meet at. It's like again,

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it was all cordial. You know, we saw how

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>some of the messaging was. He was tough, but it

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>was never you know, to the bitter end, like we

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>can't grow our business and figure this out. Let's figure

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>this out was the message. Scott O'Neill, who was at

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>the NBA for nearly a decade, said he's never seen

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>anyone leading crisis like David Stern. There's so many things

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that David Stern is, and one thing is just an

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>incredible leader. And part of being a leader is this

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>incredible charisma he had and presence, and he could certainly

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>walk into any room and command attention. But I think

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>was more impactful to me was how he made you feel.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, he had this special way, in the toughest

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of times, in full crisis situation, to put his hand

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>on your shoulder or send you a note or say

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>something that was both inspiring, challenging, and made you want

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to be better, work harder, and think faster. In contrast

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to Stern's toughness, there was also this human touch element

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>that sounded like it was just as transcendent and felt

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>across all levels of the NBA by the players, team employees,

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and at the league office. Growing up Peaks Gun, New York,

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like, ah, you know, no one ever made it

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to the NBA from here. Why should I think I will?

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, but you see David Stern shaking the hands,

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the first round draft picks, and you know,

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>when it's your opportunity, it's it's a relief, it's elation.

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, all he stood for all the NBA stood

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for as just an honored and privilege to play and

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>get drafted and to shake his hand. It's like it's

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>like a ceremony. It's like a ceremony, as is the

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>custom for the commissioner of the NBA. Stern would shake

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>hands on stage with each first round draft pick after

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he announced their names. Brand had the distinction of going

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>number one overall in nineteen ninety nine. There was another

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>connection that he and Stern shared that Stern would tend

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to bring up whenever he and Brand cross paths. He

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>always would talk about me being from West Sester, New York. Yeah,

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>he's a New York guy, and he's like, you know,

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>nine one four West Sester, And it was like ant

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>because you have, you know, the commissioner like showing you

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>love like that and knowing about your area and things

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>like that. So that was a special feeling. It was

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a sense of pride that I felt knowing he was

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>from the area and he, you know, would talk to

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>me about that perspective from Ned Cohen. I think at

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>times we all feel very busy and wrapped up in

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>what we're doing. His willingness to take time to visit

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>with council support, people he worked with or cared about

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>just left such a lasting impact. If you have the

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>commissioner was willing to spend time with me, you know,

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>when I'm twenty four and you know a coordinator, you know,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it just speaks volumes to his investment and care for people.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I spent a lot of time with him, and I'm

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>very blessed and fortunate to be with him and catch

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 1>him at a time in his career where I think

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>he was very focused on mentoring. And I have friends

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>all over the world to have the privilege and honor

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>of working with him, and I think we all feel

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the same way. I mean, our lives are forever better

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and forever different and enriched because of our time with him.

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Scott O'Neil is one of many to have worked for

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Stern at the NBA, then later go on to assume

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>a high ranking position in sports. There's also an NHL Commissioner,

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Gary Bettman, current NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, NBA president Amy Brooks,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Chris Heck with the Sixers, Golden State Warriors president Rick Welts,

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Caroline and Panther's president Tom Click, and Chris Granger, who

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>runs the Detroit Tiger and Red Wings. At one point

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>O'Neill thought there was no shot Stern would ever retire

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.479
<v Speaker 1>from his post as commissioner, But on January thirty first,

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, Stern passed the post along to Silver, his protegee.

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Later that year, in August, Stern wasn't shrined in the

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Naysmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. You could certainly make

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>the case that Stern did as much for the game

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 1>as anyone aside from the guy whose name is on

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that building, and even that might be up for debate.

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Where was it that Stern celebrated success, whether his own

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>or the league's. He just wasn't the kind to hand

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>out compliments. O'Neill was in attendance for Stern's Hall of

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Fame ceremony in Springfield, Massachusetts. David was not really fond

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>of awards or recognition, so I thought it was kind

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of funny. I want to ask him if he would

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>ever have a book written, because I was always interested,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>like I would read the book about David Stern in

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>his life. And he said, no, I've chosen. I chose

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>him a long time ago that I was going to

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>live for today. And I was not going to worry

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 1>about my press clippings, he said, long after I'm gone,

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>someone else would be the judge of how well I

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>did or how well I didn't do. And then he added, however,

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>if I did write a book, it would be called

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Micromanagement is Underrated. And I thought that was so funny,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and I said wow. And he later edited that a

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of years later to episodic Micromanagement is Underrated, which

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>he was famous for. So a deep dish thinks were

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>going wrong? And I said, well, what I said, what

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>would the sequel be? He said, management by fear and

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>intimidation and I literally burst out laughing. I don't know

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>if he was joking. I didn't know if he was serious,

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>but I laughed out loud. These are the types of

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>stories you hear when you start talking to people about Stern,

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>those who knew him best, who worked with him closely. Yes,

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>he was absolutely relentless, but he was also totally revered.

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>As Commissioner Emeritus of the NBA, there was no slowing

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Stern down. He definitely did not use the word retirement,

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 1>nor would it have been fitting ned Cone. Again, you know,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>the the passion and nature of his his appetite to

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>learn just stands out in such an amazing way. Um So,

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>when I was in New York, um with the League office,

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>as you know, as he made that transition, every couple

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of months, I'd go a couple of blocks uptown to

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>his h his office, and we'd we'd sit around. He'd

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, ask a lot about kind of what was

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>going on with me, uh in such a thoughtful sort

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of way. But he'd also tell me everything that he

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>had going on. And you know, being on the cutting

0:37:55.960 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 1>edge of in the sports tech space and advising number

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>of companies, and he was a non stop a little

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>more than two years ago. The four primary voices you've

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 1>heard in this piece, Scott O'Neill, Elton Brand, Chris Heck

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and Ned Cohen all had the opportunity as seventy six

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>ers employees to reconnect with a man who had given

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>them so much. At the team's training complex in Camden,

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 1>where Stern was visiting to serve as the marquee speaker

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>for a sports science summit hosted by Harris Splitzer Sports

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and Entertainment. His mind was sharp, still thinking about the future,

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>stood thinking about brands, still thinking about growing companies, still

0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:38.880
<v Speaker 1>cares a lot about the NBA and still talked about Westchester.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Chris Heck's final in person interaction with David Stern was

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>just days before his brain hemorrhage. I saw him the

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>first week of December. He looks, he looks good, he

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>looked healthy. The one thing about David was that I'm

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>glad for his sake and that he um, it was

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>strong till the end, right, and so strong minded and enable.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 1>And he died at a relatively younger age at seventy seven,

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>but what he squeezed into that seventy seven years is

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>probably one hundred and fifty years. And uh, and that's

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that's something special. The last time I corresponded but with

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:29.439
<v Speaker 1>David was in mid October DC, right after the birth

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of my daughter, firstborn, and you know, corresponded by email

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, fitting in that um. You know, the

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>last time was about something you know, personal and important

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, life changing for me because he was

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>always there for me and and those other experiences since

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>we got to know each other. So just really memorable

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>for his support there as well. Scott O'Neill last saw

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Stern about two months ago at a luncheon for the

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>March of times. We got to spend about about ten

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>minutes together. In typical David fashion, he gave me a

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>hard time about our team and our performance and our business,

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and then whispered two or three things about a potential

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>investment that I should be looking at, one that he

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>was already invested in, which I always got to kick

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>out of. He hadn't slowed down, though. He was as

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:32.160
<v Speaker 1>busy as ever, as sharp as attack, astute, connected and

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>just a I don't know. He's one of the kind.

0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>They'll never ever be anybody like David Stern, whether it's

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>with a written obituary, a video tribute, or a remembrance.

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Podcasts like this, it really is a challenge to try

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and put a life like David Starns in the proper

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>context or to do with justice. We appreciate Scott O'Neill,

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Elton Brand, Chris Heck and Ed Cohen for helping us

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.879
<v Speaker 1>try and we hope you enjoyed the listen. Big thanks

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to Alex Nolan, Ryan McDonald and Lauren Rosen for their

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>help in producing this episode of the broadcast. And as

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>a reminder, you can search seventy six ers podcast or

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Sixers podcast network wherever you get your pods to follow

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 1>or subscribe to our feeds. I hope you do. I'm

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Brian Seltzer. Talk to you next time see it. Oh hey,

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you're still there. Great, well if you're still listening. There

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>were a couple of stories that I'd hope to include

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 1>in the podcast that did not make the final cut,

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>but they were really good anecdotes about David Stern and

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 1>his relationships and interactions with some of the guys who

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:01.440
<v Speaker 1>were interviewed for the podcast. So I wanted to include

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>them somewhere somehow. We're going to do it here in

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 1>their raw, unedited form, and we will begin with Ned Cohen,

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.879
<v Speaker 1>who is the Sixers assistant general manager and he used

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to work at the NBA office. He did so for

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>twelve years. Ten of them with Stern talking about the

0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>basketball fan that was inside David Stern and that for

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>everything else that was said about Stern, one of the

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>things that perhaps has gone overlooked is just how passionate

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he was for the game. He was responsible for Stewart.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you, maybe just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for someone to do a job to the extent that

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<v Speaker 1>David did it, and how relentlessly. It seemed like he

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>did it. There had to be a basketball fan in

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>there somewhere, right, So why don't you give us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more on that? I mean, just how much

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>was he passionate about the game? Yeah? He loved the

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>game immensely, So you know the type of person who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, certainly watching it with different lenses in mind,

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>all of the things that the league office was responsible for,

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>whether it be kind of administration of the game, officiating,

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. But he's watching every night

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<v Speaker 1>because also because he loved the game and love the

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>transcendent talents that a number of players, UM over time had,

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the style and capabilities of those players

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and teams as a collective, UM and UM you know

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 1>a few other elements. You know. He he always had

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>his finger on the pulse and whenever, whenever trades occurred,

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to not in role, you know, in any

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of UM management or oversight role, but just for

0:43:56.400 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 1>his understanding. He want he had such an appetite to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what was going on. So you'd pick up you'd

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>pick up the phone, he'd be on the other end,

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>one wondering why both teams did a particular trade. What

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>were they trying to accomplish? And you know, how did

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that work? And so he uh, you know, he was watching,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, constantly after you know, after know when he

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<v Speaker 1>transitioned from commissioner to you know, commissioner meritus because because

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>he loved the game. Nedko talking about the fan inside

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<v Speaker 1>David Stern and will play one more story that did

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<v Speaker 1>not make the podcast, and this one comes from Scott O'Neill,

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the CEO of Harris Splitter Sports and Entertainment. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the top man on the business side for the seventy

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>six ers. Before that, worked in the NBA office for

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a long time with David Stern in the Team Bow division.

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<v Speaker 1>And this story took place in two thousand and three

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>when Scott was getting ready to head out on a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to Denver and Salt Lake City with Stern to

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>do site visits with the Nuggets and the Utah Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything else you would want to be I want to happen, Yeah, yeah,

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I do. I do want to tell I want to

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>tell one quick story. Yeah, I was in um So

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>we were about to fly out to Utah to see

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the Jazz and Denver to see the Nuggets. And traveling

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 1>with David was always an adventure. And I'd gotten a

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>call from his wife I AM the night before and

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I had never spoke in Troy on the phone. I've

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>met her several times, and she said, hey, m Scott,

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm just calling because David has walking pneumonia and if

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>anything happens to him, I'm holding you responsible. And I

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of chuckled to myself. I said, okay, you know,

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 1>no problem, I am. Thanks for the call. I'll make

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>sure I do the best I can. And she said

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>that's not what I'm asking for, and I said, okay.

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, so we got on the plane and we

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.839
<v Speaker 1>uh he was I mean he was in bad shake.

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean he he was coughing and sick and tired,

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'd never seen him rest even before. But he

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bad bad shape. And so we landed in Denver,

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was snowing, you know, went right to the game, the

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>pregame media, halftime media, postgame media. When I say we

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>he you know, I was kind of a caddy advanced

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 1>guy setting everything up. And we got on the plane.

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>We landed in Salt Lake at you know, one on

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>thirty in the morning. You know, he asked me to

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>be in his room at six am so we could

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>start with morning radio. And I said, okay, he's sure,

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to rest, And he said some things

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that weren't very nice, and I said okay, So he

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>had six He gave his room number, so six am

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I knocked on his door. He's all full suit, suited up.

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 1>We get on. We do like four or five radio

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>interviews in Salt Lake Market, and we're driving over together

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>in the car. He's always sat on the front seat.

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I was sat in the back and the driver obviously,

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and I had prepared notes because he was about to

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>speak to just three hundred season take the hold of

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>sweetholders and sponsors. Then we're gonna see Larry Miller, the

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>man you rest in peace, the former owner of the

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Jazz And then we're gonna do a walk through with

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the with the two coaches, and then see the referees

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>and go to the game. And and so we're driving

0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>up and I said, hey, David, you know, would you

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like to see the message points. He's like, I know

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. I was like, oh, okay, you know,

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, we're about to see three hundred people,

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna be up there with no notes, so

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I just want to give you a heads up, like

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 1>if you could just review these message points. He's like,

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:30.879
<v Speaker 1>leave me along, and I was like, oh boy, I've

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>never heard this. He gets on the phone called somebody

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>at the office and he's carrying on, and so I'm

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of waiting patiently. And we get to the dock

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>where where you kind of right where the ramps where

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>you go down to park, and he rips the message

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.280
<v Speaker 1>points out of my hands from the front seat, spends

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen seconds on three pages of notes and I

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>probably spent six hours on throws them back at me

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>they're unstable to the go all over the back, and

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.240
<v Speaker 1>uh walks up to the podium, walk straight to the podium,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>shakes a couple of hands, and hits every single message

0:48:01.719 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>point in three pages that I prepared. And I literally

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 1>when he got off and I'm like, I literally was like,

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.280
<v Speaker 1>do you have a photographic memory? And he just winked.

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's not my first rodeo kid were on

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>for the next meeting, and I thought, holy moley, this

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>is just I am. I am seeing and experiencing greatness.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome, He's an amazing executive and even a

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>better man. Great stuff from Scott O'Neill. And yeah, like

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I kind of said in the podcast, Stern was this

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:36.839
<v Speaker 1>guy who seemed to lead with intimidation and certainly had

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the ability to strike fear in his employees. But like

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>all these people who talked about Stern did so with

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>such high reverence for the guy, so clearly a pretty

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:55.919
<v Speaker 1>special person who without question left such a huge, huge

0:48:56.000 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>mark on a game that so many of us love follow, allow,

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>root for, live and breathe and all that good stuff.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>All Right, this time I'm signing off for good. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for listening. If you hung around this long,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk next time here on the broadcast. See you