1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a high power next Microsoft 2 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: executive and more important in my mind, a father, a 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: young man in the prime of his life is gunned 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: down in an obscure setting at night, on a scheduled 5 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: return from a pickup of his children that he visits 6 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: from his first wife. How did this happen and how 7 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: was no trace of evidence left behind? What happened to 8 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Jared joining us today? Jared's wife, the mother of his children. 9 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace, this is kind Stories. Thank you for 10 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nation. In series XM 11 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: one eleven. Why did this young man early thirties, prime 12 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: of his life, good looking, athletic, brilliant educated, this huge, 13 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: big life in front of him with his wife and children, 14 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: shouldren from another marriage that he saw religiously. Why would 15 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: somebody want to gun him down literally in the road 16 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: as part of an ambush attack? Who we know just 17 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the right place to put an old tire in the 18 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: middle of the road, a place where he couldn't go 19 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: that way, And he couldn't go that way. He had 20 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: to get out of the car on this one way street. 21 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: He had to get out and move the tire in 22 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: order to get home to his wife and children, and 23 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: when he did, someone was lying in wait to kill 24 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: him execution style. Why who? Why is it not solved yet? 25 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: First of all, let's take a listen to our friends 26 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: at WJ A X and this you'll hear it sound 27 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: from his ex wife, with whom he is in a 28 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: bitter custody battle. At the time of his murder. Just 29 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: minutes after leaving Shanna's house, just over two miles from 30 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: her home, in a quiet neighborhood with few security cameras, 31 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: attire was rolled out into the street. Jared got out 32 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: of his car to move it and was shot dead. 33 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: His two year old daughter sat in the car, strapped 34 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: into her car seat alone for three minutes before someone 35 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: came to help. I was shocked. I felt at the 36 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: floor because I was devastated for what I was going 37 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: to have to tell my kids. Jared died in that street, 38 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: leaving behind four children and a heartbroken family. They were 39 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: I think in shock. Join me right now, special guest, 40 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: this is Jared's wife, Kirsten Brdigan. You have two year 41 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: old Bexley and at the time six month old London. 42 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Bexley was actually strapped in the car while her dad 43 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: was shot, and she keeps saying I believe boom boom 44 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: or bang bang. Yeah, she often says boom boom, boom, 45 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: daddy on the ground when she talks about that night. 46 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, we were just hearing your husband's 47 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: ex wife who was crying about the death of her ex. 48 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Now that evening, let me understand, Jared had just left 49 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: her house right brag. She had just dropped Boom and 50 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Addie back off at her home. His twins. Yeah, nine 51 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: years old at the time. Yes, was that, may I 52 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: ask you, Kirsten. Was that a scheduled visit? Yes? So, 53 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Jared and Shanna had fifty fifty custody of Liam and Abbey, 54 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: so every other week they were with the alternating parents. 55 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: So when they were with their mom, Jared would pick 56 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: them up every Wednesday that she had them to take 57 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: them out on what was referred to as date nights, 58 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: and then when they were at our home for the week, 59 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Shannon would come to our house and pick them up 60 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Wednesday nights before date night. And it was every single week, 61 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: So you would have them when you're home for a week, 62 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and then they go back to their mom. Can I 63 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: back Chack just a little bit, Kurston, could you tell 64 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: me how you and Jared met? Yeah, so I had 65 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: moved out to Charlotte, North Carolina to start working for 66 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: Microsoft and News SI Area. A friend it's like, hey, 67 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: should you know, just get on this dating app and 68 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a good way to meet people. So I did, 69 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: and Jared's profile was one of the first ones that 70 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: I saw. And what impressed me about him is that 71 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: his first picture with him and Leam and Abbey. He 72 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: was proud to be a dad. He's proud of his kids, 73 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: and he made it clear like these people are important 74 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: to me and it's a package deal. Anyway, we started 75 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: talking and we talked on the phone for hours, and 76 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: then he actually drove six and a half hours from 77 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: Florida up to Charlotte to take me on a date. 78 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: And the rest is history. Okay, wait a minute, he drove. 79 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: He just gave me chill bumps down my right arm. 80 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: He drove six and a half hours from Florida to 81 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte to take you on a date. He did. Yeah, 82 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: that must have been some day. What did you do 83 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: on the day? Everything? But we fit in as much 84 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: as we could. We often referred to it as a 85 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: marathon date because we met at a museum, winner on 86 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: the museum for a few hours, and we went out 87 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: and got some food and we went bowling, and then 88 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: we tried to an escape or like we did everything. 89 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: We just couldn't get enough time together, especially since you know, 90 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: it was a long distance relationships, so we made the 91 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: most of the time that we opposendgether. You know, something 92 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: you just said really sticks out of my mind. We 93 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: just couldn't get enough time together. Yeah, when did you 94 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: know that he was the one? I think it's when 95 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I met as kids. Just seeing him as a dad, 96 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, the way he treated me, I knew how 97 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: that wasn't it was amazing. But then to see him 98 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: as a father and how invested he was in them, 99 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: how much she loved them, that just kind of stealed 100 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: it from me. You know, Like I wanted to have children, 101 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a family, and I wanted someone 102 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: who wanted it just as much as I did. And 103 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: it was clear that that he shared those values and 104 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: those those desires. You know, as much as you might 105 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: love somebody if they don't want a family and you do, 106 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: or vice versa, that's a pretty good, pretty big obstacle 107 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: to overcome, and so you knew at the very beginning 108 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: he wanted a family and he loved his children. Yeah, 109 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: it was very clear. How long for the first time 110 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: you started dating until you guys got married. We started 111 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: dating January February of two thousand seventeen, and we got 112 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: married in October of that same year, so it was 113 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: pretty quick ten months about. Yeah. Now, at the time 114 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: you guys met, he was already divorced, right, Yeah, he's 115 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: been divorced for a couple of years at that point. Okay, 116 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: how was the relationship between him and his ex Shanna 117 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: Gardner Fernandez, Yeah, it was a very combative relationship. In 118 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: her interview, she refers to, you know, we had a 119 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: happy moments. I don't recall any happy moments between the 120 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: two households that that was not a thing. What was 121 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: there the I mean, I understand the drama, back and forth, 122 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: back and forth, wake on, wake off, and the scheduling. 123 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why he couldn't mist he couldn't move 124 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: to be with you in Charlotte because his children in Florida. 125 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen, Okay, down the rabbit hole? Have 126 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you ever seen parent trap? Yes? I have. Okay, have 127 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: you seen the remake? I don't think so. You know, 128 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: there's two. There's the old one with Hailey Meals and 129 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: then there's the new one with Lindsay Lohan. Oh, Linda, 130 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan. One to me is the original. I guess 131 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: you gotta look at the old one, just say you 132 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: can compare and contrast. But remember when he was about 133 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: to he was going to get married to the new woman. 134 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: She's such a brite, okay, And she said to him 135 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: about his children, Lindsay Lohan, it's either them or me, 136 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: and he paused for like two seconds, and he went them. 137 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: I picked them. I mean, I love my husband so much, 138 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: but there's really no question it's them. It's them, because 139 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: there's just some thing about a mom and her children. 140 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: It's it's them. So he was not He could not 141 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: leave his twins. So you end up moving down there, right, Yeah. 142 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: So I got permission to work remote, so I left 143 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the office and just worked from home so that we 144 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: could start our family together here in Florida. And you did, 145 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: because now you have Bexley and you have London. Correct. Yeah, 146 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:41,239 Speaker 1: there's two little girls. Time Stories with Nancy Grace Rebecca Rosenberg, 147 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: thank you for waiting because I know you are swamped. 148 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Rebecca Rosenberg is joining me from Fox News Digital. She's 149 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: a senior staff reporter with a New York Post. She's 150 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: an author of At Any Cost, and you can find 151 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: her at Rebecca Fay Rosenberg dot com. But Rebecca, I 152 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: just I don't know if you're like me, but to me, 153 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: every detail matters. What do you want to ask Kirsten? 154 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: I know you want to move up to the murder, 155 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: but I'm just fascinated. Can you imagine I'm back, how 156 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: long I would spend with victims and witnesses and their families. 157 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be an all night ordeal because 158 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: I have to go all the way to the back 159 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: to get to the beginning of the story, to get 160 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: to where we are right now. What do you want 161 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: to ask Kirsten, Well, I'd like to ask Kriston. Well, 162 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: I've been talking to Kristal a lot, so you know, 163 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: it's I guess, like, how are you feeling about the 164 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: pace of the investigation at this point? You know, do 165 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: you feel do you feel hopeful that they are getting 166 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: close to finding anything or finding any suspects in this 167 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: What is your feeling about that. I have a lot 168 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: of faith in the detectives that are working the case. 169 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: I do know that they're working hard. I know that 170 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: they're invested and they care about our families that very 171 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: strongly from them. Unfortunately, just the process of gathering evidence, 172 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: of waiting for DNA, of waiting for cell data, that 173 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: takes a lot of time, and I know they're equally 174 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: as frustrated with how long that takes as I am. 175 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: But I do believe they're they're doing their best, they're 176 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: working hard, and they haven't forgotten about Jared. And I 177 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: know your husband also recently had a birthday. His birthday 178 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: passed recently, which was mere Father's Day, and would you 179 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: be able to tell us a little bit about how 180 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: what that was like for you, kind of reaching that 181 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: milestone with Adam here. Yeah, honestly, the whole month of 182 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: June was it really hard because as you said, there 183 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: was Father's Day and then on the twenty ninth was 184 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Jared's birthday. So I had been thinking about ways that 185 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: we could think it special and honor him. And Jared 186 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: was always the guy that was helping a neighbor. I 187 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: can't even count the times he lent tools to people, 188 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 1: and when he lent the tools, he often doesn't go 189 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: to their house and show them how to use it 190 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: and then just get involved in their projects. So the 191 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: girls and I set out in months in June to 192 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: do access service in Jared's name. You know, he turned 193 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: thirty four or would have been thirty four, So we 194 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: did thirty four access service in honor of Jared, and 195 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: we invited the community to do the same. So there 196 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: was people all over the country doing access service in 197 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: honor of Jared. You know, that week was made a 198 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: little bit harder because the local news station decided to 199 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: interview with X Life, which in and of itself I 200 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: have no problem with. What upset me is that they 201 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: picked his birthday week to tise it for five days 202 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: and then air the day afters verse, like a week 203 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: that's already extremely hard. They decided to do that, and 204 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I let them know, Hey, don't do this to a 205 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: victims family in the future. This is not okay. That's 206 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: an extremely emotional of sensitive time. Do it any other week, 207 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: but not you know, an anniversary or a birthday. That's 208 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: just not appropriate. Now I'm hearing what you're saying, Kirsten 209 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Branigan with me. This is Jared's wife also with me, 210 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: Rebecca Rosenberg from Fox News Digital, Anne York Post, Jo 211 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, Jacksonville State University, forensics expert, doctor Angie Arnold, 212 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: psychiatrists out of Atlanta, and high profile lawyer out of Atlanta, 213 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen Kristen. You were talking about the terse exchanges, 214 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: the contentious relationship between your family Jared and his ex. 215 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: Didn't that seep into the children's life? Didn't they know 216 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: about the hostility and what was it over? They did? 217 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: You know? And that was something that Jared and I 218 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: we thought so hard to keep Leam and Abbey out 219 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: of things. There's so many text messages and emails where 220 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: we plead with his ex wife and her husband did 221 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: not involve the children, because often they would come home 222 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: saying mom and Mario said X. And we would be like, 223 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be involved in these conversations and would 224 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: again reach out to his ex wife and her husband 225 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: and ask them he don't involve the kids, like, let's 226 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: keep this between adults. They don't deserve to be pulled 227 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: into this. So it's heart leaching, you know, having a 228 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: split home like split family spending one week here and 229 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: one week there. It's hard enough. They don't need the 230 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: added stress of being involved in adult conversation. What was 231 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: the ongoing battle? I mean, did they X? What full 232 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: custody and why? I mean, the court records will speak 233 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: for themselves. It is very combative over a few of things. 234 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: You know, one week as this, the next month it's 235 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: something else. She took us to court often, as the 236 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: record will show. And one thing that just continually surprised 237 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: us and our attorney was the language that was used 238 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: in the motions filed. It was not professional. It had 239 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: outrageous claims such as the father doesn't care for his 240 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: childlizard eyes, which is absolutely false, and these are just 241 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: so skewed. It was just shocking that they would even 242 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: put that type of language in something, especially when it 243 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: was based on why absolutely nothing nays take a listen 244 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: to our friends at crime online dot com. Just twelve 245 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: days after Jared Bridigan was gunned down in front of 246 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: his two year old daughter, his widow received an email 247 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: from his ex wife asking for his death certificate. The 248 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: terst email sent to Kirsten Bridegain on February twenty eighth 249 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: by Shanna Gardner Fernandez said, quote, my attorney has requested 250 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: a copy of Jared's death certificate for the family court. 251 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: You can send it to me or to him and 252 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: his paralegal directly, whichever you prefer. The thirty one year 253 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: old widow said she was shocked by the email. I 254 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: was in my car, My hands were shaking, my heart 255 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: was beating so fast. I was like, who does this? 256 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: This is so evil. Here I am planning a funeral 257 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: and she's asking for a death certificate to Daryl Cohen 258 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: joining me, high profile lawyer that practices all over the country. 259 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: You can find him at Daryl Cohen dot TV. Daryl, 260 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,119 Speaker 1: can't you go to public records and get a death certificate? 261 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: Of course you can, Nancy, But that's not what this 262 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: was designed to do. This was designed to take the 263 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: dagger and drop it deeper and deeper and deeper, and 264 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: then twist it and then make sure you twist it 265 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: some more. That's what this is about. Nothing else, nothing more. 266 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: At this point, you know, Daryl Coh and I know 267 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: you're a high profile lawyer, but I was going to 268 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: you for a legal question about how you get a 269 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: death certificate. It's really easy you go to public records 270 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: and you have to pay about five dollars for the 271 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: xerox copy. But doctor Angela Arnold, although he is a 272 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: JD not an MD psychiatrist like you, he may be 273 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: right Doctor Angie, Oh, I think he's I think he's 274 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: right on Nancy. We can, all of us can look 275 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: at human behavior, and as this story unfolds, it's just 276 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: it's everything that this ex wife does, from from keeping 277 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: them in court while they you know, while he was alive, 278 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: now to this it's just it's so abusive. It's abusive 279 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: to the to the mother of the children, and his wife. 280 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's his widow, it's it's to me, it's horrific. 281 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: And I think that as human beings, we can all 282 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: see this, and I think that's why Darrel was speaking 283 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: to that. I just am trying to imagine Kristen Kirsten 284 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: right again, is with us, guys. This is Jared's widow 285 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: and the mother of two of his children. He was 286 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: not even married yet. And if she has a lawyer 287 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: who's directing her to get a death certificate, she could 288 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: just get one from county records. It's not hard. But 289 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: she called you while you were planning the funeral for 290 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: you to send her a death certificate. Yeah, and that's 291 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: that's why I was upset. But I a lot of 292 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: the time she wouldn't even talk to without her attorney. 293 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: She'd have her stay talked to my attorney, email my attorney. 294 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Yet she reaches out to me personally asked for a 295 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: death certificate that I don't even have copies of yet, 296 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Like I didn't have any at that point in time. 297 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: She already filed through her attorney two days prior on 298 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: the I think it was the twenty faith off the 299 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: double check that date. Yeah, the twenty fits. She already 300 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: filed the suggestion of death with family courts, that was 301 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: already done. And in addition to that email a few 302 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: minutes prior, email me asking me to return library book. 303 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as a matter of fact, take a listen 304 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: to again our friends at crime online dot com. Eight 305 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: minutes before sending an email message requesting the death certificate 306 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: of Jared Bradigan, his ex wife, Shanna Gardner Fernandez sent 307 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: another email to Kirsht and Brine again. This email asked 308 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: the grieving widow to return a set of school library 309 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: books that were borrowed by the twins. Shanna wrote, quote, 310 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: you can drop them off at any public library and 311 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: they will return them to Miss Stacy or return them 312 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: to the school directly. Un Christian Bright again said that 313 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: after losing her husband in such a brutal way and 314 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: only twelve days earlier, returning a couple of library books 315 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: wasn't on her list of priorities at the time. Okay, 316 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: let me understand, because, Kirsten, when my fiance was murdered, 317 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I dropped out of school. I couldn't eat, didn't eat, 318 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: stopped everything. I couldn't even think straight. And I don't 319 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: know how long really haven't counted up the months that 320 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: I was like that. But I didn't have children that 321 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: I had to be strong for at that time. You do, 322 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: so let me understand this. While you're planning the funeral, 323 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: you get an email from the X about returning library books. Yeah, 324 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: and to me, that was just her pouring salt in 325 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: the wound. She didn't care how I was failing. She 326 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: didn't seem to care about anything except sending those emails 327 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: to me. Have you had contact with her since the murder? Yes, 328 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I have. There's been text messages. I've even seen her 329 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: in person the following day or two after, and multiple 330 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: text messages since then regarding the majority of them are 331 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: me requesting the FaceTime with William and Abbey, most of 332 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: which have gone either ignored or the response has been no. 333 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Since April, Kristen, what happened in your world the night 334 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: that Jared was murdyred? You were at home with the children? 335 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: What exactly? So? Our youngest daughter London had started going 336 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: to bed, you know, order doing sleep training, and she 337 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: would go to bed, you know, before seven pm. So 338 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't on date night with Jared and kids, but 339 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: Becksley always went with him. She was always there. And 340 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: so he had called me right after he dropped him 341 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: an Abbey off at their mom's house and just said 342 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: we had a good date night. Beckfully said that they 343 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: got ice cream and she was still eating it, and 344 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: then you know, she said, okay, I love You'll see 345 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: you soon. And then time kept going and I started 346 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: to feel on eavy. I kept looking at the clock, thinking, 347 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: as you should be home by now, He's always home 348 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: by now. Something's not right. And my parents were our 349 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: home and I remember telling them like I know something's wrong, 350 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Like something is not okay. I kept calling and calling. 351 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: I texted, and it's not like him to pick not 352 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: pick up, especially if he's in the car, like he's 353 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: not doing something else, he's just driving. He would answer 354 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: his phone. I started looking at traffic reports to see 355 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: if there was an accident or anything, and wasn't see anything. 356 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: So I got in the car. I took my mom 357 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: with me and my dad stayed at home with London, 358 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: and started driving out to the beach where I knew 359 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: he had been last you know, he had just dropped 360 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: with him an abby off at the last point I 361 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: knew he was, so I started driving that way and 362 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: while I was driving, I kept calling his phone, and 363 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: after you know, four or five tries, it picked up. 364 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: So it wasn't jeared. It was a police officer who 365 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: just kept telling me and coming to the station as 366 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: I kept asking if my husband okay, my husband okay, 367 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: and he said, please come to the Jacksonville Beach Police Department. 368 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: Your daughter's fine, But he would not answer me about 369 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 1: my husband, and that just confirmed me Jared was not okay. 370 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: My mom was trying to call me down. She said, 371 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: nabs an accident. You know, we don't know what happened, 372 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: but I knew. I knew when I gut that Jared 373 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: wasn't okay. And when we got there, I saw Bexley 374 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: and then it clicks. I'm like, if this was a 375 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: car accident, Bexley would be taken to the hospital to 376 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: get checked out. Like this is not a car accident, 377 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: because why is she here at the station? And then 378 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: it was a long night. I had wait a while 379 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: until they confirmed that Jared had been killed, talk to detectives. 380 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: I had to call itge family that night. So it was, 381 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, like my whole world just came crashing down. 382 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: And I never remember the Saint Kirsten who told you 383 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: that Jared had been killed? A detective informed me. You know, 384 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: at first, when I was sitting in the break room 385 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: at the police station with my daughter, my mom, a 386 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: female officer, I kept asking, like what happened? Can I 387 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: see him? You know, I didn't know for sure if 388 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: he had died. I didn't know any details that. They 389 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: just told me it's a death investigation, and I said, 390 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: is it him or someone else? They wouldn't answer. They 391 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: asked me to what my husband looked like. So then 392 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: after a while I was taken into another room away 393 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: from my daughter and my mom and informed that Jared 394 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: hasn't shot. Jessica Morgan is joining me, not just professor forensic's, 395 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: an author and hosts, but a death investigator, you know, 396 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Joe Scott. Hearing Kirsten describe that night, it just makes 397 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: my chest hurt, imagining her in the car and not 398 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: being able to find Jared and wonder where's Beckley where? 399 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: And then they say Becksey's all right? And then why 400 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: do I have to go to the police station? And 401 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: nobody will tell her? And the mad rush to get 402 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: to the police station, and then getting there and nobody 403 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: will tell her. But yet she knows, she knows, but 404 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to know. I have dealt with so 405 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: many crime victims and they know. I don't know how 406 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: they know. I don't know how I knew, but I knew. 407 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: How often have you encountered that, Joe Scott? Very often? 408 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: And you know, when people's hearts are knwed together in 409 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: love like that, I think that that you have a 410 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: you have a sense about you of what's happening with 411 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: the other person, and it's an overwhelming I've seen it 412 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: played out in you know, in my world as a 413 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: death investigator, over and over and over again, and it 414 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: does happen. And it's quite striking, you know, because it 415 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: there's that sense of dread. You know that that this 416 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: horrible thing, this news, even though it hasn't officially been 417 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: delivered to you, Um, you know that it's it's it's 418 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: there because you know you're running through all of these 419 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: scenarios as as a victim of what had happened, what 420 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: had happened, and suddenly you know you're worsening fruition right 421 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: for your eyes. Kirsten, did you go back to the scene, 422 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: Did you go back and see where you're husband was ambushed? No? 423 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: In fact, when I left the police station, and I 424 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: was there several days in a row, I had to 425 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: go another way. I couldn't. I couldn't go there. I didn't. 426 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: I didn't know if there would still be blood on 427 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 1: the street. I didn't. I didn't want to go there. Um. 428 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't until a few weeks after that I went 429 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: back with a friend because I had printed a big 430 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: sign of the truck asking for people to call in 431 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: if they knew and thing, and I put it on 432 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: that street. And that was the first time I was back, 433 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: and I to this day, avoid that road. Can I 434 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: tell you something, I've never gone to the scene where 435 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: my fiance was murder and I don't want to. I 436 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: don't want to see it. I heart's enough as it is. 437 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to go back and see that and 438 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: have that in my mind too. So I completely understand. 439 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: And for me it was just my own pain. You're 440 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: having to feel the pain and your children too. Rebecca 441 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Rosenberg joining us from Fox News Digital and New York Post. 442 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: Rebecca described to me the scene and what we believe 443 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: happened the night Jared was ambushed and murdered. Okay, so um, 444 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: he had just dropped his children off at his ex 445 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: wife and he was maybe five to ten minutes from 446 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: her home, but probably closer to five minutes, and he 447 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: had Bexley in the car, and he was he just 448 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: entered this wooded stretch of Sanctuary Sanctuary Way Boulevard that 449 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: even though there's homes on the other side of the woods, 450 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: you really can't see the car or see the houses 451 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: from where he was. He encountered a tire in the road. 452 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: In order to continue down that road, he had to 453 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: get out of the car to move the tire. When 454 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: he stepped out of the car, he was shot, peated 455 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Lee in front of his in front of Bexley, and 456 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: the assailant fled and just three minutes later a good 457 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: samaritan pulled up and got Baxley out of the car 458 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: and the police were called. But there's no surveillance footage. 459 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: There was I believe they ring doorbell that captured the 460 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: sounds of the shot, so they know exactly when he 461 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: was killed. But there's no surveillance footage of the actual crime. 462 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: And there is a an F one fifty truck that 463 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: was captured I guess near there, and the police are 464 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: calling it a vehicle of interest in the crime. I'm 465 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: very curious. Take a listen to our cut twenty four 466 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: our friends at w j A x SO. I asked 467 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: Shanna at the question did you have anything to do 468 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: with Jared's murder? No, I did not have anything to 469 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: do with his murder. Shannah says she has no idea 470 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: if the murder was targeted or what Jared was involved in, 471 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: saying they ran in different circles. But actually News Jack's 472 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: reported in June Shannah had hired criminal defense attorney Hank Cox. 473 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: He was referred to me by several friends and ultimately 474 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: my kids images and videos were being used in the 475 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: media without consent. Shannah said Cox was hired to protect 476 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: her kids. I asked her if she thinks she will 477 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: face criminal charges. She says no, that she's cooperated with detectives. 478 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that Ford f one fifty take lest 479 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: to our cut to our friends at w j XT. 480 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Before his death, Ryan against twins from a previous marriage, 481 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: had just been dropped off and he was taking a 482 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: routine round home. Actually talked to him on the phone 483 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: right after he dropped his twins off, and he just 484 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: told me that they had had a good day. A 485 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: home security camera picked up gunshots that rang out around 486 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: the same time that Bryan again was murdered. Right Agan's 487 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: two year old daughter was in the car when her 488 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: father was murdered, and she told her mother this, so 489 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: she'll say, you know, boom, boom, boom, and then she'll 490 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: say daddy on the ground. So far, no arrests have 491 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: been made. A possible clue, a blue F one fifty 492 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: pickup truck is caught on a nearby surveillance camera. With 493 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: each passing day, a reward of five thousand dollars end 494 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: of twenty five thousand dollars is being offered for information 495 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: leading to the arrest of the murderer or murderers. Bright 496 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: Again's family waits for closure, wondering who killed this father, husband, son, 497 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: and friend. You know what I'm thinking, specifically, Jessica Morgan, 498 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Professor forensics, Jackson State University and author of the Molly 499 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: Tibots case and then the Kendra Hatcher case, both of 500 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: them murders, both of them solved after a distinctive marking 501 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: was saying on the purp's vehicle. Molly Tipbots was raped 502 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: and murdered as she was jogging. Kendrew was going into 503 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: her high rise parking deck when she was followed by 504 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: a vehicle that had a marking on the side of it, 505 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: much as in the Molly Tibbots case. Joe Scott, how 506 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: can we use the video of that four f one fifty. 507 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: It's you know, the images that I have seen, the 508 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: screen captures that I've seen have been grainy at best, 509 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: and I think that they're going to have to truly 510 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: be enhanced. However, However, this is the saving grace I 511 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: think from an evidentiary stand What's fascinating is the fact 512 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: that we've got this tire and it's not just a 513 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: tire with the wheel, and they're going to be identifiers 514 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: on this thing, Nancy, that are very specific to points 515 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: of origin relative to that tire. Could you please break 516 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: it down in regular talk, Where was the tire bought? 517 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: What kind of tire was it? Are there prints on it? 518 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Can we trace it back to a particular store, And 519 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: just looking at the image of the tire, there is 520 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: where on the tread you know it's been worn down. However, 521 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: each tire has a dot number that's assigned to it 522 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: that gives it, that gives it back to a specific 523 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: location or origin of that tire. Who when it was manufactured, 524 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: how long it's been around, and what distributor, what local distributor, 525 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: and then we start narrowing down neighborhoods and who may 526 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: have bought it and when. Then we start looking for 527 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: surveillance video if it even still exists based on the tread, 528 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: it may not still exist, but maybe it does. And 529 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: if you buy tires there once, I always get tires 530 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: at the same place. Always has there been a repeat 531 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: customer that gets that same tire, that same type that's 532 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, and not only that, but there's 533 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: a rim associated with this, Nancy, a rim the wheel 534 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: in the center that was also there as well. And 535 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: that's quite fascinating because that's got specific markings on it, 536 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: not only markings but tool markings, Nancy, because it didn't 537 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: have the nuts with it. It's been dropped off. If 538 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: you can tie that back and put that into the 539 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: hands potential perpetrated as powerful of them crime stories with 540 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, I want to go back to Jared's wife, 541 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: the mother of two of his children, joining us, Kirsten 542 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: Bright again, and as you have heard, this is not 543 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: easy for her to discuss, but she's doing it to 544 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: find justice. In fact, you can find her on insta 545 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: at Justice for Jared b at Justice for Jared b B. 546 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: As a brother christ and I want to talk about 547 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: if you can bring yourself to do it. There was 548 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: there any robbery, was anything taken from him? No, his wallet, stone, watched, 549 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: wedding ring, all of that was still at the scene, 550 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: so it did not appear anything was taken. It appears 551 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: that the main point was, or the only point was 552 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: to kill Jared and he was shot. Your husband after 553 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: that marathon day, after a whirlwind romance. You have children together, 554 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: and your husband was shot at point blank range. He 555 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: was shot three to four feet away. Yeah, and nothing 556 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: was stolen, The car wasn't stolen, nothing, nothing, I you know, 557 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: like what it's really hard to process. If not only 558 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: did they murderer my husband, a good man, an amazing father, 559 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: he did it in front of our daughters. And if 560 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: this was a set up, if this was planned, they 561 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: knew Bexley would be there because she's always with her 562 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: dad on date nights. Who knew who would know that 563 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: he was dropping the children off, his twins eighty nine 564 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: at the time. Who wouldn't know that he was dropping 565 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: Abbey and Liam off that night? You? Your family? Yeah, myself, 566 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: his ex wife and her husband, and then anyone that 567 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: was told by one of us three. How far is 568 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: the drive from your house to Abbey and Liam's home, 569 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: depending on traffic, thirty five to forty five minutes between 570 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: the two homes. Where was the crime scene as it 571 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: relates to Abbey and Lilliam's home and your home? Was 572 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: it closer to their home, closer to their mom's home. Yes, 573 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: so she only lives a few miles down the road 574 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: from where this happened. Jared dropped him off, and then 575 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: he took the route from her house to the on 576 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: lamp that we take every time, and it was, you know, 577 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: to get from her house to where he was shot, 578 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: you wind through neighborhoods, so there's cameras all along from 579 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: home until this one road is the only stretch from 580 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: her house to the highway that there are no cameras. 581 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: Was right there, right there where he was murdered. Where 582 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: was the Ford F one fifty coming from when it 583 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: was caught on video. I'm not sure where it was 584 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: coming from, but I know that one of the cameras 585 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: that picked it up was on the police station, which 586 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: is just around the corner from his ex wife home. Guys, 587 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut three our friends at 588 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: w j XT. This is the first time that detectives 589 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: are telling us that they believe this murder was a 590 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: targeted one. They believe that someone intentionally set out to 591 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: kill this father of four. Detectives obviously very passionate about 592 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: solving this case. I've been speaking with them every day 593 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: and they say that they are going to leave no 594 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: stone unturned. This as the family and the community are 595 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: really upset and concerned about this. We just found this. 596 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: It is a cross that says justice for Jared, showing 597 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: how many people are concerned about this. And just moments 598 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: ago we learned that a reward has been increased to 599 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars for information leading to an arrest. An 600 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: eight thousand dollar reward. Dial nine zero four two seven 601 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: zero sixteen sixty one if you have or think you 602 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: have information, or eight sixty six eight four five eight 603 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: four seven seven eight thousand dollar reward. I also want 604 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: you to hear our cut four our friends at wj EXT. 605 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: This is pretty much where the scene was. Detective Sergeant 606 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: to David Young tells us this is where drivers found 607 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: a thirty three year old at Jared Bride Again shot 608 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: to death next to his SUV, which was also struck 609 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: inside the man's two year old daughter. He says, it's 610 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: a miracle that she wasn't hurt. Anytime there's a child involved, worse, 611 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, the child could have been hit. Yeah, it 612 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: gets to you, it does. It gets to you. Bright 613 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: again had his SUV's emergency flashersig and this spare tire 614 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: was in the road, which is why police believe his 615 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: killers set him up. There was a reason there was 616 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: a tire in the middle of the road, so we 617 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: think that and that asked me. We think he was targeted. 618 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: We believe that the shooter was was less than four 619 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: feet three feet from him. That's cold blooded. Yes, yeah, 620 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: so especially with a two year old in car. So 621 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: this person wanted him dead. Yes, was anything stolen? We 622 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: don't think this is a robbery. Two. Rebecca Rosenberg joining 623 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: us in Fox News Digital. Is it true that on 624 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: one occasion, at least one the deceased data Four Jared 625 00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: Brydakin claims at his ex Shann Gardner, had you a 626 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: tracking device on his car and put a voice activated 627 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: recorder in his home. Yes, but it's true during their divorce, 628 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: when they were both living in the same home, but 629 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: sort of on opposite parts of the house, she had 630 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: put baby mart He allected that she put baby monitors 631 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: under One was under one of the children's beds. That 632 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: didn't need to be there. There was already a monitor 633 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: in the room. There was no reason for it to 634 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: be hidden in this strange location in addition to what 635 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: was already there. And and she'd also put some sort 636 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: of tracking device on his car, and I just want 637 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: to go back a little bit and mention one thing 638 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: that I find kind of troubling is um you know, 639 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: Chris and her family, they've raised like sixty five thousand 640 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: dollars in reward money to help, you know, find any 641 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: information that will lead to this the killer. And even 642 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: though Shena her family, she comes from a very wealthy family. 643 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: Her parents have a company that has that earns over 644 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars a year in revenue, they haven't 645 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: contributed a penny to this reward fund. To Christian Bryan again, 646 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: do you believe Jared was targeted? I do. Let me 647 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: point out to everyone that the ex wife has not 648 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: been named a suspect, our person of interest, a target 649 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: in any way. Kristen, what can you tell me about 650 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: the reward for information regarding your husband's death? Currently, it's 651 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: a total of fifty five thousand dollars through crime Stoppers, 652 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: where you can remain anonymous. It's fifty thousand dollars for 653 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: a tip leading to an arrest, and then there's an 654 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: additional five thousand dollars for a tip leading to an 655 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: arrest and conviction through the Bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and 656 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: fire arms. So it had started out is three thousand dollars, 657 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: and then myself and my brother in law raised money 658 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 1: to get it up to fifty fifty five thousand dollars. 659 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 1: So the reward is now fifty five thousand dollars. Kirsten, 660 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: do you believe this was a professional hit? And if so, 661 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: why I do? The fact that they knew where to 662 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: stop Jared where there would not be cameras, where he 663 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: could not just go around the tire. And anyone that 664 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: knows Jared knows that he's a good guy, like he 665 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: would stop and move the tire so that someone else 666 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: didn't have to you know, someone else wouldn't have to 667 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: get their car there's raining and move the tire. They 668 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: knew him, they knew his route, they knew his character, 669 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: and they planned this and they murdered him in front 670 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: of our daughters. Again, if you have information, please dial 671 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: nine zero four seven zero sixteen sixty one or eight 672 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: sixty six eight four to five tips eight sixty six 673 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: eight four five eight four seven seven. Kirsten, how do 674 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: you explain to your children that Daddy isn't there? Once 675 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: you got the Harst part, you know one who's too 676 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: little to even know her dad, So we'll have that 677 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: conversation when she hold hers But Bexley did. Bexley was 678 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: Jared Shadow. She loved him so much. Just why she 679 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: was always with them. And some days she seems to understand. 680 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about Dad's in heaven. Gad's body 681 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: got hurt. For a while. She she would pull out 682 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: her little play doctor kitt and Sam and go fix 683 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: my dad. Oh, we had to talk about Beddy's body 684 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: didn't get better. That's a really gone. But we'll see 685 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: him when we're at cheven And some days she seems 686 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: to grasp that. But then other days, like this past week, 687 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: they made dinner and it was, you know, a smaller portion, 688 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: and she said, why didn't we meet more? He says, 689 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: just those three didn't She asked, when Daddy comes back 690 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: to me, make some more. So her understanding and her 691 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: grasp of what's happened kind of goes in and out, 692 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: and it's a conversation we have over and over again, 693 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: and it's heart Regie Kris, and I'm so sorry, just 694 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for what you're going through, what your 695 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: family is going through. And the only thing we can 696 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: do for you now. Is trying to help you and 697 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: your children get justice, if there even is such a thing. 698 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,