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Speaker 1: of the all above make some fucking and right now
Speaker 1: when it comes to the leader of the new school,
Speaker 1: people who are leading their own agenda. When I came out,
Speaker 1: it was dope to not sound like anybody else, to
Speaker 1: be original, and I think that art has been lost
Speaker 1: in the past ten years or so. But when I'm
Speaker 1: spaking about the artist that's hair right now. Every time
Speaker 1: I hear him on the record, whether it be with
Speaker 1: somebody's spin, whether it be his own record, whether it
Speaker 1: be his own video. It's always original ship. He does
Speaker 1: not sound like no one else. He does not remind
Speaker 1: me of no one else. He's original. He's a real artist,
Speaker 1: a real spinder, and one of the best personalities and
Speaker 1: hip hop hands down. People always ask me if I
Speaker 1: who get in the podcast game would you be nervous of?
Speaker 1: And I always say the same three names. I say Cameron,
Speaker 1: I say Trick Dad, and I say the brother that's
Speaker 1: here to the left of me. If he gets in podcasts,
Speaker 1: I'll be nervous. In Casey, I don't know if people
Speaker 1: off for you to do a podcast every goddamn day
Speaker 1: because his personality is that dope. When Casey, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell I'm talking about. We're talking about
Speaker 1: d motherfucker fish stables like you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what's bugged out. I had to do a study
Speaker 1: on you, so I went and I look. And the
Speaker 1: craziest thing is if I wouldn't compare any artists to
Speaker 1: a comedian, the first comedian I would compare you Tuesday Chappelle.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's funny because that's the honey. Yeah, that ain't
Speaker 1: never making a lot of sames. I don't heard that before.
Speaker 1: You heard that before? Okay, so do you have a
Speaker 1: relationship with yah Rock with Dave? Dave give me some
Speaker 1: good advice? Worked together on something already now, just like
Speaker 1: you know, he lives out in the bunny, so I'd
Speaker 1: have been out there a couple of times, you feel me,
Speaker 1: because I'm facing the same thing. I'm really be working
Speaker 1: around like so not just interesting because you know. The
Speaker 1: funny thing about Dave is like they have a comedian,
Speaker 1: but they don't really tell jokes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He did with the Truth Commentary, man, but he had
Speaker 1: always been like that when we were younger, right, and uh,
Speaker 1: I'm only seven, so like what's your pel showing? Like
Speaker 1: that came out? That was the only thing I really know.
Speaker 1: But she was like, my daddy has like like my
Speaker 1: pops before he went down to stuff, he had like
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphys. And She's like, but I ain't think it
Speaker 1: was funny like that because I was too young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's like now down that it was hilarious
Speaker 1: looking back when I was younger. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: I'll get that a couple of times, definitely. So let
Speaker 1: me ask you. I'm buncing around a little bit um.
Speaker 1: You originally started on a major on depth jam. Right,
Speaker 1: what made you say that? You know what depth jam?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and do my own fans, We'll see
Speaker 1: what's right. So you already know how that type of
Speaker 1: ship work. Yeah, I know it's for the fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Like so it's just universal. You feel
Speaker 1: yourself like I'm on there, I was on death Cham
Speaker 1: for a long time. Uh, it just didn't make sense.
Speaker 1: You feel me in a And it's not that it
Speaker 1: didn't make sense because I was sucking up, but they
Speaker 1: was sucked up. It's just everybody want different things, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now we got the little
Speaker 1: situation via motown. But it's like it's you feel me.
Speaker 1: So it's like when you think about the idea of
Speaker 1: a record company. They basically they give you the loan
Speaker 1: and they front the distribution to make your CDs and
Speaker 1: basically talked you triple with it, but you don't et
Speaker 1: there are no fucking CDs nothing, And then we still
Speaker 1: kind of get tricked a little bit because like we
Speaker 1: still kind of falling for the same tricks. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like a vanity playing the sense like oh man,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. Like it's something like nigga like Tyler, Right,
Speaker 1: the honey just saw the hundred fifty thousand albums, right,
Speaker 1: He didn't sell a hundred fee thou abums. He sold
Speaker 1: billions of straight millions. Because they're not going to tell
Speaker 1: these niggas, oh man, you had millions of billions of
Speaker 1: people listening to you in three days. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: say that, because then you're gonna be like, damn if
Speaker 1: I'm able to do that, but I don't need them,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. Like, and essentially, when we
Speaker 1: think about press in general, like you got y'all, you
Speaker 1: got you got Gilly and Wallow, you got the Joe,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of people that's taken out because when
Speaker 1: I was younger, for me, they would the press will
Speaker 1: be like, oh man, tell us about the streets and
Speaker 1: being a nigger, and it's like what y'all talking about.
Speaker 1: So at this point in time, like just the whole
Speaker 1: ship is changing. But I think it's you know, in
Speaker 1: artists their own press now because social media allows you
Speaker 1: to do your own press. Yeah, but it's like essentially
Speaker 1: it's this ship is like the magazines and she's like
Speaker 1: that turning the pictures like pressure this pictures like you
Speaker 1: can post the pictures and then oh you put oh
Speaker 1: I was in g QUE and this advantity place people
Speaker 1: feel like you're popping because you was in g Q
Speaker 1: New York time. Y'all that you can post the same
Speaker 1: pictures without that tagging. It's not gonna give people that
Speaker 1: kind of a it's all the vanity playing on me.
Speaker 1: Gotta it's smart. But what death cham was? You want
Speaker 1: Steve Bartle's I was on Steve Bartos. Cameron Quaker was
Speaker 1: there Steve when Phasal was there, and and Paul I
Speaker 1: was there from Paul because they're from Tony twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: to like two years ago. Well, I would think that
Speaker 1: Paul Wilsenberg, being your lyrical content, would be a person
Speaker 1: that had you back. I don't know if he didn't know. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not even about having a back, it's it's like
Speaker 1: it's out of the label's hands in a sense, because
Speaker 1: if I'm a fan, right and I digest it in
Speaker 1: a certain manner, and the way that things changed so fast,
Speaker 1: you can't possibly expect the label to be able to
Speaker 1: move with all that infrastructure, the way that things after moon.
Speaker 1: So it's not like they're not trying, like they're doing
Speaker 1: what you for you what they do for everybody. Like
Speaker 1: it's not like artists is going to and being like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I want this press for all with this,
Speaker 1: they're putting everybody on Jimmy family. But they're trying, but
Speaker 1: it's like something just don't add up for the kind
Speaker 1: of artists you are. You kind of got to be
Speaker 1: more creative nowadays, because it's not to the point of
Speaker 1: where you know, you gotta poster in the CD and
Speaker 1: they don't know about you and just gotta go from there.
Speaker 1: So it ain't like they were trying. But it's like
Speaker 1: ship it is what it is to a certain extent. Now,
Speaker 1: I've read somewhere that you said people that were ax
Speaker 1: body spreading old spice or racist. Yeah, that's dusty, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's like, that's like the white worlds they
Speaker 1: was given man up. That's where the white boys that
Speaker 1: lived by the beach four chance nineth chance don't get
Speaker 1: caught over there either, don't. So for a long time
Speaker 1: I really didn't understand Long Beach because I'm never tell
Speaker 1: you why we went introduced to n w a right,
Speaker 1: get straight out of Compton, and our mind Compton is
Speaker 1: Calie and you're from Compton originally, right, My and my
Speaker 1: parents are Compton, and I'll be like three minutes away. Okay.
Speaker 1: You can walk like you can go to Jordan High School.
Speaker 1: You can walk across like a bridge and then you're
Speaker 1: con finished like you can be when you're looking out
Speaker 1: of the compting right there. It's not there for us.
Speaker 1: So when we're looking at it, all right, but ended
Speaker 1: up every way says straight out of Compent. We thought
Speaker 1: that they saying straight out of California, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: it went over our heads, like we didn't really know that.
Speaker 1: So for years, whenever a person say I'm from l
Speaker 1: A or off from California, we're meediately said Compton. I
Speaker 1: was similarized it to how the person was from New York.
Speaker 1: At the time, they were always affiliated to Brooklyn. Brooklyn
Speaker 1: was like the broad is, so how is it being
Speaker 1: from adjacent neighborhood from one of the most populoust place
Speaker 1: in hip hop like Compton for a long time was
Speaker 1: like shirt Kings like this a place called short Kings
Speaker 1: and College and people just wanted to go there and
Speaker 1: take a picture like people just wanted to go to Compton.
Speaker 1: It was like the illest s and I know a
Speaker 1: couple of times I went to Compton, people like it
Speaker 1: was easy house and he was lying to be like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, you know what I mean, Like, but how
Speaker 1: is it growing up from adjacent neighborhood like that. I
Speaker 1: think at the point in the time, I was just wait.
Speaker 1: After that, Long Beach was already on the map, but
Speaker 1: more Snow was snow Snow the biggest rapper there every everywhere,
Speaker 1: so it's like it wasn't really no thing. I feel like,
Speaker 1: like Long Beach one of the last cities in l
Speaker 1: A County. It's like Long be Sampedro that kind of
Speaker 1: like little areas like the Harvard areas, like kind of
Speaker 1: to the bad Park then Long Beaches right before Orange
Speaker 1: County basically Okay, so it's like we're kind of far away.
Speaker 1: Were in l A technically, but we fowty fifty minutes away,
Speaker 1: so we didn't I ain't never really go that l slad.
Speaker 1: We didn't get along with them. It's like still to
Speaker 1: this day, it's like you know, some sort of weird
Speaker 1: time I heard you say when you were growing I'm
Speaker 1: not growing up, but when you were getting into the
Speaker 1: music business, you wouldn't even tell people you weren't from Left.
Speaker 1: Now that if you're telling you from Long and they
Speaker 1: don't think you grind me and like weird, like why
Speaker 1: why could hear you say? But it's like it's funny,
Speaker 1: like so like school Boy killing them, Like when I
Speaker 1: went on tour school Boy, every single person that tour
Speaker 1: like you from Long's like, yeah, man, it's weird out there.
Speaker 1: Everybody said that, But it's just because you know, people
Speaker 1: got hired minds, like you said, a competent thing, right,
Speaker 1: Like you know how DJ Quick and n w A
Speaker 1: and Comte most wanted the King and all these dudes
Speaker 1: comp different games, but they had, yeah, some of them
Speaker 1: things not really from competent, but that's when it comes there.
Speaker 1: But you got a lot of a lot of dudes,
Speaker 1: like it was a marketing thing, like say you new
Speaker 1: Compton like ice cube, not from company from l A.
Speaker 1: But it made sense if we you of course, but
Speaker 1: it's like from he from A from l A sou
Speaker 1: it's like from like a hunting So it's like when
Speaker 1: you think about built up, it's like it's comfortable. We
Speaker 1: have Black Hunting Street from probably like around there, like
Speaker 1: hard spool Ship because heat. It wouldn't have made sense
Speaker 1: to say straight out of all these different places, so
Speaker 1: he just had to pick on the Compton had a
Speaker 1: reputation at that point in time. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: how these things work. So when you look at just
Speaker 1: just for musical contraction, if you've got all these dudes
Speaker 1: looking like you know, DJ Quick or Easy or blah blah,
Speaker 1: and then you got Snoop Dogg, who don't look nothing
Speaker 1: like these other dudes. He got on like a hockey
Speaker 1: jersey and its first video type ship. It's been like
Speaker 1: that forever and it's still like that. So if like
Speaker 1: you see any like when I was your girls, like
Speaker 1: jerking was the thing, and people's dancing and skateboard and ship,
Speaker 1: so you gotta nig it like with blond hair and
Speaker 1: like eyebrow erring and like he shoot at you and
Speaker 1: you from Content gonna be like, who is this nigga?
Speaker 1: And it was that kind of thing going on. So
Speaker 1: Nick from Content in other places when I really kind
Speaker 1: of a closer from l A, when I was meeting music,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, yeah, man, it's weird out there. Just
Speaker 1: because you couldn't really gauge who was tooled by the
Speaker 1: way people look. Another thing about Long Beach, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no red, Like I went to Long Beach a
Speaker 1: couple of times and I didn't see red at this time.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cities like that though. It's just
Speaker 1: as I mean, it's a lot of seas I really got. No,
Speaker 1: that's all bloods, like the cities like all Mexicans, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it really just depend on
Speaker 1: how you look at it. Like Womantin is all bloods
Speaker 1: and Mexicans. Long Beaches all Chrystian Mexicans. It's not really
Speaker 1: no bloods and Guardina except for like theF they claimed confidents.
Speaker 1: So yes, it's a couple of cities that ain't really
Speaker 1: got no wow. This this this is like a whole
Speaker 1: different world because you know, but like again, like you know,
Speaker 1: being naive and just having w A n w A
Speaker 1: was literally my GPS so and then moving on to
Speaker 1: uh what was it, dre and I just thought it
Speaker 1: was all one things, even Long Beach. I thought Long
Speaker 1: Beach from you for you because originally from l A.
Speaker 1: So yourself just say I didn't think it's remember, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you had experience the South gaily Like I always
Speaker 1: thought Compton was a jail, Like when they said straight up,
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to go to that
Speaker 1: jail because we had right because the island at the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking this is their their record to match
Speaker 1: Cougi rap. I had no idea like and so like
Speaker 1: to me, to me, California is just a whole different planet.
Speaker 1: Like I remember when we were like, you know, wearing
Speaker 1: win breakers and and break the sad. It was like
Speaker 1: they was just khakis and that was that your experience.
Speaker 1: I knew. It's a little I mean, when you think
Speaker 1: about music, you know that that's that kind of speaks
Speaker 1: to the power of music because the visual thing, right,
Speaker 1: everybody knows these other places because of rap music. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it's the most descript music genre as far as the
Speaker 1: explanations of the times and places and the statics and
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Right. So when you think about California,
Speaker 1: when I was younger, just I thought the Bay was
Speaker 1: you know, all together, and then you realized I didn't
Speaker 1: know he thought he was wasn't from Oakland till I
Speaker 1: was grown from Okay. Okay, okay, but it's like, I
Speaker 1: know what, I don't know what none of that was.
Speaker 1: I know that between Berkeley and Oakland and things that
Speaker 1: New York dude, it's all the same to us and
Speaker 1: as far as Hill. But to a person that's from California,
Speaker 1: you're saying you're from Balleo and being the Bay Area
Speaker 1: that you have to be particularly, you have to be
Speaker 1: per sip. You can't be yeah, because it's it's a lot,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of I mean, it's like that everywhere.
Speaker 1: But the thing about California is that California so big,
Speaker 1: essential big. You can't do you know, you can drive
Speaker 1: the Philly, you ain't driving nowhere but Vegas. Maybe as
Speaker 1: far as being something, but it was a big thing
Speaker 1: with um exhibit Maxim was claiming California or something and
Speaker 1: was like he from New Mexico and it was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Like and to me, I thought New
Speaker 1: Mexico was a part You're like, I was like, what's
Speaker 1: the problem apart? I mean I thought that the white
Speaker 1: people everything. You know, I ain't partner to what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So being from Long Beach, right being, I didn't remember
Speaker 1: me and you was on Twitter, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you got mad at me? Yeah, I said from little
Speaker 1: fat here, don't like snoop. But then you you school
Speaker 1: me though you scooed me. He was like, yo, growing up,
Speaker 1: I couldn't even um know you gotta we gotta stop
Speaker 1: real quick this this Nike got mad at me because
Speaker 1: I was seven years I was listening a little bit.
Speaker 1: What I agree with you love kid in play, all that,
Speaker 1: all that happy ship like stopping man. But let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something. You're correct, and let me just
Speaker 1: say happy now he's correct. Let me take you something.
Speaker 1: I think that initiale argument was you said that this
Speaker 1: error was better than the two thousand's, was better than
Speaker 1: the nineties because you let the white people white people.
Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna tell what. Okay, okay, because because
Speaker 1: you said Kanye right, we had a we had a
Speaker 1: it was a South forn It's Time magazine. We gotta
Speaker 1: put in the context that Time magazine don't give a
Speaker 1: funk about no black people or no rap music unless
Speaker 1: you like Obama or some ship. So they was talking
Speaker 1: about pop culture, and they was talking about the height
Speaker 1: of pop culture and hip hop music and pop culture.
Speaker 1: So the show for the matter is it's no way
Speaker 1: possible possible that at a point in time that when
Speaker 1: we got hip hop music and niggas was suing that
Speaker 1: for day and all this other type of ships. At
Speaker 1: the point that Travis Scott got a New York collaboration,
Speaker 1: black people's headlining the biggest festivals in the world and
Speaker 1: black people that no normal ship. He's saying, No, that's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying, like from from from context. When you
Speaker 1: think about the two thousands, they're like, it was just
Speaker 1: more opportunity and more money. When we think about what
Speaker 1: Jay was able to do with fifty singer was able
Speaker 1: to do, what they're still able to do, it just
Speaker 1: these things wasn't possible because the kind of the phase
Speaker 1: in which hip hop was in it it's more established
Speaker 1: down in the world before as they should be. But
Speaker 1: that got thrown is oh, then he's not the goal.
Speaker 1: And they're like, you really think, like, and that's what
Speaker 1: we got to stop falling for that ship because because
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about press like Time Magazine is not
Speaker 1: talking about the fucking bars. They're talking about how much
Speaker 1: money you've got to influence on the ship. And and
Speaker 1: for for not for lack of a better term. They're
Speaker 1: going to use the clickbait. They're gonna use debate that
Speaker 1: that's gonna will everybody in. But ahead, would you expect
Speaker 1: every generation to expect your golden rors their golden arrow
Speaker 1: and you know what? You know? What was what was ill?
Speaker 1: What he said at that time when he described Wow.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is I couldn't identify with that
Speaker 1: because I was already a grown man as he was
Speaker 1: this hard throughout, for he was always a little bout
Speaker 1: out up. He was always a little bout but he's
Speaker 1: not no more. He big bible. He sold your boy
Speaker 1: with that. Man, I love that man. Would you do
Speaker 1: a person's him? No, I ain't got no. I ain't.
Speaker 1: You gotta have bangers for versus, I ain't got no.
Speaker 1: It's like that from the verse. I got two plaques?
Speaker 1: I think I got too? How many plagues I got?
Speaker 1: I got three flaques? Ain't nothing a versions? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: kind of kind of heard you say that before, like
Speaker 1: down playing your own catalog. But I don't want you
Speaker 1: to do that. Man, what stimond downplaying? It's like you
Speaker 1: gotta read the room. You feel me like it's like
Speaker 1: you feel like you know, you know kind of kind
Speaker 1: of your lane. You get what I'm saying, versus just
Speaker 1: for adverse and start with timbling and switch Beast got
Speaker 1: fucking ghost facing Ray Kwan and fucking fabulous and Jada
Speaker 1: kissing Soldier Boy. I ain't wanted them niggas, so I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna try to step up in their bag. The
Speaker 1: niggas got like generational hits like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna get man. Look, let's see you in
Speaker 1: Tyler Man. I'm just being honest. Hunting fifty, I make
Speaker 1: nigga wraps that ain't that ain't happening. Tyler doing good though, Tyler,
Speaker 1: Yeah he got um number one number. Pick up the
Speaker 1: Tyler Man. Big up the Tyler Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out my son. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It
Speaker 1: seems um. You know, I don't want to save me
Speaker 1: and him at the descripancy. It's a little misunderstanding for me.
Speaker 1: Following you and following and seeing your relationship. I start
Speaker 1: to think that I know him now through you, because
Speaker 1: how y'all, Like I see y'all with the radio interview
Speaker 1: together up. I said, hey, y'all on records together, Um,
Speaker 1: how did you develop that relationship. I mean, Tyler never
Speaker 1: got along hate that, but that's the honey now is
Speaker 1: just um yeah, I mean it's like this right because
Speaker 1: that was coming up together in the same so okay,
Speaker 1: my way different something like I said, So Long Beach
Speaker 1: far from l A. Right, So I was cool with
Speaker 1: Sid who was a DJ at the time. She was
Speaker 1: group out the internet now and uh yeah, I would
Speaker 1: kick it with her mind. When I first met him,
Speaker 1: I went with a honey house from Long Beach, but
Speaker 1: he wanted to make it I was pretending he was
Speaker 1: from l A because the daddy worked out there, you know,
Speaker 1: because he's trying to be a rapper and ship like that.
Speaker 1: So he went over there once night. I never seen
Speaker 1: no black people with the house that big. The house
Speaker 1: was like crazy to Tyler house, Nah seeing them. So
Speaker 1: it's like she had the studio and ship like that
Speaker 1: and that's where everything was. They were just there. Now,
Speaker 1: I got kind of cool for a little bit, but
Speaker 1: like we wasn't really cool. So he got out his
Speaker 1: little situation when when uh, I was working with him
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I ain't never really talked to
Speaker 1: Tyler because I'm I'm more calm than them. You feel me.
Speaker 1: So they was like, and I'm younger so before they
Speaker 1: really pop off, but like I was a little bit younger,
Speaker 1: so like I was, I'm different than I am now.
Speaker 1: When I was young, obviously, I was like kind of
Speaker 1: more burned out, so I was kind of I didn't
Speaker 1: really understand a lot of stuff, but I always respect
Speaker 1: that their music and what they created. And the one
Speaker 1: that we went on tour, this thing was like, hey man,
Speaker 1: why we don't talk and I don't know you nigga,
Speaker 1: but he didn't understand, but like we know where I
Speaker 1: come from, don't know and they but not like howder
Speaker 1: that gave me a lot of advice, see to help
Speaker 1: me a lot of ships. Like he really really smart
Speaker 1: with the way that he handled his stuff and everything
Speaker 1: is calculated, like he plans out every single thing. He do,
Speaker 1: nothing eating. I feel like this nigga planning out his sentences,
Speaker 1: like probably got a rint down somewhere. He different. And
Speaker 1: one thing about the book for y'all that it was
Speaker 1: at one point, um everyone was wearing I'm not a
Speaker 1: rapper shirt right, and for the most part, a lot
Speaker 1: of motherfuckers wasn't a rapper up, but they were having
Speaker 1: this truck, jury done all that, so they wanted to
Speaker 1: make a distinction, like I got I get money somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I feel like when you guys said it feels like
Speaker 1: you say I'm not a rapper, or it feels like
Speaker 1: because when people say you're a rapper, it might nutes
Speaker 1: the situation. So this thing was holler right. I don't
Speaker 1: think with me, it's kind of different because if I
Speaker 1: ever like downplay something I'm doing, it's not to shun it.
Speaker 1: It's in comparison to other people. You feel me like,
Speaker 1: if Pharrell is a musician and he knows all these
Speaker 1: instruments and all these songs, I can't beat no musician
Speaker 1: if I'm not on the same level of education. The
Speaker 1: time that you put in as another nigga, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you can't tell you know a
Speaker 1: nigger one bag of weed and being like you're hustling.
Speaker 1: That's just not what it is. So wait, I feel
Speaker 1: like with Tyler's Tyler and a lot of people just
Speaker 1: are generationally, they just do a lot more than that.
Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of times when you're gonna
Speaker 1: see these rooms, it's like, oh, you might be the
Speaker 1: rapper or you might be this, it might be. It's
Speaker 1: just like, so say you get a deal with a
Speaker 1: company like say a sneaker, your clothing company, and you're
Speaker 1: a rapper at you young dude. It's different if you
Speaker 1: get an artist. Your artists are gonna put you on
Speaker 1: the billboard to make you a fee. You don't give
Speaker 1: your feed to show you to you your name and likeness, right,
Speaker 1: but if they look at you as more than that, essentially,
Speaker 1: they might be like, Okay, come design this product or
Speaker 1: come consult with this product. So it's not I don't
Speaker 1: think people say it in the sense of trying to
Speaker 1: diminish wrapping itself. It's just like, don't put me, I'm
Speaker 1: just help. Yeah, that you're trying to treat niggas like
Speaker 1: to help, you know what I'm saying. And that's just
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work nowadays with all these opportunities you
Speaker 1: see all these things that's going on with like these
Speaker 1: know all this fashion stuff and this technology and know
Speaker 1: something ship like we're able to really make Hayway now
Speaker 1: that we probably come make before. And now you have
Speaker 1: the g Q photo shoot. What's my man name? I
Speaker 1: forgot his name? The Indian dude, Uh, simonage, is that
Speaker 1: is that like the proper way to call? You know
Speaker 1: nowadays you gotta be if he's an Indian heritage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just know you're listening. If I say anything. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like I don't know what you said,
Speaker 1: call them Asian whatever, but I see that we don't
Speaker 1: we should you can't do So how is how is
Speaker 1: g Ku even calling you? Like? How does that feel
Speaker 1: for you? Like, honestly, I don't have no idea why
Speaker 1: the Niggers keep callingble no idea because it's like a
Speaker 1: second photos, a third I've done a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Ship Oh drink Chat's happens, it happens. I'll be on Hella. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've being Hella fucking merchandise ship just uh no press ship.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know they already be calling to be pressed.
Speaker 1: But I don't get it. But I mean I'm appreciative
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I'm saying because the totally
Speaker 1: different clients tell exactly exactly, and it's like I'm not
Speaker 1: that kind of dude, like I'm picking up no magazine
Speaker 1: to be like looking for the next tips on how
Speaker 1: to do something whatever. Ship, But what happens. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: this is awkward. She's looking for a drink from last night.
Speaker 1: She got real let's make it look let me tell yourself,
Speaker 1: that's the most shame I've ever had, Like when you
Speaker 1: leave your not just your credit card, your credit card
Speaker 1: because you know the next day you're like, yo, how
Speaker 1: bent was I to? Like, you know, just forget all this?
Speaker 1: Now that's really getting a faded. Oh yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: Today we honor and you know we look. You know
Speaker 1: you never smoked or drink. Your whole life makes some noise.
Speaker 1: But I'm not even I'm not even to tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. I'm not even making noise for you, not
Speaker 1: ever indulging. I'm making noise for you being as strong
Speaker 1: as you can be around. I could imagine growing up
Speaker 1: around the gang bangers around you know, even other rappers.
Speaker 1: Wrappers get higher than gang bangers at this point, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now these young niggas bro
Speaker 1: and it's crazy like Californias niggas is on black Day
Speaker 1: on Crystal Like what's black? I don't know what the heroine? Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're smoking black Like wait wait, yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: the other games. So nigg is in the county Jil
Speaker 1: right now are black and beat up, preperable like the
Speaker 1: pills and it's just it's sucked up right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so um, like you know most of my homeboys
Speaker 1: who never got high, like even even Fat Joe, um,
Speaker 1: you know except when you got in mind that one time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but um, but that's what my sake. I was sleek
Speaker 1: sneaking high. But most of my friends who didn't get high,
Speaker 1: um had like someone in their family that they saw
Speaker 1: get high. They saw overdose, so they saw and and
Speaker 1: they like even fat je Fat Joel had this horrible
Speaker 1: story about him seeing his family members get high. So
Speaker 1: every time we Fat Joe, I will understand. So I
Speaker 1: never pushed it on it. It's that experience that you have,
Speaker 1: he my. I've seen my pops go from like being
Speaker 1: up and like being a man and having all the
Speaker 1: cars and all the money and all the other stuff.
Speaker 1: You know we're supposed to care about to like me
Speaker 1: and whoop, they're not like just not being it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. See the hommy leaves, the people leave.
Speaker 1: I it's just not cold, you feel me like, and
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily getting highest self, But like I never
Speaker 1: want to not know if I was sucked up for me,
Speaker 1: I never not want to know. You don't you don't
Speaker 1: want to be the motherfucker who up and then you know,
Speaker 1: you hit that point and then everything go away. I
Speaker 1: couldn't really let that happen to myself. And also you
Speaker 1: just gotta pay attention, like you know, I mean the
Speaker 1: Long Beach, everything is in such club proximity, and we
Speaker 1: got such you know, we got a real bad racial conflict.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to be It's real bad like
Speaker 1: Mexican Mexican. So it's like you ain't want to be
Speaker 1: you know, slipping at a certain point of time, especially
Speaker 1: when I was going up like early two thousand, like
Speaker 1: the white tierre was like niggas called it. There was
Speaker 1: a lot going on, so I ain't never want to
Speaker 1: get caught. Like my sister got shot like seven eight
Speaker 1: times when I was when I was a kid, just
Speaker 1: you know, be at the casino. You know, I'm getting drunk,
Speaker 1: having a good time, and you got aired out, so
Speaker 1: it's you ain't really safe nowhere. So just that and
Speaker 1: my pops this little shit, I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta pixis or something like that. So um, but let
Speaker 1: me ask you, so, like, you know, just hanging around
Speaker 1: the environment, how did you develop that strongness? Because that
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people that's gonna watch his
Speaker 1: interview and say, wow, that's dope. You know, Vince ain't
Speaker 1: never you know, but it couldn't have been easy. Like
Speaker 1: I'm sure the people the hot box with you, the
Speaker 1: windows up in the car and everyone smoked. I felt
Speaker 1: like I feel like it was easy only because now
Speaker 1: I'm be myn only to be smoking around me, like
Speaker 1: I don't really bother me like that. I feel like
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to have you know, decent family,
Speaker 1: and I got real humbies, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I got the same homey since forever, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not wanted them random weird niggas who like wake up
Speaker 1: one day and started claiming the hood and giving to
Speaker 1: get some money all the other bush they put you
Speaker 1: on it, Like, but I've been around for such a
Speaker 1: long time. That's just like my homies ain't never encouraged
Speaker 1: me to do nothing that wasn't so like if these niggas,
Speaker 1: if we didn't been through like you know, real life
Speaker 1: situation with like real implications and they ain't doing it,
Speaker 1: then you niggas, can't you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: can't knows can't try it. You feel me like because
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, even when a bad influence is
Speaker 1: essentially a good influence as well. And my mom and
Speaker 1: my pops, they didn't raise us to be like you
Speaker 1: know when my pops around, you know, because it were
Speaker 1: like one thing I tell me all time, Like you know,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of conversation about my fatherhood and
Speaker 1: black man and like that. But it ain't like once
Speaker 1: he naund go down that road, it ain't like they
Speaker 1: can come home, you know what I'm saying, Like they
Speaker 1: can say right, I learned my lesson. Let me go
Speaker 1: home now. So you know, you know when he was
Speaker 1: around with my mom was in around. They just raised us,
Speaker 1: so you don't be on our own ship. Like I
Speaker 1: know a dude listen and you know I spoke were drink,
Speaker 1: but I know a dude who did it one time?
Speaker 1: He um did what one time? Oh? He uh? We
Speaker 1: were all spoken, but the buds guy ran out of
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to tell us. We didn't want
Speaker 1: to tell him. We that we just bought all the bud.
Speaker 1: She was like, OK, give U up. He gave one
Speaker 1: to him, put it in the bud, And I don't
Speaker 1: want to say his name. Is he funked up to
Speaker 1: this day? You know what I'm saying. But it's literally
Speaker 1: like what happens if he just didn't want to get high,
Speaker 1: Like he might have not been as bugged out as
Speaker 1: he is he seeing anybody, but like, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, this is twenty five years ago,
Speaker 1: but he didn't know he was smoking pieces no, because
Speaker 1: back then that's how they would get it off. They
Speaker 1: would be like, like, that's smoking dirty. How I got
Speaker 1: my pops. That's how I got my popures hanging with
Speaker 1: the ho you strung out, that's how that happing? Wow
Speaker 1: wow man, that's crazy. So so one things that I
Speaker 1: also noticed about about you just so honorable that when
Speaker 1: a person does a record with you, you don't even
Speaker 1: use their name. What's that about it? I'll defend the
Speaker 1: lame bro, Like, so you do it on purpose? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Play there's no no features because I don't know I'm
Speaker 1: having features. But yeah, but it's like it's like, like
Speaker 1: what's on the game? Is there is there an advantage?
Speaker 1: Of doing that too. The music. I'm thinking I'm high.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm making a mistake. I'm like, why is
Speaker 1: Future on this? He sounds like Kendrick. She's like, it's
Speaker 1: like the title of the song, right, the title of
Speaker 1: the songs, the title of the song. The title went
Speaker 1: the song blah blah blah, featuring and using the homie.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So it's like they on
Speaker 1: the song day on the song. I don't like how
Speaker 1: to look on the track list, and I feel like
Speaker 1: you're trying to, you know, convince motherfucker's that you hard
Speaker 1: but you're definitely that Yeah, Wow, that's dope, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. It's but it's crazy, but that's just stupid,
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're supposed to use it to your advantage,
Speaker 1: but I just think that type of dude, you feel
Speaker 1: me like you you give me a verse whatever, So
Speaker 1: enough for me, I ain't really tried that ship is
Speaker 1: with another video. It's just not in the video. I
Speaker 1: don't know what video, but I never I do like
Speaker 1: probably one or two videos of project's expensive for no reason.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie it's not. I don't think videos expensive.
Speaker 1: I think that you're very, very creative, Like not I'm
Speaker 1: your videos. This is what I'm saying. A honey, thousands
Speaker 1: for some ship go on YouTube against my budget. No,
Speaker 1: you gotta get that back. I don't want to borrow that.
Speaker 1: You've got a good outlook, man, hunted. It's different videos
Speaker 1: for like MTV and viation Well, this year is for YouTube,
Speaker 1: and don't go nowhere else for YouTube. And if you
Speaker 1: don't get no views, you don't get no money. Come on,
Speaker 1: even if you do good some of you you got
Speaker 1: to split it with the on the video and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. The vivo. What's that ship? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: lot going on out here in these trades. Man ain't
Speaker 1: playing the games with them people. Ray j just text
Speaker 1: me you don't. You gotta rector with him and Chris Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the howny. That's not Chris Brown. That's not Chris
Speaker 1: Brown Brown. That's not goods bro, that's Ray j. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then the Gorillas, Oh ship you google's wrong? Brother? The
Speaker 1: band I don't know. Yeah you get oh yes, it's
Speaker 1: that the nigger from the Gorillas and uh and and
Speaker 1: ray Jack. But Ray Chris Brown, they got that, they
Speaker 1: got that that same kind of Uh. You know, so
Speaker 1: you got you a brodo your ray j is cooling money? Yes,
Speaker 1: yes he does. Oh you got a Rublekonje and the
Speaker 1: Gwagon both of them not stupid. You get a lot
Speaker 1: of money. And he gave me what you got my bike? Well,
Speaker 1: gave me a scooty bike. Okay, you know he he
Speaker 1: coming this week? This week I got him in trick
Speaker 1: Um but same time speak yeah, yeah, but speaking to Trick.
Speaker 1: You you what is your album? Trick Daddy thugs are us?
Speaker 1: I love Trick This is crazy coming man, tell me
Speaker 1: I had the TV like Nicky was digging through records
Speaker 1: at the record store. If you don't get your name
Speaker 1: mass out of here. Nig is born in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen a record store until I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Nig was on. I wouldn't be offended he when when
Speaker 1: I was in like the fifth grade, Julian iPod came
Speaker 1: out niggas and not digging through the crazy zoo remember
Speaker 1: the zoom don't remember? I remember that? Yeah, I'll stopped
Speaker 1: playing Niggas was not on the trick that he was
Speaker 1: on MTV jams every day brocking the truth. Well, because
Speaker 1: I was born in Compton right, no, no, no, a
Speaker 1: company ba growing up somewhere with no hospital. I'm happy
Speaker 1: my mom. And then movie that's grimy hospital only hospital comperience,
Speaker 1: damn near and Watson or you gotta go to St.
Speaker 1: Francis in Lynwood, but reckon hospital. But you spent time
Speaker 1: in Atlanta for a little while. I was in Atlanta
Speaker 1: for like six months, seven months? Okay, we did that
Speaker 1: help like you musically or getting music? Yet I didn't
Speaker 1: make music. So I came back. I was in Atlanta
Speaker 1: middle nine grade. I had some stupid ships, so I
Speaker 1: had to go go to Atlanta. Yeah. So when I
Speaker 1: came back home when everything was called posthetic whatever. But
Speaker 1: seeing them big booty girls, they had that long beach, right,
Speaker 1: the big booty girls. Then this is the thing about Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I was going to West Lake, so I was like
Speaker 1: I was at Lintics small you feeling what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was over to school with cam New Nigga was
Speaker 1: it was like, uh, I was just mad because there
Speaker 1: was a lot of ship going on. And like when
Speaker 1: I went to a land of one of my homies
Speaker 1: had died and it was like fifteen when he was fourteen,
Speaker 1: was fifteen, and it's like when you leave while something
Speaker 1: like that happening. Yeah, I just felt like a buster,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I felt like I could
Speaker 1: be doing something that you know, you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like my mind wasn't the wrong
Speaker 1: place the whole time I was there, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when I got back home, I was
Speaker 1: supposed to tell my dad I think he had a
Speaker 1: flash or something like he disappeared and I think he
Speaker 1: had a flash, to be honest. So my mom was
Speaker 1: like end up staying with me or whatever because she
Speaker 1: didn't want to go back there because I wasn't landing.
Speaker 1: The school system wasn't equivalent, so like I wasn't doing it,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't the was doing t a work. And
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit after Katrina, So it was
Speaker 1: a bunch of displaced people. Blah blah, they don't got
Speaker 1: enough little some bullshit, not enough room in the classes.
Speaker 1: So I was literally sitting office for like four or
Speaker 1: five periods. I came back to California and I noticed,
Speaker 1: like how nice it was, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because you're in Atlanta. Nice too, But it's a different
Speaker 1: kind of nice shots. You've got truck stops and what
Speaker 1: a burg not? What a burger wife whouse? And it's
Speaker 1: just desolate like out here, you know, we got it
Speaker 1: just ain't going alonge be specifically, Like I was kind
Speaker 1: of more appreciative and then I've just seen that and
Speaker 1: it's not the right way to be. Will I came
Speaker 1: back and like, I noticed that niggas wasn't like going
Speaker 1: as hard as I thought they should be going. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't gonna like die and then
Speaker 1: niggas like just go about the Yeah, I was even dying,
Speaker 1: just like niggas go about their days. And when I'm there,
Speaker 1: so I try to figure out some other ship. That's
Speaker 1: when the music should come from. It's anybody ever gonna
Speaker 1: tell a lamb that the waffle house is trash? It's
Speaker 1: not that good. It's not that good. I don't like
Speaker 1: I'm just being on the year secret. I mean keeping
Speaker 1: that ship feel like roaches, like I feel dirty. Ever
Speaker 1: you ever went to court and left court? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to take a shower with
Speaker 1: me and the county let's I'm sorry. The wife house
Speaker 1: is the county. Well, the County jail. Get you up.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, Atlanta, so sorry. Anybody in the South
Speaker 1: is gonna say this. Boy, I'm just being honest. For
Speaker 1: twenty five years I went had meetings at the waffle house.
Speaker 1: They got the little tile floor. Now, motherfuck the top
Speaker 1: of McDonald's. The McDonald's old McDonald's mopping there as soon
Speaker 1: as you take your shit out like that, that smells
Speaker 1: like hamburger, you know what I'm saying. And it's just
Speaker 1: it's just not a good seat. It's really literally what
Speaker 1: it's for the last middle of the night, like you know,
Speaker 1: after the club and all that. But I'll be seeing
Speaker 1: people wake up in the morning the waffle house like no,
Speaker 1: that's not a thing to do like like this. I
Speaker 1: know people will getting to go to the they go
Speaker 1: get fresh. They know somebody that worked there. Okay, the
Speaker 1: house is not that good. You do agree on that, Okay,
Speaker 1: South South guys looking like that. Man, we lost the
Speaker 1: waffle house. You're like, look, nobody look. And it went
Speaker 1: to a black college though he didn't HBCU. That's what
Speaker 1: they call. Okay, only want to go there, all right.
Speaker 1: I got bad notes. I got bad notes, man, I
Speaker 1: got bad you mess with mcmiller too, right, That told
Speaker 1: me man, Yeah, that was know he was a good thing. Um,
Speaker 1: I said, how that happened? But you know, did you
Speaker 1: see that coming? Yeah? He had not, not in passing,
Speaker 1: but like I haven't seen so much, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You know, you know you can tell when
Speaker 1: she's gonna left. But he was doing real good. But
Speaker 1: I feel like before he passed, you know, everybody knew
Speaker 1: he was struggling with ship, but before he passed, he
Speaker 1: was really doing really good. You know. It just he
Speaker 1: seen him in the gym and things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was doing really good. It is you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't always win, but he was doing good. I know.
Speaker 1: I still talked to his mom. I talked to it
Speaker 1: other day yesterday. I think, how'd y'all connect? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: really making music at that time. Girl had came back,
Speaker 1: and I was just you know, moving around him, making
Speaker 1: sure you know, he was straight and ship and uh.
Speaker 1: I introduced myself to him and he was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know who you are. Why don't you make beats?
Speaker 1: So that? Why don't you make music? And I sound
Speaker 1: got no beats and he I'm making some beasts come
Speaker 1: over here on Friday because he's living. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: saw him. That's how we ended up making music and
Speaker 1: being cool. And then he took me on tour and
Speaker 1: he didn't want to publish. He said, if you make
Speaker 1: a million dollars, buy me, uh S class bands or
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, the whole of product. He gave
Speaker 1: me the ownership of it. He just said, if you
Speaker 1: if you make a gang of money, just give me
Speaker 1: like an S class and then took me on the road,
Speaker 1: paid for my room and board and just and still
Speaker 1: paid me. So yeah, you know, that was the home needed.
Speaker 1: He didn't mope for me. And honestly, like as far
Speaker 1: in the time of my life when I needed it,
Speaker 1: because you got to think at that point out I
Speaker 1: already put like two music projects out. He knew it
Speaker 1: wasn't really I went fucking with us. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to you know, to to to
Speaker 1: what I know type ship. And my cousin had just
Speaker 1: got shot, he almost died, So that turned it all
Speaker 1: the way up, you know what I mean. My focus
Speaker 1: wasn't on music at all. I would just say that
Speaker 1: before like this was like your third hustle or something.
Speaker 1: Like that supposed to your main thing. I never did nothing.
Speaker 1: I never had no job when I was younger, I
Speaker 1: was I never got no bad guys. I used to
Speaker 1: be so good at music for this not to be.
Speaker 1: I every listen to music like growing up, only like
Speaker 1: in passing you know TV and like music videos and
Speaker 1: you're like, but I feel like music is music. Music
Speaker 1: not hard to do, especially like when I think at
Speaker 1: rapping music, right, I don't really I don't what's good?
Speaker 1: You feel me? Because there's so many different types of
Speaker 1: rap music you can be you know, treat that good
Speaker 1: and Bully good and Little fe Fiasco good and you
Speaker 1: feel me. It's so many different snoop a good, sneak
Speaker 1: is good. I love, you know, I like Bace ship.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's a about my colum, but it's
Speaker 1: like it's so many different kinds of good. I think
Speaker 1: in hip hop you just really need your story. And
Speaker 1: if you got a story, you know how to tell
Speaker 1: it right, you can be successful with this ship. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think I think it was you and Tyler conversation
Speaker 1: and he said, um, you know, being a rapper is
Speaker 1: so like like I'm paraphrasing obviously, but it's so like
Speaker 1: the lowest level of the totem pole. But uh, and
Speaker 1: I think you said even back in the days, you said,
Speaker 1: I think you said in the days, you know, it
Speaker 1: was the dance up, it was the DJ, and then
Speaker 1: it was the rap at the last it's the easiest
Speaker 1: entry point. It's easy. And I think that it's much
Speaker 1: just the easiest entry point. I think that's why hip
Speaker 1: hop is so important to people like impoverished communities, because
Speaker 1: to say, you gotta have a good boys, you gotta
Speaker 1: know how to hold a note, you gotta have a
Speaker 1: good memory. You don't gotta know you want to play instruments,
Speaker 1: you gotta practice and blah blah. To rap are you
Speaker 1: didn't have? You know, anybody can wake up one day
Speaker 1: and be like, oh I'm a rapper, and somebody can say,
Speaker 1: oh rap, And then you can do it if you
Speaker 1: just pick up say I play the guitar, and you
Speaker 1: try to pick that motherfucker be gonna miraish her. So
Speaker 1: so it's like the lowest entry point to being a
Speaker 1: creative in music, I feel, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: so many people embrace it, and that's why we've had
Speaker 1: so many great rappers over time, because it's something that
Speaker 1: you can literally pick up overnight and you don't need
Speaker 1: nothing to learn how to do it. You don't need
Speaker 1: no instruments, you'll need none of that. You can really
Speaker 1: sit inside your own head and you know, become good.
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's really important and why it's
Speaker 1: becoming the most dominant thing. That's crazy. That's crazy. You
Speaker 1: produce now. I can't do none of that. I can't
Speaker 1: turn on pro tools, you can't even turn it off.
Speaker 1: I can't do none of that. That's why you don't
Speaker 1: want to even learn. I'm cool. I mean my thing
Speaker 1: is like I can learn this squa, I can save
Speaker 1: a little bit of money, but like I might know
Speaker 1: somebody who like nice, and now they can pay their
Speaker 1: bills off off that budget and be my engineer. I
Speaker 1: ain't really greedy with it like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, if I know this nigga spend his
Speaker 1: whole life engineering, why am I gonna try to do
Speaker 1: it When it's somebody out there that you know that's
Speaker 1: nice that I can probably elevate what I'm doing. That's
Speaker 1: why they were trying to make beat And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's like thirty niggas that I know that make beat.
Speaker 1: Why do I need to be the thirty first nigg
Speaker 1: and make beats when they can just make the beat
Speaker 1: from me, you know what I'm saying, might as well
Speaker 1: to split it up. So what's beyond the rhyme? And
Speaker 1: then assuming that that's the entry point, like you said
Speaker 1: you want to do more, I was just saying as
Speaker 1: far as like he was based on me and Tyler conversations,
Speaker 1: the entry point meaning that if you want to make music,
Speaker 1: being being a rapper is a kind of the easiest
Speaker 1: thing to do, and you can just talk about yourself
Speaker 1: with people. Listen, you know what I mean to talk
Speaker 1: about what you know I'm saying. You know, if you
Speaker 1: know you're trying to be me, I'll say what you
Speaker 1: can't sing? You pretty wood? Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Anybody could be me what I'm saying beyond that point
Speaker 1: like as in music, music or other man. My thing
Speaker 1: is like like I was telling like saying earlier, I
Speaker 1: ain't never really want to do nothing, So I'm just appreciative,
Speaker 1: Like not that I didn't want to do nothing, just
Speaker 1: wasn't in my mind, Like I wasn't raised in no
Speaker 1: place where nigga's got dreams like if you're tall or
Speaker 1: you big, you can play basketball. Yeah, exactly, Ship like that.
Speaker 1: So it's like, um, I was cool with having a
Speaker 1: good job, you know what I mean, journ I remember
Speaker 1: I was trying to work here because I dropped out
Speaker 1: when I was fifteen, So I was trying to get
Speaker 1: ups jobs and warehouse and staff marked also the ship.
Speaker 1: I oulder how he was just televie, but then I'm
Speaker 1: a minor. I can't get no job with me. I
Speaker 1: feel like I just got so many opportunities for me
Speaker 1: based off with just who I am as a person,
Speaker 1: and some of these opportunities. To be honest, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's gonna do better than music. You know, if
Speaker 1: you think about no film TELEVI you talk about my videos.
Speaker 1: If you can make a video triput, you can make
Speaker 1: a show, you can make it on the make a
Speaker 1: series exactly, like I don't know, some good things like
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler and I can tell I was sorry to
Speaker 1: cut you up. I can tell your videos just your ideas,
Speaker 1: because it's not like these directors go out and make
Speaker 1: these these type of videos without you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, I peeped that. Here's the
Speaker 1: craziest thing, right, Um. I looked at uh Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: I think on on Instagram live or something, and he
Speaker 1: said that what a lot of people didn't notice was
Speaker 1: Pun didn't have a lot of records for artists because
Speaker 1: artists didn't want to get on a record with Pun
Speaker 1: because they always looked at it like Punt to burn
Speaker 1: them down or something like that. One of those things
Speaker 1: that I've noticed with you is you got like a
Speaker 1: head to head record with Roys the five nine and
Speaker 1: worse the five nine similar serves as that purpose too
Speaker 1: is a lot of people, you know, they want to
Speaker 1: be cool Roys, they don't want to get on the
Speaker 1: record with them. So what made you? Because I knew
Speaker 1: I was kind of the best version. I just and
Speaker 1: I did had the best version. They need to be
Speaker 1: playing favorites. It ain't even close. Okay, Coo, I met
Speaker 1: Cricket Eye, Cricket Atronome, I've seen them somewhere. So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I think Cody was supposed to be on the court.
Speaker 1: They can be on it, which I made it real quick.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy I was on it. You feel me
Speaker 1: like you know you don't get them opportunities every day.
Speaker 1: So I love that we've got noise. I love it
Speaker 1: so so Um, but is there like a sense of
Speaker 1: nervousness because you're in uh I don't want to say
Speaker 1: that in that world, but um, you're part of people
Speaker 1: consider real lyricism. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then when you get the chance to work with a
Speaker 1: cord Day, I don't know. I always placed his name
Speaker 1: Corday eminem or a voice? Does it? Does it? Does
Speaker 1: it bring what? Does it bring a sense of competition
Speaker 1: out of you? Or do you even consider yourself a
Speaker 1: lyricis because it sounds like you might not even know
Speaker 1: your lyricis. I mean it's like it depends, like it
Speaker 1: all depends on how you you and you feel me
Speaker 1: because like I said, I listen to a lot of ships,
Speaker 1: so like I think he fought the lyricius When I
Speaker 1: say that at me, like I'm crazy, it's just kid,
Speaker 1: you don't know what somebody talking about. Don't mean they're
Speaker 1: now hard. So I mean with me, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate, but that's how I got music from no
Speaker 1: fucking as far as on the bigger scale or just
Speaker 1: in general world evidence in DJ Babou was making beast
Speaker 1: for me when I was younger, nobody gave the ship
Speaker 1: and you know, ill mind and I don't forget nobody
Speaker 1: kill her. It was the gang motherfucker's give me ships.
Speaker 1: Scoop the veal into nor and D and comment like
Speaker 1: I'm in the first person that put me on the song.
Speaker 1: I got to be easier work as a comment you
Speaker 1: feel me. I don't know where it's had, but I
Speaker 1: got it. So like like that, like I appreciate the
Speaker 1: to be listening to your music to these last couple
Speaker 1: of days. I couldn't help with like talk like you,
Speaker 1: I couldn't help, but like I couldn't help because because
Speaker 1: you know, you have re influence if you listen to
Speaker 1: you like, is it ever the time? Like you know,
Speaker 1: like I have sometimes that white people coming to me
Speaker 1: like you know what something my nigga, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I am not chilly what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but what you know, you know that they're influenced. You
Speaker 1: know they didn't they don't mean it, but but I
Speaker 1: still I'm offended one And it's like, do you ever
Speaker 1: feel like maybe I'm giving too much in the in
Speaker 1: the records or or yeah, I used to I used
Speaker 1: to feel like that. It's funny now. I had a
Speaker 1: point of time with music, right, So I had my
Speaker 1: first album come out, and I'm like, all right, cool, um,
Speaker 1: I got a lot, you know, shoot off my chest,
Speaker 1: blah blah have you. But at that point in time,
Speaker 1: I ain't really had that. It was still cracking Insentially,
Speaker 1: I wasn't like one bear with my sister and my
Speaker 1: mama in the middle of like some whole other ship
Speaker 1: that was going on, and I was like, you feel me.
Speaker 1: It was like, man, your album is out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's like my story. Yeah, it didn't matter. So
Speaker 1: it's like at this point in time, it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: all I got from that first album is nigga is
Speaker 1: doing my face, like the nigga is matter. Nigga's always
Speaker 1: been my voice. Nigg is always do my voice, and
Speaker 1: nigga's kind of will see if the nigga that sound
Speaker 1: like that had a gas nigga everything, that's me at
Speaker 1: it because I I used to be out like that.
Speaker 1: I don't sunk with other niggas, Like if you wanted
Speaker 1: my homies, you don't. But I don't know a gang
Speaker 1: of people from a gang of the neighborhoods, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not that stupid. That's how you get killed. I was
Speaker 1: that wrong in My mom always said Mario man To
Speaker 1: stated your cell type ship, which goes against what hip
Speaker 1: hop is. So when sometimes I say this came out,
Speaker 1: I was doing good blah blah, I want to good
Speaker 1: trajectory no idea and death Yam. They have a conflict
Speaker 1: of of kind of ideas. No I d kind of
Speaker 1: leave death jam. So at that point in time, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out. I don't really know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. And then I was doing shows just
Speaker 1: in the meantime, and I realized, like it felt weird,
Speaker 1: like man, I'm out here in this different country and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, and all I got to do.
Speaker 1: All I can tell Nigga is is that you know
Speaker 1: our gang bang you feel me like music. But that's
Speaker 1: all I had seen in my life, so I don't
Speaker 1: know how to read articulate much. So um, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm never doing this again. Like even with
Speaker 1: the Big Fisterio, I'm like, I made the album so
Speaker 1: it could get sinks for movies, so I had God
Speaker 1: made it with that in mind. Yeah, every single and
Speaker 1: almost I think like probably eight you know songs got six.
Speaker 1: So the reason I made it because we had got
Speaker 1: an offer to do. Um was it? It was the
Speaker 1: Was it the army or was it FIFA? What was first? FIFA? Right?
Speaker 1: What call of duty gave me? Offer? How much was it?
Speaker 1: Like you, I'm trying to see if it is the
Speaker 1: right story because which one was hired was a call
Speaker 1: of duty or FIFA? But that FIFA was higher? Right?
Speaker 1: All right? So call it basically call of duty gave me.
Speaker 1: But that call of duty, call it what call of
Speaker 1: duty gave me to do one song that they didn't
Speaker 1: even use as more than my whole album budget. Okay,
Speaker 1: but lets let let's be let's be let's be um
Speaker 1: precise if you can, but you do you get published
Speaker 1: in off of that or this is a buyoutum now
Speaker 1: you okay, call of duty license notice, but some people
Speaker 1: you can do about it. But they they knew music,
Speaker 1: So I still got paid an they didn't use it.
Speaker 1: I got a FIFA thing, they didn't use it. Okay.
Speaker 1: I got a FIFA thing for Champions League, and that
Speaker 1: was crazy and then I was like, all right, feva
Speaker 1: money different, that's soccer. I was like, this makes sense.
Speaker 1: So the years later, I don't even a boris knew
Speaker 1: that in the room. So when when Call of Duty
Speaker 1: didn't use it, um, the U S. Army picked it up.
Speaker 1: The Army picked it up. I got paid for it again,
Speaker 1: they didn't use it. Then after the Army didn't use it,
Speaker 1: Spider Man Movie use it. So this is all the meantime.
Speaker 1: I'm making this album and I'm torning. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: so if I can get tense songs, every one of
Speaker 1: these songs, can you get singed? Then I don't need
Speaker 1: nothing else, you feel me. So then I made this
Speaker 1: song called back Back. I made it for Baywatch. They
Speaker 1: put in the Baywatch trailer and I noticed that, like,
Speaker 1: k exactly, so what's it called? Um, don't see it
Speaker 1: there exactly when you came you came to seat, So
Speaker 1: what's McCall it? What's the name name? Damn? What's her name? Um?
Speaker 1: Fuck no? So I make I make back back right
Speaker 1: and we go the ohay is director and like it
Speaker 1: was a you know, the music director kept putting my
Speaker 1: ship in a certain ship. So I was I noticed,
Speaker 1: like what songs kept getting singing, Blue sage kept getting
Speaker 1: sink and someone nor singing. I noticed like it was
Speaker 1: like they was going for the most abrupt sounds to
Speaker 1: kind of separate the scenes. So then I started making
Speaker 1: music with that in mind. So back back guy Um,
Speaker 1: I got back back in Baywatch, Black Panther, and like
Speaker 1: one other thing, and then a lot of the other
Speaker 1: songs was getting scence. So basically I was that changed
Speaker 1: my whole life, and then that changed the torn because
Speaker 1: now I could play. It was the point of time
Speaker 1: when I was playing festivals, no rappers on the stage
Speaker 1: but me and Golden. It was the only rappers on
Speaker 1: the on the build unless you play hip hop festival
Speaker 1: like Splash or something to be like Prime and be
Speaker 1: headline or some ship like that, like some cool ship
Speaker 1: like that. But other than that, if it was no
Speaker 1: real hip hop festival, it'd be two rappers on the
Speaker 1: whole festival, be Me and Golden, something like Damn Old
Speaker 1: who gold Link for Sea. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: if it's fifty festivals this year, and I know for
Speaker 1: a fact I can play every single one of them
Speaker 1: because they're not even gonna want to play in them crowds.
Speaker 1: Then I'm just I was just counting the money. So
Speaker 1: I had like a two or three year span where
Speaker 1: I wasn't even wrapping about the games. I don't even
Speaker 1: cursing really was, So I really wasn't because I was
Speaker 1: thinking about these shows. I wasn't saying the again ship
Speaker 1: like that. And then like you know, something happened in
Speaker 1: life and I was like, man that I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: kind of more. I'm just gonna do what I do.
Speaker 1: But I cleaned up. But it's like it was really
Speaker 1: worth it to me because it's like it was wasted years. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know, chasing the money, blowing up, the way that
Speaker 1: you approached making the music for the certain opportunities. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's when Bad, That's when Bad and Boogie was out.
Speaker 1: So it's like, all right, you gotta think about how
Speaker 1: many they help was doing all kind of alien movies,
Speaker 1: all kind of superhero movies. Marvel was popping, so they
Speaker 1: can't play these songs essentially when they playing in these
Speaker 1: in these movies. So what I would do is I
Speaker 1: would look at kind of scores. I was watching like
Speaker 1: Blade Runner, I was watching Certain Ship, and I was
Speaker 1: seeing what that kind of music sound like, and I
Speaker 1: was looking at how international things worked. They was putting
Speaker 1: a lot of playing a lot of older you know,
Speaker 1: old UK music and ship like that, and I've kind
Speaker 1: of just figured out looked at we looked at what
Speaker 1: movies was coming out, and we just made songs that
Speaker 1: would fitting certain things. And it makes sense if you
Speaker 1: listen to the catalog, at least when I was listening recently,
Speaker 1: each song sounds different. Now it makes sense why, Like
Speaker 1: you're thinking in yeah, this is for this, this for
Speaker 1: this is for this. I didn't have a two old
Speaker 1: projects certain shows for action movie starting shows for their
Speaker 1: startin shows for that. We were doing that and to
Speaker 1: this day and we just got another one for this
Speaker 1: other movie. So I mean it worked. But essentially it's
Speaker 1: like I had some lives and hommies passing, like some
Speaker 1: family members passing ship, and like it just kind of
Speaker 1: re reassessed like the way I looked at like because
Speaker 1: like you know, you get older, you gotta realize what
Speaker 1: matter you feel me And I think I got to
Speaker 1: the points where I kind of had a better understanding
Speaker 1: that recently. Does does it ever? Does the fans ever
Speaker 1: get on your case, because if you're making the music
Speaker 1: for these opportunities, then you're not necessarily making it anymore
Speaker 1: for the fans. I mean, but who are the fans?
Speaker 1: Feel the fan the fans like I'm asking, like, really,
Speaker 1: who are the fans? And fans are based on your
Speaker 1: point of view. So if you if you're making this
Speaker 1: and this is working here and look this way, the
Speaker 1: needs are the fans. If you look at way it
Speaker 1: needs a fans, it's only gonna be somebody to like
Speaker 1: some ship, so you can't pay attention. And the way
Speaker 1: I looked at it was like, man, it's I hadn't
Speaker 1: done so much worse ship than made a song, and
Speaker 1: they don't like I got motherfucker's that's gonna be really
Speaker 1: mad for the rest of their life for me, so
Speaker 1: I care about it. Sounds crazy, but I care more
Speaker 1: about the niggas I didn't done wrong in my life
Speaker 1: that I was like, you know, really done something too.
Speaker 1: Then I do a motherfucker who don't care about who
Speaker 1: don't like a song you fee me? I want to
Speaker 1: tell them theyket sorry not to necessarily music people just
Speaker 1: add where I'm at in life right now. So I
Speaker 1: understand it. But everybody like music is emotional thing, and
Speaker 1: like I knew I was gonna be able to do
Speaker 1: music because I was good at certain ship. So if
Speaker 1: I can convince you that you're mad, so you go
Speaker 1: around the corner and whatever, I know, I can get
Speaker 1: these nigga and listen to a song. When I first
Speaker 1: started met SID and telling on them, I wasn't making
Speaker 1: the music. I want to rapper. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: got no rap name, because I ask me my name,
Speaker 1: because I did the verset and it just I was
Speaker 1: told my name and they put it in the ship
Speaker 1: and that was my raping. So now the North North right,
Speaker 1: all right, now we're understanding Long Beach is its own entity.
Speaker 1: It's its own city. Now it's like you're you're narrowed down,
Speaker 1: like now I'm just not from North As. I'm not
Speaker 1: just from Long Beach. I'm from North North. Can you
Speaker 1: break that short, person that's never been to California before?
Speaker 1: What is Nor North? I mean? Yeah, it's like every
Speaker 1: every city has a segment, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And and the segments have segments. So I feel like
Speaker 1: the way it is is nobody had ever said that
Speaker 1: from I got a gang of homies that's from North
Speaker 1: Long Beach, but they from East Side gangs because I
Speaker 1: was the bigger gangs or you know, so when you
Speaker 1: because a person that don't know, when you say they
Speaker 1: from that's you're saying that's the set they joined exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's a gang. It's g g Nique
Speaker 1: is like all the dudes that's from the North, that's
Speaker 1: from Eastide gangs. Like that's reparables for me. But at
Speaker 1: the point in time, it's just you know, it's the
Speaker 1: crowd like people do would make their most sense. And
Speaker 1: also with the racial so we say this North Side,
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of the big games. Well
Speaker 1: we got the two biggest games gonna be on the
Speaker 1: way on the east of me and twenties in the
Speaker 1: same is the biggest hoods. That's where tradey from. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's like most people are just gonna be from there.
Speaker 1: And I got the homies that is from there, an
Speaker 1: homies that was from there, and then came back to
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happened like that. When you kids,
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to find your way. But it's
Speaker 1: funny North North wasn't even gone I thought it was
Speaker 1: too burnt out because so let me ask you some
Speaker 1: of him sorry to cut you off. Is that why
Speaker 1: snooping them rep east side? Yeah? Is that why the
Speaker 1: crazy thing about snoopers? I'm sorry throwing these games side horrible.
Speaker 1: I just said that he's rubbing off because I'm listening
Speaker 1: to I'm sorry and Christian cribb'all like I just got
Speaker 1: got me. I'm sorry good, I'm just like, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why they say that east out of the now. Also,
Speaker 1: I would hear certain songs or snoop was safe ship
Speaker 1: that's on the north Okay, like he said on the
Speaker 1: intro of the Oar, stayed on fifty first thirty blocks
Speaker 1: from the east side, like nigga, that's down the streets.
Speaker 1: Like why you just say that you stayed on the
Speaker 1: north like people. His father talked to him about this
Speaker 1: a million times, like he's like, he's like and he said,
Speaker 1: he always tell me that he appreciated that song because
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, he come from Areya. It was
Speaker 1: clashing like what every about in the north side. Let
Speaker 1: the songs about North North? Yeah, because like he said,
Speaker 1: it was a point time when he was clashing with
Speaker 1: the north, northeast, n there long and so that there's
Speaker 1: still kind of iffy, but um, yeah, man, I just
Speaker 1: felt like and I didn't want to put out because
Speaker 1: it was too burnt out. I felt like it was
Speaker 1: too real based on what was going on at the time.
Speaker 1: You feel me like it was if you like really
Speaker 1: listened to that song, I was doing some stupid I
Speaker 1: should have said, should have said a lot of ships.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. But yeah, man, that's my
Speaker 1: only platinum plaque, So I ain't mad at it. I
Speaker 1: ain't so so for people that didn't know. Basically, you're saying,
Speaker 1: there's there's, there's the east side of Long Beast, but
Speaker 1: then it's the north side of Long Beasts. Yes, gets
Speaker 1: overlooked a lot of times because people go and they
Speaker 1: join the east side game and in the west long
Speaker 1: as you got the west side too. There's some real
Speaker 1: dudes from over there. Like. But it's like the thing
Speaker 1: about Long Beaches. I understand it because when we grow
Speaker 1: up with those one with those racial rapping for Aians,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of racial tension and Long Beach. So
Speaker 1: it's like, if you like it's just black a Mexican o.
Speaker 1: So Asians and Mexicans, Asians and Indians. Yea, the Asian
Speaker 1: and Mexicans have a really really really bad clash, like
Speaker 1: like it's risk. It's probably worse than it's because they
Speaker 1: look closer to each other. Asians and Mexican. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: got a really bad worse than the Blacks Mexicans. It's
Speaker 1: it's probably equal, to be honest, if not only were
Speaker 1: not say worse because they're in closer proximity, some more
Speaker 1: things can still bad right now. Yeah, to the day
Speaker 1: when we say Asians, we are including zombies. Just Cambodia,
Speaker 1: you know a lot like most of Southeast Asians, Cambonians,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, that's what's crazy about Long Beach,
Speaker 1: Long Beach and mis me of Queens. They have so
Speaker 1: many different races. Someone some wow, that's crazy. Someones historically
Speaker 1: blood No, I don't know why I think trying to
Speaker 1: think call him used to have There was blood blood
Speaker 1: in Carson. I just that's how I think of in
Speaker 1: Car and Carsonal someone's bloods for them, Parting and Compton
Speaker 1: and Long Beach all some cripts, you know, all the
Speaker 1: Park Village and Company especially and yeah, then you just
Speaker 1: depend on where you at your feeling, Like like the
Speaker 1: thing about the crib blood shit, it's already it's already established.
Speaker 1: Like if you live over here, this is nig you
Speaker 1: don't get the pick really, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: When you're a kid, if you really aware of your surrounds,
Speaker 1: you kind of already know what's howe to defenh you.
Speaker 1: You know, you fall on where you live at. That
Speaker 1: was it ever crazy? Like to see somebody come to
Speaker 1: your neighborhood were all red on or some of the
Speaker 1: homies had had how manies of red hair and long
Speaker 1: beaches and you know it's nigga's cript gangs. That that
Speaker 1: we're red is like a secondary type thing. When I
Speaker 1: was going niggas wasn't. The older people wasn't feeling it,
Speaker 1: but we was young and we were doing whatever we wanted,
Speaker 1: Like you can't it's long beach, Like everybody's a crip.
Speaker 1: So ain't nobody wearing blue? That's like that's not enough,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not differentiating. And you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so I was kind of past the color thing, like
Speaker 1: that's more of an l a thing because every city
Speaker 1: got its own politics. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: what happened in La Will, happened in Content and happened
Speaker 1: a Long Beaches all different. What happened in Carson is
Speaker 1: different guarden, and everybody got different politics. So now, um,
Speaker 1: every time I see you with a hat, it's only
Speaker 1: one hat, it's a goddamn yeah all right, and that recently,
Speaker 1: and then I want my two Yankee chains. I got three.
Speaker 1: I couldn't find my other one. But um, and when
Speaker 1: I did the research, they said that you're a fan
Speaker 1: of Derek Jeter. Oh yeah, I love baseball, man. You're
Speaker 1: a fan of Yogi Barra and daw With Strawberry. Yeah. Look, man,
Speaker 1: you gotta know what to tell the police when they
Speaker 1: pull your checking out across the police used to access
Speaker 1: the name players on the team. Oh okay, let me
Speaker 1: okay again, this is the East Coast super Green. What
Speaker 1: they say We're talking about this recently on Dream Champs
Speaker 1: about how specifically now is that a gang? I mean
Speaker 1: everybody picked they on it's a gangle hoods that where
Speaker 1: they had right, we already had any black word. I
Speaker 1: had asian zat a family where that had a schoolyard,
Speaker 1: where that had the neighborhoods where they had and the
Speaker 1: fee where that has Sometimes a lot of people were
Speaker 1: it's it ain't it's only so many hats. I think
Speaker 1: it's kind of gotta shear hands. Just depend on the
Speaker 1: neighborhood you win. So so you said you have to
Speaker 1: know what the police to tell you. So the police
Speaker 1: pull you over and they say why you have that
Speaker 1: hat on? And you name somebody from the actually sports team.
Speaker 1: They're leaning in on you. Well, I mean when we
Speaker 1: was kids and we ain't even driving you someday, Oh,
Speaker 1: what's that mean? You know, when you're outside the public,
Speaker 1: when you're a kid the publicly they won't to you,
Speaker 1: but they identified that this hat. You ain't from no
Speaker 1: New York. But the police know everything, right, they be
Speaker 1: telling on themselves all day. It's five snitches that nobody
Speaker 1: know about it all the time. It's five secrets, snitche
Speaker 1: secretary that's telling the police everything that's going on. I
Speaker 1: grew up with my Space. I think it has been
Speaker 1: telling on theirselves. So the police know everything that's going on.
Speaker 1: They're not they're not stupid. Let's go, let's go back
Speaker 1: to the subject. Let me actually want my momy to
Speaker 1: go back to the Yogi Berra and the New York Hat.
Speaker 1: But let me just ask you right now, they say
Speaker 1: they've got poo shasty, right, And they said that, and
Speaker 1: then I'm just being honest. That's want every want to
Speaker 1: be honest. The person that they allegedly said that he
Speaker 1: shot took back his story with canting this story or
Speaker 1: whatever that word is, right, So then they said about
Speaker 1: that they linked the money that he actually threw in
Speaker 1: the air. So the money that was found where the
Speaker 1: people got shot, there's no way they could do that. Bro,
Speaker 1: they can do whatever they want. What I mean is
Speaker 1: they're making that ship the funk up because they know
Speaker 1: we are gonna challenge that ship. Like I'm sorry, I'm listening,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to problems with the fat but listen.
Speaker 1: One thing I noticed when the Fens came and got
Speaker 1: me for for whatever, they actually didn't know ship. They
Speaker 1: were sitting there and they were they were, they were
Speaker 1: fishing with me, and when I wasn't saying nothing, they
Speaker 1: got me the funk about it and they got someone
Speaker 1: else in there. So what I'm trying to say is
Speaker 1: most of the time they don't know ship. But what
Speaker 1: it is is they don't present something that seems like
Speaker 1: like like, let me just what they're saying is they
Speaker 1: found a dollar. Out of thousand dollars that he threw,
Speaker 1: they found one dollar. No, of course, but when I'm talking,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about different because I'm talking about you standing
Speaker 1: inside an apartment building that guy graffiti on the wall,
Speaker 1: wearing a specific hat, and we know your Instagram exactly.
Speaker 1: It's that. Now, get what I'm saying. So, so were
Speaker 1: not when I was younger, Like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: it was the police kind of knew who was who.
Speaker 1: They knew certain people. So if I know him and
Speaker 1: I know him, and you with him, now you like him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So you can kind of
Speaker 1: I was able to wiggle out of certain if they
Speaker 1: that happened. Now it's over. I ain't gonna lie to him,
Speaker 1: but you kind of can wiggle yourself out a certain
Speaker 1: we have gang probably got certain ships like that. Will
Speaker 1: take off your shirt, Let's take picture of your tattoos
Speaker 1: like they were do not to when it was miners.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, oh, give me your
Speaker 1: hat here, take a picture. And we're about seeing at
Speaker 1: the movies that you didn't have Mimi. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: have New York. You didn't have this New York naive
Speaker 1: and cent man yea yeah in a sentence until the
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Police was game Unit. And that's one thing
Speaker 1: that people gotta realize, like, you know, no matter what
Speaker 1: you're doing, I think it's important, Like speaking on the push,
Speaker 1: I think it's important to say with him, a young
Speaker 1: boy and the ship that you're happening, you're gonna understand
Speaker 1: as an artist and you, especially being young, you have
Speaker 1: so much more of your life ahead of you. Even
Speaker 1: if this raps on the last for four years, five years,
Speaker 1: you have, you know, real real possibilities of economic growth
Speaker 1: and like stabilization and ship within your community or from
Speaker 1: your family. And you gotta be mindful of that because
Speaker 1: every single thing that you do, Bro, I gotta rest
Speaker 1: he once and they dude, I was in the car.
Speaker 1: They left me in the car was hot as hell too.
Speaker 1: They left me in the car and start playing my
Speaker 1: music videos on the cell phone on this ship. But
Speaker 1: I still acting like that to know if I was
Speaker 1: playing them playing my music videos on ship, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: He posted my bill and they didn't take my They
Speaker 1: said my DNA wasn't assist. They was basically saying I
Speaker 1: wasn't in jail. And the crazy thing about it is
Speaker 1: like with you, they wanted with you at this time
Speaker 1: of year, but it's like and it's like, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't big, but it's like I would. I got arrested
Speaker 1: at home, so it was different, but it really made me.
Speaker 1: It sucked me up when I was like, so, you know,
Speaker 1: you try to wiggle and try to get to you know,
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to figure out a way to
Speaker 1: get a O R. So I'm trying to play cool
Speaker 1: with niggas and like trying to figure certain shoot out.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, excuse me, I'm talking. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: use the phone blall black because I still this day,
Speaker 1: at this moment, I mean, I didn't know if they
Speaker 1: knew where I was at, so I'm just calling blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then he said, I'll know who you are. We'll
Speaker 1: do do up there. I'm like, yeah, I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be getting built out. You know, I'm just talking to him.
Speaker 1: He's a R. So you know, you went in the
Speaker 1: back and then they put you on your ship. You go,
Speaker 1: you go to the two men's whatever. So you pull
Speaker 1: me back out and said, yeah, you're not in the
Speaker 1: system at all, blah blah blah. And I have the
Speaker 1: festival that weekend, when my first festivals. So I thought
Speaker 1: about it, like, damn, it's not a coincidence that that happened.
Speaker 1: And he asked me who killed these niggas way over
Speaker 1: here in my address along with me I'm doing in
Speaker 1: l A. You know what I'm saying. And then when
Speaker 1: I go to the fucking thing, y'all saying that y'all
Speaker 1: don't have my DNA and assistant when you just did
Speaker 1: it and I've been built out fucking twenty hours ago
Speaker 1: and I don't know it. After that, I was like,
Speaker 1: you gotta I gotta be more mindful. Like I had
Speaker 1: to judge to the d A, well we can't charge
Speaker 1: him with this and we can't do this, and we
Speaker 1: came down the d A. It's fighting for like little ship,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you gotta understand. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, but when you kind of have starting a
Speaker 1: love of success, things is gonna change. Feeling. People are
Speaker 1: gonna come for you. So you know, we just gotta
Speaker 1: do a better job at letting everybody know they're important.
Speaker 1: If you know you're important, and you're important your community,
Speaker 1: importing your people, and you can really change everything on
Speaker 1: a small level. You know, for you're a rapper and
Speaker 1: you get a hundred thousand dollars, then that's not a
Speaker 1: lot based on what rappers say, but that's a lot
Speaker 1: in the real world, and you can change a lot
Speaker 1: for your people. So, you know what, you gotta be smarter.
Speaker 1: You know, I came from an era where we was
Speaker 1: dick heads, but the record labels really did have our
Speaker 1: backs at that time. Like I don't remember a rapper
Speaker 1: ever staying in jail more than five days. Like I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk if it was for murder, I
Speaker 1: don't give a funk, Like you know, God bless because
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is this is not bigging
Speaker 1: them up, but this is also just pointing out the
Speaker 1: facts you know from you know, our brother right here
Speaker 1: and looking at DMX, I don't remember DMX. Like when
Speaker 1: when Leo cons and Kevin Lows and Julie Greenwall and
Speaker 1: Mike Kaiser and all of them were together, they were
Speaker 1: Remember Leo Cols belled me out one time and gave
Speaker 1: me fifteen grand over and I was like, what the funk?
Speaker 1: Like he was like, here take it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like why. He was like, I'm talking to
Speaker 1: you for it anyway. I thought he was like the
Speaker 1: bell was dirty grand. It was only fifteen but you
Speaker 1: want me to do you want me to take it back?
Speaker 1: I was like, fifteen grand back, motherfucker. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to say. Stay here.
Speaker 1: They had a retainer on standby. That's the crazy. This's
Speaker 1: is real ship. I'm not making this up, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like they moved on one to bigger
Speaker 1: and better, but they gave you the money. He because
Speaker 1: he it was on your budget, it was on my budget.
Speaker 1: Puts on but like they had bail like like like
Speaker 1: I know it's that, but but like they would sign
Speaker 1: you and say, Okay, eventually we think he's gonna catch
Speaker 1: a case, so let's put fifty grand to the side
Speaker 1: for him. Let's put thirty grand to the side of him.
Speaker 1: DMX had bodied five to the side. Roll like that's serious,
Speaker 1: Like that's serious, and I never yeah, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: have four or five fellers, these are still on the street,
Speaker 1: Like listen and this this is, this is, this is
Speaker 1: not the days of no snitching is going on nothing,
Speaker 1: that's record. Labels had to understanding what the police saying,
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay to get our people out. And when
Speaker 1: I look at because I know Gucci Man, because I
Speaker 1: know Push actually signed the Pucci Man, so I know
Speaker 1: Gucci Man got it. I'm not saying financially, but what
Speaker 1: it is is sometimes you need that complexion for the
Speaker 1: white complexion, for that connection, you understand I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: when we're doing things like that, That's why I was
Speaker 1: always scared, you know, to sign to a murder ink
Speaker 1: or a death row because the face of the company
Speaker 1: just wasn't wasn't accepting in the court and the course
Speaker 1: somebody like like this le All comes, nights coming, take
Speaker 1: going to take Le's money. Man, I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: just one of is not now take Leo out because
Speaker 1: you know what people saying, Oh that's the white guy
Speaker 1: taking le All out, takeing out. Put Kevin Lows in there,
Speaker 1: put uh, put a Kadar, put a Mark Pitts or
Speaker 1: something like that. It would be the same exact thing.
Speaker 1: Show this reputation supersedes him. So they'll go with the
Speaker 1: lesser even or lesser powers. But what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is regulabels back then, like when I'm looking at
Speaker 1: you said the NBA Young boy, Um, that's another right
Speaker 1: now the case right now I think even um, I'll
Speaker 1: keep hearing about little dirt name keep popping up. And
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I'm not I'm not glorifying this.
Speaker 1: But back then these cases will disappear. But were also
Speaker 1: I think I think I think what you're saying is
Speaker 1: and we didn't have Instagram, Yeah, But also what you're
Speaker 1: saying is that the the labels is more aware of
Speaker 1: who these artists was. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: that come to sell forward because at the point of time,
Speaker 1: like I was saying that the labels and they might
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on with him because the
Speaker 1: world has changed so much. They might be struggling a
Speaker 1: lot of these dudes, like you just think we need
Speaker 1: self awareness, like what they need artists, like they need
Speaker 1: to know how important it is. Bro, I going to
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, brought swear to God. You hear it a
Speaker 1: hunted NBA Young Boys songs back to back and then
Speaker 1: you hear a hunted Little Dirt songs back to back.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, like like these people is
Speaker 1: real significant, important people in our culture. You know, everybody
Speaker 1: had their struggles, but also listen to these songs. Listened
Speaker 1: where these people come from. We can't expect everybody to
Speaker 1: be ready to fly straight right away, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So no real talk, no real patient. Another perspective,
Speaker 1: and you might have to look at it. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: not that they had your back. Is that the investment
Speaker 1: was so important for them. We have bigger budgets they
Speaker 1: need to because it was worth a lot of money
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, we have bigger but there's not so
Speaker 1: much buster arrested, you arrested, the bail money? Yeah yeah, Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's a better times. Don't want
Speaker 1: to be the old dude, you know, back in the days,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, when the dimeback was a dime.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy. But what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to tell you is, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to tell you is I've got a
Speaker 1: lot better back then. Because although they although they might
Speaker 1: have not gave a ship about us, just as they
Speaker 1: don't give a about us. Now, at least they they pretended,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say for intended. At least it
Speaker 1: felt like that, you know what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 1: would go to certain CEO's houses and things like that.
Speaker 1: It's and it's not to like, you know, praise it.
Speaker 1: But you know, for a kid coming from the ghetto,
Speaker 1: you move out of the ghetto, you go, you go
Speaker 1: get your version of what you think is wealth. And
Speaker 1: then and then this regulabel comes and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: let me show you what I think as well. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And for some people it's motivations,
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't look at you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys see, but jay Z just
Speaker 1: uh went to this Hampton party, rights all white Hampton party.
Speaker 1: And if you look at this, jay Z is showing
Speaker 1: his watching every one of the pictures. I don't care
Speaker 1: what pos it is. He like you look at the
Speaker 1: pictures with FaceTime. He's not digging up his loves like this.
Speaker 1: Y'all see that three million out of me. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you don't never grow out of, you know,
Speaker 1: the holy ship. You don't the man has everything, the
Speaker 1: most beautiful his wife in the world, and he went
Speaker 1: to the happens and who the star wasn't happen It's
Speaker 1: three million dollar watch. You know what I'm saying, Look
Speaker 1: at go Google to see Google right now, I don't
Speaker 1: eve you were catching from You're catching from either angle.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He was like this, he's gonna see that,
Speaker 1: and you gonna see that ship. And it's like he
Speaker 1: got everything in the world. But we don't grow, we
Speaker 1: don't get out of certain things, and we're still these people.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know I got there, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's an ill situation. Now when you go to Google
Speaker 1: it and go look at it, you're gonna see. So
Speaker 1: I don't know why I got there what we were
Speaker 1: talking about. But but back to your original point, it's
Speaker 1: not that I don't know you even drunk. It's not
Speaker 1: the prevalent. But but I kind of know what you
Speaker 1: mean because when I was doing Street Team Ship Mark Echo,
Speaker 1: he was working in the Echo account. I got locked up.
Speaker 1: He came and got he flew us out to the
Speaker 1: Jersey where I was like we had a meeting with him,
Speaker 1: which we was never having meetings with the CEO of
Speaker 1: any company we worked with. And then he brought in
Speaker 1: the lawyer afterwards because it makes you sign a release
Speaker 1: saying that if you get caught doing promo ship you
Speaker 1: don't work for the company. Then we signed it. Then
Speaker 1: the lawyer comes in and he goes, it's the lawyer.
Speaker 1: You're gonna talk to you guys. If any of your
Speaker 1: gets caught, it's on us. We're gonna get you out.
Speaker 1: Here's the lawyer's card. But when I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is different, and so I kind of get with you.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that we're a little bit more mafia
Speaker 1: structured back then. Right now we're I mean, I get
Speaker 1: what you're saying, because at that point in time, I
Speaker 1: guess hip hop wasn't necessarily commercial stranstration. You know, it's
Speaker 1: getting commercial, So it was kind of operated in the
Speaker 1: world that like he was the first real commercial guy
Speaker 1: like that wasn't trying to be commercial, like he That
Speaker 1: dude never changed, like that dude was as pure as
Speaker 1: But I mean, would you call it commercial? Ain't ship commercial?
Speaker 1: D MG? Ex fact that it went commercial, what's it's
Speaker 1: the thing, this thing that that's not that's not commercial.
Speaker 1: That's just success a lot a lot of the times.
Speaker 1: So you know, and whenever mother get success, you get
Speaker 1: a love of success. You can't. You gotta switch your roles.
Speaker 1: It's not all I'm a running against some money. It's like,
Speaker 1: now you commercial because of the hyde, but records will
Speaker 1: make you commercial. Like Uma was bigger than me my
Speaker 1: Spanish record, But who do you go up it but that?
Speaker 1: But that's still not commercial? Commercial? How some ship commercial
Speaker 1: and it's not in English and you clear out the world.
Speaker 1: It was like commercial but coal It's just how do
Speaker 1: you fund commercial? Argument? I'm not another debating him, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying is like like like to me, little Kim
Speaker 1: records superseded? Kind of who little a little Kim? Excuse
Speaker 1: me say that. It's the opposite way. People more less
Speaker 1: know who Lulu Kim is. This they know hard records,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because they're identified with her,
Speaker 1: her image. It's so big that I think she supersedes
Speaker 1: her records. That's brand though. That's when you become a brand. Okay,
Speaker 1: your records, that's just you as a brand. I mean
Speaker 1: everybody gets to the point of where they where they
Speaker 1: bigger than their records. If you get to that certain height,
Speaker 1: you gotta be bigger than you know. I'm not. I've
Speaker 1: never got to bigger than black pit Bull. Pit Bull
Speaker 1: is a good guy who I see served a balance
Speaker 1: and I see you got a love for people. Watch
Speaker 1: you watch People and j Lott Tour or something like
Speaker 1: that episode so um, but People was as a person
Speaker 1: I feel like who did a perfect like he was
Speaker 1: became Mr Worldwide and they can keep her suit on.
Speaker 1: He never swept for some reason, hedn't started like that though,
Speaker 1: well he swept before, not at all, don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know a PRIs let me be taken over. You know
Speaker 1: what people look like. He had the blower on him,
Speaker 1: nigger him, and I was at the fight. It was
Speaker 1: the most I was calling some Cuban Miami ship. I
Speaker 1: was like in the middle of now we damn that
Speaker 1: went to blows were talking about it. I was in
Speaker 1: the middle and it was like, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was mad because you know, two Cuban guys
Speaker 1: mad is the most hilarious ship you see in the world.
Speaker 1: I just I don't care what you said, Like when
Speaker 1: they were going at each other and they go they
Speaker 1: get red. And I'll tell you, the only thing that's
Speaker 1: more entertaining than two Cuban guys going at it is
Speaker 1: if a crip is mad at you, when the crip
Speaker 1: person at you. Corrupt one day, Corrupt was like crupp
Speaker 1: is different, though, was crazy. That's my was like, was
Speaker 1: like because cubs on sixties every sixty and I was
Speaker 1: just like and I forgot, like, listen if you had
Speaker 1: been squashed it and it was all good. But I
Speaker 1: was like, Keith still saying what you were saying, like
Speaker 1: it's an art and and the down South dude when
Speaker 1: the downstop dude and start beefing. Those are the three
Speaker 1: best things. So why y'all never talk about correct being
Speaker 1: like one of the best trappers? Definitely? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: This is crazy. He noticed that, right, Yeah. And let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. So you said you stayed
Speaker 1: in south Gate, I lived in south Yeah. Were you young? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My family is in Downing. Did you have how was it?
Speaker 1: Did you have to grow up like convincing people to
Speaker 1: not convinced, but explain to people that you're not Mexican. Yeah, Actually,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I really remember Mexican kids didn't
Speaker 1: like me because you weren't Max. You wouldn't say it was.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what I was because didn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, because I was like Mexican and I knew
Speaker 1: I wasn't. But I didn't know what Cuban was. And
Speaker 1: they're like, what is that? My cousin who was older
Speaker 1: had to come out and fight, fighting the fight for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that get rough what you asked it when
Speaker 1: you said that, what's the Cuban ship? What's the Cuban ship?
Speaker 1: You say I wasn't, brother, I was, they said, he said,
Speaker 1: this guy like you're staying saying like and and and
Speaker 1: and they kind of really just like the Mexican and
Speaker 1: like else Hava Dorian and I didn't really know about
Speaker 1: the other stuff, Like I was just curious growing up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now there's Cubans and Downey Downey's hell, Yeah that's what
Speaker 1: my family is now. And my family is in Inglewood
Speaker 1: as well. About thirty what about it? Right? I miss
Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's a hood. They're not like
Speaker 1: they're not checking like blood semple when I was a
Speaker 1: kid of COVID testing. Yeah, just who you is? But
Speaker 1: you don't know a black nigger from him at start
Speaker 1: Team Cool, Lou, Yeah cool, this's my dog's next a
Speaker 1: noys for the black I was when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I was locked up with people in their t what
Speaker 1: I was telling people this, this gang is crazy, not
Speaker 1: knowing that did crazy. You never seen this dude operate,
Speaker 1: never seen it. I just looked at his pictures and
Speaker 1: I was like, these niggs is crazy. Like that's so
Speaker 1: they didn't have to prove nothing to me, Like I
Speaker 1: don't have to go on Instagram and DM not. But
Speaker 1: and now to see you know MS thirteen, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, bro. But you know that's how you know
Speaker 1: l A, Los Angeles, California gangs are crazy. You know
Speaker 1: that started from eight Team Street. No, no, okay, let
Speaker 1: let's not happen. Okay, don't say I heard listen, come on,
Speaker 1: this is where I heard watching so gang Land. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: but just so you know, you know, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like ten eight, it's like ten different MS thirteen who
Speaker 1: was like at minimum right? Oh no, I didn't know
Speaker 1: every one of them started there from this day at
Speaker 1: thirteen in Korea Town. It's one MacArthur Park. It's like
Speaker 1: it's five five hoods over there. So the documentary about
Speaker 1: the park, that's where they get higher. All right, I
Speaker 1: mean you mad documentaries about man, simply where are you
Speaker 1: watching these documents? That's when they get high, man, that's
Speaker 1: where that's crossing. Got shot on the Fresh Prince. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you remember? Wait? Will got shot? Really they tried to.
Speaker 1: They try to shoot Carlton and Will had to hop
Speaker 1: in front of the bullet. Carlton had to blow it,
Speaker 1: but he part fake, So We'll got shot. Carlton ain't
Speaker 1: plugging number. But then Carlton came back to the household
Speaker 1: with the lawn like man, I'm I'm a hand of this.
Speaker 1: And then Will took the blower from this, like nigga,
Speaker 1: why you got the blower in the hospital. You're going
Speaker 1: to jail. This is what impresses me. And we can
Speaker 1: go back to my car. The part like you know
Speaker 1: your history, like you really French prints. I didn't really here. No,
Speaker 1: that's to be fun that I'm giving me what you
Speaker 1: said it sid a mad historical Yeah I've heard. I
Speaker 1: felt like that should happen, and like with Will Smith
Speaker 1: man shout out Will Smith and his kids. Man, because
Speaker 1: like even like like I want to go Google, go
Speaker 1: back to the the the Yankee thing even knowing Yogi
Speaker 1: bearra like at your age, like was that someone that
Speaker 1: passed down to you or not that The g Q
Speaker 1: just asked me why it was? Then if into the
Speaker 1: Yankee and I'm not giving a white people the seekers,
Speaker 1: So I'm started to having people that I lay from
Speaker 1: them Yankees. Okay, And you said Derek Jither, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I funt with Derek. Dere was nice. Yeah. We gave
Speaker 1: me his one of the keep a championship at Cherry
Speaker 1: Park when Derrik was popping. We used to play and
Speaker 1: then we fought and Cherry Parker is well, it's as
Speaker 1: long as you want to know about the cemetery. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now I assumed you also named Darryl Strawberry because you're
Speaker 1: like cocaine stories nuts, Strawberry brother, like a real crib.
Speaker 1: It's like a real holy ship brother, real thinking. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna speak with the drivers, but they their families
Speaker 1: a real thiggau I ain't gonna love. In my mind,
Speaker 1: I saw a down Strawberry cop in my mind. This
Speaker 1: is allegedly. Now you know what I'm saying his brother
Speaker 1: that they you know, you know when the old nigga
Speaker 1: shake your hand and they just really aggressive with him.
Speaker 1: That kind of not sweaty palm not you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Don't like sweaties. Sweaty palms is not good. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't like sweaty palms. Okay, I got more notes.
Speaker 1: God damn, I got more notes. Man. Uh huh Okay.
Speaker 1: Hold because no one's gonna take a shot. So I
Speaker 1: mean you want to go by Mr Shots get shot?
Speaker 1: All right? Listen, this is what we're gonna do. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a new game. It's called a quick Time
Speaker 1: and slop the same game, right, but we want you
Speaker 1: to pick out who you want to take a shot
Speaker 1: for you. You can pick out any one of these
Speaker 1: guys right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great girls,
Speaker 1: great shoe, great shot, great shot. So so we're gonna
Speaker 1: make it worse. So it's quick time with slides. You
Speaker 1: could you can pick one of the other, no problem.
Speaker 1: Neither is he take a shot? Both he take a shot?
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take a shot of green juice, all right?
Speaker 1: Nas or jay Z. Well, we have music, yeah, music,
Speaker 1: whatever whatever it is to you. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: drink out. We'll be pouring your shot and find expirits
Speaker 1: in the world. I think we said that, vincebo your shot,
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen sent it to me. I didn't actually drink
Speaker 1: it yet. Did we drink drunk? Scott Pippen was that
Speaker 1: I didn't the green juice, the green juice or green
Speaker 1: juice from organic food organic foods taking just come out.
Speaker 1: That's right, and on my strawberry. You think that's why
Speaker 1: they beating because Scotty got Scotch. I think Scottie and
Speaker 1: Jordan Jordan. Jordan got to kill me. But Jordan's ship
Speaker 1: is good. Jordan, Top shut that drink top show. Yeah, Jordan,
Speaker 1: I'm not in the killer like a trophy. But keep
Speaker 1: it going. Did you take it? We shouldn't let him
Speaker 1: pull your shot. Okay, there we go. Okay, Ken j
Speaker 1: A call Kindred. Okay, then that was fast. That's what
Speaker 1: I mean. Okay, uh dmx a tupap Okay, West Coast Man.
Speaker 1: They sure New York. Why saying are you going back
Speaker 1: to that Baltimore? Because I love his history of it,
Speaker 1: just knowing his history and being upfront with it. Kanye Farrell. Look, okay,
Speaker 1: back that Tyler or Earl wrapping anything. It depends because
Speaker 1: when they're not close in no way. Okay, you gotta
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta specify who you really hang with, Oh
Speaker 1: tab Earl all day. I'm not hanging out with Tyler.
Speaker 1: I think it got too much energy. White you too much? Okay,
Speaker 1: Ice Cuba iced tea, I didn't, Okay, respect on loyalty.
Speaker 1: I respect n w A or future a Biggie You're
Speaker 1: Big al Biggie podcast or radio podcast, dre or DJ
Speaker 1: quick quick mm hmm. Shocking me some of these what
Speaker 1: are you talking? I know, I know, I know this
Speaker 1: as as well. Long Beach or a t L Long Beach.
Speaker 1: Push your a kiss Kid kiss Cardi or Nicki minaj
Speaker 1: I like little Kim Bro, I'll expect that the answer
Speaker 1: it's accepted, Bro Kim a Foxy. That's a shot. That's
Speaker 1: a shot shot all right? First is that let's kind
Speaker 1: out fire. That's kind of about because card Nicky is
Speaker 1: like said another, I never listened to the music, but
Speaker 1: like they seem cool, like you feel me, I would
Speaker 1: like go to the house against the macaroni and cheese silace. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Kim a foxy oh Kim okay major or independent
Speaker 1: independent Alchemists or no, I d y late nineties or
Speaker 1: early two dollars hip hop? It would be early nine
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Speaker 1: no four dog sells four because none And quick as
Speaker 1: the name is right at night R three quick quick
Speaker 1: as the name a second? No, No, that's doing on seven?
Speaker 1: Sound on it seven? Sound not quick as than that.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember. You supposed to be hip hop
Speaker 1: sped years we drink man drunk facts over here, the
Speaker 1: Lakers versus the Clippers. Lakers okay, Jordan or Lebron uh
Speaker 1: m hmm, I call Lebron go space a ray quam
Speaker 1: yeah go, holy morning, I got I got more. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you said that black people most of the time
Speaker 1: takes z X and lean because they hear it in
Speaker 1: the rap song the young Niggers. For sure, I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, yeah, I feel like it's not even
Speaker 1: just it's not even that it's just music in general.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, and I didn't know what lean
Speaker 1: was until until until uh st three I didn't know
Speaker 1: what lean was too. I went on tour with April
Speaker 1: m j G. And then like you think about still
Speaker 1: tipping and get throw like that. I don't know, we
Speaker 1: didn't really it gets California. It's different, it's different cultures
Speaker 1: every But that's all I'm saying. Music is an introductory
Speaker 1: point because it's the same thing with all these people
Speaker 1: are these other stage taking loud they want They didn't
Speaker 1: know what chrystial blood was only until they got really
Speaker 1: big in the music, of course, and they're gonna go
Speaker 1: to your city and set up. But that's not gonna
Speaker 1: have it be to where it is now. The music
Speaker 1: is the biggest you know thing that it changes everything
Speaker 1: bro changed every end Internet. But so why do you
Speaker 1: why do you think that all our folks is like that?
Speaker 1: Like because why do you think that's so easily everybody
Speaker 1: like that? Everything like that? I think think about thinking
Speaker 1: about the spread of racism in places that don't have
Speaker 1: no black people, you know what I mean? That was
Speaker 1: told that. I mean when you look at it's just
Speaker 1: a medium and mass conception, a certain ship. What you
Speaker 1: consume is who you are, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you think about what you eat and you know
Speaker 1: what you drinking things that you are so so essentially
Speaker 1: that's everybody. It's not just black people. You see um
Speaker 1: Dick Gregory documentary. I ain't seen it. I ain't seen it.
Speaker 1: You've seen it, but everyone is aware of Dick Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. It's all I knew was he was.
Speaker 1: He's a funny guy. I did not know he went
Speaker 1: on a fast for two years. I did not he
Speaker 1: ran across country, like you know what was he fasted
Speaker 1: for two years? Just water? Uh, let's juicing. He was juicing,
Speaker 1: he um. And then he ran from like New York
Speaker 1: to bottom all and then he did like yeah in
Speaker 1: real life, like this is not far as gone. And
Speaker 1: then he found out a white dude who who had
Speaker 1: orchestrated a run from New York to California. So he
Speaker 1: asked the dud and he did it. So he ran
Speaker 1: fifty it's two marathons, six US twenty so he did
Speaker 1: about fifty eight miles a day. Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: I watched the documentary last night. I didn't know why,
Speaker 1: but I was like, yo, this is some different ship.
Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to tell you is me being
Speaker 1: OPT four this year. I knew none of that. Like
Speaker 1: I knew he was, you know, for us blacks, I
Speaker 1: didn't know how much he was for and he was
Speaker 1: fighting world hunger. So he said he didn't eat. So
Speaker 1: when people asked him why you didn't eat, he said,
Speaker 1: because there's people in this world that's starving, And he
Speaker 1: said that's how. He didn't have a Twitter, he didn't
Speaker 1: have an Instagram, so that's how he was spreading the world.
Speaker 1: So that ship fucked me up to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering like, like, did you did you
Speaker 1: get the hell uh Dick Gregories plots and things like that,
Speaker 1: or I'm not but I did not see that document
Speaker 1: in act about some of the stuff you just said.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I'm I think that that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's how I'm going to sense. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta be about the ships you say, you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of live with your actions, and we
Speaker 1: should get to a place where that worst. You know,
Speaker 1: usually it's like we care when they live what they're saying.
Speaker 1: If it's some negative stuff, we gotta care about it
Speaker 1: on a positive end. So and just make sure that
Speaker 1: everybody is you know, you gotta try to help. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't. You can't put so much, you know,
Speaker 1: bad in your life. You know, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: do some good ship, right, So when we were when
Speaker 1: are we seeing you on a big screen? What what's
Speaker 1: happening when ship? Man, I'm trying. I'm trying. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to excuse me. I'm trying to write these shows out.
Speaker 1: I got to show your own show. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: ask show ship coming through Netflix hopefully, well if we
Speaker 1: can pack it out and h yeah, I got this
Speaker 1: movie called dead Ass that we're trying to get picked up.
Speaker 1: We're kind of the stuff. I do all this and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but I try to make some New
Speaker 1: York ship. You know that's our slang dead ass that
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're saying that. Look I want to change.
Speaker 1: Did I just help him? I just helped his case.
Speaker 1: I need that separate. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, you can't name a
Speaker 1: movie this if it ain't gonna be out there, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I can about what is the movie about? That? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just tell yourselfing you your personality is one of
Speaker 1: the most phenomenal personalities I've ever seen. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to study you, and not only that, you're
Speaker 1: a very very smart individual. I don't think there's anybody
Speaker 1: that we can compare you too that came before you,
Speaker 1: and I don't think there's anybody that we're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to compare to you after. You're a very different individual.
Speaker 1: Like I love the way you thought. You see how
Speaker 1: he's breaking it down. It brings you to a question,
Speaker 1: did you ever have artists development or this is something
Speaker 1: that you develop on your own. I don't have nothing. Wow.
Speaker 1: I never never had. I ain't never been putting up
Speaker 1: producer sessions. Wow, I never been putting on riding camps.
Speaker 1: I never have no real A and R work on
Speaker 1: my child as that could at the point of time.
Speaker 1: It's all about access. You know, of course everybody cares,
Speaker 1: but I never had people all Twitter blah blah, and
Speaker 1: it's not like the social media stuff. This ain't nothing
Speaker 1: that was. That's just I just had to I had
Speaker 1: to figure something out because we ain't had the biggest budgets,
Speaker 1: and we had we ain't had certain torrent thing, if
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to find cool ways and promote ship.
Speaker 1: You know, just I'm regular niggers, so I ain't never
Speaker 1: trying to be, you know, a superstar and all you
Speaker 1: should do did you do? Do you shoot that? I
Speaker 1: ain't never. It just happened for me, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's funny. Sharle Mayne. I heard CHARLETTA. Mayne saying once
Speaker 1: to an e Broils saying once Sto'm paraphrasing, but one
Speaker 1: of them is like, oh, you know, with Vince. I
Speaker 1: think I think Charlotte Mayne was one of said Vincus
Speaker 1: personality is bigger than music. I think even somebody else
Speaker 1: it was one of them. Other to do said one
Speaker 1: of them too specifically, I said, yeah, once Vince stops,
Speaker 1: change switches from music and does something else, saying he's
Speaker 1: gonna do really, really good. And I didn't understand why
Speaker 1: they said it till I got older, because I don't
Speaker 1: have a correct view of the world. You're almost thinking,
Speaker 1: like to trying to this your music. No, not even
Speaker 1: that I thought of it like this, Like you know,
Speaker 1: when you come from it, when you come from the ship,
Speaker 1: it's like it's an opportunity and you feel like you
Speaker 1: don't want to you know if this, if if this
Speaker 1: the hand that's pulling you up, you don't want to
Speaker 1: let it go. You feel you don't want to even
Speaker 1: try to look a right. You're really seeing past it exactly.
Speaker 1: You just want to hold on, say that hand and
Speaker 1: how to get up out the mud basically, And I
Speaker 1: think I was like that for a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I can't do this because that's gonna sun with this,
Speaker 1: because that's good, funk with that when the reality all
Speaker 1: these other things was propelling it. So, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to make sure I can kind of diversify ship
Speaker 1: the most I can and just don't do the ship.
Speaker 1: People don't get these opportunities. I ain't never done nothing
Speaker 1: on TV ever. I knew the shows, no, none of that,
Speaker 1: and I got Gotta I Gotta shell picked up from
Speaker 1: Netflix that me and the Honey made up. But we
Speaker 1: didn't write nothing. We just went and filmed it. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? What's it? What's it called a
Speaker 1: Little Dickie? I ain't seen it yet, but the hommy
Speaker 1: right on that song shout, I dropped that show, my hommy, Travis.
Speaker 1: I see um season one. I haven't got a chance
Speaker 1: to see season two, but I would say that to say,
Speaker 1: I see you doing something similar like you being you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's possible like that. That's that's what we're working on.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna station ship, but that's that's what you're working on.
Speaker 1: Is hopefully a panel. I'm good. I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be straight. Like put it like this. When I watched
Speaker 1: The Little Thing, I didn't know who's the homies real name?
Speaker 1: What's uh? What's the artist that's like, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of my drug now let you go, let you know.
Speaker 1: So I went in with the attentions like why would
Speaker 1: they give a new artist, you know, this platform, Like
Speaker 1: I'm going in hating like to a certain extent, like
Speaker 1: to a certain extent like yo, like let me tell,
Speaker 1: and I went I came out loving it like we're
Speaker 1: season two, like you know what I mean, because again
Speaker 1: I don't know this man struggle. I don't know who
Speaker 1: he is. So I didn't know that, you know, they
Speaker 1: had the same type of struggles just because they might
Speaker 1: not be as poor as us, but their family is
Speaker 1: not supporting them. Yeah. Yeah, like you said, emotional ship
Speaker 1: and all this crazy like you know, being an artist,
Speaker 1: that's why that's why I love DMX statement when he said, yo,
Speaker 1: he stopped calling an artists whack. And I asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, well, why would you stop calling artists whack?
Speaker 1: He said, because one artist for sixteen different families. And
Speaker 1: I was just like wow, Like, regardless of let's think
Speaker 1: about it, for artists works at bare minimum, he's speeding
Speaker 1: at least eight to ten on his own team. Then
Speaker 1: he's helping out six to seven to maybe even the
Speaker 1: whole record label. He like saved the whole record label,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So um, But getting back
Speaker 1: to that, when I see the show, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was actually impressed, but I was more impressed that
Speaker 1: Obviously I don't know this guy. I've never met him before,
Speaker 1: but he was portraying a life that I think that
Speaker 1: he lived. Yeah, it's important, like like but like you said,
Speaker 1: you never know somebody entry points. So him doing that
Speaker 1: show my guardens. Even like when Atlanta with Donald Gloving.
Speaker 1: Like Atlanta, of course, Donald was already successful, but Atlanta
Speaker 1: opened him up to so many more people that probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been paying attention. So you gotta be willing
Speaker 1: to take the risk, and like even even ship, like
Speaker 1: when you think about Aaron, What y'all girl, Which is
Speaker 1: when y'all was all making music, y'all was taking risks.
Speaker 1: Y'all wasn't doing the same thing over and over and
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And it's important to
Speaker 1: be creative in that light and just you know, trying
Speaker 1: to do different ships, y'all paying out. You also said
Speaker 1: one thing, I'm sorry you're bounsing around. You said you
Speaker 1: can't be a thug in broke. Even George Washington living
Speaker 1: Compton once. Now this nigga, not George Bush. George Bush
Speaker 1: lived in Compton, and Kevin Cosner from Compton, Board from
Speaker 1: Compton the Bodyguard when he was in Bodyguard Compton? Is
Speaker 1: he from He from Compton? Compton? Yea? And they got farm.
Speaker 1: He lived in the mobs over there off like Closter
Speaker 1: Bullets and who else? He said, George Bush and George
Speaker 1: Buston lived in County. I got that from him from
Speaker 1: my mama Google it. Compthing was nice, that's where he
Speaker 1: was at. It was Compton was like pals brain. So
Speaker 1: the niggas went over there with him. Guys changed it all.
Speaker 1: They had to get up out of there. Really, know
Speaker 1: what's you know what's crazy about you, and I know
Speaker 1: you like you know your history. You know, it's crazy
Speaker 1: about the West Coast. When the West Coast, when you
Speaker 1: ever you say something's funked up about the West Coast,
Speaker 1: you always have to blame the South. You know why?
Speaker 1: Sorry South people, Sorry, y'all went west thinking there was
Speaker 1: no racism. I was thinking because it was the South
Speaker 1: was really really racist. And in order to go to
Speaker 1: the right to up north, you got to have a
Speaker 1: little bit of money or have some family. So those
Speaker 1: that was from the South that didn't have a little
Speaker 1: bit of money, we go to the East Californa. California
Speaker 1: had a trade you say, you warn't over They had
Speaker 1: to try the train system and the infrastructure for warehouse jobs.
Speaker 1: I don't think trying to escape racism. It was fo opportunity,
Speaker 1: just based on the Gym Crow South. A lot a
Speaker 1: lot of the people out organizing, like the l A
Speaker 1: police chasing people like that they was getting from the
Speaker 1: Gym Crow South kind of help. Real line of the
Speaker 1: black communities in the Hispanic communities. Like you think about
Speaker 1: how the freeways has been a railroad and with downtown
Speaker 1: l A used to be like eight nine areas like that,
Speaker 1: A zuslu rides and things of that nature. It's always
Speaker 1: been a big separation. And how what he's saying is
Speaker 1: the South kind of a lot of people came not
Speaker 1: understanding what was going on. And we think about the
Speaker 1: building of Venice and how Venice was built. You know,
Speaker 1: A McKinney died, gave it to a black dude. So
Speaker 1: he built the Oakland region for black and Hispanic people,
Speaker 1: and then they took it in the late nineties. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because it was he writing this
Speaker 1: sent because it was it was it wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of knowledge of what was going on in California. So
Speaker 1: when people came to California was kind of taking off
Speaker 1: guard by what happened, and a lot of people it
Speaker 1: was presented the opportunities there was I think um before
Speaker 1: or something like that. It was a big car, It
Speaker 1: was a fist factor firestone factory. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: big fire stool. And they were hiring, they were hiring brothers.
Speaker 1: The brothers was going out and then you gotta realize
Speaker 1: California's beautiful weather. So and they're in the South and
Speaker 1: the Atlanta, South Carolina, uh, North Carolina, Virginia and all
Speaker 1: these places where they're still flying the Confederate flag. So
Speaker 1: anywhere to the people that don't got a Confederate flag
Speaker 1: seems like the primis land to us in California and
Speaker 1: New York being one. But the crazy the ship. When
Speaker 1: people say it all kind of come from the South,
Speaker 1: they're not kind of lying because all of our ancests
Speaker 1: that was was out in the South at first. That's
Speaker 1: where that's where to pick a cotton. It was happening,
Speaker 1: and it happened to New York. Didn't happen in California.
Speaker 1: That should have happened in the South. You understand, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we got deep today. We got deep today. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. So yeah, so should
Speaker 1: we talked about George Bush? Yeah, it was definitely not junior. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's diculous. That's why I was getting confused. L ten
Speaker 1: forty nine. Wow, that's not far though. That's technically is
Speaker 1: that where they started their oil business? Because it's all
Speaker 1: there's a cowboys this cowboys in Compton. Yeah, like the
Speaker 1: documentary I saw that. I forgot his name. Bro he
Speaker 1: Um the Trap Kitchen put put us on because we
Speaker 1: was out there filming for the trap kitchen. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: blood and the cript, both of them, and leave. Sorry
Speaker 1: to say it like this. It was getting some meat delivered,
Speaker 1: and I was like, sorry, sorry to say it like that,
Speaker 1: but you know, pause, and I was like, where is that.
Speaker 1: They said that the homies come on on on the horses,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm thinking this is totally slang.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm thinking, I'm out of the loop.
Speaker 1: This is some l a slang that coming down on
Speaker 1: with the horses. So I said, Nora, don't ask what
Speaker 1: the horses is, you know, just just be cool. You're
Speaker 1: in Compidon, you're in Compton. You have to trap kitchen.
Speaker 1: And then the homie comes with a horse. And I'm like, nah, bro,
Speaker 1: And I did not. I would never, like never in
Speaker 1: a million years. The only time I think I see
Speaker 1: a horse in New York City is a police police
Speaker 1: officers on top of it. You can get you to
Speaker 1: get you some landing coming, get you a little you
Speaker 1: really really you went to trying to blue swag. My
Speaker 1: aunt got like a football field in her backyard. Literally,
Speaker 1: like it's crazy. So he did say, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: but she get really horses. I also thought that was
Speaker 1: a joke. Yeah, yeah, I'm Sharon's gonna shoot that horse everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna make it a horse count Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew he was working with me with that far.
Speaker 1: I knew he was spoke with that par but man,
Speaker 1: hold on, I got a couple more. Okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: all right, all right. This one disturbed me because when
Speaker 1: I researched you, you know your your pistory, you know
Speaker 1: your past, but you sat down with Joe Buden and
Speaker 1: you told the whole crew you did not see New
Speaker 1: Jack City. I still ain't see New Jack City. It's
Speaker 1: on my list, though, it's on my lists, on my
Speaker 1: list for your listen, what's what's before New Jack City
Speaker 1: on your list? I just need to uh ship, that's
Speaker 1: a good question I want to pull. I really got
Speaker 1: a list of Saved by the Bell on that. I mean, look, bro,
Speaker 1: ship when that come on? Yeah, I don't even no,
Speaker 1: but it's just a classic, like the jay Is late
Speaker 1: eighties South sent you came out before my time. I
Speaker 1: saw it. See, I don't know. That's why I don't
Speaker 1: see everything else. I don't love the New York movies,
Speaker 1: but New n and Yesterday's Yeah, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: I ain't seen it. You hear you hear references stuff
Speaker 1: a lot. But I thought about what else. I've never
Speaker 1: seen this movie. And it's based on the true story. Loosely, yes,
Speaker 1: it's based on a true story. It's based Yeah, based
Speaker 1: on a true story. Not everything accurate, Not everything accurate. Um,
Speaker 1: the car, the Carter really existed, The Carter really existed.
Speaker 1: The car still there. Carter is still spooky if you
Speaker 1: actually walked by that the Carter. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: it called the graad? Okay, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was called the car. But it's still there. It's still
Speaker 1: in the hall. It's still it's still still in the hall.
Speaker 1: So what's your relationship with fell I for he don't
Speaker 1: gave me some good advice. I only I only linked
Speaker 1: up with him like three or all time, but like
Speaker 1: for real, really important, like in the Long Beach trajectory. Wow,
Speaker 1: because I think what he was doing with Snoop and
Speaker 1: what he did like what ice cream, like he was
Speaker 1: just doing a t K. Well, is this dude named
Speaker 1: Terry Kennedy and t K like a real nigger. So
Speaker 1: like the fact he picked him up and like he
Speaker 1: from Long Beach. Yeah, Team Black Mike. Mike passed though,
Speaker 1: and he was Terry Lion online terror. That was a
Speaker 1: TV ship though. That was he really long, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he was freil came down there like he helped some
Speaker 1: real dude the Long Beach skateboarding and big a Long
Speaker 1: Beach all life like. It ain't never been like just
Speaker 1: everybody doing type thing. But yeah, that was for a
Speaker 1: got a really important place, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of hard song buard broth, are you very important? That's
Speaker 1: why out of all the West Coast dudes right that
Speaker 1: I've ever heard, you know, with Tupac didn't come out.
Speaker 1: I think the only two people that I've ever heard
Speaker 1: say Tupac from New Bottommore, it's you and Whack one Hunter.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not fair to take that out his story,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, if you if you
Speaker 1: think about where he comes from, his parents, we can't
Speaker 1: talk about his mother being a black panther and all
Speaker 1: these other things. And I think about where she was
Speaker 1: doing these things. So how are you gonna just pick
Speaker 1: the parts of the you know, of course he say
Speaker 1: he safe from but he keeps supports and claims California's
Speaker 1: Cerntheiny just same way Corrupt claim Philadelphia in n l A.
Speaker 1: But if you act corrupt about if they just took
Speaker 1: Philadelphia away from corrupt, I'm pretty sure he would be offended.
Speaker 1: So when you think about Tupac from Baltimore and going
Speaker 1: to New York and Baltimore and Marine City, you feel
Speaker 1: me and then hanging uplom but really living in Marine
Speaker 1: City and helping being to being an important part of
Speaker 1: you know, hip hop at that point, take away his
Speaker 1: digital underground ever, which a lot of people don't mention.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. That's I just don't like
Speaker 1: miss leaving nothing out because he ain't here to say
Speaker 1: what he want us to leave out. So you know,
Speaker 1: you don't know what he was doing, and you know
Speaker 1: he was working with Jada Pinket Smith or something like
Speaker 1: that out there, Like that's clearly an important part of
Speaker 1: his life, you know what I'm saying, Like that, Tupac
Speaker 1: is the only guy who has a record about New York.
Speaker 1: When he's talking about Skelly, he's talking about you know,
Speaker 1: Baggy G. She's talking about all the New York ship
Speaker 1: And I believe in one million per cent but then
Speaker 1: I also believe California love. But but that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like you gotta think the I think he was creating
Speaker 1: a real time. He wanted people that I was creating
Speaker 1: things in real time to save music changed so much
Speaker 1: because he was changing. He was trying to find his
Speaker 1: footing in certain ways. So since he was finding his footing,
Speaker 1: I think it's important to like to show the hole.
Speaker 1: We are talked about having the whole story, and I'm
Speaker 1: telling about truth and that's part of his story. And
Speaker 1: that's probably the reason that he created the way that
Speaker 1: he did, because I'm pretty sure it wasn't no niggas
Speaker 1: out in Oakland or no niggas on the country just
Speaker 1: hanging out trying to write poems like it was when
Speaker 1: he was hanging out. Because I feel like I've spent
Speaker 1: some time in New York and it's like I feel
Speaker 1: like creativity is more on the forefront out there than
Speaker 1: it is out here. Like a like if you even
Speaker 1: take something sim was a graffitio said, our ship compared
Speaker 1: to y'all ship is like completely different based on gang
Speaker 1: like but that but even when it's not like even
Speaker 1: if even even the people even the people from California
Speaker 1: who are are are bigger. The city artists have tax
Speaker 1: in New York, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: New York York. So I think I think those are
Speaker 1: important things that lets the point out. I think I think, um,
Speaker 1: I think New York and Callie really compliments each other,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like like being from
Speaker 1: New York and having to uh you know, go through
Speaker 1: these winners and they happen to go to the California
Speaker 1: and to adapt to that. I think those two states
Speaker 1: when you when you're from that it really makes who
Speaker 1: you are, Like if you could adapt to both environments,
Speaker 1: but the way Pocket adapted or something totally different, because
Speaker 1: like you said, you said, you said, um, I'm from
Speaker 1: they from the hood, which or they're from that set
Speaker 1: which when we say we from, we only mean where
Speaker 1: we were born and what we what we were. When
Speaker 1: you say a person is from that's a that's a
Speaker 1: gang that they actually because of the first it could
Speaker 1: be from cross the city. But if they're on the
Speaker 1: role in the sixties, they're from the roll in the sixties.
Speaker 1: Is that because that the way it's like, it's like,
Speaker 1: so yeah, man, these niggas that's from hoods that they
Speaker 1: ain't even grow up in. Like I know dudes who
Speaker 1: grow up in a long beach with us, but their
Speaker 1: dad's is from Conference, so they're from their dad's neighborhood exactly.
Speaker 1: They from there. So it's like it's just a different dynamic.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, they do compliment each other well,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's something that we, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of overlooked. You know a lot of the
Speaker 1: time when you think about Ice Cubes connections with you know,
Speaker 1: his first when you think about sucking uh l cool,
Speaker 1: they're going back to CALLI shouting out, been a shoutline
Speaker 1: crib like on the bridge of his hit single, Like,
Speaker 1: there's certain things that you know, it's it's some really
Speaker 1: good connectivity for him because it's like, um with Prodigy.
Speaker 1: I'm in with Prodessy for a long time in this
Speaker 1: in a in a Queen's thing. Prodacy also always kind
Speaker 1: of admitted to him not being from Queen's Bridge, but
Speaker 1: admitted to him adapting it from Queen's Bridge. But the
Speaker 1: people that what's really from his neighborhood really kind of
Speaker 1: forgave him from that, like like to the Dying Day.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you guys from l A as serious? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's what California. So this is one thing though
Speaker 1: Also I feel like, you know a lot of that
Speaker 1: comes from, you know, this conformity type thing, like I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to cut Yorks even me. When my first record
Speaker 1: came out was l A l A. And they kept
Speaker 1: saying the Queen's Bridge Group, and like everyone from our
Speaker 1: neighborhood was like, why the fund you keep letting them
Speaker 1: call you the queens Bridge Group? Like I would have
Speaker 1: control over fucking Dottie citizens or that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's it's a market sing that
Speaker 1: since the end of the day. Like whenever when I
Speaker 1: put out ship, be like, oh the Los Angeles rapper
Speaker 1: I was saying, but it's like and it's to bother me,
Speaker 1: but it's like they don't know no difference. Like bron
Speaker 1: I took a pitch. I haven't been on like press shure,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, you want to throw up like
Speaker 1: a w And I will never do that ship in
Speaker 1: my life. It's like, oh, why that made something different?
Speaker 1: Where I live back, I can get mad or I
Speaker 1: can just you know, explain it a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's a ganging is that's not
Speaker 1: you know, that's not tending the truth. But you gotta
Speaker 1: think they're trying to make their little money. So if
Speaker 1: they were, it's not that they ashamed probably for the
Speaker 1: most part, probably trying to get in where they fan
Speaker 1: may more proper to how different with the record straight
Speaker 1: up the Compton be if if if Ice Cube said
Speaker 1: they straight out and I'm not so he don't sound
Speaker 1: crazy like you know what I mean? It was on
Speaker 1: music like you know Dr Dre We all know he's
Speaker 1: like he's a musician. He wasn't know, like super duper
Speaker 1: gangster like he went up to drifting ice cu No.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying this is, you know, like you
Speaker 1: know an ice Cube was' from like Dr Drake wasn't from.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a gangster or whatever. You dude. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like but they don't take away from what they created, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So what they created stand
Speaker 1: the test of time, and they changed the world. Who
Speaker 1: fucking cares? You know what I mean, They didn't hurt nobody,
Speaker 1: real talk, real motherfucking talk. Le's make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: Go on, I'm gonna take a shot. Hold on taking
Speaker 1: a shot. No, no, I'm listening. Man. You're a fan
Speaker 1: of brust bring stick with thunder Road. How you watching
Speaker 1: eighties movies with white people and ship? But all like
Speaker 1: back to the Future and she's like back to the future.
Speaker 1: What else? I like watching white people work hard? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Anytime white people gotta work for something,
Speaker 1: like I support that. I don't like wh white people
Speaker 1: doing good and moving like Farrish doing the day off
Speaker 1: like I hate Ship like that. Okay, yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: playing hockey with school. Yeah, okay, let's thick up another
Speaker 1: movie with white people school and he got shot in
Speaker 1: his back. Bro, beautity stole a car, didn't go to
Speaker 1: jail or none of that. Come on, bro, that's not cool.
Speaker 1: And I didn't you say on one of your rhymes
Speaker 1: you shot somebody with the Ricky the gun that Ricky shot. Look, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta say it was a lot of stuff and said, okay,
Speaker 1: and if you offended, I'm sorry. But wow wow. So
Speaker 1: like what other movies that white people struggling? I want
Speaker 1: to watch these two man Runner bla Runner Day was
Speaker 1: doing bad. One of the Matrix the Matrix State was
Speaker 1: even Porridge Ship, the Purge Hardball with Keanu Reeves. He
Speaker 1: got packed out in the bar. Oh yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: ship with Little little Man, my nigga baby for me. Yeah. City.
Speaker 1: So later documentary definitely not white. That white woman was
Speaker 1: she had good. That white lady was good. She was
Speaker 1: getting trained. Yeah, she got trained, pretty pretty woman. That's
Speaker 1: not that's not how that works. Like why why is
Speaker 1: that a movie? That's not how that is? Like the Hook,
Speaker 1: the Hook, the hook of marries. I'm not married the guy.
Speaker 1: But she gets she gets the whole became a housewod. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not cold, bro Like, I'm not with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch one of these type of movies and
Speaker 1: that episode. I'm just just white people just getting getting
Speaker 1: the white with ship the whole movie. And you said
Speaker 1: you like Black to the you don't like I love
Speaker 1: Back to the Future. Okay, but Marty Mayfly got it
Speaker 1: out the mud bron say you have to go save
Speaker 1: the world. You know what? You know what, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm changing the subject a little bit. You don't remember
Speaker 1: when Dave Chappelle went back in time and to be
Speaker 1: the pimps and did you play they don't know to play?
Speaker 1: Remember they ripped the masters? Yeah yeah, yeah, Like think
Speaker 1: that should be a whole movie. Like look that, you
Speaker 1: know how the brothers be Like if I was a slave,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been out there, Like I want to
Speaker 1: put those brothers back in that time and how they
Speaker 1: asked me. Ship is not built for that slavery. The
Speaker 1: nigs strong back then. Man, you ever thought you ever
Speaker 1: thought hip hop making this walk? I didn't see the beginning,
Speaker 1: and I think that's I think that's like you gotta think.
Speaker 1: My whole life ain't nothing been important but like rappers
Speaker 1: and you know, R and B was already there, like
Speaker 1: I brought until I got I didn't really know what
Speaker 1: pop music was. I'm not exaggerate. I didn't when I
Speaker 1: grew up. I don't know what InSync was. I don't
Speaker 1: know backs people, I don't know. No, I don't know
Speaker 1: no Britney Spears, No, none of that ship meant nothing
Speaker 1: to me. The biggest no, I don't know, not that
Speaker 1: it's like you got you got me, you gotta Beyonce, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all you got sucking. Uh you know, it was just
Speaker 1: even down to like funing. I grew up like flavor
Speaker 1: lovers on TV. I've never seen the real world. I
Speaker 1: was my family black is like, don't know black ship,
Speaker 1: So I don't know nothing outside of hip hop. But
Speaker 1: when you think about, you know, how resilient black people
Speaker 1: live in how resilient like people from these communities are
Speaker 1: in general, like even even even outside of racially like
Speaker 1: our environment, you know that we've created that we know,
Speaker 1: even a lot of other people to come into. You know,
Speaker 1: it's I could definitely see it because we're dealt with
Speaker 1: so much worse. But I don't know access to you know,
Speaker 1: get our voices out what I know access to you know,
Speaker 1: be really seen or her. So I could for shall
Speaker 1: see it happening right now. One thing I was scared
Speaker 1: of because I smoke a lot, was you got like
Speaker 1: a not of gold in hella, but you've got like
Speaker 1: a special in Hella. Oh yeah, I got. I got
Speaker 1: the high and heavy duty high power ship. I got
Speaker 1: the white one, and I got the blowing with the
Speaker 1: They change the colors a lot. But I like the
Speaker 1: way you describe it like it's drugs. Like it's like
Speaker 1: it's an access Like I've never heard nobody break down
Speaker 1: in heal, like my ship got better than my she
Speaker 1: should be real bad. I should I hued not be
Speaker 1: able to do Yeah, yeah I got wow. Yeah it
Speaker 1: feel be bad health. You know eating that dollar man
Speaker 1: you for twenty some years, but you know we're good now.
Speaker 1: So wow, you said, from eating what I was eating
Speaker 1: horrible brover doll, Like, wh we got that organic food cake?
Speaker 1: But really, so that's so I never knew that that
Speaker 1: you could eat. It's just a chip when your body
Speaker 1: knows what if I went along before I lived alone,
Speaker 1: the first of my name went down, So I wanted
Speaker 1: to Compton when we stay with my aunt and we
Speaker 1: live a car street from my from a from a
Speaker 1: US Nah, a fucking power plant. Okay, so it's like that.
Speaker 1: My doctor said that probably had lots of doing it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, not really eating good and
Speaker 1: ship like that. You know it would be hot, no
Speaker 1: ac no nothing, that's California, windows up and black ball.
Speaker 1: That in California got a lot of small so it's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that going to it. But once
Speaker 1: I changed my diet up, you know, I started doing
Speaker 1: a little bit ship a little bit better. I was
Speaker 1: able to be straight. So for people that don't know, like, like,
Speaker 1: what would you have to do change your diet? Like
Speaker 1: ship stops to stop you stop you like I ed sometimes,
Speaker 1: but like not as much I used to. Used to
Speaker 1: be like a cheeseburger, chili, cheese fries every day time
Speaker 1: and not nine seen at the winter snitchel, you feel
Speaker 1: me not not sent to McDonald's. You go, you're gonna
Speaker 1: you know, you got to the hood, so you got
Speaker 1: to my hood's. Um, I'm sorry you went too fast?
Speaker 1: What man, it's heat, don't worry about it. Don't work
Speaker 1: to see you. It's no, he went too fast. Hold on, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a seven eleven. It's just it's a hot dog.
Speaker 1: But they got the best she like fries like, not
Speaker 1: like pinks like, and they got the nine cents at
Speaker 1: the five for five. So it was me, my mom
Speaker 1: and my sister German because she was Germany from that. Yes,
Speaker 1: but no, it's like some regular ships. So he's got
Speaker 1: a five for five and he's had a ten for ten,
Speaker 1: so get ten ones for ten dollars. So it's me,
Speaker 1: my mom and my sister, my sister baby and my
Speaker 1: other sister. This is bolling on the but so it's
Speaker 1: like you feel me. Everybody get a chili burger and
Speaker 1: a chili cheese fire or two chili cheese dogs. So
Speaker 1: you can either to get a chili burger, a chili dog,
Speaker 1: or chili cheese fries. You can figure out what you'll do.
Speaker 1: I'm not really fucking with the hot dog like, so
Speaker 1: I would do the two chili don't do to get
Speaker 1: back the bass man that she is discuss it that
Speaker 1: ship wrapping plastic with it. Jack in the box muals
Speaker 1: of what Jack in the box too, But Jack in
Speaker 1: the box a little further down Cherry, So you start
Speaker 1: to walk to Jack in the box, Boon. We can
Speaker 1: hit the backstreet and walk to Jack in the Box
Speaker 1: by a little having the mouse. Or you can go
Speaker 1: to winnerste We gotta Winerstance or Rallies and the McDonald's
Speaker 1: all like Miss Jr. Not see in and Out a
Speaker 1: little bit further down on south Shore the border Lakewood.
Speaker 1: But you need a gun to go to that in
Speaker 1: and out. Ain't know back in the day. I'm young.
Speaker 1: I know when I was younger, So bullets wasn't just
Speaker 1: a thing back then like you have if you have
Speaker 1: fifteen bullets twenty bullis. I don't want to last you,
Speaker 1: so you can't be going to the wrong places. Remember
Speaker 1: Chris Rocks kid, the bullets should be expensive. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: in real life, I'll hung out. Will come up one time.
Speaker 1: And since that, I was going through every single day,
Speaker 1: like I was stopping on last year ago and just
Speaker 1: stopping and he looked at it was a whole different way.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm that's the seven eleven. He's like
Speaker 1: over the one, over the boy the laundry man. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm yeah, you tripped right. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like then then I stopped at Louisiana
Speaker 1: Fried Chicken and he like, you will see that, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't see the letters there because this is back
Speaker 1: in the days. And I'm like, I don't look at
Speaker 1: uh something and look and see it red and think
Speaker 1: that that's a sign. So I s with the God.
Speaker 1: I went to the seven eleven, like seven days. The
Speaker 1: seven days I was there. I needed to see the corruptions.
Speaker 1: The eighth of the ninth day, and you know, him
Speaker 1: and dads came out. They helped me down, but you know,
Speaker 1: I was busy and see him, but when I went
Speaker 1: to the same exact places I was going to, they
Speaker 1: were like, no, cause we can't do that because like
Speaker 1: you don't see. I looked, and I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: Louisiana Fried Chicken at the time was in red letters.
Speaker 1: So I was like, but I don't put two and
Speaker 1: two together like that. Like I don't look at graffiti
Speaker 1: and say, you know, because I'm Puerto Rican. So when
Speaker 1: I look at grafiti, I'm looking at the actual art
Speaker 1: to it, like I'm actually green. When it comes to that,
Speaker 1: I'm looking like, Okay, this says such and SuDS. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is great nuts, great nut Street. Okay, I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking gang Let's take it nine Old that's
Speaker 1: where they stay. Yeah, I'm not thinking. I'm to East
Speaker 1: l A. No, no, no, you'll be fine ether because
Speaker 1: the graffitia in East l A is crazy. Y'all love
Speaker 1: the graffitia like soop like over there, like when you
Speaker 1: get a little bit behind Burbank, like it's like a
Speaker 1: little tunnel that they'd be all in. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: a funny story about East l A real quickly. I
Speaker 1: did a movie with my friend Noel g Fast and
Speaker 1: Furious he's been fast and curious. I didn't do fast curious.
Speaker 1: Obviously the movie I don't want to name the movie
Speaker 1: because the movie is horrible. Um, but I did play
Speaker 1: the black guy fucked and I got killed, um because
Speaker 1: that's how matter. So um So, one day, uh we
Speaker 1: we you know, we we exchanged numbers this after the
Speaker 1: movie and he says, you know, boom boom, and you
Speaker 1: know we shoot the sh sai. Y'all be bringing my hood,
Speaker 1: he said, y'all bringing in my hood. And one day
Speaker 1: that I came back to l A and I'm saying, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know I'm out here, and He's like, you nor
Speaker 1: right now, I don't really want to bring you around
Speaker 1: there because even though your Puerto Rican, it might take
Speaker 1: a long time for people to identified that your Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: And right now there's a big wall going on, at
Speaker 1: least at the time with the blacks and um and
Speaker 1: the Mexicans. And he's basically saying, man, you look black.
Speaker 1: And then we didn't go. We didn't go. That's that's
Speaker 1: my story. And every time I have been to East
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, it's been on my own. I never really
Speaker 1: called h a person. Do you you wouldn't even check
Speaker 1: it in for what. Okay, okay, man, bro, don't do
Speaker 1: nothing wrong and you'd be all right. If you're pushing positivity.
Speaker 1: You say what's up to people? I don't. I never
Speaker 1: know security guard day in my life. Every I go everywhere. Wow,
Speaker 1: what's up? Bro? Oh yeah, hey, what's your name? Oh?
Speaker 1: Awful show? Bro? I was that it was at the
Speaker 1: chicken place, Like my homie got a chicken truck and
Speaker 1: he burnt out. So he only puts it in high
Speaker 1: pressure situations. So I pressure meaning the hood. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: always in a high pressure area. So we were somewhere
Speaker 1: it was that you said, high pressure. Gonna take that
Speaker 1: something cool of hood? Now this is just high pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all it is, high pressure situation. So Bow when
Speaker 1: Nigga walked up and just looking and in my hommie.
Speaker 1: So I look in at my homie go across the street.
Speaker 1: They trying to pull the car around. I'm like, star,
Speaker 1: look at the dude. So he just looked at him,
Speaker 1: like what's up? Bro? He was like, hey, is that
Speaker 1: is your name? Whoopy whoop? I'm like yeah, He's like hey, blood,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, hold on real quick. I'm like all right,
Speaker 1: nigga pull out his phone and call his son. He
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I need you to talk to about
Speaker 1: this whoopy. Don't don't you funk with him and I'll
Speaker 1: talk to something real quick. And it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: what if they get like flash on him and like
Speaker 1: be disrespectful or like, you don't know what that man
Speaker 1: was going through that day. You don't know what that
Speaker 1: meant to him. You know what that meant to a son.
Speaker 1: So my thing is like, all you gotta stick, you
Speaker 1: gotta stick body feel me if I'm if I'm on
Speaker 1: some you know, some cool ship now and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to know uplifted all these other things. You gotta be
Speaker 1: like that all the time. You can't be You can't
Speaker 1: pick a time to bang on somebody and pick when
Speaker 1: I first came out, when I would go to certain places,
Speaker 1: I would only catch a drama when I funked with
Speaker 1: their bitches and I used their drugs. If I didn't
Speaker 1: if I didn't use they drugs, if I ain't free,
Speaker 1: area in the world was a beautiful place. And also
Speaker 1: it's the way you move around like you feel me
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, especially for motherfucker
Speaker 1: like you like nine times out of ten when you're
Speaker 1: walking down street, somebody know you know, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's already enough, Like that's real. But
Speaker 1: if you got folksy somebody mugging blah blah, that that
Speaker 1: admiration and turn and then you know something wrong, So
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Yeah, that's one reason, like I never that's
Speaker 1: the reason why when we used to rob people in
Speaker 1: my hood, we used to always rob the cruise. We
Speaker 1: never robbed the dude. The game solong. You're not messing
Speaker 1: when nobody body like you're gonna come out with all
Speaker 1: these something's gonna happen. You know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 1: racking about that. I swear to guard. We said, have
Speaker 1: a set up, queen. She's just bringing people to the hood.
Speaker 1: And we would always say if the dude come by,
Speaker 1: his don't know, he deserves to leave us. Don't know,
Speaker 1: he just like he don't deserve to get it. But
Speaker 1: the dude who come in with the three other people
Speaker 1: told him to wait in the car. Damn people in
Speaker 1: the car. Now, now you're just roughing the environment exactly
Speaker 1: what You're like a gurue man. And if you would
Speaker 1: have stayed in Atlanta. A couple like six more months,
Speaker 1: you and tr might be in the run for the
Speaker 1: illis bourbage ever? Yeah they talked different out there. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but you got the word play to you not had
Speaker 1: that Atlanta ship like him and Killer Mike went to
Speaker 1: a straight different type of school. They had to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they went to like Frederick Douglas was a teacher when
Speaker 1: killing Mike. When killing Mike called me, I don't know
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Just ask yourself, like man,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you got you got that bourbage too, man,
Speaker 1: you got that burbage too. So the ops record what
Speaker 1: is the ops on the radar? You can call the cops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't even had it. That was even saw
Speaker 1: kids like, hey, I want you on the Black Panther
Speaker 1: soundtrack and he seen me the whole song and I
Speaker 1: just did the worst. He said, dude, do it from
Speaker 1: here to here. But I think a lot of that
Speaker 1: came from me doing that big Fish ureut prior because
Speaker 1: it's funny, like I had, I did the trailer all
Speaker 1: this other stuff and then they made the soundtrack. So
Speaker 1: you know, I like, I like to think that it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of uh, I kind of helped out a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, being on the project and having
Speaker 1: the trailer, you know, a lot A lot of it
Speaker 1: was to help the Black Panther go. You Black Panther
Speaker 1: to be the biggest movie in the world. I mean
Speaker 1: what we're saying, you have the biggest moving in the world. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know bouncing around, but one of my favorite
Speaker 1: joints besides North North and back back and all this
Speaker 1: other was uh fu n right, we ain't trying to
Speaker 1: funk up now. I really wish I had that as
Speaker 1: my theme song. And I was swear to God because
Speaker 1: it's like, now, tell me if I directed there, if
Speaker 1: I m understood this record wrong. Well, at one point
Speaker 1: me I was being for every club in New York City.
Speaker 1: Not a fact, it's I mean, I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: a rumor. This is a pure fact. This was why
Speaker 1: I discovered reggae thrown because I can only go to
Speaker 1: the Spanish clubs. They weren't. They weren't. So I just became,
Speaker 1: let's do this ship. That ain't mean that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Connection. I went fully never go four Retald,
Speaker 1: I went full Retald. Whents just true. So, um, what
Speaker 1: was I talking about damn. I was into it no
Speaker 1: before that, go for it if you win, So that
Speaker 1: would have been my song. I would have played to
Speaker 1: security guards that had my pictures band when they said
Speaker 1: you can't get in this club. I remember Punning one
Speaker 1: time told me to come to a party. I told Punt,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm bad, and Punt It's like, I'm Pune, There's
Speaker 1: no way you're bad. I said, I'm bad. So I
Speaker 1: actually went, this is how bad. I knew I was banned.
Speaker 1: I went, I left my key in the bends like running.
Speaker 1: This is because I knew they's gonna see me right away,
Speaker 1: so I had my hoodie on. As soon as they
Speaker 1: see me, they was like, you're better to keep the
Speaker 1: funk off this line and you're getting arrested. And I
Speaker 1: was like all right, cool, and I just left and
Speaker 1: then Punk goes to be like Punk goes like, yo,
Speaker 1: what the fun did you do? Why you ain't tell
Speaker 1: me you bad? So anyway, when I listened to Fund,
Speaker 1: it was like I would use that record to every
Speaker 1: secure like I ain't trying to funk up nothing, but
Speaker 1: we're trying to have a party. We tell a little dudes,
Speaker 1: stay over there, we're gonna be cool over here. We are,
Speaker 1: but if they come over, we trying to fuck up nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I interpret that correct. I mean yeah, I mean to me,
Speaker 1: that was a game making like you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'll tell you I was like game making. It's
Speaker 1: not even sending a change waiting for ship to happen,
Speaker 1: fives sitting the chance something to happen because you was paranoid.
Speaker 1: Then you got there. You've got the other three percent
Speaker 1: that's where some ship happens, to two percent where you're
Speaker 1: not paying a station nid like it ain't that just
Speaker 1: went to fast time righters. Just at and be careful
Speaker 1: blah blah. You you're taking a bullet in out the
Speaker 1: head over and over and over again. Walk into the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah you feel me, Oh, don't go over there, don't
Speaker 1: go over there, don't go over there. Five ers in
Speaker 1: that time, you know, somebody pump fake or something happening.
Speaker 1: It's just niggas be appearing all you see that car,
Speaker 1: You see that nigga ship that don't need to have.
Speaker 1: And then you got that little three percent of the
Speaker 1: time where you was right. Then it's got two percent
Speaker 1: of the time where you were slipping and that's when
Speaker 1: niggas died. What you gotta think, you don't. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: waking up every day what some people is but not,
Speaker 1: don't nobody hang out with the the motherfucker's waking up
Speaker 1: every day burnt out, trying to hurt somebody. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like for no reason. Of course there's something happened this
Speaker 1: then it's provoked. But you gotta think that's that's that's
Speaker 1: something happened. It only happens so many times, and niggas
Speaker 1: be like, oh man, oh a hundred fifty people got
Speaker 1: shot in southern in Los Angeles. Uh, this in in
Speaker 1: this summer. But it's like that's a lot of people
Speaker 1: with It's five million people in California and I mean
Speaker 1: in l A County. Excuse me. So it's like you,
Speaker 1: it's not as negative as motherfucker's how to make it. See,
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to my name buns literally on life. You know,
Speaker 1: if something happened, then there's something happening. But if not,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's trying to have a good time. We're cool, man,
Speaker 1: Black people. Cool people are cool. We're trying to hang out.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the new album. Yeah, man ship
Speaker 1: just you know, I kind of making it simple again.
Speaker 1: You feel me like I had a recorded a lot
Speaker 1: last year, you know, you know, you record all these
Speaker 1: songs just to use the last quantis. Yeah yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like it was kind of at the end, So
Speaker 1: I recorded all year doing quarantine, like going into quarantine.
Speaker 1: We're recording a lot. We record a hunt as a
Speaker 1: song the features, Yeah, no we're not not now no,
Speaker 1: Now you can do what you can do it the
Speaker 1: better way to where it's like on the artist and
Speaker 1: it's just like featuring on the song time said, we're
Speaker 1: doing that. I forgot what it's called, but it's some
Speaker 1: ship that got going on, you know technology. Other than that,
Speaker 1: it's just me just wrapping you know, ten songs. And
Speaker 1: this is independent now that this n so independent, but
Speaker 1: you own the company, Yes, yes, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: our company, Blacksmith. We uh we we basically just create.
Speaker 1: They don't bother, you know what I'm tuning out to
Speaker 1: really say it. But it ain't like we ain't having
Speaker 1: no means, ain't no ship like that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Ethelpia is you know, perfect at just letting
Speaker 1: you do what you want to do and then telling
Speaker 1: you how, what's how it's gonna work within what you're
Speaker 1: trying to do, Like it's all based on your expectations.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's simple over there. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm this, It's it's simple. We make it simple.
Speaker 1: Are you happy? Oh? Yeah? Man? My things like do
Speaker 1: you know the crazy about I've been happy. I was
Speaker 1: a happier deft year because even I don't care how
Speaker 1: the music ship going. Bro, Like when you know, when
Speaker 1: you know, we had the situation in front of my
Speaker 1: house and somebody had somebody had lost their life and
Speaker 1: we had we was fighting that little case for whatever
Speaker 1: I happened with it, and that's when I got my deal.
Speaker 1: So how can I be mad at them when they
Speaker 1: But it's also like, man, you gotta be grateful. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't care if five thousand people listen to him music.
Speaker 1: It's nig someone right now with not one person checking in.
Speaker 1: So it's like I can do I can change the
Speaker 1: world with him five thousand people bumping my music and honey,
Speaker 1: people bumping my music. I figure it out because that's
Speaker 1: what I do. So I'm grateful for whatever situation not gone.
Speaker 1: I don't you know what I'm saying. I'm not looking
Speaker 1: at a label like, oh man, make me this and
Speaker 1: make me that. Give me what I got and let
Speaker 1: me know what's real, and I'm gonna work with it.
Speaker 1: You feel me. You're gonna lead a single? One for
Speaker 1: this one? Yeah? I got? I got? Uh? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I did the video for the song called a Lot
Speaker 1: of Averages. Then uh I got put all of average
Speaker 1: and love of averages and that's pretty much it. Like
Speaker 1: singles now, it's like ship you know, put out whatever
Speaker 1: kind of helps set the palette for the visual. You
Speaker 1: make great bodies of work exactly. You know it's not me,
Speaker 1: you see me. So I'll just do what I do
Speaker 1: and you know, go from there. Did you make music
Speaker 1: for sinking in this one or not? No, I'll just
Speaker 1: shooting at the house because I'm at the point now
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make my own show, So I'll make
Speaker 1: a do that. You know, you put your own music
Speaker 1: exactly on future. Was that made to sink somewhere? No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't made to sink, But I think that got
Speaker 1: a couple of things to that because like that was
Speaker 1: a combination I didn't see coming. Well, yeah, what happened
Speaker 1: was so that it was a part of that song,
Speaker 1: this song called Covering the Money, and it was a
Speaker 1: part son of that. I was just that song a lot,
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to utilize that part of the
Speaker 1: song as the hook. So we asked him and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's cool. I know. So I appreciate
Speaker 1: him saying yeah, because that's now. I was early early, early,
Speaker 1: early on, like he ain't know how it was not him,
Speaker 1: and he just said, okay, So you know, I'm appreciative
Speaker 1: that shout out to say man and you shout out
Speaker 1: to them. How about you with Todd dollar Size, that's
Speaker 1: the hummy. Yeah, okayeah, I gotta I got. I got
Speaker 1: a good relationship with him. Must round and loose, you know,
Speaker 1: tied me around times of real musician to like Todd
Speaker 1: allar time is very underrated as hard so what he's
Speaker 1: brought to music and what he's capable of doing. He
Speaker 1: come from a real family, like he got a family
Speaker 1: like talented individuals like his grand pound down his real
Speaker 1: genius type dude. So dollar signe, my man. I want
Speaker 1: to tell you something. Man, I'm Todd dollar Sign. You
Speaker 1: helped me down at the time you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to do me help me, to help
Speaker 1: me down. You didn't have to come and bring me
Speaker 1: a Mustard beat like you know what I'm saying. Like, um,
Speaker 1: like I was sending him beasts. He didn't like the
Speaker 1: beaches I was sending it, but he wanted to do
Speaker 1: the record, so he went to Mustard Gotta be. I
Speaker 1: don't know how this worked, but I know that must
Speaker 1: have signed off on its good dudes, man, So I
Speaker 1: just wanted to know just case y'all don't know. I
Speaker 1: didn't never forget. I seen must of the other day
Speaker 1: or maybe like two years ago, and I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, I never forgot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I love you, you know what, because the other day
Speaker 1: it feels like two years ago. Two years ago feel
Speaker 1: like the other daycause of the pandemic, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I know he laughed, but it really
Speaker 1: does feel like that, you know what I mean. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but some Mustard, Todd Dollar Sign, you know,
Speaker 1: and even Rick Ross for jumping on that record because
Speaker 1: I was really cold at the time, and hey, I
Speaker 1: am with a Todd Dollar Sign record, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still a legend, but I'm cold, like
Speaker 1: being cold is cold, Like I don't want to stand
Speaker 1: next to us cold soup. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you know what I'm saying, Like no
Speaker 1: one wants that, you know what I'm saying. So um
Speaker 1: for Todd dollar Signe to be the first one to
Speaker 1: step up and say, you know what Nori, because I
Speaker 1: think he thought my heir was lost, which he probably
Speaker 1: was right to a certain extent. He's like, let me
Speaker 1: give you some young wave. Let me use something some
Speaker 1: young and he so he brung in mustard and mustard
Speaker 1: could easy. But like, I ain't with that. You made
Speaker 1: a deal with Nori, not me, and they both held
Speaker 1: me down, and I wanted to say, you know, that's
Speaker 1: the definition of how this is supposed to be, Like
Speaker 1: you know, older statesman with a younger statesman is supposed
Speaker 1: to and the young it's not always the oldest statesman teaching.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the older statesman listening and learning. And I
Speaker 1: had to listen and learn because you know, I was
Speaker 1: all a about just my camp, just with me working
Speaker 1: on Furst Off going on is Parrell Like I'm not
Speaker 1: getting a beat from someone else. So for me, I
Speaker 1: had to hum on myself first, like you know what
Speaker 1: Musty was coming up with. Mustery was hot and you know,
Speaker 1: but I really appreciated that that that that that commandity,
Speaker 1: that's what it's called. I really appreciated what they did
Speaker 1: because you know, they tried to beat me in today world,
Speaker 1: and which you're supposed to do. Like a collaboration. It's
Speaker 1: only a collaboration if you're my fans fun with you,
Speaker 1: and your fans smoke with me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a real collaboration. And I always say
Speaker 1: this because some fund up ship. The only two times
Speaker 1: I really felt like I collaborated in life was Reggae
Speaker 1: Throne and R Kelly I Sear the God like like
Speaker 1: that was the only time I felt like Kelly on
Speaker 1: a reggae tone. No no I different. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: First of all, Kelly shipped on me when I went
Speaker 1: to Man, when I went to later Verse, he was
Speaker 1: like go ahead. I was like, oh, Ship, We're like,
Speaker 1: I didn't acknowledge you didn't give me no five. So
Speaker 1: when I seen the bed rooms, I did it my
Speaker 1: mind in my mind that we're sending that some suit
Speaker 1: yo event to me to tell you something, man um
Speaker 1: Our Show is really about giving people they flowers. I
Speaker 1: know everyone else is using that phrase now, but we're
Speaker 1: the ones who made it famous. We're the ones that
Speaker 1: came out and said, you know what, there's so many
Speaker 1: other outlets for you know, the new artists, the artists
Speaker 1: that haven't put it in the work and haven't put
Speaker 1: it in the time. So we didn't wanna um follow
Speaker 1: suit with that. We wanted to create our own platform
Speaker 1: where our legends and people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You've been down to two thousand and eight. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You've been doing your your motherfucking homework.
Speaker 1: You know about hip hop, your lyricist. You're a guy
Speaker 1: who makes great bodies of work. You do phenomenal videos,
Speaker 1: and you need to be praised, you know what saying.
Speaker 1: You need to get me giving your flowers, and I'm
Speaker 1: proud of My whole team is proud to give you
Speaker 1: those flowers because you are a staple in the hip hop,
Speaker 1: not just your name. You know what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: are a staple in hip hop. You belong. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and you make people like me proud.
Speaker 1: You make people like me who who Where I started
Speaker 1: this game, the war report was all about lyrics, That's
Speaker 1: all it was about. And then I then I started,
Speaker 1: you know, meeting girls, and I said lyrics and said,
Speaker 1: what white? What the lyric to that? That was just
Speaker 1: straight to the point. So but you know, but you
Speaker 1: make people like me proud. You make people you know,
Speaker 1: like Nah's proud. You know, people that's like real pure
Speaker 1: uh lyricists, and the fact that you're keeping their lives,
Speaker 1: and the fact that you make pure great bodies of work.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. Like when I if
Speaker 1: I tell somebody to recommend listening to you to Bench Staples,
Speaker 1: I don't say listening to fund I say, listen to
Speaker 1: the whole album, listen to big Fish. I say, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: listen to Ben Staples. I say the whole thing. Because
Speaker 1: that's how much you you mean, that's how ill you
Speaker 1: are in this game. So in case I've never told
Speaker 1: you that, I want to tell you that to your face.
Speaker 1: I want to give your flowers, want to tell you
Speaker 1: how much you mean to us, and I will expect
Speaker 1: you so much. This is like this first or second time.
Speaker 1: I didn't take a drink. Yeah, I didn't take a drinker.
Speaker 1: I can't take I said, you know what I said.
Speaker 1: I want to get on his level. I want to
Speaker 1: be on I am. I'm still smoking you know that part.
Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to stop. But I appreciate you
Speaker 1: for coming by. If everyone the album is out right now,
Speaker 1: t Vence Table type Vince Tables go get us a
Speaker 1: double long contra. Motherfucker is going down, motherfucker drink Chance.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my pa dropping we go. Thanks
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