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Speaker 2: So Brandon and Ayuk scribes his contract whatever. I saw

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Speaker 2: I think Brandon Ayuke's really good. I think him and

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Speaker 2: And he was traded. So I think Ayuk falls into

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Speaker 2: The market has been set. This is your deal now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's an extra year on top of that, but

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Speaker 2: you want to go to one of those spots badly,

427
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: or the Bears to decide to not go D line

428
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: or I don't know what tight end or whatever and

429
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: take you. You want to go to Chicago, which is

430
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: crazy to say. You never would have said that for years. Holdouts,

431
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: and you know, we have seen some high end players

432
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: over the last several years hold out or hold in,

433
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 2: And I never have an issue when you are elite

434
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: doing what is best for you. But not all holdouts

435
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: are equal. TJ Watt held in. Understand he's easily their

436
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: best player. He's actually underpaid right now, and he's like, listen,

437
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm not taking a fucking real snap until we get

438
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: this contract done. Nick Bosa, unlike TJ, didn't even show up.

439
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: My guys, what are we talking about here? Chris Jones

440
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: watched Week one with the two mafioso's in Arrowhead. It's like, guys,

441
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: we got to get this done. Totally understand where those

442
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald in the past, Khalil Mack totally get it.

443
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: Totally understand. Then there's some players that kind of flirt

444
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: with It's like, eh, I don't know. I remember Deebo

445
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: was kind of doing. It's like Devo, you're damn good,

446
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: but come on, man. And the forty nine ers are like, Deba,

447
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: you better show up. You want to get this contract.

448
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: We need you here. You're not Jerry Rice buddy, And

449
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: he ended up showing up and they got something done.

450
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb justin Jefferson. Totally get it. They are worth

451
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: in this new world thirty plus a year, eighty five

452
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: to one hundred guaranteed. I mean that is I don't

453
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: care how rich they already are. That is how many

454
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: CEOs in America sniff that type of money. It's a

455
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: lot of coin. Totally get it. Two is interesting though,

456
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: because to his value to his team. He's a starting

457
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: quarterback on a team that's made the playoffs last couple years.

458
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: He's solid, like, okay, time to get paid, but paid

459
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: what And to credit to Tua Tongka vy Looa, He's like,

460
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up. I'm not skipping anything. I'm not

461
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: going to make this a mess. Because one o the

462
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: things Tua hangs his hat on is not like these

463
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: superb elite traits. It's like, you really can't live without me.

464
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: We can't because can you imagine if they start their

465
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: off season program and he's nowhere to be found a

466
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: couple weeks before the draft. Listen, they're already having the

467
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: conversation because that's what you do during the draft of like,

468
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: you know, maybe we should look a little harder at

469
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: PANICX and Bo Nicks and some of these other cats

470
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: high in the draft. Why even give him that ability

471
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: to think extra about that? Show up? Hang your hat

472
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: on your character. I've said forever if I'm the Dolphins,

473
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: I play this out no matter what I do. Not

474
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: do a contract extension this year. If he can't prove

475
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: that he can be, you know, a top ten quarterback,

476
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: we have absolutely no chance to ever win this division.

477
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: Zero because you're already playing the second best quarterback in

478
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: the NFL in the prime of his career. That's not

479
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: going to change. He's never going to be better than

480
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. We all agree to that, but like, can

481
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: you help elevate this team this year to a division championship?

482
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: Because if you do, then listen, we'll give you whatever

483
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: more money than we want to, but if you can't, Like,

484
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: how can I look in the mirror and feel good

485
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: about signing it just because you got it? That feels

486
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: like an NBA contract And let's face it, seventy five

487
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: percent of the big NBA contracts are disasters teams don't

488
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: really want to do. It's like, wow, we got it.

489
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: We're not going to get anything back for him. How

490
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: we upgrade? It's like, it's easy thing to say when

491
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: you're the seventh seed and you get bounced in the

492
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: first round. You have an extra forty five million dollar

493
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: player that we all agree is not worth that because

494
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: of his impact on winning. Like, to me, you're worth

495
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: as a professional athlete is like your impact on winning,

496
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, TJ Watt, Right, you just go around like

497
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: these guys impact on Aaron Donald on winning is hard

498
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: to quantify because they're the heartbeat of my squad. They're

499
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: obviously one of the best players in the league. But

500
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: what they mean to my team? Does Tua like, is

501
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: he replaceable? Listen? I know the way these draft rooms work.

502
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: You have these conversations. Belichick was having this conversation about

503
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: Tom Brady in twenty fourteen. You better believe they're having it.

504
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: You don't want to give them any reasons for that

505
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 2: conversation to go too far. Some other things around the NFL,

506
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: the Jets are bringing in Brock Bowers for a visit.

507
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: One thing I've heard is there's a lot of buzz

508
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: in the NFL about that being the pick. Now, should

509
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: that be the pick? I don't know, but I'd have

510
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: a hard time killing them if they did that. Should

511
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: they take an offensive lineman? I mean, they got two

512
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: guys on one year contract playing left and right tackle. Now,

513
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: maybe he gets a little gun shy because the last

514
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: time he took a tackle high. Let's face it, it was

515
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: a pretty big disaster in Becton. But I don't know.

516
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they're all in. It's one of

517
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: those positions where you know, as a team and as

518
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: a front office, if we don't win ten plus games

519
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: to get a wild card, we're all getting fired. It's over,

520
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: let's face it. We all would have been fired last

521
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: year if it wasn't for Aaron forty years old, hurting

522
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: his achilles. But if we had underwhelm last year, it

523
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: would have been a disaster. That happens again. Whether he's

524
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: healthy whether he's not healthy. If we don't go above

525
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: five hundred and make a wild card, we're fucked, just

526
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: that simple. So does this guy give us a better

527
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: chance next year? And we just keep our fingers crossed

528
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: that none of these offensive lineman get hurt. I wonder

529
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: if they're seriously having that conversation now, is that the

530
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: smart thing to do when all these guys have injury histories.

531
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses, for the most part, has been pretty durable.

532
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: I think he missed some games last year. Obviously, Tyron

533
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Smith has been in and out of the lineup for

534
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: years now. Farah Tucker, the guy they drafted high who

535
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: is a good player, has been injured a lot. You know,

536
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: It's just it's a tough decision, and these are these

537
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: are the hard things to balance, right, it's so easy,

538
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: And listen, we're all gonna do it. And when the

539
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: draft comes, I'm gonna hammer this like, do you take

540
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: the best player available, don't force a need? Sometimes though,

541
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: the best player available if he's gonna help us out

542
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: way more over the course of the next five years,

543
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: and I don't know I'm going to be there, changes

544
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: your decision making, It just does. So I think it's

545
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: gonna be fascinating with the jetsuit there. The other thing

546
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 2: is the Patriots are bringing in JJ McCarthy. The betting

547
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: lines now, Jayden Daniel is a pretty heavy favorite to

548
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: be the number two overall pick. Patriots a little bit

549
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: of a wild card because we don't know Gerrod Mayo

550
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: and Elliott Wolf what they will do. They've never ran

551
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: a franchise. But I wonder if they're going back and

552
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: forth like who should we take? And I do wonder

553
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: if they get to the point where Drake has a

554
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: much higher ceiling. You know my stance always swinging for

555
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: the fences, and JJ, while a much better prospect than

556
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: mac Jones, does have some similarities, does have some similarities

557
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: right played on the best team in college football by

558
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: a mile, and there's a lot of risks there. His

559
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: physical gifts are solid, not elite. Again, I'm not I

560
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: would rather have JJ McCarthy coming out of college than

561
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: Mac Jones every day of the week and fifty times

562
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: on Sunday. But he's closer to mac Jones than he

563
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: is to the high end guys in the NFL in

564
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: terms of being a prospect, and I wonder if that's

565
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: where if they do stick and take a quarterback at three,

566
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: which they should if that's who they end up picking.

567
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: And then the other thing was Chris Ballard extended Buckner.

568
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: No one loves extending his own guy. Now, Buckler's a

569
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: really good players, made a bunch of Pro Bowl since

570
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: they got him, super high character guy, the type guy

571
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: that every team wants. But God does he love extending

572
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: his own guys. I mean, he lives for it. And

573
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: it's all gonna come down to Anthony Richson. It's if

574
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: he's healthy and good, they're gonna be a problem. If

575
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: he's banged up again, it's gonna be a little more difficult.

576
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: I know, Joe flaccol that's a magic last year, but

577
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: I'd be a little stunned if Anthony Richardon got hurt

578
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: and then the Colts were just good with Joe Flacco.

579
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect Flack would have back to back years.

580
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: I had to take another team to the playoffs and

581
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: just you know, I retired, went to my couch, driving

582
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: my kids to school, got a call mid season, went

583
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: to the Browns. Resurrected my career. The Browns couldn't keep

584
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: me because you know the shadow I would cast over

585
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: to Shaun Watson. The Colts called me because I know

586
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: Shane Steichen went there, kicked ass again. Anthony Richardson got hurt,

587
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: won seven of ten games after he got bounced, and

588
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: you know, we're just the we're the sixth seed. I'd

589
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: probably bet against that. So it all comes down to

590
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, which is one of the great unknowns in

591
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: the NFL. I have no clue, You have no clue.

592
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: They have no clue. But that's what makes sports fun.

593
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: Like how this whole bad boy is gonna play out? Okay,

594
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: let's get to a little tangent Tuesday. I've been really

595
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: hard on this guy because I think he's a terrible commissioner,

596
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: and I think Adam Silver is a big reason that

597
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: the NBA's fallen off a cliff. He's one of the

598
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: softest leaders in the history of America. For any billion

599
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: dollar industry, the tanking, the load management is just an embarrassment,

600
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: and the consumer has disappeared. The n season tournament I

601
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: thought was stupid. The ratings reflected it. Nobody watched. They

602
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: claimed that ratings were up. Ethan Strauss did to break

603
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: down they were down over the course in the last

604
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: five years because they were just regular season games. I

605
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 2: give them, I guess, some credit for trying something different,

606
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: but no one's going to care about an in season,

607
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: regular season tournament. Nobody inside people that cover the NBA

608
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: that all said it was sweet. I didn't watch, and

609
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: I represent the majority of sports fans because we saw

610
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: the television ratings. I do think the playing games, if

611
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: it breaks the right way, are pretty sweet, because a

612
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: lot like an NFL playoff game or Mark Bradness, it's

613
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: like Winter go Home, like Winter go Home in the

614
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: playing game for what a regular season game in like

615
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: three more days. It's not Winter go Home. This is

616
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: all fake. But this playing tournament, when you get the

617
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: Lakers and the Warriors, is a really big deal because

618
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: in a league that struggles to get eyeballs on a

619
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: lot of random good teams, like no one's paying attention

620
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: to Minnesota or okay, see on the masses, the Lakers

621
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: and the Warriors moved the needle. Now, if David Sarton

622
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: was running the NBA, I saw Shaq said this the

623
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: other day. He gave a story on his podcast how

624
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: like twenty five years ago he sat down at a

625
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: bar and this guy looked at him and was like,

626
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: you shouldn't sit next to me. And the guy's like why,

627
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm one of the biggest sports betters in America.

628
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: Shack's like, I don't get shit. So Shaq started talking

629
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: to him. He's like, you ever get players on the payroll?

630
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, you guys make too much money. I can't.

631
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: He's like, but we got all the refs, and I've

632
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: always said, you know, basketball historically has been pretty corrupt

633
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: in terms of that. I mean, of course, how could

634
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: you not get a referee? If you make two hundred grand,

635
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: it's pretty easy for me to offer you seventy five

636
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: grand do something that's forty percent of your income. Just basic,

637
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: basic numbers. Just do the math where if a guy

638
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: makes thirty million dollars, it's hard to get that guy

639
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: to risk anything. These playing games, though, are interesting when

640
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: you get the right brands. Sixers are in a game,

641
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: the Warriors are in a game, the Lakers are in

642
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: a game. So this is the one thing I will

643
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: give the guy credit on during his tenure that has

644
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: mostly been a disaster. A couple other quick tangents the Masters,

645
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: which is probably I mean the top two or three

646
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: most exclusive golf club out in America in the world.

647
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: They allow the media to play. It's like a lottery

648
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: system the day after the Masters, so today a bunch

649
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: of people in the media got to play Augusta. It's

650
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: like a lottery system, and you never know who's gonna

651
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: win a lot like trying to get tickets. It's all lottery.

652
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: And this woman who works for one of the local

653
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: stations I think in Georgia won the draw. But here's

654
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: the kicker. She's never ever played golf, which on most

655
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: courses whatever, go out there and have a good time.

656
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: I would say, Now, I haven't seen what she shot,

657
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: which I would imagine she's not finishing half the holes.

658
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: You should probably give your spot up, you know, if

659
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: you've never ever played golf, I don't think you should

660
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: take one of the lottery seats. I'd argue you should

661
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: have to have like an NCGA handicap to be able

662
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: to win the lottery. I don't exactly know how they

663
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: do that. Maybe they don't even care that much. I

664
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: if she actually ended up playing and took a spot

665
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: from people that actually play golf, I don't know. I

666
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 2: don't know about that one. And the other thing is last,

667
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: but not least is I don't know if you've seen

668
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: this Malbourne. It's this rich guy based in southern California.

669
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: He's like, got this new clothing, caname speak brand. Let

670
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: me be the first say I'm not that fashionable. I

671
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: just wear pretty basic clothes. I by no means and

672
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: like some fashionista hear. But Jason Day is a Melbourne golfer.

673
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Now he used to be Nike went to Melbourne because

674
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: a lot of these golf companies are like, you know,

675
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: we're not giving you ninety nine percent of you aren't

676
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: moving that many product, We're not giving you ten twenty

677
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 2: million dollars a year. So a lot of these guys,

678
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: if you notice, have gone to independent brands. They started

679
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: their own brands. Melbourne paid this guy some money. Now

680
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: he's got a following in Australia. Not a crazy play.

681
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: He played with Tiger Woods, who also has a new

682
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: brand someday Red, which I don't know, kind of stupid.

683
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't know at this point in time in Tiger's life,

684
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: if he's moving much product, I think it's probably the

685
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: right move for Nike. But Jason Day wore this vest

686
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: that many thought was pretty outrageous. Isn't that kind of fashion?

687
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: Isn't like fashion trends a lot different. Like one thing

688
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: for girls, anyone that has a wife or a girlfriend.

689
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: You know what is in right now for girls baggy pants,

690
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: baggy pants. I think it's kind of stupid, but that's

691
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: most people's reaction when a trend starts. Now Jason Day's

692
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: vest and he wore these really really baggy pants that

693
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: were like they weren't joggers, but they had elastic on

694
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: the bottom where you could tighten that he didn't, but

695
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: they're not like any other pants that you see out

696
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: during AUGUSTA. Most people in twenty twenty four are wearing tighter,

697
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: slimmer golf pants. His were outrageously baggy, something you would

698
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: see in like the mid nineties. But he wore this

699
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: vest that was just out of left field. Thought, yeah,

700
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: I guess my first reaction was like, God, that's kind

701
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: of stupid. But then again, like, who am I I

702
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: don't know fashion. You could show me a piece of artwork,

703
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's fifty thousand dollars. I think that

704
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: looks like crap. You just threw a bunch of shit

705
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: and paint up there and all of a sudden, you're

706
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: selling and that's that happens all the time. Well, Augustine

707
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 2: National made him take it off. There were rumors flying

708
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: around and then he confirmed it. They told him you're

709
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: not allowed to wear that, which I think is kind

710
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: of stupid, Like you should be able to wear. There

711
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: should be limits, like you can't go shirtless if you're

712
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: playing the tournament, like this is his brand. As he said,

713
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: I just wear what they give me. That's a pretty

714
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: big moment though, for the company, Like that's what you

715
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: need to do to get mentioned. I saw this clip

716
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: on Instagram about Liquid Death Forever. I either thought it

717
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: was an alcoholic drink or an energy drink, and then

718
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: I realized it's just water, just water in that can.

719
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: And I saw this Instagram clip where the guy that

720
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: started the company was like, we had no marketing dollars zero.

721
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: I had no money to market, so we were going

722
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: to put this stuff on the shelf. I needed a

723
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: way to move the needle. I didn't. And the only

724
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: way was I couldn't name it something normal. Because I

725
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: we named it something normal, no one would notice. But

726
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: if I named it something outrageous, people might be half

727
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: as half, you know, fifty percent more likely to pick

728
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: the thing up and then fifty percent more likely to

729
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 2: like post it on social media. And I started seeing

730
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: liquid death more and more, and it was kind of

731
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: organically happened. And the power of marketing is real. A

732
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, all anyone drank when it came

733
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: to the Seltzers were white claws. You saw white clause everywhere.

734
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: You know. All I see now pictures on social media

735
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: of people hanging out, people boozing, parties, high noons. Hell,

736
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm more inclined. I don't really like that stuff that much,

737
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: but if people are coming over, it's an easy drink

738
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: to sip. High Noon's the bye. What did they do?

739
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: They paid Portnoy, they paid some other people. It worked.

740
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna market, you can't just have normal clothes, right, Tigers,

741
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: collared shirt, Sunday, Red Grayson, all these random company, They

742
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: all kind of look alike. Melbourne looks like none of them.

743
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Might not be for me, but kind of see what

744
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: he's doing.

745
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's dive into the middle Cough mail bag, very

746
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: very easy to get involved at. John Middlecoff is the

747
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: Instagram fire in those dms. I have a question regarding

748
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: scouts and bias when scouting a college player. How much

749
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: does the setting, opposition, star players on their own team, skill,

750
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: level of opposition, big game versus homecoming, etc. Play into

751
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: the decision as opposed to pure technique and skill exhibited

752
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: As an example, potential third round pick Spencer Rattler throws

753
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: a ten yard out to a number three wide receiver

754
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: against LSU makes the play. Next week he throws the

755
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: same route versus Division two Hawaii State made that up.

756
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: I was like Hawaii State, I never heard of that

757
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 2: school and it falls incomplete. Does the scout get wowed

758
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: biased by the competition against the better opposition or do

759
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: they look at holistically like he only completes fifty percent

760
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: of his throws. How do scouts and the gms avoid

761
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: falling into the biases? I think anytime you're scouting a player, right,

762
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: let's use Spencer Rattler for example. You would watch him

763
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: against the best teams he plays, so off the top

764
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: of my head, I don't have South Carolina schedule. They

765
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: played Georgia every year, you would throw on that game.

766
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: They play Clemson every year, you would throw on that game.

767
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: They play Tennessee, you would throw on that game. If

768
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: I was a GM or scouting director, I probably wouldn't

769
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: even watch Hawaii State. That game doesn't matter. It's very,

770
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: very easy with the top programs Ohio State, Michigan, USC, Oregon, Bama, whatever,

771
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: because they're always going to be playing three or four

772
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: really really good teams. Now you have to do more

773
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: extensive research than just what you would watch other games

774
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: in the conference. But you don't need to watch them

775
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: against Hawaii State. Where I think against more difficult is

776
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: when there is a top prospect at Fresno State or

777
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Boise State or these programs that don't play a lot

778
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: of good competition. It's harder to judge it than I remember.

779
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: Giants fans will remember this name. Ramsey's Barden, big wide

780
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: receiver shattered Jerry Rice's records in D one double A.

781
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: He was at Cal paul when I was at cal Pauly.

782
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: He ended up going in the third round to the Giants.

783
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 2: But who the hell was he playing? And he wasn't

784
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: any good in the NFL and he played in a

785
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: triple option. That's a tough evaluation. Evaluating a guy at

786
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: South Carolina is not that hard because I have a

787
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: ton of other teams with NFL players I can watch

788
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: them against. So I think it's simply you just watch

789
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: them against top competition. Right, It's really easy to watch

790
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: evaluate Michael Pennix and Romadunze. You throw in the Oregon games,

791
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: you throw in the Michigan game, you throw in the

792
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: Texas game. Like you just watch them against the best teams,

793
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: throw in the Utah game. It's much harder to evaluate

794
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: good players at lower schools, non Power five schools, because like,

795
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: how many NFL guys are they going up against? So

796
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: that question good question, I would say relatively easy. Got

797
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: a question for the mailbag. This may seem insignificant, but

798
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 2: doesn't it tremendously help the Rams with Jimmy G signing,

799
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: think about it. Who knows the Niners and Shanahan game

800
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: plans for the Rams better than him? Wondering if the

801
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: unique insight that Jimmy would have could give the Rams

802
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: the icing on the cake to overcome their regular season

803
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: woes against the forty nine ers. I think the Rams

804
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: could make it the Super Bowl this year. It's a

805
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: good question. It doesn't hurt. I mean, I would say

806
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt at all. I think we overvalue that sometimes.

807
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: You know, coaches historically have been asked this question when

808
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: a guy they've had for a while or even during

809
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 2: training camp, signs with the team they're playing Week one.

810
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: You can only do so much. Now, there are specific

811
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: things that Kyle clearly does against the Rams that gives

812
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: them a lot of trouble that has been very, very

813
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: difficult for them to just neutralize. It's like whether the

814
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: Niners have been as good as them or not, or

815
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: bet or that they've just dominated them consistently. Cannot hurt?

816
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: He is suspended early, so I guess it would depend

817
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: when the games get scheduled because he won't be there early.

818
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: Good question, can't hurt? Can't hurt? I don't know if

819
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: it's the equivalent of like knowing their plays that are coming,

820
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: but it should benefit them for sure. I'd like to

821
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: hear thoughts on this. I think star tight ends are

822
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: proving to be a more valuable commodity amongst contending teams

823
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: than star wide receivers. I think since Bill got his

824
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: hands on Gronk and Hernandez personnel, folks started to realize

825
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: that the added utility of having what is basically an

826
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: extra offensive lineman that the defense has to also gain

827
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: plan for a weapon that can create huge personal mismatches

828
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: that your offense is able to take advantage of. Gronk

829
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: is an extra offensive lineman. Hernandez was a slot receiver.

830
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 2: But I hear what you're saying in some of these

831
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: you know, brock Bowers is not a blocking tight end.

832
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: I was listening to the Athletic podcast. They do a

833
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: good job on just breaking down draft guys, and there

834
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: was I think brock Powers on the line of scrimmage

835
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: to the rest of the tight ends in the country

836
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: was near the bottom. I mean, he's essentially a slot

837
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: wide receiver. So the mismatches, there are only so many

838
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: guys that are good players that are good blockers. Is

839
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: a laporta big time blocker like Kittle? The Gronks like

840
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: they're pretty rare. Kelsey doesn't really block. Mark Andrew is

841
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: a big blocker. What Goddard gives effort. Despite this, we

842
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: still see high end wide receivers making nearly double what

843
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: tight ends. What's a huge market inefficiency. If you get

844
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: a star tight end, he is dramatically cheaper Kittle Andrews.

845
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm probably blanking right now because out of the loop

846
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: a little bit in terms of just games going on

847
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: all the time. But Kittle, I mean, these guys make

848
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: so much less than star wide receivers, so there is

849
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: no disputing financially, if you get Sam Laporta and he

850
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: becomes a star, he's one of the best values in

851
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: the league star tight ends and the linebackers. If you

852
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: hit on a star linebacker, you don't have to pay him.

853
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: With a defensive end mix, he covers the tight ends

854
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: and makes fifteen tackles a game. Like Roquan Smith and

855
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: Frederick Warner get screwed because of their position. But from

856
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: a team standpoint, it's an incredible value. So yeah, I mean,

857
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: do you see teams putting more of a premium on

858
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: acquiring playing title. I think everyone wants a really good

859
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: tight end. I think they can be more difficult to evaluate,

860
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: and from what I've heard from my scouting buddies, this

861
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: isn't a very good tight end draft. Last year's was.

862
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: Remember a bunch of tight ends went in the top

863
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: like three rounds. Trying to think Kincaid. Obviously, Laporta definitely

864
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 2: missing one guy that went high as well. I mean,

865
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: I think there were like six or seven tight ends

866
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: and win the top one hundred picks. Don't quote me

867
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: on that, but definitely was a lot. Hey John, I've

868
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 2: been listening to your podcast for a couple of years

869
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: now and just wanted to thank you for making podcasts,

870
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: as I look forward to them every week. Being the

871
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: student body president of a college in Canada, I have

872
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: to deal with a lot of conflicting opinions as well

873
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: as some harsh criticism as a former Scout. I was

874
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: wondering if you had any comments on how to deal

875
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: with controversy or negative criticism. Well, I think there are

876
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: two types. I just deal with people talking shit on

877
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: the internet, so it's very very easy for me not

878
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: to pay attention. I just don't really look at comments

879
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: good and the bad. They don't mean that much to me.

880
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: Not that I don't appreciate people that reach out and

881
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: say positive things. Different if someone slides in your DM,

882
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: but I can just tone it out really easily. Now

883
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: when you're in an office setting as a Scout, as

884
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: an employee, as a corporate guy, as a student body president,

885
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: and you're getting him face to face, yeah, it's a

886
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: little more difficult and it takes a lot of emotional

887
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: maturity to just kind of take a deep breath something.

888
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: When I was young, I mean it was hard. It's

889
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: easy to go into a shell or feel shitty about yourself.

890
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: You just you gotta, I don't know. The more you get,

891
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: the better you feel out how to deal with it.

892
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: So I think there are two types of criticism in

893
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: this modern day world. There's ones where you're in a

894
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: work situation or a leadership situation and you get in.

895
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: These you know, controversies or whatever, and then you.

896
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: To deal with those. The more and more experience you

897
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: have dealing with them, you kind of figure out what

898
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: works and what doesn't. You also got to know the

899
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: people you're dealing with, right, so the people you deal with,

900
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a coach. You know, certain people's

901
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: you know, makeup is different than others. Right. Some people

902
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: you can scream at it's no big deal. Other people, fuck,

903
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: they'll go into a shell or it'll be a disaster.

904
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 2: I think with internet criticism, there's never been an easier

905
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 2: criticism to deal with. Just don't pay attention. But you know,

906
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: unless you it's hard. Because I don't have specific examples

907
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: for you in terms of what you're dealing with, but

908
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: it's much harder to deal with because that is the

909
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: only ones that matter, the real people. Interactions with criticism

910
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: like is it fair. If it's fair, then look in

911
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 2: the mirror, figure it out. If it's not, then hell,

912
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: just move on with your day. Long time listener dig

913
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: your content like this guy. I'm from Norcaal myself in Lincoln, California,

914
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: know right where that is. I'm also at long suffering fan.

915
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: I know you like to clown on the organization since

916
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: you since your breakup. I wouldn't call it a breakup,

917
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: but I would call it more like middle cough. You

918
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: are not allowed around the raiders, but I hear you.

919
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: I it's listen. It's some of it's tongue in cheek

920
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: and quite frankly, you're not wrong, and there has been

921
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: a plethora of bad decisions. I have some optimism with Pierce,

922
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: though I feel like he could be like a Dan

923
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: Campbell in Detroit and Tom Telesco is an experienced general manager.

924
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? Well, I would agree like Dan,

925
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: he I always respect when high end people believe in you,

926
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: and Dan Campbell's biggest believers were Bill Parcells as a

927
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: player and then as a coach and Sean Payton. So

928
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: it's like a lot of people talk shit about Dan

929
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: Campbell when he got the job. This is not a

930
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: VC firm, We're not running a tech company. This, at

931
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: the end of the day, is football. You're running fucking

932
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: off tackle runs. You were motivating people in the classroom,

933
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: on the field, and in the weight room. This isn't

934
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: your normal job. So it was easy to make fun

935
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: of him with the bite your ankles and all that stuff.

936
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: It's like, I think this guy's a little smarter than

937
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: you get credit for. And then obviously hired a really

938
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: good staff and you get credit when your offensive coordinator

939
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: is a star, because five years ago, anyone could have

940
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: hired Ben Johnson. He did. Now it wasn't his original

941
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, Anthony Lynn was, and what did he do.

942
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 2: He fired him and with Antonio Pierce. Coughlin's his biggest supporter.

943
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: Coughlin beat Belichick twice. Coughlin's a really high end, just

944
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: high level guy when it comes to football, and Antonio

945
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: Pierce was like the team captain leader of the Super

946
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: Bowl team. And Campbell had been coaching for a while

947
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, he had been a long time assistant

948
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 2: when he finished playing, and he even got a little

949
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: bit of time. Now, obviously, Antonio Pierce did two as

950
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: an interim coach and then he had to go kinda

951
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: I would say mentor under Sean Payton for years. And

952
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: he even said when he got the job that it

953
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: changed his mindset because at my core, I'm like Parcels,

954
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: old school, very conservative, and I saw Sean Payton and

955
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: I realized in modern day football, you can't be like that.

956
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: So the knock to me on Antonio Pierce leadership dealing

957
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: with players. He's going to be in a it comes

958
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: natural to him. In terms of the coaching, think of

959
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: the coaches he meant towared under. I like the guy

960
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: whenever I've met him. He's cool to me. But Herm

961
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Edwards is not a good coach. It was a joke

962
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: what he did at Arizona State a joke. I mean,

963
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: that's called stealing money. He gets fired from Arizona State,

964
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: he goes back to ESPN. It's like, well, you've been

965
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: in college football now for five years into Power five conference,

966
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: never talked about college football. I don't people that say

967
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: he doesn't even know the names of his players when

968
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: he's there are in a state and then, I mean,

969
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: this is no fault of his own. I don't blame

970
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: Antonio Pears to go work for him, and then he

971
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: goes to work for Josh McDaniels, who's also one of

972
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 2: the worst head coaches we've ever seen objectively. So Antonio

973
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Peers is a player, can't question his credentials as a coach.

974
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: As a says coach, look who he's worked for now.

975
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: He brings in Conflin, he brings in Marvin Lewis. That

976
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: should help. But I would say that Dan Campbell was

977
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: much more ready for an opportunity, given he had just

978
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,240
Speaker 2: worked at a longer period of time for higher end guys.

979
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: I like to less go as well. I understand why

980
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: they did it. I think the most fascinating thing about

981
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: the Raiders is, like, is Michael Penny's going to be

982
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: on their team in a week and a half, because

983
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people think that's going to happen. If

984
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: that happens, not saying I'll be a Raider fan, but

985
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: I'll definitely I won't be anti Raiders. I like Michael

986
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: Pennix Hey John two years on from the Russell Wilson trade.

987
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: Much has been made of Denver as the quote unquote

988
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: loser in the trade that the difficulties it has placed

989
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: the Broncos in. What about the winner after offloading an

990
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: aging asset, a heavy contract, gaining multiple first round picks

991
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: and a capable player is the sum of all that?

992
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: A nine to eighteen, an unproven defensive head coach and

993
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: Geno Smith are the Seahawks destined to tread water for

994
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: the foreseeable future. Well as long as Geno Smith is

995
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: their quarterback, they are. Gino's an incredible story, really is.

996
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: Haters wrote him off. He didn't right back easy, got

997
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: a root for it. Seems like a really really good guy.

998
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: And I appreciate anybody who isn't handed anything and figures

999
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: out a way, and he did. He just kept grinding,

1000
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: kept grinding, got his opportunity and has been more than serviceable.

1001
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: But there is a legitimate ceiling on how good that

1002
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: guy is. And you don't have a snowballs chance in

1003
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: hell to do anything with him as your quarterback meaningful

1004
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: in football. But you're not winning playoff games with that guy.

1005
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: It's not happening. You didn't make the playoffs. This year.

1006
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: Now he got banged up, but we saw last year

1007
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: like the ceiling, it is what it is. If that

1008
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 2: helps you get to your next guy, I would say,

1009
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: I would give you credit on the win, but if

1010
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: they just go through the situation for a couple of years,

1011
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: then yeah, nothing really changes. But you are a winner

1012
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: when everybody, including myself I'm guilty, said you're gonna look

1013
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: really bad trading Russell Wilson all these picks felt like

1014
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: the hit on eighty percent of the picks they get

1015
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: rid of. Let's face it, one of the biggest headaches

1016
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: in the league. That's what Russell Wilson is a headache.

1017
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: His stardom and the way we talk about him far

1018
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: exceeds the return on investment on the field. It's not

1019
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: even close. So removing that and getting that back is

1020
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: an immediate win. So yeah, I would say regardless obviously

1021
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: to like compete in the playoff, how are they going

1022
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: to compete? Though? I mean, their roster is actually not bad,

1023
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: but they're not. Mike McDonald fantastic defensive coordinator. Being a

1024
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: head coach a different animal, and he's facing two guys

1025
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: that have now been head coaches for like seven eight years,

1026
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: that we all consider top five guys in McVeigh and

1027
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: Chanahan who have good teams. It's going to be difficult.

1028
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: Huge fan of three. Now the content you produce, the

1029
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: volume in a recent memory. Before every NFL season, Coward

1030
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: predicts his pop team, a previously bad team that surprised

1031
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 2: the league and fans for the upcoming season. In your opinion,

1032
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: who is this year's pop team? Uh, let's let's talk

1033
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: about that after the draft. I'm not it's not on

1034
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: like the forefront of my mind. I have to look

1035
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: back at like the standings, the rosters, kind of more

1036
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: master's mode. Give me a couple of weeks after the draft,

1037
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: will we'll hit on a team that had a good offseason,

1038
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: had a good draft, and could make the playoffs. I

1039
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: think the easy one is the Bears. You could argue

1040
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: does that even count as of we're sitting here right

1041
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: now to be the Bears? Like, could they win ten

1042
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: games next year? How could you argue they couldn't. I mean,

1043
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: they won seven games last year with a quarterback they

1044
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: couldn't throw from the pocket. Now they add Keenan Allen,

1045
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: they have the ninth overall pick as well as you

1046
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: know in theory they should be upgrading at quarterback, so

1047
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: they're definitely the easy answer. But the pushback there is

1048
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: the division. The Lions are excellent, way better roster, offensive coordinator, back,

1049
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: everyone back. The Packers, if they just keep playing like

1050
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: they were playing, are going to be a problem. In

1051
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: Minnesota has a lot of good players. It seems the

1052
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: forty nine ers this year are not going to have

1053
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: an elite defense, probably not top ten, but certainly not

1054
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: in the top three or five. In my opinion, this

1055
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: means they need to have a more complimentary football team

1056
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: this year and lean into what they do best, run

1057
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: the ball. If I were Lynch, I would be focusing

1058
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: the draft on beefing up the offensive line and at

1059
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: minimum trading up to get a plug and play lineman.

1060
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: And if I were Shanahan, I would lean into the

1061
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 2: running back by committee this year versus driving CMC into

1062
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: the ground and probably getting him hurt. I feel like

1063
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: this could allow him to you do more on offense,

1064
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: like leveraging the big man Jordan Mason on the short

1065
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: yardage a gap runs, and potentially even flexing out cm

1066
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: see some more as a wide receiver. Not to mention,

1067
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: Elijah is a really solid back. He's hurt a lot.

1068
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: I know the Niners had a great rushing season this year,

1069
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 2: but teams substantially slowed it down in the playoffs, and

1070
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: it was a miracle they got to the Super Bowl

1071
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: leaning on a struggling party and shaded defense. Kyle is

1072
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: a talented running back room, but doesn't use it to

1073
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: his advantage. Do you agree Kyle Shanahan treats Christian McCaffrey

1074
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: like the Lakers or Warriors will treat Lebron and Steph

1075
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: in these playing games. He rides him like he's the

1076
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: best player in the league, and you could argue that

1077
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: there are a lot of games where he is. I

1078
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: do think, given his history being injured to sustain his

1079
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: greatness because he is a great player. I mean, he

1080
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: is easily won non quarterback, one of the best players

1081
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: in the league. It is the amount that is on

1082
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: his shoulders. It really is. And there were so many

1083
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: times last year, either they'd have the lead or Layton

1084
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: games it was unnecessary for him to keep running him

1085
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: up the middle, and he did so. Yeah, I don't

1086
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: agree with it. I didn't agree with it last year

1087
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to agree with it this year,

1088
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: But I don't think he changes. I think he goes.

1089
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: We get this guy in the prime of his career,

1090
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: he's under contract for the next couple of years. We're

1091
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: gonna fucking ride him. I'll never forget Pat Hill. When

1092
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: it was clear early on Ryan matthews junior season, like

1093
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: this kid is gone, He's going to the draft. Hand

1094
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: him the rock. And I think you treat Christian McCaffrey

1095
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: like I understand his mindset of like this is the

1096
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: best player. He gives me the best chance to win,

1097
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: and he doesn't. There's not a five year career guaranteed,

1098
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 2: so we might as well take advantage of it while

1099
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: we have him. I wouldn't do it if I could

1100
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: do it now. I'm not claiming I know more about

1101
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: or better at football than Kyle Shanahan, but I do

1102
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: think that he over uses him for sure, especially in

1103
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: unnecessary spots. But I'm also realistic. I've watched Kyle Shanahan

1104
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: every snap he's ever coached. I do not expect him

1105
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: to change at all. So yeah, in a perfect world,

1106
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: they should do I expect him to do it. No

1107
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: love the pod. It's from James. I've been watching for

1108
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: a while I was a basketball player through college for

1109
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: the Koogs at Washington State. Good athlete, but obviously really

1110
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: interested in football as well. Rip the Pac twelve RP.

1111
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: My question is, I'm a Jets fan who lives in Minnesota.

1112
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see Darnold play. I'm a Jets fan

1113
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: of lou Okay. I was like, I'm trying to follow this,

1114
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: but for the Jets, why is there so much negativity

1115
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: from the media. I get the A rod drama, but

1116
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 2: I would argue we have a top ten roster in

1117
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: the NFL. I would still take Rogers over a lot

1118
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks at the moment. I understand that this function

1119
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: of the organization, but when it comes to football, how

1120
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: can people expect this team to be bad? Given Rogers

1121
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: stays healthy. Am I too high on solid he coaches

1122
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: a consistent top five defense to high on Rodgers? Especially

1123
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: with Bill's situation, I really think the Jets should be

1124
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: the favorites for the division. I think your offensive line

1125
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: is a major question mark. I mean, your best offensive

1126
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: lineman all have injury histories, and if they go down,

1127
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: it just derails your squad. They're older players. I think

1128
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: that's a legit concern. As we're sitting here right now,

1129
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: I would say playmaking is a concern as well. Garrett

1130
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: Wilson's a really good player. Mike Williams gets injured a lot.

1131
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: Everyone roots for Mike Williams. He's fun player to have

1132
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: on your fantasy team. He's a fun player to watch.

1133
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: He just towards ACL and he's been injured a lot

1134
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 2: before that. So I can't give you a top ten roster.

1135
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: You do have some excellent defensive players there is. Quentin

1136
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: Williams is one of the best defensive linemen in the league.

1137
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: Star Sas Gardner is a really good player. You have

1138
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: some really good pass rushers. Your defense is solid. Salid

1139
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: doesn't call the defense, though Jeff Olbrook does. He's not

1140
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: even your defensive coordinators, your head coach. Now you get

1141
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: credit because clearly he leans on defense. Here's the other thing.

1142
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett might stink. Most people in the NFL thinks

1143
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: he blows. So if he's a bottom ten offensive coordinator,

1144
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 2: you have a forty year old Rogers and a questionable

1145
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: offensive line. I bought the hype last year picked you

1146
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: to win the East. I thought you could compete for

1147
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Obviously, the Rogers injury derailed that take.

1148
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: But as I watched your season play out, like, I

1149
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: think it would have been very, very difficult for you

1150
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: to get to ten wins. I really do. Rogers wasn't

1151
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: that good the year before, and the Packers are better

1152
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: than you, and they didn't make the playoffs. Packers are

1153
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: way better than you, so I think it can be difficult. Man,

1154
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: I would be cautiously optimistic. My expectations would not be

1155
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: to win the division. I'm not saying it's impossible. What

1156
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: would be like can we be in the wildcard mix

1157
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: come December? That would be a huge upgrade from the

1158
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: last couple of years. Obviously. I just finishing listened to

1159
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: your weekend reaction with Coward this from last week. At

1160
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: the very end, you mentioned how you were watching the

1161
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 2: Colts rans Rams game and were impressed by Anthony Richardson

1162
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: and forgot how good he looked. As a diehards Colts fan,

1163
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: I've rewatched that game a thousand times and I can't

1164
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: help but think that we got something special in Indie

1165
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson and Shane Sikin. Do you think the

1166
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: national media is possibly forgetting about how good ar looked,

1167
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: and what are your thoughts on the Colts' upcoming season.

1168
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: When I say watched that game, I was at the

1169
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: gym and they got the NFL network on one of

1170
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: the high TVs and NFL now at work, they basically

1171
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: scrapped all their shows and just have rerun games. And

1172
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: every time I looked up, he looked sweet. There was

1173
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: no disputing his physical gifts. He was the highest ceiling

1174
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: of all the quarterbacks last year. Hell, he'd be the

1175
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: highest ceiling of all the quarterbacks this year. His physical

1176
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: gifts are elite. He has not played much football, and

1177
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: the injuries last year were really concerning, So I think

1178
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: you could argue he's one of the biggest wild cards

1179
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: in the league. Now, like you said, your coach is

1180
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: a stud. Your coaches to me and McVeigh, Shanahan, Lafleur,

1181
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: like if he was a stock, I would pump a

1182
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: lot of cash into it. But some things are out

1183
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: of your control. And when your quarterback has injury concerns,

1184
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: no matter how great of a scheme guy you are,

1185
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 2: and let's face it, he's not the most accurate guy,

1186
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: So injury concerns accurate. Like, there's a lot to deal

1187
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: with there. But like if I were you, I would

1188
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: be much more excited than Jets fans because if it

1189
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: does work, like you could win twelve games, your ceiling

1190
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: is pretty high. But it's just to wait and see.

1191
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 2: And let's face it, every time, at least for a year,

1192
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: he gets hit, he's down on the field for an

1193
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: extra second or two.

1194
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 4: Your heart's gonna drop, You're gonna swallow really hard, You're

1195
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 4: gonna hold your breath, because that's how it is with

1196
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 4: guys until they have some durability questions, prove that they

1197
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 4: can be durable.

1198
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: See that, like with Joel Embiid every time Anthony Davis,

1199
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: every time they go down, it's like, oh, here we

1200
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: go again, until Anthony Richardson kind of shake that. It

1201
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: just kind of is what it is. But you almost

1202
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: made the playoffs last year with Gardner Minshew. So if

1203
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: this guy is on the field, in theory, you should

1204
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: be better. But he's gotta stay on the field seventeen

1205
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: games a long time man, especially as an athletic running mobile.

1206
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to say run guys over, but he's

1207
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: big enough to. So it's it's going to be a

1208
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: fascinating case study. It really, I'm excited to watch I AM,

1209
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: and like I said, I would be excited if I

1210
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: was you.

1211
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 4: The Volume