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Speaker 5: Very exciting so for sure, but before we start, we

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Speaker 5: January twenty fifth, January twenty six. It's a two day event.

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Speaker 5: First Family of Fitness. Mister and missus two weeks out.

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Speaker 5: They're doing anything in Atlanta for sure. And our brother

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Speaker 2: Culture himself, that's a fact.

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Speaker 5: And then after that it's open bar and it's catered

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Speaker 5: Andy from Y two K Credit Solution's gonna talk about

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Speaker 3: This is it's gonna be a very good episode.

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Speaker 5: So it was crazy because me and Troy was out

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Speaker 5: at dinner about a few weeks back. Yeah, and one

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Speaker 2: So all right, it's twenty twenty two, and I'm just

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Speaker 4: Read Read Friend Zone, who also does touring. They just

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Speaker 4: had a they just went on tour with McDonald's at HBCUs.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you have Angela's Lip Service, which I love

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Speaker 4: and I love her, and also brewin Idiots with Charlemane

441
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Speaker 4: Andrew Schultz and Flavorant too, which Andrew is now selling

442
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Speaker 4: out everything. He's doing everything.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so that's so that's a that's a network.

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Speaker 5: You have shouts shout out to our brother willow to

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Speaker 5: sixty seven and Keilly, congratulations. They just signed with Barstool.

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Speaker 4: Marstol's huge.

447
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Speaker 5: That's a network. So there's a few other networks so

448
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Speaker 5: and similar to a record label. So like if you

449
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Speaker 5: if you're a deaf jam artist, right, it's easy. They're

450
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Speaker 5: gonna they're gonna collab with other deaf jam artists, right.

451
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Speaker 5: So if gz's on deaf Jam and they just got

452
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Speaker 5: a new artist on death Jam, the best way to

453
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Speaker 5: give him that look is to put him on a

454
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Speaker 5: record everybody. So it's like quality control, right, like quality control,

455
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Speaker 5: Like they got a little baby. The best way to

456
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Speaker 5: give him a look is to put quab on a hook.

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Speaker 5: So now you come on to the label for pretty

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Speaker 5: much for the people to understand it.

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Speaker 2: And who's featured on your first single?

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Speaker 3: They put you on, idiot? So how did that? How

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Speaker 3: did that work? Like? Did they have to?

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Speaker 4: And I knew they were scared of us. We literally

463
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Speaker 4: were also on only for the last twenty twenty five

464
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Speaker 4: minutes of the episode. So Andrews Charlamagine did a whole episode.

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Speaker 4: We come in the last twenty twenty five minutes. So

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Speaker 4: to have been able to reach thirty thousand new listeners

467
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Speaker 4: in a twenty to twenty five minute here you go,

468
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Speaker 4: Like they put us on the hook. We didn't even

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Speaker 4: get a purse.

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Speaker 3: So they did they have to get the okay from Charlemagne.

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Speaker 4: Chris Morrow, who was head of loud Speaker. He I'm

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Speaker 4: sure they did.

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Speaker 3: Spoken He's like it's cool whatever.

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Speaker 4: They were like these girls are ready.

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Speaker 5: Now because it's interesting because like I said, so, all right,

476
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Speaker 5: so in this equation, if you're a loyal listener to

477
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Speaker 5: or Alsha, we're like coch Records, like, we're comply, we're

478
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Speaker 5: completely independent, and we're just flying by the bootstraps.

479
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Speaker 3: We don't know anything. We're just figuring out as we go.

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Speaker 5: So it's good to notice stuff because it's like, oh,

481
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Speaker 5: this is how these things actually work. On the other

482
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Speaker 5: side of the table, we're like the underdogs in this

483
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Speaker 5: whole scenario.

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Speaker 4: Well no, even talking to you guys. A lot of

485
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Speaker 4: people look at podcasting as it's a hobby, it's something

486
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Speaker 4: to do with your friends. And I remember even the

487
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Speaker 4: conversation Weezy and I had before starting the show. I

488
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Speaker 4: was just like, listen, if we're going to follow the

489
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Speaker 4: model to try to make money on this thing, we

490
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Speaker 4: got to look at this as a business. We have

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Speaker 4: to operate as a business. And I don't see no money. Girl.

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Speaker 4: I got a career.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to it.

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Speaker 4: I got a plan, you know, I never in my

495
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Speaker 4: wildest dreams again. We started this podcast less than three

496
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Speaker 4: years ago, April of twenty seventeen. It's now twenty twenty

497
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Speaker 4: and and we've done We're now on our second technically tour,

498
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Speaker 4: and like I said, we made a quarter million dollars

499
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Speaker 4: last year on what a lot of people see as

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Speaker 4: a hobby and I was able to leave what I

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Speaker 4: thought would be my career for the next twenty thirty years.

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Speaker 3: And it's only gonna get bigger from you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the plan. That's the plan.

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Speaker 5: Sure, so all right, so we only go in the

505
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Speaker 5: next time, we're gonna talk about the business breakdown how

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Speaker 5: you're actually making money. But before that, you said, like

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Speaker 5: in the podcast world, there's like politics like stuff like that, right, yes,

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Speaker 5: so can you talk about that briefly because it's like,

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Speaker 5: so like if you're on one network, you might not

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Speaker 5: be able to collab with someone on another network.

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't seen that really happen. But we're all humans,

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Speaker 4: so you have I don't want to say human era,

513
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Speaker 4: but human relationships. And so you do have people who

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Speaker 4: aren't friends or have a history for some personal reasons

515
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Speaker 4: and now you'll probably never see them collab and' that's

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Speaker 4: just more so. Yeah. That, And then you also have

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Speaker 4: to look at it as a business, like does it

518
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Speaker 4: make sense for me to go on a podcast that

519
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Speaker 4: talks about cooking?

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Speaker 2: Probably somebody might have a food finish.

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Speaker 4: Look okay, But you also have to look at it like, okay,

522
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Speaker 4: does this make sense? For me to collab with this person,

523
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Speaker 4: does it benefit my brand? Does it benefit their brand?

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Speaker 4: And again, also like I said, there is the human

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Speaker 4: aspect of things. So even though we're all podcasters, that

526
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Speaker 4: just like all rappers, aren't friends all podcasts.

527
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Speaker 5: And it's like I said, the whole underworld of podcast

528
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Speaker 5: So I definitely thank you for giving us information. Thank

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Speaker 5: my brother Whilow. He gave us a lot of Chad

530
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Speaker 5: from eighty five South show I.

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Speaker 4: Love I love all the I love Carlos and DC's

532
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Speaker 4: still waiting for them to come on. But no supporting

533
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Speaker 4: everything there yea.

534
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Speaker 5: They just give us game and it's like you know,

535
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Speaker 5: those those guys are established in the podcast world. So

536
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Speaker 5: like this podcast award shows, it's like iHeart and it's

537
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Speaker 5: like different things and it's like exclusive deals now that

538
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Speaker 5: that podcasters are signing like exclusively where apples on Spotify,

539
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Speaker 5: and it's so much different stuff.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're going to see in the space of podcasting

541
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Speaker 4: even over like it's just getting started, specifically in our

542
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: space where talk radio has been out Howard Stern. What

543
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: I'm doing now isn't new. We're talking about sex in

544
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Speaker 4: the same way that Howard Stern did he brought on

545
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Speaker 4: porn stars and had them do wild things, but it

546
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Speaker 4: was just talk radio. Talk radio is essentially what podcasting is.

547
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Speaker 4: But in our I guess communities, we didn't listen to

548
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Speaker 4: talk radio. No one wanted to turn on and hear

549
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Speaker 4: people talk. But now we're getting in a space where

550
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Speaker 4: it's very open and again, the everyday person is finding

551
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Speaker 4: themselves with a podcast with a lot of listeners they.

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Speaker 2: Find because they found a lot of value in it. Right, So,

553
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Speaker 2: like this is the way we educate now, Like we

554
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Speaker 2: used to get educated through the music. The music so

555
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Speaker 2: much that we listen to. Now where the kids listen

556
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Speaker 2: to now not the same message, right.

557
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No one wants to pick up many books. Really,

558
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Speaker 4: they want to get it in one hundred and forty

559
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Speaker 4: character tweet what's going on, and that's the limit to

560
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Speaker 4: what they're reading.

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Speaker 2: So we're putting it. We're putting it through the airs

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Speaker 2: the same way we learn from music. Now we're putting

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Speaker 2: this education through the airs because that's what people have.

564
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Speaker 2: They have their phones. They could just hit the podcast,

565
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Speaker 2: right and they go away with the education.

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Speaker 3: That's the fact.

567
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Speaker 5: So all right, So the next segment we're gonna we're

568
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Speaker 5: gonna get to what everybody wants to know is how

569
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Speaker 5: do you make money on a podcast?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna blow it out the water for sure, all right.

571
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Speaker 5: So in this segment, we're going to go into the

572
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Speaker 5: deep dive of the numbers. As you said, you're not

573
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Speaker 5: doing a podcast just for fun, You're doing it business

574
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Speaker 5: full time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you walked away from a full fledged career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, from being a public accountant. I walked away. And again,

577
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Speaker 4: I spent four long, stressful years of my life getting

578
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Speaker 4: getting the degree to that point, just to get to

579
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Speaker 4: that point, and I left it within the first year.

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Speaker 2: Can you can you just talk about that for just

581
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Speaker 2: like a second, like the feeling or the build up

582
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Speaker 2: to knowing that, you know what, I have to leave

583
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Speaker 2: or I can't do both at the same time anymore.

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Speaker 4: I mean it came from not only just juggling time.

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Speaker 4: I mean when I first started my job, and I

586
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Speaker 4: started in July, so it was right before we got

587
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Speaker 4: into busy season, and me and her were recording still

588
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Speaker 4: like I have to go, So I was like they

589
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Speaker 4: wanted me to stay, and I'm like, I got this

590
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Speaker 4: schedule studio at seven o'clock. I gotta be up out

591
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Speaker 4: of here, like I can't stay. So I mean, when

592
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Speaker 4: I first started my job, I was they thought I

593
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Speaker 4: was sick because I had all these doctor's appointments every

594
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Speaker 4: week and they're like, you need to schedule these on

595
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Speaker 4: another time because we need you to stay these days.

596
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Speaker 4: And I literally was telling them I couldn't stay at work.

597
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Speaker 4: And it wasn't until we started we planned our tour

598
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Speaker 4: and I went into the office to my senior manager

599
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Speaker 4: and finally had to open up, like, hey guys, Fridays,

600
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Speaker 4: I may have to leave early sometimes because I am

601
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Speaker 4: going on a tour. And they're like what, And they're like,

602
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Speaker 4: what do you do? And I'm like, it's like a

603
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Speaker 4: radio show. Because no one really knows what a podcast

604
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Speaker 4: is all the way, so I'm like it's like a

605
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Speaker 4: radio show. They're like, really, what do you talk about?

606
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Speaker 4: And I was like, women empowerment, you know, that's my

607
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Speaker 4: that was my har I didn't want to, you know,

608
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Speaker 4: and you know, dating your relationships didn't add in the

609
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Speaker 4: section there. And then it wasn't until like I'm being

610
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Speaker 4: noticed at my d and I event from partners at

611
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Speaker 4: my firm like oh my god, I knew you worked

612
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Speaker 4: at one of the big fours, but I didn't know

613
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Speaker 4: which one. And then I'm being spotted in the cafeteria

614
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Speaker 4: during the week and I'm just like, this isn't gonna

615
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Speaker 4: hold up much longer. So yeah, in the beginning, it

616
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Speaker 4: was hard to balance it the anxiety of leaving. I

617
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Speaker 4: literally was like, Okay, I made my salary in the

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Speaker 4: first five months of twenty nineteen. I matched it with

619
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Speaker 4: what I was doing with the podcast, and so before

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Speaker 4: I left, I kind of set a date to myself.

621
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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want to do another busy season.

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Speaker 4: Busy seasons and public accounting. I was crying weekly. I

623
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Speaker 4: was getting into work at nine o'clock, wasn't leaving the

624
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Speaker 4: office until one two in the morning. And then they

625
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Speaker 4: said I wasn't saying late enough because there was people

626
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Speaker 4: saying till five. I said, not me, I'm getting my sleep,

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Speaker 4: and so, you know, just them even feeling like I

628
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 4: wasn't giving them enough time, and I'm like, I'm working

629
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Speaker 4: nine to two am.

630
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Speaker 2: That's crazy.

631
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Speaker 4: So I'm busting seventy eighty hour weeks and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm giving someone else seventy eighty hour weeks of me

633
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Speaker 4: at a salary. I said, those additional hours and even

634
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: the hours I'm giving them. If I put that into myself,

635
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: what could I really make? And so I paid off

636
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Speaker 4: some of my credit cards, I started the savings, and

637
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Speaker 4: I was raising a single parent household. My mom was

638
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Speaker 4: a tech nurse. We grew up Section eight food stamps.

639
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 4: That's my life. So the idea of a savings I

640
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: had never had, my mom has never had, my dad

641
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: has never had a savings account was not something I

642
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: grew up knowing about. So I wanted to make sure

643
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: I had a safety net just in case. So got

644
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: my savings, paid off my debt, raised my credit score

645
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: to where I was like, Okay, maybe I could get

646
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Speaker 4: a couple of things now, and left my job.

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Speaker 3: Gotta do it to do it all right?

648
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Speaker 5: So that podcast made a quarter million dollars in the

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Speaker 5: first six months of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Right, No, so a quarter million dollars in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen, we made a quarter million dollars through all

652
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Speaker 4: of our avenues. But by May, which is when we

653
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Speaker 4: finished our first tour with ads with Patreon, with that,

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Speaker 4: I had matched my accounting salary, so I had made

655
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Speaker 4: sixty thousand. So I'm looking, I'm like, okay, So I

656
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Speaker 4: made about sixty thousand and five months with the podcast.

657
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Speaker 4: I just worked half a year. So I saw one

658
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Speaker 4: hundred grand in like the first half of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: most I've ever seen in my life. And so I

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Speaker 4: was like okay, And again I gave all of these

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Speaker 4: hours to a corporation. I was like, what can I

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Speaker 4: do the next six months? So yeah, I left in June.

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Speaker 5: All right, but yeah, all right, So how did you

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Speaker 5: make the money. So there's a couple of different ways

665
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Speaker 5: how you make money on the podcast and your guys specifically.

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Speaker 5: So first I want to talk about Patreon. Yes, Patreon

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Speaker 5: is something that once again mat out to them. We

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Speaker 5: didn't know anything about Patreon n til we started a

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Speaker 5: podcast and somebody actually put in a comment on Instagram

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Speaker 5: like you guys have a Patreon on and.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, you know what Patreon is? Like no,

672
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, let me just type it in.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what this is.

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Speaker 4: Actually, that's the one site that there's a ton of

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Speaker 4: Google about. Like, when you start podcasting, there is no

676
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Speaker 4: blueprint to what we're doing. There's not so I can

677
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Speaker 4: give you all of the steps that I did exactly.

678
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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you're gonna see the success money I made.

679
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Speaker 4: There's just really no blueprint of this, but Patreon there is.

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Speaker 4: And again, at this point, when we first started the podcast,

681
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Speaker 4: we were paying for studio, we were paying for edits,

682
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Speaker 4: we needed fires, we need there was expenses coming out,

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Speaker 4: and we were like, okay, let's find a way to

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Speaker 4: bring money in, and so we started our Patreon accaus.

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Speaker 5: So, all right, so you guys really doing really well

686
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Speaker 5: with Patreon, So can you talk about that, Like what

687
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Speaker 5: what's your model for Patreon?

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Speaker 4: So for Patreon, we wanted to you have to give

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Speaker 4: them more than what they're getting. So as podcasting, I

690
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: don't think people realize like the amount of information we

691
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Speaker 4: give out that's for free to a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: And we started growing. We really have supporters. I like

693
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Speaker 4: to think of our audience as there are our sisters,

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Speaker 4: they are our best friends, We're in their head as

695
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Speaker 4: those things, and so being as vulnerable as we have

696
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Speaker 4: in transparent with our lives, people wanted to support us,

697
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Speaker 4: but we were just giving them content for free. So

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Speaker 4: we were like, okay, what can we give them for

699
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Speaker 4: a subscription. That's what Patreon is it's a subscription. It's

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Speaker 4: a subscription platform that you could add to your already

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Speaker 4: present platform.

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Speaker 5: For creatives question and it doesn't have to be podcasting

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Speaker 5: any videos. Anybody can have a patri You can have

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Speaker 5: a Patreon g account and how much you make a

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Speaker 5: Patreon So.

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Speaker 4: Currently we're seeing close to nine grand.

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Speaker 3: A month, So what do you? What do you? What

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Speaker 3: do you have?

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Speaker 4: So right now we offer a two dollars tier, a

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Speaker 4: five dollars tier, and a fifteen dollars tier, and for

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Speaker 4: our fifteen dollars patrons and five dollars patrons, they get

712
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Speaker 4: three bonus episodes a month. So as a creator, we

713
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Speaker 4: are you know, creating now seven to eight episodes a month.

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Speaker 4: And then for our fifteen dollars tier patrons, we send

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Speaker 4: them out merch. So every four months they are able

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Speaker 4: to receive merch from us, and it can be anything

717
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Speaker 4: from a crew neck, a sweatshirt, a T shirt, socks,

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Speaker 4: a mug, and so every four months they're now getting

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Speaker 4: merched that you can only get as being a top

720
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Speaker 4: tier patron, which is dope because now that we do

721
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Speaker 4: live shows and they come in with the merch, we

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Speaker 4: know that they're supporters and it's just a different connection

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Speaker 4: that we have with them, but also it allows them

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Speaker 4: to have their own community boards, they talk with each other,

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Speaker 4: We give information that we only give to our patrons

726
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Speaker 4: that we don't put on our public platforms. And then

727
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Speaker 4: now that we are also on tour, it's the only

728
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Speaker 4: place that you can be to get access to pre

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Speaker 4: sale tickets, which was a big thing because our Patreon

730
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Speaker 4: community sold out our VIP tickets for our New York

731
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Speaker 4: show before it was even open to the public. So

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Speaker 4: people feel like, you know, they're still getting value and

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Speaker 4: being a part of that community.

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Speaker 3: Sope, and how long did it take to grow? How

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Speaker 3: many patrons do you have?

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Speaker 4: We have about fourteen hundred.

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Speaker 3: How long did it take to grow deck?

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Speaker 4: We started our Patreon account December of twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 4: I can remember shit, sorry, I think we started with

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Speaker 4: maybe getting eighty dollars a month and then that grew

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Speaker 4: to two and three hundred and it's a slow climb.

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Speaker 4: But then that's when we went from giving them one

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Speaker 4: episode to two episodes to now three episodes. So we've

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Speaker 4: grown to let them know that they're getting you know,

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Speaker 4: their money.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy. The first month we started Patreon, like

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Speaker 2: I said, we had no idea, like even creating the tiers.

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Speaker 2: It was like how we even price it. We try

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Speaker 2: to figure out what would make sense, and then like

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Speaker 2: the first month we had like two people.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we were happy because we were like cover our studio.

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Speaker 4: Like now we weren't having to pay for the studio

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Speaker 4: because these five people who you know wanted to support

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Speaker 4: us was now it was covering our costs.

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Speaker 5: No, Patreon has a great idea, and like I said,

757
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Speaker 5: not just for podcasts, any creative that's looking to grow organically,

758
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Speaker 5: because what it allows is for your your natural supporters,

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Speaker 5: people that really really supports you to support you financially.

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Speaker 5: And it's not just charity to get something for it

761
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Speaker 5: as well. So, like what we've done with our Patreon

762
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Speaker 5: is that we've given like the top tier, top two tiers,

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Speaker 5: access to our online university, which called Eyo University. They

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Speaker 5: also get access to live stream events all of our events.

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Speaker 5: They get discounts to our events, I think, to.

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Speaker 2: The events and to the and to our merch but

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Speaker 2: when they go to Leader dot com about.

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Speaker 3: Emerging, they get FaceTime at the highest level.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, we're going to So like now we started

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Speaker 4: to call Girl.

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Speaker 2: We're in the process of revamping it because it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we we've added so much content now that we can

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Speaker 2: maybe offer like another episode, So we're gonna start doing things.

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Speaker 5: Like that too, maybe even transcripts, transcripts episode people want

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Speaker 5: to like, they take note, they want to open above.

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Speaker 5: So I really like when you told me that you

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Speaker 5: was making nine thousand a month for for Patreon. I

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Speaker 5: really like that because it's a way to because like

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Speaker 5: you said, the podcasts are free, so it's like it's

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Speaker 5: hard for podcasters to provide so people don't understand how

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Speaker 5: much work it takes to take to a podcast.

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Speaker 4: It's a full time, full time.

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Speaker 2: And the time too. The time too was like it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but even so, and then travel, Oh and that's

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Speaker 4: what I was gonna say. So with those funds, we

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Speaker 4: were able to, like I told you, our merch for

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Speaker 4: our tour this go around calls us damn near eight grand.

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Speaker 4: Like it's expensive to buy merch, to sell merch, to

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Speaker 4: go on the road. And so our very first tour

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Speaker 4: that we did, mind you again, just being on a network,

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Speaker 4: we still own a lot of our content, and so

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Speaker 4: our first tour we had no agent, so Patreon funded

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Speaker 4: our first tour. We spent about twenty thousand dollars getting

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Speaker 4: the venues, and this was throughout eight cities. We did

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Speaker 4: thirteen shows, and we literally were like, okay, let's look

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Speaker 4: at our analytics. What cities are we going to. We

797
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Speaker 4: looked at our SoundCloud analytics and was like, okay, we

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Speaker 4: have audiences here. We picked what we would feel comfortable

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Speaker 4: as far as venue size, and literally when people ask

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Speaker 4: we were like, okay, we're going to Atlanta. Google Atlanta theater.

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Speaker 4: That's what we did. We googled the city followed by

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Speaker 4: the word theater. A list came up, and we started

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Speaker 4: emailing and calling those places asking for availability and rental costs.

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Speaker 4: And so we went through all of these cities. We

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Speaker 4: picked the venues, we got the rental costs, We knew

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Speaker 4: what we wanted to stay between as far as money,

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Speaker 4: so I think our most expensive venue, of course, was Caroline's.

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Speaker 3: How much was that?

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Speaker 4: New York City? That one was about five thousand. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and for a mattin Asha. The comedy clubs weren't dealing

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Speaker 4: with us at all. They didn't know who we were.

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Speaker 4: They didn't really We had a four pm on a Sunday.

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Speaker 4: So for you know, for the comedy clubs, they were

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Speaker 4: a little bit more pricey. But our venues ranged anywhere

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Speaker 4: from you know, our venue in Chicago was our least expensive.

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Speaker 4: That one was I don't know. I think we got

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Speaker 4: for like one hundred and fifteen hours and it's that

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Speaker 4: hundred and thirty people. We did the numbers, we price

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Speaker 4: to our tickets. We had our friends check people in.

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Speaker 4: We said, here's an extra phone, scan them on event bright.

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Speaker 4: We put all of our tickets on e vent Bride

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Speaker 4: had our friends at the door. We were like, we're

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Speaker 4: not popular, we don't need security. We had no security

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Speaker 4: for the first tour, and we knew we had to

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Speaker 4: be out at a certain time because we weren't paying

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Speaker 4: no overfees. So we runted the venues, kept one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent of the door, and we covered our own hotel

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Speaker 4: and transportation expenses. So for some of the cities, I

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Speaker 4: was like, girl, I'm staying with you, even though we

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Speaker 4: have even though I'm on tour, I'm staying with my homegirls.

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Speaker 5: How many cities? How many city you doing your first one?

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Speaker 4: Our first tour, we did eight cities and in about

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Speaker 4: three or four of the cities. We had to add

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Speaker 4: an extra show because we sold out.

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Speaker 3: The first show. How much money did you make on

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Speaker 3: your first tour?

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Speaker 4: Our first our first tour, we made about one hundred

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Speaker 4: and ten thousand profit. If you take out the venue calls,

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Speaker 4: we saw almost one hundred grand.

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Speaker 5: And but now you got an agent. Yeah, that's changed

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Speaker 5: some things changed the game for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we are now signed to w with me and

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Speaker 4: they are now doing our second tour and we went

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Speaker 4: from doing eight cities to seventeen cities.

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Speaker 5: And how has that helped you as far as like

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Speaker 5: boost up the amount of cities.

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Speaker 4: It's been amazing because we don't have to we don't

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Speaker 4: have to call the venues and be like, hey, so

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Speaker 4: we want to do a show Like that was the thing.

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Speaker 4: We're walking into these venues. We're doing tech, we're doing sound,

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Speaker 4: we're making sure the green room is cool, we're handling

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Speaker 4: the guest list. They're like, y'all don't have anyone. And

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Speaker 4: it was literally me and my co host with our

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Speaker 4: friends that wanted to help. And so we're going into

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Speaker 4: these venues as the booker, the talent, the management, the

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Speaker 4: producers of everything. Now the agent, No, the agent takes

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Speaker 4: care of booking the venues, and we now have a

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Speaker 4: tour manager and a tour assistant that deal with the

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Speaker 4: writer's production to where we can now show.

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Speaker 3: Up and put on a show and get paid.

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Speaker 4: Yes, our assistant we pay salary, our tour manager we

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Speaker 4: pay salary, and the agent takes a percentage. Writers writers

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Speaker 4: so like the things the hospitality writer, but they ask

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Speaker 4: for in our green room. So I want it to

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Speaker 4: be like I want with the purple ones taking it out.

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Speaker 4: But I was like, no, let me stop. But I

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Speaker 4: was like, ooh, we talent.

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Speaker 2: Now like earners. What's up? You ever walk into a

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Speaker 4: We went to Howard Theater, which was one of our

916
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: biggest venues, and my name was on the room and

917
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: I was like, I need all them pictures, but no,

918
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 4: I'm a writer. It's Tito's which I might have to

919
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Speaker 4: up that because it'd be going before the show start,

920
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Speaker 4: So I got Tito's my co host has like red Bull,

921
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 4: like it's simple. That's our hospitality writer. And then we

922
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 4: have our production writer. So what we need on stage,

923
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Speaker 4: the music that we're going to play, the host, what

924
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 4: time we want them and come out. So we still

925
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Speaker 4: are very much in charge with the production of our show.

926
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Speaker 3: Okay, and that's dope because that's important to us.

927
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Speaker 5: It's so the podcast game is becoming like a real,

928
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 5: real crazy thing where it's like, as a podcast, you

929
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Speaker 5: can go on tour just like a musician can go

930
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Speaker 5: on tour, and you get the same benefits and it's

931
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Speaker 5: like what you described for your first ship. That's like

932
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Speaker 5: where we're at right now because we're doing we're on

933
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Speaker 5: our tour right now where we do everything ourselves.

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Speaker 4: So that's the thing that I will say a lot

935
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Speaker 4: of people see a lot of podcasts going on tours

936
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Speaker 4: or doing live shows and they automatically think they have

937
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Speaker 4: to do it. I would go against that. I think

938
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Speaker 4: a lot of people think that, you know, if they're

939
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Speaker 4: not doing live shows, then they're not successful, and I

940
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Speaker 4: think they need to focus on maybe reaching their audience

941
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Speaker 4: more before just Okay, we're going to do a live show,

942
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Speaker 4: because I do know a lot of podcasters that are like, Okay,

943
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: it's time for me to do a live show, and

944
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: then they get the venue, they start selling tickets and

945
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Speaker 4: no tickets.

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Speaker 5: But what we did, and this is a tip for people,

947
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Speaker 5: what our blueprint was. We did networking events. We did

948
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Speaker 5: free networking events in six cities in America. We did

949
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Speaker 5: La Chicago, Houston, New York, Atlanta, anywhere else got them

950
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Speaker 5: five we did five free and no we're not a

951
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Speaker 5: networking event. We did five free networking events last year free,

952
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Speaker 5: completely free come and we just made money off of

953
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Speaker 5: merch and the bar. We split percents on the bar, right.

954
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Speaker 5: We did that for a few different reasons. A. We

955
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: wanted to just get out and touch the cities to

956
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Speaker 5: interact with the people. And we used it as a

957
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Speaker 5: real time gauge to see how hot we was in those.

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Speaker 4: I really liked that It's show our first live show again.

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Speaker 4: Like I was I was telling you guys before, as

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Speaker 4: an accountant, I'm looking at margins and break even and

961
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Speaker 4: all of the things necessary and looking at what we

962
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Speaker 4: had to put out and so what we needed to

963
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Speaker 4: sell tickets at. We did have our studio that we

964
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Speaker 4: recorded at at the time, he put up the money

965
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Speaker 4: and then we paid him back with the ticket sales.

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Speaker 4: But we literally our first show, we saw no money

967
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Speaker 4: at all, and we did We weren't doing it for money,

968
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Speaker 4: but we were doing it to reach our audience. So

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Speaker 4: I would say that that would maybe be another tip

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Speaker 4: is to make sure you price the tickets at something

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Speaker 4: where you could at least break even and not to

972
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Speaker 4: look at your first live show as something to make

973
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Speaker 4: a ton of money off of. So maybe sizing your

974
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Speaker 4: venue down with something that's not going to cost a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah and yeah, so it's it's dope because it's all

976
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Speaker 5: learning experience. It's just like so for us now, like

977
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Speaker 5: I said, we're in this stage where we're not signing

978
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Speaker 5: to anybody and we don't have any booking ages or anything,

979
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Speaker 5: so we're doing all this stuff.

980
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Speaker 3: It's a lot of work.

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Speaker 5: That's why we kind of like spread it out like

982
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 5: six weeks in between shows, and we do too, so

983
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 5: we do like a live podcast and we do a

984
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 5: workshop too, so it's like a two day event. But

985
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Speaker 5: when we got invited, like I said, shout at eighty

986
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 5: five South and we got invited to they were guested

987
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Speaker 5: on lip Service on the Lip Service Angela Yee's podcast.

988
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Speaker 5: So we went to the show that they had in

989
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Speaker 5: New York City. No, and where was it at?

990
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Speaker 3: Joint?

991
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Speaker 2: Uh Lincoln Hole?

992
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Speaker 5: Was Lincoln Hold? I think it was, yeah, but it

993
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 5: was so they were guessed on lip Service. So we

994
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Speaker 5: got there before eighty five South got there, so they

995
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Speaker 5: were They brought us to their like room, the green room,

996
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: and like they had the liquor bottles and it was

997
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: like a real like backstage for performer.

998
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: But as a podcast, especially if you're doing the like

999
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Speaker 4: you're an artist like and so yeah, it's entertainment being

1000
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Speaker 4: on tour, Like we're going through writers, we have day calls,

1001
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Speaker 4: we have might like we have sound checks, we have

1002
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Speaker 4: it's really crazy, like and when I'm talking to my

1003
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: friends who are in the music industry, they're like, you know, dang,

1004
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Speaker 4: you have like a real tour, like a real schedule,

1005
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Speaker 4: like and I'm like, yeah, it's kind of like I'm

1006
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Speaker 4: a music artist is kind of.

1007
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I say, I have to say, it's like

1008
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Speaker 5: it's a it's always a progression in the business. So

1009
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 5: it's like, as you so now you you have staff

1010
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: that handles your touring for you.

1011
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: That helps it out.

1012
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 5: Now you can add more shows and it makes it,

1013
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: you know, easier transition. And that's something that a lot

1014
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 5: of times people don't really think about as far as like,

1015
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: especially like with a podcast or any type of creative

1016
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: it's like there's more to it than just the content.

1017
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Speaker 4: But I think, I think, and it's one of the

1018
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: things that we're trying to get now. I don't think

1019
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: people realize the importance of a team, and so for

1020
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Speaker 4: a lot of the beginning of us, it was just

1021
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Speaker 4: me and her and we did We thought we could

1022
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Speaker 4: do it all. Like like I said, we were every

1023
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Speaker 4: position imaginable, and it's there's only so far that you

1024
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 4: could take yourself before you create a team. So you

1025
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Speaker 4: guys having someone behind the camera, that's hope. You guys

1026
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Speaker 4: now don't have to deal with the video element of

1027
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Speaker 4: something and you have him doing that. Us now having

1028
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Speaker 4: an engineer helps without me having to do the editing.

1029
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Speaker 4: When we're dealing with a tour, we're looking for an

1030
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Speaker 4: assistant social media person like you. It takes a team,

1031
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: which I think is why you have these people like

1032
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Speaker 4: Angela Yee and Brilliant Idiots and Joe Budden who has

1033
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: been able to go so far because they have people

1034
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Speaker 4: that have their roles.

1035
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Speaker 5: That's the fact. Eighty five South show. So they are

1036
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: nineteen people and they said they started with they was

1037
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: doing I think like one hundred to two hundred people.

1038
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: Now they do like three three thousand three people.

1039
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: They started out with a wood table and three microphones. Yes,

1040
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1041
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Speaker 4: So I mean, get anyone, anyone looking to get into

1042
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: the space, if they're looking for it to be a business,

1043
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: this definitely is something that you can grow to be

1044
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: like very you know, profitable.

1045
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 3: So hosting you get paid on hosting tour.

1046
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: Yes, ianns hostings. That just goes with bookings. And I

1047
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: love it because it's literally like bro, I'm getting paid

1048
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: to talk. It's like like this is still it's a

1049
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 4: nuance that I can't even explain. Like I'm the one

1050
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 4: that had to be told to shut up in the classroom,

1051
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 4: like talking too much.

1052
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1053
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: So they're speaking engagements right now. We're trying to do

1054
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: after parties just again, just to be more after our

1055
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 4: live shows. Again. You have to realize that the booking

1056
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 4: of hostings and clubs, that whole scene has changed they

1057
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 4: realize that certain people aren't bringing it out. Just because

1058
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: you have a million followers doesn't mean you're even going

1059
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: to bring a crowd so right now, because promoters don't

1060
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: do that as much anymore, it's us trying to y'all

1061
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: don't understand though our reach is here. So as far

1062
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Speaker 4: as club hostings, that's not really a thing, but it's

1063
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Speaker 4: more so yeah, speaking engagements and and we're doing Mocha

1064
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: Fest in Jamaica, so that's a booking where it's not

1065
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 4: really talking, but we're going to be doing a live

1066
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Speaker 4: show in Jamaica.

1067
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Speaker 3: The agent handles that stuff yourself.

1068
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 4: No, got booked on that by ourselves.

1069
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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, So another major portion of your money comes

1070
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: from ads, right, yes.

1071
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Speaker 4: Ads, And that's probably one of the hardest things for

1072
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: podcasters and it's probably the one thing that they look

1073
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 4: to start to get is ads. And that's the toughest

1074
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: thing I think to get as as a podcaster. You

1075
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: don't know who to reach out to, you know, Okay,

1076
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 4: we talk about sex, Okay, Blue Choo, Adam and Eve, like,

1077
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: there's certain brands that we know would align well with us,

1078
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Speaker 4: But who do you get in touch with to say, hey,

1079
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: give me money so that I can say your name.

1080
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: It's like it's it's hard to come about. So Loudspeaker

1081
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: plays the middle man in that they bring in majority

1082
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: of our ads outside of any ad agency. Is that

1083
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: just reach out to us personally.

1084
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Speaker 2: Prior to Loudspeaker, were you guys when you were doing independently,

1085
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: how did you get those people or we did?

1086
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: I remember this guy hit us up and was like

1087
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: I got a song, and I think we charged him, like,

1088
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: I come on for one fifth. We got other people

1089
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 4: that would send us stuff and we were doing ads,

1090
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 4: but we were doing for like fifty dollars, like just

1091
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: so that we can, well, this will cover our studio time.

1092
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: So you know, when we first started, we we literally

1093
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: were getting We thought it was anything that mattered. Oh

1094
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: we're making money. But then as we got further and

1095
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: we saw that our audience really bought into the things

1096
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 4: that we said. Again, our relationship with our audience was

1097
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: most important. So we had sex toy companies that hit

1098
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 4: us up. We were like, we're not giving an ad

1099
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: until we try the product. So there's been companies that

1100
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: have set us.

1101
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 3: Try it out.

1102
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: So there would be companies that would hit us up,

1103
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: and I was like, girl, my vibrator died the first time. Like,

1104
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: we're not doing that ad on the show.

1105
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: So.

1106
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 3: I know, but serious.

1107
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: So I think it's important that you're not just accepting

1108
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: any money that comes in because it's being thrown at

1109
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: you at.

1110
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: First, or just in general.

1111
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 4: At first, we were like listen, like we we were

1112
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: talking about how much we liked our vacation in Thailand.

1113
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 4: We would get DMS because you said you're going to Thailand.

1114
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm going. Now where did you say? And we noticed

1115
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 4: just how much like people were following what we were saying. Yeah,

1116
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: we had a strong impact. And I was like, well,

1117
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 4: if we're gonna have our people spend their hard earned

1118
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: dollars not only at our shows but in products that

1119
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 4: were endorsing, I want it to be worth endorsing. So

1120
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: that became important, I know, like just recently, a tobacco

1121
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: company hit us up. I said, are we not doing that?

1122
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: I don't care how much to pay us, I'm not

1123
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: endorsing tobacco. So it's also just really having that you

1124
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 4: know that all money isn't worth it.

1125
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: N That's a fact.

1126
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we told all that before in another episode

1127
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 5: like CPM how to engauge that. Can you just talk

1128
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 5: about that like.

1129
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: We so CPM if you google it. This is how

1130
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: you can determine how much maybe an AD would be

1131
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: worth on your podcast. So twenty five dollars is the

1132
00:52:53,680 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: basic CPM rate. You multiply that by every thousand listens

1133
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: that you get. So if you're getting ten thousand listens

1134
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: multiplied by twenty five dollars per thousand, that's two hundred

1135
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 4: and fifty dollars, and you can get that per ad.

1136
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 4: And of course the number of ads that you approve

1137
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: on your shows up to you. We don't really like

1138
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 4: to go over four, and that's maybe two midi rolls

1139
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 4: and two pre rolls. Most end rolls don't really count

1140
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: as anything. No, nobody's buying an end roll. A lot

1141
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: of people don't listen to a full podcast, so those

1142
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 4: are normally thrown in for free. But you can decide

1143
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: how many you want to take. But again, if you're

1144
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: seeing ten thousand, ten thousand listens and you take on

1145
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 4: four ads, that's one thousand dollars for that one episode.

1146
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 4: And if you're someone who maybe records out of your

1147
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 4: house and doesn't have much overhead, you're seeing that as

1148
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 4: profit because now you're not putting that into your production.

1149
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: So for us, and sometimes you can give a discount.

1150
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 4: You can be like, okay, I know the standard is

1151
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: twenty five, I'll give it to you for twenty two.

1152
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 4: And so you can gauge it all that right now,

1153
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: we base it off of about seventy thousand listens and

1154
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 4: that fluctuates. You also normally go based off of your

1155
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 4: numbers for about the sixth sixth week mark, so this

1156
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: is net six weeks.

1157
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Because some people look at it like what's your first week?

1158
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, no, no, no, so yes so. And also you

1159
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: have to realize when you're getting paid for these sometimes

1160
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: you're not getting paid until net thirty or net sixty.

1161
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: So even though you're getting this money, you're not getting

1162
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: it up front. You're saying the ad and you're not

1163
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 4: seeing that money till down the line. So being kind

1164
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: of up on when you're owed when to sound invoices.

1165
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 4: This becomes now a part of the business where you

1166
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: need to keep track of what your money is coming

1167
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 4: in and what's going out.

1168
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: Now.

1169
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Speaker 5: Also it's important for podcasters to understand too, is that

1170
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 5: they allow of the ad agencies they base your numbers

1171
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: off of previous pre data like data, so it's like

1172
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 5: where we could be in January right now, and then

1173
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 5: they'll base the numbers off of October. Yeah, and it's

1174
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 5: like six thousand less listeners than what you currently have.

1175
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 5: And then by the time you get paid it's not

1176
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 5: till March. Right now, you got a whole so it's

1177
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 5: like you're always chasing back.

1178
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 4: But also knowing that you can include your numbers not

1179
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: only from your audio, but you could be like, yo, listen,

1180
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 4: I also get another thirty thousand views on YouTube, so

1181
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: you're allowed to kind of combine those.

1182
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: You know.

1183
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: It's funny that you said, and I have to cut

1184
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 5: you off with a lot of because I was talking

1185
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 5: once again to one of our good friends in the

1186
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: podcast space and they were saying that another ad agency

1187
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 5: that he used to use and that we kind of

1188
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 5: use sometimes they don't they didn't allow that. A lot

1189
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 5: of ads don't allow YouTube.

1190
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't changing.

1191
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: It's changing a little bit now. But also, if you

1192
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 4: guys want to make money for your visuals and your audio,

1193
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: you can just base your audio numbers, which is what

1194
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: we do now because our videos have been pretty inconsistent

1195
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 4: so it's not fair to the to the you know advertiser.

1196
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 4: But there's Google ad sets, so you can still make

1197
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: money off of all of the ads that YouTube is

1198
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 4: putting into your videos as they still please, We're not

1199
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 4: able to be as monetized because of our content. So

1200
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: if you have a business, you know, podcast or something

1201
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 4: more kid friendly, which now they even added if.

1202
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to plus check out, but you.

1203
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 4: Can log in, get your Google ad Sense, and you

1204
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: can monetize and get paid off of what YouTube ads are.

1205
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 5: Another podcast hacked to get paid double is that you

1206
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 5: can do an ad for audio because most most companies

1207
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 5: just want to advertise audio. So you can do the

1208
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 5: ad for audio, but then if somebody else wants to

1209
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 5: do an ad, you might not have enough ad space.

1210
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 5: You can do the ad for YouTube, and you can

1211
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 5: outside of the ads that they already give you, like

1212
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 5: you can place an ad in the episode just for YouTube.

1213
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 4: So and I wanted to say that too. So because

1214
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: our podcast is not current event based, we do pre

1215
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: record a ton of content. So we'll go into the

1216
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 4: studio and bust out two or three episodes in one city,

1217
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 4: and so we may get an ad last minute. And

1218
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: now I have to record it and we're fitting it

1219
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 4: into audio. So that's also something for people who pre

1220
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: record their content. Don't feel like you have to miss

1221
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: out on an AD. You can always record it, edit

1222
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: the audio and fit it inside. Make sure you transition

1223
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 4: it right, and say hey, before we get to that segment,

1224
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: this episode was brought to you by and you could

1225
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 4: always feed it into it organically because a lot of

1226
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 4: you know, advertisers do want an organic sounding AD. They

1227
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 4: don't want it just placed in. So you can still

1228
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: find ways to transition it if you're editing in a good,

1229
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: you know, roundabout way, especially if you have segments the

1230
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: way you guys.

1231
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's like I said, that's important. People don't know.

1232
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 5: So it's like if you have a business that you

1233
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: know you're promoting, you know, teef straightening. You know, if

1234
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 5: you're a dentist and somebody else wants to do the

1235
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 5: exact same thing, you can't have two of the same

1236
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 5: companies advertised on audio, right. What you could do is say, okay,

1237
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: it's five hundred dollars for audio for your teeth straightening company,

1238
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 5: so we don't have space, but our YouTube numbers might

1239
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: be half of that so we can insert a short

1240
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 5: clip on video just on YouTube, charge you to fifty

1241
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 5: because it's less. So now you get in seven fifty

1242
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 5: and the YouTube listeners aren't hearing audio. Audio listeners aren't

1243
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 5: watching YouTube. For the most part, it's two different audiences.

1244
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: Audience and beauty. The beauty of the YouTube is that

1245
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: literally you can place it anywhere and as many as

1246
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: you want. Really, it just has to be after I

1247
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: think ten minutes, that's when you can start placing ads.

1248
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: So you could just place them anywhere.

1249
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 4: So that's what right, And then I mean, if you

1250
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: are a podcast that is going to start inserting all

1251
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: of these ads, that's where Patreon becomes a great platform

1252
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: because now you can say this is ad free content.

1253
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 4: So a lot of people don't like they don't want

1254
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: to hear it. They just don't want to hear it.

1255
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 4: And so now that becomes a selling point to where okay,

1256
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: well you can listen to the episode's.

1257
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 5: Ad free, and our Patreon members listen to our episodes early,

1258
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 5: not only early, not only ad free, but early as well.

1259
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, ran we ran into a like we have posted

1260
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: that we were about to put out the episode, and

1261
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: Soondy was like, yo, I loved it was our favorite

1262
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: and we were like, yo, how do you hear it? It

1263
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: was like ya, I'm a Patreo.

1264
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, out.

1265
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: To you shoutouts. No, actually I made it.

1266
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, it didn't come out yeah, And everybody

1267
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: started laughing. In the comments section, he was like, yo,

1268
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 5: he's bugging, and he's like, now I'm on patient.

1269
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I apologize.

1270
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 4: But I mean, inside of making the money, I think

1271
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: one of the other things that is the most important

1272
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: as a content creator is to literally just learn whatever

1273
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 4: you think you're gonna have to pay somebody to do,

1274
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: teach yourself. So, like I was saying, I got a

1275
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: MacBook of a gift because I said I need a

1276
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 4: MacBook because I need Premiere Pro to edit because all

1277
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 4: the people who edit stuff have MacBooks, so I need

1278
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 4: a MacBook. And so I taught myself how to edit

1279
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 4: audio on Audacity, Garage Band, and Premiere Pro. I created

1280
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: our media kit. I taught myself how to cut social

1281
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: media clips, how to create social media content like audiograms

1282
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: and videos and anything that I felt we needed as

1283
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 4: marketing material. And those are things that sometimes you have

1284
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: to pay if you don't know how to do it.

1285
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 4: So I literally taught myself on YouTube. I would go

1286
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 4: in and be like, okay, how do I split this track?

1287
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 4: And there's YouTube videos for literally everything. So for people

1288
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: who maybe have a job but don't have the money

1289
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 4: to invest in cameras or equipment or studio time or

1290
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: outsourcing all of these these jobs, you can teach yourself

1291
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 4: how to do it. And it's editing audio is fairly simple.

1292
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: It is. It's fairly simple.

1293
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 5: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen, the blueprint or

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Speaker 5: how to make money on the podcast. A lot of

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Speaker 5: jewelry in that in that segment, for sure. So last segment,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna bring it home with a few

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Speaker 5: more actionable items in scaling model for you going forward.

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Speaker 5: All right, so we're gonna we're gonna close it out.

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Speaker 5: But before we do, I want to Troy, can you

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Speaker 5: just tell because a lot of people always ask I

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Speaker 5: get this question so much my personal page or your

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Speaker 5: leisius DM what mics we use with cameras. We want

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Speaker 5: to try to help people as much as we can

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Speaker 5: possibly can to get them up and started running at.

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Speaker 2: I kind of did an episode on Universe and University.

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Speaker 2: We give the whole entire exact thing. I actually brought

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Speaker 2: the boxes down, like yo, this is the box. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But so for the mice, we were looking at industry standards.

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Speaker 2: So we kept watching podcasts and I'm like, yo, listen,

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Speaker 2: that's the one we need. I went to the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we need that. So the mice we use

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Speaker 2: or the shore at the seven B mics and they're

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Speaker 2: like the industry standard, that's hu r e sure, sure yeah,

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Speaker 2: s hu are e yep. And they run about four

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars. They're pricey, but they get the job done.

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Speaker 2: So if you look at the early episodes, even on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: we got wired on the table, we got like the

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Speaker 2: shotgun stands and it's like audio was terrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's and yeah. I think mics are probably one

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Speaker 4: of the most important.

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Speaker 2: Our voice needs to be heard. It has to be

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Speaker 2: so we try to get something that would canceled out

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Speaker 2: noise and capture everything that we're saying.

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Speaker 4: Can I say what not to do that? I see

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Speaker 4: a lot of new podcasters doing and I wish they

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Speaker 4: would stop. There's a mic that you just sit down.

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Speaker 4: It's supposed to be a globe mic. Oh yeah, stop

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Speaker 4: doing it. If you have guests, if you have more

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Speaker 4: than one host, it does it picks up everything and

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Speaker 4: it literally sounds like you're in a bathroom. And we

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Speaker 4: struggled with audio even being in the studio sometimes like

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Speaker 4: or even you know, guests would lean back or come on.

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Speaker 4: You can't change that. So there's nothing you can do

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Speaker 4: with even when you're editing audio. But when you have

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Speaker 4: just a globe and you can't multi track accession, forget

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 2: Multi track is important.

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Speaker 4: Multi track is very important. So if you're going to

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Speaker 4: have a podcast with five hosts, you need five mics.

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Speaker 4: Just know that every every person needs.

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Speaker 2: To have their own mind important and listening to. Like

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Speaker 2: what's multi tracking? So multi track means like every mic

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Speaker 2: has a track that goes into where it's recording from.

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Speaker 2: So right now our laptop is recording three different tracks

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Speaker 2: the three different mics. So we have four guests before and.

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Speaker 4: Fright, So if I came here and I was talking

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Speaker 4: like this most of the episode, they could actually turn

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Speaker 4: my levels. And then once you compress all of the

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Speaker 4: files together, it's just one MP three or wave track

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Speaker 4: and then it all sounds fine. But you can actually

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Speaker 4: adjust levels if you're a multi trider.

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Speaker 2: Most people like we like to use Wave because it

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Speaker 2: keeps the audio and it's purest form.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the files are also a.

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Speaker 2: Lot larger, a lot larger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, larger space is important.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have space. So yeah, we gotta. We got

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Speaker 2: like one of the highest tiers of the Google Drive

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Speaker 2: because we have not only do we do the audio,

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Speaker 2: but we also obviously do the visuals. Right, and so

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about large files, like every time

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Speaker 2: we do an episode, we're talking about sixty gigs per camera, right,

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Speaker 2: So that's.

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Speaker 4: Important to And if you have Patreon, they don't allow

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Speaker 4: large files. So Patreon is m P three upload and yeah,

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Speaker 4: wave files are large cameras.

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Speaker 2: So we went we for the cameras. We obviously we

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Speaker 2: started with the iPhones. But we got these looming gets

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Speaker 2: some iPhones like straight up and I'm talking like iPhone six,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, exactly. But we got the job done

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Speaker 2: the content.

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Speaker 5: With he had he had an iPhone six.

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Speaker 3: I never had.

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Speaker 2: I had the eight, had the eight eight plus, I

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Speaker 2: had a ten. I had a eight plus.

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Speaker 4: Ok, that's plus.

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Speaker 2: No, I got the six from my pops. I got

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Speaker 2: the six from my pops because he just got his

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Speaker 2: first cell phone. But now we got the Lumix cameras,

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Speaker 2: and somebody actually asked me, why do we use the

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Speaker 2: Lumix ones New Mix ninety Five's it's because we want

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Speaker 2: to record in HD and most cameras if you even try,

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Speaker 2: like they'll let you record not ead four K.

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Speaker 4: They let you report thirty minutes at allynutes.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. Seems you have to take it out

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Speaker 4: sport and then put it back.

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Speaker 2: In hopefully, hopefully they'll cut us a check out of this.

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Speaker 2: But the Lumics ninety five it's unlimited four K. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so like that was like a huge thing because like

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Speaker 2: a lot of our content is like an hour long,

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Speaker 2: so when we recording four K, there's no time limit

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Speaker 2: to it. Okay, but part of that is like you

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Speaker 2: have to have storage for it too, so like having

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Speaker 2: large uh scan disc five twelve gigabytes just to hold

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Speaker 2: an episode. So that's that's pricey too, because it was

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Speaker 2: like two hundred dollars apiece, right, so getting multiples of

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Speaker 2: those and then when you start recording two or three

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Speaker 2: episodes in a week, and it's like all right, we

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Speaker 2: gotta start shipping these off so we can eraise and

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01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: create more files. But like that's the most important things,

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Speaker 2: like unlimited four K recording. That's why we chose these cameras.

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Speaker 5: And also what I learned is that you can actually

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Speaker 5: make a movie on the iPhone because what I learned

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 5: is that uh lighting is the most important thing. If

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Speaker 5: you have bad lighting, you can have the best cameras

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Speaker 5: in the world. It's not going to you, guys, we

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01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 5: had we had best the lights because it's like lighting

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Speaker 5: changes everything. You got an iPhone with good lighting and

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Speaker 5: it looks just like any camera lighting, So that's it.

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Speaker 5: That's that's another tip. Lighting is extremely lights.

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Speaker 2: Do we so we got the g v M the

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Speaker 2: great uh Maker lights. We went to B and H

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: said what can we get for a relatively respectable price

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01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: and get three of them? Right, so if you look

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: like obviously they know the green wall that that's my

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Speaker 2: dining room, it lights the room up a little bit differently.

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Speaker 4: And you can also just get ring lights on Amazon

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: as well. Those are very very.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get them, That's what I saying. And

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01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: people think like, oh, it's a podcast, but I'm like,

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: now we need all this like some people have seen

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01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: us in the airport right, They're like, no, where are

1424
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: y'all going with all this?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, we're a podcast carrying my retractable banner.

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Speaker 4: I carry my my phone in my I mean my

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Speaker 4: my my microphone and my book bag. And of course

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Speaker 4: that has to go through the scanner.

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Speaker 3: Like what do you do then? And then we upload

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Speaker 3: the audio to garage man, Yeah, I use it.

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Speaker 2: So the audio right now is going into garage garage band.

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Speaker 3: What is that?

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Speaker 2: So that is our interface, that's what we're recording on.

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Speaker 2: So everything people like to use logic, some people want

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Speaker 2: to use other things. I'm like, yo, listen, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: use garage band because it came with the Mac and

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: So for people that have no idea about computers, like myself,

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Speaker 5: what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Like what is garage garage band? So like right now

1441
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: we're talking right, garage band is recording it right. So

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Speaker 2: once that happens, now we can turn volumes up or

1443
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: turn them down, or we can edit parts out, or

1444
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: we can add ads into the space.

1445
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: You can add sound, you can split.

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Speaker 2: The tracks for the exactly.

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Speaker 4: So there's garage been and like I mentioned earlier, for

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Speaker 4: post production, I've focused now on Audacity using Premiere Pro,

1449
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 4: which Premiere Pro is very pricey, But what you could

1450
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 4: do is actually purchase the Adobe Suite and pay twenty

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01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 4: dollars a month, which is what I do, so instead

1452
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 4: of spending one thousand dollars on the Adobe sweet or

1453
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: however much it is. It's very pricey for the Adobe Suite.

1454
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 4: You get Premiere Pro, you get Photoshop, you get power

1455
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: PowerPoint is Microsoft, but you get all of these resources

1456
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: that you can use to edit and create contents.

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Speaker 5: And one thing I told I paid one thing I was,

1458
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 5: I was, I was crazy. One of our favorite episodes

1459
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Speaker 5: is Chris Gotti shout out to Chris he irv Gotti's brother.

1460
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 5: I used to run Murder Inc. And he said something

1461
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Speaker 5: that was extremely key. He said for independent artists music artist,

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 5: he was like, you're not competing with other independent artists.

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Speaker 5: You're competing with Drake, even though you don't know it.

1464
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Speaker 5: So he's like, in a club, like having your record

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01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 5: mixed and masters is extremely imp because like in the club,

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Speaker 5: when they played the record and it doesn't hit, nobody's

1467
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Speaker 5: gonna say, oh, they just didn't have the budget, they're

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 5: gonna listen to it like it doesn't sound like how

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Speaker 5: Drake And that's the whole point of having your music

1470
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Speaker 5: mixed and mastered. And it's the same thing with the podcast,

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Speaker 5: like the audio. And that's what I remember. I was

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Speaker 5: telling Troy and like, I was like, we're not because,

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Speaker 5: as I said before early in the podcast, we're independent.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 5: We're not on any channel, we're not signed to anybody,

1475
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 5: so we're doing all this ourselves. But I'm like, we

1476
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Speaker 5: wanted the top business podcasts in the world, so we're

1477
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Speaker 5: not competing.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact in the world. But so when I

1479
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 3: was telling them, like.

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Speaker 5: Look, we're not we're not competing with with other independent

1481
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Speaker 5: business podcasts. We're competing with Wall Street Journal, Gary V.

1482
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 5: Grant Cardon, so our audio needs to sound like them

1483
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 5: because there are competitors. So I was like, in the car,

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Speaker 5: I'll be listening to it and like I said, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: turn it up.

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Speaker 3: It needs to sound louder. They're like, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 3: it needs to sound louder. Like he's going back and forth.

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Speaker 2: This is what we learned. That's when I learned, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm sending him the MP three when I listen to it.

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Speaker 4: It's a wave file, so that turning up the levels

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: to where a lot of our Number one audience is

1492
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 4: in New York. To me, if I can't hear you

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Speaker 4: on the train, it's a problem. So now I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I would much rather people turn us down. Once you're

1495
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 4: turned up, you can't turn up no more. You can

1496
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 4: turn down love like you can turn a phone down.

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01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 4: So to me, as long as you're not hearing a static,

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Speaker 4: I want to be sure everyone is at their highest level.

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Speaker 4: I speak loud, my co host speaks loud. When we

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Speaker 4: have guests, I want them or their levels up. And

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 4: to me, it's making sure we can be heard on

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01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 4: a train in New York City. That's what my goals

1503
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 4: to stand for audience that should be the same.

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Speaker 2: It's a learning lesson. It was like, yo, you would

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01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 2: call us yo. This is how y'all even listening to this?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, bro, it sounds fine when I'm listening

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: to it, and then I realize, like, oh, when I

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: have to send it to him he listens to the

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 2: MP three version, I'm like, okay, that's why.

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01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 4: The same way certain music bumps through headphones and you

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 4: can hear them listening through headphones. I want I want

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: you to have to turn down your head.

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Speaker 3: That was my guy. I put it, I put it,

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01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: he didn't. I kept telling Toy.

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Speaker 5: I kept telling Toy like, Yo, it doesn't sound it

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01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 5: doesn't sound good, Like it's not a lot. He's like, no,

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 5: it's loud enough. I'm like, come in my car. So

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01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 5: he came my car and I played the radio. I

1519
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 5: played the radio on the highest level possible and like,

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 5: blow the speakers out. I'm like, that's how it should sound,

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01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 5: the highest level. Then I played our audio on the

1522
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 5: highest level and it didn't sound anything close to that,

1523
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 5: And like, like you said, it's rather I'd rather people

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01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 5: turn it down, turn all the way up, and it's

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 5: still not loud enough.

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 4: I agree. And that's where I mean. We've struggled a

1527
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 4: lot of people know with our sound for a lot.

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01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 4: But we've changed engineers. Again, I was doing some of

1529
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 4: the editing for a long time, so it's me changing.

1530
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 4: But again, when you have people talking away from Mike,

1531
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: there's only so much you can do. And I'm not

1532
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 4: the one who can adjust your level for this sentence,

1533
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 4: but not the rest of your chary like there's there's

1534
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 4: just a lot when it comes to audio that even

1535
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 4: regular podcasting engineers aren't gonna do. So it's really also

1536
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,520
Speaker 4: making sure you perfect your craft into talking into the microphone,

1537
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: projecting your voice and making sure that everyone is hearing everything.

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 5: That's the fact. That's the fact. That's yeah, extremely important important.

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: So ra after that car visit, I went aside, I

1540
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: was like studying, how do you do this?

1541
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

1542
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 5: It's like I always, I always, I'm always like a pestimist,

1543
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 5: Like I always like everything could go right, but then

1544
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 5: it's like one thing that went wrong and I'm like

1545
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 5: I can't sleep, Like I lose sleep over stuff like that.

1546
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: So it's like that's a.

1547
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 4: Good way to And I just watched that Kevin Hart

1548
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 4: documented and I was like, we're a lot alike. And

1549
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: I know people were coming down on him on some

1550
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 4: certain things, but I was like, I was like that

1551
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: me in a Little Black Man body because me and

1552
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 4: him are the same.

1553
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: I watched I randomly, it just came on and I

1554
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: just started playing. I actually watched the entire season. I

1555
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: was like the first time, I.

1556
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 4: Thought it was three episodes. No, it's like seven. I

1557
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 4: just watched. I literally watched from the beginning to end.

1558
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: But in this space as people, I would never tell

1559
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: someone to quit their job and chase their dreams. That

1560
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 4: is not realistic, and you need money to live, you

1561
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 4: need money to invest. So I would never tell someone

1562
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 4: to quit their job and go for it starting from

1563
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 4: the beginning, which is why I didn't quit school, which

1564
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 4: is why I didn't quit my offer and just be like, well,

1565
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a podcaster now I can make

1566
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: it happen. I think that that's unrealistic, and a lot

1567
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 4: of us do need to still have our income coming

1568
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 4: in if we want to be able to invest in equipment,

1569
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: invest in building a team, invest in learning like a lot.

1570
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 4: There's a lot of portals, there's a lot of books,

1571
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: there's a lot of things that we have to pay

1572
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 4: for that information. So I think it's important to keep working,

1573
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 4: keep money flowing in, and then invest until you find

1574
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 4: a company.

1575
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 2: We say that old time man, you're nine to five

1576
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: is your first investor. So you know what I appreciate,

1577
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: And I said this to you earlier. It was like,

1578
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: just because of what you talk about on your podcast,

1579
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: people think you lack intelligence. Yes, you're You're brilliant, So

1580
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you.

1581
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 4: And it's funny because my friend used to shout out

1582
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 4: to him. He's like like, we'll be talking and I'll

1583
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 4: send him my media kit that I made on Campa

1584
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 4: and he's like, Yo, you never see's too amaze. What girl,

1585
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 4: It's just like, here's my media kit that I made

1586
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 4: on Campa. While also editing audio, and like I was saying,

1587
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 4: like it is unfortunate that as women we can't be

1588
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 4: sexually liberated or be a hoe and also be smart.

1589
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: So and it's also a part of me. I'm not

1590
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 4: able to share as much on the podcast. But like

1591
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 4: even before you know, we met, and my friend that's

1592
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,520
Speaker 4: here now, like she knew me when I was interviewing

1593
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: for the Obama administration. At one point I was working

1594
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 4: I worked for the Department of Financial Services, Coleman Sachs

1595
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 4: E why and when you say these names are so

1596
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 4: prestige And even when we were talking about separating my

1597
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 4: government with my alias, I was just like, oh, yeah,

1598
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 4: they have no idea. And then even when I go

1599
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 4: into these interviews and I'm landing these interviews and they're like,

1600
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 4: what are you saying to these people? Because I know you, girl,

1601
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 4: what are you saying to them? And I'm like, you know,

1602
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: I turn it on and off. But then as soon

1603
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 4: as I got hired, you getting me. So I'm like, yeah,

1604
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: I got that for you. What's going on. I'm already hired.

1605
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 4: Y'all paid a lot of money for me to have

1606
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 4: my benefits and to get me in the door. You

1607
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: can't fire me because you don't like how I talk.

1608
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: So once I got in the door, I was very

1609
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 4: much myself, still getting my braids and doing things in

1610
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 4: corporate America that it's kind of hard like and it

1611
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 4: was a challenge to have to turn it on and off,

1612
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 4: but I did it. And so again, you can have

1613
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,759
Speaker 4: a podcast where you talk about hopefully not killing people,

1614
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 4: but you could talk about this thing and have a

1615
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: completely different life with your nine to five.

1616
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: And it'd be okay about it.

1617
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 5: Like I said, I say, it's all twer and Alisha

1618
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 5: is a tent that welcome to everybody. Yes, and we

1619
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 5: have people from all walks of life. We have people

1620
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 5: that went to Harvard, people that did twenty years in jail,

1621
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:08,440
Speaker 5: turning citizens yup. We have people that have sex Kink podcast.

1622
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 5: But you know, the good thing is that everybody has

1623
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 5: a story, everybody especially everybody has a business story, and

1624
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 5: there's there's somebody that can relate to everybody. So did

1625
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 5: I say that correctly? Yeah, it's somebody everybody somebody, you

1626
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 5: know what I.

1627
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: Mean, one of those things.

1628
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, But.

1629
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I mean, I mean, I and for you

1630
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 4: guys to have Harvard graduate. I went to a city university.

1631
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 4: I went to Lehman. Didn't know about it. I'm from Florida.

1632
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know about before you guys. I didn't

1633
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 4: know about Baroke. I didn't know about none of these schools.

1634
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 4: I was like, I remember, I'm not even gonna lie

1635
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 4: to you. I remember when I was looking for schools

1636
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 4: to go to. I was like, I need to get

1637
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 4: back into school because I don't want to be a

1638
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 4: receptionist at a temp agency or a bartender for the

1639
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 4: rest of my life. So I'm looking at schools and

1640
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 4: all I knew Fordham, Columbia and what is that rock What.

1641
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, that's in Jersey. That's not an option.

1642
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 4: So I'm like, Okay, Fordham or Columbia. I said, forty

1643
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: eight thousand a year for Fordham. That was foredam I said, Okay,

1644
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 4: there has to be other options. So I've figured out

1645
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 4: what a city university was, and that's the thing me

1646
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 4: going to Lehman and not even Baruk to be able

1647
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 4: to not be at a school where even people would

1648
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 4: go and recruit. I'm in the face of Goldman, I'm

1649
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 4: in the face of a Big four. I'm sending my

1650
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 4: resume off to the White House and going through the

1651
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 4: entire interview process where I know I'm competing against Fordham students,

1652
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 4: Harvard students, Howard students and having those opportunities and not

1653
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 4: allowing the QUNI system to deter me from this York

1654
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah man.

1655
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, well man, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for

1656
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 5: joining us.

1657
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: Welcome to the alumni.

1658
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thank you, thank you.

1659
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 4: And if anyone has any questions relating to podcasting, listen

1660
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 4: back to this episode. No, but I do want to

1661
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Speaker 4: give a shout out to you, my friend if I can,

1662
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Speaker 4: Carlo will Marris, if you guys are looking to start

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Speaker 4: your podcast, she offers a portal, so I know again

1664
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Speaker 4: I found you guys through Alex who has the trucking

1665
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Speaker 4: industry portal. And again, thank you for that episode. I'm

1666
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 4: looking to now invest so you what, yes, listen, listen.

1667
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Speaker 4: But my friend Carlo will Marris, she has a launch

1668
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1669
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Speaker 4: It's a five week portal literally from start to finish

1670
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Speaker 4: you can get your podcast off of the ground. So

1671
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1672
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Speaker 4: in my dance. A lot of people hit me up.

1675
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Speaker 4: I don't offer the services of coaching and mentoring. I

1676
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 4: did it. I don't want to be responsible for how

1677
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: you go about your business. This was my journey. But

1678
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 4: I don't have the time to, you know, answer all

1679
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 4: these questions. But for the people that offer that, I

1680
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 4: want to give a shout out to them. So Carla

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Speaker 5: Podcast and how can people check your podcast out and

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Speaker 5: your social media.

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Speaker 4: not gonna lie white people. We talk about y'all, but

1689
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Speaker 4: it is a safe space for black people wanting to

1690
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Speaker 4: listen to sex, dating and relationship conversations. You can catch

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Speaker 4: health based. It's going to me talk about, well I'm

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Speaker 4: going through going into college as a non traditional adult,

1701
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Speaker 4: so I didn't go straight out of college. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to talk about growing up in a single parent household,

1703
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Speaker 4: being biracial, leaving my corporate job, anxiety, and it's kind

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Speaker 4: of going to be like a chapter book through my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to everybody on patreon dot com or

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Speaker 2: our patriots. We have some new ones and is an

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Speaker 2: Somebody gives them a Patreon membership. So shout to uh

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Speaker 2: I think comes in at a tier four or five,

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01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: so he'll be getting eyl University. He has access to that.

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01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: And that is our weekly school. Really, I heard you

1718
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: and I say, I said, yo, my dad got a school. Yes,

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: that is also at our school three days a week.

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: We are dropping a lot of education right Mondays we

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01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 2: have Matt that uh mg, the mortgage guy who talks

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01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: about different aspects of real estate. And Wednesday we have

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01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: a guest webinar with some of our alumni and some

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: people who are just experts in their field. And Thursday

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01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: kind of our floating day. And I always do a

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01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: podcast about something related in business. We've done a podcast lesson,

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 2: a lesson I'm sorry, We've got a webinar. Webinar and

1728
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: also I know you.

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 4: Guys listen to the podcast, follow them on Instagram. You

1730
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 4: guys go live almost every day, but live with a

1731
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 4: lot of just entrepreneurs and alumni.

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 2: I see lives.

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01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 4: And the lives are like really no, so follow them

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01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 4: on Instagram too. Because I follow them, I'll be like,

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01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 4: oh they going live, let me leave met TV and larn.

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01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: So it's like like when we go lives usually like

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01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 2: I'll go on he goes on his page. But I

1738
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: like watching people call in. So it's like Instagram. They

1739
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: need to come with a function where we can have

1740
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: like a party call, like we can both be on

1741
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 2: and we can take it or take a gain, because

1742
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 2: that's what I really like seeing. I'm like, yo, somebody

1743
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: called it from London. I'm like yo, I'm tuned in.

1744
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: Like I was like, wow he heard us in London.

1745
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,520
Speaker 2: Somebody called him South Africa. I'm like wow.

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01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 4: The lives are really dope and I appreciate that you.

1747
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,839
Speaker 2: The reach is crazy. Yeah, so shout everybody on Patreon,

1748
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 2: Shout everybody that has been supporting dot com and buying

1749
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: the merchant. Obviously see that we have our Euyo University

1750
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: apparel on today and we're going to be coming to

1751
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 2: Atlanta with a lot more apparel.

1752
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm excited for Atlanta. Yeah, I'll be there I

1753
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 4: bought my ticket, so I'm excited. So anyone who may

1754
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 4: be listening, that's a part of the whore Hive, which

1755
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 4: is what we call the war Hive. If any of

1756
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 4: you guys are in Atlanta and are looking to get

1757
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 4: into any type of investments or just you know, be

1758
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 4: around me, I'll be there, So get your ticket.

1759
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 5: That's a fact. Mandy will be in a building. She

1760
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 5: actually brought her ticket before she even became an alumni. Yeah,

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01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 5: it's a fact she would be there Sunday. So make

1762
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 5: sure I'm telling you. I'm telling you my just saying this.

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01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 5: Atlanta's gonna be crazy, two day event twenty six. We

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01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 5: got all our friends coming. Everybody's coming out. So if

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01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 5: you're in Atlanta, man, don't sleep on it. Make sure

1766
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 5: you make sure you pull up on us for show.

1767
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 5: A book tip of this week is start with why

1768
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 5: great book, great read. So once again, thank you guys

1769
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 5: for rocking with us. We'll see you next week.

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:20,879
Speaker 2: Peace peace, Pease.

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