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Speaker 2: Hey Hurdler's Emily a body popping in to your feed

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Speaker 2: with a really special episode. This is from over the

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Speaker 2: first of all, running is hard, period. Anyone that breeds

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Speaker 3: For men, that.

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Speaker 2: Means a marathon in under two hours and nineteen minutes

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Speaker 2: these are superhumans and I have the opportunity to sit

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Speaker 2: down with three of them at the Brooks Hyperion House

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Speaker 2: down in Atlanta today. I'm bringing you my conversation with

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Speaker 2: all with really special stories, who really showed up over

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Speaker 2: about this is the phrase hometown heroes. These are everyday

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Speaker 2: questions from you guys. How do I start? How do

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Speaker 2: this episode is loaded with gems to get you out

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Speaker 2: to Allison who's made her passion for miles into her

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Speaker 3: You to be a better version of yourself.

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Speaker 2: As usual at Hurdle Podcasts at Emily Abodi on Instagram

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Speaker 2: and Twitter. If you have the moment of your own

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Speaker 3: It's Emily at Hurdle dot us.

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Speaker 2: And lastly, a huge thank you again to the team

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Speaker 2: at Brooks for having me down this weekend. It was

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Speaker 2: so fun to be a part of the energy in

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Speaker 2: So thank you all for making me feel special and

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Speaker 2: for coming along on this ride with me. Hometown heroes

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Speaker 3: I'm clubbing for you.

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Speaker 4: Hey everyone, my name is Emily Abody.

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Speaker 2: I'm a freelance journalist and creator and host of a

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Speaker 3: On Hurdle, I sit down.

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Speaker 2: With inspiring individuals to talk about some of their highest

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Speaker 2: Tell me who you are, where you're from and what

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Speaker 1: I know I'm going to grind, and I could go

444
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: to a negative place and be like those hills sucks,

445
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: I want to stop. Instead of doing that, I automatically

446
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 1: go to the mantra, and so I use that and

447
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: I visualize my race, and as I'm going through the race,

448
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: I say those positive things to myself. And it could

449
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Speaker 1: be anything from like you go girl to like explotives.

450
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what it is, you know, whatever keeps

451
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 1: you going at that time, and that's really helped me

452
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 1: along the way throughout a lot of tough races. I

453
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: flashed back to Boston in twenty eighteen with the terrible Yeah,

454
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: it's like you were. We survived, right, But I really

455
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: relied on those positive things and a lot more than

456
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to have to because the

457
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: conditions were so bad. But we could have stopped, you know,

458
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 1: just like a lot of people did, and we didn't quit.

459
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: And that's because we did that mental work up front

460
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Speaker 1: and stayed positive throughout that.

461
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Speaker 2: You mentioned mantras and mental work for any of the

462
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Speaker 2: three of you. Do you have any specific mantras that

463
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Speaker 2: you go back to continuously or does it kind of

464
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Speaker 2: depend on the race And are these things that you

465
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Speaker 2: work through in your training or again do they just

466
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Speaker 2: come to you on race day.

467
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Speaker 3: I would say one which is in line with kind

468
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Speaker 3: of the trick that I described before is finish line

469
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Speaker 3: is always worth it. That's always in my head. And

470
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Speaker 3: then honestly, just forward motion. That's it. I've done a

471
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Speaker 3: little bit of ultra running, kind of dabbled in that,

472
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: and that comes in very handy in those situations when

473
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Speaker 3: you really just have to keep moving forward at all costs.

474
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Speaker 3: But that works really well in a bad spot in

475
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Speaker 3: a training run or a race or anything like that, because,

476
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Speaker 3: like I said, it always comes around and gets better.

477
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Speaker 3: So forward motion is.

478
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Speaker 5: Probably less of a mantra but more of an action.

479
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 6: So I believe Eliogi came out and he's you know,

480
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 6: he's talked about how it's important to smile when you're running,

481
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 6: and then there's all sorts of research and articles that

482
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 6: came out about like smiling and running and it sounds

483
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 6: like the silliest thing. But recently, when I've been hurting

484
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 6: and these big workouts leading up to today, I find

485
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 6: myself forcing myself to smile and you know, looking silly,

486
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 6: but honestly, it has night and day changed the run.

487
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 6: So that's one of the things that I've I've tried

488
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 6: to focus on when it comes to racing now. It's like,

489
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 6: even if you're hurting, even when it's really hard, especially

490
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 6: when it's really hard, try to smile. You might get

491
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Speaker 6: an extra few percentages.

492
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Speaker 2: I wrote on something for runners well, not all that

493
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: long ago, and in the article, I found some research

494
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: that says when you cheer on other people, it actually

495
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: gives you a boost as well and your performance.

496
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 4: I can it can make you perform a little bit better.

497
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: So just on that smile notion and keeping things positive,

498
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: it definitely can help pay off there on the course.

499
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 2: You mentioned you go girl, But do you have any

500
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Speaker 2: other mantras that you lean into on the road.

501
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Speaker 1: My dad always said hard work pays off, so I

502
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Speaker 1: go to that, and then I always think of my kids.

503
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Speaker 1: I've got two daughters and little dog, and so they

504
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, I never want to disappoint them, but I always,

505
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, want to make them proud and they'll be

506
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: out there on the course tomorrow. So I always think

507
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: of them and go back to you know, just making

508
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Speaker 1: those girls proud.

509
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Speaker 2: I'd love to for a second reflect on the race

510
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: that got all of you to this very specific Olympic trials.

511
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Speaker 2: I know we have a couple veterans up here in

512
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Speaker 2: front of us, but talk to me about what it

513
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: was your experience on the race day that got you

514
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: here and why you reflect on that, hopefully in such

515
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Speaker 2: a positive.

516
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Speaker 4: Light, and anyone can feel free to go first.

517
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Speaker 3: I'll start. So I first qualified in Austin Marathon in

518
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, So that was two years ago, and that

519
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: day was really special for me. So I had been

520
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: a pacer at the Austin Marathon for years where I

521
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: would never race it because it's hilly and hot, and

522
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen I got talked into racing it for

523
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 3: the first time. It was pretty terrible experience. It was

524
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: extremely hot, extremely humid. I did win it, but it

525
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: was the slowest, most painful race of my life. Casual

526
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: of course. Yes. Then then I got talked into coming

527
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: back in twenty eighteen. I said yes, you know, after

528
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: a while kind of the pain fades and you agree

529
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: to anything. So I went back in twenty eighteen. I

530
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: was not planning to qualify for the Olympic Trials there again,

531
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Speaker 3: this is my third round, so I was pretty sure

532
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Speaker 3: I would qualify at some point. I was aiming for

533
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Speaker 3: CIM later that year, but I wanted to run Austin.

534
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Speaker 3: It was my hometown race. I really really liked the

535
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Speaker 3: people that put it on and it just kind of

536
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,959
Speaker 3: made sense. So I jumped into that race. And I

537
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: was actually only a few days back from guiding some

538
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 3: trips in Patagonia. I had flown in I think three

539
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: days beforehand jumped into this race. The weather was better

540
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 3: than usual but not great, and it was just kind

541
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Speaker 3: of one of those magic days, I think it being

542
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Speaker 3: a hometown race, seeing so many friends and family on

543
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: the course, and energy was just really really good. And

544
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: somehow mile twenty came around and I still felt great,

545
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: so I was able to keep pushing and pushing, and yeah,

546
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Speaker 3: I ended up running two forty three on that course,

547
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: which was six minutes faster than the year before. And yeah,

548
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: I got that qualifier, which I was absolutely not expecting.

549
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: So to be surprised with it and to be able

550
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Speaker 3: to do it in my hometown course just really really

551
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: meant a lot. Dylan, what about you?

552
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so from twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen. I spent

553
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 6: the better part of those years injured, so I just

554
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 6: had a lot of issues with consistency and being able

555
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 6: to put together training. I switched coaches at one point,

556
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 6: mostly just dude, because I moved from from one place

557
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 6: to another, and I made a promise to myself that

558
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 6: once I moved that I was going to do everything

559
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 6: possible to get my body back in the correct rhythm again.

560
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Speaker 6: So I mean I needed to do strength training every week,

561
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Speaker 6: so I committed to two days every week. I saw

562
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Speaker 6: PT two days every week. I saw chiropractor one day

563
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 6: every week. I just like I had no money.

564
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 4: But I was going to say an impressive roster I had.

565
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 6: I had very little funding, but I knew that this

566
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 6: was the goal that I wanted to achieve and I

567
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 6: needed to correct some imbalances. So during that year I

568
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 6: was able to finally put together.

569
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Speaker 5: About eight weeks of.

570
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Speaker 6: Positive training leading up to the California International Marathon in

571
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Speaker 6: twenty eighteen. So going into that race, I really just

572
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 6: wanted to turn my mind off and hop in the

573
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Speaker 6: pack of people and just get in qualifire. I didn't

574
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Speaker 6: care what I ran. I just wanted to run two

575
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 6: nineteen or faster, and so over the course of that race,

576
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Speaker 6: it was probably one of the easiest races I've ever

577
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 6: done in my life, because there was fifty guys that

578
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 6: I was just in this pack with and I ended

579
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 6: up feeling really good, and I really did not start

580
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 6: to feel like I was racing a marathon until about

581
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Speaker 6: twenty three miles into the race, which was incredible, and

582
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 6: during that time, I was calculating what I needed to

583
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 6: run that last five k because at this point my

584
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 6: mind was starting to say, hey, you don't need to

585
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Speaker 6: really go that fast.

586
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 5: You know, you can.

587
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 6: Slow down just a little bit and still get away

588
00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 6: with it. Unfortunately I was I had over a minute spare,

589
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 6: and so I didn't mean to, but I took those

590
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 6: miles a little bit easier coming in. And then as

591
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 6: you at California Nationally, around the corner and there's like

592
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 6: two hundred meters left and you can see the finish line,

593
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 6: and so at this point I had new I had qualified.

594
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 6: I didn't care what place I was in because I

595
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 6: was like fortieth or fiftieth. There wasn't really not too

596
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 6: much incentive there. But once I turned that corner and

597
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 6: like I'm getting chills like saying here right now. But

598
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 6: once I turned the corner, I saw the finish line

599
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 6: and I was just in tears. I like, I couldn't

600
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 6: I couldn't control myself. I was just I ran really

601
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 6: really slowly going into that finish line. I just soaked

602
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 6: in as much as I could. I've got you know,

603
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 6: if you look at the photos from that race, I'm

604
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 6: just like full out, like crying, and I've finished the race.

605
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 6: I went like straight to my bag, I grabbed my phone,

606
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 6: I called my mom. I was like, I did it.

607
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 6: I did it, and I was just like, man, I

608
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 6: don't know it was. It's it's overwhelming to me. Still

609
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 6: feeling it, and I've run faster since then. But that's

610
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 6: that's the day that like, I really was able to

611
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 6: see somewhat of a potential in a lot of years

612
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 6: of hardburg payoff, and I was I was really proud

613
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 6: to do it.

614
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Speaker 3: I have chills hearing about it.

615
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

616
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Speaker 2: I also think it's so funny because you say, quote

617
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: I was running really slowly, what is slow?

618
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: And you're right, I was joking. I was definitely jogging.

619
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Speaker 3: A little job. It was a little six minute job.

620
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 6: Maybe I didn't care if I didn't care if it

621
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 6: was to eighteen fifty nine.

622
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Speaker 5: At that point I had a minute despair. I could

623
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Speaker 5: walk it in if I wanted to.

624
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Speaker 3: I was fine, I love it, Okay, And Kelly, what

625
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: about you? What about your your qualifying?

626
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I go back to really friendship and just

627
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: a cool thing about this sport. I mentioned the twenty

628
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: eighteen Boston Marathon that was going to be where I qualified.

629
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Speaker 1: Turns out that didn't happen. But what I what did

630
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: happen was I got on the bus and a girl

631
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: was sitting there with an open seat next to her,

632
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: and I recognize from high school Kira Dematto, and she

633
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: was Kia Carlstrom back then, but we were like high

634
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: school rivals. And I sat down next to her and

635
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. We had this moment

636
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: of like, you know, twenty years ago, we were in

637
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: high school competing against each other, and then in college

638
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: we competed against each other, and then we just didn't

639
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: hear from each other for about a decade. So we

640
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: went out there and we both you know, made it

641
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: through that Boston Marathon. At one point she passed me.

642
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: At another point, I went like two miles before the finish,

643
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: I passed her. I was like not even conscious at

644
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: that point. She was wearing a pink, you know, jacket,

645
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: and I just remember like, yeah, like just kind of

646
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: cheering for when we got to the end, and we

647
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: were both like happy that we made it, but disappointed

648
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: in everything else. And I so we parted ways. We

649
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: were really proud of each other and we made it

650
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: through that and about you know, two weeks after that,

651
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: I talked to my coach and she was like, what

652
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: about Grandma's And I hadn't thought about running in two

653
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: full weeks. I was so messed up from that race.

654
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: I had hypothermia after where it's my feet were cut up.

655
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: I was just like and normally I'm like hell yeah,

656
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: but I was like I need a minute. And I

657
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: had to go back and talk to my husband and

658
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: make sure my family was cool with like a whole

659
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: nother marathon really quick. Meanwhile, we were moving to DC

660
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Speaker 1: and everything else. So I did agree to do it,

661
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Speaker 1: and then I also called up Kira and I was like,

662
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: can you do can you do Grandma's with me? And

663
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: she was like, I need a minute. She did the

664
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Speaker 1: same thing and we both decided to do it. So

665
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Speaker 1: we went up there. My flight was delayed. She got

666
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: me dinner, she picked up my bib. I ended up.

667
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be in a hotel across town,

668
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: and she was right there. She's like, just sleep in

669
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: my room. I slept in her room. Her kids were

670
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: there in a little playpen, and I was like, hey

671
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: on my aunt Kelly, and we took I had the

672
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Elite boss, but she didn't at that time. So because

673
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Speaker 1: we signed up late, and so we decided to take

674
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Speaker 1: the train together, which was an experience. So we took

675
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Speaker 1: the train and it got a little stinky on the train.

676
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: It was a fun experience, but it was kind of stinky.

677
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: There was only one bathroom and it took over the

678
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: whole train. So we we you know, rode the train

679
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: and we got to the start line and we knew

680
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: we were just going to run a conservative race and

681
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: run together, and so we started out and everything was glorious.

682
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: We got to mile thirteen running right together and boom

683
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: she took off and I was like, I'm gonna stick

684
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: with a plan. I'm going to stick with just running

685
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: a conservative race. And I was like, you go, girl,

686
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, like you have fun. And so I ended up,

687
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, sticking to the plan. And about mile eighteen

688
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I passed her and she was not looking good and

689
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: I was like, Kira, you have to make it, like,

690
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: come on girl. So she she picked it up and

691
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: I went by, and so I finished with like two

692
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: forty two. Was, you know, a good race, solid race,

693
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: exactly what I needed to happen, and everything went perfectly. Meanwhile,

694
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: the whole time I was kind of waiting for something

695
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: to happen. I was running a little bit scared after

696
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: making it through Boston, but it went beautifully. I qualified,

697
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: but this is my third time, so I was like, yeah,

698
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: you go me, But where is Kira? And I stayed

699
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: at the line and waited for her and she barely

700
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: made it. She was like had thirty seconds or something.

701
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: And she came across the line and we were crying

702
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: and celebrating, and her parents were there and her kids

703
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: were there, and I was just so proud that we

704
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: could be together in that moment. And really, you know

705
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: what the sport means to have like this community of

706
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: runners and people pulling for each other. It's you know,

707
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: we were rivals in high school and I'd look at

708
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: her and be like, let me, you know, I want

709
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: to beat you all the way. You know, flash forward

710
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: twenty years and I'm just like where, you know, I

711
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: really wanted her to come across that line. I didn't

712
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: care who out of us, you know, had the faster time.

713
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: I wanted both of us to be here. So it's

714
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: really cool. And I just did my shakeout run with

715
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: her today and it's just a neat journey to be

716
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: on with a great friend.

717
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

718
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: I mean, all three of you have different stories, but

719
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: it's clear that you all have a lot of feelings

720
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: about how running, all the feels about how running makes

721
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: you feel. It just makes you feel some kind of ways.

722
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: So when you think about how you feel after a

723
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: good run, what is that? How would you describe that

724
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: post run bliss of sorts?

725
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: I would just say that feeling makes you feel like

726
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: you can pretty much accomplish anything. I don't think there

727
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: much is there's not much that seems that challenging and

728
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: that difficult in comparison to some workouts we've been through.

729
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: So I think the feeling after and especially hard effort,

730
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: really gives you an amplified sense of that feeling that

731
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: you could take on the world and do anything, but

732
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: just having that run on a daily basis, I mean,

733
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: I think you just get that kick every day and

734
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: pretty much everything else is totally manageable. Once you've got

735
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: the run done.

736
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Speaker 6: I'd say I feel clear. I think it's like a

737
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 6: it's a structural component in my life. So when I run,

738
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 6: everything else goes better. So if I have a good run,

739
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 6: I feel good in the morning. I'm able to pursue

740
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: the next the next tasks in my day relatively easy.

741
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: And it's really easy to go from from running.

742
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: And set that up.

743
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, just winning the first thing of

744
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 6: the day. So you wake up, you go for a run,

745
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 6: it's successful, and that kind of leads onto the next

746
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 6: thing that you do. And for me, it's you know,

747
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 6: going to going to work and being social and talking

748
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: to people and helping people. So running is a way

749
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 6: for me to kind of cycle through those thoughts and

750
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 6: allow myself to be more clear when I approach those

751
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 6: things that I have coming up in the day.

752
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: I certainly feel recharged after I run. I use it

753
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: as a time to process my life and stuff. And

754
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: it's funny how people in my life can see you know,

755
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: even you know, my husband obviously we've been together a

756
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: long time. My kids know like, hey, mom, maybe you

757
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: should go for a run right now because you're getting

758
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of crazy and antsy. And then even like my

759
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: soldiers on a deployment, I have been like, okay, so ma'am,

760
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: let don't you go for your run. We've got this

761
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: because I start to get really, you know, I start

762
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: to kind of get like this and I need to

763
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: go for that run to process things and come back

764
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: and be, you know, somebody who's pleasant to work with.

765
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: So it's for me, It really recharges me. It lets me,

766
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, go through and analyze everything that's going on

767
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: in my day. I come back with better ideas, fresher,

768
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: and you know, just able to accomplish.

769
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 3: So much more.

770
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: Kelly, you mentioned before pulling the trigger on Grandma's that

771
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: you consulted with your family because obviously the things that

772
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: running involves, they can involve great sacrifice for the people

773
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: around you. A lot of listeners they reach out to

774
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: me and they say, I feel like I can't run

775
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: because I just can't make it happen.

776
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: You need to make a lot of sacrifices to make

777
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: running happen.

778
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to know.

779
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, aside from the sacrifice of time with

780
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: your family, what would you guys say has been maybe

781
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: one of the biggest sacrifices or shifts that you've had

782
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: to make in your schedules to make a journey like

783
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: this possible for yourself, Because a lot goes in to

784
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: showing up on the starting line here in Atlanta.

785
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 3: I kind of.

786
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Don't think of it as sacrifices as much because I

787
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: love it and I gained so much from running. But

788
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: when I really analyze it like that, you know, I mean,

789
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: there are weeks where we're not going to the museum

790
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: or I'm not going to to you know, be able

791
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: to volunteer at my daughter's swim meet because I've got

792
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: to go and get that twenty two mile run in.

793
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, when I'm out there doing

794
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: that twenty two mile run, my kiddo's stand out there

795
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: with a water table so I can practice, and the

796
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: neighborhood kids like jump in, So you know, I think

797
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: I gain a sense of community from that. I mean,

798
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure I could probably party a lot more, have

799
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: a lot more fun, but I don't think that's who

800
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: I am deep down inside, So it feels less like

801
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: a sacrifice that I will say. You know, I do

802
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: consult the family because it's you know, I mean, it's

803
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: a team effort. My husband goes out and puts water

804
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: bottles out there for me and then takes care of

805
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: the you know, my kids while I'm doing all all

806
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: of those things, and they really make it happen. So

807
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: it's a huge team effort. I have my parents throw

808
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: in to you know, babysit and come and watch kids.

809
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: My in laws have even done it before the first

810
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: time I ran, sim my father in law came to

811
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: watch my kids and he knew nothing about MARATHONI I

812
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: left spry and ready to go, and I came back

813
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: and couldn't walk up and down the stairs. It was like, why,

814
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't get it. So it's just it's a real

815
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: team effort.

816
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: I would agree with what Kelly said. I don't really

817
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: think of it as sacrifices necessarily, because again, the payoff

818
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: and the benefit what we I think most of us

819
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: get out of running is so great. For sure, there's things,

820
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: I mean that get a lot less sleep than I

821
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: could otherwise. They're social events, things like that over the

822
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: years that I guess, in a way, you do sacrifice

823
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 3: in order to reach that level of training. But again,

824
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: I think if I were to look at the converse

825
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: situation not running, I think everything else would not work

826
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: out as well or go as well. I think running

827
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: is a catalyst for basically being able to take charge

828
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: of everything else in my life. At least it's a

829
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: very necessary component of my life. So I would say

830
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: some sleep here and there. I don't have kids, so

831
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: I've got a lot less to juggle for sure. But

832
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: I have had those years where I was putting in

833
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: one hundred mile weeks, working full time coaching, and a

834
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: lot of that was just grinding through it. As I've

835
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: gotten older, I've learned a lot more about balance, about

836
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: getting enough sleep, taking care of myself, because I've realized

837
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: I want to be able to do this for a

838
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: long time. I don't necessarily need to do as much

839
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 3: as possible at all times. I want to be able

840
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: to do enough for as long as I can. So yeah,

841
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 3: that's kind of yeah.

842
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 6: I think it just comes down to a matter of

843
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 6: priorities and where those lie. So where where can you

844
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: give your energy and how much time of that energy

845
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 6: can you give And that's different for everybody. So some

846
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 6: people only have a certain amount of time to give

847
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 6: to running, or to give to their job or whatnot.

848
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 6: So it's important that you find, you know, where that

849
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 6: balance is. Again, it's not going to be equal, but

850
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 6: it's important and kind of like saying, you know, like

851
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: like the lady said here, it's I think it's it's

852
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 6: not a sacrifice. You know, running is definitely something that

853
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 6: has elevated a lot of other things. I sleep better,

854
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 6: you know, I'm definitely going to sleep earlier, I take

855
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 6: care of myself more.

856
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: I'm more cognizant of that.

857
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 6: I tend to eat betther I because running is you know,

858
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 6: is very uh, it's like a very singular activity in

859
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 6: some senses, it's important important to make time for those

860
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 6: social times or family time and to create specific designations

861
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 6: for when and where those priorities lie and when and

862
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 6: how much energy you need to give to them. So

863
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 6: I think it's just a good way of being able

864
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: to Running allows you to break it down in a

865
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 6: way that you can actually see those and make it happen.

866
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: In this era of the highlight reel, I mean obviously

867
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: I just asked you all about like that best race.

868
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: But I think so often in this highlight reel era

869
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: where people are often comparing ourselves to one another on

870
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: Instagram and social media, so much of what we see

871
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: out there is the good stuff. I'm curious to know

872
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: what has a quote unquote failure been in your running

873
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: journey or a particularly difficult time that you truly learn

874
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: from and then became a better runner because of this instance.

875
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: So right after I graduated college, I moved. I went

876
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 3: to school in Florida, moved to Austin, and I really

877
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: wasn't planning to pursue any kind of professional or elite

878
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: running or anything like that. Although I did run in college,

879
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to race locally, so I moved there. I

880
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: found a coach and was kind of training with a

881
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: little group five k ten k type stuff, and pretty

882
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: quick within a month or two of moving there, I

883
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: actually ended up with a pelvic fracture, and so that

884
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: injury put me out for a year. So I was

885
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: about twenty one twenty two years old at this point

886
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: and didn't really know what was going on. By the

887
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: time it got diagnosed as a stress fracture. It was

888
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 3: pretty it was several fractures at that point, didn't really

889
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: have a doctor that had dealt with that, so I

890
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: just kind of tried to cross train through it for

891
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: six weeks and figured it be fine. I just made

892
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: it worse in the end. It was a full year,

893
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 3: and it probably took six or eight months before I

894
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 3: realized I needed to do absolutely nothing for a while.

895
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 3: But this thing was never going to heal. But there

896
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: was a large portion of that year where I was

897
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: pretty sure I would never run again. Didn't really know

898
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: what I was going to do. Started looking at the

899
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: rowing team things like that, trying to find some kind

900
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: of outlet for myself. But I really in my mind

901
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: that was probably going to be it. Of course, it

902
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: got better, you know, it always does. I had a

903
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: great coach at the time who kind of, you know,

904
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: talk some sense into me. Reminded me that when she

905
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: was my age, she didn't even know what running was,

906
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: and she now has a few Masters World records things

907
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: like that. So the time passed, and honestly, I look

908
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: back at it now, it's a very very important experience

909
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: in my life. For one thing, it made me the

910
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: following year I actually picked up and moved to Thailand

911
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: for a year, moved to Asia, something I had always

912
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: kind of wanted to do, but something I don't think

913
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: I ever would have done if I were training kind

914
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: of in that routine and in that grind, because you

915
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: don't break that routine. But because I couldn't run, I

916
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: didn't know what else to do. I use that as

917
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: a catalyst to go totally change up my life. Basically,

918
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: moved to Asia, taught traveled for a year and that's

919
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: kind of been a catalyst for everything I do now,

920
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: which is owning a run travel company. But beyond that,

921
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: it also taught me that I can still be like,

922
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: I can still be myself and I can still be

923
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: a good person with out running. You can take running away.

924
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 3: It doesn't change how what people think of you, It

925
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 3: doesn't change who you are, and it will come back.

926
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: But it kind of taught me that running is not

927
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: the only way that I can define myself, and that

928
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 3: was very important, especially at that age.

929
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, so during very similar to what you just said,

930
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 6: and that so during my heavier years of you know,

931
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 6: basically food restriction, anorexia, and mental illness. Like when those

932
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 6: years got really bad, I had to relearn a lot

933
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 6: of different things, basically what was normal, you know how

934
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 6: what's the right mindset of thinking through things how I

935
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 6: should be physically, And so this took a lot of time,

936
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 6: took a lot of doctor visits. I had a lot

937
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 6: of issues that had to be controlled before I could

938
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: really pursue running and be decent at it. And so

939
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 6: those strategies that I had to learn in those settings

940
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: allowed me to be able to.

941
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 5: Apply that to running.

942
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 6: So, knowing that I have more so of like an

943
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 6: addictive personality, it was important that I didn't just replace

944
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 6: one thing with the other. So it meant that and

945
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 6: you know, I would go overboard and you know, basically

946
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: jump ship with restricting myself for you know, beating myself

947
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 6: up internally to the point to where you know, I

948
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 6: I'd be almost immobile, I couldn't function.

949
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 5: It was important that I didn't just take that sort of.

950
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: Obsessiveness and you know, again addictive traits and just apply

951
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 6: it to running and call it good health. So I

952
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 6: had to make sure that I could relearn a lot

953
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 6: of things that you know, in daily life, but also

954
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 6: in relation to my running, because I needed to make

955
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 6: sure that I didn't just you know, take those and

956
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 6: replace it with something else. And that's something that we

957
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 6: all often tend to do when it comes to when

958
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 6: it comes to mental illnesses, or it comes to anything

959
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 6: that's really like hits you really hard in life. It's

960
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 6: you have to just make sure that you're doing the

961
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 6: right things and taking the steps, and that's a continuous

962
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 6: flow of taking those steps forward.

963
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Kelly, what about you?

964
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: So I mentioned my experience in twenty sixteen. I didn't

965
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: know it was a stress fracture, and I knew that

966
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: I had failed, and it was really hard for me

967
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: to go back. I was teaching at west Point at

968
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: the time, and I taught the last class of women,

969
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: all women at West Point, in hand to hand combat,

970
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: and so those ladies were so all behind me, ready

971
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: to cheer me on, and I was really I didn't

972
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: even know how to go back, you know, to that

973
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: I felt so ashamed of my performance. I didn't at

974
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: the time. It took like two weeks for me to

975
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: get an MRI, so I didn't even know what was

976
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: wrong with my body. I didn't have the picture to

977
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: tell me definitively that I had dropped out of the

978
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: race for a Grade four stress fracture. Not just because

979
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: I felt bad, and it was really hard for me

980
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: to go back and face those cadets who really looked

981
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: up to me, you know, and it took me a

982
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: while to re even share the story. I just kind

983
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: of breathed by it. I was really still focused on

984
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: coming back and focused on recovering from my injury. And

985
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: eventually I was a part of the women's mentorship group

986
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: at West Point, the Corbin Forum, and we were starting

987
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: to do stuff kind of talking about the highs and

988
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: lows of Instagram. It hits the kids at West Point

989
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: really hard, because you know, they they're they're doing some

990
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: really tough stuff and they see their friends out in

991
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: college traveling and climbing mountains and doing cool stuff on Instagram.

992
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: So sometimes that social media really hits the hard. We

993
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: were thinking about ways of you know, sharing kind of

994
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: the lows too, and I've realized that I didn't share

995
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: my lows with them, and so one of our meetings

996
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: I shared with about, you know, twenty five of the

997
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: female cadets. We were all sitting there and I shared

998
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: the story of the twenty sixteen trials and how I

999
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: had failed and how you know, like what that meant

1000
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: to me what that did to me, and you know,

1001
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: we all kind of cried together. Everybody else shared some

1002
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: of their failure stories too. I mean there were people

1003
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: that I looked up to and cadets that I just thought,

1004
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, they've never made a misstep in their lives

1005
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: who shared some of their experiences and failures too, And

1006
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: it was really a powerful experience. It brought us all

1007
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: closer together, and it also showed me. I mean I

1008
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: organized it thinking I'm the teacher, I've got this, you know,

1009
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: but I learned probably more than the cadets did from it.

1010
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: So now I'm not, you know, I'm I'm embracing that

1011
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: and learning from it and moving forward and having a

1012
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: blast here at twenty twenty, and like really making sure

1013
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: that it's fun and I remember why I do this sport,

1014
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: because I truly love running and it brings me so

1015
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: much joy. And sometimes I can get obsessive. I can

1016
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: stress about the watch and what pace I'm running and

1017
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, all of those little things. And if I

1018
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: find myself, now, if I find myself getting to that point,

1019
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: I literally take the garment off. I might even take

1020
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: the regular watch off and just go and remember why

1021
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: I love it and reconnect to why I'm doing this.

1022
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: Also, I think opening up and letting go of that

1023
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: story and sharing that story and what a burden released

1024
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: off of your shoulder, something that you felt like you

1025
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: were probably internalizing absolutely.

1026
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: For so so long.

1027
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the point I think one of the most popular

1028
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 2: questions I get. And obviously my definition of fast personally

1029
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: is different than Dylan's, which is different than everybody else's.

1030
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: But a question I get from a lot of big

1031
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: beginner runners who are trying to find their version of

1032
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: fast is how did you get so fast?

1033
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: So the question I have for the three of you,

1034
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 4: in an appropriate time, I.

1035
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: Would say, is what do you think was the unlock

1036
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: for getting fast?

1037
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: And I'll share a quick story.

1038
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: I sat down with a man named NOx Robinson, and

1039
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: he is a run coach in New York City, and

1040
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: he told me, reflecting on my personal experience at the

1041
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: Boston Marathon, he said, when you let go of the

1042
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: runner that you believed that you were, when you stopped

1043
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: believing that Emily is a nine minute and eight forty

1044
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: five minute pace runner, and you opened up to the

1045
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: possibility that you could be faster, you left her behind

1046
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: and you went to reach for something new.

1047
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: And I thought that was really special.

1048
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: So I'd love for you guys to share, what is

1049
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: the thing that made you understand that you were fast?

1050
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: How did you get fast?

1051
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 6: I think for myself, it was just putting the time in.

1052
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: I did not start as a good runner. I was

1053
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 6: not very good in high school. I walked on to

1054
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: a college. I didn't even race in uniform until my

1055
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 6: third year.

1056
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 5: I wasn't.

1057
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 6: I wasn't someone who you would be that you consider, Hey,

1058
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 6: i'd be sitting on this stage and talking to you

1059
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: about running right now. But that wasn't something that I

1060
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 6: really was concerned about.

1061
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 5: I wasn't.

1062
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 6: I didn't care about what other people thought. I really

1063
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 6: just wanted to be my best and continue being better

1064
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 6: I was. I was really driven by the self transformation

1065
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: that came from running and the amount of.

1066
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 5: Work that it took.

1067
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: It was something that was challenging, but it really fed

1068
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: into that desire, that kind of fire I had to

1069
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 6: continue being better, And for myself, it was just putting

1070
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 6: in the time, trying to take it as slow as possible,

1071
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 6: taking the correct steps, and of course there's a lot

1072
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 6: of I made a lot of mistakes along the way.

1073
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 5: Too.

1074
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 6: We all go overboard at some point, find out what

1075
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: we are capable of, well we're not capable of, and

1076
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 6: continuing just to try and you know, break that down

1077
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 6: and figure out what it is that's going to continue

1078
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 6: moving us forward, even if there's minor setbacks. So for myself,

1079
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 6: it was really just putting in the time, staying focused

1080
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 6: on that day, and just having this long term mindset

1081
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 6: of like, Okay, I'm not very good right now, but

1082
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 6: if I continue to commit my time to this, my

1083
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 6: energy to this, I'm going to be good later. And

1084
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 6: so that was something that I really put all my

1085
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 6: money on, was that everything that I do today is

1086
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 6: going to affect me a year, two years, or.

1087
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 5: Ten years down the road.

1088
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: Alison, when you started running, did you ever think that

1089
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: you would say the sentence I came in first in

1090
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: that race.

1091
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: No, definitely not again. I've run for a long time.

1092
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: I was always a good athlete. But I, like Dylan said,

1093
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: I think everything's consistency. If I were to look back

1094
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: over the course of my whole journey as a runner,

1095
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: it's just been the fact that I've been out there

1096
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 3: doing it day after day after day. It's something that's

1097
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: as ingrained in my daily routine as brushing my teeth

1098
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 3: or something like that. It's something I've always done, so

1099
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 3: I think that's where a lot of that came from.

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00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: But no, I mean, I ran in college, but it

1101
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: was D two. I was decent in those circles. But

1102
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: really my breakthrough was kind of post college.

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00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 5: Again.

1104
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: I had no plans to race professionally or anything like that.

1105
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: But after that injury, I moved to Asia for a year.

1106
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: I came back and kind of fell into this team

1107
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: in Austin, and the coach there they were creating kind

1108
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: of a post collegiate development team, and he literally came

1109
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: up to me and said, you're really not fast enough

1110
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 3: to be on this team, but I can't recruit any girls.

1111
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: Unless I have some girls. You might be an okay,

1112
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: marathon or do you want to be on this team?

1113
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, I don't know if that's

1114
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: a compliment or not, but let's try it. So I

1115
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: just kind of started training and started ramping up my

1116
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 3: leage and just doing the work day and day out,

1117
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: and it began to pay off. And you know, a

1118
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: year later, it qualified for my first Olympic trials, and

1119
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: here I am twenty years as it's been now.

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Speaker 4: That was in twenty twelve, probably thirteen.

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00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 3: Eleven was eleven, So yeah, tw nine years later, still

1122
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 3: doing it. But I would say in terms of racing

1123
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: and kind of a few like breakthrough races I've had

1124
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: really came from when I made myself race rather than

1125
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 3: worry about pace. I think we all get very fixated

1126
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: on actual paces and plans and strategies. And I had

1127
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: a few opportunities where I just stopped looking at that

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00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 3: went into it because maybe there was someone I was

1129
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: competitive with, or the race itself, you know, I was

1130
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: trying to make prize money, whatever it was, or I

1131
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: just let go of those paces and just ran the race,

1132
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: and all of my movements were dictated by whoever the

1133
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 3: people were that I was racing, And in those situations

1134
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: I ran much much faster than I ever would have

1135
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 3: imagined or would have done if I were just fixated

1136
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: on pace. So I think a lot of that, yeah,

1137
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: is just letting go of the watch and the numbers,

1138
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: and you can really do a lot more than you.

1139
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 5: Think you can do.

1140
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: So for me, I think about a few times where

1141
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: first in high school, I switched high schools from I

1142
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: moved from Texas to Virginia halfway through high school. And

1143
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: when I got to Virginia, my new coach he believed

1144
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: in me and he gave me a plan to get

1145
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: better and that was huge. I mean I got a

1146
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: lot better. I then ran at NC State, you know,

1147
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: arrived with like I'm awesome. I was number one on

1148
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: my team, quickly got humbled and had to learn to

1149
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: really work. And then I remember the race where I

1150
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: believed in myself. It was running you know, the mile

1151
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: at the Duke Invitational, and there were some of the

1152
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: girls on the team that were they were Kagas. They

1153
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: were awesome, super fast ladies, and they intimidated me. They

1154
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: were upperclassmen. And during that race, I had the opportunity

1155
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: to pass them, and I did and I ended up

1156
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: beating them, and it was it was huge for me

1157
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: to believe in myself that I you know, I could

1158
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: have held back, and I could have said, well, they're

1159
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: faster than me, they have faster prs than I don't

1160
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: deserve to be up there. But instead I believed in

1161
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: myself and I pushed past what I you know, them

1162
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: and what I thought, you know, was really just a

1163
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: mental barrier that I had. I put them in on

1164
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: this pedestal and you know, that was my pr race

1165
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: in college and it was just fantastic. And then moving

1166
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: forward into the marathon. I got the opportunity to join

1167
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: the World Class Athlete program for the Army in twenty ten.

1168
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: And when I got there, I started having some really

1169
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: good workouts and we had another girl on our team

1170
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: and she had way faster prs than me. Again, and

1171
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: my coach was like, hey, you're pretty good workouts. You

1172
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: might be able to be Emily, And I was like really,

1173
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: And we went out there and did a race and

1174
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: you know the same thing. I had to reach into

1175
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: that same place because I put her on this pedestal

1176
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I had seen her for years and just believing in yourself,

1177
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: not letting those you know, mental hang ups get you,

1178
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: and like putting other people in a place where you

1179
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: know you're going to hold yourself back.

1180
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: It's so special what happens when you become your own

1181
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: hype man?

1182
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: Right, Yes. Yeah.

1183
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: So the way that I wind down the podcast on

1184
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: the show, I ask my guests to reflect on some

1185
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: of the tough times that we talked about and what

1186
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: they would do right now if they have the opportunity

1187
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: to offer themselves one piece of advice. So right now,

1188
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: what I want you to do is, I want you

1189
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: to visualize this race. I want you to visualize Saturday

1190
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: and you're running and you hit one of those tough moments,

1191
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: one of those moments that you have to really dig deep.

1192
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: You have an opportunity right now to offer yourself one

1193
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 2: piece of advice to push through and get everything that you've.

1194
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: Been working for. What is it that you tell yourself personally,

1195
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 3: I would just remind myself to have fun. This is

1196
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: such a special experience to be here, to be part

1197
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: of it. Everybody on that start line has worked so

1198
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: hard and is so excited to be there, And any discomfort,

1199
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Speaker 3: any of those periods in the race, it's fleeting, it's

1200
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: going to pass, and just the honor of being here

1201
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: is so great. So really, just remember to have fun

1202
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: and really soak in the experience all of it, whether

1203
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 3: it's good point or a bad point in the race.

1204
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't avoid pain.

1205
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: You know.

1206
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: The marathon is a hard event.

1207
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 6: You're gonna be out there for two hours plus and

1208
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 6: it's gonna take everything that you have to be able

1209
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 6: to have the most successful day that you want to have.

1210
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 6: So if you expect that it's gonna be easy and

1211
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a breeze and you're gonna do well

1212
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 6: and you're gonna make a team, it's it's unrealistic, you know,

1213
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 6: to really be able to achieve something that is bigger

1214
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 6: than yourself or you know, something that is up to

1215
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 6: your standards, it's gonna take a lot of vulnerability and

1216
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 6: it's gonna take a lot of stress and strain, and

1217
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 6: you have to be ready for that. I'm a big

1218
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 6: believer that you have to be able to make the

1219
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 6: decisions before they happen, so you can visualize the race,

1220
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 6: you can visualize how it's going to go. But it's

1221
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 6: good to do that mental prep to be able to

1222
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 6: you know, know that, hey, the pain's gonna come, but

1223
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 6: I expected it to come instead of my mind, you know,

1224
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 6: going into it's going into fight or flight remote.

1225
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 5: You know, I want to be able to fight rather

1226
00:55:59,080 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 5: than fly away.

1227
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 6: So you know, if I had to tell myself something,

1228
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 6: it's just to you know, to stay strong, but to

1229
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: expect the pain, and for lack of a better term,

1230
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 6: you know, pain is temporary, but we have to expect.

1231
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: It, and I would tell myself and will tell myself

1232
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: to be grateful. I'm really grateful to be out here,

1233
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: grateful to be healthy after such a long journey of

1234
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, coming back from injuries and dealing with other stuff.

1235
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: I am so stoked to be out there with this

1236
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: incredible field of the best women in the nation, you know,

1237
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: running alongside the best men in the nation out.

1238
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: There as well.

1239
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: Just really be grateful for this incredible experience.

1240
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: Well, I know we will all be out there tearing

1241
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: you guys on on Saturday if you want to follow

1242
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: Hurdle at Hurdle podcast also at Emily Body on Instagram.

1243
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to watch all of you another hurdle conquered.

1244
00:56:48,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time. Toy in my hair.