Speaker 1: What's that as spooky?
Speaker 2: Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead.
Speaker 3: He's coming this way. Wait a minute, I sa.
Speaker 1: Nandas please Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to
Speaker 1: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast.
Speaker 2: Where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, one of my favorite comedians is on
Speaker 2: the show today, Joel Kim Booster. He's iconic. You've seen
Speaker 2: him on lots of television, on stages, on screens, and
Speaker 2: fun fact, he lives in a house that has a
Speaker 2: ghost in it. What a dream guest. But before we
Speaker 2: get to that, I want to read a story. This,
Speaker 2: of course, was sent to my email ghosted by Roz
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. It was written out nice and
Speaker 2: wonderfully in about one or two paragraphs, just as you
Speaker 2: could do if you'd like me to read one on
Speaker 2: the show. This one comes from eber Lynne, who writes, Hi, Roz,
Speaker 2: I wanted to share with you my ghost story that
Speaker 2: happened in twenty seventeen. There's a little timeline here, okay,
Speaker 2: so it says August twenty seventeen, I move into a
Speaker 2: new house with my daughter. October twenty seventeen. One weekend
Speaker 2: in October, my daughter is with her father for the
Speaker 2: weekend and I am home by myself, about to enjoy
Speaker 2: some takeout and binge watch TV shows. It turned into
Speaker 2: a seven hour binge of Tyler the Medium, a popular
Speaker 2: show on E that in no way, shape or form
Speaker 2: I would have been allowed to growing up due to religion.
Speaker 2: My mother always told me that believing an astrology or
Speaker 2: psychics was a way to open myself to the devil. Tonight,
Speaker 2: I ignored what she'd been telling me my whole life.
Speaker 2: Nothing bad would really happen right at a girl. Finally,
Speaker 2: I went to bed at three am. Perfect All lights
Speaker 2: are off and it's pitch black, but I couldn't sleep
Speaker 2: right away. My bedroom was really dark and the bedroom
Speaker 2: door was open to the hallway, when suddenly, I for
Speaker 2: sure felt a presence. I froze under the covers and
Speaker 2: refused to look over to the hallway, even though I
Speaker 2: felt something or someone was there. Five minutes later, I
Speaker 2: create some courage and decided to look over, and there
Speaker 2: it was. Within the black of the dark, I see
Speaker 2: a faint silhouette of someone about five foot three. Immediately
Speaker 2: I shut my eyes and in fear and guilt. I
Speaker 2: start to pray. I apologized to God for disobeying my
Speaker 2: mother's advice and regretting I made this horrible decision. I
Speaker 2: basically prayed myself to sleep. Oh my God, Tyler Henry,
Speaker 2: what are you doing to people? Fast forward to July
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I invite my neighbor D over for tea
Speaker 2: so we could get to know each other better. D
Speaker 2: has lived next door for over thirty years. She raised
Speaker 2: her kids there and knew all the neighbors on the street.
Speaker 2: She also knew Mary, the previous owner of my house,
Speaker 2: for a long time. Mary had lived at the house
Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty one, when the house was built. She
Speaker 2: raised children with a husband and continued living in the
Speaker 2: house even after her husband passed away. She was now
Speaker 2: in her nineties and her kids were begging her to
Speaker 2: move closer to them, and that's when she decided to
Speaker 2: sell her house. After D shared Mary's story, I asked
Speaker 2: her if she was still alive. D told me she
Speaker 2: had recently passed away. I asked her when, and it
Speaker 2: turns out that it was October of twenty seventeen, the
Speaker 2: same month that I had had my encounter with that shadow,
Speaker 2: I had chills and shared with d that most likely
Speaker 2: it was Mary that came to visit me that evening
Speaker 2: in the hallway. That's the power of Tyler Henry. That
Speaker 2: ghosts saw you watching Tyler Henry and said, oh, I
Speaker 2: feel so comfortable around him. I'm going to come out
Speaker 2: of my ghost closet and I am going to make
Speaker 2: an appearance tonight. And I don't blame that ghost because,
Speaker 2: as you all know, since I've been doing this podcast
Speaker 2: it started in January of twenty nineteen, I have always
Speaker 2: talked about how badly I want to talk to Tyler
Speaker 2: Henry myself, and I'm proud to say I'm still trying.
Speaker 2: One of these days, folks, we're gonna get Tyler Henry.
Speaker 2: Thank you for sending that story. And by the way,
Speaker 2: thank you guys all so much for the birthday wishes.
Speaker 2: My birthday was October twentieth, Libra, My biggest birthday wish
Speaker 2: is not only do you tell everyone you know about
Speaker 2: this podcast, but also if I just so happen to
Speaker 2: be going to a place where you live, come see
Speaker 2: me live on the thirtieth of October, I'm doing Ghosted
Speaker 2: Live in Los Angeles, at Largo and then I'm doing
Speaker 2: stand up Election Week in Raleigh, North Carolina at good
Speaker 2: Night's Comedy Club that is November seventh. Then I'm going
Speaker 2: to Portland, Oregon in December, that is December eleventh, and
Speaker 2: that is going to be Ghosted Live. And then in Seattle,
Speaker 2: I will be there the thirteenth of December doing Ghosted
Speaker 2: Live and stand up. Oh my god, you get them both. Also,
Speaker 2: guess what I Am coming to New York City that
Speaker 2: is also in December. So go to my linktree linktree
Speaker 2: dot com slash roz Hernandez. It's also linked in my
Speaker 2: Instagram at roz Hernandez and you will get all those
Speaker 2: dates there. You can also get my autographed polaroids, cameos,
Speaker 2: all that good stuff. And are you watching the Haunted
Speaker 2: Doll my YouTube series. It's almost like this podcast without guests.
Speaker 2: It's just me. It's like Living for the Dead, except
Speaker 2: it's only me and I'm not helping anybody. All right,
Speaker 2: let's talk to Joel Kim Booster. I was the show.
Speaker 2: Where were you?
Speaker 3: I was in Arlington, Texas?
Speaker 2: Why what were you doing?
Speaker 3: Giving a talk about what else but diversity and inclusion
Speaker 3: in entertainment? Industry, and I will say, have you done
Speaker 3: colleges yet? Not really, you'll get there soon. And they
Speaker 3: are Every comic will tell you this. They are the
Speaker 3: worst gigs. This was fine because it was just a
Speaker 3: Q and A and me talking, which was lovely and
Speaker 3: like everyone was great. But like when I was early
Speaker 3: in my career touring, I would do these college gigs
Speaker 3: because they pay three to four times as much as
Speaker 3: a club will for one night. But they are some
Speaker 3: of the most awful like scenarios you could ever imagine.
Speaker 3: I once. I won't name the school they have it
Speaker 3: Chilis on campus, though, so that might give it away.
Speaker 2: Why are we doing the podcast I'm asking you, Joel?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the podcasts? Yeah, I thought we started. Let's
Speaker 2: do it, Okay, we can keep talking, okay, keep going.
Speaker 3: No, And then I had to perform an hour stand
Speaker 3: up during the twenty fifteen Bernie Hillary debate and they
Speaker 3: would not turn off the TVs for the debate, so
Speaker 3: half the Chilis was watching the debate. Maybe twelve people
Speaker 3: were watching me and it was one of the hardest
Speaker 3: hours because I also wanted to see them BA so
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, fuck my drag, like I don't
Speaker 3: care about any of this. So colleges are not always ideal,
Speaker 3: but they do pay very well, and I will say
Speaker 3: they are also how I found out that I had
Speaker 3: a rider that my manager had created for me without
Speaker 3: consulting me. Well, so one day I did a college
Speaker 3: and they didn't have a green room. They had like
Speaker 3: they just put me in a classroom and there was
Speaker 3: like two mirrors, like mismatched mirrors that were like full
Speaker 3: length mirrors in the room and I was one on
Speaker 3: one side and on the other side of the room.
Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, this is weird. And then
Speaker 3: after the show, I was like chatting with them and
Speaker 3: they were like, sorry, we have to like carry these
Speaker 3: mirrors across campus back to the prop department or whatever.
Speaker 3: And I was like, why did you bring those in here?
Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, your writer says it's a
Speaker 3: man that a mirror that you can see your front
Speaker 3: and your back. And I was like, and I like
Speaker 3: texted my manager. I was like, you were making me
Speaker 3: look like a lunatic. I was like, there's no I
Speaker 3: was like, I have never once expressed to you the
Speaker 3: need to see my back as well as my front.
Speaker 3: He just assumed he.
Speaker 2: Just assumed I'm doing my first ever bus tour. Oh,
Speaker 2: I leave at three pm today.
Speaker 3: We have like opposite lives today. I landed at seven thirty,
Speaker 3: you're leaving at three. I love that for us. I've
Speaker 3: got to get open for Bob for like, Oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've never done like a bus, have you?
Speaker 3: I have never done a bus. No, I've never done
Speaker 3: a bus.
Speaker 2: I'm so creous.
Speaker 3: I think it'll be it sounds fun to me that
Speaker 3: with Bob. I think it'll be fun in that crew,
Speaker 3: it'll be fun. And also Bob like cultivates such a
Speaker 3: smart audience that you'll have the fucking time of your life.
Speaker 3: You really will. Like, the thing is about Bob's audiences
Speaker 3: is that they are not drag comedy audiences. They are
Speaker 3: like comedy comedy audiences, and they because Bob is so smart.
Speaker 3: Like my problem is is a lot of times when
Speaker 3: I'm performing in LA, especially at the clubs like and
Speaker 3: at certain other places, like when you perform for people
Speaker 3: who don't know what the obvious punchline is. Like as comics,
Speaker 3: we're always trying to stay ahead of whatever the obvious
Speaker 3: punchline is, you know, but if you're performing for an
Speaker 3: audience that doesn't even know the obvious punchline, and then
Speaker 3: you jump ahead to what the subversion is. They're so lost,
Speaker 3: and it's like you're supposed to say the thing that
Speaker 3: exactly it's I thought agents had small dicks, you know, like,
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, like, and it is so
Speaker 3: frustrating and it's not helpful at a certain point to
Speaker 3: perform for dumb audiences who don't know comedy, right. But
Speaker 3: I don't think you'll have that problem with Bob, because
Speaker 3: I think Bob is Bob is a classic example of
Speaker 3: someone who I do think there is like there was
Speaker 3: a universe I think of a period of time in drag,
Speaker 3: especially where like Bob probably could have just been a
Speaker 3: stand up. I think though that it was at a
Speaker 3: time when like stand up did not feel super welcoming
Speaker 3: to Bob, and he also has all these other amazing
Speaker 3: skills that go into drag and et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But I do think there are a lot of drag
Speaker 3: queens that are so funny that would have just gone
Speaker 3: the regular route of stand up had stand up not
Speaker 3: been so aggressively like homophobic.
Speaker 2: Well, do you remember me doing it. I used to
Speaker 2: do clubs as a drag queen.
Speaker 3: Oh I remember, I remember.
Speaker 2: The improblem Nobody that was a drag Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 2: and it was it was.
Speaker 3: But you know what, though, do you not feel like
Speaker 3: you learned a lot from those experiences? And like when
Speaker 3: I first started touring, Like after Conan in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: I started headlining clubs for the first time, and back then,
Speaker 3: nobody cared if I lived or died, I would go
Speaker 3: out on stage. No one had heard of me. Maybe
Speaker 3: a few people from Twitter had come to see the show,
Speaker 3: but nobody. And it really does teach you how to
Speaker 3: do your gay shit in a way that like is
Speaker 3: going to pop with a broader audience, and like it
Speaker 3: really trains you to like get the audience on your
Speaker 3: side very quickly in a way that like I think,
Speaker 3: if you stay doing I understand the safety of wanting
Speaker 3: to only do queer rooms, but like or alt rooms
Speaker 3: for that matter, But like I got, I became a
Speaker 3: much better comic. And it was much scarier at times, totally,
Speaker 3: but I became a much better comic traveling in the
Speaker 3: country and doing like Zanies in Nashville.
Speaker 2: But I also like now that people come to see me.
Speaker 2: I have spent over a decade being the only like
Speaker 2: not famous person or being like the one that's like
Speaker 2: the freak and the lineup that I am always assuming
Speaker 2: that nobody knows who I am and I have to
Speaker 2: explain everything. Yeah, and then now people come to see
Speaker 2: me and I'm like, wait, wait, you already knew it.
Speaker 2: I was, or like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But it's like you won't run into this too, because
Speaker 3: I have to do this now too, where it's like
Speaker 3: everybody knows I'm adopted. Everybody knows my parents are white,
Speaker 3: you know, like I spent the first like ten years
Speaker 3: of my career talking about the dysphoria of having a
Speaker 3: white family and being a person of color. But the thing,
Speaker 3: the fact is, it's like I still can't go out
Speaker 3: there and do jokes with that context underlying things. I
Speaker 3: have to you have to constantly find a new quick
Speaker 3: way to like get everybody on the same page without
Speaker 3: reusing the same joke. And it becomes more and more
Speaker 3: difficult every year because I'm like, can you just all
Speaker 3: know who I am at this point, like please, like
Speaker 3: so you don't have to explain myself and why I
Speaker 3: have this goofy ass fucking name like it is. It's
Speaker 3: a trial, It's a tribulation, you're telling me.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm not the most famous personal.
Speaker 3: I don't know either.
Speaker 2: So Joel, we all know your parents are Asian. You're
Speaker 2: straight tell me about ghosts.
Speaker 3: Ghosts, okay, because here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like, at some point pre pandemic, I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know to come up with podcasts about ghosts, and
Speaker 2: you were like, I don't have goat, I don't know
Speaker 2: about ghosts or something. I don't know what you I
Speaker 2: think you said, get out of my face. I think
Speaker 2: you said I need a mirror that sees the front
Speaker 2: and the back of me and leave this dress I meeting.
Speaker 3: If this was pre pandemic, then at the time I
Speaker 3: probably did not have a ghost experience to share, and
Speaker 3: I was probably feeling like, oh, like, what would I
Speaker 3: go on and talk on this podcast about. I will
Speaker 3: say the only thing is the only thing I will
Speaker 3: say that I had probably to talk about that was
Speaker 3: ghost related was I did do a podcast with a
Speaker 3: ghost debunker once, but I will say his debunking of
Speaker 3: it wasn't that like the experiences that people have with
Speaker 3: ghosts aren't real. What happens is is that if something
Speaker 3: incredibly violent or emotional or highly charged happens in a space,
Speaker 3: it will leave an imprint of energy in that space,
Speaker 3: and it's more of an echo like ghosts in his mind.
Speaker 3: They are not like conscious beings that are like left
Speaker 3: over wandering the earth like trying to solve their like
Speaker 3: unfinished business. It's just they are the echo of the
Speaker 3: energy that was left behind because they were murdered brutally there,
Speaker 3: or because they had a huge connection to that space,
Speaker 3: or because you know, something along those lines, or because
Speaker 3: they were highly connected to the people in that space,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I actually found that quite convincing.
Speaker 2: I believe in that. I believe in that, but I
Speaker 2: also feel like it could be like you're an invisible
Speaker 2: dead person that like it has full thought, Like I
Speaker 2: think there could be more than one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, not true, true, true, true.
Speaker 2: There seems to be some ghosts that like have no
Speaker 2: clue there a ghosts, and that's what they call it,
Speaker 2: residual haunting. And they're just sort of like just going
Speaker 2: about their day and they probably in their mind, it's
Speaker 2: like Nicole Kim and the others like they don't like
Speaker 2: you're the ghost, like right, But then it seems like
Speaker 2: there's the ones that have the ability to like call
Speaker 2: me slurs or whatever, which I've also experienced, and I
Speaker 2: think that that's more of an intelligent being.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, with a consciousness, with a consciousness for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I don't know exactly where I fall.
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to like to set things up
Speaker 3: to you have to understand, I come from a very
Speaker 3: deep religious background. What kind of evangelical Southern Baptist.
Speaker 2: That sounds scary?
Speaker 3: So the only kind of ghosts we were believing in
Speaker 3: was the Holy ghost. Baby, you better believe that there
Speaker 3: were no such things as ghosts going on in our house.
Speaker 3: Demons they were real.
Speaker 2: Tell me about demons.
Speaker 3: Demons were fully real. I mean, like I remember when
Speaker 3: I was thirteen. I you know, I struggled a lot
Speaker 3: growing up, in part because I was deeply repressed as
Speaker 3: a gay person in a very religious household where I
Speaker 3: was homeschooled, et cetera, et cetera, kept under lock and
Speaker 3: key also like bipolar probably undiagnosed, like probably all the
Speaker 3: way back then, you know, experiencing emotional tumult that I
Speaker 3: could not process and that my parents refused to deal with,
Speaker 3: like they sent me to Christian therapists that were like
Speaker 3: pray and like be better, and that was the extent
Speaker 3: of it. And so like I remember at thirteen, I
Speaker 3: got in a fight with my dad's so bad and
Speaker 3: I was like throwing a tantrum so bad that he
Speaker 3: tried to exercise me in the middle of the fight.
Speaker 3: This is full disclosure. I believe in my first Comedy
Speaker 3: Central special this joke. This a bit about it, but
Speaker 3: it's a real story, and it's funny in the bit
Speaker 3: because I remember being like, you know, I started laughing
Speaker 3: in his face when he started doing it. And the
Speaker 3: joke is is that, like, well, that seems like something
Speaker 3: a demon might do in that situation if I was
Speaker 3: trying to like beat the rumors, Like likely thing for
Speaker 3: a demon to do is laugh during the exorcism.
Speaker 2: Totally, which is what this is what I think about
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven about like as I go to
Speaker 2: these haunted places, every once in a while, people will
Speaker 2: be like, be careful, there's demons, like you're gonna what,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, these are the same people sometimes or
Speaker 2: at least there are a lot of people out there
Speaker 2: that think trans people gave people drag queens whatever, are
Speaker 2: deep whatever. And I'm like, if I encountered a demon,
Speaker 2: it would probably be like top bottom verse, Babe, I
Speaker 2: recognize the game, Like they're gonna be like, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: were feeling each other out, like so what are you into?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 2: What kind of demon are you?
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly? But at the time, like as much as
Speaker 3: I joked about it, like it was really upsetting, it's
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a really upsetting thing to your father
Speaker 3: think that your behavior is so outrageous that you were
Speaker 3: possessed by a demon. Yeah, and so, like, demons were
Speaker 3: very present, Like talk about demons was very present in
Speaker 3: my childhood, and like I am still to this day,
Speaker 3: I would say, like I love horror movies. Love horror movies.
Speaker 3: The ones that still to this day make me a
Speaker 3: little ooky googy are the ones that are like The
Speaker 3: Omen and The Exorcist, Like the ones that involve like
Speaker 3: basically anything involving a Catholic church. Get me the fuck
Speaker 3: out of there, Like, because there is a little part
Speaker 3: of me that has not unlearned the trauma that I
Speaker 3: grew up with and I'm like, demons are real. Demons
Speaker 3: are real, and they could they could inhabit my body
Speaker 3: at any time.
Speaker 2: Do you think if there was a demon at the
Speaker 2: foot of your bed that you would turn to the
Speaker 2: Lord Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3: Hmmm, No, I honestly, I would probably do the opposite.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I'd be like, let's team up, bitch.
Speaker 3: Do you imagine us, let's collab, Let's collab like get
Speaker 3: it like, get in here, get.
Speaker 2: In here, girl, have your people call my people, and
Speaker 2: we'll do a project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think I think I've burned too many
Speaker 3: bridges with JC. I don't know that he would be
Speaker 3: there to help me as much as he, you know,
Speaker 3: proclaims to be like always forgiving. I don't know about
Speaker 3: that now.
Speaker 2: I do think Jesus would be like, oh now you
Speaker 2: want me? Yeah, okay, So you have since had a
Speaker 2: ghost experience.
Speaker 3: I have since had a ghost experience.
Speaker 2: Wait, I should set this up here. I am backstage
Speaker 2: at the Tribeca film and I'm sitting there with who
Speaker 2: was it, Tig Nataro, Sandra.
Speaker 3: Bernhard Dupper you named dropping bitch.
Speaker 2: Margaret Chow, and I'm chatting with my friend Joe Kimbooster
Speaker 2: about ghosts. I think, I think Mark, I think my
Speaker 2: friend Margaret was like, oh my god, you guys you
Speaker 2: have to listen to Ross's podcast. It's called ghost It.
Speaker 2: I've been on it, and I'm like, Margaret, stop, I'm
Speaker 2: embarrassing me. And then and then Joel was like, I
Speaker 2: live in a haunted house.
Speaker 3: And I'm not just looking at my phone. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to pull up the uh your rider. No, what will
Speaker 3: become very important later on in this story, which is
Speaker 3: the receipt that the ghostbuster sent me about my house.
Speaker 2: Okay, why are you cheating on me with a Ghostbuster?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: And you said this. You said this like very early
Speaker 3: when I was explaining that, like I wanted to do
Speaker 3: this with a different Ghostbuster. So basically what happened is this,
Speaker 3: I purchased a house.
Speaker 2: Congrats.
Speaker 3: I am wealthy now and very lucky, very lucky. It's
Speaker 3: in the East Hollywood Hills, right around Universal. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm actually giving too many details about where I live
Speaker 3: right now. My neighbor is Charlie XCX. Yeah, there's also
Speaker 3: a lot of snakes over there. Yeah, there's snakes, there's coyotes, there.
Speaker 2: I used to walk around the lake a lot, lots
Speaker 2: of celebrity siding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there, I missed an opportunity when you were like,
Speaker 3: there's lots of snakes over there, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: Caroline Policheck used to live with her. Oh yeah, bb
Speaker 3: Rexla lives in the neighborhood too. Talk about snake. No.
Speaker 3: I love BB.
Speaker 2: I don't go to your neighborhood anymore because one time
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go on a hike with a friend.
Speaker 2: I won't name drop, but it was a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me a picture and they're like, good thing
Speaker 2: you didn't go. It was the biggest snake I've ever
Speaker 2: seen in my life.
Speaker 3: It was j Loo. Actually, I've never seen snakes over there.
Speaker 3: This is crazy to me, even now I'm never leaving
Speaker 3: my house huge.
Speaker 2: It was like I'm telling you ice Cube, Owen Wilson,
Speaker 2: j lo Anacondas whoof it was big? That is crazy,
Speaker 2: So be careful, okay, because there's rattle.
Speaker 3: That's good to know. I don't like that. But it's
Speaker 3: a lovely house. I'm very grateful that I was able
Speaker 3: to afford it. And as I was getting the key
Speaker 3: handoff from the previous owner, Miriam, lovely woman. She has
Speaker 3: a stack of pictures, okay, and she's like, this is
Speaker 3: a fun tradition that everyone who's ever lived in the
Speaker 3: house has done, which is like sort of take pictures
Speaker 3: of themselves in the house from the very beginning, from
Speaker 3: the jump.
Speaker 2: Did you see the pictures? Yes, So she's there like
Speaker 2: a thousand of them because there was scary and they
Speaker 2: just go and go.
Speaker 3: There were a ton of pictures because the house was
Speaker 3: built in forties and it was built by a man
Speaker 3: name Ralph I'll call him.
Speaker 2: And he owned Ralph.
Speaker 3: Yes he was. Yeah, he's just one of many Ralph's
Speaker 3: in the conglomerate of Ralph's.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But and so she started off with that picture, black
Speaker 3: and white photo of Ralph next to the house that
Speaker 3: he had just built. Ralph built this house. He loved
Speaker 3: this house. It was his like dream. And she's going
Speaker 3: through showing me all the other people who live in
Speaker 3: the house, the various ways the house has looked over
Speaker 3: the years, and then she gets to a point in
Speaker 3: the photos in like the seventies and she's like, oh, weird,
Speaker 3: that's funny, Like that looks like Ralph, but he didn't
Speaker 3: live there then, huh. And then she just continues flipping
Speaker 3: the photos and I was like wait wait wait wait
Speaker 3: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 3: wait wait. It's like, let's back up here. You think
Speaker 3: that's Ralph And she's like, yeah, it looks just like
Speaker 3: And we compare the photos. It looked same, clothes, like
Speaker 3: it looks I'll show you the photo the next.
Speaker 2: But it's an owner. It wasn't like a ghost picture.
Speaker 3: It was mysterious because she didn't know why he would
Speaker 3: be there thirty years later looking roughly the same in
Speaker 3: the back in the back of the yard, in the
Speaker 3: back of the yard of this photo, okay. And she
Speaker 3: literally said to me, she was like, that's weird. Ra
Speaker 3: else shouldn't be there. Flip flip flip. And I was like,
Speaker 3: this is the scene in the horror movie. Yeah, when
Speaker 3: like you realize, like this is like midway through the
Speaker 3: horror movie where they go to the house and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's been dead the whole time. This
Speaker 3: person that I've been communicating with, But.
Speaker 2: This was the owner, not a realtor or.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this was the owner. The previous the
Speaker 3: woman who owned the house before me. Okay, and then
Speaker 3: she gets to the end of the photos and she's like,
Speaker 3: you know, be sure to take some photos of yourself
Speaker 3: in the house to add to the stack and then
Speaker 3: give the stack to the next people. And I didn't
Speaker 3: think much of it. I just thought it was like
Speaker 3: Ralph didn't appear in any of the other photos, so
Speaker 3: I was like, this must be just some weird coincidence,
Speaker 3: like some guy who looks just like him, like in
Speaker 3: the background of the photos. Like whatever, Well, like, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to worry about it. I have a house
Speaker 3: dream come true. Never in a million years thought this
Speaker 3: would happen for me.
Speaker 2: What does Ralph look like or what did he?
Speaker 3: I think it is like German, He's like it weirdly
Speaker 3: looks like my dad because famously again adopted Okay, but.
Speaker 2: Just like a tall told me time when he filled
Speaker 2: me in on that.
Speaker 3: Fact, just like a tall, Germanic, sturdy looking guy, slightly
Speaker 3: older and by the time he built the house, but
Speaker 3: probably fifties sixties, maybe by the time he finished the house,
Speaker 3: I don't know, So like that was what made it
Speaker 3: extra strange that he would be in a photo that
Speaker 3: she believed took place in the seventies when he built
Speaker 3: the house in the forties at an already old age.
Speaker 2: I also forget that people that aren't famous live in
Speaker 2: the Hollywood Hills. Yeah, there's also like doctors.
Speaker 3: Told the normal people and in fact, let me tell you,
Speaker 3: they're all fucking nightmares, and I hate every single fucking
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 2: I have been I'm on like the the I have
Speaker 2: been websites.
Speaker 3: Banned from next door. I've been banned from next door
Speaker 3: for being aggressive and for calling people out for caring
Speaker 3: about shit that they are caring about the wrong shit,
Speaker 3: and specifically about the way they talk about un house people,
Speaker 3: which is not a probably my neighborhood whatsoever. But no,
Speaker 3: I'm banned from nextdoor, from my neighborhood on nextdoor. I
Speaker 3: guess if I moved, I might be allowed in a
Speaker 3: new neighborhood on nextdoor, but I'm not exactly sure. But
Speaker 3: I feel very righteously like okay with being banned from
Speaker 3: next door for what I did, because I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I couldn't, I could not deal with the entitlement, and
Speaker 3: like like it's just not the world that I come from,
Speaker 3: and like I'm very lucky to be a homeowner. If
Speaker 3: I was not on one failed NBC sitcom that lasted
Speaker 3: one season, I would not be a homeowner today. Like
Speaker 3: I mean, God bless Lout and Fire Island too. But like, seriously,
Speaker 3: I am not the kind of person with a kind
Speaker 3: of background that should own a home right now. And
Speaker 3: boy did I bring that energy to the next door.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: The people that are previous owners were any of them famous.
Speaker 3: There was an so the last guy who who remodeled
Speaker 3: the house in the nineties the house hasn't been remodeled
Speaker 3: since the nineties was an NBA player. I don't know
Speaker 3: his name, but he was an NBA player. But because
Speaker 3: of that, all the counters are just like, like slightly,
Speaker 3: I would say four inches too tall for me and
Speaker 3: my boyfriend six my fiance rather is six two, and
Speaker 3: he loves it. He loves it. But you should see
Speaker 3: me try to take my contacts out at our bathroom stake,
Speaker 3: which is also too high. It's like I need like
Speaker 3: a little steps to like get close. It's so embarrassing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he might be the closest because
Speaker 3: I did ask Miriam. I was like, do you know
Speaker 3: if any anyone famous ever lived in this house, and
Speaker 3: she was like, I don't think so. I think I'm
Speaker 3: I probably am the most famous person to live in
Speaker 3: this house. And and like that's not saying a lot
Speaker 3: because I don't know what this basketball player I mean
Speaker 3: clearly like he couldn't have been that good of a
Speaker 3: basketball player if he was living in this house, you know.
Speaker 2: But okay, we gotta get to the ghost.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, we have to get to Okay.
Speaker 2: So you move in weird situation with Miriam, A.
Speaker 3: Weird situation with things are things are going fine, I
Speaker 3: will say, you know, things that are explainable start happening. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know it's a it's a It's one of those
Speaker 3: houses where like you enter on the second floor and
Speaker 3: then you go downstairs to the bedrooms, and constantly I
Speaker 3: would like have this picture hanging up on my fridge
Speaker 3: of me and my partner and fully stable magnet. It's
Speaker 3: a picture, it's not heavy. We would like be downstairs
Speaker 3: in our bedroom and just hear a crash and I'd
Speaker 3: come upstairs and the photo would be and it was
Speaker 3: like a sturdy magnet. It was like one of those
Speaker 3: you know, those like graphite r rock magnets like the
Speaker 3: amethyst like magnets that you get at the Natural History Museum.
Speaker 3: It's one of those, and that's why we could hear
Speaker 3: it and it would crash. And then like things started
Speaker 3: happening where we would hear stuff upstairs and I thought
Speaker 3: maybe like an animal had gotten into the house or
Speaker 3: something like that. It was very strange. I bought I
Speaker 3: bought a baseball bat good to have next to my bed,
Speaker 3: just in case. My boyfriend hates it. It gives him nightmares.
Speaker 3: But I I wanted to have it because I just
Speaker 3: kept thinking, like, what's going on? And I should say
Speaker 3: around this time too, someone my air conditioner is in
Speaker 3: the front of my house and is broken. It makes
Speaker 3: a lot of noise. It makes a lot of noise.
Speaker 3: I get a Grinder message from someone with no profile,
Speaker 3: zero feed away that just says, Wow, your ac is
Speaker 3: really loud. What yeah? And then he blocks me. And
Speaker 3: the thing is is is a horror felt for those
Speaker 3: of you who don't know about Grinder or some of
Speaker 3: these apps. The geolocation is not that specifically. He had
Speaker 3: to know I was in that house, and it's not
Speaker 3: that easy to discern on grinder, Like you can be
Speaker 3: zero feet away from somebody, but that doesn't mean you
Speaker 3: know which house they're in, right, right.
Speaker 2: Like if you're in a big hotel, yeah, check ground.
Speaker 3: There's like to if you're connected to the same Wi
Speaker 3: Fi network, oftentimes it'll be like your zero feet away
Speaker 3: from somebody, and like it doesn't give you that like
Speaker 3: specific instructions. That's the movie Scream but no, and that
Speaker 3: that is why I have the baseball bat. Because my
Speaker 3: partner is like terrified because like you know, like listen,
Speaker 3: I've said some incendiary things online. I am not the
Speaker 3: most popular person online in certain circles, and you know,
Speaker 3: it was just so weird and specifically you're, wow, your
Speaker 3: air condition is real loud and very scarry. So onwards too,
Speaker 3: the real meat of the story. So little things are
Speaker 3: happening and we're like, whatever, this is normal stuff that's happening.
Speaker 3: I'm in the basement. I'm doing laundry. The washer dryer
Speaker 3: is right in front of the door, okay, and I'm
Speaker 3: changing over the laundry from the washer to the dryer.
Speaker 3: And I turn around as I'm changing the laundry and
Speaker 3: a man walks by the door. I am talking like
Speaker 3: I thought there was a man in my house. He
Speaker 3: walked very fast by the door. I made a noise.
Speaker 3: My partner, he was like, I have never heard you
Speaker 3: make a noise even close to the noise that you
Speaker 3: just made. Like it was a genuine like he said,
Speaker 3: it was kind of funny because like he wasn't sure
Speaker 3: if it was real or not, because it was like
Speaker 3: a very deep masculine screen and you'd think, you think
Speaker 3: with me that, like my natural inclination and fear would
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, you know, but it was much more.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, that was hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah I know. But he came running downstairs and I
Speaker 3: was like, did you see him? Did you see him?
Speaker 3: And he was like, what are you talking about? Because
Speaker 3: he walked towards our bathroom, which is a dead end.
Speaker 3: And I was like, John Michael, I swear to you,
Speaker 3: I am not making this up to scare you. There
Speaker 3: was a man in our house. Just now, like, straight up,
Speaker 3: there was a man in our house. And I will
Speaker 3: never forget the image of this for the rest of
Speaker 3: my life. He was where exactly what Ralph was wearing
Speaker 3: in the picture, like a flannel like jeans and a
Speaker 3: flannel like again similar to my dad, like a work
Speaker 3: shirt and like jeans and boots and like I mean,
Speaker 3: I it was quick. So like I can't say for
Speaker 3: certain that it's exactly the same thing that Ralph was
Speaker 3: wearing in the photo, but it was close enough.
Speaker 2: It's like something he was.
Speaker 3: It was something he it was definitely something he would
Speaker 3: have worn. And I will say this, I did not
Speaker 3: get malevolence from this presence. It was just shocking to me.
Speaker 3: I just felt like he was there, you know, and
Speaker 3: from that point forward, we were on the lookout.
Speaker 2: In your opinion, do you think that that goes back
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about earlier, with a ghost
Speaker 2: that doesn't realize there a ghost.
Speaker 3: It's just like I don't think he realizes he's a ghost, Okay.
Speaker 3: I think that this was such a labor of love
Speaker 3: for him, that building this house. I think he was
Speaker 3: an immigrant. I think from what Miriam has told me,
Speaker 3: I I think this was like a dream of his
Speaker 3: to build this house. And he finally, after many years,
Speaker 3: after much saving, was able to build his own house
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, in California. And I did that.
Speaker 2: I would not leave right exactly. I would say I
Speaker 2: paid this money. I don't care if I'm living or dead,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in this damn house. So now here's
Speaker 2: one more thing I want to put out. Though, because
Speaker 2: of remodeling and stuff. I bet you you said that
Speaker 2: was a dead end. It probably wasn't a dead end
Speaker 2: in his mind. He's just going, Oh my god, you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I do what I do.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, that's really interesting. I hadn't even thought about that.
Speaker 3: So that happened John Michael a little like suspicious sort
Speaker 3: of like what how much did you smoke? Like? What sativa?
Speaker 3: Were you? What? What was the strain, bab what was
Speaker 3: the strain? You know? Like, and he doesn't necessarily believe me.
Speaker 3: And then a couple months later after that, I get home,
Speaker 3: I think John Michael's home. Did he goes in the
Speaker 3: office like twice a week, so like it's it's never
Speaker 3: and it's never regular, So I always just assume that
Speaker 3: he's home when I come home and I'm standing in
Speaker 3: the kitchen and I'm going through my mail, and I feel,
Speaker 3: and I swear to God, this was not a muscle spasm,
Speaker 3: This was not a cramp. I feel someone come up
Speaker 3: behind me and grab me right here on the side
Speaker 3: on like where like a love handle exist. I wasn't
Speaker 3: Joe kam booth right grab me fully, and I thought
Speaker 3: it was John Michael sneaking up on me to surprise me.
Speaker 3: But I was completely alone. I was like freaking out
Speaker 3: in like close to tears honestly because I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, and again, no malevolence, just like someone
Speaker 3: trying to be like, hey, I'm.
Speaker 2: Here, but still there's a way to do it.
Speaker 3: I know. And I'm also like, don't touch me. That's
Speaker 3: don't touch me.
Speaker 2: My biggest problem with ghosts. They don't ask for consent. Nope,
Speaker 2: and and the touching is my biggest Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: want that, don't like that, didn't appreciate that. And then
Speaker 2: this started happening, which is when we really got concerned
Speaker 2: because up until this point, John Michael had not really
Speaker 2: experienced any of these things, like he'd experienced like things
Speaker 2: that shouldn't have fallen, falling things like that. But again,
Speaker 2: he's a much more like logically.
Speaker 3: Minded, like you know, computer brain person, and so he
Speaker 3: was not on the ghost train at all. And then suddenly,
Speaker 3: like every once in a while I would be downstairs
Speaker 3: in like my office or in the bedroom and I
Speaker 3: would hear someone run across the living room. Okay, I
Speaker 3: like when ghosts run run across the living room, and
Speaker 3: I thought it was John Michael. And then I like
Speaker 3: started noticing it would happen when he wasn't home or
Speaker 3: when he was like in the same room as me,
Speaker 3: and I was like, babe, did you hear that? And
Speaker 3: he was like yeah, And that's when i'd like get
Speaker 3: the bat because I assumed someone was in our fucking house.
Speaker 3: And then I was gone. I was doing work somewhere
Speaker 3: and John Michael was home alone, sitting in the living room.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was watching TV or what happened,
Speaker 3: but he heard someone run across the room in the
Speaker 3: same way that we've heard several times. But he was
Speaker 3: in the room. He was in the room, and he
Speaker 3: could hear the person very clearly run in front of
Speaker 3: him across the room, the same path that we had
Speaker 3: been hearing for like weeks or months at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's when he got really freaked out. That's when
Speaker 3: he finally became a believer because he was like a
Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit because I felt a little justified.
Speaker 3: I felt a little justified and so it was time
Speaker 3: to do something. And what I decided to do was
Speaker 3: this because I have a couple of friends who as
Speaker 3: a joke gift several years ago, I think during probably lockdown,
Speaker 3: my friend got my other friend a certificate for this
Speaker 3: woman who's a ghostbuster, professional ghostbuster to ghostbust his house.
Speaker 3: She does certificates, she does gift certificates. I need to
Speaker 3: do that, Yeah you do. She does it all remotely
Speaker 3: from Florida, does not come to your house, does not
Speaker 3: zoom with you, just talks to you, doesn't ask for
Speaker 3: a picture of your house. Okay, she just knows. She's
Speaker 3: just into it.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is great. I'm I'm over here at scheme
Speaker 2: made And of course, like this all.
Speaker 3: Start is a little bit of a joke. This all
Speaker 3: started is a little bit of a joke, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this woman, Like.
Speaker 2: But did a friend go to her? Where does she
Speaker 2: come from?
Speaker 3: She? I don't know how she was discovered originally, but
Speaker 3: my friend was given the gift card for her and
Speaker 3: he used her first and like we joke, joke, joke, joke,
Speaker 3: joke because they're like when she did his house and
Speaker 3: some of your listeners might know who I'm talking about
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name names, but this has been
Speaker 3: told on his podcast and other podcasts. But like there
Speaker 3: was a ghost trial happening in his house that she
Speaker 3: was aware of. There, you know, like someone was being
Speaker 3: put on trial by other ghosts. There was a ghost jury.
Speaker 2: Wait, what was this? What you don't want to say that,
Speaker 2: but they said it on their podcast.
Speaker 3: It was Brian Sofie.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've talked to him about his ghosts. I never
Speaker 2: heard about the ghost trial.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, talk to him about the ghost trial. And
Speaker 3: of course another friend of mine uses the same woman
Speaker 3: again sort of as a joke, but this is a
Speaker 3: thing like her son would not sleep in his room
Speaker 3: three years old, would not sleep in his room, said
Speaker 3: there's something in that room. I will not go near it.
Speaker 3: Please do not make me go in that room. And
Speaker 3: she like start like whatever, She let him sleep wherever
Speaker 3: he wanted. And then suddenly like she mentions it to
Speaker 3: her nanny, who's Hispanic or Latino, and she was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the devil's room. I like put a glass of water
Speaker 3: in that room, Like I don't go in that room.
Speaker 3: I don't go in that room. There's evil in that room.
Speaker 3: And then another friend mentioned that like they had walked
Speaker 3: by that room and someone had tried to pull them
Speaker 3: into that room. Oh my god, and so she used
Speaker 3: this woman hang on. So the devil, the one that
Speaker 3: we've heard about all these years, is in a child's bedroom.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Florida the devil. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it was the no no, And this
Speaker 3: is not in Florida. This is in La.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense.
Speaker 3: She does it remotely from Florida. Her work goes so,
Speaker 3: but it's all in La got it. Child goes in
Speaker 3: the room and says, all right, it's good, but you
Speaker 3: need to tell her to get the vent too, and
Speaker 3: get the vent. And but what is she doing like remotely,
Speaker 3: she's doing a lot of things. Okay, and I'll read you.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the receipt the breakdown.
Speaker 2: That she's like a menu of different events arise.
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can find it. Honestly, I
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know. I believe it, Okay, So
Speaker 3: this is I'm going to read you just the receipt
Speaker 3: that she gave me after she did my home. Okay,
Speaker 3: So this is the basic breakdown. Remove the following possessions
Speaker 3: from each of you. Joel forty six, John Michael forty eight.
Speaker 3: Two more possessions than I had.
Speaker 2: Oh that's how many possessions?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know why he got two
Speaker 3: more possessions than I did.
Speaker 2: Are you a little jealous?
Speaker 3: A little jealous?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what's wrong with me?
Speaker 3: I know exactly what's wrong. Like, look at the material. Honestly,
Speaker 3: maybe race based, but I'm not going to go there, dumb.
Speaker 3: None were demonic type energies, more like ghost energies. So
Speaker 3: that's nice. That's nice to hear that.
Speaker 2: We weren't forty eight people. Yeah, now here's this would
Speaker 2: be my problem. I go, is one of them funny?
Speaker 3: Because if you take that out, I need that, I know,
Speaker 3: bring her back, bring her back, And it is a her.
Speaker 3: The funny one was a her.
Speaker 2: Course of course, we know that.
Speaker 3: Okay, remove twenty eight discarnate energies from your house again,
Speaker 3: ghost type energies. I have fully cleared the property. And
Speaker 3: then here's the rest of the receipt. Okay. Other energies,
Speaker 3: including various portals, are covered below. All negative energies were
Speaker 3: removed or fixed in some way as no longer affect
Speaker 3: the property. Six negative portals cleared and closed if inside,
Speaker 3: cleared and left open if outside. Two portals to the
Speaker 3: underworld closed and sealed. One intergalactic hole blocked. Twenty five
Speaker 3: ceialing portals closed. One mirror portal in the primary bedroom closed.
Speaker 3: Which I do have a mirror, a big mirror in
Speaker 3: the primary bedroom, and we did have weird instances with it.
Speaker 3: So I'll say that she didn't see an I'll give
Speaker 3: her that. I'll give her that she doesn't even she
Speaker 3: doesn't even have a picture of my house. Okay, she
Speaker 3: didn't even have a fucking picture. She might have looked
Speaker 3: it up on zillow, but like, that's it. The closet
Speaker 3: seems to have two very large mirrors on it, mirrors
Speaker 3: both projecting out into a space and reflect back what's
Speaker 3: going on in a space. I often recommend to change
Speaker 3: out the close the closet mirror doors for something non
Speaker 3: reflective and find another location for a mirror that helps
Speaker 3: you dress. Okay. Eight negative vortices with one matrix card
Speaker 3: cleared and turned positive. Dimensional energy is removed, one plugged
Speaker 3: lay line cleared, One non beneficial geopathic zone neutralized. Twenty
Speaker 3: eight interference lines blocked, three energy walls removed, dark blobs removed,
Speaker 3: one all dark being removed.
Speaker 2: But what she took your dark blobs.
Speaker 3: She took the blobs, She took the blobs, she took
Speaker 3: it all.
Speaker 2: She took your blobs in her intergalactic hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but one tall dark being removed, which is notable.
Speaker 3: The possessions targets. We each had targets on us from
Speaker 3: the underworld. I had twenty one targets on me again.
Speaker 3: John Michael had twenty four targets on him.
Speaker 2: They love him.
Speaker 3: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you're engaged to this person?
Speaker 3: I know, but like, why not me? Anyways, And then
Speaker 3: we were tagged as well, and I had thirty six
Speaker 3: tags removed. John Michael had thirty nine tags.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Tag?
Speaker 3: Donna couldn't tell you? And I have added for clarification.
Speaker 3: I've I've texted her and asked for clarification, I have
Speaker 3: yet to receive. I need to follow up, and I
Speaker 3: should have done that before I came in here to
Speaker 3: figure out what some of these things mean. So she
Speaker 3: does this and does this, and then you're allowed one
Speaker 3: more follow up, Okay, if in case she misses something
Speaker 3: a tune up, you know, set, hence the like she
Speaker 3: needs to get the vent too right, which I will say,
Speaker 3: my friend with that son, he sleeps in that room.
Speaker 3: It's all fine and gravy now, But here's the rub. Okay,
Speaker 3: here is the rub. We have not heard nor seen Ralph.
Speaker 3: The footsteps are gone. I have not seen the presence.
Speaker 3: I have not even felt a presence. I do feel
Speaker 3: later in my house. It's weird. It's weird. I do
Speaker 3: feel more comfortable in my house alone at night. It's strange,
Speaker 3: but my boyfriend has had many reoccurring dreams of a
Speaker 3: man standing just outside in our backyard. So our our
Speaker 3: primary bedroom has these like sliding glass doors that lead
Speaker 3: out to our backyard, and my boyfriend has had many
Speaker 3: dreams of a man that, as described to me, sounds
Speaker 3: like the same man.
Speaker 2: That I saw walk the hallway flannel.
Speaker 3: Standing in the middle of our yard, or standing right
Speaker 3: up against the door as though he's trying to get
Speaker 3: back in.
Speaker 2: Yes, she probably was like, you gotta go outside, but
Speaker 2: you know he's so he's still a ghost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's still and now he's probably pissed
Speaker 3: at us because he's just got the fucking yard, and boy,
Speaker 3: ol boy, when we put a pool in, he's gonna
Speaker 3: be furious.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, just because I have a lot of people
Speaker 2: that are very into the stuff that listen to this podcast,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, you know, you got rid of
Speaker 2: this ghost and he wasn't doing anything wrong or whatever.
Speaker 2: My personal opinion, whoever's paying the bills is the one
Speaker 2: in charge of who's gonna be in my house.
Speaker 3: I had the same concern too, because I explained to her,
Speaker 3: I said, listen, I'm not getting malevolence. It's not giving malevolence. Okay,
Speaker 3: Like it's creepy, it's uncomfortable, but like whatever, and she
Speaker 3: was like, I am simply setting him free, Like I
Speaker 3: am like releasing him from this loop. Like I think
Speaker 3: she probably is more on the side of the debunker
Speaker 3: that I mentioned at the top, where it was like,
Speaker 3: he just has this deep connection to this house because
Speaker 3: he loved this house and he doesn't even know he's dead. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. This scenario seems like the residual haunting.
Speaker 2: It's just he's running, he's walking where there used to
Speaker 2: not be a dead end.
Speaker 3: He's grabbing at my love handles, you know, like, but
Speaker 3: she like assured me that she was simply setting him
Speaker 3: free from the cycle of this home. And so I
Speaker 3: hope that is the case. And I hope that my
Speaker 3: boyfriend's dreams are not indicative of this man trying to
Speaker 3: get back into the house.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell her you got to get the backyard?
Speaker 3: I actually might, I actually might follow up with her.
Speaker 3: It's been a minute. I might. I might miss my window,
Speaker 3: and but I might pay for it again. Listen, And
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you how much I paid for
Speaker 3: this woman. I'm not gonna tell you, but let me
Speaker 3: tell you. Uh. It is one of those yeah, I've
Speaker 3: made it moments because I could afford to do something
Speaker 3: almost as a bit like because I could have had
Speaker 3: you do the word.
Speaker 2: But it worked. See now, I can never promise anybody
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna help anything, right. I just want the
Speaker 2: content right right at the end of the day, I
Speaker 2: want to get a go And why.
Speaker 3: Do you think we did this too? Like I wanted
Speaker 3: the receipt. I wanted to see the receipt and see
Speaker 3: how many stories, see how many blobs she removed, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But like she's helped my friend in an
Speaker 3: immeasurable way. The sun sleeps in the room now, you know,
Speaker 3: you can't explain it, like the dog is not freaking
Speaker 3: out about the room anymore. It's very strange.
Speaker 2: It's very unusual, Like we always want a professional to
Speaker 2: help us with a specific problem that we don't understand,
Speaker 2: whether it's like a health problem or a legal problem,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But when you have a ghost, you're like,
Speaker 2: who do I turn to? And there's various ways. You
Speaker 2: can go the priest route, you can go the blob
Speaker 2: removal whatever it is. And since we don't know how
Speaker 2: all this works, I do think some of it is
Speaker 2: like a it has some connection to our brain. It
Speaker 2: seems I don't know what it is whatever. But I
Speaker 2: really think like if it would make me feel better
Speaker 2: to pay someone to just be like it's gone now,
Speaker 2: I would probably believe that.
Speaker 3: Well, no, and this is my this is this is
Speaker 3: sort of a theory or a framework that I've stolen
Speaker 3: from my boyfriend, which I believe really truly, which is
Speaker 3: both astrology and say taro for instance. I don't think
Speaker 3: there's any intrinsic magic in either of those things. But
Speaker 3: if it gives you a framework to look at your
Speaker 3: life and it helps you in some way. Then hell yeah,
Speaker 3: pull your Tarot card every day because it does. Like
Speaker 3: that's all it is. It's just it's just giving you
Speaker 3: a framework to look at your life and process your
Speaker 3: life and maybe don't make any like major decisions based
Speaker 3: on you know, pulling the six of cups cart that day.
Speaker 3: But it does, Like every time that I've had my
Speaker 3: Tarot red it just makes me think about a situation
Speaker 3: in my life in a much different way. And that
Speaker 3: alone is helpful, and so like you know, and and
Speaker 3: it's I think it's similar in this way. I mean,
Speaker 3: I spend a lot more money than I needed to
Speaker 3: to get that sort of relief, but like it is psychological,
Speaker 3: and I do think that psychologically, I feel less scared
Speaker 3: in my home alone.
Speaker 2: Now hell yeah, we're crystals too, are like another one
Speaker 2: where I'm like, first of all, they're gorgeous. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you want to tell me that this, you know I have,
Speaker 2: this is going to keep a demon away? Yes, I'd
Speaker 2: rather have it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, what's the worst that can happen? Oh?
Speaker 2: I have a pretty rock Yeah, who gives a shit?
Speaker 3: It's best case scenario, it keeps the demon out. Worst
Speaker 3: case scenario, you have a beautiful rock and the demon
Speaker 3: would have got you. Anyways, there you go.
Speaker 2: Now, it's interesting that you had a crystal magnet.
Speaker 3: That's amethyst. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I theorize maybe he was looking for a threutle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know what, That's what I never got
Speaker 3: clear from Miriam was if Ralph was ever married or
Speaker 3: had a family. I don't think he did. I don't
Speaker 3: think he did, and I don't think he was able
Speaker 3: to pass down the house to anyone if I if
Speaker 3: I remember the story.
Speaker 2: Correctly, eligible bachelor. Yeah, coming out behind the house was
Speaker 2: his family.
Speaker 3: And I kicked him. No, I feel kind of guilty.
Speaker 2: You didn't kick him out, You just made him really backyard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, released him to the backyard. Released him to the backyard.
Speaker 3: He's an outdoor cat. Now, let the coyotes deal with him.
Speaker 2: But you know, he might have wanted he might have wanted,
Speaker 2: you know, to join the relationship.
Speaker 3: And you know what, if I got a better look at.
Speaker 2: Him, That's that's the thing. It's all marketing. It's just
Speaker 2: like dating apps. You have to put your best foot
Speaker 2: forward or I'm gonna swipe I will swipe you out
Speaker 2: of here and put you in the backyard. But when
Speaker 2: you were in this situation where you like, I want
Speaker 2: this ghost gone, or were you just like trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out?
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I think for us at first it
Speaker 3: was much more about like, what is happening and is
Speaker 3: this Ralph right? Like are we wrong? Because that was
Speaker 3: the other thing, like we were like Ralph made the
Speaker 3: most sense, you know, based on the pictures, that's based
Speaker 3: on the bill.
Speaker 2: You know for sure that it was Ralph exactly.
Speaker 3: You don't know that exactly.
Speaker 2: And this it could be these damn portals and blobs and.
Speaker 3: Whatever lay lines and things like that whole My friends,
Speaker 3: she said that she got a unicorn out of her
Speaker 3: house and a dragon out of her house.
Speaker 2: You know what, for everyone, a.
Speaker 3: Mother dragon was removed from her house.
Speaker 2: Now, who was that ghost? Someone that was Game of Thrones,
Speaker 2: an old dragon that was out of work, that died
Speaker 2: in that house.
Speaker 3: Dragon's gonna be in houses, I know. I just yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I'm like, I'm I'm better safe than sorry. Yes,
Speaker 3: you know, especially now that he's appearing to my boyfriend
Speaker 3: in dreams. I'm sort of like, okay, but I also
Speaker 3: want to say emotional cheating. Yeah, seriously, fuck him if
Speaker 3: you want him, but just like.
Speaker 2: About him every night when I'm right next to you,
Speaker 2: Chapel Roone. You know, people, people are freaky when you're
Speaker 2: in the public and to have to always be on
Speaker 2: guard in your own home that you pay for and
Speaker 2: you're hearing people running in your house, yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: seeing strange men in your basement. I don't blame you
Speaker 2: for wanting to and that.
Speaker 3: That's the number of times I ran upstairs because I
Speaker 3: thought my boyfriend was home and like running across the
Speaker 3: living room floor and no one was there.
Speaker 2: No, when not when it's your home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. I am so glad I was
Speaker 3: not there to witness the running in the same room.
Speaker 3: That is that would have I think that would have
Speaker 3: I mean seeing I saw him, so like, I still
Speaker 3: think I win a little bit, But like I think,
Speaker 3: like if I was in that room and I heard
Speaker 3: someone that I could not see run across the room,
Speaker 3: it would have ruined me. We would have had to move.
Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, Joe, Yeah, can I show you
Speaker 2: a haunted doll?
Speaker 3: You can? You certainly can? I Oh, I fucking hate
Speaker 3: this shit.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's fun the way I do it. It's time
Speaker 2: for a segment I like to call the dolls are living.
Speaker 2: So what I do is I go to eBay dot
Speaker 2: com and I type in the words haunted doll. Surprisingly,
Speaker 2: actually not surprisingly, this was not gonna be surprising to you,
Speaker 2: especially after that invoice you just told me about. But
Speaker 2: there are thousands of haunted dolls that people are selling
Speaker 2: for money online. And the great thing about them they
Speaker 2: always have pictures, and they have bios, and the bios
Speaker 2: usually the belief is when you die, your choices are
Speaker 2: heaven hell haunted e Bay doll. Okay, that's what I think.
Speaker 2: That's how I interpret this. And so this is a
Speaker 2: person that was once living now somehow is in this
Speaker 2: haunted doll. Okay, do you like my Liberaci doll?
Speaker 3: By the way, now, dude, he has been giving me
Speaker 3: the vibe the whole time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well let's talk about he's saying room for
Speaker 2: one more okay, uh jeeha. Can you please show us
Speaker 2: Emma you got it? Ros Emma is currently going for
Speaker 2: seventy dollars. WHOA, that's Emma. She's she might not be
Speaker 2: what you were expecting, because.
Speaker 3: Usually expecting at all.
Speaker 2: We are usually expecting lots of you know, ruffles and lace,
Speaker 2: kind of medieval. Now, this lady, this appears to be
Speaker 2: an older woman.
Speaker 3: I saw her on the bus recently. She lives in
Speaker 3: La like she does look like. First of all, she's
Speaker 3: very uh liberal. Oh she is the head of the
Speaker 3: h OA like she is.
Speaker 2: I think paper mache. She just appears to be an
Speaker 2: older woman.
Speaker 3: Beautiful green eyes, gorgeous, beautiful green eyes.
Speaker 2: I like this kind of woman.
Speaker 3: Actually, are you too? And you know she wears a
Speaker 3: mask outside too, Yeah, you know she's still masking outside.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and she is. She's got she's.
Speaker 3: Clutching a ticket. She's clutching a ticket to the Hollywood
Speaker 3: Bowl where she wore a mask outside.
Speaker 2: To see who probably, Oh my god, it is a ticket.
Speaker 2: What is that? Jimmy Buffett, Jimmy Buffett. I bet she's
Speaker 2: a parrot head. This woman is a parrot head. I
Speaker 2: believe she has a Kamala sign in her front yard.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh death death.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's got a little feet.
Speaker 3: She's got she looks like she has compression. Sucks definitely,
Speaker 3: she just got off a plane. She needs.
Speaker 2: This is where I'm like, what is the story of
Speaker 2: this was this someone's art project, Like, I don't know what.
Speaker 3: This is based off of a person. I think this
Speaker 3: was a doll meant to look like a very specific
Speaker 3: person and they gifted it to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think the ticket, and I think the hat,
Speaker 3: and I think all of the little details the green
Speaker 3: eyes green is not an eye color that is often
Speaker 3: picked first for a doll like this. I think these
Speaker 3: are very specific details and they were meant for a
Speaker 3: specific person.
Speaker 2: And she does have a big hat with flowers on it.
Speaker 2: I love this woman. I can't wait for the day
Speaker 2: that I am this woman. Yeah, okay, So Emma has
Speaker 2: a pretty short bio. It just says Emma is a
Speaker 2: very special haunted vessel. She comes from a friend of
Speaker 2: mine who claimed.
Speaker 3: She was evil. Oh.
Speaker 2: Since bringing her into the home, I do hear bangs
Speaker 2: every now and then, but I have mostly had good
Speaker 2: luck with her. Yes, you still hear weird stuff around her,
Speaker 2: but that's what haunted items usually come with, so be careful.
Speaker 2: And it says in all caps, I do not know
Speaker 2: if this is absolutely a positive spirit. Well, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I mean, we why would you never want to invite
Speaker 3: that into your home.
Speaker 2: I just don't understand loneliness.
Speaker 3: It really does seem like someone who is like, let's
Speaker 3: lay a match, baby, let's light a match. You see
Speaker 3: it burn? You know, like nothing else going on, might
Speaker 3: as well have a little adventure.
Speaker 2: And you're taking a gamble. Yeah, it's you never know
Speaker 2: what you're going to get. It really is so similar
Speaker 2: to online dating and all of that, Like you just
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to be a horrible, horrible
Speaker 2: experience or.
Speaker 3: You're just gonna hear a couple of bumps and noises
Speaker 3: and it'll be weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or are you going to get that into galactic
Speaker 2: hole removed? So anyway, that's Emma seventy dollars for anyone
Speaker 2: in the market. Okay, let's do one more thing. Can
Speaker 2: I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev please EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal.
Speaker 2: It's when people believe they've captured a ghosts familiar.
Speaker 3: I've gotten some of those on my talk boy and
Speaker 3: you know what, do you know what talk boy is?
Speaker 2: Talk boy?
Speaker 3: Yeah? How old are you?
Speaker 2: According to Wikipedia, I'm a few years younger than you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you might have just missed it. Do you
Speaker 3: know the movie Home Alone?
Speaker 2: I think my parents want fuck you?
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, anyway, it's the thing that he uses to
Speaker 3: record the voices and then you can distort the voices.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. We used to think that we could
Speaker 3: capture voices on that. Ghosts on that a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I've got two of them for you. They
Speaker 2: were posted on YouTube and it was sort of like
Speaker 2: a compilation video that was this group that has like
Speaker 2: just a bunch of different ghosts, like, oh, here's some
Speaker 2: of our best ones. And the group is called Entity
Speaker 2: Encounters and it's at various locations. What does this one say,
Speaker 2: Joe Cam booster.
Speaker 3: It one time? One more time? I hear I honestly,
Speaker 3: I honestly hear like a ghost that's singing along to
Speaker 3: Charlie XCX ride you hear it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do give that he's he's having a brat summer.
Speaker 2: That's very likely. That is not what Entity Encounters believed.
Speaker 3: Okay, what did they think.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you, abc D. Did they think it
Speaker 2: was a raw please? Maybe they were what kind of
Speaker 2: sushi you want? I don't want that tempora? Did they
Speaker 2: think it was b robbery okay, C probably or D
Speaker 2: Paula Dean.
Speaker 3: I think robbery.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me play it again.
Speaker 3: You are correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, that is what Entity Encounters heard. They heard robbery.
Speaker 3: I feel very proud of myself.
Speaker 2: It's very good. Well, you're experienced in this. You've you've
Speaker 2: you've lived in with a ghost that is now in
Speaker 2: your backyard. Okay, what is this one saying?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Same people posted it. I don't know where.
Speaker 3: Mmm. Okay, one more time I hear do you guys swear?
Speaker 2: Do you guys swear? But what do you think that means?
Speaker 2: Like do you say naughty words?
Speaker 3: Or do you no? Yeah, I think it's I think
Speaker 3: it's a person begging like their last I think it's
Speaker 3: their last words, like this isn't gonna hurt? Do you
Speaker 3: guys swear?
Speaker 2: And then that's what I died. That's scary. Not what
Speaker 2: they thought.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck?
Speaker 2: Did they think it was a it's good to sweat?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm?
Speaker 2: Did they think it was b I gotta say, ce
Speaker 2: go this way? Or do baby? You were born this way?
Speaker 3: Can I hear it one more time? Oh?
Speaker 2: My god? Absolutely go this way? Joe Cambister two for two, Yes,
Speaker 2: perfect record.
Speaker 3: I've got a great ear for talent. You after all
Speaker 3: in the in the lounge, singing, singing on top of
Speaker 3: that piano, and now look at you now, I will say.
Speaker 2: You are one of the few that has always been
Speaker 2: very kind and encouraging to me.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Rose. Well, it's you make it easy because
Speaker 3: you're funny. So it's like there are plenty of people
Speaker 3: who make it difficult to be supportive of.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: There are many young queer comics that I would love
Speaker 3: to be more supportive of. You are so funny it
Speaker 3: makes it very easy. Thank you. Joe.
Speaker 2: Tell us where people can find you and everything you
Speaker 2: got going on.
Speaker 3: So I should be already on tour by the time
Speaker 3: you're hearing this. It's a US Canada tour that goes
Speaker 3: all the way through January. Go to linktree dot com,
Speaker 3: slash Ihlkim or you can just go to my Instagram
Speaker 3: at ihl kim. All the info is there. And then
Speaker 3: also just announced I'm doing a European leg of the
Speaker 3: tour as well in December. Those dates were just announced
Speaker 3: as well. I'm doing Paris, London, Amsterdam, Berlin, and I
Speaker 3: think somewhere else. But yeah, I'm really excited. I have
Speaker 3: never done other than London. I've never done in Europe,
Speaker 3: so I'm a little nervous and I'm really excited. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, Please, if you're listening from any of those places,
Speaker 3: tell your friends buy tickets, uh, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to think if there's anything else that
Speaker 3: needs to be plucked, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But this has been great, Jill, this has been so lovely.
Speaker 3: I know that we've had to move this around a
Speaker 3: million times because of both of us, but I'm so
Speaker 3: glad that. I'm so glad that we got to be tactile.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you had a ghost in your house.
Speaker 3: Me too, because I've never seen someone light up more
Speaker 3: than when I mentioned I had a ghost in my house.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You don't know the emails I've sent
Speaker 2: six years, the people do you have you ever? Do
Speaker 2: you know someone that had a ghost in the house. Anything?
Speaker 2: And to have somebody that I would want on regardless
Speaker 2: that moved into it was the perfect time. I'm so
Speaker 2: glad you didn't come on back when I originally asked you.
Speaker 3: Oh, same same, I would. I don't know what I
Speaker 3: would have talked about.
Speaker 2: This is the moment that we needed because because here's
Speaker 2: anything beginning middle end dream for me, beginning middle end
Speaker 2: ghost story. And I'm going to put this in one
Speaker 2: of the top ghost Story Guests episodes.
Speaker 3: Can you do me an honor? You can do me
Speaker 3: an honor?
Speaker 2: Rose, Thank you so much to joke him Booster. What
Speaker 2: a dream guest. Go check out everything he does. He's everywhere.
Speaker 2: It would be harder to not see him doing what
Speaker 2: he does because he does it so much, and he
Speaker 2: does it so well, and he does it all over
Speaker 2: the place. I love you and I'm so happy you're listening.
Speaker 2: It's Halloween week. Be safe out there, kids, dress up,
Speaker 2: wear a costume. I'm giving you permission. Don't buy a
Speaker 2: store bought costume. Do some arts and crafts, do a
Speaker 2: quick little Joe Anne visit, Go to Michael's. I know
Speaker 2: the line's gonna be long, but wait it out. You're
Speaker 2: gonna be so grateful you did, cause the next next
Speaker 2: October people are gonna be like, oh, what have you
Speaker 2: dressed like for Halloween? And then you're gonna be like, well,
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, No, you want to go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, last year it was iconic. I was
Speaker 2: the lady from Chimp Crazy or whatever you decide. Just
Speaker 2: I highly recommend you dress up and treat yourself to
Speaker 2: lots of candy and a horror movie The Haunted Doll
Speaker 2: on YouTube and this podcast. I love you all, both
Speaker 2: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you.
Speaker 3: To haunt me, don't haunt me came back.
Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share
Speaker 2: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out
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Speaker 2: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the
Speaker 2: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed
Speaker 2: by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the
Speaker 2: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising
Speaker 2: Hannah Kyle Crichton. The theme music is by the spine
Speaker 2: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,
Speaker 2: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
Speaker 2: Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the
Speaker 2: Frightening Danielle Kramer.