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Speaker 2: Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead.

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Speaker 3: He's coming this way. Wait a minute, I sa.

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Speaker 1: Nandas please Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to

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Speaker 1: Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, one of my favorite comedians is on

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Speaker 2: the show today, Joel Kim Booster. He's iconic. You've seen

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Speaker 2: him on lots of television, on stages, on screens, and

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Speaker 2: fun fact, he lives in a house that has a

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Speaker 2: ghost in it. What a dream guest. But before we

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Speaker 2: get to that, I want to read a story. This,

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Speaker 2: of course, was sent to my email ghosted by Roz

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Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. It was written out nice and

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Speaker 2: wonderfully in about one or two paragraphs, just as you

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Speaker 2: could do if you'd like me to read one on

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Speaker 2: the show. This one comes from eber Lynne, who writes, Hi, Roz,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to share with you my ghost story that

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Speaker 2: happened in twenty seventeen. There's a little timeline here, okay,

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Speaker 2: so it says August twenty seventeen, I move into a

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Speaker 2: new house with my daughter. October twenty seventeen. One weekend

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Speaker 2: in October, my daughter is with her father for the

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Speaker 2: weekend and I am home by myself, about to enjoy

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Speaker 2: some takeout and binge watch TV shows. It turned into

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Speaker 2: a seven hour binge of Tyler the Medium, a popular

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Speaker 2: show on E that in no way, shape or form

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Speaker 2: I would have been allowed to growing up due to religion.

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Speaker 2: My mother always told me that believing an astrology or

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Speaker 2: psychics was a way to open myself to the devil. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: I ignored what she'd been telling me my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Nothing bad would really happen right at a girl. Finally,

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Speaker 2: I went to bed at three am. Perfect All lights

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Speaker 2: right away. My bedroom was really dark and the bedroom

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Speaker 2: door was open to the hallway, when suddenly, I for

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Speaker 2: sure felt a presence. I froze under the covers and

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Speaker 2: it was. Within the black of the dark, I see

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Speaker 2: a faint silhouette of someone about five foot three. Immediately

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Speaker 2: I shut my eyes and in fear and guilt. I

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Speaker 2: start to pray. I apologized to God for disobeying my

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Speaker 2: mother's advice and regretting I made this horrible decision. I

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Speaker 2: basically prayed myself to sleep. Oh my God, Tyler Henry,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing to people? Fast forward to July

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I invite my neighbor D over for tea

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Speaker 2: has lived next door for over thirty years. She raised

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Speaker 2: She also knew Mary, the previous owner of my house,

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Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty one, when the house was built. She

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Speaker 2: sell her house. After D shared Mary's story, I asked

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Speaker 2: turns out that it was October of twenty seventeen, the

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Speaker 2: same month that I had had my encounter with that shadow,

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Speaker 2: I had chills and shared with d that most likely

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Speaker 2: it was Mary that came to visit me that evening

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Speaker 2: in the hallway. That's the power of Tyler Henry. That

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Speaker 2: ghosts saw you watching Tyler Henry and said, oh, I

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Speaker 2: feel so comfortable around him. I'm going to come out

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Speaker 2: an appearance tonight. And I don't blame that ghost because,

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Speaker 2: as you all know, since I've been doing this podcast

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Speaker 2: talked about how badly I want to talk to Tyler

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Speaker 2: Henry myself, and I'm proud to say I'm still trying.

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Speaker 2: One of these days, folks, we're gonna get Tyler Henry.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sending that story. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: thank you guys all so much for the birthday wishes.

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Speaker 2: My birthday was October twentieth, Libra, My biggest birthday wish

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Speaker 2: It's just me. It's like Living for the Dead, except

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Speaker 2: it's only me and I'm not helping anybody. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's talk to Joel Kim Booster. I was the show.

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Speaker 2: Where were you?

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Speaker 3: I was in Arlington, Texas?

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Speaker 2: Why what were you doing?

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Speaker 3: Giving a talk about what else but diversity and inclusion

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Speaker 3: in entertainment? Industry, and I will say, have you done

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Speaker 3: colleges yet? Not really, you'll get there soon. And they

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Speaker 3: are Every comic will tell you this. They are the

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Speaker 3: worst gigs. This was fine because it was just a

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Speaker 3: Q and A and me talking, which was lovely and

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Speaker 3: like everyone was great. But like when I was early

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Speaker 3: I once. I won't name the school they have it

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Speaker 2: Why are we doing the podcast I'm asking you, Joel?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the podcasts? Yeah, I thought we started. Let's

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Speaker 2: do it, Okay, we can keep talking, okay, keep going.

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Speaker 3: No, And then I had to perform an hour stand

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Speaker 3: half the Chilis was watching the debate. Maybe twelve people

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, fuck my drag, like I don't

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Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, this is weird. And then

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Speaker 2: Just assumed I'm doing my first ever bus tour. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I leave at three pm today.

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Speaker 3: We have like opposite lives today. I landed at seven thirty,

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Speaker 3: I have never done a bus. No, I've never done

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be it sounds fun to me that

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Speaker 3: You really will. Like, the thing is about Bob's audiences

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Speaker 2: Well, do you remember me doing it. I used to

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Speaker 3: to you have to understand, I come from a very

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Speaker 3: So the only kind of ghosts we were believing in

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Speaker 3: were no such things as ghosts going on in our house.

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Speaker 3: Demons they were real.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about demons.

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Speaker 3: Demons were fully real. I mean, like I remember when

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Speaker 2: Totally, which is what this is what I think about

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly? But at the time, like as much as

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a really upsetting thing to your father

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Speaker 3: I would say, like I love horror movies. Love horror movies.

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Speaker 2: Do you think if there was a demon at the

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Speaker 3: it like, get in here, get.

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Speaker 2: In here, girl, have your people call my people, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think I think I've burned too many

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Speaker 2: I do think Jesus would be like, oh now you

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Speaker 2: want me? Yeah, okay, So you have since had a

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Speaker 3: I have since had a ghost experience.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I should set this up here. I am backstage

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Speaker 3: Bernhard Dupper you named dropping bitch.

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Speaker 2: have to listen to Ross's podcast. It's called ghost It.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not just looking at my phone. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to pull up the uh your rider. No, what will

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Speaker 3: the receipt that the ghostbuster sent me about my house.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why are you cheating on me with a Ghostbuster?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 3: And you said this. You said this like very early

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Speaker 2: Congrats.

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Speaker 3: I am wealthy now and very lucky, very lucky. It's

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Speaker 3: right now. My neighbor is Charlie XCX. Yeah, there's also

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Speaker 3: a lot of snakes over there. Yeah, there's snakes, there's coyotes, there.

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Speaker 2: I used to walk around the lake a lot, lots

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there, I missed an opportunity when you were like,

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Speaker 3: Caroline Policheck used to live with her. Oh yeah, bb

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Speaker 3: Rexla lives in the neighborhood too. Talk about snake. No.

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Speaker 3: I love BB.

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Speaker 2: I don't go to your neighborhood anymore because one time

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Speaker 2: Somebody sent me a picture and they're like, good thing

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Speaker 2: you didn't go. It was the biggest snake I've ever

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Speaker 3: It was j Loo. Actually, I've never seen snakes over there.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy to me, even now I'm never leaving

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Speaker 2: It was like I'm telling you ice Cube, Owen Wilson,

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Speaker 2: j lo Anacondas whoof it was big? That is crazy,

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Speaker 2: So be careful, okay, because there's rattle.

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Speaker 3: That's good to know. I don't like that. But it's

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Speaker 3: handoff from the previous owner, Miriam, lovely woman. She has

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Speaker 2: Did you see the pictures? Yes, So she's there like

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Speaker 3: There were a ton of pictures because the house was

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Speaker 3: Yes he was. Yeah, he's just one of many Ralph's

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Speaker 3: But and so she started off with that picture, black

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Speaker 3: through showing me all the other people who live in

436
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: the house, the various ways the house has looked over

437
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: the years, and then she gets to a point in

438
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: the photos in like the seventies and she's like, oh, weird,

439
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 3: that's funny, Like that looks like Ralph, but he didn't

440
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: live there then, huh. And then she just continues flipping

441
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: the photos and I was like wait wait wait wait

442
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

443
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: wait wait. It's like, let's back up here. You think

444
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: that's Ralph And she's like, yeah, it looks just like

445
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: And we compare the photos. It looked same, clothes, like

446
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 3: it looks I'll show you the photo the next.

447
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: But it's an owner. It wasn't like a ghost picture.

448
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: It was mysterious because she didn't know why he would

449
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: be there thirty years later looking roughly the same in

450
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: the back in the back of the yard, in the

451
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: back of the yard of this photo, okay. And she

452
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: literally said to me, she was like, that's weird. Ra

453
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: else shouldn't be there. Flip flip flip. And I was like,

454
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 3: this is the scene in the horror movie. Yeah, when

455
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: like you realize, like this is like midway through the

456
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: horror movie where they go to the house and they're like,

457
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's been dead the whole time. This

458
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: person that I've been communicating with, But.

459
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: This was the owner, not a realtor or.

460
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this was the owner. The previous the

461
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: woman who owned the house before me. Okay, and then

462
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: she gets to the end of the photos and she's like,

463
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: you know, be sure to take some photos of yourself

464
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 3: in the house to add to the stack and then

465
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: give the stack to the next people. And I didn't

466
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 3: think much of it. I just thought it was like

467
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: Ralph didn't appear in any of the other photos, so

468
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: I was like, this must be just some weird coincidence,

469
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: like some guy who looks just like him, like in

470
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: the background of the photos. Like whatever, Well, like, I'm

471
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: not going to worry about it. I have a house

472
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: dream come true. Never in a million years thought this

473
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 3: would happen for me.

474
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: What does Ralph look like or what did he?

475
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: I think it is like German, He's like it weirdly

476
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: looks like my dad because famously again adopted Okay, but.

477
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Just like a tall told me time when he filled

478
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: me in on that.

479
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: Fact, just like a tall, Germanic, sturdy looking guy, slightly

480
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: older and by the time he built the house, but

481
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: probably fifties sixties, maybe by the time he finished the house,

482
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, So like that was what made it

483
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: extra strange that he would be in a photo that

484
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: she believed took place in the seventies when he built

485
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 3: the house in the forties at an already old age.

486
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: I also forget that people that aren't famous live in

487
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: the Hollywood Hills. Yeah, there's also like doctors.

488
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: Told the normal people and in fact, let me tell you,

489
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: they're all fucking nightmares, and I hate every single fucking

490
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: one of them.

491
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: I have been I'm on like the the I have

492
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: been websites.

493
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: Banned from next door. I've been banned from next door

494
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: for being aggressive and for calling people out for caring

495
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: about shit that they are caring about the wrong shit,

496
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: and specifically about the way they talk about un house people,

497
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: which is not a probably my neighborhood whatsoever. But no,

498
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: I'm banned from nextdoor, from my neighborhood on nextdoor. I

499
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: guess if I moved, I might be allowed in a

500
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 3: new neighborhood on nextdoor, but I'm not exactly sure. But

501
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: I feel very righteously like okay with being banned from

502
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: next door for what I did, because I was like, no,

503
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't, I could not deal with the entitlement, and

504
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: like like it's just not the world that I come from,

505
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: and like I'm very lucky to be a homeowner. If

506
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: I was not on one failed NBC sitcom that lasted

507
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: one season, I would not be a homeowner today. Like

508
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: I mean, God bless Lout and Fire Island too. But like, seriously,

509
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: I am not the kind of person with a kind

510
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: of background that should own a home right now. And

511
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: boy did I bring that energy to the next door.

512
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it was crazy.

513
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: The people that are previous owners were any of them famous.

514
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: There was an so the last guy who who remodeled

515
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: the house in the nineties the house hasn't been remodeled

516
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: since the nineties was an NBA player. I don't know

517
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: his name, but he was an NBA player. But because

518
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: of that, all the counters are just like, like slightly,

519
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: I would say four inches too tall for me and

520
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: my boyfriend six my fiance rather is six two, and

521
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: he loves it. He loves it. But you should see

522
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: me try to take my contacts out at our bathroom stake,

523
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: which is also too high. It's like I need like

524
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: a little steps to like get close. It's so embarrassing.

525
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he might be the closest because

526
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: I did ask Miriam. I was like, do you know

527
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: if any anyone famous ever lived in this house, and

528
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: she was like, I don't think so. I think I'm

529
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: I probably am the most famous person to live in

530
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: this house. And and like that's not saying a lot

531
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 3: because I don't know what this basketball player I mean

532
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: clearly like he couldn't have been that good of a

533
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: basketball player if he was living in this house, you know.

534
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: But okay, we gotta get to the ghost.

535
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, we have to get to Okay.

536
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: So you move in weird situation with Miriam, A.

537
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: Weird situation with things are things are going fine, I

538
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 3: will say, you know, things that are explainable start happening. Okay,

539
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: you know it's a it's a It's one of those

540
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: houses where like you enter on the second floor and

541
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: then you go downstairs to the bedrooms, and constantly I

542
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: would like have this picture hanging up on my fridge

543
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: of me and my partner and fully stable magnet. It's

544
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: a picture, it's not heavy. We would like be downstairs

545
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: in our bedroom and just hear a crash and I'd

546
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: come upstairs and the photo would be and it was

547
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: like a sturdy magnet. It was like one of those

548
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: you know, those like graphite r rock magnets like the

549
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: amethyst like magnets that you get at the Natural History Museum.

550
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: It's one of those, and that's why we could hear

551
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: it and it would crash. And then like things started

552
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: happening where we would hear stuff upstairs and I thought

553
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: maybe like an animal had gotten into the house or

554
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: something like that. It was very strange. I bought I

555
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: bought a baseball bat good to have next to my bed,

556
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: just in case. My boyfriend hates it. It gives him nightmares.

557
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: But I I wanted to have it because I just

558
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: kept thinking, like, what's going on? And I should say

559
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: around this time too, someone my air conditioner is in

560
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: the front of my house and is broken. It makes

561
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: a lot of noise. It makes a lot of noise.

562
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: I get a Grinder message from someone with no profile,

563
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: zero feed away that just says, Wow, your ac is

564
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: really loud. What yeah? And then he blocks me. And

565
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: the thing is is is a horror felt for those

566
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 3: of you who don't know about Grinder or some of

567
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: these apps. The geolocation is not that specifically. He had

568
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: to know I was in that house, and it's not

569
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: that easy to discern on grinder, Like you can be

570
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 3: zero feet away from somebody, but that doesn't mean you

571
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: know which house they're in, right, right.

572
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: Like if you're in a big hotel, yeah, check ground.

573
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: There's like to if you're connected to the same Wi

574
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: Fi network, oftentimes it'll be like your zero feet away

575
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: from somebody, and like it doesn't give you that like

576
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: specific instructions. That's the movie Scream but no, and that

577
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: that is why I have the baseball bat. Because my

578
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: partner is like terrified because like you know, like listen,

579
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: I've said some incendiary things online. I am not the

580
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: most popular person online in certain circles, and you know,

581
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: it was just so weird and specifically you're, wow, your

582
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: air condition is real loud and very scarry. So onwards too,

583
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: the real meat of the story. So little things are

584
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: happening and we're like, whatever, this is normal stuff that's happening.

585
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm in the basement. I'm doing laundry. The washer dryer

586
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: is right in front of the door, okay, and I'm

587
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: changing over the laundry from the washer to the dryer.

588
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: And I turn around as I'm changing the laundry and

589
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: a man walks by the door. I am talking like

590
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: I thought there was a man in my house. He

591
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: walked very fast by the door. I made a noise.

592
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: My partner, he was like, I have never heard you

593
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: make a noise even close to the noise that you

594
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: just made. Like it was a genuine like he said,

595
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: it was kind of funny because like he wasn't sure

596
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: if it was real or not, because it was like

597
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: a very deep masculine screen and you'd think, you think

598
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: with me that, like my natural inclination and fear would

599
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, you know, but it was much more.

600
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, that was hot.

601
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah I know. But he came running downstairs and I

602
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: was like, did you see him? Did you see him?

603
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: And he was like, what are you talking about? Because

604
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: he walked towards our bathroom, which is a dead end.

605
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: And I was like, John Michael, I swear to you,

606
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: I am not making this up to scare you. There

607
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: was a man in our house. Just now, like, straight up,

608
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: there was a man in our house. And I will

609
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: never forget the image of this for the rest of

610
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: my life. He was where exactly what Ralph was wearing

611
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: in the picture, like a flannel like jeans and a

612
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: flannel like again similar to my dad, like a work

613
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: shirt and like jeans and boots and like I mean,

614
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: I it was quick. So like I can't say for

615
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: certain that it's exactly the same thing that Ralph was

616
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: wearing in the photo, but it was close enough.

617
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: It's like something he was.

618
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: It was something he it was definitely something he would

619
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: have worn. And I will say this, I did not

620
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: get malevolence from this presence. It was just shocking to me.

621
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: I just felt like he was there, you know, and

622
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: from that point forward, we were on the lookout.

623
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: In your opinion, do you think that that goes back

624
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about earlier, with a ghost

625
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: that doesn't realize there a ghost.

626
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: It's just like I don't think he realizes he's a ghost, Okay.

627
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: I think that this was such a labor of love

628
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: for him, that building this house. I think he was

629
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: an immigrant. I think from what Miriam has told me,

630
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: I I think this was like a dream of his

631
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 3: to build this house. And he finally, after many years,

632
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: after much saving, was able to build his own house

633
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, in California. And I did that.

634
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: I would not leave right exactly. I would say I

635
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: paid this money. I don't care if I'm living or dead,

636
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in this damn house. So now here's

637
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: one more thing I want to put out. Though, because

638
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: of remodeling and stuff. I bet you you said that

639
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: was a dead end. It probably wasn't a dead end

640
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: in his mind. He's just going, Oh my god, you're right. Yeah,

641
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 2: that's why I do what I do.

642
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: That's interesting, that's really interesting. I hadn't even thought about that.

643
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: So that happened John Michael a little like suspicious sort

644
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: of like what how much did you smoke? Like? What sativa?

645
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: Were you? What? What was the strain, bab what was

646
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: the strain? You know? Like, and he doesn't necessarily believe me.

647
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 3: And then a couple months later after that, I get home,

648
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: I think John Michael's home. Did he goes in the

649
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: office like twice a week, so like it's it's never

650
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: and it's never regular, So I always just assume that

651
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: he's home when I come home and I'm standing in

652
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: the kitchen and I'm going through my mail, and I feel,

653
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: and I swear to God, this was not a muscle spasm,

654
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: This was not a cramp. I feel someone come up

655
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: behind me and grab me right here on the side

656
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: on like where like a love handle exist. I wasn't

657
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: Joe kam booth right grab me fully, and I thought

658
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: it was John Michael sneaking up on me to surprise me.

659
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: But I was completely alone. I was like freaking out

660
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: in like close to tears honestly because I was like,

661
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, and again, no malevolence, just like someone

662
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: trying to be like, hey, I'm.

663
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Here, but still there's a way to do it.

664
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: I know. And I'm also like, don't touch me. That's

665
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: don't touch me.

666
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: My biggest problem with ghosts. They don't ask for consent. Nope,

667
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: and and the touching is my biggest Yeah, I don't

668
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: want that, don't like that, didn't appreciate that. And then

669
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: this started happening, which is when we really got concerned

670
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: because up until this point, John Michael had not really

671
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: experienced any of these things, like he'd experienced like things

672
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: that shouldn't have fallen, falling things like that. But again,

673
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: he's a much more like logically.

674
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: Minded, like you know, computer brain person, and so he

675
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: was not on the ghost train at all. And then suddenly,

676
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: like every once in a while I would be downstairs

677
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: in like my office or in the bedroom and I

678
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: would hear someone run across the living room. Okay, I

679
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: like when ghosts run run across the living room, and

680
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was John Michael. And then I like

681
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: started noticing it would happen when he wasn't home or

682
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: when he was like in the same room as me,

683
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: and I was like, babe, did you hear that? And

684
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: he was like yeah, And that's when i'd like get

685
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 3: the bat because I assumed someone was in our fucking house.

686
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: And then I was gone. I was doing work somewhere

687
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: and John Michael was home alone, sitting in the living room.

688
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was watching TV or what happened,

689
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: but he heard someone run across the room in the

690
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: same way that we've heard several times. But he was

691
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: in the room. He was in the room, and he

692
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: could hear the person very clearly run in front of

693
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: him across the room, the same path that we had

694
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: been hearing for like weeks or months at this point. Yeah,

695
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: and that's when he got really freaked out. That's when

696
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: he finally became a believer because he was like a

697
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: little bit, a little bit because I felt a little justified.

698
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: I felt a little justified and so it was time

699
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: to do something. And what I decided to do was

700
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: this because I have a couple of friends who as

701
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: a joke gift several years ago, I think during probably lockdown,

702
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: my friend got my other friend a certificate for this

703
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: woman who's a ghostbuster, professional ghostbuster to ghostbust his house.

704
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: She does certificates, she does gift certificates. I need to

705
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: do that, Yeah you do. She does it all remotely

706
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: from Florida, does not come to your house, does not

707
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: zoom with you, just talks to you, doesn't ask for

708
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: a picture of your house. Okay, she just knows. She's

709
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: just into it.

710
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: Okay, this is great. I'm I'm over here at scheme

711
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: made And of course, like this all.

712
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: Start is a little bit of a joke. This all

713
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: started is a little bit of a joke, like, oh,

714
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 3: this woman, Like.

715
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: But did a friend go to her? Where does she

716
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 2: come from?

717
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: She? I don't know how she was discovered originally, but

718
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: my friend was given the gift card for her and

719
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: he used her first and like we joke, joke, joke, joke,

720
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: joke because they're like when she did his house and

721
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 3: some of your listeners might know who I'm talking about

722
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name names, but this has been

723
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: told on his podcast and other podcasts. But like there

724
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: was a ghost trial happening in his house that she

725
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: was aware of. There, you know, like someone was being

726
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: put on trial by other ghosts. There was a ghost jury.

727
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Wait, what was this? What you don't want to say that,

728
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: but they said it on their podcast.

729
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: It was Brian Sofie.

730
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I've talked to him about his ghosts. I never

731
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: heard about the ghost trial.

732
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, talk to him about the ghost trial. And

733
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: of course another friend of mine uses the same woman

734
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: again sort of as a joke, but this is a

735
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: thing like her son would not sleep in his room

736
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: three years old, would not sleep in his room, said

737
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: there's something in that room. I will not go near it.

738
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Please do not make me go in that room. And

739
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: she like start like whatever, She let him sleep wherever

740
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: he wanted. And then suddenly like she mentions it to

741
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: her nanny, who's Hispanic or Latino, and she was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

742
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: the devil's room. I like put a glass of water

743
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 3: in that room, Like I don't go in that room.

744
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: I don't go in that room. There's evil in that room.

745
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 3: And then another friend mentioned that like they had walked

746
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: by that room and someone had tried to pull them

747
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: into that room. Oh my god, and so she used

748
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: this woman hang on. So the devil, the one that

749
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: we've heard about all these years, is in a child's bedroom.

750
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Florida the devil. I

751
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: don't know if it was the no no, And this

752
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 3: is not in Florida. This is in La.

753
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense.

754
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: She does it remotely from Florida. Her work goes so,

755
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: but it's all in La got it. Child goes in

756
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: the room and says, all right, it's good, but you

757
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: need to tell her to get the vent too, and

758
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: get the vent. And but what is she doing like remotely,

759
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: she's doing a lot of things. Okay, and I'll read you.

760
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the receipt the breakdown.

761
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: That she's like a menu of different events arise.

762
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: Let me see if I can find it. Honestly, I

763
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: kind of I don't know. I believe it, Okay, So

764
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: this is I'm going to read you just the receipt

765
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: that she gave me after she did my home. Okay,

766
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 3: So this is the basic breakdown. Remove the following possessions

767
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: from each of you. Joel forty six, John Michael forty eight.

768
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 3: Two more possessions than I had.

769
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's how many possessions?

770
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know why he got two

771
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: more possessions than I did.

772
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Are you a little jealous?

773
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: A little jealous?

774
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what's wrong with me?

775
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: I know exactly what's wrong. Like, look at the material. Honestly,

776
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: maybe race based, but I'm not going to go there, dumb.

777
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: None were demonic type energies, more like ghost energies. So

778
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: that's nice. That's nice to hear that.

779
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: We weren't forty eight people. Yeah, now here's this would

780
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: be my problem. I go, is one of them funny?

781
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: Because if you take that out, I need that, I know,

782
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: bring her back, bring her back, And it is a her.

783
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: The funny one was a her.

784
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: Course of course, we know that.

785
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: Okay, remove twenty eight discarnate energies from your house again,

786
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: ghost type energies. I have fully cleared the property. And

787
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: then here's the rest of the receipt. Okay. Other energies,

788
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: including various portals, are covered below. All negative energies were

789
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: removed or fixed in some way as no longer affect

790
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: the property. Six negative portals cleared and closed if inside,

791
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: cleared and left open if outside. Two portals to the

792
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: underworld closed and sealed. One intergalactic hole blocked. Twenty five

793
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: ceialing portals closed. One mirror portal in the primary bedroom closed.

794
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: Which I do have a mirror, a big mirror in

795
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: the primary bedroom, and we did have weird instances with it.

796
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: So I'll say that she didn't see an I'll give

797
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: her that. I'll give her that she doesn't even she

798
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: doesn't even have a picture of my house. Okay, she

799
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: didn't even have a fucking picture. She might have looked

800
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: it up on zillow, but like, that's it. The closet

801
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: seems to have two very large mirrors on it, mirrors

802
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: both projecting out into a space and reflect back what's

803
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: going on in a space. I often recommend to change

804
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: out the close the closet mirror doors for something non

805
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: reflective and find another location for a mirror that helps

806
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: you dress. Okay. Eight negative vortices with one matrix card

807
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: cleared and turned positive. Dimensional energy is removed, one plugged

808
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 3: lay line cleared, One non beneficial geopathic zone neutralized. Twenty

809
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: eight interference lines blocked, three energy walls removed, dark blobs removed,

810
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: one all dark being removed.

811
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: But what she took your dark blobs.

812
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 3: She took the blobs, She took the blobs, she took

813
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: it all.

814
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: She took your blobs in her intergalactic hole.

815
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but one tall dark being removed, which is notable.

816
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: The possessions targets. We each had targets on us from

817
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: the underworld. I had twenty one targets on me again.

818
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: John Michael had twenty four targets on him.

819
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: They love him.

820
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: I don't get it.

821
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: What do you mean you're engaged to this person?

822
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: I know, but like, why not me? Anyways, And then

823
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 3: we were tagged as well, and I had thirty six

824
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: tags removed. John Michael had thirty nine tags.

825
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Tag?

826
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: Donna couldn't tell you? And I have added for clarification.

827
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: I've I've texted her and asked for clarification, I have

828
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: yet to receive. I need to follow up, and I

829
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: should have done that before I came in here to

830
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: figure out what some of these things mean. So she

831
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: does this and does this, and then you're allowed one

832
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 3: more follow up, Okay, if in case she misses something

833
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: a tune up, you know, set, hence the like she

834
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: needs to get the vent too right, which I will say,

835
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: my friend with that son, he sleeps in that room.

836
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 3: It's all fine and gravy now, But here's the rub. Okay,

837
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: here is the rub. We have not heard nor seen Ralph.

838
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: The footsteps are gone. I have not seen the presence.

839
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: I have not even felt a presence. I do feel

840
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: later in my house. It's weird. It's weird. I do

841
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: feel more comfortable in my house alone at night. It's strange,

842
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: but my boyfriend has had many reoccurring dreams of a

843
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: man standing just outside in our backyard. So our our

844
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: primary bedroom has these like sliding glass doors that lead

845
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: out to our backyard, and my boyfriend has had many

846
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: dreams of a man that, as described to me, sounds

847
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 3: like the same man.

848
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: That I saw walk the hallway flannel.

849
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: Standing in the middle of our yard, or standing right

850
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: up against the door as though he's trying to get

851
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: back in.

852
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: Yes, she probably was like, you gotta go outside, but

853
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: you know he's so he's still a ghost.

854
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's still and now he's probably pissed

855
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: at us because he's just got the fucking yard, and boy,

856
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: ol boy, when we put a pool in, he's gonna

857
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 3: be furious.

858
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, just because I have a lot of people

859
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: that are very into the stuff that listen to this podcast,

860
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, you know, you got rid of

861
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: this ghost and he wasn't doing anything wrong or whatever.

862
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: My personal opinion, whoever's paying the bills is the one

863
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: in charge of who's gonna be in my house.

864
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: I had the same concern too, because I explained to her,

865
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: I said, listen, I'm not getting malevolence. It's not giving malevolence. Okay,

866
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 3: Like it's creepy, it's uncomfortable, but like whatever, and she

867
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: was like, I am simply setting him free, Like I

868
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: am like releasing him from this loop. Like I think

869
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: she probably is more on the side of the debunker

870
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: that I mentioned at the top, where it was like,

871
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 3: he just has this deep connection to this house because

872
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: he loved this house and he doesn't even know he's dead. Yeah.

873
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. This scenario seems like the residual haunting.

874
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: It's just he's running, he's walking where there used to

875
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: not be a dead end.

876
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: He's grabbing at my love handles, you know, like, but

877
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: she like assured me that she was simply setting him

878
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 3: free from the cycle of this home. And so I

879
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: hope that is the case. And I hope that my

880
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: boyfriend's dreams are not indicative of this man trying to

881
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: get back into the house.

882
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell her you got to get the backyard?

883
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: I actually might, I actually might follow up with her.

884
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: It's been a minute. I might. I might miss my window,

885
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: and but I might pay for it again. Listen, And

886
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you how much I paid for

887
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: this woman. I'm not gonna tell you, but let me

888
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: tell you. Uh. It is one of those yeah, I've

889
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 3: made it moments because I could afford to do something

890
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: almost as a bit like because I could have had

891
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: you do the word.

892
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: But it worked. See now, I can never promise anybody

893
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna help anything, right. I just want the

894
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: content right right at the end of the day, I

895
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: want to get a go And why.

896
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: Do you think we did this too? Like I wanted

897
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: the receipt. I wanted to see the receipt and see

898
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: how many stories, see how many blobs she removed, et cetera,

899
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: et cetera. But like she's helped my friend in an

900
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: immeasurable way. The sun sleeps in the room now, you know,

901
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: you can't explain it, like the dog is not freaking

902
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 3: out about the room anymore. It's very strange.

903
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: It's very unusual, Like we always want a professional to

904
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: help us with a specific problem that we don't understand,

905
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: whether it's like a health problem or a legal problem,

906
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But when you have a ghost, you're like,

907
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: who do I turn to? And there's various ways. You

908
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: can go the priest route, you can go the blob

909
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: removal whatever it is. And since we don't know how

910
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: all this works, I do think some of it is

911
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: like a it has some connection to our brain. It

912
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: seems I don't know what it is whatever. But I

913
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: really think like if it would make me feel better

914
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: to pay someone to just be like it's gone now,

915
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: I would probably believe that.

916
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: Well, no, and this is my this is this is

917
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: sort of a theory or a framework that I've stolen

918
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: from my boyfriend, which I believe really truly, which is

919
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: both astrology and say taro for instance. I don't think

920
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: there's any intrinsic magic in either of those things. But

921
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 3: if it gives you a framework to look at your

922
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: life and it helps you in some way. Then hell yeah,

923
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: pull your Tarot card every day because it does. Like

924
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: that's all it is. It's just it's just giving you

925
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: a framework to look at your life and process your

926
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: life and maybe don't make any like major decisions based

927
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: on you know, pulling the six of cups cart that day.

928
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: But it does, Like every time that I've had my

929
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 3: Tarot red it just makes me think about a situation

930
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 3: in my life in a much different way. And that

931
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: alone is helpful, and so like you know, and and

932
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: it's I think it's similar in this way. I mean,

933
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: I spend a lot more money than I needed to

934
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: to get that sort of relief, but like it is psychological,

935
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: and I do think that psychologically, I feel less scared

936
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 3: in my home alone.

937
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: Now hell yeah, we're crystals too, are like another one

938
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: where I'm like, first of all, they're gorgeous. Yeah, if

939
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: you want to tell me that this, you know I have,

940
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: this is going to keep a demon away? Yes, I'd

941
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: rather have it.

942
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, what's the worst that can happen? Oh?

943
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: I have a pretty rock Yeah, who gives a shit?

944
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: It's best case scenario, it keeps the demon out. Worst

945
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: case scenario, you have a beautiful rock and the demon

946
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 3: would have got you. Anyways, there you go.

947
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: Now, it's interesting that you had a crystal magnet.

948
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: That's amethyst. Yeah.

949
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: I theorize maybe he was looking for a threutle.

950
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know what, That's what I never got

951
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: clear from Miriam was if Ralph was ever married or

952
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: had a family. I don't think he did. I don't

953
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: think he did, and I don't think he was able

954
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 3: to pass down the house to anyone if I if

955
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: I remember the story.

956
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: Correctly, eligible bachelor. Yeah, coming out behind the house was

957
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: his family.

958
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: And I kicked him. No, I feel kind of guilty.

959
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: You didn't kick him out, You just made him really backyard.

960
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, released him to the backyard. Released him to the backyard.

961
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: He's an outdoor cat. Now, let the coyotes deal with him.

962
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: But you know, he might have wanted he might have wanted,

963
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: you know, to join the relationship.

964
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 3: And you know what, if I got a better look at.

965
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: Him, That's that's the thing. It's all marketing. It's just

966
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 2: like dating apps. You have to put your best foot

967
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 2: forward or I'm gonna swipe I will swipe you out

968
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: of here and put you in the backyard. But when

969
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: you were in this situation where you like, I want

970
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: this ghost gone, or were you just like trying to

971
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: figure it out?

972
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I think for us at first it

973
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: was much more about like, what is happening and is

974
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: this Ralph right? Like are we wrong? Because that was

975
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: the other thing, like we were like Ralph made the

976
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: most sense, you know, based on the pictures, that's based

977
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: on the bill.

978
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: You know for sure that it was Ralph exactly.

979
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: You don't know that exactly.

980
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: And this it could be these damn portals and blobs and.

981
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: Whatever lay lines and things like that whole My friends,

982
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: she said that she got a unicorn out of her

983
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 3: house and a dragon out of her house.

984
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: You know what, for everyone, a.

985
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: Mother dragon was removed from her house.

986
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: Now, who was that ghost? Someone that was Game of Thrones,

987
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: an old dragon that was out of work, that died

988
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: in that house.

989
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 3: Dragon's gonna be in houses, I know. I just yeah,

990
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 3: I think I'm like, I'm I'm better safe than sorry. Yes,

991
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 3: you know, especially now that he's appearing to my boyfriend

992
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: in dreams. I'm sort of like, okay, but I also

993
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 3: want to say emotional cheating. Yeah, seriously, fuck him if

994
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 3: you want him, but just like.

995
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: About him every night when I'm right next to you,

996
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 2: Chapel Roone. You know, people, people are freaky when you're

997
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: in the public and to have to always be on

998
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: guard in your own home that you pay for and

999
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 2: you're hearing people running in your house, yeah, and you're

1000
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: seeing strange men in your basement. I don't blame you

1001
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: for wanting to and that.

1002
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 3: That's the number of times I ran upstairs because I

1003
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: thought my boyfriend was home and like running across the

1004
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 3: living room floor and no one was there.

1005
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 2: No, when not when it's your home.

1006
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. I am so glad I was

1007
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: not there to witness the running in the same room.

1008
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 3: That is that would have I think that would have

1009
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: I mean seeing I saw him, so like, I still

1010
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: think I win a little bit, But like I think,

1011
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: like if I was in that room and I heard

1012
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: someone that I could not see run across the room,

1013
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: it would have ruined me. We would have had to move.

1014
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: I hate that. Yeah, Joe, Yeah, can I show you

1015
00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: a haunted doll?

1016
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 3: You can? You certainly can? I Oh, I fucking hate

1017
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 3: this shit.

1018
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: Oh, it's fun the way I do it. It's time

1019
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: for a segment I like to call the dolls are living.

1020
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: So what I do is I go to eBay dot

1021
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: com and I type in the words haunted doll. Surprisingly,

1022
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: actually not surprisingly, this was not gonna be surprising to you,

1023
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: especially after that invoice you just told me about. But

1024
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: there are thousands of haunted dolls that people are selling

1025
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: for money online. And the great thing about them they

1026
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: always have pictures, and they have bios, and the bios

1027
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: usually the belief is when you die, your choices are

1028
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: heaven hell haunted e Bay doll. Okay, that's what I think.

1029
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: That's how I interpret this. And so this is a

1030
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: person that was once living now somehow is in this

1031
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: haunted doll. Okay, do you like my Liberaci doll?

1032
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 3: By the way, now, dude, he has been giving me

1033
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 3: the vibe the whole time.

1034
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: But yeah, well let's talk about he's saying room for

1035
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: one more okay, uh jeeha. Can you please show us

1036
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: Emma you got it? Ros Emma is currently going for

1037
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: seventy dollars. WHOA, that's Emma. She's she might not be

1038
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: what you were expecting, because.

1039
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: Usually expecting at all.

1040
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: We are usually expecting lots of you know, ruffles and lace,

1041
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: kind of medieval. Now, this lady, this appears to be

1042
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: an older woman.

1043
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 3: I saw her on the bus recently. She lives in

1044
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 3: La like she does look like. First of all, she's

1045
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: very uh liberal. Oh she is the head of the

1046
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: h OA like she is.

1047
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: I think paper mache. She just appears to be an

1048
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: older woman.

1049
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: Beautiful green eyes, gorgeous, beautiful green eyes.

1050
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 2: I like this kind of woman.

1051
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: Actually, are you too? And you know she wears a

1052
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: mask outside too, Yeah, you know she's still masking outside.

1053
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and she is. She's got she's.

1054
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: Clutching a ticket. She's clutching a ticket to the Hollywood

1055
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: Bowl where she wore a mask outside.

1056
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 2: To see who probably, Oh my god, it is a ticket.

1057
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: What is that? Jimmy Buffett, Jimmy Buffett. I bet she's

1058
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: a parrot head. This woman is a parrot head. I

1059
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: believe she has a Kamala sign in her front yard.

1060
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh death death.

1061
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh, she's got a little feet.

1062
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: She's got she looks like she has compression. Sucks definitely,

1063
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: she just got off a plane. She needs.

1064
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: This is where I'm like, what is the story of

1065
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: this was this someone's art project, Like, I don't know what.

1066
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: This is based off of a person. I think this

1067
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: was a doll meant to look like a very specific

1068
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: person and they gifted it to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1069
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 3: And I think the ticket, and I think the hat,

1070
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: and I think all of the little details the green

1071
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: eyes green is not an eye color that is often

1072
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: picked first for a doll like this. I think these

1073
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: are very specific details and they were meant for a

1074
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: specific person.

1075
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: And she does have a big hat with flowers on it.

1076
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: I love this woman. I can't wait for the day

1077
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: that I am this woman. Yeah, okay, So Emma has

1078
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: a pretty short bio. It just says Emma is a

1079
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: very special haunted vessel. She comes from a friend of

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Speaker 2: mine who claimed.

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00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 3: She was evil. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Since bringing her into the home, I do hear bangs

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00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: every now and then, but I have mostly had good

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00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: luck with her. Yes, you still hear weird stuff around her,

1085
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: but that's what haunted items usually come with, so be careful.

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01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 2: And it says in all caps, I do not know

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: if this is absolutely a positive spirit. Well, yeah, that's fair.

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we why would you never want to invite

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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: that into your home.

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: I just don't understand loneliness.

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: It really does seem like someone who is like, let's

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01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: lay a match, baby, let's light a match. You see

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 3: it burn? You know, like nothing else going on, might

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: as well have a little adventure.

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: And you're taking a gamble. Yeah, it's you never know

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: what you're going to get. It really is so similar

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01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: to online dating and all of that, Like you just

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01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to be a horrible, horrible

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Speaker 2: experience or.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna hear a couple of bumps and noises

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: and it'll be weird.

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01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, or are you going to get that into galactic

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01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: hole removed? So anyway, that's Emma seventy dollars for anyone

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Speaker 2: in the market. Okay, let's do one more thing. Can

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Speaker 2: I play you some ghost voices?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: It's time for EVP or ev please EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal.

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: It's when people believe they've captured a ghosts familiar.

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 3: I've gotten some of those on my talk boy and

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Speaker 3: you know what, do you know what talk boy is?

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01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: Talk boy?

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01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 3: Yeah? How old are you?

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01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: According to Wikipedia, I'm a few years younger than you.

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you might have just missed it. Do you

1115
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 3: know the movie Home Alone?

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: I think my parents want fuck you?

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01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, anyway, it's the thing that he uses to

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01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: record the voices and then you can distort the voices.

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. We used to think that we could

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01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 3: capture voices on that. Ghosts on that a lot.

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I've got two of them for you. They

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: were posted on YouTube and it was sort of like

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01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: a compilation video that was this group that has like

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: just a bunch of different ghosts, like, oh, here's some

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01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: of our best ones. And the group is called Entity

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 2: Encounters and it's at various locations. What does this one say,

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01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 2: Joe Cam booster.

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Speaker 3: It one time? One more time? I hear I honestly,

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01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 3: I honestly hear like a ghost that's singing along to

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01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 3: Charlie XCX ride you hear it?

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01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 3: I do give that he's he's having a brat summer.

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01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: That's very likely. That is not what Entity Encounters believed.

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01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 3: Okay, what did they think.

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you, abc D. Did they think it

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01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: was a raw please? Maybe they were what kind of

1137
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: sushi you want? I don't want that tempora? Did they

1138
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: think it was b robbery okay, C probably or D

1139
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: Paula Dean.

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01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 3: I think robbery.

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let me play it again.

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: You are correct.

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01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, that is what Entity Encounters heard. They heard robbery.

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01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: I feel very proud of myself.

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: It's very good. Well, you're experienced in this. You've you've

1146
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 2: you've lived in with a ghost that is now in

1147
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: your backyard. Okay, what is this one saying?

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: Uh?

1149
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: Same people posted it. I don't know where.

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01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: Mmm. Okay, one more time I hear do you guys swear?

1151
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: Do you guys swear? But what do you think that means?

1152
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: Like do you say naughty words?

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01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: Or do you no? Yeah, I think it's I think

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01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 3: it's a person begging like their last I think it's

1155
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: their last words, like this isn't gonna hurt? Do you

1156
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: guys swear?

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01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: And then that's what I died. That's scary. Not what

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01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: they thought.

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01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: Oh fuck?

1160
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: Did they think it was a it's good to sweat?

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm?

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01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 2: Did they think it was b I gotta say, ce

1163
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: go this way? Or do baby? You were born this way?

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01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: Can I hear it one more time? Oh?

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: My god? Absolutely go this way? Joe Cambister two for two, Yes,

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01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: perfect record.

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01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 3: I've got a great ear for talent. You after all

1168
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 3: in the in the lounge, singing, singing on top of

1169
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: that piano, and now look at you now, I will say.

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01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: You are one of the few that has always been

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01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: very kind and encouraging to me.

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: Thank you, Rose. Well, it's you make it easy because

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: you're funny. So it's like there are plenty of people

1174
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: who make it difficult to be supportive of.

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01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: There are many young queer comics that I would love

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01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 3: to be more supportive of. You are so funny it

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: makes it very easy. Thank you. Joe.

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01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: Tell us where people can find you and everything you

1180
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: got going on.

1181
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 3: So I should be already on tour by the time

1182
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 3: you're hearing this. It's a US Canada tour that goes

1183
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: all the way through January. Go to linktree dot com,

1184
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: slash Ihlkim or you can just go to my Instagram

1185
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: at ihl kim. All the info is there. And then

1186
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: also just announced I'm doing a European leg of the

1187
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: tour as well in December. Those dates were just announced

1188
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: as well. I'm doing Paris, London, Amsterdam, Berlin, and I

1189
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: think somewhere else. But yeah, I'm really excited. I have

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01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: never done other than London. I've never done in Europe,

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01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: so I'm a little nervous and I'm really excited. Oh

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: my god, Please, if you're listening from any of those places,

1193
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: tell your friends buy tickets, uh, et cetera, et cetera.

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to think if there's anything else that

1195
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 3: needs to be plucked, but I don't think so.

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: But this has been great, Jill, this has been so lovely.

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01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 3: I know that we've had to move this around a

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01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: million times because of both of us, but I'm so

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01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 3: glad that. I'm so glad that we got to be tactile.

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01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,479
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you had a ghost in your house.

1201
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: Me too, because I've never seen someone light up more

1202
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 3: than when I mentioned I had a ghost in my house.

1203
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You don't know the emails I've sent

1204
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: six years, the people do you have you ever? Do

1205
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: you know someone that had a ghost in the house. Anything?

1206
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: And to have somebody that I would want on regardless

1207
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: that moved into it was the perfect time. I'm so

1208
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: glad you didn't come on back when I originally asked you.

1209
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: Oh, same same, I would. I don't know what I

1210
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: would have talked about.

1211
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: This is the moment that we needed because because here's

1212
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: anything beginning middle end dream for me, beginning middle end

1213
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: ghost story. And I'm going to put this in one

1214
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: of the top ghost Story Guests episodes.

1215
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: Can you do me an honor? You can do me

1216
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: an honor?

1217
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: Rose, Thank you so much to joke him Booster. What

1218
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: a dream guest. Go check out everything he does. He's everywhere.

1219
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: It would be harder to not see him doing what

1220
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: he does because he does it so much, and he

1221
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: does it so well, and he does it all over

1222
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 2: the place. I love you and I'm so happy you're listening.

1223
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: It's Halloween week. Be safe out there, kids, dress up,

1224
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: wear a costume. I'm giving you permission. Don't buy a

1225
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: store bought costume. Do some arts and crafts, do a

1226
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: quick little Joe Anne visit, Go to Michael's. I know

1227
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: the line's gonna be long, but wait it out. You're

1228
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 2: gonna be so grateful you did, cause the next next

1229
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: October people are gonna be like, oh, what have you

1230
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: dressed like for Halloween? And then you're gonna be like, well,

1231
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: when I was a kid, No, you want to go,

1232
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: oh my god, last year it was iconic. I was

1233
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 2: the lady from Chimp Crazy or whatever you decide. Just

1234
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: I highly recommend you dress up and treat yourself to

1235
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: lots of candy and a horror movie The Haunted Doll

1236
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: on YouTube and this podcast. I love you all, both

1237
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you.

1238
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 3: To haunt me, don't haunt me came back.

1239
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

1240
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

1241
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email me

1242
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. You can

1243
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: send a DM or voice message to the show's instagram

1244
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow while you're there,

1245
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: and follow me Roz on Instagram at roz Hernandez and

1246
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 2: on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. My senior

1247
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

1249
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the

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01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising

1251
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: Hannah Kyle Crichton. The theme music is by the spine

1252
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 2: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the

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Speaker 2: Frightening Danielle Kramer.