Speaker 1: Did. He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys
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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your hosts,
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us. Well, two
Speaker 1: weeks from today, we're all going to meet at this
Speaker 1: fine establishment they call the Star and talk about having
Speaker 1: a draft, not really talk about it. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: a draft. Brian brought us, Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Kent Garrison.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Draft Show. Side to have you for
Speaker 1: this week. We're getting close, boys. We say that every week.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like, Dane, were you ready for this
Speaker 1: thing two weeks ago? A week ago? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: I think were I mean, really, the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: just teams are teams are scrammling a little bit right now.
Speaker 1: Team the teams are the medical reach actually going on?
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, I think that's the that's the last big
Speaker 1: step that we have going on. Yeah, uh, you know
Speaker 1: what's going on. John Ross, Ruben Foster, Ryan Ramcheck. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of David Moreau yeah, he's included. I mean
Speaker 1: there are plenty Tachy. You hate Fabian Moreau, Oh, I
Speaker 1: love you, just love Fabian's But yeah, you know you're
Speaker 1: right about the recheck there. There's you know, plenty of
Speaker 1: first round possibilities that dependent on the information that comes
Speaker 1: out of Indie. The next two days today and tomorrow
Speaker 1: could really kind of shake things up. Cowboys brought in
Speaker 1: Fabian Moreau, Tack McKinley, and Tack a couple of injured
Speaker 1: guys right there, David Hellman, that they did. We've got
Speaker 1: you convinced now that you would like Tack McKinley. I've done.
Speaker 1: I've done a pretty good little one eighty on old
Speaker 1: Tach McKinley. I'm he's not He's not the guy that
Speaker 1: I best case scenario that I want. But you can
Speaker 1: go find me saying I'm very anti that pick. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm had a bad experience with him last night.
Speaker 1: It was that Tack Tack McKinley. Not from what I saw.
Speaker 1: You didn't watch what I didn't cross the wheeler the
Speaker 1: wheeler kid from USC kicked his butt a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of one of those things, kind of one of
Speaker 1: those things where you're like going and it was a
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and I were watching tape. We
Speaker 1: were watching Wheeler. We were just trying. We're looking for lineman.
Speaker 1: You know, do you like Wheeler? You know what, I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was terrible, but he was blocking tack
Speaker 1: McKinley and it's I know, it's a rivalry game USC
Speaker 1: in UCLA. Bothered me a little bit. I was hoping
Speaker 1: that he would kind of tear a Wheeler up. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's what McKinley. Speed and missy. That guy, well,
Speaker 1: speed and motor, that's what he is right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think the the testing drills, the three cone,
Speaker 1: the short shot of that showed a little tightness. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know he's just he's not a refined pass
Speaker 1: rusher with his hands. I mean he'll use his hands.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he has much thought. And scared me
Speaker 1: a little bit last night of hate when that happens
Speaker 1: for the millionth time, Like you're picking twenty eighth, you're not, no,
Speaker 1: but I you know what's not gonna be that guy.
Speaker 1: But I want a guy that can. I want a
Speaker 1: guy that can beat a six round offensive tackle. That's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm asking. So now I'm on team tape. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm with it. I'm just saying it. It. Man, when
Speaker 1: you go back and watch that tape and you're you're
Speaker 1: watching somebody else and you're thinking, Okay, there's that guy,
Speaker 1: there's that guy, there's you know, you're kind of bouncing around,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he has six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight plays in a row where he's not even sniffing
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah. I think that happens quite a bit
Speaker 1: on his tape. I mean I speed and motor that's
Speaker 1: his game. And if he doesn't win off the snap,
Speaker 1: you know, blockers can control him. He's not the biggest
Speaker 1: guy either, he's six two two fifty. Those are great traits,
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, speed and I'll take speed and
Speaker 1: motors spash at twenty eight. That's why I think he's
Speaker 1: definitely in consideration at twenty eighth, and why there's a
Speaker 1: chance he might not be there at twenty eight. Today,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little show. We're gonna I want
Speaker 1: to get into Dane Brugler's two round mock draft that
Speaker 1: he did for CBS Sports, because I think he's got
Speaker 1: some interesting players on this board at several different spots,
Speaker 1: the guys I consider first round players, and we've been
Speaker 1: talking about really how deep this draft is. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that. We're gonna we're gonna do that here in
Speaker 1: a second. We're also gonna play a little Twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty. We encourage you guys to get your questions
Speaker 1: in at the draft show to David Hellman, that's our
Speaker 1: best way to answer your questions about these players. Give
Speaker 1: you a little idea what we think. Maybe you have
Speaker 1: a guy or two that you know you're curious about,
Speaker 1: and we can help you out with that. We'll also
Speaker 1: do tell me more again. I always talk about that
Speaker 1: as being one of my favorite segments because that's David
Speaker 1: Hellman's way of trying to dig a little deeper in
Speaker 1: this draft. Maybe a name or two when we have
Speaker 1: our three days of draft coverage here in two weeks,
Speaker 1: that when a name pops up, you're like, hey, I've
Speaker 1: heard that name before. So David is a really nice
Speaker 1: job of getting those guys. We got some good ones.
Speaker 1: We do got some good ones. Dane Brugler's mock draft
Speaker 1: second first round. We talked about that a little bit
Speaker 1: last week the two round mock draft. Here's a second
Speaker 1: round at thirty three, Cleveland takes Tredavious White, cornerbacket from
Speaker 1: Ellis and you kind of feel like he's a first
Speaker 1: round player there. The Cleveland Browns are getting too thirty three,
Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah, and they coached him at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and yeah, familiarity there every year. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think this year especially, we're going to see him there.
Speaker 1: How much difference is there between twenty five and forty five?
Speaker 1: We'll get ready, We're about to get to this, right,
Speaker 1: So that's that's why this is my point here, Right,
Speaker 1: this is about to be when I this is what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to the point. I'm trying to about to
Speaker 1: read off some names that yeah, yeah, how about Marlon
Speaker 1: Humphrey just San Francisco at thirty four? Wow, how about
Speaker 1: Tach McKinley to the to the Rams at thirty seven?
Speaker 1: We just talked about Tack McKinley. We're talking about him
Speaker 1: as a twenty eighth for the Cowboys thirty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys were all over chumping back going back in
Speaker 1: this draft. I would backflip. I would be so excited
Speaker 1: if I could tell you that Tack McKinley was gonna
Speaker 1: be there at at thirty seven if you traded to
Speaker 1: the Rams, would you go back? Absolutely, you'd go back,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you? Every guy that you've listed so far as
Speaker 1: a guy that I would want? Oh, how about this one?
Speaker 1: Dane gives the New York Jets at thirty nine, He's
Speaker 1: gonna give him Charles Harris, Charles Harris fan. I'm a
Speaker 1: Charles Harris fan. I would I would venture a guest
Speaker 1: that in mock draft world, Charles Harris is the most
Speaker 1: mocked the leader in the clubhouse to be by far,
Speaker 1: I think by far at twenty eight. Yeah, that's thirty
Speaker 1: nine right there. So you're telling me I could get
Speaker 1: the same player the same I could potentially get a
Speaker 1: guy I want at twenty eight, at thirty seven, and
Speaker 1: now at thirty nine. That's this draft? Yeah? Okay, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going here, get ready reading, keep reading?
Speaker 1: But forty forty Taco Charlton, Wow, going to the going
Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers at forty how about it forty two?
Speaker 1: I know you guys don't like this guy. Dane hates
Speaker 1: this guy, So that's okay. Saints you think Saints take
Speaker 1: a forty two guy that we hate. No, yea, he
Speaker 1: hates him. No, it's not fair. I gotta that's not
Speaker 1: He doesn't hate this guy. Willis Fabian Moreau. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's a guy I would consider at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: He's a thirty visit for the Cowboys. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they would consider him at twenty eight. Every guy that is,
Speaker 1: I think every guy you've listed off. First of all,
Speaker 1: a lot of them are thirty visits. Second of all,
Speaker 1: I think that they would consider most of them at
Speaker 1: twenty eight, depending on how the board. Forty two Let
Speaker 1: me do this for you. How about this one forty
Speaker 1: three Philadelphia Eagles. I think this board's legitimate. By the way,
Speaker 1: I think he's just reading. Dan Dane does a great
Speaker 1: job with this. Read the name, big guy. He's Tabor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: forty three Philadelphia Eagles. I think he would be a
Speaker 1: consideration at twenty eight. Here, I think people see the
Speaker 1: people are enamored with his speed. Go watch him play, though,
Speaker 1: just press play I have I'm not moving Hi out
Speaker 1: the first round. I know you dumped him. I did
Speaker 1: early second round, early second round. So at forty three
Speaker 1: you're praising the Eagles for that pick, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's a solid pick for them. I mean I
Speaker 1: think it's right around the range where he should go.
Speaker 1: So if Dallas takes him at twenty eight, you're on day,
Speaker 1: the first night of the draft. You're gonna sit here
Speaker 1: with all of us and say, well, that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a reach, right, I think they're better players
Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah. Oh, I'll see about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see about that. At forty six. Wazizia excuse me,
Speaker 1: God always miss his name up Woozier Colorado cornerback at
Speaker 1: forty six to Indy. I don't think i'd take him
Speaker 1: at twenty eight. No, is that a reach for them
Speaker 1: at forty six? I don't think so. I mean, these
Speaker 1: corners are so you're you're not going to get a
Speaker 1: consensus order. It would not surprise me if we have
Speaker 1: you know, Woozier as I don't consider Woozy in the
Speaker 1: same class with Rowan Tabor, and that's two pixel. I
Speaker 1: know teams that do, because I think his versatility is key.
Speaker 1: At forty six, you're talking about the halfway point of
Speaker 1: the second round. I mean, it's not like like you're
Speaker 1: you're getting back. Let me tell you a couple other
Speaker 1: names as Mosey down this board guy, I like Carl
Speaker 1: Lawson forty seven to Ozzie Newsom and them at Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Ozzie just picking good players, that's what they did. He
Speaker 1: Ozzie could sit there and it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a turkey sandwich, diet PEPSI. Here. Who's
Speaker 1: on the board, Oh Carl Lawson? Oh yeah, hand that
Speaker 1: card in. We sat next to Ozzie for the whole
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I love Ozzie and Brian was just trying
Speaker 1: to get him to tell him his secrets. It was great.
Speaker 1: I love him. He's always so nice to me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah you dream Lamb Barbecue with him still talking to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: dream Lamb Barbecue. Gotta try that place out by the way.
Speaker 1: How about this one? All right? This is an interest one.
Speaker 1: I think I think Dane's got this one dead. I
Speaker 1: think he's got this one dead on Minnesota at forty eight.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. Hey, if you last that long. Dane and
Speaker 1: I were at the Oklahoma Pro Day. Who was who
Speaker 1: was the one general manager and coach head coach that
Speaker 1: we're at the pro day, Spielman and Zimmer exactly. Spielman
Speaker 1: and Zimmer makes this guy right here, This is thinking,
Speaker 1: This is thinking when you're sitting there, like, you know
Speaker 1: what he knows. Joe Mixon's a really good player. Remember somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, the anonymous quotes that come out around this
Speaker 1: time of year. Somebody was like, you're taking the hit
Speaker 1: if you pick him in the first or the seventh.
Speaker 1: So if you was great, that's a great quote. By
Speaker 1: the way, I wish i'd have thought of that, you
Speaker 1: might as well do it. Yeah, I mean, hey, he's
Speaker 1: my seventeenth best player in my top my top fifties
Speaker 1: coming out, by the way, that's coming out real soon.
Speaker 1: With Mixon. It just comes down to value, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's the draft forty eight. You don't want you
Speaker 1: don't want to take a player before you have to.
Speaker 1: So if you take I mean, I understand it, thinking
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take him in the third, you might
Speaker 1: as well take him in the first. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you can get him in the second, then you wait
Speaker 1: till a second. You get a first round player in
Speaker 1: the first, you get him. I made the prediction. I
Speaker 1: made the prediction watch Cincinnati at forty one. Yeah, that sure,
Speaker 1: I think that's Dane's got Stewart from Alabama, the wide
Speaker 1: receiver going at forty one. Cincinnati's my team. You got
Speaker 1: to watch them for that does the questionable guy criminal team?
Speaker 1: The criminal team, here's one Zach Cunningham forty nine to
Speaker 1: the Redskins. Okay, can I hijack this for a second,
Speaker 1: and I may hijack this, you know what, To be honest,
Speaker 1: I want to know, and I'm putting you on the
Speaker 1: spot a little bit. But who is Dane taken in
Speaker 1: the top thirty two? That's got all that because everybody
Speaker 1: that you've said is a common commonly seen first round.
Speaker 1: We went through his mock draft, We went to your
Speaker 1: mock draft last week. I think the only surprise is
Speaker 1: in the first round that maybe Trubisky. Trubisky he put
Speaker 1: up at h he put up at three to Chicago.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Tisky's going first round. By the way,
Speaker 1: he's one of the first I've seen do this. He
Speaker 1: ain't lying. I mean, there's guys, I'm getting a lot
Speaker 1: of those calls about Trubisky and business not falling out
Speaker 1: of top time. Yeah, I agree, and just don't not
Speaker 1: number one, just please No. I there's a team and
Speaker 1: that I reached out to in the NFC North. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just got done with their draft meetings. The scout
Speaker 1: told me that everyone in that room was convinced that
Speaker 1: the Bears are taking Trubiscuit three, or they're taking a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They think it's Trubisky. I think you're right. You mocked
Speaker 1: Trubisky there. I think you're absolutely right about because I'm
Speaker 1: talking to guys in the same same division, but I'm
Speaker 1: also talking some guys out west, right, you know, And
Speaker 1: I was trying to get ahold of some guys that's
Speaker 1: scouting them actually in North Carolina. That's what my next mission.
Speaker 1: But Zack Cunningham though, real quick though, Uh, I mean
Speaker 1: names that are in the first round that maybe might
Speaker 1: be a surprise or not necessarily surprised. But I mean
Speaker 1: the four quarterbacks. Um, and we've got a Dory Jackson,
Speaker 1: h Jared Davis, the Florida linebacker. I think he's a
Speaker 1: first round player. Tias Bowser from Houston. I think he's
Speaker 1: going up the boards. Yeah you you expect to hear
Speaker 1: Bowser and Um, who'd you just say? I'm an idiot?
Speaker 1: Jared Davis, Dory Jackson, door and Dory Jackson is a
Speaker 1: guy that I think is like in range for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at sixty not twenty year See, I mean what
Speaker 1: if he was I'd ever thought he would get to
Speaker 1: sixty because I'm thinking, okay, is he better than what
Speaker 1: people like him? Better than Tabor Tabor forty three? This
Speaker 1: guy was qualified for the Olympics. I mean, he's an
Speaker 1: elite athlete. He won the Jim Thorpe Award. Should enough.
Speaker 1: But he did told me the game he got bullied
Speaker 1: in though, Dane. He told me to watch that guy
Speaker 1: the Utah game that you just kind of if you're
Speaker 1: a Dorry Jackson past that game. Yeah. And and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. Watch the Penn State game godwin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well Penn State, Yeah, that's a big man running. Watched
Speaker 1: the Washington in game. Yes, he had two picks that game,
Speaker 1: but John Ross shredded him. He several times. He doesn't
Speaker 1: like me as being like a dominant guy, which is
Speaker 1: what I want. And get ready when I say tonight
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about him and maybe like everybody be like,
Speaker 1: well remember what we just said. I have a second
Speaker 1: third round grade on him. Yeah, but I do think
Speaker 1: he's there's a very good chance, i'd say better than
Speaker 1: he goes first round with that, with that athleticism and
Speaker 1: so really, besides Dori Jackson might be the only surprise
Speaker 1: Jared Davis by that. Well, I know you probably don't
Speaker 1: because you don't like him, But I mean that sounds
Speaker 1: like Obi to me too. Obi. I have him at
Speaker 1: nineteen in this mock. Ah a third round two? Three
Speaker 1: on your board? Right or three? He said, yeah, see
Speaker 1: three on my board. I don't like it. See That's
Speaker 1: that's where I this. This is the same anybody gives
Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham a little love, please, Besides me, I like him.
Speaker 1: I like him a lot, all right. The fact that
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up in Washington here on your deal
Speaker 1: is not good in my in my eyes, if you're
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan and Zach Cunningham at forty nine ends
Speaker 1: up in Washington, that's bad. Plus they get Gary on
Speaker 1: Conley in the first round in this mom Ah, that's okay,
Speaker 1: got London Fletcher written all over him, just making it's
Speaker 1: It's funny how itackles a game in the fall. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm driving the bus on some of these
Speaker 1: guys and then when it comes to draft season people
Speaker 1: take over. Yeah, because they just like him a little
Speaker 1: more than I do. Like I love Zach Cunningham. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I just he's not the top or he said he's
Speaker 1: a top five player on your board, or yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got him up there. Yeah. So I mean when my
Speaker 1: top fifty comes out, and hey, you know I do
Speaker 1: because what I want to do I just grade the tape.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't get to do all the red
Speaker 1: flax stuff. You know, I wish I did. I wish
Speaker 1: I got all the red flag stuff. But Zach Cunningham's
Speaker 1: he's never coming off the field. All right. Here's another
Speaker 1: one that's gonna make thirty visit. Guy Dane reported this
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, Yeah, number fifty to Tampa Bay, one of
Speaker 1: the two offensive players that the Cowboys brought in on
Speaker 1: a thirty visit. That's if you lasts that long. I
Speaker 1: have him going fifty, but he should be I have
Speaker 1: him like twenty six on my board overall. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy should be a late one, early two. If
Speaker 1: he falls to fifty, there's no brain. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you're the Cowboys and you're there at sixty and
Speaker 1: you're going, man, maybe somebody will get to us, Maybe
Speaker 1: one of these guys will get to us, And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're looking at Samuel and you might
Speaker 1: have you had a late one or early or a
Speaker 1: two on him. Then all of a sudden, it's you know,
Speaker 1: although I hear, I mean, there's I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess you would call it smoke. I hear people keep
Speaker 1: talking about Dalvin Cook going a Tampa if he falls
Speaker 1: that far, which is I mean, who knows? Right, it's
Speaker 1: definitely possible. They brought him in for a workout, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's the big question is, well, these three
Speaker 1: running backs go top twenty. I'll go top twenty. I
Speaker 1: think two definitely will. I think he just comes out
Speaker 1: to Dalvin Cook. Does he go nineteen? You know a
Speaker 1: few other teams that might might be in the running
Speaker 1: for him. I could just as easily see Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: fall to the late one, maybe even out of one
Speaker 1: that combine killed him. What plus you factor in the
Speaker 1: off field shoulder you were talking about two hundred ten
Speaker 1: pounds durability factor. I mean, I still Dalvin Cook's top
Speaker 1: running back. He's my top running back too, But you
Speaker 1: know it's gonna wind up with the Giants just to
Speaker 1: just to kind of go down the board packer in
Speaker 1: this mock. Yeah, well, another one. I think you need
Speaker 1: to worry about it. Fifty five here we're I'm gonna
Speaker 1: finish this thing up the Giants at fifty five. Ray
Speaker 1: Kwon McMillan, linebacker, Ohio State, one of my favorite linebackers,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite physical linebackers. Him and Cuttingham. Love
Speaker 1: these guys Foster Alabama. Okay, i'd worry about him going
Speaker 1: to the Giants. How about if you're a Cowboy fan,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about right tackle in the second round, Taylor Moten,
Speaker 1: that had happened right in front you at fifty eight seat?
Speaker 1: Can you throwing your pen? You maybe you're thinking about
Speaker 1: a right tackle? Probably not because of who the Cowboys
Speaker 1: getting this scenario. Yeah, I mean, I spoiler, I know
Speaker 1: I know who Dan has us take Terrell Basham Basham,
Speaker 1: which I mean, yeah, Taylor Mohen is a good player,
Speaker 1: and I'd be down to bolster tackle death. But if
Speaker 1: you give me Terrell Basham, I'll be okay. And in
Speaker 1: this scenario came down to two players. Yeah, Basham and
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams safety from Utah still on the board. All right,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this that I also think, if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, did I miss something here? If I
Speaker 1: went through it right in red and right, you have
Speaker 1: Tankersley on the board still right, have him going to
Speaker 1: pick after sixty one? Okay, tankers least on the board.
Speaker 1: He's got what on the board too? What? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: he's going first round? Yeah? Oh you had him on
Speaker 1: your thing first round. Yeah, I haven't going to Detroit. Okay,
Speaker 1: my bad. He would have been to pick at twenty
Speaker 1: eight if you're still there, okay, I would have been wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's right. Detroit was twenty one. My bad, dad,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. That's right, okay. But you had
Speaker 1: Tankersley up and he had Marcus Williams up. Yeah. Still,
Speaker 1: those are probably the top two player. I mean, Derek
Speaker 1: Rivers was still there tankrously, but yeah, that had him
Speaker 1: going bash him to pass Rusher who. Actually, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you led the show off with this because you posted
Speaker 1: this on Tuesday, I think. Yeah, And the first thing
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'm sorry about that. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: my bad. I my ideal guy, the guy that I
Speaker 1: would want the most if all things are equal. As
Speaker 1: Kevin King, I think cornerback all things considered as a
Speaker 1: big need right now and in the future. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But the way that this all works out, I really
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are better suited getting their pass rusher
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, and there's a better chance you'll find
Speaker 1: a dB you really like at sixty. Like, I'd rather
Speaker 1: have Tack at twenty eight than bash him at six. Okay,
Speaker 1: McKinley and Tankersley back to back. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about that? I like that better than Adore and bash him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree there, I'd rather have McKinley and tankerously that
Speaker 1: duo rather than Jackson. I mean anything that includes a
Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson the first round. I'm gonna veto how about Tabor?
Speaker 1: How about Tabor? How about Tabor at twenty eight and Bashem?
Speaker 1: I'd be fine with that, I'd be a yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: be okay with it. But I think i'd prefer the
Speaker 1: Tankersley and McKinley scenario better. How okay, And you think
Speaker 1: it's a fifty fifty shot he goes first round? Is
Speaker 1: it possible that a door Jackson would be there at sixty.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'd be shocked. Yeah, see that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't think so either. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like give me T J. Watt at twenty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Tankersley or a safety Marcus Williams. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean about this though, he how about he's got he's
Speaker 1: got Quincy Wilson going to the Kansas City at fifty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And do you feel all right? How about Watt and Wilson.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like Wilson, but I guess I
Speaker 1: mean at that point, in a late second, it's not
Speaker 1: a reach, you know. I mean that's he probably doesn't
Speaker 1: last that long. There's a few NFL teams that like
Speaker 1: him a lot more than we do, so there's a
Speaker 1: good chance he's not on the board. But I mean
Speaker 1: the top corners that did not make this two round
Speaker 1: mock Jordan Lewis from Michigan. Yeah, I think he's a
Speaker 1: second round player. I would take him all day. He's
Speaker 1: got some issues right now, that just kind of cut
Speaker 1: them out right with her spoon from Colorado player we
Speaker 1: both liked, so I think he could be in the
Speaker 1: mix there um and then of course you get your
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones, who probably more of a third round player.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the second you get wiped out.
Speaker 1: I don't I'd be surprised that they went that direction
Speaker 1: two years on a row with a basically a red
Speaker 1: shirt year at the position. But in in in ten seconds,
Speaker 1: tell me what we just learned about going through this.
Speaker 1: It's a stack draft, and you know out there the
Speaker 1: twenty five to forty five range, you feel good about
Speaker 1: who you're going to get. So that's why the tradeback
Speaker 1: option we've talked about it. Love that option. Give me
Speaker 1: no pick at twenty eight and give me pick thirty three,
Speaker 1: pick forty wins Cleveland's next pick. After thirty two, thirty three,
Speaker 1: fifty two, and sixty you also have sixty five first
Speaker 1: pick in the third. I mean, yeah, give me, just
Speaker 1: give me picks. And we need we need quarterbacks. There
Speaker 1: need the quarterbacks. This is a mail back question today
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys to to to to potentially, and we
Speaker 1: said the same thing. Yeah, quarterback and offensive tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: would be the two positions. Ram Checker Bowls with the
Speaker 1: stereo get to that point there you go. Yeah, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Trubisky's going top ten. I feel good about that.
Speaker 1: And who knows about the Shaun Watson, Kaiser and Mahomes
Speaker 1: are kind of the wild cars in that late one area.
Speaker 1: Teams like him enough to get that your option, make there,
Speaker 1: make sure they secure that quarterback. Maybe. I think Dallas,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be fun we get two weeks
Speaker 1: from tonight, in the end of that draft or towards
Speaker 1: when we get down to Dallas's pick. Yeah, not going
Speaker 1: to be surprised if we don't pick on Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, thank you guys, good good, good sufdant, thanks
Speaker 1: for the draft. That's a fascinating stuff. I totally agree
Speaker 1: with you. Man. There's guys. I mean, a guy want
Speaker 1: at twenty eight is sitting there potentially at forty two
Speaker 1: guys sitting there at thirty seven with McKinley. So tells
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Speaker 1: good work in there, and I know everyone contributed. I
Speaker 1: was doing some of the comps for that. Yeah. That's
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Speaker 1: compare a player to another player, I think does that.
Speaker 1: I think I think that when you start talking about guys,
Speaker 1: and for example, you use the Justin Tuck reference Taco
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Speaker 1: All Right, we kind of touched on this in the
Speaker 1: first segment, but I want to check in with y'all. Um.
Speaker 1: We really haven't talked a lot about Sidney Jones since
Speaker 1: he tours Achilles. John wants to know you kind of.
Speaker 1: I think you said the third round grade, but where
Speaker 1: do you see him going in this draft? Now? He's
Speaker 1: not an option for the Cowboys in the first two rounds. No,
Speaker 1: they had the red shirt year last year on a player, right.
Speaker 1: I don't think this. He could be optimistic about, you know,
Speaker 1: coming back and playing and all that. But if you
Speaker 1: take him, you're clearly looking at him for two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen. Right, So, UH, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: if I had to take a guy, if we could have,
Speaker 1: if we could have reversed it. If this year was
Speaker 1: last year, I would have taken him in the second round.
Speaker 1: If you're if I knew I was going to red
Speaker 1: shirt him again him for my twenty seventeen season, as
Speaker 1: opposed to the injury that Jalen Smith suffered, right, so, right,
Speaker 1: because different confidence. I feel confident he's going to come
Speaker 1: back and play, and that's why he has a good
Speaker 1: chance to go into second You know, if a team's
Speaker 1: in that position where they feel comfortable red shirting a
Speaker 1: player for a year, kind of stashing him and then
Speaker 1: getting him next year as a first round corner, you
Speaker 1: get next year level two first round picks basically, So
Speaker 1: it would not be a surprise if he ends up
Speaker 1: going in the second somewhere, not to this team, I
Speaker 1: don't think. But I don't I see him dropping two rounds.
Speaker 1: I think third round. That's when you start talking having
Speaker 1: that conversation about him. We always had that injury. When
Speaker 1: I was in draft rooms, the fourth round was known
Speaker 1: as the criminal round and the injured round. Yeah, problem round, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I don't I think he's
Speaker 1: going to be in the third round. I agree with
Speaker 1: Dane on that Dane's two round mock had Tabor going
Speaker 1: in the mid forties, actually had him going to the Yeah,
Speaker 1: going to Philly at forty three. John wants to know
Speaker 1: if there's any chance he falls all the way to sixty.
Speaker 1: I don't see why not. I mean, teams are scared
Speaker 1: off by It's it's not just a speed, like I've
Speaker 1: said before, it's the inner brashness. It's just it's not
Speaker 1: going to be for everybody. He's got first round ability?
Speaker 1: Does he on that board when you watch the tape?
Speaker 1: I think so? But I mean, all things considered, you
Speaker 1: just you know, two years ago we're talking at this time,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about Randy Gregory in the late second,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, just you never know how some
Speaker 1: of these issues will be looked at by teams. Um So,
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a huge surprise, somewhat
Speaker 1: of a you know, kind of a little you know,
Speaker 1: get catch your eye. If he is still on the
Speaker 1: board in the in the mid fifties, then you start thinking,
Speaker 1: oh wow, how would you feel about a draft if
Speaker 1: you took McKinley and Tabor the Cowboys. Let me ask
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, say they take uh, Kevin
Speaker 1: King in the first round. Yeah, and Tabor's still there
Speaker 1: at sixty. Yep. Oh do you double up? Yes, Dane.
Speaker 1: Awesome segue because Keaton wants to know. Is there a
Speaker 1: better chance of taking back to back corners or back
Speaker 1: to back edge rushers. Corners gotta be yeah, I mean think,
Speaker 1: but I think the safety positions something they have to
Speaker 1: think about the two. But will there be more talented
Speaker 1: corners left than safeties? I think it might be a
Speaker 1: scenario where what I just mentioned, where a Tabor, maybe
Speaker 1: a player they consider at twenty eight, is still there
Speaker 1: for them at sixty and got a first round grade
Speaker 1: and he comes too valuable to pass up at that point.
Speaker 1: I would do a backflip if they drafted Kevin King
Speaker 1: and Jayalen Tabor. I mean, you just I mean I
Speaker 1: can't do a backflip, but I would try. I hope
Speaker 1: it happens. I want to see it. I know I
Speaker 1: do it. I'll do it in the studio, I'll do
Speaker 1: it on the air. Does that immediately fix their problems
Speaker 1: at corner? We're still talking about rookies, guys that have
Speaker 1: never taken a snap. Fix No, I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: feel better absolutely right. I mean that gives you three
Speaker 1: You can't say that they're definitely going to pan out,
Speaker 1: but it gives you three talented guys who are under
Speaker 1: contract for the foreseeable future on top of what you
Speaker 1: have in Scandrick and Nolan Carroll. Right, are you gonna
Speaker 1: this is gonna be funny? Are you gonna bash them?
Speaker 1: It's up to They got to think out of your book.
Speaker 1: It's good. Are you going to bash them though, if
Speaker 1: Basham is on the board there at sixty and they
Speaker 1: take Tabor assuming King is their first round pick, yes, no,
Speaker 1: I won't bash them because I and I know the past.
Speaker 1: I'm a broken record. I know the pass rush needs help,
Speaker 1: but the pass rush is not as drastically understaffed as
Speaker 1: the secondary is in my opinion. So you're okay going
Speaker 1: back to back. Hey, David Irving just signed his exclusive
Speaker 1: rights tender. They feel good about him. You still you
Speaker 1: have DeMarcus Lawrence in a contractor year. You've got defensive
Speaker 1: tackles that you feel good about, like you've got you
Speaker 1: got Benson Mayowa, who they liked. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: sell anybody that these are great players, but they're they're
Speaker 1: guys that are there who can for once sacked more
Speaker 1: than the Giants, right, yeah, yea in the league. It
Speaker 1: just depends, I think on how how close are they.
Speaker 1: If these guys are close, like they have Tabor and Basham,
Speaker 1: you know, relatively close, then I think you go to
Speaker 1: the pass rusher. Not only did you address corner already,
Speaker 1: but I could argue that pass rush is a more
Speaker 1: important position just in general. And so if they're close,
Speaker 1: I think you should go with the pass rush. Now
Speaker 1: if you have you know, a significant not significant, but
Speaker 1: just a clearly better grade on Tabor compared to a
Speaker 1: bash them or your next next best pass rusher didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: by all means double up. I like what I've seen
Speaker 1: on Tabor a lot more than bash them. Just their tape,
Speaker 1: just their tape, not anything else, um which and real quickly.
Speaker 1: But that I ran into that problem when we did
Speaker 1: our seventh round mock. Yeah, between you got caught not
Speaker 1: having a safety but didn't between pass rush, corner and safety.
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't love the odds that all three
Speaker 1: get adequately addressed with a premium pick, just the way
Speaker 1: that it falls that way, you know, And that yeah,
Speaker 1: I wound up just you're looking at it. You're trying
Speaker 1: to determine like how the volume the value is going
Speaker 1: to fall, and all of a sudden, you haven't drafted
Speaker 1: a safety and it's like the sixth round, and obviously
Speaker 1: you probably want to. But easier said than sometimes when
Speaker 1: I do these mock drafts, I hear from you know,
Speaker 1: Joe fan who says, well, their top needs or this, this, this,
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way. You know, your first rounds, ye,
Speaker 1: first rounds are top needs, second round, next need. It
Speaker 1: just does it. It rarely, if ever, happens like that.
Speaker 1: Ran into Stephen Jones coming up to the stairs after
Speaker 1: lunch yesterday, and he just reiterated what we believed all along,
Speaker 1: that the positions that the Cowboys need players are all
Speaker 1: strong positions. It's true, Corners, the defensive ends, the safeties,
Speaker 1: all positions that they can use. He feels he felt,
Speaker 1: I mean, the smile on his face told me the
Speaker 1: story that he feels like at twenty eight there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a guy that they're gonna be excited about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there'll be a guy they're excited about at thirty
Speaker 1: four or two. They can add another pack maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see if they can work the phones. Well, we'll get
Speaker 1: on the phone and work that out. James wants to
Speaker 1: James wants y'all to give him a Day three guy
Speaker 1: that like you're standing on the tip like he's there.
Speaker 1: Let's I mean starting in the fourth round, but even
Speaker 1: going all the way through, but you're just like pounding
Speaker 1: your chest like this. We gotta get him. Get this guy.
Speaker 1: You got a day You got a Day three guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know what position we want to talk about,
Speaker 1: because I you know, like a past rushing Joe Mathis
Speaker 1: from Washington could be one of those guys. I Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got Joe Matthis in the second round. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think with the injury, with his immature past, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna good chance he slips to Day three. I
Speaker 1: think Joe Matthis in the fourth is one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I mocked pump free. Yeah, you're not excited about that one,
Speaker 1: are you? Why not? He's one hundred and seventy five pounds,
Speaker 1: kind of can do a little bit of everything. Sixty
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, I believe something like that, six thousand yards.
Speaker 1: Special teams ability, Yeah, does he have special teams ability?
Speaker 1: I watched I watched him at this I watched him
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl catch punts. Look pretty comfortable doing it.
Speaker 1: I know, small sample size though, that's the only thing
Speaker 1: that worries me. There's such a hater Dane. Now we're
Speaker 1: talking about fourth round here. Yeah, he's saw about fourth round.
Speaker 1: That's way too rich for me. I would take. I've
Speaker 1: a draftable grade on him. Um, I see what about
Speaker 1: your kid from Ohio, the linebacker Brown? Is that too rich? No?
Speaker 1: I think we both agree that would be. We talked
Speaker 1: about him, did we last week? As this team doesn't
Speaker 1: need linebacker. I'm just saying you wanted somebody else stand
Speaker 1: up on the table four, I'll stand up for him,
Speaker 1: all right? Another another fourth round linebacker from the Midwest.
Speaker 1: Where have we heard that before? Yeah? I got a
Speaker 1: couple of receivers that I really like in the fourth
Speaker 1: Mac Holiday or Mac Hollins. I'm sorry, Matt Collins. Mac
Speaker 1: Collins from North Carolina tell you what I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I watched him last night, big fan, Now,
Speaker 1: did you watch those routes? He thought? Oh he's ros heck,
Speaker 1: But vertically what he can give you and then he
Speaker 1: can find the ball a couple of times when the
Speaker 1: tape I was watching special teams demon him in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. Yeah, fourth round. He's a four year captain
Speaker 1: on special teams. You just don't, Okay, but four you're
Speaker 1: gonna draft him in the fourth draft him in the
Speaker 1: fourth round just on special teams. No. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to grow as a receiver. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: have that size, you have that speed. What he did vertically,
Speaker 1: I think that he's going to grow into it. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought he struggled running round to the Dane he did.
Speaker 1: Oh he's raw. He is raw, but he looks like
Speaker 1: he's all over the play with his arms and it's
Speaker 1: kind of there's no question, like he's running against the
Speaker 1: wind all the time. Kenny Galladay for Northern Illinois. He's
Speaker 1: another one. I like them four yea. No, how about
Speaker 1: how about Jamal Williams from BYU like that? I like
Speaker 1: that betteran pum free um. I think the senior Bowl
Speaker 1: guy right, yeah, you know, you twisted my arm and
Speaker 1: tell me who's the Jordan Howard of this draft. I
Speaker 1: would point to him. Jamal Jamal Williams is a hell
Speaker 1: of a football player from b YU running back. I
Speaker 1: was I was asking people about him. They're like, got,
Speaker 1: you're a little late on him. Brought us Sorry, Scout's
Speaker 1: just like to say that though, like, oh they knew
Speaker 1: that I'm just a jack You give him like a
Speaker 1: guy nobody's ever heard of from like Kentucky, Western State,
Speaker 1: and they're like you like you those safeties? He is safeties?
Speaker 1: Do anything for you? Where do you have Jackson at
Speaker 1: Jackson at fourth? Fifth? Um? Yeah? What about Woods? I
Speaker 1: have a third fourth on him? Davior Woods? Yeah, can't
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta give people some context here. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: well By Hill from Michigan. Did you like him? I
Speaker 1: had him in the fourth? Yeah, I get him three
Speaker 1: or four? I like, yeah, quite a bad. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like better peppers. You're like, I'm better in peppers.
Speaker 1: Where you have peppers on the board? Fourth round? Wow,
Speaker 1: that's another. I don't know where to play him. That's
Speaker 1: a first round guy that I'm serious. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of where the good spot is to play him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be wrong. I'm okay, I'm big guy. I'll admitted
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Jacob wants to know what's
Speaker 1: more likely at twenty eight Adore Jackson, where can we
Speaker 1: go over this? Or Ties Bowser? He was interested in
Speaker 1: Tias Bowser. Bowser was here, Bowser visited. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was an official thirty, but he took a
Speaker 1: photo in an AT and T stadium. Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: think that to me, I think there's some interest in
Speaker 1: him as an edge rusher, but I and I think
Speaker 1: it's Marinelli driven and but I don't think they would
Speaker 1: take him at twenty eight. I tend to agree he's scary,
Speaker 1: like he's not. I'm not saying don't let him drop,
Speaker 1: let him rush. Whatever you do, let him rush. Don't
Speaker 1: be a drop linebacker guy. He reminds me of what
Speaker 1: I and I don't mean like off field, but he
Speaker 1: reminds me of how I felt about Randy Gregory in
Speaker 1: the sense that like, I don't think this scheme is
Speaker 1: the one that he's meant to play in. I think
Speaker 1: ideally in a three to four yea in a four
Speaker 1: to three, he might be better as a stand up
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker. Yeah, which you don't. I'm not drafting
Speaker 1: that at twenty eight because he's kind of like if
Speaker 1: you don't get his son Reddick early, he might be
Speaker 1: that guy. The next guy. Yeah, you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like Christian McCaffrey and Chritis, Samuel A Son Reddick,
Speaker 1: you don't get him early. Tis Balser might be your
Speaker 1: I think the best next stand up. This gonna sound terrible,
Speaker 1: not terrible, but maybe people like it. What if you
Speaker 1: talk about if you talk about Reddick and the next
Speaker 1: guy that could stand up and rush as a linebacker,
Speaker 1: I'd sure look at what for the Cowboys? But you're yeah,
Speaker 1: but what would primarily play in for you? Yeah, he'd
Speaker 1: play in. But I'm saying if you were looking for
Speaker 1: a guy, the guy that's most productive standing up rush
Speaker 1: and the next guy to me is what. Oh, I
Speaker 1: definitely agree I Bowser. I just use everybody there confuse
Speaker 1: a little a little bit, but that's okay. I just
Speaker 1: the tweeters. These tweeter guys scare me. Bowser's number sixty
Speaker 1: six on my board overall. Um, and that's going to
Speaker 1: be a lot lower than he goes. But I have
Speaker 1: questions about the football awareness. Um. Oh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think as a rookie, he's a nickel rusher, he's
Speaker 1: a sub package guy. He's not an every down player.
Speaker 1: He watched the Louisville film though. Oh he can. He's
Speaker 1: got juice, he can create problem. He's six two two
Speaker 1: fifty and he's a four to sixth athlete one five split.
Speaker 1: It's there number. What Oh I'm thinking why? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Bowser. I mean I have, like I said at
Speaker 1: sixty six overall, Okay, I'm sorry. I have just a
Speaker 1: confidence that Watt can play end on a regular basis, like, oh,
Speaker 1: they got him listed as an end here, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be on their board as a defensive six to four
Speaker 1: and a half way is I mean he's he's bigger.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's I'm not gonna put you
Speaker 1: on the spot But did you have a comparison for
Speaker 1: Bowser or did you you just had top guys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Okay, I didn't have one for him. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't mean to put you on the spotlight.
Speaker 1: I hate to do that because I well you did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my bed should do it the break Brian, Hello, Yes,
Speaker 1: well he spells his with an eye. We talked about
Speaker 1: talked about this last week with the talk of Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey going to Phlipadelphia. But what player would you least
Speaker 1: want to see an NFC East rival draft. Now we'll
Speaker 1: limit it to the first round because it's just easier
Speaker 1: that way. This is easy for me McCaffrey to Philly specifically,
Speaker 1: or any of them, well, to Philly specifically, because that's
Speaker 1: where I think it most likelihood, highest likelihood of happening.
Speaker 1: But that'd scare the heck out of me. I find
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You're worry about one of those wide receivers
Speaker 1: sliding into Philly. Davis Williams Ross one of those guys.
Speaker 1: I want to say scare me, But obviously William Williams
Speaker 1: would bug me out a little bit. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think he's really good. Yeah, I'm not sure they do
Speaker 1: that though with I mean they just signed Elshan Jeffrey
Speaker 1: and Tory Smith and those are one year deal. They're
Speaker 1: basically one year deals. I get it, But you're really
Speaker 1: gonna go with another I mean they still have Oh,
Speaker 1: they'll bust some receivers there, they will bust George Matthews,
Speaker 1: they will bust. Yeah, but are you still gonna take
Speaker 1: another receiver when you have I understand you want to
Speaker 1: help out sure young quarterback, and that's why wide receivers
Speaker 1: definitely possibility, but I think it's a much higher possibility.
Speaker 1: And second or third round, how about one of these
Speaker 1: tight ends? How about like Howard r and Joku going
Speaker 1: and the Giants and Joku to the Giants scares the Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good one. I don't like that one
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um. I told you McMillan playing to me,
Speaker 1: and I know this is there were a couple of
Speaker 1: linebackers you had in the in the second round in
Speaker 1: that trap to the Giants. What about my first round
Speaker 1: pick for the Giants, Mahomes? How would you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I like Mahomes so way. It's scary if you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: seem but you're telling me that Mahomes is not going
Speaker 1: to play for a year or that's why? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean I think the future, Yeah, I like. But hopefully
Speaker 1: i'll be lik in Costa Rica. Yeah, you know, retired
Speaker 1: when that happened, and Brian's gonna take me with him.
Speaker 1: I won't have to worry about this. Yeah, three years
Speaker 1: from somebody to edit my work in Costa Rica our
Speaker 1: bar newsletter. You can come down to visit this without
Speaker 1: the draft parted down the Yeah, exactly, can't you come
Speaker 1: on down exactly. But yeah, I I you know what,
Speaker 1: I would worry but as Foster, could Foster end up
Speaker 1: in one of these places? I think so? Yeah, Reuben Foster? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, see that's that's another one. Billy specifically, yeah, Washington, Yeah,
Speaker 1: seventeen seventeen. He he hurts people, that Foster. The thing
Speaker 1: is is why he's falling as he also hurts himself. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really question whether that style can hold up for
Speaker 1: sixteen games. I mean, he's just he's a violent guy.
Speaker 1: And that's why you love I ask you this. She
Speaker 1: worry about how about this? Since she was talking about
Speaker 1: sliders and I know we'll get on here. That's fine
Speaker 1: because we got to get to tell me more. Worried
Speaker 1: about Cook going to one of these teams? Yeah, and too,
Speaker 1: okause you talked about McCaffrey at fourteen, but could it
Speaker 1: be Cook at fourteen? Could it be at twenty three?
Speaker 1: Could it be going to the Giants? Do you think?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that what's his name, fat Rob
Speaker 1: caught on in Washington last year, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that would stop him from drafting Calvin Cook. I shouldn't. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think definitely I think he's in play as well
Speaker 1: for these teams, these NFC's teams. Oh, thank you, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: one more? Are you good? Um? Okay, what do you
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Speaker 1: I always like this. Tell me more, guys, Tell me
Speaker 1: more about Georgia receiver Isaiah McKenzie. I like him speedy, speedy,
Speaker 1: really speedy, really speedy on your size, yeah, five seven
Speaker 1: by five, and you watch him at Georgia. A lot
Speaker 1: of jet sweeps and it's how they, you know, get
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. They do. I think he's
Speaker 1: a he's kind of the ideal bottom of the roster receiver, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because he gonna help you on special teams
Speaker 1: as a return man and then as a fourth or
Speaker 1: fifth receiver. Is you know, he can be a home
Speaker 1: run threat at times. Absolutely. I worry about the fumbles.
Speaker 1: He fumbled a lot. I think he fumbled once every
Speaker 1: like twelve touches or something. On offense. They got a
Speaker 1: guy here that there's just the same and just I'm
Speaker 1: looking I'm looking for a lucky replacement, and you're just
Speaker 1: describing the same guy. Well, they do. And this guy's faster.
Speaker 1: This guy's much faster. You you watch they do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys where ball is in his
Speaker 1: hand and he's four yards up the field before anybody
Speaker 1: ever reacts to him. He's that quick and he's explosive.
Speaker 1: They try and do things with him down the field.
Speaker 1: He's better inside, believe it or not, catching things routes
Speaker 1: inside than he is when they go down the field.
Speaker 1: They've tried to throw, catch and run. They try to
Speaker 1: throw him some stuff where he does fades and things
Speaker 1: like that and downfield red zone that's not his bag.
Speaker 1: And Dane's right, they'll they'll run a reverse and they'll
Speaker 1: flip it to him and let him come the other way.
Speaker 1: Do a lot of misdirection stuff with him though, but
Speaker 1: he is very explosive. This is delightful news because they
Speaker 1: don't need a guy who goes down the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's at the record Georgia record with five punt returns
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Bring him on, three years, six seventh round.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, he's right into the end of the jet.
Speaker 1: It's traits that you know when you get down the end,
Speaker 1: you're looking for trades. He lacks the height, but he
Speaker 1: has the explosiveness. A guy that was reportedly a visit
Speaker 1: tell me more about Colorado's safety, Tedrick Thompson. I liked
Speaker 1: him a lot better when I studied in during the fall.
Speaker 1: I saw him, you know, live, watching Colorado games. Then
Speaker 1: I saw one or two of his tapes in the fall.
Speaker 1: Then I watched him in the spring, and I didn't
Speaker 1: love him as much. I knew he wasn't a great tackler,
Speaker 1: not he wasn't very good and run support. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: in verse the pass he had a lot of production.
Speaker 1: I had over twenty passes defended as a senior. And
Speaker 1: he has some range, has some ball skills, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I didn't like him nearly as
Speaker 1: much as I did as I thought I was. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why you were on this show because you
Speaker 1: exactly described the player and when you watch him on tape,
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised he would be one of those guys
Speaker 1: that I would throw my pin if he was picked,
Speaker 1: you know, because I did not really like the player
Speaker 1: at all, and I didn't think he reacted very quickly.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he I thought he went low as
Speaker 1: a tackler. I didn't think he took very good angles.
Speaker 1: You know when he was going, he'll miss tackles on
Speaker 1: you now. Too much hesitation in his game, you know,
Speaker 1: he hesitates, he doesn't go and get the football. I
Speaker 1: think there's other safeties in this draft, like the kid
Speaker 1: from Louisiana Tech Woods that that is a better player.
Speaker 1: And I was surprised that he visit here. You know,
Speaker 1: I watched the mission game. I thought he misplayed a
Speaker 1: ball there. It doesn't get off blocks well. He didn't
Speaker 1: force the run, well, it doesn't turn well. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things he doesn't do well. And so when
Speaker 1: I saw saw that his name was mentioned as a
Speaker 1: as a thirty visit guy, I was a little surprised
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go back and watch the tape
Speaker 1: and I did, and in danger right, the tape doesn't lie.
Speaker 1: That's what he is. What round you have him? I
Speaker 1: had him in this fifth round. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. I just was kind of putting
Speaker 1: him there, thinking, Okay, I need to go back and
Speaker 1: do this guy. But if he got picked for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I hope he proves me wrong. But he's I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was a great player. I thought they're better.
Speaker 1: Safety's on the board, Ken, if you when you got
Speaker 1: some time, clip these last two minutes out. So when
Speaker 1: Tedrick is interviewed, when, no, when he's our pick, yeah,
Speaker 1: lay this back. Oh no he's see her. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's a visit. I mean he was a visit. He
Speaker 1: pick one thirty five. Yeah, you know, one thirty three.
Speaker 1: If he's the guy, then I then I miswatched the tape,
Speaker 1: and you know, but that's part of it tell me
Speaker 1: more about West Georgia edge rusher Dylan Donahue. He's got
Speaker 1: an interesting backstory. His dad played in the NFL, yeah,
Speaker 1: way back when Atlanta. I believe. Um, I love the bloodlines.
Speaker 1: But this is a guy who got in some trouble,
Speaker 1: who grew up in Montana, gotten a little bit of trouble,
Speaker 1: didn't go to that top school, kind of bounced around
Speaker 1: a little bit, ends up a division to West Georgia.
Speaker 1: And I tell you, the last two years he's been outstanding.
Speaker 1: I think twenty five and a half sacks the last
Speaker 1: two years combined. Uh. Yeah, he played or he tested
Speaker 1: fairly well at the at the combine except for one
Speaker 1: area's arm length. Yeah, I was shocked. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is a big guy with short arms, with tiny arms
Speaker 1: rex arms, and so I think that's that's a big
Speaker 1: reason why he'll slip a little bit on Day three.
Speaker 1: But he's draftable a player later on that you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of take a take a flyer on when
Speaker 1: you watch, when you watch the tape, it's he's clearly
Speaker 1: the best player on the field. I mean, and that's
Speaker 1: in this and you wouldn't you say he's going against
Speaker 1: dentists and lawyer. Yeah, he's going well, he's probably going
Speaker 1: against guys that are I would I would say he's
Speaker 1: going against some farmers and ranchers and guys like that.
Speaker 1: But he is a He's a guy that when you
Speaker 1: watch him play, you talk about relentless and the and
Speaker 1: the way. And I started tweeting about him as kind
Speaker 1: of like a kind of like my who's your pet
Speaker 1: cat guy? He was like my initially my pet cat guy.
Speaker 1: And and then and then what happens, people on Twitter
Speaker 1: picked it up, and then the school picked it up,
Speaker 1: so then I was now involved. Oh yeah, Brian Noseboy's
Speaker 1: talking about But I saw a guy that had tremendous
Speaker 1: passion for the game and he never stops, and the
Speaker 1: playing speed, the initial quickness, all that stuff, and he
Speaker 1: is gonna win. I mean, these are the games I
Speaker 1: watched him against Kataba Miles and Delta State. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, So, hey, Jerry Rice with the school
Speaker 1: at you know, Mississippi Valley, he's got an okay job
Speaker 1: to NFLPA Collegial p See. I didn't see that. I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think, like somebody, he's gonna be one of
Speaker 1: those guys were watching preseason games and it's to be
Speaker 1: late in the game and he's gonna come up with
Speaker 1: a sack and everybody's gonna go, oh, what about this guy?
Speaker 1: What about Wow? Look at this gay. Maybe he'll have
Speaker 1: two or three sacks or two and a half sacks
Speaker 1: in the preseason and you're thinking, Wow, where did this
Speaker 1: guy come from? I agree with the last few words
Speaker 1: of my report on him. He competes with a fire
Speaker 1: in his belly and the skill set to push for
Speaker 1: a backup. Yeah. He's disruptive and competitive and that's that's
Speaker 1: the best best thing. I mean, he doesn't looking for
Speaker 1: in day three. He and my notes sort of doesn't
Speaker 1: lose the football. He knows where it is. He's got
Speaker 1: the bloodline you're talking about. We're round Yeah, where can
Speaker 1: I get him? I stuck him in the sixth That's
Speaker 1: where I've got him. Sixth round grade, because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm watching the guy in again. If the measurables are
Speaker 1: it's it's six two and a half to forty eight.
Speaker 1: But he will, he's gonna he's gonna be on somebody's team.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the preseason and you're gonna be watching
Speaker 1: games and people are gonna be tweeting at us. You
Speaker 1: guys talked about this guy and he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: sack for the Falcons. Tommy Dimitrov is gonna bring him
Speaker 1: in as a free agent and he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: sack for the Falcons, a couple of them. But you
Speaker 1: know you've heard him first here, all right, I going
Speaker 1: Donahue real real quickly. I got two Brugler specials. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about time we got at time we got. Yeah, Dane,
Speaker 1: tell me more about wake Forest corner. Brad Watson, Uh,
Speaker 1: local guy, right or he's around here's from He's around
Speaker 1: Texas somewhere, believe so maybe it's closer to Austin. I
Speaker 1: can't remember, but uh, he kind of you know, he
Speaker 1: was under Kevin Johns. Remember Kevin Johnson now the Texan
Speaker 1: stiff rounder. He was under Kevin Johnson's wing. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then he kind of took over as the top corner
Speaker 1: when Kevin Johnson left Round Rock. Okay, Yeah, yeah, Austin
Speaker 1: area there go. Uh And he had a really good
Speaker 1: junior year and then I kind of put him on
Speaker 1: the NFL map and the senior year Okay. He just
Speaker 1: doesn't have that distinguishing trait that you kind of you
Speaker 1: point to. You know, he's not the biggest guy, not
Speaker 1: the fastest guy. Yeah. Uh. You know the ball skills
Speaker 1: where I think were very good. Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't see uh in this loaded corner class. I
Speaker 1: don't see a distinguishing trait with him that's going to
Speaker 1: make me really go. You know, pe a non combined guy.
Speaker 1: He was not invited. I don't believe he was. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so I remember this about this guy, and you watch
Speaker 1: him play, and Dane absolutely is right about him. And
Speaker 1: you see him play and one of the things he
Speaker 1: was able to do when he had to tackle, I
Speaker 1: thought I thought he did that. I thought he was
Speaker 1: a wrap up tackling guy. The problem is, you see
Speaker 1: a lot of balls go his direction and he's just
Speaker 1: missing the ball. So he doesn't play with a burst.
Speaker 1: He really doesn't have much quickness and I don't think
Speaker 1: he has really good catchup speed either. But you see
Speaker 1: him try and play off hand. Eddie's in his and
Speaker 1: here we are. I'm I'm praising Tabor, you know, at
Speaker 1: six one. But Tabor's making plays. But you see his
Speaker 1: hand off hand and it's just and the guy makes
Speaker 1: a catch and goes out of bounce. He's that type
Speaker 1: of guy. I didn't see a good I didn't see
Speaker 1: a great finisher, that's the thing. And I think the
Speaker 1: lack of quickness and the lack of a burst hurts
Speaker 1: him in coverage when he's trying to close on the football,
Speaker 1: but he will tackle. His junior year really put him
Speaker 1: on the map. He had eighteen passes defendant and as
Speaker 1: a senior it declined. It was like eight. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I mean, big drop off there. I senior, you're kind
Speaker 1: of disappointed and probably not gonna get him Dross. I
Speaker 1: didn't know about the eighteen breakups, but but I know
Speaker 1: I know the fact that when you watch him today,
Speaker 1: I mean I was just like, oh man, he's there.
Speaker 1: He missed it. You know that that was a lot
Speaker 1: of his game, a lot of his game really quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me more about Louisiana Lafayette running back Elijah McGuire.
Speaker 1: Like him, He's that's what I want to hear. He's
Speaker 1: want to hear a good review. He's kind of like
Speaker 1: the Dixon of this draft to me. He's got a
Speaker 1: similar skill set Louisiana kids, Yeah, Louisiana Tech. But his
Speaker 1: ability to catch them all out the backfield. I think
Speaker 1: that's his best trade. It is his best trade. I agree, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the problem he has real quick. If I could go ahead,
Speaker 1: I don't think he could play sideways, and they play
Speaker 1: him sideways. And I mean, if you remember, if you
Speaker 1: listen to talk about DeMarco Murray, it shot gun in
Speaker 1: hand and play sideways. I don't think that's his game.
Speaker 1: I think he's a go downhill guy. I think it's
Speaker 1: like we talked about the Louisiana Tech kid that's go
Speaker 1: down hill, make people be physical. But his best trade
Speaker 1: is catching the football. He just got a great feel
Speaker 1: for how to work himself open, run a route, catch
Speaker 1: a ball, and then go up the field. One hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty nine catches over his career, the schools all
Speaker 1: time leader in all purpose yards. I mean he is
Speaker 1: an offensive weapon for him, he was the last four years.
Speaker 1: So I think he is a guy you can keep
Speaker 1: on the field for you know, third downs. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he can help you with Again, the best thing he
Speaker 1: does is catching the ball out of the backfield. That body,
Speaker 1: control of the hands, It reminds me a lot of
Speaker 1: kennethics and then you can get him later in the
Speaker 1: draft this year. Yeah, I better think you got don't
Speaker 1: play him sideways, right, let him go downhill. Sounds like
Speaker 1: a perfect compliment for what they got here. Well, i'll
Speaker 1: tell you what though, he's got that ability because the
Speaker 1: body type looks good too. I mean his body. Mean
Speaker 1: he's standing up there, I mean he's But I just
Speaker 1: don't see a guy that's a great creator unless he
Speaker 1: gets the ball in his hands receiving its fifth sixth round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a six seventh on him just because it's
Speaker 1: running back classes ridiculous. But I think anywhere on day
Speaker 1: three kind of feel comfortable with him. The trait you
Speaker 1: would you would trade, you would take him off the
Speaker 1: board on or take not take him up, but draft
Speaker 1: him on. Is the receiving ability. Yeah, that's size and receiving.
Speaker 1: That's what distinguishes him from other anybody else. That's right.
Speaker 1: One last thing on him. He was the offensive MVP
Speaker 1: at the East West Shrine Game. Received a late invite
Speaker 1: for the Senior Bowl. But client, yeah, I like him,
Speaker 1: get him that. I think we got three guys on
Speaker 1: the list that bring bring them on board. McCay. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're looking for late. When you're looking for these names
Speaker 1: late late, look for traits. Look for traits. That's what
Speaker 1: we'll tell you when the guys that get drafted. Okay,
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