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Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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Speaker 1: me your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the home Bunker. Oh, folks,

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Speaker 1: there are just more reports, more reports on top of

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Speaker 1: reports that come out to tell us the lengths that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the Trump attorneys, the Trump sycophants, the bought

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Speaker 1: and sold members of Congress were planning to go to

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Speaker 1: in order to hold onto power. Talking Points Memos has

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Speaker 1: in depth reporting this week on all of the ways

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Speaker 1: that Kenneth chesbro, John Eastman, and the other Trump attorneys

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Speaker 1: were concocting their plan to have January six not just

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Speaker 1: be a day, but weeks in order to stop Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden from becoming president and stop the peaceful transfer of

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Speaker 1: power that we've had in this country up until January sixth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I'm so fucking tired. I got to

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Speaker 1: tell you of all of these reports, not because they're

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Speaker 1: not necessary, but because Donald Trump should be in prison

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Speaker 1: and should have been in prison, and all you continue

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Speaker 1: to see as these cases get stalled with their appeals

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Speaker 1: and kicked up to the Supreme Court, for the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court to pretend that like they've never read the Constitution before,

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Speaker 1: and that, oh, well, what is an insurrection? And have

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Speaker 1: never read a dictionary? And then you see right right

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Speaker 1: out in the open, how Donald Trump's attorneys and Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump and all of these members of Congress that voted

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Speaker 1: to decertify the votes of millions of Americans, what their

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Speaker 1: plans were. How is it that Merrick Garland only went

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Speaker 1: to let the State of Georgia do that. I just like,

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Speaker 1: I'm so fucking over everything. And I know, folks like

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Speaker 1: I know, I know that we go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: In some weeks I have more energy and you know,

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Speaker 1: more or fire in me than other weeks. And this

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Speaker 1: today is just not one of those days. Our justice

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Speaker 1: system is such a fucking setup. It's a set up

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Speaker 1: for rich white men to do whatever the fuck they want,

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Speaker 1: and their friends in power pat them on the back

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Speaker 1: and just sweep their shit under the rug. And with

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Speaker 1: the rest of us, those boulders of shit just roll

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Speaker 1: of rope, these fucking people are given the amount of consideration.

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Speaker 1: You know, I found myself the other day I was

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Speaker 1: watching this is to show you how fucking sick and

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Speaker 1: tired I am. I was watching an episode, an old

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Speaker 1: episode of Law and Order, uh, one of those you

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Speaker 1: know stations that marathon them, which is like every station,

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Speaker 1: and I had to turn one of the episodes off

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Speaker 1: because a man, a white man, businessman, was being interviewed

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Speaker 1: by the cops in his office and he clearly did

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Speaker 1: illegal shit by moving you know, this woman's belongings from

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Speaker 1: an apartment that she would later be found to be

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Speaker 1: murdered in, and the cops are just given this dude,

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Speaker 1: like just the benefit of the doubt after benefit of

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Speaker 1: the doubt, after benefit of the doubt, that I got

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Speaker 1: while sure Law and Order is fiction, right, it's really not.

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Speaker 1: You see the way those cops will throw up a

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Speaker 1: has always found to have been the murderer or the rapist.

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Speaker 1: They're given more benefits of the of the doubt than

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Speaker 1: like I even believe exist and that's how our justice

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Speaker 1: system works. Right, life imitating art, are imitating life, like,

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Speaker 1: this is how our justice system works. This is who

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Speaker 1: it was set up for. So how many detailed reports,

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Speaker 1: how many interviews need to be conducted to know, good

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Speaker 1: goddamn well, the amount of harm that these people have

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Speaker 1: placed on our democracy, on our election system, on our agencies.

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Speaker 1: And they were all walking around free. What the fuck

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Speaker 1: isn't Steve Bannon in jail? Right? Roger Stone, who was

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Speaker 1: you know, pardoned by Donald Trump but we know was

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Speaker 1: wrapped up in other shit but not charged again. Oh,

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Speaker 1: because we don't want to seem political. Everything that these

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Speaker 1: And I would argue that more harm has been done

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Speaker 1: hands of foreign adversaries. And I include in that the

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of deaths that were caused via their

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Speaker 1: incredibly important. Whenever I get the opportunity to sit down

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Speaker 1: trying to change their states bit by bit. And so

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Speaker 1: we're continuing with our Queer the Vote series where I

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Speaker 1: had conversations at the Creating Change conference down in New

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Speaker 1: to get as many people out to vote as possible,

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Speaker 1: knowing that they are in some of the most hostile

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Speaker 1: paying attention to all that is wrong, so that they

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Speaker 1: Sarah Parker, one of those brilliant advocates and activists that

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Speaker 1: to be joined as I'm doing these fantastic interviews at

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Speaker 1: the Creating Change conference in New Orleans with Sarah Parker,

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Speaker 1: who is the executive director of Women's Voices of Southwest Florida. Sarah,

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Speaker 1: tell me a bit about Women's Voices, about your organization

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Speaker 1: and the work that you all are doing in Southwest Florida.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. So honestly, her name started because it was me

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Speaker 2: Maanite County which has now abortion clinics, which would have

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Speaker 2: been a six week abortion ban county wide, and we

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Speaker 2: like a lead off, so we are a Fabulis four.

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Speaker 2: We currently are in Tallahassee working and fighting against a

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Speaker 2: lot of legislation that's happening in Florida. As we all know,

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Speaker 2: seeing we're seeing them do the worst every year. They

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Speaker 1: I often stay on this show and just in life,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to shame the devil, right, And I believe

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Speaker 1: that Ron DeSantis is, you know, one of the most

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Speaker 1: soulless people I think that I've ever seen be in

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Speaker 1: done everything from in your state from ban African American history,

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Speaker 1: what it's like just from your perspective living in this state.

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Speaker 1: Because I think that for people who listen to my show,

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Speaker 1: watch the news, they see the headlines right and they're

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Speaker 1: lega I'm safe in my blue bubble. I want people

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Speaker 1: to understand that what is being tested out and being

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Speaker 1: So just give us a picture of what it is

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Speaker 1: like to be queer and be in Florida.

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Speaker 2: So being in Florida is it's a lot. First off, right,

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Speaker 2: we have children that cannot read. I'm gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: being black first because you know that is how I

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Speaker 2: identify as a black woman. We have children that cannot read.

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Speaker 2: So to see them go and ban books and and

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Speaker 2: We're seeing school boards have culture wars. We know we

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Speaker 2: hear a lot about the legislators that are doing the

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Speaker 2: all worked very hard to take down to keep down

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Speaker 2: But they're using the talking point of saving black babies

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Speaker 2: get pregnant. Living in Florida is a lot. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, I love Florida. I'm gonna say that very confidently.

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Speaker 2: That is my place, that is my that is my town.

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Speaker 2: I chose Florida. I was not born there, and I

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Speaker 2: aback because there are things that we know that everyone

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what color. We want all children to know

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Speaker 2: their history, being negative or positive, we need that. We

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Speaker 2: they have no community.

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Speaker 1: M hm m hm. And I'm so glad that you

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Speaker 1: right again, for people who live in blue state, who

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Speaker 1: right And I said, well, if everyone leaves every place

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Speaker 1: that is hard, do you know what I'm saying? Then

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Speaker 1: then then what do we do, right, Like we build

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Speaker 1: your response to that?

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Speaker 2: First off, your privileged, your privilege. I have two kids

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Speaker 2: I am a small nonprofit. I'm an executive director. I

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Speaker 2: do all of my work into good and I don't

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Speaker 2: make a lot right. I can't just up and uphand

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Speaker 2: my children, one of my children. That is that's special

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Speaker 2: That's bizarre to me. And it's also like, just say

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Speaker 2: You know what, that's a really good question. Let's can

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Speaker 1: And with that, Sarah Parker, thank you so much for

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