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Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 1: a Paranormal podcast Network. Now get ready for another episode

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Speaker 1: of Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. The thoughts and

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Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on

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Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You are listening to

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Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. Member. Each week on this program,

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Speaker 1: it is all about trying to help everyone come to

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Speaker 1: an understanding that the paranormal is not so out of

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Speaker 1: the ordinary, and if you've experienced anything out of the ordinary,

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Speaker 1: I welcome you to submit your story, your insights, and

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Speaker 1: your questions and put as much detail as you'd like

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Speaker 1: and submit it through my main website, which is Heidi

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Speaker 1: Hollis dot com. Now, please know when you go to

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Speaker 1: that site, there's a lot of different bits of information

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Speaker 1: my work, and I'm even a comic strip artist the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: I feel it's very important to deal with these topics

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Speaker 1: as we do for any topic. Humanly flawed, sense of

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Speaker 1: humor and all of the above. We're gonna make mistakes,

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Speaker 1: and no one has all of the answers. And I

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Speaker 1: always say, if someone tells you they do apps, run

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Speaker 1: as fast as you can away from them. Together, let's

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Speaker 1: try to find the best solutions and comment add to

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Speaker 1: the conversation, don't detract. It's not about a competition. And

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Speaker 1: the strangest thing I believe I ever found here in

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Speaker 1: the paranormal world as someone who traveled to a lot

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Speaker 1: of conferences, a lot of people are very competitive, and

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Speaker 1: I could never understand that, but it did allow me

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Speaker 1: to understand why we haven't gotten as far as we

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Speaker 1: actually should. But I remember being that person going to

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Speaker 1: these conferences, attending just hoping to meet some of these authors,

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Speaker 1: these researchers who I thought could really help me out,

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Speaker 1: and for the most part, they look down their nose

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Speaker 1: at me. But I can't say that for everyone. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I've met some wonderful people along the way, and a

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Speaker 1: folks that you really really hoped could help, and when

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Speaker 1: they slam you, it's harmful because it's one of those

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Speaker 1: bits of research, one of those corners of the universe

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Speaker 1: where we are still developing, we are still digging, and

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Speaker 1: for someone to say to you or to me, not possible.

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Speaker 1: I've been researching this a long time. Is no way

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Speaker 1: I hear these stories and I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: anything is possible through God and his creations. Come on, now,

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Speaker 1: are there any limitations? Really? I don't think so, So

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Speaker 1: please forgive me if I ever trip up, or if

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Speaker 1: I ever say not in my understand endings. From my experience,

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Speaker 1: it happens, yes, And I have said, well, that's not

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Speaker 1: I am still growing, I'm still learning. And today I'm

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Speaker 1: modern day devil in our world today. Everything happens for

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Speaker 1: probably the most important discovery I've had in my research

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Speaker 1: it's a doozy guys. Um. So I was sharing a

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Speaker 1: and pay attention to some of this information she's sent

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Speaker 1: my way, and I I did, and then I didn't,

433
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: and then I did, and then I did. It's something

434
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: that you have to take in little bits. And then

435
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: she's like, Heidi, I want you to look at this

436
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Speaker 1: image of something that was introduced in the middle of

437
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Speaker 1: some of this information I told you about. I'm like, okay,

438
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Speaker 1: I take a look at this image and what it is.

439
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: It is a sculpture that's someone created a hundred years

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Speaker 1: ago by the name of Rudolph Steiner. Do you guys

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Speaker 1: know who Rudolf Steiner is? I personally had never heard

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Speaker 1: of him. I'd never heard of his work. I never

443
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Speaker 1: heard of what he did. I had my head down.

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00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: I knew what I needed to do in this lifetime,

445
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Speaker 1: and that was introducing these topics of shadow people, hat

446
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Speaker 1: Man and making sure that the right message gets put

447
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Speaker 1: out there, the warning and getting people prepared for the

448
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: onslaught of these dark things. And I guess I have

449
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: blinders on to a certain extent. And of course I'm Christian.

450
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: Talk about Jesus all the time here on the program,

451
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: and how those things intermit extend what's important. I keep

452
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: my eyes on it. I know what I'm supposed to

453
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: be doing. And then of course I do comic strips

454
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Speaker 1: the Outlanders comic dot com. Just in case you Kais

455
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Speaker 1: are interested, I do have a big sense of humor.

456
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Now let me read off who Rudolf Steiner is really quickly.

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Speaker 1: Rudolf Steiner was born in February eighteen sixty one and

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Speaker 1: died March thirtieth, ninety. This comes to us from Britannica

459
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Speaker 1: dot com. And he was an Austrian born spiritualist, lecturer

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Speaker 1: and founder of anthroposophy, which is a movement based on

461
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: the notion that there is a spiritual world comprehensible to

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Speaker 1: pure thought. But accessible only to the highest faculties of

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00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: mental knowledge. Steiner believed that humans once participated more fully

464
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Speaker 1: in spiritual processes of the world through a dream like consciousness,

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Speaker 1: but had since become restricted by their attachment to material things.

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Speaker 1: The renewed perception of spiritual things required training the human

467
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Speaker 1: consciousness to rise above attention to matter. The ability to

468
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Speaker 1: achieve this goal by an exercise of the intellect is

469
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Speaker 1: theoretically innate to everyone. He is also the creator of

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Speaker 1: something called guthen M, which he characterized as a school

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Speaker 1: of spiritual science. The Waldorf school movement derived from his

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Speaker 1: experiments with the Gulfenum. By the twenty one century, there

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Speaker 1: are more than one thousand Waldorf schools around the world,

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Speaker 1: and other projects that grew out of Steiner's work included

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Speaker 1: communities for persons with disabilities, a therapeutic clinical center in Switzerland,

476
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Speaker 1: scientific and mathematical research centers, and schools of drama, speech, painting,

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Speaker 1: and sculpture. And among many of his writings, one of

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Speaker 1: him is called the Philosophy a Spiritual Activity eighteen ninety four.

479
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: This man was a genius, and his work lives on

480
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Speaker 1: well beyond his time here on this planet. Now hearing

481
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: and learning about such a man. It's like I don't know,

482
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: discovering a mountain in your backyard all of a sudden,

483
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: like wow, how did I not see that? How did

484
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: I not notice this? And I feel again like I

485
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: have blinders on, just moving through life doing the things

486
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: that I knew I was supposed to be doing, and

487
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: to be introduced to his information the transformation. Now, when

488
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: it comes to hat Man, these are some of the

489
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: things that I know about him. He limits people who

490
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: have special abilities. Most importantly, a lot of people think,

491
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: well I did something wrong. I worshiped Satanic stuff. Okay,

492
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: that may attract something pretty evil, so that doesn't see

493
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: prize me. But more often than not, and I've said

494
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: this for years now, hat Man really pays attention to

495
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: people who are gifted, who have special sight or insight,

496
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: who are very spiritually inclined and aware consciousness highly elevated.

497
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, these are patterns I have noticed, and and

498
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: people do feel a lot more relieved to know, like, oh,

499
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: thank goodness, I thought I was just going to go

500
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: to Hell or something. Here I'm seeing something that feels

501
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: like the devil, and I know it is, and it's

502
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: getting closer and closer. It's harassing me. It's this, it's that.

503
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: So imagine this. My friend introduces me to listening to

504
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Speaker 1: some information about Rudolf Steiner. I'm like, I'm trying to

505
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: let it sink in. I'm trying to let it sink in.

506
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: And then she says, here, have a look at this

507
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: image of something Rudolf Steiner sculpted. And immediately I see

508
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, well, that's hat Man. She's like,

509
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: are you serious? I said, that's hat Man. That is

510
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: the look of hat Man. That is the original look

511
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Speaker 1: of hat Man. Now that's not what they called it.

512
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: What they called the sculpture that I was looking at

513
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: was called Ariman. I'm like, what is going on here? Okay?

514
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: I know this thing looks like hat Man. Okay. So

515
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: then I listened to some more information about this areman,

516
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Speaker 1: and I want to read to you what Ariman is

517
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: considered to be. Okay, Ariman is the evil spirit and

518
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: early Iranian religion. I'm going to miss his name up

519
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: zero Astrianism and Zoorovianism, lord of darkness and chaos and

520
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: the source of human confusion, disappointment, and strife. That's interesting enough,

521
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: but it gets better. Ariman is also considered to be

522
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: a demon of intellect, which includes worldly knowledge, science and technology,

523
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: where he essentially offers mankind a kind of mastery of

524
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: this physical world, you know, like the devil saying I'll

525
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: give you everything, but he will also lure us into

526
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: excessively diving into materialism and leaving thoughts of our souls behind.

527
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: It said that Ariman will reincarnate sometime. His impending incarnation

528
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: hangs like this threat over modern life. Now, when you

529
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Speaker 1: think about people having their faces in their cell phones

530
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: or their computers, or their video games or their television,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of like what they're talking about. We're

532
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: losing our sense of self. We're involved in this virtual world. Okay.

533
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: And even as I listened finally to some of the

534
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: information about Rodolf Steiner and some of the information he

535
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: was dishing out, this rammonic like presence is this disregard

536
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: for humanity being human and encouraging this transhumanism like movement

537
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: to be more intertwined with technology. Then I hear of

538
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: this talk of him trying to create this false place

539
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: that souls will be trapped. This is also something that

540
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: I've been talking about for years. It's something I've written about.

541
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: These souls are getting trapped haunted locations. There are souls

542
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: trapped shadow people, hat man. They contain souls in any

543
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: haunted location, and you will often hear e v p

544
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: s where they say he's coming, Who's coming? Shadow people?

545
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: Hat man. This is something I've been told is what

546
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: they do. You can look at my book written I'm

547
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: talking about this. So for me to come across this guy,

548
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: this unbelievable piece of crap, I love to call him

549
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: that hat man. And to know that he had shown

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Speaker 1: his face to Rudolph Steiner, and Rudolf Steiner apparently had

551
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Speaker 1: him hold still so he can sculpt him with his

552
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: own hands, and to see this face just blew me away.

553
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: I I can't even put into words. I literally jumped

554
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: up and down saying I know who you are. Now

555
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: you oh and a lot of expletives. Let's put it

556
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: that way. I know who you are and was warned

557
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: about absolutely. And the amazing part to me, I know

558
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: I agreed to be doing what it is I'm doing today.

559
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: I was told, I was instructed and I volunteered. I

560
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: didn't find this out through hypnosis or anything like that.

561
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: This is something that just literally came out of me

562
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: while I was in college, reflected on a memory and

563
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: there it was unbelievable. And now to come full circle

564
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: and to have the name and to know who he is.

565
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: You guys have no idea the impact this has on

566
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: myself and what it feels like for me to have

567
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to present this to you today. Another amazing

568
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: revelation I came across is that Rudolf Steiner predicted a

569
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: hundred years from when he said Aramon would reincarnate is today.

570
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: It's now, But he said he would reincarnate into a man.

571
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: But I know this as an entity that's appearing all

572
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: over the world. I'm still learning more about this. I

573
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: might get some of these interpretations wrong, and I'm always

574
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: open to learning. This has shaken me up and shaken

575
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: me down and around. I just don't even know. I

576
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: just don't even have the words. But you know what,

577
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: there's more information to come, and it gets better because

578
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you some more about this. You guys,

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625
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Speaker 1: as I am coming up to realize who the modern

626
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: day devil is in this world. Hat Man has presented

627
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Speaker 1: himself as that for some time, and I've put it

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Speaker 1: out as fast as I could once I was able

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Speaker 1: to get friends and family to be able to better

630
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Speaker 1: protect themselves. And now I come to you with the

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Speaker 1: latest on who hat Man was warned to be this arimon,

632
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Speaker 1: this entity that Rudolf Steiner had sit still for him

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Speaker 1: to sculpt this face. And it was said to me

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Speaker 1: by a couple of people. And I said to my

635
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Speaker 1: friend Maureen Sieberg, who else could have recognized him besides myself,

636
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Speaker 1: the person who's been tracking him for years, with thousands

637
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: of reports from around the globe and researched and first dubbed.

638
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Speaker 1: There was a problem going on with this man in

639
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Speaker 1: a suit that didn't quite look human all the time.

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Speaker 1: Now I mentioned that there's a reason why some people

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Speaker 1: report him looking differently. Sometimes he's clean cut sometimes so

642
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: you don't see a face, other times you do. It's

643
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 1: because there are others who are working for him as well. Now,

644
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: and that is quite a story as well on top

645
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: of it all. But what's important to note is the

646
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: original the origins of the original hat Man descriptions are

647
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: of this ariman and arimon that Rudolf Steiner sculpted has

648
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: a very elongated face, very pointed chin almond shaped eyes,

649
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: but they're different from like gray alien beings and very

650
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: pointed features. Absolute lutely what hat Man is described as.

651
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: And the original stories that I would get what is

652
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Arabon doing? If you guys look up something called the

653
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: eighth Sphere, that may tell you quite a bit. So

654
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: there is this false place that souls are going to.

655
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: Now I've written about in my first book, The Secret War,

656
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: talking about people who just so happened to have had

657
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: near death experiences and also have alien experiences and at

658
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: the end of their tunnel of like, guess what they see,

659
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: they see alien beings. Well, that doesn't seem right, doesn't.

660
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: Something has been going on. There's been an interference going

661
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: on when it comes to souls reincarnating, getting a chance

662
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: at life, either on the other side or even coming

663
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: back into this life. How does that make any sense?

664
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: All I know is what I was taught and told

665
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: from other beings and even from the other side. And again,

666
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: I never proposed to be a psychic or anything like that,

667
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: though people say, well, it seems like you are, and

668
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I don't know how to give titles

669
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: to what it is I've experienced. All I know is

670
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: I've experienced certain things, and I put it out there

671
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: as best as I can, as honestly as I possibly can,

672
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: and to just be who I am, which is a

673
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: person that's awfully easy to laugh at a lot of things.

674
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: That's all I can tell you. But amazingly to come

675
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: across this information to have these parts filled in for

676
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: me to even understand. I knew the souls were getting interrupted.

677
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: I knew that there was another place being prepared for souls,

678
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: but something was interfering. And if you were having interference

679
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: going on in this lifetime, it was going to continue

680
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: into the next if you didn't clear it up now.

681
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: And that sounds very biblical, right. It's like well, if

682
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: you've got demonic influences, when you cross into the other side,

683
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the side that reflected your life.

684
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: It's these influences that are cheating. However, they're putting influences

685
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: all over mankind. Doesn't matter if you're a kid, doesn't

686
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: matter how religious you are. They find a crack and

687
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: they wiggle their way in. I have so many people

688
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: who are like, just like, I'm very Christian, I do this,

689
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: I do that, And I have good friends that are

690
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: Muslim and Jewish. You know, look, I'm a good person.

691
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Why is this happening? Why are these dark beings messing

692
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: with me all the time? What's going on? But these

693
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: people have special insight, specially gifted, very observant, and those

694
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: are the types of people that these dark forces do

695
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: not want to have a part of this environment, this community,

696
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: because it wakes other people up. If you're gifted in

697
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: those certain situations, it's because you have a different consciousness

698
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: that's a lot more aware and a lot more elevated,

699
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: and they don't want that. They don't want mankind to

700
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,479
Speaker 1: evolve the other part of what I know that I

701
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: was told to let people know in this life in

702
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: this world is that the human potential You've heard me

703
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: over the years, there is something to be said about

704
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: the level of human potential that we all have to achieve.

705
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: It's achievable, and when we achieve this higher level of potential,

706
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: we evolve. Now, with these dark things being around us,

707
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: they limit our potential, They limit our length of life.

708
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: I know part of the reason that I'm working towards

709
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: is once you get rid of this negativity, once you

710
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: get rid of this aremonic tension, once you get rid

711
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: of shadow people and hat man, the sky is the

712
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: limit on where we can and we'll go. This life extends.

713
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: You heard of Biblical figures that live for hundreds of years? Like,

714
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: how is that possible? Maybe they counted differently. We can

715
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: and will return to elongated lifetimes. We can and will

716
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: recall prior knowledge from prior lifetimes in between lifetimes, what

717
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: I remember won't be so rare or odd. When death happens,

718
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: does it ever feel right? Does it ever seem like

719
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: it was meant to be here? I have been telling

720
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: people for years. Death was never meant to be part

721
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: of this lifetime. Garden of Eden, the choice between knowledge.

722
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: It was not supposed to be here, and there will

723
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 1: come a time where we do not have to deal

724
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: with it the way that we are now. We'll be

725
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: able to have our natural cycle of knowledge and being

726
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: human beings. It seems so far fetched, and and it's

727
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: something I don't talk about enough. I've written about it.

728
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: I've talked about it among friends, mostly because I know

729
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: it seems so far fetched, like how on earth? What

730
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: a task? But here I sit at the person who

731
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: was able to introduce two topics that no one had

732
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: ever heard of and to get people to come together

733
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: and realize that they have all been part of this

734
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: experience I was warning about. Little did I know how

735
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: widespread it had already become. All I knew was I

736
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: was supposed to talk about it, right about it and

737
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: put it out there. And my goodness, look at where

738
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: we're at today. So I feel very, very fortunate to

739
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: have been able to do this. But I haven't done

740
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: it alone because the whole time my guide has been Jesus,

741
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: and I've had angelic influences as well. And I just

742
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: pay attention, I listen, and we all have those abilities

743
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: to be able to listen, because our souls are a

744
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: lot more wise than we ever give them credit for

745
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't even acknowledge that they have

746
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: a soul for crying out loud. But we have got

747
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: to get back to that. We've got to tune out

748
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: and turn off our phones, turn off our televisions, and

749
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: get back to who we really are. And it's not

750
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: about meditating. I'll tell you I'm the worst person to meditate,

751
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: but prayer is kind of meditation. But be thoughtful, think

752
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: about things. Pause, take five minutes, think about where you

753
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: came from. Why are you here? Is it to watch

754
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: television forever? Is it to play those video games and

755
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: be the best video gamer there is? Is it to

756
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: be the best therapist that you're supposed to be. I

757
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: think there's a lot more to us than we give

758
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: ourselves credit for, and we have to start exploring that

759
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: and build up who we are now. Not all technology

760
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: is horrible to get involved in. There is a healthy balance.

761
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: Maureen Seeberg dubbed me to be a machine EmPATH because

762
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: I found this common ground to be able to make

763
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: an agreement. I guess you could say on working with

764
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: things around me in this environment. Every element on this

765
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: planet is a part of us, and we are a

766
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: part of it, and there is a common ground we

767
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: can find to get along. And the amount of knowledge

768
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: that is at our fingertips from the inside out and

769
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: going from the outside in is tremendous. I found hat Man,

770
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: hat Man is Ariman, and Ariman as hat Man. What

771
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: can I do with that knowledge? What can we all

772
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: do with that knowledge? It's almost as if this was

773
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: all just waiting there for me to find. For the

774
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: first time, I didn't feel alone here on this planet,

775
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: as having been the first one to start discussing and

776
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: warning this thing that was coming, this thing that was

777
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: already here. And I was told that there were others,

778
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: but I just didn't know where to find them. And

779
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: then to find that a hundred years ago Rudolf Steiner

780
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: spoke of this thing to come a hundred years from

781
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: his time, and to be sitting here and looking at

782
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: the face of the sculpture that he created, and to

783
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: just drop my jaw. You guys, there's gonna be a

784
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: lot more coming forward on this, because I don't know

785
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: if I can stop jumping for joy and calling out,

786
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: hat Man, you have no idea tears joy. All that

787
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: just came rushing at me as soon as this came

788
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: to light Full circle, guys, full circle, and I know

789
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be helpful. And for those of you

790
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: who study Steiner, I'm learning there's a lot out there.

791
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: They're probably just looking going wow, how did you not

792
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: know about him? Well, now I have, and I won't

793
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: forget it, that's for sure, as I learn more, as

794
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: I dive in more, I'm going to be revealing that

795
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: here on this show. And remember, if you have anything

796
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: that you want to comment on or contribute to this show.

797
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: If you want to be a guest to share about

798
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you've experienced, to my main website,

799
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollis dot com. Write me an email

800
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: with as much detail as you'd like in there, and

801
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: I'll read it here on the air, or again, you

802
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: can come on this program. Wow. I don't even know

803
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: how to put into words where I'm at right now

804
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: in my head. I've told a couple of people about

805
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: this conclusion, and it's still it's hard to even let

806
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: it sink in. Aramon Is hat Man. Hat Man has

807
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: another name besides the devil. What can we do with

808
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: that bit of information? What can we do? I tell

809
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: you what we can conquer? Because guess what Good always prevails.

810
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: God wins in the end. Right you guys, you are

811
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on

812
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,799
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Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network, and we will catch you next time.

814
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:09,480
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815
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Speaker 1: of Dark Becomes Light, wait till you hear the next one.

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