1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another new episode of 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Couch Talks. My name is Kat and if you are 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: wondering what couch Talks is, it is the bonus episode 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: of You Need Therapy that comes out every single Wednesday, 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: where I answer questions that you guys send into me, 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: and if you would like to send a question in 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: you can send that to Catherine at You Need Therapy 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: podcast dot com and hopefully one day I will get 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: to it. Always we like to remind you guys that yes, 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm a therapist, and yes I am answering questions that 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: you send to a therapist. And at the same time, 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: this is not therapy. However, it could encourage you to go. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: It could encourage you to talk about something specific in 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: your own therapy process if you're already going now. If 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: you can't tell I might sound sound a little weird 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: today because gosh, I have really bad allergies and I 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: don't think I've ever had allergies until the last couple 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: of years, but it feels like I get like this 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: every couple months. And um so I took allergy medication 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: for the first time ever in my life yesterday thirty 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: two and it seems like this is my new journey, 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: So excuse my voice if I sound a little different. 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be on the mend by next week. Now 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: before we jump into the questions, we're going to get 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: back to the attachment questions. And I have one more 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: that I want to share with you, guys. I wanted 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: to also thank you for all of the support you 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: have given my friend Katy and her family. And if 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: you listen to the last Couch Talks, I talked about 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: Ukraine and how I do have a friend whose family 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: is there, and it's really hard to one just know 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world, but also see somebody 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: personally going through something that is so difficult and so scary. 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: But you guys, you know, really surprised me. And I'm 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: so overwhelmed with the support that you have given her. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: She is so grateful, and she's been posting where she's 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: donating the money and what it's being used to buy. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: And it's very cool because you can see like your 39 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: dollars going to like food for elderly people, or food 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: for soldiers, or supplies and toothpaste for civilians who just 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: can't get access to that kind of stuff. Right now 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: it's really cool. So you don't know what I'm talking about. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: You can listen to last week's episode, the Stand with 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: Ukraine episode, and you can follow my friend on Instagram. 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Her name is Katia. Her Instagram name is at Nails 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: by Katia dot t n and you can stay donate 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: with that. You can donate to her venmo. You can 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: do all those things if you want to know other 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: wise you can help. I have a slide on the 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Union Therapy podcast Instagram page that has ways and then 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: websites and links that you can get involved stand formed help. 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: So this week we are getting back into some attachment questions. 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I have one question that I'm going to answer to 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: it today. It's a little longer, so we're just gonna 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: do one, and I thought it was a really good question. 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: I also reached out and asked if I could read 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: this verbatim because I wanted to read the whole thing. 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: But also sometimes I get a little bit not nervous, 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: but not wary. What's the word. I don't know. I 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that it's okay that I'm 61 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: reading these things that you guys share to me that 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: can feel kind of intimate. So here is the email. 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I got full permission to read it, and here it is. 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: Hi Cat, I've been listening to your podcast for about 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: a year now, and although you say it's not therapy, 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I have learned a lot about myself. I've been listening 67 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: to your series on attachment styles, and of course it 68 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: makes me wonder about myself and the people I have 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: relationships with and have had past relationships with. I'm thirty 70 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: five and have been married to my kind, supportive, hard 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: working and loving husband for seven years, and we have 72 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: had a reoccurring issue in our relationship where I feel 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: disconnected from him emotionally. I feel good for a while, 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: and then every few months it boils over and we have, 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: in quotes the talk again. I have been in a 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: few other dating relationships in the past and did not 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: feel like this, and actually quite the opposite, but we 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: definitely had our other issues. After listening to your podcast, 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I think that I have an avoidant type attachment, so 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: it makes sense in some ways that those relationships did 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: not work out. For example, I was scared. What I'm 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: wondering is is the disconnect in my marriage actually a 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: defense mechanism of my own? Meaning? Did I know this 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: was an issue from the beginning of our relationship, but 85 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: I subconsciously knew I would not get hurt by this 86 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: person because we don't connect the best on an emotional level, 87 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: thus it was safe to marry him. I write this 88 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: in order to maybe see myself as the reason we 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: don't emotionally connect and not put all the blame on him. Thanks. Okay, 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I love this question. It's so good, and I love 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: how deep this listener is thinking about her stuff. I 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: really admire that about you. So what I can't do 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: is answer this with a yes or no. We we 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: know that by now, but we can't talk about it, 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: and we can talk about some ideas that are coming 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: up for me here now. I kind of get the 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: idea that this person is saying that they are afraid 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: they chose their husband because since they couldn't connect emotionally, 99 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: there was less of a desire to retreat and and leave, 100 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: Thus they found themselves in a permanent commitment. Well, sure, 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: that could be true. I think there's also a room 102 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: for this not to be true, And there's also room 103 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 1: for this to be true, and it maybe not even 104 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: be a bad thing. I also think it's valid to 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: say here that of the population is secure. I want 106 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 1: to remind everybody that. So I did this attachment series 107 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: on the different attachment styles, and then we talked about 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: in depth the two insecure types. Those are not the 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: majority of people in the world. Thought of people do 110 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: have a secure attachment. Now, even if I'm secure, that 111 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: might mean that I might lean a little to one 112 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: side of insecurity at times, but that's because we're not perfect. 113 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that they have to 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: fit into one of the insecure types if they don't 115 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: um just because we talked about those, and and to 116 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: have some kind of like confirmation bias. I want to 117 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: just be very clear about that. Now, what I would 118 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: want to ask you, the person who wrote this this email, 119 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: is what are you looking for that you are not receiving? 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: Or what do you want to give that maybe you 121 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: aren't giving. These are all really important things that I 122 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: don't know, which is part of why I can't directly 123 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: speak to your scenario. Also, when you have the talk, 124 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: what comes up? How do you come to a resolution? 125 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: What does that look like? It's totally fair to say 126 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: that you won't be deeply emotionally connected with your partner 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and that goes to anybody and everybody in a relationship, 128 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and it's normal for us to have lulls. What we 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: don't want to do is catastrophize those lulls, just like 130 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: we wouldn't want to ignore them. What we want to 131 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: do is get very curious about them. Often, our anxiety 132 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: about disconnection creates a monster that is like much larger 133 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: than the actual disconnection itself. So being curious allows us 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: to explore what's going on in a non judgmental way, 135 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: without an agenda leaning towards one side or the other 136 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. Anxiety would say something seems off, something 137 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: is bad, when in reality, something could be off, but 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: it might not be bad. It might just be pointing 139 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: us to a need that we have. Now the part 140 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: of this where you said, did I self sabotaged by 141 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: marrying someone who I don't fully connect with as a 142 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: safety defense mechanism? I don't know the answer to that. However, 143 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: maybe you married someone whose style of attachment is compared 144 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: addible with yours. That can also be true. I don't 145 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: think that every couple has to have this intense stay up, 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: watch the stars and talk about the existential crisis of 147 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: life type of intimacy. That doesn't work for some people, 148 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: and they might not connect emotionally that way. They might 149 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: connect in different ways, and that's really okay. Like I 150 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: think something I would really want this person to think 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: about is how do I want to connect emotionally versus 152 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: how do I feel like I should connect emotionally? Those 153 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: are different and we don't connect emotionally. How we should connect. 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: It's how we do it because we're all different people. 155 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: And to be honest, that type of connection, that like deep, existential, 156 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: like long emotional talks exhaust me at times. And I'm 157 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: all about talking about feelings. I'm all about talking about emotions. 158 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: I love those conversations and I want to know my 159 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: partner deeply, but I don't want to have to like 160 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: stare into their soul every single night. Sometimes I feel 161 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: connected emotionally just by somebody noticing me, Like it doesn't 162 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: have to be this what we see as intense in 163 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: like the movies and maybe on Instagram or all of that. Honestly, 164 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: one time I was sick and somebody was dating offered 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: to bring me medicine and cook me dinner, and that 166 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: showed me that this person cared was intentional about what 167 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: I was feeling that day. I felt important and it 168 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: felt like they wanted to do something for me, and 169 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: that made me feel close to them. That was an 170 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: emotional connection for me. We didn't even have to say anything, 171 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: but he was clued into how I was feeling and 172 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: wanted to help make that better. Or maybe like one 173 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: day I'm quiet. It would be meaningful for a partner 174 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: to notice that and ask what's up. However, sometimes it's 175 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: our job to say, hey, I'm not feeling myself. Can 176 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: we talk. We can't put it all on the other person. 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: One of the best things my own therapist ever said 178 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: to me was Catherine, you can't withdraw your way to connection. 179 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: And my response was, well, I think that would be 180 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: nice and I want to do that, but it's also 181 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: not fair and it does not leave a lot of 182 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: room for success. Really, like I said, I would also 183 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: be very curious as to when you said you wanted 184 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: to connect emotionally, what really do you mean, how do 185 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: you feel that, and what did it look like in 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: the past. However, at that same point, like what was 187 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: missing in those relationships when you did have it? And 188 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: then what did you notice that you wanted to run 189 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: from now. Maybe in the end, you are the one 190 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: putting up these walls in your relationship, and we need 191 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: to figure out what it feels like those walls are. 192 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: So when you have those talks, it's not about I 193 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: feel like you're not connecting with me. I feel like blankets. 194 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: I know that I have these walls. I'm trying to 195 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: figure out what they are, and I need help from 196 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: you to help me break them down. So it doesn't 197 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: fall just on one person, because they might just be 198 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: taking your cues that you don't even know that you're giving. 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: And then what do we want to replace the wall with. 200 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: If you're someone who's more avoidant, it would make a 201 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: lot of sense that you, in quote want the connection. 202 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: So then you have the talk, but then you back 203 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: away because the connection is very scary, and I think 204 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: this is more of what you're getting at. So maybe 205 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: you become more curious about how your partner experiences you. 206 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: It can be confusing when you ask for something then 207 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: you put up that wall, right, So like I said, 208 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: that he just ends up taking your cues. And what 209 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: we know is avoid that people want connection to they're 210 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: just very afraid of it. So maybe a conversation you 211 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: have with your partner becomes less about I want this 212 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: and more about I'm scared of this. That right there 213 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: is connection. Talking about vulnerabilities and insecurities is so intimate. 214 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: Being fully seen in our scariest thoughts. That's connection. And 215 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: that speaks to like my example earlier, like somebody I'm 216 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: dating who gets to see me be vulnerable and sick 217 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: and weaken up my normal strong I can do it 218 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: all self, that's meaningful. And for me to let them 219 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: into that and then for me to let them help 220 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: in that space and not like, no, I can do 221 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: it on my own. That's connection, and it's scary and 222 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: it's vulnerable. So I encourage you to have that conversation 223 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: of like what am I scared of? What are the 224 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: walls that I'm putting up? And how do I want 225 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: you to come in and help me break those walls down? 226 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: And how do I want to take responsibility for me 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: putting those walls up again? As always, this is one 228 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: of those questions that I'm like, Oh, I would just 229 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: really up to have this person just come in for 230 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: a full little session. But like I said, the podcast 231 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: is not therapy. I just try to do the best 232 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I can helping you, guys think of more ways to 233 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: think about the questions that you're asking, so then you 234 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: can develop ways to answer them yourself, because in the end, 235 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about, for us to gain more 236 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: awareness of ourselves, to learn more about ourselves so we 237 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: can actually take care of the things that come up 238 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: instead of ignore them or feel helpless or feel lost. 239 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: So I hope that this was helpful, per usual, however 240 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: helpful that maybe again you can follow my friend Katya 241 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: at Nails by Katya Doten to help stay informed on 242 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: what's going on in Ukraine and in ways that you 243 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: can help support her, her family and the people in 244 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: Ukraine in general. And I hope you guys have the 245 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: day you need to have, the week you need to have. 246 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: I will talk to you guys again on Monday, hopefully 247 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: feeling much much better.