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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good
Speaker 2: us too. It is the bonus hour of the drive.
Speaker 2: Here high atop Chucknolefield where Matt In the last five
Speaker 2: or six minutes since we've been on air, things whoa
Speaker 2: holy cow, massive lightning bolts across the way from us
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, some really, I mean, it looks like
Speaker 2: it's nighttime. It looks like the sun's setting here.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. The cloud. You can see the starting to
Speaker 3: finish of it, like you can see the entire cloud.
Speaker 3: But it is gray and it is nasty. And it's angry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, far off to the right. Other than that, though,
Speaker 2: missus Lincoln, you're right, far off and far off to
Speaker 2: the right. You could still see where the nice weather was.
Speaker 2: But we are now completely covered by this huge, gray,
Speaker 2: ominous cloud that's moving pretty quickly and dropping a lot
Speaker 2: of water and bringing some lightning with it. So you
Speaker 2: know what, Matt, if it was a typical Friday night
Speaker 2: lights day today for the Steelers with practice was fifty
Speaker 2: five minutes away right now, he'd be in a lot
Speaker 2: of trouble. You've been lighting and everything. They'd be evacuating
Speaker 2: everyone from the premises. So hopefully this ends up being
Speaker 2: a blessing in disguise and you get some better weather
Speaker 2: twenty four hours from now.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping your weather app is right though. You said
Speaker 3: something along lines, so this should keep up for like
Speaker 3: forty five minutes. That was probably five minutes ago, that's
Speaker 3: what it says. And I'm thinking my car is a
Speaker 3: pretty decent walk and I'm just gonna get soaked through it,
Speaker 3: and maybe we'll miss it. You and I and I
Speaker 3: guess if it was tomorrow, maybe you just postpone practice
Speaker 3: for half an hour or whatever. That's a field, turf
Speaker 3: field from what I recall too, so they would just
Speaker 3: play on it. Fine, you know, Yep.
Speaker 2: It looks like some rain in the forecast tomorrow, but
Speaker 2: most of it in the morning, so hopefully all the
Speaker 2: smooth sailing there. Yeah, rain expected to stop in forty
Speaker 2: one minutes here, mate, perfect, We're on air for about
Speaker 2: fifty more minutes, hopefully, hopefully close. Hopefully that times out
Speaker 2: well for us. But I'm sure you folks might hear
Speaker 2: some some well I was gonna say, you might hear
Speaker 2: some lightning. I guess that's impossible. You might hear some thunder.
Speaker 3: We'll not here, lad, and as Matt and I will.
Speaker 2: See the lightning and the rain coming down here. And
Speaker 2: it's dark and it's ominous, but hopefully won't be lasting.
Speaker 2: Won't be lasting.
Speaker 3: You're right, there's a lot of clear skies and blue
Speaker 3: and white clouds around this, just giant. It's like the
Speaker 3: ship from the Empire flying over. That's exactly what it looks,
Speaker 3: Star destroyer or something, right, Lord Vader.
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna be wet out there, because, oh Lord,
Speaker 2: I hope it. I hope it eases off a little bit.
Speaker 2: What it says, it's going to or else. Matt and
Speaker 2: I are going to be drenched, drenched driving out of here.
Speaker 3: This guy's anywhere it is the.
Speaker 2: It is these now it looks like the cloud is
Speaker 2: almost just hovered and.
Speaker 3: Isn't it's just kind of hanging here. The U tell
Speaker 3: this thing to keep moving, all right, Get get.
Speaker 2: Out of here, you son of a gun. Let's hit
Speaker 2: the tweets here, as we like to do to a
Speaker 2: lot on this hour. We have got a lot. This
Speaker 2: will probably end up taking a couple of segments here.
Speaker 2: We'll see how many of these we can get to
Speaker 2: me tweets us and says doctor West and Professor Matt,
Speaker 2: speaking of regional dialect living here in the Greater Detroit
Speaker 2: area the last few years, I've noticed one Midwesterner word
Speaker 2: that drives me bonkers is across. It's crossed or across,
Speaker 2: not both, not across I'm missing my name, or across,
Speaker 2: so kind of like combining cross and across.
Speaker 3: If that means okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Like oh, across to the street, or.
Speaker 3: He lives across the street.
Speaker 2: Yes, or I you know, to go across the town.
Speaker 3: Across with an ed on the end. You're talking about yeah.
Speaker 2: I listen. I don't want to give myself up here,
Speaker 2: but I might have a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Yeah too.
Speaker 2: But that's interesting.
Speaker 3: This is one of those conversations. If you think you
Speaker 3: might do it, you definitely do it.
Speaker 2: That's like, hey, if you don't know who that person is,
Speaker 2: guess what that means to you. Smooth Dave says, do
Speaker 2: I have a revolutionary idea? Drew Aller's arm is strong.
Speaker 2: Why not have him drop back one or two steps
Speaker 2: further in the pocket. It'd buy an extra half second
Speaker 2: from the pass rush for him to make reads while
Speaker 2: still having the arm strength to get the ball where
Speaker 2: it needs to go.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Timing, though, brother time tim and.
Speaker 3: Timing, especially in this offense, which is based off Bill
Speaker 3: Walsh concepts way back when in the early eighties. Everything
Speaker 3: the route combinations are built off the footwar of the quarterback,
Speaker 3: whether they're in shotgun or under center. Usually under center
Speaker 3: Montana's third foot, you know, third step hits on a
Speaker 3: three step drop. Rice has to be coming out of
Speaker 3: his brakes the second the ball's done, and the timing
Speaker 3: is what makes it, especially Nose era, indefensible. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna scrap all that just because he's got a big arm,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And someone did a lot
Speaker 3: of work, mostly Walsh, in terms of marrying the routes,
Speaker 3: doing the math of it all. If you take this
Speaker 3: many steps as a receiver, it's pretty incredible really when
Speaker 3: you see it in action, like five step drop needs.
Speaker 2: To be poetry in motion.
Speaker 3: Man, two point six seconds or whatever, how long you
Speaker 3: have to be get open and the ball is going
Speaker 3: to be there when your head flips around.
Speaker 2: I'm very worried. This cloud isn't moving. No, No, it's
Speaker 2: just sitting there, but right above where where cars are parked.
Speaker 3: It's just stumping on us. Yeah. Good, a lot of
Speaker 3: lightning too.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh conversation says, fast forward to November first. Okay, if
Speaker 2: you were to bet one hundred dollars on what the
Speaker 2: steel starting offensive line looks like from left to right
Speaker 2: in a dream world with no injuries, go okay, So
Speaker 2: fast forward to November first. Yeah, I think we.
Speaker 3: Know left got ten in the book.
Speaker 2: If you're assuming no injuries, we know left to center
Speaker 2: Foultanu McCormick.
Speaker 3: Fraser, Anderson, Max.
Speaker 2: I think so. I still think it's gonna be I
Speaker 2: think Anderson's a good, but I think and is rather underrated. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I even think you would probably see Brack Kaufman
Speaker 2: before you see Jennings Dunker.
Speaker 3: I just yeah, I know that that's I think that's
Speaker 3: where they're going with this is you know, can Dunker
Speaker 3: be there?
Speaker 2: Can Dunker be that guy? And I think people are
Speaker 2: wondering if Max can be that guy too? Sure as
Speaker 2: we now have a medicine ball that's rolled out onto
Speaker 2: the field here in the middle of this storm.
Speaker 3: I would be shocked if Max isn't starting by November first.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think I'd be shocked if he's not
Speaker 2: starting by October first.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: But but but absolutely post bye week or I guess
Speaker 2: that would be right around when the Steelers would have
Speaker 2: their Bible because they come back that first week and
Speaker 2: play the Browns and then it's so that'd be like
Speaker 2: a week before the bye I think if my timeline
Speaker 2: has been lining up correctly, I just think it's so easy, Matt,
Speaker 2: because we've just seen a similar example with Mason McCormick.
Speaker 2: You know, Dunker was a third round pick. McCormick was
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick. So these times weren't first rounders
Speaker 2: or top fifty guys, but they weren't right. They even
Speaker 2: you know, a Zach Frasier range like in the top fifty.
Speaker 2: I think to start to yes, I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: see what the Steelers thought would happen with Mason McCormick,
Speaker 2: because remember, until the injuries, until you lost three guys
Speaker 2: on that offensive line.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was a next year probably.
Speaker 2: Mason McCormick was a next year project. And I think
Speaker 2: that is the onus for Dunker. But the difference being
Speaker 2: the Steelers have the depth now to withstand a couple
Speaker 2: injuries where they didn't and to wait it out. Because
Speaker 2: even even if even if you had.
Speaker 3: An Iowa too that's a great point as.
Speaker 2: Well, even if you had an injury Matt, you'd have
Speaker 2: brock Hoffman hop and you know he'd be the next
Speaker 2: guy hopping off the bench. And so I think that's right.
Speaker 2: I think Anderson and and mad Max on the right side.
Speaker 2: I think Anderson's gonna surprise some people this year, though
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are writing him off.
Speaker 2: He's a good player.
Speaker 3: I've said it a million times. I would love to
Speaker 3: extend Anderson and Cook because I think they're high quality
Speaker 3: offensive linemen, whether they're your worst starter or your best reserve,
Speaker 3: and there's value in that. Spencer is very versatile, very
Speaker 3: coach friendly, very intelligent, hard working from what I understand.
Speaker 3: Remember he was sixth or seventh round pick, seventh round
Speaker 3: pick that really kept getting better, better better. I think
Speaker 3: guys like that are hard to get out of the
Speaker 3: line up. I mean, you're gonna trust him, and he's
Speaker 3: played a fair amount of football too.
Speaker 2: He sure has a he's a draft pick too, seventh rounder,
Speaker 2: but he's a draft pick as well. And I just
Speaker 2: I understand there's been a lot of there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of capital used on that offensive line, sure, and
Speaker 2: a lot of high pedigree talent, and I get it.
Speaker 2: But I do think, and I'm probably guilty of this
Speaker 2: at times too, that we're not giving Spencer Anderson the
Speaker 2: credit that he.
Speaker 3: Deserves now real quick. On dunk, there hasn't been a
Speaker 3: lot of buzz particularly positive. I haven't heard anything negative either,
Speaker 3: But he's he's not shooting up the depth chart. He's
Speaker 3: not the talk of the town anything of that nature.
Speaker 3: But I do think game situations are more his alley
Speaker 3: than this, you know, especially the way that these guys
Speaker 3: are practicing, so maybe watch two preason games ago. Oh,
Speaker 3: I was really happy with Jenny's sure, right right.
Speaker 2: I think that very well could be the case. But
Speaker 2: there's just there's a real pecking order in front of
Speaker 2: him currently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough one to overcome.
Speaker 2: I mean he might be their fourth guard right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be shocked if Broderick moves into guard or
Speaker 3: Cook plays any guard. But that's still slightly slightly on
Speaker 3: the table.
Speaker 2: And he says two things we can always count on
Speaker 2: when listening to training camp coverage, hearing about epic storms
Speaker 2: and having a sudden craving for wings.
Speaker 3: Ah, yep, there are some.
Speaker 2: Good wings and there's some volatile weather and some very
Speaker 2: good wings in this in this region.
Speaker 3: She's very perceptive.
Speaker 2: I've wondered why that is, Like I think other than the.
Speaker 3: Other asked about that, like why are why do people
Speaker 3: love wings? In this next week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we'll it's back to There was
Speaker 2: like beef between Sharkis and Dinos back in the day
Speaker 2: they used I think Dino's was the first one, and
Speaker 2: the two guys that ran it one they kind of
Speaker 2: had a disagreement and one started Sharkis.
Speaker 3: But why wings they have similar or the.
Speaker 2: Sweet and heat, the sweet heat, the you know, the
Speaker 2: sweet sweet and heat sweet heat wings I think are
Speaker 2: kind of the signatures for both places.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, I always get Buffalo. I'm boring.
Speaker 2: You are a Buffalo guy. I I typically usually get
Speaker 2: Buffalo too. I do like the sweet heat out here.
Speaker 2: But it's weird because speaking of Buffalo, the only other
Speaker 2: place that I know in this country that's specifically is
Speaker 2: associated with chicken wings is La Trope. And but like
Speaker 2: Buffalo is obviously the but the only other place where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you're going there, you gotta get there.
Speaker 2: They're known for their wings. It's so good it's here.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just those two places and the overlap of
Speaker 3: the ownership. I don't know. We'll have to dig into
Speaker 3: that one. And I don't dig into that.
Speaker 2: Matt says, Hey, guys, I've heard the running game is
Speaker 2: struggling a little bit. Do you think that's something Attic?
Speaker 2: Is it just that the Steelers defensive line has been
Speaker 2: that good? Anyways? What kind of food do you like
Speaker 2: that most people would think is gross?
Speaker 3: I don't. I wouldn't say that. I would jump on
Speaker 3: the table and agree that the running game is struggled.
Speaker 3: I think it's a tough eval if you're not tackling.
Speaker 2: The physicality element in that run game has been tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a lot to go off of. But
Speaker 3: I do think a lot of the team drills where
Speaker 3: they're running basically full speed but not tackling. I see
Speaker 3: a lot of tackles for loss and Queen coming downhill
Speaker 3: and Harmon being tough to move, and I kind of
Speaker 3: attributed it more towards a good front seven than the
Speaker 3: other way around. I also think running games are a
Speaker 3: slow burn, especially when you're installing a new system. Keep
Speaker 3: it up, keep it up, and you make real small
Speaker 3: incremental process. And we got one percent better on the
Speaker 3: ground today. Yeah, okay, do that ten days in a row.
Speaker 3: You know. I think that you talk to O lineman
Speaker 3: that that doesn't come.
Speaker 2: Over, No, especially when it's a offensive line that has
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts. Because what Zach Frasier is
Speaker 2: the only one currently who's starting in the same position
Speaker 2: that he started in last year.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure the running game is different this year.
Speaker 3: I mean no doubt, not definitely the way they call it,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure the way they block it I mean
Speaker 3: and all those things too.
Speaker 2: What food do you like that? Most people would just
Speaker 2: thinking about that, Like sushi is always what I come
Speaker 2: up with with that, But I think a lot of
Speaker 2: people both LOVESHI. A lot of people dislike sushi because
Speaker 2: they don't do the raw fish. But I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people obviously.
Speaker 3: They did ten years ago or twenty years ago, and
Speaker 3: now people look at sushi like it's really really good.
Speaker 2: Mine would probably like, I don't know, like I love
Speaker 2: like tie in Indian food, like spicy curries and things
Speaker 2: like that Tika massalas h.
Speaker 3: I don't know, though, I can't come up with something that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hate a lot of things. Cold that's good.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I don't have those.
Speaker 3: Burgers on the grill next day eat the cold. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I'd never put an on microwave.
Speaker 2: That's I guess for most stuff. I would be with
Speaker 2: you on that. I think some stuff is actually even
Speaker 2: better cold the next day, Like certain like pastas and
Speaker 2: rice dishes so good the next day when you give
Speaker 2: the sauce time to kind of sit in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could coagulates, but.
Speaker 2: I'm not typically for these like That's what I think
Speaker 2: is different ethnic cuisine that certain people just whether it's
Speaker 2: because it's raw fish or it's something really spicy that
Speaker 2: they don't vibe with. But I'm not the type of
Speaker 2: person who's like, oh, I love to put peanut butter
Speaker 2: with my you know, hot dride, Like I don't have
Speaker 2: any weird quirks.
Speaker 3: Like like I put mayof Yes, I don't know one
Speaker 3: of those things.
Speaker 2: I don't think I do anything goofy like that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm trying to think, is there something weird I do?
Speaker 3: Probably but not obscenely crazy.
Speaker 2: Ian says, let's do one more here before we go.
Speaker 3: To brain, and I'll try new things. If people are like, say,
Speaker 3: this crocodile is something you need to try, or this
Speaker 3: chocolate covered fly is something, or cockroach is something you
Speaker 3: try it, But.
Speaker 2: It's not that I'm doing. I'm not eating it all
Speaker 2: the time. Ian says, nothing like a Friday Evening SNR
Speaker 2: show from training camp. It's been all quiet on the
Speaker 2: Joey portage in your contract situation. If you guys heard
Speaker 2: anything from any of your good insider friends, thanks and
Speaker 2: let me know how the wings are at Dino's. Still
Speaker 2: better than sharkis, I will say, Sharky's is our spot.
Speaker 2: Sharky's is our home turf. Yep. Sharky's menu top to
Speaker 2: bottom I think is better than Dino's. But the wings
Speaker 2: at Dino's are tough to be They are really good,
Speaker 2: so good, and Sharkis are very good too, But Dino's
Speaker 2: wings are top notch.
Speaker 3: And I've told this often, but I rarely. I don't
Speaker 3: ever get bone in wings when I'm on the air.
Speaker 3: It's just sloppy mess.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can he does the boneless when he's on.
Speaker 3: Air, and when you're on and you can between segments,
Speaker 3: you can hit him pretty hard, dip in the in
Speaker 3: the blue cheese, boom boom boom heat eight to ten
Speaker 3: of them between.
Speaker 2: Five minute commercial break, and you don't have to.
Speaker 3: Like clean your hands in your face, and you don't
Speaker 3: look like wolf, you know. So I spend much more
Speaker 3: time at Sharky's. So I really only have the Boneless
Speaker 3: at Dino's because You're always on air and I'm always
Speaker 3: on air, so I might not be given them in
Speaker 3: enough credit.
Speaker 2: I it's funny. We actually were laughing about that the
Speaker 2: other day. You and I last week had an evening
Speaker 2: show with our buddy Jerry Dulac at Dino's and you
Speaker 2: got a bunch of boneless wings, and I was like, Matt,
Speaker 2: I'm normally with you on that in terms of being
Speaker 2: on air.
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta get bone in here. They're
Speaker 3: just too good, too good. I have one more Dino show.
Speaker 3: I think I'll make sure I do that.
Speaker 2: Even Doulac had to get himself some bone in wings,
Speaker 2: and he's typically like the juxtaposition at some of these
Speaker 2: evening shows of what we all eat is hilarious. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: because you have the Tien Benzes and the Jerry Doulax
Speaker 2: of the world who get like a salad and steamed fish.
Speaker 3: And then you have you have Bens makes me crazy.
Speaker 2: Then you have Matt and myself who were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: can we get three dozen wings and some blue cheese?
Speaker 2: And of course wolf Wolf would get two dozen wings,
Speaker 2: two racks of ribs, and five slices of cheesecake.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell you this, but last night as Sharky's,
Speaker 3: I was sitting down getting ready to order and they didn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I could have ordered on top of it,
Speaker 3: but they just brought stuff out, which is a Sharky's move,
Speaker 3: which they like to take care of us, which is
Speaker 3: awesome at like ten pm. Like I wasn't complaining, And
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but I'm like, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to order something on top of this, even though I
Speaker 3: was looking at the blue cheeseburger and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're burgers of Sharkis are very good.
Speaker 3: I haven't had one.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had the grilled cheese cheeseburger? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Dan Sky was talking about that. He's like, I did
Speaker 3: that a couple of years ago and it was really
Speaker 3: really good, but it didn't exit as well as well
Speaker 3: as it entered. Oh yeah, washed because they brought out
Speaker 3: the fat guy, uh the lights and he had never
Speaker 3: heard of one. He's like, oh, but I did the
Speaker 3: grilled cheese burgers. Yes, I'm like, this is taking it up.
Speaker 3: That was the talk of the town three years ago.
Speaker 3: Light right, right, right.
Speaker 2: So the grilled cheese cheeseburger is quite simply a cheeseburger
Speaker 2: in between two grilled cheeses, us four piece of bread,
Speaker 2: four pieces of two grilled cheeses, four pieces of bread,
Speaker 2: with a burger in between.
Speaker 3: It's a big burger works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's outstanding. That used to be the thing, you know,
Speaker 2: myself and and our buddy formerly of our team, Adam Crowley.
Speaker 2: That was a tradition we had a couple of years
Speaker 2: at camp is the last night at Sharky's. We would
Speaker 2: always get the grilled cheese cheeseburger. That was like the tradition.
Speaker 3: Guy had bites of them, but I never ordered one.
Speaker 2: But now it's the Fat Guy Delight, which is the
Speaker 2: the sandwich on their menu that was created by our guy,
Speaker 2: Craig Wolfley, which is a cheese steak with French fries
Speaker 2: on it, wrapped in a pizza.
Speaker 3: Wrapping like a plain pizza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a bomb, but it is so good. Also,
Speaker 2: still quiet on the JPJ contract. I was trying to
Speaker 2: funny enough last night at Sharky's. Are good insider friends.
Speaker 2: I was getting in all their ears. I was like,
Speaker 2: what's going on with Joey Porter.
Speaker 3: Junior, what's going on about that time right?
Speaker 2: And they were like, not not much movement. They think
Speaker 2: it's kind of what you and I were talking about
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the show. They think him and
Speaker 2: Gonzales and Witherspoon are all kind of just waiting each
Speaker 2: other out and seeing who blinks first at this point,
Speaker 2: so obviously something will keep an eye on but Ian.
Speaker 2: It's all quiet on the on the J PJ front
Speaker 2: as of now.
Speaker 3: I would think Porter's contract will be the lightest of
Speaker 3: those three. I think he'll get more than DJ Turner,
Speaker 3: who's a really good player. Yes, I think he'll get
Speaker 3: Lessonansal this lesson Witherspoon, who's very different of the three.
Speaker 3: He's not he's a slot tough guy. You know.
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break here, Matt. The Steelers have
Speaker 2: added a tight end off of Waivers.
Speaker 3: The depth of tight end is worried me a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's something we talked about yesterday. We'll discuss who the
Speaker 2: Steelers have added here in the last few minutes. Will
Speaker 2: also continue to hit some of your tweets as we
Speaker 2: roll along here in the five o'clock hour. You know
Speaker 2: where to get at us if you want to get involved.
Speaker 2: In the last twenty minutes since we started this segment,
Speaker 2: there's now puddles out on the field. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: how hard it's coming down right now for two days
Speaker 2: two there's all the sidelines and the end zones. I
Speaker 2: mean there are there is puddling all in front of
Speaker 2: us right now. In this last kind of twenty minutes
Speaker 2: of really pouring down rain. Although good news. So when
Speaker 2: I look to the left, the skies are starting to
Speaker 2: clear up a little bit. So hopefully in another half
Speaker 2: an hour or so when we're getting out of here,
Speaker 2: it won't be won't be too dicey for Matt and
Speaker 2: I walking back to our cars. More of your tweets.
Speaker 2: More on the Steelers clearly turning over some stones here
Speaker 2: at the tight end position. You know where to get
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Speaker 2: So just before we went to break, we told you
Speaker 2: the Steelers making some moves with the tight end position.
Speaker 2: Matt A thank you to one of our loyal listeners
Speaker 2: and tweeters, Michael Edesso, for pointing this out to my attention.
Speaker 2: Just a few minutes ago. These Steelers claimed tight end
Speaker 2: Lance Mason off of waivers. Mason, an undrafted rookie out
Speaker 2: of Wisconsin this past season, was with the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 2: but was waived by the Seahawks. Yesterday, Steelers awarded him
Speaker 2: off of waivers. Lance Mason, another tight end to put
Speaker 2: into this conversation of needing someone to emerge behind obviously
Speaker 2: the two proven commodities of Pat Fryermuth and Darnel Washing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we touched on this sum and I
Speaker 3: actually did a majority of a podcast the other day
Speaker 3: about it. Where the final safety spot in the final
Speaker 3: tight end spot on the fifty three? Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: you got to keep churning those waters a little bit.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean the answer is not here, but I
Speaker 3: at least want to create competition. I want to keep
Speaker 3: seeing what I can pluck off the waiver wire or
Speaker 3: trade or free agents or whatever. I know nothing about
Speaker 3: this player, but I will say and again, he may
Speaker 3: be terrible, he might be great. I don't know. It
Speaker 3: was such a deep tight end draft that undrafted rookie
Speaker 3: probably was a.
Speaker 2: Six or seven. Maybe he's a six round pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's just so many this year that it
Speaker 3: makes me feel a little better about it.
Speaker 2: He played the majority of his career at Missouri State
Speaker 2: before transferring to Wisconsin. For his last year. He caught
Speaker 2: thirty passes for almost four hundred yards, three hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety eight yards and four touchdowns, So basically thirty passes,
Speaker 2: four hundred yards, four touchdowns. Last year at Wisconsin, Matt
Speaker 2: he is six foot three, two hundred and forty three
Speaker 2: pounds thirty one and three eighths inch arms ran a four,
Speaker 2: which just says he wait, I'm sorry, six three two
Speaker 2: forty three.
Speaker 3: Oh okay. So he's a lighter move guy. Probably he's not.
Speaker 3: Probably he's not. He's closer to Firemooth than.
Speaker 2: Darknas Well, to be fair, not many close to Darnell,
Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying. Ran a four seven
Speaker 2: two forty yard dash, thirty two and a half inch vertical,
Speaker 2: put up twenty two reps on the bench press. He's
Speaker 2: from Rockwell, Texas and is now on his way to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: But you're right, listen, You're never gonna look at a
Speaker 2: roster in the salary cap era and say, oh, we
Speaker 2: have no weaknesses, We've got depth, We're set everywhere. But
Speaker 2: right now, safety and tight end are the two spots
Speaker 2: that stand out for the Steelers. Of you'd like.
Speaker 3: Someone comes available, you might want to kick the time.
Speaker 2: You'd like another dependable body in those positions.
Speaker 3: And again, in case you missed it, shame on you
Speaker 3: for six weeks. But just envision a world where you're
Speaker 3: without Friar Muth or Washington for a stretch. I don't
Speaker 3: like that world.
Speaker 2: I do not like that world.
Speaker 3: No one bit back they Hotel. I'm gonna pull this
Speaker 3: name up from the Beast. I'm sure Dane has a
Speaker 3: blurb or two on him.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm sure he does. I believe it. That's
Speaker 2: actually a good idea for you there. I might have
Speaker 2: to do that same thing. We got some tweets about
Speaker 2: our Hall of Fame conversation that we had yesterday, Troy says,
Speaker 2: you guys were talking about the Hall of Fame, how
Speaker 2: there's so many Steelers and in there, and sometimes you
Speaker 2: know that can lead to fatigue and guys being told no.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's the case with LC and with
Speaker 2: hinz Ward. I think maybe it was for l C
Speaker 2: for a period of time.
Speaker 3: I definitely gonna say through the eighties and nineties people
Speaker 3: got sick of putting the super Steelers in. Now, that
Speaker 3: was an unprecedented amount of Hall of Fame talent on
Speaker 3: one squad. I don't know that it's still true. I
Speaker 3: don't think you still look at it. Since the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame's been built, you guys have more than your quota.
Speaker 3: I don't think the Steelers are putting in Hall of
Speaker 3: Famers at a ridiculous rate the last ten years or so.
Speaker 3: I probably heard Els back in the day. I just
Speaker 3: don't think that he's a slammed on Hall of Famer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean not giving him a hard time. I would
Speaker 3: have loved to see him get in the Veterans Committee
Speaker 3: situation this year, but I thought Craig was more deserving. So,
Speaker 3: if you're honest with yourself, I don't think he's been
Speaker 3: the best candidate yet. Who's the other name Heines. I
Speaker 3: don't think he's worthy either. I know that that makes
Speaker 3: people mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we get tweets about that all the time.
Speaker 2: Like Joe tweeted us and said, I'm gonna fight you
Speaker 2: guys on Hines. He had comparable numbers to other wide
Speaker 2: receivers who were in to Super Bowl, super Bowl MVP,
Speaker 2: longevity had a rule change because of his tenacity.
Speaker 3: I agree with all those things. I know those are
Speaker 3: all undeniable.
Speaker 2: Those are facts, those are absolute facts. That's just man,
Speaker 2: that's such a hard position to get in when when
Speaker 2: the way that the numbers are like they are now.
Speaker 2: And I agree with you, Joe, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: wide receivers in there that Hines has comparable numbers too.
Speaker 2: But he's got the Super Bowl MVP, and he's got
Speaker 2: a lot of the other stuff.
Speaker 3: And the blocking can't be forgotten. I mean, he's an
Speaker 3: impact player on the field that nobody wanted to play against.
Speaker 2: And I will say this, of all those guys that
Speaker 2: we kind of say are toss ups, right, yeah, I
Speaker 2: do think Hines has one of the better cases of those.
Speaker 3: No doubt of those guys like he's a better case
Speaker 3: than Elsie.
Speaker 2: You think so, yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael says loved here,
Speaker 2: and you guys tell stories about Dale and him getting
Speaker 2: honored on those World Pony World series uniforms yesterday warmed
Speaker 2: the cockles of my black and gold heart. Also, when
Speaker 2: Ben makes the Hall of Fame, you guys got to
Speaker 2: come visit me in Canton. We have a Culver's.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 2: If you want Matt and I to go somewhere, having
Speaker 2: a cavers is a.
Speaker 3: It's a good it's alluring, it's a good start. I'm
Speaker 3: sure we'd make a stop there. That's a good start,
Speaker 3: I would think. I mean, there's a very good chance
Speaker 3: that we've talked about this lot. But I'll be shocked
Speaker 3: if Ben's on a first ballot Hall of Famer, And
Speaker 3: if he isn't, it's going to be the second year
Speaker 3: because he's not quiring to a first ballot. He's not
Speaker 3: to Peyton Kickley didn't get in last year, Gates didn't
Speaker 3: get in the first year two years ago as the
Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Famer. I still think Ben has
Speaker 3: a better case in both those guys, and I'll be
Speaker 3: angry if he doesn't get into year one. If not,
Speaker 3: it'll be your two the year he gets in. I
Speaker 3: would say there's a really strong chance the Steelers are
Speaker 3: in that game.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would. I would almost be shocked, really strong chance.
Speaker 3: Now imagine if fans will travel.
Speaker 2: Imagine if it's next year and Gronk and Ben both
Speaker 2: get in first ballot, and then you could have Patriots
Speaker 2: Steelers preseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right right, that would be That would
Speaker 3: probably be how it goes, Matt.
Speaker 2: I would honestly be surprised if in the next year
Speaker 2: or two the Steelers aren't playing in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of my point is, I would expect
Speaker 3: one of the next two Hall of Fame games will
Speaker 3: have the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: In, which would mean training camp would start a week
Speaker 2: earlier out here in.
Speaker 3: Literally did they have to do that? I know you can.
Speaker 3: Good question, because you can also start earlier with a
Speaker 3: new coach. And I think the Steelers declined they did,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Now, that's a good point. It's a very good I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sure they would start earlier no matter what, because you
Speaker 3: have a game earlier. But I don't know, there'd be
Speaker 3: a whole week.
Speaker 2: Maybe they just wrap up earlier in the portion out
Speaker 2: here too.
Speaker 3: The last guy that went in. I think Fanica is
Speaker 3: the most recent to win in Dale. And I did
Speaker 3: the drive up there.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember you telling me about that, So that's possible.
Speaker 2: Andrew tweets and you know what, you.
Speaker 3: Would be there for game day? Yes, no matter what, Yes.
Speaker 2: Be part of that broadcast crew, babe. What should be
Speaker 2: prett cool? It's a cool setting for a game.
Speaker 3: There, it is. They did a lot of renovations. I
Speaker 3: forgot watching stadium on TV left. Yeah, it looks pretty.
Speaker 3: A lot of money into it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Andrew tweets us, And you know what, Matt,
Speaker 2: you just said it earlier. But shame on me for
Speaker 2: six weeks for not bringing up this earlier. Andrew says,
Speaker 2: I need Wes's thoughts as a college football junkie and
Speaker 2: Matt's thoughts as a former employee on this Akron decision
Speaker 2: to allow a season ticket holder to help design their
Speaker 2: first offensive script first series against Roberts. Did you hear
Speaker 2: about this? So? Akron had a promotion where if you
Speaker 2: were a season ticket holder, they're going to do a raffle, Right,
Speaker 2: They're going to have a contest and one season ticket
Speaker 2: lucky season ticket winner is going to be chosen and
Speaker 2: they are going to be part of the offensive play
Speaker 2: calling for the first series. They will they will be
Speaker 2: included in the pregame press conference, they will be miked
Speaker 2: up with a headset and a play sheet, and they
Speaker 2: will sit in the offensive coordinators coaches box during the game.
Speaker 3: That's nuts.
Speaker 2: They sold out their season tickets because of this, I'm
Speaker 2: sure as you.
Speaker 3: Can imagine, Well that part I get.
Speaker 2: My thought is a college football junkie is I'd be
Speaker 2: kind of upset. If I was Robert Morris, I'd be like, Oh,
Speaker 2: you think we're just guys.
Speaker 3: I know what I was thinking.
Speaker 2: You're going to roll in there and you guys can
Speaker 2: have watch. We're gonna pick six this first thing. I
Speaker 2: also think, though Matt college sports are supposed to be
Speaker 2: fun and that is pretty cool. And I'm not surprised
Speaker 2: that they sold out their season ticket allotment now because
Speaker 2: for I think it was seventy five dollars someone said
Speaker 2: was their cheapest season ticket. Hey for seventy five bucks.
Speaker 2: If I've got a chance to uh to be an
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for Akron for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right?
Speaker 2: How cool.
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: Okay? I like the idea. I kind of wish I
Speaker 3: came up with it when I was director of Ops
Speaker 3: to sell tickets. I mean, people weren't lining up though
Speaker 3: to go to the Rubber Bowl at that point. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to bring it up because I want
Speaker 3: to make sure I haven't kept in touched these guys
Speaker 3: as much as I should have. But a lot of
Speaker 3: the guys on staff now have come and gone, But
Speaker 3: were the guys I was there with. Surprisingly, Yeah, like
Speaker 3: Joe Morehead right right, Like JD brookard Is who hired me.
Speaker 3: He was Pitt's wide receiver coach with like Antonio Bryant
Speaker 3: and Larry and got the head job at Akron and
Speaker 3: took me with me as his director of football Ops.
Speaker 3: And Joe Moorehead was our offensive coordinator at the time.
Speaker 3: Now Joe Morehead is the head coach and JD's the
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. All these pit ties and reno feree Terry Richardson,
Speaker 3: these are a couple of guys that have had some
Speaker 3: connections as well. So rooting the best for him, it
Speaker 3: is a slap of the face to Robert mood was.
Speaker 2: Immediately if you're Robert Morris. There's all the there's all
Speaker 2: the bulletin board material that you need to get your
Speaker 2: boys fired up for that week one trip.
Speaker 3: What would we say if the Falcons were doing that
Speaker 3: right now? All right, we're having a hard time selling tickets.
Speaker 3: Who wants to uh yeah, here.
Speaker 2: Comes here comes a TJ. And I know that games
Speaker 2: that actress eleven Man blitz. Here here comes a TJ.
Speaker 2: Watch strips at uh Steelers. Our buddy that we met
Speaker 2: at Sharkey's the other night, says looked into this. Lamar's
Speaker 2: two MVP eight seasons both came in year one of
Speaker 2: a new system with a new out offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Outside of those two seasons, he's seventeenth in quarterback EPA.
Speaker 2: He also has much more success against NFC teams who
Speaker 2: don't see him as much. Considering all these factors, is
Speaker 2: he's starting to become easier to figure out than some
Speaker 2: may think.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I think the novelty of I've never
Speaker 3: seen anyone like this guy is gone. And the Steelers
Speaker 3: have always been ahead of the curve on that, not
Speaker 3: as much lately, but especially early in his career, they
Speaker 3: were by far the best defense in the league. Against
Speaker 3: I mean, I think familiarity it had a lot to
Speaker 3: do with it, as well as good defensive players. Yes,
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a lesser player, but I definitely
Speaker 3: think there's more books on him. I mean, doesn't have
Speaker 3: to curveball quite as well as you know, you find
Speaker 3: the weaknesses on these guys a little bit. And I
Speaker 3: also think injuries had a lot to.
Speaker 2: Do with it. That's like, that's life and the newtational football.
Speaker 3: But he also has a new coordinator this year, and
Speaker 3: he won the MVP the two times we got a network.
Speaker 2: Oh no, maybe that's why the oddsmakers in Vegas loved
Speaker 2: the Ravens the Wild Division so much. We've got one
Speaker 2: or two more tweets to hit on here, some final
Speaker 2: teas to cross, and eyes to dot from the day's proceedings.
Speaker 2: We'll do all that and more when we return to
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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the Drive. Final segment of our
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation radio coverage on this Friday. But we will
Speaker 2: have another full day for you of course tomorrow, all
Speaker 2: leading up to Saturday night Lights. The first Saturday night
Speaker 2: Lights here similar uh, similar concept.
Speaker 3: But just on a different day.
Speaker 2: Differ Ye Saturday night Lights there.
Speaker 3: All days running to run the same to me anyways,
Speaker 3: what the week is?
Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth? I will say? Though, as like
Speaker 2: there is a puddle of water in the middle of
Speaker 2: these fields that is literally running like a stream. Right now,
Speaker 2: how much water in the last h in the last
Speaker 2: hour or so here, Saturday Night Lights.
Speaker 3: Some of these corners can ye get pretty deep too
Speaker 3: down there to the right.
Speaker 2: This is like one of those like if you were
Speaker 2: like a middle school or high school football team out
Speaker 2: on this field and you've just finished practice, you'd be
Speaker 2: doing the whole like sliding through the water and yucking
Speaker 2: it up out here. Uh, Saturday Night Lights doesn't though.
Speaker 2: The only the only thing is it just doesn't quite
Speaker 2: roll off the tongue like fris That's.
Speaker 3: A thing, of course, but it's a high school stadium.
Speaker 3: They play on.
Speaker 2: Fut right, ye, Matt, before we We've got two more
Speaker 2: tweets that I want to hit before we get out
Speaker 2: of here. But at first the extensions start coming and
Speaker 2: they don't stop coming. An extension four Titans guard Peter
Speaker 2: Scron he just talked about yesterday now the top paid
Speaker 2: guard in the National Football League, as Turn Davenport. Funny,
Speaker 2: you're usually the one who says this, I used to
Speaker 2: work with him and such and such. I used to
Speaker 2: work with Turan Davenport at WIP, the radio station in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: He's he reported it.
Speaker 2: He's the Titans guy for he's the Titans reporter for ESPN. Now,
Speaker 2: oh okay, so he you know, ten years ago covered
Speaker 2: the Eagles in Philly. He is now the Titans reporter
Speaker 2: for ESPN. Toront's a really good dude, and he just
Speaker 2: reported twelve minutes ago here. The Tennessee Titans have signed
Speaker 2: left guard Peter Skronsky to a four year, one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollar extension, eighty eight million of which is guaranteed.
Speaker 3: WHOA.
Speaker 2: This deal makes Skronsky the highest paid guard in the NFL.
Speaker 3: By no means, just like I told you so. But
Speaker 3: I've mentioned him on the air a lot as one
Speaker 3: of the best players in the league that doesn't get
Speaker 3: the credit. Talks about it, and I've got some tweets
Speaker 3: saying he's fine, you're talking. Yeah, No, he's a big
Speaker 3: time young dude. That's one of the best guards in
Speaker 3: the league already. Was a phenomenal tackle at Northwestern and
Speaker 3: got kicked inside in a Zach Martin like way just
Speaker 3: because he has shorter arms and is blowing it up.
Speaker 3: He's just on the worst O line in the league
Speaker 3: probably and one of the worst teams in the league,
Speaker 3: and nobody knows it.
Speaker 2: You sign one hundred millillion dollar contract as an offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: I think you're pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the league just backed up what we
Speaker 3: were saying about his abilities.
Speaker 2: Matt two more tweets to get to before we get
Speaker 2: out of here. Ed asks which Steeler needs to which
Speaker 2: Steeler or Steelers need to start impressing more out out
Speaker 2: at campus. It's a good one.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried. He moves fine. He just hasn't had
Speaker 3: like a signature moment or boy he you know, just
Speaker 3: ripping the defense apart today.
Speaker 2: You know, Pittman's a good one. I think really a
Speaker 2: lot of the wide receivers not named DK Metcalf in that.
Speaker 3: Regard, I would like to see a smidge Moore.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see a Smidgemore Bernard some of the again,
Speaker 2: some of the running backs and things like that.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to avoid that because.
Speaker 2: They're not live tackle like I would. Caleb Johnson feels
Speaker 2: like that would be a pretty pretty good answer.
Speaker 3: I like the way he's scooting around. I think he
Speaker 3: moves pretty well.
Speaker 2: Heck, I might even say people like Patrick Queen and
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson in this exercise.
Speaker 3: And again also probably fair.
Speaker 2: And I won't go into a in to any specifics, Matt,
Speaker 2: because it was a closed practice today, but I did think.
Speaker 2: All I'll say is, I think Peyton Wilson had a
Speaker 2: good day today. But that's the first time I've kind
Speaker 2: of come away saying that about But again, it's so
Speaker 2: hard to evaluate anyone really other than wide receivers and
Speaker 2: defensive backs.
Speaker 3: Yesality element, I mean the O line stuff and D
Speaker 3: line stuff. Yes, we got some one on ones that
Speaker 3: I'm kind of excited about. You know, that's my favorite
Speaker 3: part of practice, but they're not super long lived and
Speaker 3: you might get five reps. So if it most maybe
Speaker 3: Dunker Dunkers.
Speaker 2: We talked about him earlier, but again it's a tough
Speaker 2: ask when it is when you're kind of toning down
Speaker 2: the physicality. How about Will Howard too?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, do more. He's made some throws and he
Speaker 3: looks comfortable, but you know, blow me away in seven
Speaker 3: on seven with no pass.
Speaker 2: Rod exactly right, exactly right. Those are the ones that
Speaker 2: kind of stand out. And again, like I would think,
Speaker 2: like a Broderick Jones.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about him too by a game of pass,
Speaker 3: just because of the weight and the neck and things
Speaker 3: like that. But if he's getting blown way in preseason,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a little word. I think we've all
Speaker 3: get blown away here.
Speaker 2: But you know, Matt, we always put way too much
Speaker 2: stock into the preseason games, particularly the first one. But
Speaker 2: I think in lieu of live in lieu of live
Speaker 2: tackling and a lot of the physical elements of training
Speaker 2: camp that we're used to a choice. I think that
Speaker 2: overreaction machine six days from now is going to be
Speaker 2: even ramped up whenever the Steelers play the Packers.
Speaker 3: Yes, and especially for our purposes, but also true for
Speaker 3: the coaching staff compared to the previous coaching staff. That's
Speaker 3: gonna be the midterm, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got your homework in, you did okay, but you know, boy,
Speaker 3: you failed the midterm though. You know, like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if I can give that guy. Oh, there's the rainbow.
Speaker 2: There it is.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Just finally were walking off the air. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: We'll be heading to the pot of gold back at
Speaker 2: our car one minute here, Matt, before we go, John
Speaker 2: says today is International Beer Day. I need to know
Speaker 2: your guys' top three favorite beers. I'm not international beer.
Speaker 2: There's a there's an international everything day. Now, when's International
Speaker 2: mac and Cheese Day.
Speaker 3: I usually just have high lives at the bar, you
Speaker 3: know that. But I'm not real picky. I'm not in
Speaker 3: the micro bruise and my's and stuff everyone loves.
Speaker 2: My top two are very easily or easily Guinness. My
Speaker 2: top two are Guinness and le bat.
Speaker 3: You had a good conversation of where you can get
Speaker 3: good Guinness in Pittsburgh. Hit you up.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Irish Creg one of the Steelers
Speaker 2: employees that we love, who's from Dublin, Guinness Labat. And
Speaker 2: then my third would be this German beer called Weinstefan,
Speaker 2: which is just absolutely fantastic. Happy International Beer Day. That's
Speaker 2: convenient that that falls on Friday, domestic tonight. That'll do
Speaker 2: it for Matt and I. Thanks to our guy Brian
Speaker 2: for producing back at the Ranch and we will be
Speaker 2: back with you tomorrow, a full nine hour day here
Speaker 2: again to lead up under the rainbow, under the rainbow,
Speaker 2: somewhere under the rainbow. No, that's under the sea. I'm
Speaker 2: confusing my words. Just get out of here on this
Speaker 2: Friday evening. You'll take care. Everybody, have a good one.
Speaker 2: We will talk over tomorrow Over the Rainbow.
Speaker 3: That's Kermit song. Yeah.
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