1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports. 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: No. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: If you're your host, Michael buffis Paul Moyer listening. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 3: To Hawkslot presented by the Dining just after Bellvey Collection. 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 3: The show starts at seven every Thursday right here on 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: see have the Sport seven ten broadcasting live from Bellvy 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: Square Center Court. Now, if you're not live, like you're 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: listening on the radio, our fans here, you guys got 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 3: a root awakening. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 4: You guys awake. 13 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: Now the sound system say, look, make sure you're up 14 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: because you gotta listen to Paul Moyer. 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 4: Man, Paul, how you doing. 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 5: I'm good. The crowd's in a better mood than last week, 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 5: that's for sure. 18 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: That's for sure. But why is that? 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 5: Probably because we got our butts kicked a week ago 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 5: but made amends for that this past week. And this 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 5: is a fun time right now. By the way, we 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 5: always talk about this is a great setting here at 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 5: the collection, Bellevue Collection and the holidays coming up next week, 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 5: next week's Thanksgiving crazy crazy matter fact, this started last 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 5: show for three weeks we got two Thursday games in 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: rub we got Thanksgiving, and the that following week we're 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 5: in Dallas for Thursday night again. So and actually yeah, 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: then the third week we're back. So glad to have. 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: Everybody Paul doing that math calculating did not very quick. Hey, 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: it's all good, baby, Hey, but last week the Hawks 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: get it done twenty nine to twenty six, And it's 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: been weird in Seattle because you look at the win 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: and you go, I will take that win. 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 4: However you can take it. 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: But for some people they want to see a certain 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: fashion of win when it comes to the Seahawks. 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: Me personally, I look at to see him. 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: I go, look, mediocre offense, mediocre defense, you have a 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: quarterback who's figuring it out, got potential everywhere. So to 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: be at six and three at this point of the season, 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: I'm okay. 42 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 5: Well, at the beginning of the year, you would say 43 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: take that all day. We're tied for first place in 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: the NFC West. I don't think we thought San Francisco 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 5: would take a step back losing three games in a row. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: They ride the ship last week obviously against the Jaguars. 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 5: I actually thought we played pretty well last week. I 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: would even say really well last week. I didn't think 49 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 5: the score was indicative of how we controlled that game. 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: We gave up a couple of big plays, obviously defensively, 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: particularly in the fourth quarter, to two big drives that 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 5: you know, there was four plays and it wasn't scheme. 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: It wasn't that they were better than us. We dropped 54 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 5: coverage really three times, but two of them that really 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: hurt us. We had one drive where they got a 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 5: couple of matchups on us that weren't weren't perfect. 57 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 6: But I thought we played well. 58 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 5: I mean Gino Smith had a career high in passing 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 5: yards last week. I mean, who would even thunk that 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: at that point. So I thought we did a good 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: job protecting. We ran the ball well. So it was 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: it was a good win. This is not college football playoffs, right, 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: This is not the University of Washington having to have 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: style points against each team to make the final four. 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 5: This is just about wins, and this was a good 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: win for us. This is another game. I don't care 67 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 5: how we win it. We are better than the Rams. 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 5: They will talk a little bit more about them. They're 69 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 5: not a very good football team. That doesn't mean they're 70 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 5: an easy team. They scheme us. They've got good players, 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: but we're a better team than them if we go 72 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 5: out and play our kind of football. 73 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: You scared me right now. 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 6: I didn't mean to. 75 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: They're not a better football team, not but they can 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: outschem us. 77 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 6: Well, they can't. 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: That's the NFL though. That's the NFL, right it is that. 79 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: Look, you might not have the guys on the d 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: line to compete with the offensive line, but if you 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: have a coach I can add some wrinkles to the 82 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: game plan, it might throw you off a little bit. 83 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: So I think that's important because at six and three, 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: you listen to a lot of the people who watch 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: the Hawks and they're frustrated. 86 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: And you could be frustrated. 87 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: I'm not telling you not to feel what you feel, 88 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: but you got to understand that there's some smart coaches 89 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: on the other side. And there's only about fifteen hundred 90 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: players in this league. So the gap between the best 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: and the worst isn't very big. 92 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 6: No. 93 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 5: I mean, there's Carolina is probably one team he shouldn't 94 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: lose to. They're just they're they're in such a rebuild 95 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: mode with a rookie quarterback, he can't lose those games. 96 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: Every other game you got to go and play well. 97 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he turned the ball over three times and 98 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 5: don't get any from the other team. You're gonna lose 99 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: to a team that's got one or two wins in 100 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 5: this league, So you gotta go play well. The Rams 101 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 5: are tough because they do have very good players. I mean, 102 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: Stafford is, we could argue a potential Hall of Fame quarterback. 103 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 6: He played exceptionally well. 104 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: Versus US, you got Aaron Donald, who I still think 105 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 5: is you know, I don't know if he's the best 106 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 5: player in the league on defense, but I don't know 107 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 5: who's better than him. So there's a bunch of them 108 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: there in that and he's playing still at US incredibly 109 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 5: high level. So they've got guys. But they also have 110 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 5: fourteen rookies on their roster. All fourteen of their draft 111 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: picks made the team, you know, so most of them. 112 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: I think nine of them are fifth round and later, 113 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: so I think they were just trying to fill the roster, 114 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 5: lower the salary cap for them. But you know, I 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: think McVeigh is if he's not the best, he's one 116 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 5: of the very best in the NFL. At finding the 117 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: matchups He's always looking for the matchup and that always 118 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: makes me nervous because we usually in the pass to 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: play kind of a vanilla defense. We're not that same 120 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: defense anymore. We do more matchup zone defense. We do 121 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 5: different things in man to man. We don't play just 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 5: a four to three. You know, we have two down linemen. 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 5: We three four. I mean we mix a lot of 124 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: different formations in there too. 125 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: Something that stood out to me last week, DK Medcalf, 126 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett and js and combined for nineteen receptions two 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: hundred and forty three yards in one touchdown last week. 128 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: The best performers we've gotten out of these three man. 129 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: I think this is something that we've been looking forward to. 130 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: Jasin comes into the season, he gets banged up, breaks 131 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: his risks or a bone, and his risks after scoring 132 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: a touchdown in the preseason. You have DK lots of 133 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: targets and not a lot of receptions, and then you 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: have Tyler Lockett, who's mister consistent. If these three can 135 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: continue to play at this level, what does that mean? 136 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: Well, the thing I liked about last week is they 137 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: were productive, but we didn't lose. 138 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 6: Sight of our tight ends and our running backs. 139 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: Either. 140 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: So I thought from a balance standpoint, the way we 141 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 5: spread the ball around was one of our best this year. 142 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: And you're right, Look, we were an eleven personnel offense. Right, 143 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: it's one tight end, one running back, three wide receivers. 144 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: That's what we're going to feature. But we also saw 145 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: a lot of three tight ends in the game. We 146 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 5: saw a lot of two tight ends in the game. 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 5: They mixed it up a bunch. We actually saw a 148 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 5: couple checkdowns in the middle of the field. One went 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: for the big touchdown to DK and so I just 150 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 5: thought it was a really good game plan for us. 151 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: And I thought Gino played obviously in the second half, 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 5: particularly the fourth quarter, probably his best game. 153 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at Gino in the fourth quarter or just 154 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: the last two drives, right, go nine for ten, one touchdown, 155 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: you set up the game winning field goal. I don't 156 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: think people realize he has thirteen game winning drives in 157 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: sixty starts. 158 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty good. 159 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: I think the numbers come out to, what twenty seven 160 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: percent of the time, he's twenty one percent of the 161 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: time he's leading his team to a game winning drive. 162 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: What does that say about Gino? 163 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: Because I think that we look at Gino, and we 164 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: see him as a top ten pick. 165 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 4: For some reason. That's not what he was. 166 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: Second round pick, bad time with the Jets, and now 167 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: he's doing this thing here, not having the season that 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: he had last year, but he's still playing. 169 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: Some good football looks. 170 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 5: It's more of the touchdown to interception ratio. You know, 171 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: he had a you know, two or three game stretch 172 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: where you know, turn the ball over a few times. 173 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: That's not who Gino is though. You go and watch 174 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: some of his throws the first time we played the Rams, 175 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 5: you go, oh, man, he's really accurate. 176 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 6: I mean, he is an accurate thrower. 177 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: So I just felt like he got back on track. 178 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: And you know, for Gino, sometimes it's you know, do 179 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: I not turn it over? Do I, you know, try 180 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: and make the tough throw. You got to make tough 181 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 5: throws in a sleek you know. I mean, you can't 182 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 5: just always go back to pass and look to your left, 183 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 5: and sometimes you got to say that guy's covered. I 184 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: still got to make make the tough throw, and he's 185 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 5: more than capable of it. So I think he's kind 186 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 5: of balancing that out of don't turn it over, but 187 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: also I got to make some big time throws here. 188 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: You know, I think last week one of the things. 189 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 6: You know, there's a. 190 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 5: Lot of pauses in that game, and it's important we 191 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 5: had that right. You know, there's a few things it 192 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: will be interesting going into this week. 193 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 6: I have not seen this. 194 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: Last week, Washington targeted their tight ends and running backs 195 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: twenty one times and completed twenty of them twenty And 196 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: that's on our linebackers and safeties. And I guarantee that 197 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 5: McVeigh has seen that and he's gonna work that. And 198 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: if that is what is potentially our weakness and past defense, 199 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: we're gonna see more of that. 200 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: So I'm curious to see what the. 201 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 5: Rams do and more point, how we match up. 202 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Rams will do exactly that. The 203 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: last two stars that Matthew Starford has had, sixty seven 204 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: percent of his passes are ten yards in underneath, and 205 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: a lot of them are to the left and to 206 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: the right right outside. The number is something that you 207 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: wish the Hawks what forced the Niners. 208 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: To do when it comes to throwing the football. 209 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: But Matthew Stafford has all the tools to complete every 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: single throw. 211 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: So that's what concerns me a little bit. 212 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: We saw Pooka Nicola first week in the league, balls out, 213 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: and now you have Cooper Cup as well. Higbee the 214 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: tight end hasn't had the greatest season, but we know 215 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: the capabilities of him. So yeah, I mean it's gonna 216 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: be a good one. I'm excited to see exactly what 217 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: these guys do. 218 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, McVeigh. 219 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: Unlike the forty nine ers who just live inside the numbers, right, 220 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 5: McVeigh creates some really tough routes. I mean they're difficult routes, 221 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: and you know they will work outside the numbers a lot, 222 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 5: and and you know, certainly Stafford's capable of making those throws. 223 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 5: I love the matchup with their wide receivers and our 224 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: defensive backs. I think Trey Brown, Witherspoon, and Wooln are 225 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: the three best tandem. 226 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 6: Tandem is that the right word? 227 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 5: A trio of of corners in the league and they're 228 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: playing at a high level. So I'd love that matchup. 229 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 5: You know, we got no, no, don't don't. 230 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: Get too deep into the man, because I got we 231 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: gotta save some of that, all right. 232 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: Just coming up next, we're gonna dive into the Seahawks. 233 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: We can have an opponent that los Angeles Rams, where 234 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: Greg beats them from the ap That is next right 235 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: here on Hawks Live. 236 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 237 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, live on air on 238 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 239 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: What's so, What's up? 240 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 3: You're listening to Hawkslade presented by the Dining just That 241 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: Got the ballby Collection every Thursday. 242 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: Right here, Me and my guy Paul Moyer are doing 243 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: what we're doing right now. 244 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: We're joined by Greg beacham the Associated Press. 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: What's up? 246 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: Greg? 247 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: How you doing him good? 248 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 7: Paul has it going? 249 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: We're doing okay? Man? Where you know what? I got 250 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: to keep it one hundred with you, man. 251 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: Whenever we line up with the Rams, no matter what 252 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: the records are, no matter what the stats say, we 253 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: know it's going to be a good game. You guys 254 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: sitting at three and six? Is that the same feeling? 255 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 7: I think the Rams would be happy if it was 256 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 7: a good game at this point. They are having a 257 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 7: little more trouble than the Seahawks are at this point 258 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 7: in this season. And it's definitely a great rivalry. I 259 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 7: love these games. You know, there's a lot of crossover 260 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 7: on both teams. I mean everything from Bobby Wagner to Yakimasone, 261 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 7: Cooper Cup to everything in between. There's always a good 262 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 7: rivalry angle to this series. But I think the Seahawks 263 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 7: are in a little bit better for the season to 264 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 7: get a little revenge for Week one than the Rams 265 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 7: are to make it a season sweep. Let's put it 266 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 7: that way. 267 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: Well, rumor has it that Matthew Stafford is coming back. 268 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 6: It just is that what you're hearing or what we like. 269 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 7: He'll be back. Yeah, he'll be back and throwing in practice. 270 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 7: Unless he has a major setback in the next for 271 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 7: eight hours, he'll be in there. 272 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 6: All right. Well, everybody here's just cross our fingers. 273 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: He's gonna have a major setback because the last time 274 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 5: we played him, he really was unbelievable, made some amazing throws. 275 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 5: We know what kind of quarterback he is. We didn't 276 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: have Cup the last time we played, but we didn't 277 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: have Witherspoon. 278 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 6: Look, they give us problem, they give us problems. 279 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 5: But the one thing I do see offensively that even 280 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: in the Packer game, man, the offensive line just looks 281 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,119 Speaker 5: like they're struggling. 282 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 6: What's going on with that? 283 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 7: You're one hundred percent correct it's a it's a lot 284 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 7: on the tackles to the middle of the line is 285 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 7: fairly strong. All these because there they got a couple 286 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 7: of pretty good guard Steve ab Aloud, that rookie is 287 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 7: looking really good, has n't come off the field at 288 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 7: all this season. Kevin Dotson's been playing great since they 289 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 7: picked him up from Pittsburgh, and Coleman Shelton the pretty 290 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 7: good center. The tackles are the problem, and that's where 291 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 7: the Seahawks have the best chance to exploit what what 292 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 7: the Rams do wrong. They've got Aleric Jackson a left 293 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 7: tackle because he beat out Joe Noteboom, who is the 294 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 7: guy they're paying to be their left tackle in training camp, 295 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 7: and Alaric's he obviously knows what he's doing, but I 296 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 7: don't think anybody would would argue that he's an elite 297 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 7: left tackle at this point. And at right tackle, they've 298 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 7: got Rob Havenstein venturing the you know, the longest serving 299 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 7: guy there on the line, but he has been pobably injury. 300 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 7: He missed the game in uh in Green Bay, and 301 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 7: you could see that, you know, with the guys they 302 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 7: used to replace him, it didn't go so well. And 303 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 7: he's supposed to come back this week. He has been 304 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 7: limited in practice, though a little bit less practicing than 305 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 7: we thought would get from him. But he's supposed to 306 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 7: come back. If he does, you know, he's he's a 307 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 7: competent left tackle. But if he's less than one hundred percent, 308 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 7: or if they have to use somebody else, that's that's 309 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 7: the place for the Seahawks to pounce. And that's the 310 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 7: that's the biggest weakness in this rams off right now. 311 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 7: You're absolutely correct, Greg. 312 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm a former receiver, so I love some receiver play. 313 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: Minus week one, you open a week one Pooka Nicola 314 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: says like, don't forget about me, fifth round draft pick. 315 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: B y you you dub. 316 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: He's got me all concerned, man, But he's continued to 317 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: be productive. Man, Is this what you expected out of Pooka? 318 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: I mean all of the sad because no one was 319 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: ready for this. 320 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 7: I don't think anyone expected this out of Pookah, including Puka. 321 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's been remarkable the impact he's had 322 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 7: on this offense in his first opportunity. And part of 323 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 7: that is a credit to playing, you know, with Matthew Stafford, 324 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 7: who is an excellent quarterback who can get to the 325 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 7: ball all day long when he's healthy, and he has 326 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 7: an offensive line that can keep him off his back. 327 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 7: And part of it the credit to play in for 328 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 7: Sean McVay, who can dial up all sorts of stuff 329 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 7: to torment a defense, to make the most of a 330 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 7: guy's skill set. Cooper Cup's entire career as a testament 331 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 7: to da Cooper is a great receiver, but he would 332 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 7: he would be the first to say that he's a 333 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 7: better receiver because Sean McVay has been called plays for 334 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 7: him for six years. But having said that, Puoka, you know, 335 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 7: has demonstrated his own ability and things that he can 336 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 7: do that I don't think anybody really knew when they 337 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 7: drafted him. He was the last receiver drafted in the 338 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 7: fifth round of the draft. He was he was the 339 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 7: twentieth receiver overall in the draft. The final pick of 340 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 7: the fifth round is just is mind bogging at this 341 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: point considering what he's shown out there on the field. 342 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 7: Having said that, he's played a little less, little less 343 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 7: impactful the previous two weeks before the buye he is 344 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 7: not one hundred percent. He's been beating up a little bit. 345 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 7: Sean talked about that earlier this week. How just the 346 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 7: cumulative you know, bumps and bruises of an NFL season, 347 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 7: particularly when you're a rookie of the high profile now 348 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 7: where everybody's looking to get a lick on you, everybody's 349 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 7: looking to make a statement against you when they when 350 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 7: they line up against you a one on one coverage. 351 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 7: And he only has three catches in each of the 352 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 7: last two games, so he's going to have to find 353 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 7: dig down deep inside and find find, you know, the 354 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 7: way to finish a seventeen game season strong, which is 355 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 7: tough for any rookie. It's tough for Puka, especially because 356 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 7: you know this is just coming from from something to 357 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 7: nothing and nothing to something. And once he gets out 358 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 7: there and can show what he can do down the stretch, 359 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 7: that's when you really prove yourself and separate yourself as 360 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 7: a player. So I'll be I'll be really curious see 361 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 7: how he does. And this is this last eight game 362 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: stretch of the season. But it's been tremendous so far. 363 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 7: It's been really fun to watch. 364 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: Well stay on the offensive side. And an interesting storyline 365 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: is the Seahawks just signed Brett Ripponrett Brett Rippon, who 366 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 5: was a starting quarterback the last time the Rams played, 367 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 5: which was two weeks ago, they had a bye week, 368 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: and I'm to be honest, I go, I watched the game, 369 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: and man, you know, the offensive line really struggled, struggled 370 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 5: against the Packers, and Brett had a couple bad plays, 371 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: But by no means was that loss on him. One 372 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 5: were you surprised that happened? And two were even more 373 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: surprised and had that whole thing went down with Carson 374 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 5: Wentz now being the backup quarterback for the Rams, I. 375 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 7: Wasn't too surprised because they didn't go into this season 376 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 7: expecting Brett Rippan to be that to be their QB two. 377 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 7: They thought stets Of Bennett was going to be their 378 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 7: QB two, and they'd spent the entire offseason preparing Stetson 379 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 7: for that role. And Brett was, you know, a guy 380 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 7: who was going to come in and help out, be 381 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 7: the third arm in practice and maybe you know, get 382 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 7: an opportunity down the road in garbage time or if 383 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 7: they had that one of the quarterbacks got injured or something, 384 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 7: he would move up. So, you know, Stepson has not 385 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 7: been able to play this year. He's he's away from 386 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 7: the team and he's probably not going to play this year. 387 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 7: And the way Sean explained their decision to only go 388 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 7: with Matthew Stafford and Brett Rippen was that they felt 389 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 7: like they needed to use the roster spot on other 390 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 7: holes in the roster, and to be fair, this roster 391 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 7: does have a lot of holes after everything they did 392 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 7: in the offseason, so that that's why he did that. 393 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 7: And then they got caught in a situation where Matthew 394 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 7: got hurt. You could argue that they should have thought 395 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 7: of that since Matthew missed half of last season and 396 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 7: they got an offensive line that is probably not going 397 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 7: to keep any quarterback healthy for an entire year. That 398 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 7: wasn't too hard to see. But having said that, they 399 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 7: ended up having to play Brett. They thought they would 400 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 7: go into that game, you know, right before the buy 401 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 7: in Green Bay, it's going to be raining, it's going 402 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 7: to be miserable. Nobody's going to really show out in 403 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 7: that game unless they're really special. And I think they 404 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 7: just thought they'd see what they could do with Brett, 405 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 7: and it didn't go well at all. You know, he's 406 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 7: he's in the rain, he's fumbling the ball. It's tough. 407 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 7: And not to say that he's not a compotit quarterback, 408 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 7: because he absolutely is. But that's just a really tough 409 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 7: situation to go into, you know, and make your first 410 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 7: significant playing time of the year. And you know, Carson 411 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 7: Wentz was a guy who was available, and I think, 412 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 7: I think, I think it was a good match between 413 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 7: the two of them because you know, he's halfway through 414 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 7: the NFL season. Now, you don't want to sit out 415 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 7: an entire season, if you're still serious about being a 416 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 7: football player, you don't want to take a year off 417 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 7: and try to come back. And the Rams offered himself. 418 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 7: I mean, if you could, you could say, you know, 419 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 7: maybe you're hung aroun a little bit longer. The Cleveland 420 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 7: Browns might have come knocking, But you don't know that 421 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 7: for sure. You don't know what situation it would be. 422 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 7: And he took an opportunity to take the same deal 423 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 7: that you know, Baker Mayfield took. The other quarterbacks have 424 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: come in here and proven that they can do stuff, 425 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 7: and Sean McVay has been has been a good a 426 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 7: good co worker for quarterbacks in order to maximize their potential. 427 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 7: Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford. You know Baker Mayfield, and I 428 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 7: think Carson Wentz saw this as an opportunity that he 429 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 7: could he could stay relevant and know that he's one 430 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 7: hit away from playing again with with some pretty good 431 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 7: receivers on this on this Rams team. So I don't 432 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 7: blame him for taking it. I kind of fault the 433 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 7: Rams for waiting so long to find a backup poor 434 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 7: But now that they've done it, I think they're in 435 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 7: a better position to go forward for the final eight games. 436 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: All right, Greg, we got about thirty seconds here. I 437 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: just want to ask you, like, what do you think 438 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: is the advantage the Rams have on the seahoffs. So 439 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: you look at the numbers, look at the personnel, you say, look, 440 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: this should be. 441 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: A good game. 442 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: We expect it to be a good game. But where 443 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: is the advantage for the Rams? 444 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 7: Most games this season and this one is no exception. 445 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 7: I think the Rams have to score a ton of 446 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 7: points to win. I think they should put up a 447 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 7: bunch of points. That defense is trying really hard, but 448 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 7: they are seriously under talented given all the personnel changes 449 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 7: they made and the people that they chose to put 450 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 7: in there. So I think I think the Rams have 451 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: an advantage of Stafford is healthy. I think they if 452 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 7: they can keep him up right, if they can keep 453 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 7: a big cat off him, if they can keep the 454 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 7: rest of the pass rush off him, I think I 455 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 7: think they have a chance to throw the ball down 456 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 7: the field. You know, get Hoo, can involved, get Cooper Cup, 457 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 7: put up a big game. They got some decent running 458 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 7: game here and there in the last few weeks. If 459 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 7: they can score a bunch of points and make it 460 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 7: a close game down the stretch, they have a chance 461 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 7: to pull one out. Otherwise, if the Seahawks can get 462 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 7: on top early, if Seahawks get out of ahead and 463 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 7: start playing with the lead, it's gonna be rough there 464 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 7: for the boys and the horned helmet. 465 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: All right, Greg, we know how this goes, though. I'll 466 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 3: just expect to clas all right, man, we appreciate your time, Bro. 467 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 7: You have a good day, take care of a good night, 468 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 7: all right. 469 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: All right, that's Greg Beacham the A p A. 470 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: Come join us here at Hawk's Live at Bellby Square 471 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: Center Court. You have a chance to win gift cards 472 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: from the Dining District at the Bellby Collection. 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Thanks for 487 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 8: having me. 488 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 4: On, man, thanks for joining us. Man. 489 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: We had you here live last year and a lot 490 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: is changed in your life since then. Man, I believe 491 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: you're married. Now you've you've been playing a lot of golf. 492 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: What's that handicap like these days? 493 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 8: Man, Well, these days it's not as good as it 494 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 8: was over the summer. It got her down to a 495 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 8: seven seven this offseason, which is my career. 496 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: Love, so ended on a high note. 497 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: No congratulations. 498 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: I'm that one guy who follows you on all of 499 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 5: your social media on x and Instagram, and I'm just jealous. 500 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: I saw you down at Pebble Beach and you were 501 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: traveling pretty much the country, playing every single golf of 502 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 5: course you could. So we'll stay on the golf park 503 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 5: because the last time we had you on you said 504 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: at the time you could not beat your fiance who 505 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: she played by the way at Alabama. 506 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 6: She was a. 507 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: Golfer, and now you're married. Congratulations, Thank you very much. 508 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 5: Have you beat her yet in golf? 509 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 8: I have not. Unfortunately, I know I've gotten close, but 510 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 8: it seems like even when it's close, I always end 511 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 8: up losing by at least one. So maybe one of 512 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 8: these days I'll I'll finally beat here. 513 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 5: You're gonna start having to yell on her backswing or something. 514 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 8: Oh man, I do everything I can't shake. 515 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: We were actually talking about you over dinner, Kobe and 516 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: uh morigos Man, it'd be tough to have a wife 517 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 3: who plays golf and I go what you know, you 518 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: get get tips and lessons, but she might have to 519 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: ride in the other golf court every now and then 520 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: because I don't. 521 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to ride whatever 522 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 4: she's beat me. But uh, let's talk some football, man. 523 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are six and three, the same 524 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: spot you guys were in last year and have overcome 525 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: a lot. 526 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: Man. And when I think of this team, I think 527 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: of resiliency. 528 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: When you think of this team and you describe this 529 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: team to someone who hasn't seen you guys play, like, how. 530 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 4: Would you do that? 531 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? I like the word resiliency. Like you said, you know, 532 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 8: there's no quit who had definitely been Uh, it's been close. 533 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 8: It feels like every game, you know, and we went 534 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 8: back against the wall and it's a two minute draft 535 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 8: to win the game. We don't get, you know, any 536 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 8: doubt in our mind and we just go out there 537 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 8: and do our thing and win the game. 538 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: Colby, you guys have so much talent, uh, you know, 539 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: at the receiver position, at the tight end position, at 540 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: the running back position. Man, you can't get all of 541 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: them in at at the same time obviously, and you know, 542 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: fighting for you know, personnel groupings. 543 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 6: And playing time. 544 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 5: How is that? 545 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 6: I mean, is that frustrating? 546 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: I mean you guys, are you guys still a pretty 547 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 5: cohesive group? 548 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 9: Uh? 549 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we're all very supportive of each other. 550 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 8: You know, there's a ton of playmakers on the team 551 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 8: and we all want to get our chance to you know, 552 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 8: catch the ball and do something with it. But more 553 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 8: importantly than that, we want to win the game. And 554 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 8: I think that's a common thread amongst the entire team, 555 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 8: and that leads to successful cohesive units. 556 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: How's it been for the the tight end group being 557 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 3: run blockers? Now, you're typically a run blocker on the 558 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: edge of the line of scrimmers, but there's some times 559 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: where we see two tight ends in the backfield. You 560 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: guys emotioning and I would I would assume trying to 561 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 3: decipher man or zone. Just what's that like for you, 562 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: because I doubt you did those type of schemes in college. 563 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, Shane draws up a lot of cool ways to 564 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 8: use this in the run game, and it's it's fun. 565 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 8: You know, it's cool being moved around a lot, and 566 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 8: you know, presenting different looks to the defense and makes 567 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 8: it tough for them to decipher what we're doing, and 568 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 8: it leads to a lot of good opportunities for us 569 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 8: to you know, break canner zak or DJ loose and 570 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 8: you know, get some big games. 571 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: You guys, you guys play next week on Thursday Night 572 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: against the forty nine ers, and you'll play them again 573 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 5: a few weeks later, which is different in how you 574 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: guys game plan. But you had the Rams literally nine 575 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: weeks ago with the buye. How much different are they 576 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 5: and how much different is the game plan? And you 577 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 5: don't have to get specifics, but just going into this game. 578 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 8: Uh yeah, you know, we were also a very different 579 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 8: offense and we we're a week one. You know, I 580 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 8: don't think we came out to start of the season 581 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 8: the way we wanted to. So going into this game, 582 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 8: you know where I think we're starting to kind of 583 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 8: you know, figure out and hit our stride as an offense, 584 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 8: and that's gonna lead to a lot of success, I 585 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 8: believe on Sunday, you know, I think we're still searching, 586 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 8: you know, for the perfect game where we're clicking on 587 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 8: all cylinders. We've had glimpses of it on different drives 588 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 8: within a game, and now we're just trying to put 589 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 8: it all together. 590 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: Kolobe, this could have an easy answer, but you know 591 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: I've been associated with the Hawks is eight. My guy 592 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: Moyer has been here a little before me, and no 593 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 3: matter how you put it, the Rams always give the 594 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: Seahawks some trouble, right. Is that something that you guys 595 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: talk about out or knowledge or are you just focused 596 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: on the day and know where they pay attention to 597 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 3: all that noise? 598 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we can't really focus on what's happened 599 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 8: in years past. Let we just take it one game 600 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 8: at a time, and like Pete always says, it's all 601 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 8: about us. You know, we control the outcome of the game. 602 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 8: Obviously they're going to make their plays, but if we 603 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 8: play well, we don't think anyone can sern it our way. 604 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 5: You mentioned that you guys are still searching for that 605 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: perfect game. What does that look like from your offense 606 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 5: and what you guys are trying to do. 607 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's mitigating a lot of negative plays. 608 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 8: I think we've had a lot of penalties and and 609 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 8: portion poor timing, you know, where it knocks us back 610 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 8: into a you know, first and long second along where 611 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 8: we're on our fields already and not stalling. You know, 612 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 8: I think we have. We've had a couple of three 613 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 8: and outs and that's just that's across the board. Accountability. 614 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 8: You know, we all got to be better, We got 615 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 8: to execute better, do our job better. And I think 616 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 8: if you get rid of those uh you know, in 617 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 8: tours the middle of the game, I think we'll be 618 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 8: able to, you know, put up a lot more points 619 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 8: and have some more success. 620 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: Hey Kolby, there was a personnel package when I was playing. 621 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: When they threw up the E, I knew that I 622 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 4: was in the game, right extra receiver. 623 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: Now you guys have a thirteen personnel group where all 624 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 3: you guys are out there at one time. What's that like? 625 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: Do you guys talk about that? Do you get excited 626 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: when you when you hear the personnel group? You guys 627 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: run out there or are there? Or is it just 628 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: a business as usual let's go get it. 629 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 8: No, it's exciting. You know. I love when we're all 630 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 8: out there together, especially when you know we can one 631 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 8: of us catches the ball and all three of us 632 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 8: are on the field. It's fun and we're able to 633 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 8: celebrate each other out there. It's definitely cool experience, and 634 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 8: you know, we want more thirteen plays, so we're excited 635 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 8: to make the ones that we get work and hopefully 636 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 8: get more in the next week. 637 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 5: Well, as we mentioned last time we talked with you 638 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 5: last year, you were engaged now you've been out here 639 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 5: a couple of years. 640 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: Now you're mayor worried. 641 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 5: What's uh, what's life like that for you? 642 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 6: Has it changed? 643 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 5: Particularly on your downtime after you get home from practice. 644 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 8: It's amazing. You know, my wife is awesome. I'm so 645 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 8: thankful to be able to come home to her every 646 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 8: day and you know, look forward to that after a 647 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 8: long day at the office, you know, body sore or whatever. 648 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 8: It's it's great to be able to come home and 649 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 8: reset and have a have a nice perspective on life 650 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 8: on football. And she helps reset that a lot and 651 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 8: focus on the Lord and you know what's important to us. 652 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 6: Amen to that. 653 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 5: And you know there's a lot of top golf places 654 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: around here. Uh, do you guys get a chance at 655 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 5: all to go hit a few golf balls or you know, 656 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 5: just to get a little bit of your swing and 657 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: keep that in the rhythm. 658 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: We try to. 659 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 8: We actually have a simulator in the or in the 660 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 8: place where we're living, and it's not it's not mine. 661 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 8: Don't worry. 662 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 10: Okay, twenty five on a on a golf simulator yet, 663 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 10: but we're able to swing swing every now and then, 664 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 10: and it's nice to be able to share that together. 665 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 3: What's it like for you the second year in the league. 666 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: There's a obviously you have three teams that you're gonna 667 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: play twice a year. I know when I play, you 668 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: build a kind of relationships with the guys that you're 669 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: playing against. 670 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: Have you developed any. 671 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: Of those relationships, like a guy like, all right, there's 672 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: a d M. There's an outside backer that I'm going 673 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: to go up against. We talk a little crap every 674 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: now and then. You have those relationships or you kind 675 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: of just. 676 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: Run the play, get to the huddle, you know. 677 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 8: I definitely you know, you played these guys, like you said, 678 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 8: twice here, so you know here you're going up against 679 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 8: you know, all right, this is rams week. You know 680 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 8: they're gonna run a three four the fifty one penny, 681 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 8: like you know exactly what to expect, and you definitely 682 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 8: know the personnel pretty well too. So it's fun being 683 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 8: able to play them, you know, twice a year, and 684 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 8: we'll have to get them back for a week one. 685 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 5: Kobe, it's amazing. There's eight games left in the season. 686 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: You know, collweg has got two games in the regular 687 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 5: season left. 688 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 6: How's your body feeling. 689 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm hanging in. They're doing doing pretty good for 690 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 8: this time of the year. You know, it's a long season. 691 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 8: Like you said, we're only halfway, which is pretty crazy. 692 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 8: But body's feeling good and you know, I'm ready to 693 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 8: tackle this weekend, ready to get after it. 694 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: All right, Colby, Man, we appreciate your time. 695 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: You're a newlywed. 696 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: Moawyer's got about thirty years in the game, four thirty four. 697 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: I got like fifteen in the game. So enjoy the ride. Brother, man. 698 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: It's going to beautiful. 699 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: Man. We appreciate you time. 700 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 8: Awesome, Thank you so much, guys, I really appreciate it. 701 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: God bless all right. 702 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: That was Colby Parkinson. When we return, Man, we'll go 703 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: around the NFL. What's going down. We have a Thursday 704 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: night football game. Baltimore Ravens are up twenty four to 705 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: thirteen over the Bengals. We'll talk about that and more. 706 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: That's next right here on Hawks Live. 707 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 708 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court Live on air on 709 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: Seattle's Sport. 710 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: Welcome Back to Hawks Slide presented by the Dining Just 711 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: You Got the Belvy Collection On Michael Bumbas with Paul 712 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: Moyer every Thursday right here and see how to sport 713 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: sevent ten. 714 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 4: We'll be doing our thing from Belvy Square Center Court. 715 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: Now it's time to go around the NFL and just 716 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: an update. Ravens are up twenty seven to thirteen against 717 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals in the third quarter. 718 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: It's about to come to an end. This is a 719 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: weird The. 720 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: NFC North, our AFC North is a weird thing going 721 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: on right there right because the Hawks, they beat the Browns, 722 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: lose to the Bengals, lose to the Ravens. Ravens are 723 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: about to beat the Bengals, and the Bengals beat the Ravens. 724 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: I want to say last week, there's a lot going 725 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: on over there. That's why I don't like people saying, well, 726 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: they beat them, and they beat them, so we should 727 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: be fine. 728 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: No, this NFL, you gotta show up. Ye. 729 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 5: The NFL is again. It's a hard game. There's a 730 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: lot of smart coaches. You know, they're going to force 731 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 5: you to do things you don't want to do eventually, 732 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 5: and that's why you can go and beat Baltimore, beat 733 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: US thirty seven to three, and then lose the following 734 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 5: week and then come back and look really good. Now, 735 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 5: the one thing, Joe Burrow looks like he either broke 736 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: his hand. 737 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, or it's terrible bruise. 738 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: I mean, his hand was swollen and he ended up 739 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 5: going into the locker room. He I mean, he couldn't 740 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: throw a football anymore. I thought it initially. I thought 741 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 5: he grabbed his forearm, which a lot of times is 742 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 5: that elbow in UCL Yeah, thank you, But hopefully it's 743 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 5: just a bad bruise because without him, you know, Cincinnati's done. 744 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough man. He's already battled back from a 745 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: calf injury. And then as soon he gets healthy. As 746 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: he gets healthy, the team looks good. And then it 747 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: hurts to see him go down that way. Something happened 748 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: this week got the Bills take a loss. Yeah, and 749 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: the offense looks okay minus the quarterback turning the football 750 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: over like crazy, and they had a chance to win 751 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 3: this ball game against the Denver Broncos. And then Denver 752 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: kicks the field goal. They push it to the right, 753 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: kind of like what my drive looks like off the 754 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: T box. 755 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 756 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: Half of the time, Mulligan, you know, Mully lineupta. So 757 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: then they get an opportunity to do it again because. 758 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 4: They are twelve men on the field. 759 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: Broncos kick the field goal game over, Broncos win. 760 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: In my head, I'm thinking. 761 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: Oh, special teams guys fired, No, sir, offensive coordinator was fired. 762 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 4: What do you think about that situation? 763 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: Well, my first thing is they're head coach McDermott. I'm 764 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 5: thinking he should be fired. I go, you're the one 765 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 5: responsible for that. And here's another thing, what are you doing? 766 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: Denver did not call a time out right, and so 767 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: they they schemed them hard, and they knew they had 768 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 5: enough time. Their offense ran off the field, got the 769 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: special team or field goal team ready, they run on 770 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 5: the field. That's a substitution you're allowed to match and 771 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 5: at that point too, but with that much time, make 772 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 5: kip your defense out there. You're not even bringing in 773 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 5: that many different people. That is such a I mean, god, 774 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 5: they bought this. 775 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: This was his explanation. They said they were in a 776 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: dime package. So then when you bring on the field 777 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 3: goal team, there's a substitution that needs to happen, which 778 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 3: makes sense because I have two extra dbs out there. 779 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 3: But he said himself they practice that situation and did 780 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: not execute in that moment. 781 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 6: So whose fault is that? 782 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: It's always on the head, it's the head coach. 783 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 5: I'm going to fire the offensive coordinator. Look, it's obviously 784 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 5: wasn't one game. Josh Allen's not playing well. He's turning 785 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 5: the ball over a bunch. I mean that was you know, 786 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 5: he's having a bit of his hot college flashback. We 787 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 5: wasn't that accurate turn the ball over. We knew he's 788 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 5: really a phenomenal athlete with an unbelievable arm. You feel 789 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 5: like they're five and five or many of the five 790 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 5: and four, whatever the wreck it is. 791 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 6: It's not what everybody thought. 792 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 5: That's a really talented football team, particularly offensive, and they 793 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 5: got skilled positions off the board. You know, you're talking 794 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 5: about one of the top three, you know five, I 795 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 5: guess quarterbacks in the NFL. McDermott. You know, he pulled 796 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: the trigger quick. You know, I've come from people that said, hey, 797 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 5: you spend a long time hiring and you're quick to fire, 798 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 5: you know, because if you waste time, if it's not 799 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 5: the right person, don't waste time on that. Get rid 800 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 5: of him. And he maybe he just felt he wasn't the. 801 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 4: Right guy felt that pressure? 802 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like the pressure USC felt after they 803 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: lost the game. He has to get rid of their 804 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. And then I go, look, they still going 805 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: and give up forty points of games when he's out 806 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: of here. Might as well let him finish the season. 807 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: But that's the pressure people get, right. They want to 808 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: see changes made. So you find the lowest man on 809 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 3: the totem pole probably and say, look, all. 810 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: Right, we're gonna get rid of him. All right. 811 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: There's a situation going on in Minnesota which I'm really 812 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: impressed by. 813 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs has. 814 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: Taken over that team and kept the Minnesota Vikings in contention. 815 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 4: Now, I've never. 816 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 3: Been traded or anything like that when it comes to 817 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: the NFL, and I feel like as a receiver it's 818 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 3: a bit easier to hop into an offense and say, okay, QB, 819 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: what I got. I got a post? Okay, I'll run 820 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 3: that post. As a quarterback, you got to know what 821 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: everyone's doing. You got to be able to protect yourself 822 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: on the offensive line, put your running back in the 823 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: right position, and then go through your progressions. When it 824 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: comes to throwing the football, I'm talking about Josh Dobbs 825 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 3: over there. Now, I know he is a rocket scientist, 826 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: yes she is, and he's one of the smartest men 827 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: in the NFL. But that still makes what he's done 828 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 3: with the Minnesota Vikings impressive. 829 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 11: Yeah. 830 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I've read some things that you 831 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 5: know he's got a borderline photographic memory too. And you know, look, 832 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 5: you're in the league. You know what an offense is, right, 833 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: I mean, he called play. There's only so many things 834 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 5: you can do, but you got to know what everybody's doing. 835 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the hard part for the quarterback. I've 836 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 5: been in a situation, the toughest situation I've ever been 837 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 5: in is my last year coaching, and I was in 838 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 5: the meeting room. It was our last game of the season. 839 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 5: We're playing Cleveland in Cleveland, so we got to travel early. 840 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 5: We got a flat on a Friday. The eight guys 841 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 5: I had that started the season as defensive backs, every 842 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 5: single one of them. 843 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 6: Was on IR. 844 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 5: I had sixteen guys in the room in the meeting 845 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 5: room because you had to still go to the meeting sixteen. 846 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 5: I mean, it was crazy. I brought three guys in 847 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 5: on Wednesday, and I did not know I literally I 848 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 5: was on the phone. One of our other guys who 849 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 5: had been with us for a couple weeks got hurt. 850 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 5: So I now had to put in the guy who 851 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 5: came in on Wednesday. I go, hey, put so and 852 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 5: so number thirty thirty two. I mean, I didn't know. 853 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 5: And then we're trying to run a blitz and he 854 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 5: doesn't know the blitz, and so now we're like, okay, 855 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 5: we can't blitz. 856 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 6: We can really run two coverages. 857 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 5: And Claire Farnsworth, you remember Claire Farnes were a long 858 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 5: time sports. 859 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 6: Beat writer for the for the Seahawks. 860 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: He remembers me running in the locker room and I 861 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 5: didn't remember the names of two of the guys that go, hey, 862 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 5: you and you come with me because I needed to 863 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 5: try to coach him up before practice. 864 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: Huh yeah, I was. Uh that was wild. 865 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 5: And and how do you think that game went? 866 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 4: Probably lost? 867 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 6: Not very well. 868 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 4: It was pretty bad. 869 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 6: Impressive. 870 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 5: Now, the other part of the story is the Broncos 871 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: are playing them. The Broncos have what won two three 872 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 5: games in a row as now they're they're in the playoff, 873 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 5: and even though they look horrible, they had no business 874 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: even being in the game with Buffalo. 875 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 6: Buffalo gave it to him. 876 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: Why not? 877 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 5: They just they look horrible. But you know, Russell's playing 878 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 5: pretty well. He's got eighteen touchdowns, you know, four interceptions. Uh, 879 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 5: that one pass, I mean, I don't know whether he 880 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 5: meant to throw it there. 881 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 6: I don't know. 882 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 5: It was a greater catch than it was to that spot. 883 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just saying it was an incredible catch. 884 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 4: You sound like a hater right now. 885 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 5: No, No, it was an incredible catch. And he's doing 886 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 5: his little flip stuff. No, he played well. The team 887 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 5: didn't play well. That the Denver is not a good 888 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 5: football team. No, but now you're playing Minnesota with Joshua Dobbs. 889 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 5: At some point, the Cinderella story probably ends. 890 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: All right, So what's the bigger story, Russell Wilson extending 891 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: that streak to four wins over Dobbs or Dobbs continuing 892 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 3: the Cinderella story. 893 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 5: Probably well for for us up here, probably Denver, for 894 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 5: the national media, probably Dobbs. I don't think we're haters, 895 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 5: but I'm certainly not rooting for Denver. 896 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 4: I'm not a hater. 897 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 6: No, but are you rooting for him? 898 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 4: You sound like are you? 899 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 6: But are you rooting for him? 900 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: I did the other night. 901 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 6: Are you rooting for him? 902 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: I did? Yeah, I root for Russell? Are you right now? 903 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: Now that there's nothing, we're not tied in any way anyway, 904 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 3: I'll root. 905 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 4: For Russell all right. Yeah, he's been humbled, he hasn't 906 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 4: been humble. That's why I root for him. Now, if 907 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: you have success over there, i'd be a hater just 908 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 4: like like me. I'll just play with you. 909 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: Hey, man, come join us here at Hawks Live at 910 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: Belvy Squares in the court. You have a chance to 911 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: win gift cars from the dining district at the Bellby 912 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: collection tonight they're giving away gift cars. The Duke, Seafood 913 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 3: and the lake House. You had the case Adilla, No, 914 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 3: that was Nasa, Nasa. 915 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 6: It was really good. What did I have that? 916 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 5: Oh? 917 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 6: I know it. 918 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 5: I had the prawns and then the deviled eggs, and 919 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 5: then I had the burger. 920 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 6: But I didn't eat the burger. But I ate all 921 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 6: your guys just leftover. 922 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: All our leftovers. Yeah, I'm basic bacon cheeseburger right here 923 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 3: for your boy. 924 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 4: Don't do seafood all right? 925 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 3: When we return, we will uh Man live and in person. 926 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: Cam Young the rookie will be here. That's next right 927 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: here on Hawk's Live. 928 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 929 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven 930 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports No. If 931 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: you're your host, Michael Buffis Paul Moyer. 932 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 3: Listening to the Hawks Live Michael bumpas with Paul moy. 933 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 4: Every Thursday right here l Square Center. 934 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 3: Court, presented by the Dining District, and we're joined by 935 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 3: the young Men, Cam Young. 936 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 4: How you doing, Ca? 937 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 11: I'm thanks. 938 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: We always appreciate you guys hanging out with us because 939 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 3: on a Thursday you can be doing a lot of things, recovery, 940 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 3: just laying up Netflix, video games. 941 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 4: You a video game guy. 942 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 11: A little bit. I kind of got into video games 943 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 11: when were younger, so I still stick around with. 944 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 4: A little bit. You get that new call of duty yet? 945 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 6: Nah? 946 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? My son sticking to man and two K. 947 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: My son trying to He's like, Dad, I gotta get 948 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 3: the new call of duty that goo man take up 949 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 3: the trash. 950 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 4: Couple of time you might be able to hearn that, 951 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So I gotta earn it. 952 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 6: Man. 953 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 3: So you're from Mississippi, man, I got I got family 954 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 3: from Mississippi and we're talking off air. Uh, what is 955 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 3: it about the Mississippi player? Because I can talk about 956 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: Callie it's finesse. You know, we put out quarterbacks, receivers, dbs, 957 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: but down in the South many y'all put them big 958 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 3: boys out And what is it about football down there? 959 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 11: I think there's the toughness in general. You know, a 960 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 11: Mississippi person is at a naturally tough person. You know, 961 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 11: guys are naturally big out there. 962 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 4: Due to the food. 963 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 11: Of course, we do a lot of hard label, so 964 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 11: pretty strong. So that's mostly what a Missisi player A 965 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 11: little like that. 966 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 5: Well, and we were talking, there's quite a few Seahawks 967 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 5: that grew up in Mississippi. I mean, kJ we had 968 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 5: Derek call earlier. Who's the other one, Oh, Jared Reed? Yeah, 969 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 5: that's pretty good, mephic. Jared went to a junior college. 970 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 5: And I was reading your ear bio that you almost 971 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 5: went to a junior college, but Mississippi State came maybe 972 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 5: late uh and offered you a scholarship. Talk about just 973 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 5: that process out of high school. 974 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, actually the Mississippi State off me in ten grade. 975 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 11: I wanted to commit there, but Damn Mully had signed 976 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 11: went to Florida, so I kind of opened my recruiting 977 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 11: process back up. Still wanted to go to Missippi State. 978 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 11: I kind of wanted to get recruited again by the 979 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 11: new coach that came in, Coach more Head. So I 980 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 11: told them that I'll be willing to go juco and 981 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 11: just to get a whole recruiting process with them again. 982 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 11: And like, I took an official visit another with more Head, 983 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 11: so I kind of fell in love with the school 984 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 11: all over again and decided to go there. 985 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 3: So you can call a penalty on every play in 986 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 3: football if you really wanted to. It's always penalties, right. 987 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: I would imagine you get held a lot by every 988 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: place every play. 989 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 4: Right, it's just either they catched or now. 990 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: So when you're being held profusely, do you say something 991 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 3: to the rest? You talk to the player first, like 992 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: what's your approach with that? 993 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 2: Uh? 994 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 11: You know I used to talk to the rest, but 995 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 11: your coach will say it's your fault for letting them 996 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 11: hold you. So nah, I just threw my best. It 997 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 11: just kind of create thatseulf brace. 998 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 6: Yep. 999 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,919 Speaker 5: We used to say the same thing coaches said, hey, man, 1000 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 5: if you're getting hell, that's your fault. 1001 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, violidenough you you get. 1002 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 5: Their hands out or you make sure the rest are 1003 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 5: actually call that. When Seahawks called your name, did you 1004 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 5: have contact with them leading up in the draft. Did 1005 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 5: you have a pretty good idea of where you might go? 1006 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 7: Uh? 1007 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 11: Yeah, I had a pretty good extensive draft process, so 1008 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 11: you know, I went to the Senior Bowl, kind of 1009 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 11: talked to the Seahawks. Then just like we just hit 1010 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 11: it off right away. So this was one of the 1011 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 11: places that I wanted to be, And when I got 1012 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 11: that call, they just like a dream come true. 1013 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 5: What was your strength in college? And then when you're here, 1014 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 5: was there something they wanted you to do different? Or 1015 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 5: they say, now this is the tide of player I 1016 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 5: want you to be. 1017 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 11: Right In college, we was a three down, so it 1018 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 11: was a lot more stunned and slanting things. When I 1019 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 11: got here, they wanted me to too gap. You know, 1020 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 11: I kind of watched my film on guys like a 1021 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 11: Woods and Monett, guys that's three hundred and fifty pounds 1022 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 11: pus try to kind of mirror they game. But you know, 1023 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 11: I'm three or eight, so I can't really my grind 1024 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 11: like they do. So I had to kind of really 1025 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 11: implement what I did best and what they wanted me 1026 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 11: to do and kind of just like make my game 1027 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 11: my own. 1028 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 4: Man. 1029 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 3: I could imagine since you were a kid, this is 1030 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 3: what you wanted to do right right and help provide 1031 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 3: for the family. I remember I wasn't drafted. I was undrafted, 1032 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 3: and I snuck through the back door and the first 1033 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 3: thing I did was take care of moms. I'm like, 1034 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 3: mom helped me out my whole life. I'm gonna take 1035 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 3: care of you. I'm gonna still drive the same car. 1036 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: I'm doing nothing. I'm taking care of you first. So 1037 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: what was that. 1038 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 4: Moment like for your family? You know, I'm sure you've 1039 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 4: been telling. 1040 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: Your mom since you was a kid, I'm gonna buy 1041 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 3: your house. I'm gonna do this something, make it to 1042 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 3: the league like this. How gratifying is that? 1043 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 11: Actually I had dreams of taking care of my family 1044 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 11: before I had NFL dream, So I didn't know how 1045 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 11: I was gonna do it, but I knew that once 1046 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 11: I got the opportunity that I was gonna make away. 1047 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 11: So just being able to give back to them, like like, 1048 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 11: don't fold my world. So just giving them what they want, 1049 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 11: you know, makes my day. 1050 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 3: Are you an emotional kind of guy? Like when you 1051 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 3: drafted where they're like tears of joy or was it 1052 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: just I'm clocking in getting back to work? 1053 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 4: What was that moment? 1054 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 3: Like? 1055 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 11: It was a definitely little emotional you know, I was 1056 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 11: surrounded by the people I love, kind of had pictures 1057 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 11: are the ones that I wish was there. That was 1058 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 11: the ones that eble to make it. So it was 1059 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 11: a definitely lot of emotions going. Definitely seeing my mom 1060 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 11: and my dad cry that kind of jard a tear 1061 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 11: or two. So it was an emotional moment. 1062 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. 1063 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 5: Well, there's a pretty good story of you also helping 1064 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 5: your family out there and buying them a house. I'm 1065 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 5: sure that was an emotional time as well. Get'd you 1066 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 5: mind sharing that story with everybody here? 1067 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 11: Most definitely once I got the draft call, you know, 1068 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 11: I was kind of looking for a house with my mom. 1069 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 11: Then I was telling her like, Ma, you got to 1070 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 11: find a house that you won't She what kind of 1071 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,479 Speaker 11: prolonging that she thought I was playing with it. I'm like, nah, 1072 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 11: like this is the first person I want to make 1073 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 11: like I want to get you a house. So once 1074 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 11: I got home, I kind of like took it upon myself, 1075 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 11: like we had like a week off before we came back. 1076 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 11: Once I got home, I went there. It's the house 1077 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 11: popped up on the market like as soon as I landed. 1078 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 11: So I kind of text the relative like I'm trying 1079 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 11: to come look at it. I guess she thought I 1080 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 11: was playing too, so she was like, uh, okay, I 1081 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 11: guess we got a young kid coming in talking about 1082 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 11: he want to buy his house. We gona let him 1083 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 11: look at it. So she was like, the owners they're 1084 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 11: looking to see it this weekend. So I was like, 1085 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 11: what's the offer? So she told me the number. I 1086 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 11: gave a better price and they gave it to me. 1087 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 11: So how that worked? 1088 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 6: Is it in your hometown of Crosby? 1089 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 11: Uh no, say, it's actually like, oh wait, okay, it's 1090 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 11: probably twenty minutes from my mom worked, So it works out. 1091 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 4: Good to blossom, you gotta now. 1092 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 3: I was sitting with my sons the other day and 1093 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 3: we were trying to go back and forth and name 1094 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 3: brothers in the league. 1095 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 4: Right, and so there's a pedigree. 1096 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 3: If it's in you, you got a chance to make 1097 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 3: it to the league for sure. Do you got any cousins, 1098 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 3: little ones coming up? You think we should be looking 1099 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 3: out for. 1100 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 11: I think my little brother he got a chance. You know, 1101 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 11: he's a big guy, kind of physical. Oh, he likes 1102 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 11: to get physical with me. Uh so I'm looking forward to. 1103 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 11: Now you play offensive line. I don't know why you play. 1104 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 11: You know, I think offensive line some of the craziest 1105 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 11: people in the world. But they do it so he 1106 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 11: love it so white. 1107 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 3: Why do you think they're crazy, I said, d line 1108 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 3: because y'all w need attack line. 1109 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 4: You're on the retreat. 1110 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, but like I've read for football, it's like hammers 1111 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 11: and nails. You feel me, So I like to be 1112 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 11: a hammer. I feel like offensive line are always nails. 1113 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 11: So and then you don't get no credit for that, 1114 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 11: Like you get hit every play and the quarterback get 1115 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 11: all the love. 1116 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 4: So that's that's like. 1117 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 6: I had a coach. 1118 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 5: I had a coach who said that the difference between 1119 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 5: this offensive line and defensive line was when I told 1120 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 5: the defensive line, I want you to run through that wall. 1121 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 6: They ran through the wall for sure. 1122 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 5: And then he told I said I want to He 1123 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 5: went to the offensive line, said I want you to 1124 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 5: run through that wall. And they looked at that wall 1125 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 5: and they go, what can we go over the wall? 1126 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 5: Can we go around the wall? You know, they overthought 1127 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 5: the things so and they are they're definitely different. Hey, 1128 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 5: there's there's a connection. We had Coach Leads to Washington State. 1129 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 5: Coach up here a long time in the Northwestern so 1130 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 5: a lot of people got to know him. He went 1131 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,479 Speaker 5: to Mississippi State and you know he passed a year ago. 1132 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 6: I mean, it's crazy. 1133 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 5: One just you know, tell us a little bit about 1134 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 5: what he meant to you and just how that whole 1135 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 5: thing went down. 1136 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 6: For your team. 1137 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 11: Coach Lee's a great guy, you know, a great offensive mine. Uh, 1138 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 11: just a great leader of men. So once he came in, 1139 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 11: you know, his staff was the one that really gave 1140 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,879 Speaker 11: me my opportunity. So I'm forever grateful for him for that. 1141 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 3: When I look at Leech and I look at Pete Carroll, 1142 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 3: I think they're different, but they're the same time, there's 1143 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 3: some similarity. 1144 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 11: It's like it's so smart that you're crazy to a 1145 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 11: point like like I just can't explain it, like they 1146 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 11: do on sporadic things at times, like you just really can't. 1147 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 3: Right, And that has to be interesting as a player, right, 1148 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 3: because you know I went to Washington State. I didn't 1149 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 3: play for LEEDSIP, but I got a chance to be 1150 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 3: around him, and he always intrigues me. Like I don't 1151 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 3: understand what you're doing, right, but I want to understand it, 1152 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Just Pete Carroll gives you 1153 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: kind of kind of the same thing. 1154 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, Like you will see Pete like running sprints and 1155 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 11: like throwing the ball like fifty yards like he do 1156 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 11: it every day. Like we don't know why, but I 1157 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 11: just assume like that's a way for him to exert 1158 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 11: energy because like his brain moving like one hundred miles 1159 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 11: by at all time, so like it's crazy, but he Well. 1160 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 3: Cam Man, I was excited when they drafted you. I'm 1161 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 3: excited when I see you when at four point because 1162 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 3: I know you abouts get busy and we appreciate you 1163 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 3: taking time out of your Thursday. 1164 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 6: Man, you're the future. 1165 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 7: Man. 1166 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 6: You got some good veterans in front of you. Show. 1167 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 6: But we're glad you're here. 1168 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 11: Thank you. 1169 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 4: Give it up one more time for Cam. You all right? 1170 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 3: When move returnle go inside the film room with break down, 1171 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 3: Cam Walker's touchdown and Sam Howell threw a touchdown and 1172 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 3: DK setting up the game winning field goal. 1173 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 4: That's next right here on Hawk's Live. 1174 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 1175 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, live on air on 1176 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,280 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 1177 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Hawks Live. Michael Bumpus with my guy 1178 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 4: Paul Moya. Now, this is what we love to do. 1179 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 2: Man. 1180 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: If you guys could be in our text thread around 1181 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 3: Sunday night, maybe two hours after the postgame show, More 1182 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 3: is gonna hit us with the text I, hey guys, 1183 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 3: look at this. This is what I'm seeing. And then 1184 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: Monday he hits us with something else. Tuesday, he has 1185 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 3: figured out what works and what doesn't work. By Wednesday, 1186 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 3: he's looking towards the next weekend. By Thursday, he's saying, 1187 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 3: all right, let's look over these plays again and make 1188 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,280 Speaker 3: sure that I was correct. 1189 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 6: Cale. 1190 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have you as my agent. I got my 1191 00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 5: PR person, which you need. 1192 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 4: I need five percent on that three gotta get fine. 1193 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 6: Look, we're family. It's it's all in the family. 1194 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, shure, that's how you get around it. Okay, all right, 1195 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 4: sounds good. 1196 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 3: All right, So let's go into the film room and 1197 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 3: break some of these plays down. The first play we're 1198 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: breaking down, Gino Smith finds kit Walker for a sixty 1199 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 3: four yard touchdown Washington with. 1200 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 9: Four down Linemens playfake to Walker. Gino looks to throw 1201 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 9: scrambles out now dumps it off underneath. Walker makes again 1202 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 9: across the midfield. 1203 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 4: Still on the moon down to the. 1204 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: Forty pick a goat twenty five fifty ten five he 1205 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 2: guys in touchdown, say Hawks. Ken Walker the third out 1206 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 2: of a cannon and down the near sidelines for sixty 1207 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 2: four yards on a touchdown, and just when the Hawks 1208 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 2: needed it both Walker breaks tackles near the line of 1209 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 2: scrimmage and he is gone. Seattle leeds fifteen to twelve. 1210 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 3: All right, I like this boyer, because we were talking 1211 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 3: off air and you say, man, do you think that 1212 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 3: was a design play? And I go, no, this is 1213 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 3: what I think, And you tell me if you agree 1214 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 3: or not. I think that it's a play action pass 1215 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 3: now ken Walker after the play action, he's looking to see, Okay, 1216 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 3: now I'm in pass pro. If this backer is going 1217 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 3: to block, then I'm blocking. If he doesn't block, then 1218 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 3: now I release. It's called like a check with me 1219 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 3: depending on what you do right. So now you're in 1220 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 3: name a three by one formation. Get the tight end 1221 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 3: to the right, attacks a line of scrimmage. Got Jake 1222 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 3: Bobo and Tyler Lockett to the right, DK isolated on 1223 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 3: the backside. Looks like they're in a deep quarters or 1224 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 3: something like that. 1225 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 4: When when we're. 1226 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 3: Talking about the defense, Gino looks to the left, he's 1227 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 3: looking to take a shot I feel like and doesn't 1228 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 3: like the release that he works to the number two 1229 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 3: or even the number three to the right side that's 1230 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 3: the tight end, doesn't like his release and says, you 1231 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna avoid. I'm gonna make a play, 1232 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 3: check it down to my running back. And now that's 1233 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: just ken Walker being elusive in making plays. 1234 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is all on ken Walker. I mean, there's 1235 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 5: not a lot of blocking going on here. But the 1236 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 5: reason why I asked was this a design checkdown? Is 1237 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 5: I wish we did more of this. A lot of 1238 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 5: times you'll have an outlet, so there's always you're always 1239 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,879 Speaker 5: looking for the check down. A lot of times it's 1240 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 5: a swing route by a back, so he's looking downfield, 1241 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 5: nothing there, and then they'll run a swing route. But 1242 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 5: a lot of times it's still behind the line of scrimmage, 1243 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: and so you know the linebackers and underneath coverage are 1244 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 5: getting deep, but they can rally to that. The reason 1245 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 5: why I was thinking it was is because it looked 1246 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 5: so like it was designed, like they ran this play action, 1247 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 5: and this play action came from a play action power play. 1248 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 6: We'd been running a bunch of power plays, and. 1249 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 5: A power play just means that we're pulling a guard 1250 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 5: and a lot of times that guard leads up and 1251 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 5: will hit a linebacker kick out and then dependent on how. 1252 00:54:59,320 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 6: They play it. 1253 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 5: So we'd run a bunch of power runs and so 1254 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 5: we pull a guard on this thing, our left guard, 1255 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,320 Speaker 5: which was Lewis, and so you know they were running 1256 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 5: the play action routes behind it well. 1257 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 6: A lot of. 1258 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 5: Times in play action and bootlegs, when you see that 1259 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 5: as a linebacker or the underneath coverage, you're looking for 1260 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 5: designed routes. 1261 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 6: They've done this for a reason. 1262 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 5: Bootlegs it's you know, usually crossing routes and they're trying 1263 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 5: to do it in two or three levels. So you're 1264 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 5: turned to look up. You know, one of the tight 1265 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 5: ends crossing or a wide receiver crossing. Play action same thing. 1266 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 5: There's a lot of designed routes without you, and so 1267 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 5: often you'll see linebackers turn their back to the quarterback 1268 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 5: to go look up receivers on play action. So I 1269 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 5: like a checkdown in the middle of the field to 1270 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 5: take advantage of that, and you can split a defense 1271 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 5: on this one. You're right, it wasn't designed on that, 1272 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 5: just with a happenstance on it. 1273 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 6: But it's such a great play by K nine. 1274 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, he makes one guy miss 1275 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 5: and then he breaks the tackle, and then he has 1276 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 5: the speed to take it to distance. 1277 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 6: It's all on Key Night. 1278 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 5: So Gino listens to our show every Thursday from seven 1279 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 5: to nine. I'm gonna let him know it's okay to 1280 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 5: hit some check downs in the middle of the. 1281 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 3: Field, all right, you heard it from Moyer. If he 1282 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 3: says you better do it, it's right. It's gonna work. 1283 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1284 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 3: This next play, we got Sam Hawl Fine's Brown for 1285 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 3: a thirty five yard touchdown. 1286 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 9: Third down and ten shotgun snap howl stands, waits throws, catches, 1287 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 9: made the run to the end zone and we're a 1288 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,240 Speaker 9: point away from being tied up catching a crossing route. 1289 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 9: Is Brown right in the middle of the Seahawks defense 1290 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 9: and nobody is there to make the tackle. A thirty 1291 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 9: five yard touchdown. 1292 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 4: All right, what you see? 1293 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 5: Well, we uh, we end up sending four guys on this, 1294 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 5: but one of the four is we we send Bobby 1295 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 5: Wagner in the middle of the formation, and then we 1296 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 5: drop I believe we drop Darryl Taylor to the late left, 1297 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 5: and then Jordan Brooks is kind of our our deep 1298 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 5: middle guy. Honestly, there are just times in a game 1299 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 5: you go, it was just a better throw me. We're 1300 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 5: actually in position. I mean, is it Woolan or is 1301 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 5: it Witherspoon? And I thought it was Woolan, but then 1302 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 5: I thought I heard Pete say it was Witherspoon. 1303 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 6: It's it is Witherspoon. 1304 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 4: Uh, I mean both of them. 1305 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 6: It's Witherspoon. 1306 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 5: Woolen's out to our right, but Witherspoon's in the in 1307 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 5: the nickel, so he drops in what I call kind 1308 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 5: of the hook area between the numbers. 1309 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 4: And the hash. 1310 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 5: It's just a great throw, and it's a great catch. 1311 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 5: And even for Digs when I see it, Digs goes 1312 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 5: to where the ball is. The guy undercuts him. He 1313 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 5: has to stop and Reroute. It's just sometimes they out 1314 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 5: make a play on you. I don't I don't fault 1315 00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 5: anything here. 1316 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 4: No, you look at the coverage. 1317 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 3: You got Witherspoon underneath, you got Brooks underneath, got safeties 1318 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 3: over the top. Sometimes guys just make plays. 1319 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 6: It happens. 1320 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 5: I'm sure if you give me a second here, I 1321 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 5: can find some fault to it. 1322 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 6: Maybe it's the backside. 1323 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 4: Corner, you know me. 1324 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll throw this on Trey Brown. So Trey, I'm 1325 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 5: calling you out on this tray. Tray sat and watched 1326 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 5: the play for a second, and he could have made 1327 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 5: the play before the touchdown. 1328 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 6: It still would have been about the ten yard line. 1329 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 4: How watch him, he stops the backside corner. 1330 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 5: Watch you gotta go to the sideline. Sideline, okay, watch 1331 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 5: when the ball's thrown. Look, I'm taught man, when a 1332 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 5: ball thrown, you go go. He didn't go. I look, 1333 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 5: I'm nitpicking. I'm nitpicking. I love Trey Brown. I told 1334 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 5: you I think we got the best trio corners and 1335 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 5: the league. He has come and he has become the guy. 1336 00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 4: You would coach him up that way. 1337 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 5: I would say, hey, what are you doing? Why are 1338 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 5: you watching the play? He just watched it. When I 1339 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 5: say watch, he watched it for about a half second. 1340 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 5: That half second, if he had it going, he would 1341 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,919 Speaker 5: have made the tackle at. 1342 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 6: A ten yard line. 1343 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 4: As long as you're coaching him up that way, I'm okay. 1344 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 5: With an equal opportunity. Man, all right, I'm called tough 1345 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 5: love trying to make it. Do you want to be 1346 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 5: the best you can be? What do you want to 1347 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 5: do with you? 1348 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 6: Thank you? That's all I'm saying, all right. 1349 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 3: Next up again, Geno Smith finds dk Metcalf for a 1350 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 3: twenty seven yard game, setting up the game winning field goal. 1351 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 9: Second down in ten from his own forty eight Seahawks 1352 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 9: need to get about twenty yards. 1353 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 2: There's a shutdown the middle of Decayans and spins out 1354 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 2: of one tackle. He's dragging guys down to the twenty 1355 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 2: five yard line. But now they got to get. 1356 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 4: Up to the line of scrimmage. 1357 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 2: Thirteen twelve eleven Seahawks running to get to the line 1358 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. 1359 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 4: Gino gets everybody. 1360 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: Set six five four three, spits the ball. What a 1361 00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 2: pass by Gino and what a clutch play by number 1362 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 2: fourteen DK Medcalf. A twenty seven yard reception just when 1363 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 2: they needed it. 1364 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 5: Let's call get high fire up. 1365 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 6: Hey, you got a call by Steve. 1366 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 4: You got me? Steve got me too. 1367 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1368 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 3: So if you guys look, I do a bumps breakdown 1369 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 3: every Wednesday or every Thursday, every Wednesday, every Wednesday on YouTube. 1370 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 3: You guys, go and check it out Seattle Sports. I 1371 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 3: break down this play right here. So this is what happens. Okay, 1372 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 3: it's all about occupying defenders and Geno realizing where the 1373 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 3: space is going to be. All right, you got a 1374 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 3: two by two set kind of tight stack, look right, 1375 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 3: two receivers type, two receivers type. And what happens is 1376 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 3: the inside receivers are going to run hitches. 1377 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 4: They occupy guys. Now you got Tyler Lockett who runs 1378 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 4: a corner. 1379 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 3: He's gonna take the cornerback with them and the safety. 1380 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 3: And then you have DK, who's running a ten yard team. 1381 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 3: What makes this thing possible is zach Sharbonne swings to 1382 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 3: the right, He takes a linebacker with him, and he 1383 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 3: opens up the middle of the field and Gino knows 1384 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 3: where the ball should and will be going. DK runs 1385 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 3: a ten yard in boom, he rounds it, gets the football, 1386 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 3: breaks the tackle. DK showed up big early in the game, 1387 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 3: a little shaky late in the game. 1388 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 4: DK got it done. 1389 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 3: Beautiful play design, but more impressive was Gino understanding what 1390 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 3: the defense is in what they're trying to do and 1391 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 3: getting the ball to fourteen. 1392 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 5: Yeah there, you know, I want to describe all the 1393 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 5: what happened there with the hooks early on and then 1394 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 5: the late cross or the end route by DK. 1395 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 6: It's a great throw first of all by Gino because. 1396 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 5: Jason Peters kind of gets beat inside by the end 1397 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 5: and so Gino and I don't want to say it 1398 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 5: would have been a sack, but he flashes right in 1399 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 5: front of Gino in the middle of the formation. 1400 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 6: So to me, it's a really good throw. 1401 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 5: And I think the second best thing is just dcase 1402 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 5: effort to get that extra. 1403 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,480 Speaker 6: Ten yards, you know, I mean, he got us that. 1404 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,959 Speaker 5: It would have been outside the thirty if he hadn't 1405 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 5: have broke the tackle on this. But here's the most 1406 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 5: impressive part of that play. Jason Peters has to run 1407 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 5: all the way. He runs in late You gotta watch 1408 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,600 Speaker 5: the sideline aything. They're kind of waiting for him. And 1409 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 5: Jason's a big man. He's forty two years old and 1410 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 5: he's probably thinking, Okay, we caught that ball. Oh we 1411 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 5: don't have any timeouts. We gotta run all the way 1412 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 5: up there, get set and get spiked. And he's everybody's 1413 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 5: kind of setting. Here comes Jason later running and hustling there. 1414 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 6: It's pretty funny to watch. 1415 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 4: That's a veteran for you. 1416 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 6: Yep, it was. 1417 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,080 Speaker 5: It was great play man, just a good win for 1418 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 5: the Seahawks. 1419 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 3: All right, hey, make sure you get out to the 1420 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 3: b alv Collection Dyningistics. 1421 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 4: So many great restaurants to choose from. Today. 1422 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 3: We had our pre show meal at one of our favorites, 1423 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 3: Duke's Sea Food. 1424 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 4: I had baking. 1425 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 3: Cheeseberg alright, you know man, and it's tapping on the seafood. 1426 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,959 Speaker 3: Moyer had some type of seafood. 1427 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 6: What did you have? What did you have? The case ideas? 1428 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 6: What were they? I'm telling you, and. 1429 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 5: I am not exaggerating, I'm not lying. I'm not just 1430 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 5: pumping up dukes. Even though I'm pumping up dukes. Their 1431 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 5: case idea? 1432 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 6: What was. 1433 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 5: It's it's unbelievable. You wouldn't even think it would be good, 1434 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 5: but it is. I took the extra one. It's in 1435 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 5: my to go back. 1436 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 3: But for me, it was even better as the rock 1437 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 3: fish tacos straight for life. 1438 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I promise you it's not what you think. 1439 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 6: They are so good. 1440 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 4: It's not what you think. What do you think? 1441 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I'm thinking a rock fish fish taco. 1442 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:52,959 Speaker 5: You're thinking right, halibit case idea. No, these are They're 1443 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 5: like legit taco. 1444 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 4: Remember, it's not what you think. It's good. 1445 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 5: Look I I'm look I man boyer. 1446 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 4: Let us know. Right, we come back, it's time to 1447 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 4: talk that talk. 1448 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 3: Well, we'll go through some topics and Moyer would tell 1449 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 3: me he's always right, because you know what, I respect 1450 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,959 Speaker 3: my elders, So he's right. Okay, that's coming up next 1451 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 3: bright here on Hawk's Live. 1452 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 7: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and 1453 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 7: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. 1454 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 4: What A What A? 1455 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 3: Back to Hawk's Live on Michael Bamas with Paul Moyer, 1456 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 3: and now it's time to talk that talk. 1457 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 4: This is when we square up. You know, we we 1458 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 4: throw some topics out there and we. 1459 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 3: See who's right and who's wrong, or or at least 1460 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,959 Speaker 3: we put an argument for who's right and who's wrong. 1461 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 6: It's turned more into a pillow fight, you know if 1462 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 6: we get. 1463 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 3: A because it's like there's too much love between us. 1464 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 5: At first we were like, yeah, come on, who's the 1465 01:04:59,480 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 5: who's the. 1466 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like, Hey, that's a gimme. 1467 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 4: That's a gimme. You can have back until the eighteenth. 1468 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 6: I'll put that right. 1469 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, that we're playing skins. Now roll it over. 1470 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's get into it. Man, talk that talk. 1471 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 3: I'll start us off more. All right, here we go, 1472 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 3: You agree or disagree? Gino Smith continues his turnover less street. 1473 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 6: God Man. 1474 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 5: The Rams just they their blitz package work worries me. 1475 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 5: But I don't think their secondary is very good. So 1476 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say yes. I think Gino he knows what 1477 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,439 Speaker 5: we need to do. We cannot turn the ball over, 1478 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 5: so yeah, I'm gonna. 1479 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 4: Say yeah, say yeah. 1480 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to say yes as well. Last week there 1481 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 3: was only one play that kind of scared me. I 1482 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 3: think they tried to set up the screen. He tried 1483 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 3: to side arm it to Ken Walker. There's a defensive 1484 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 3: lineman there and he makes a play on the football. 1485 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 3: But for the most part last week he was pretty good, 1486 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 3: So I think that he's going to tap in to 1487 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 3: the geno that we saw last year for the most 1488 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 3: part and take care of the football. 1489 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 4: So now I'm with you. He's going to continue his 1490 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 4: turnover less. 1491 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 5: Street and we need it. Here's an interesting winner. Matthew 1492 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 5: Stafford is eleventh all time and passion. When he is 1493 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 5: at Detroit. 1494 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,439 Speaker 6: You know, I didn't think much of him. 1495 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 5: I knew he had a pretty good arm, you know, 1496 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,160 Speaker 5: he they threw a lot. 1497 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 6: He was a good guy, you know, stuff like that. 1498 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 6: I never thought of him as elite. 1499 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 5: And then McVeigh figures him out and breaks over the 1500 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 5: rams and win a Super Bowl? 1501 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 6: Is he Hall of Fame worthy? 1502 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford hall of Fame worthy? Here's the thing. 1503 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 3: If he stayed in Detroit and Dave whatever Detroit is doing, 1504 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 3: didn't win a super Bowl. Because I don't see Jared 1505 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: Golf winning a super Bowl super Bowl. 1506 01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 4: I don't see the team right now, that's ball. 1507 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 3: What are they seven to two, eight and two at 1508 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,480 Speaker 3: this point right now? Maybe seven to two. I don't 1509 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 3: see them winning a super Bowl. So I think the 1510 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 3: fact that he came over to Los Angeles and won 1511 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,919 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl put him in the Hall of Fame 1512 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 3: because he's gonna play three four more seasons. He's gonna 1513 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 3: put up three thousand yards at least per season. That's 1514 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,680 Speaker 3: another what nine to ten eleven thousand yards? So now 1515 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna say he's Hall of Fame. 1516 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 5: Well, he's definitely gonna be in the top ten, and 1517 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 5: he's got a Super Bowl. Eli Manning has two super Bowls. 1518 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 5: He's not in the in the in the Hall of Fame. 1519 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if he's is he eligible yet? 1520 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 5: He might just now be eligible, but he you know, 1521 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 5: that's another. 1522 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 6: One would be an interesting one. 1523 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 5: It's so weird because Goth has had success at Detroit. 1524 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,880 Speaker 5: You know, Goth was good with the Rams. The Rams 1525 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 5: of the last two years have not been good. But 1526 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 5: I think he gets into I just think, you know, 1527 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 5: if you're a top ten all time yard quarterback, you've 1528 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 5: won a super Bowl, the Super Bow, Bulls what Dotson 1529 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 5: if he didn't have the Super Bowl, say Detroit, I 1530 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 5: don't think he gets in. 1531 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 4: So what about Matt Ryan, He'll be he's top ten. 1532 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 3: Man. 1533 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 5: I just but those to me are just yards, right. 1534 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got an MVP, Matthew Stafford, have an 1535 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 3: MVP I don't think he does. 1536 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 4: No. 1537 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 5: M vps are hard, man, you gotta have MVP sometimes 1538 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 5: are lucked too. You got to have one really good year. 1539 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 5: That to me does not make a Hall of Fame career. 1540 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 5: But sometimes winning the Super Bowl just one good year too, right, 1541 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 5: And it's a team thing. 1542 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 6: But I think Stafford gets in. 1543 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:37,719 Speaker 5: Matt Ryan. That'll be interesting because as more yards get pushed, 1544 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,440 Speaker 5: you know, by other players, and by the time he retires, 1545 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 5: and then he's got wait five years, I believe before 1546 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 5: you get into the Hall of Fame, Matt Ryan may 1547 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 5: not be in the top ten anymore. 1548 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 6: True, So that one's still up for debate. 1549 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 4: You know what. 1550 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 6: I think that will dictate. I think Eli gets. 1551 01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 4: In, all right, I'm gonna I got a hot take. 1552 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 6: All right. 1553 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 3: You know what I don't like, but guys from the 1554 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 3: fifties and sixties getting. 1555 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 4: In the Hall of Fame now, Like randomly, there'll be. 1556 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 3: Some guy who played thirty forty years ago and now 1557 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 3: he's in the Hall of Fame. 1558 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,759 Speaker 4: I go, why didn't they do it back then, earlier 1559 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 4: than now? Like, well, what's the problem. 1560 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 6: I'll give you a good one. Kenny easily. Kenny easily 1561 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 6: did not get in. 1562 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's that's not that's he didn't play forty years ago. 1563 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 6: No, but it had gone by thirty years. He didn't 1564 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 6: get in. 1565 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 5: And the reason why he didn't get in is he 1566 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 5: got his injuries cut his career short. And so much 1567 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 5: of the writers look at oh, you got to have longevity, 1568 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 5: but they didn't look at well, the seven years he played, 1569 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 5: he was the most dominant, most feared. He was safety 1570 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,680 Speaker 5: in the NFL, and he won defensive MVP as a 1571 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 5: safety with back then was unheard of in nineteen eighty four. 1572 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 6: And so to me, it's Warren. 1573 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 5: And sometimes you just got to go back and say 1574 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 5: they missed it. They just missed it during that time. 1575 01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 5: And the other thing is, I mean, do you leave 1576 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 5: it to writers? Come on, man, I'm not a huge 1577 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 5: fan of writers because they just look at at times statistics. 1578 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 3: You know what now that you say that Gail Sayers 1579 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 3: better be in the Hall of Time, yes, okay. 1580 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 5: But that's another one season I know. 1581 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 3: But he was the most he was He was the 1582 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 3: smoothest runner I've ever seen in all Live Girl. 1583 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 4: Sayers. 1584 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 6: You know who should be in Dave Brown. Dave Brown, Dave. 1585 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,520 Speaker 5: Brown's sixty two or three interceptions. 1586 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,480 Speaker 6: How do you not in the Hall of Fame. 1587 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 5: With that many intersects because we never you never went 1588 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame. If he was, he got 1589 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 5: drafted by Pittsburgh in the supplemental Draft when the Seahawks 1590 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 5: started as a franchise. They didn't protect Dave Brown. He 1591 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 5: was a first round pick by Pittsburgh. 1592 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 6: Steelers out of Michigan. 1593 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 5: The Seahawks get him in that whatever not supplemental draft 1594 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,720 Speaker 5: of picks whatever they do for expansion teams. And he 1595 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 5: has a Hall of Fame career and he's not in. 1596 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 5: That guy should be in the Hall of Fame. 1597 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 3: So at the rate we're at, if you were in 1598 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 3: the Seahawk Ring. 1599 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 4: Of Honor, we're putting you in the Hall of Fame. 1600 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 1601 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 6: Well, I'm saying Dave Brown legitimate. 1602 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,719 Speaker 4: No for real, but we just named Hawks. 1603 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 5: I can make a case for Dave Craig. At one point, 1604 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 5: the Craig he had yards and touchdowns. 1605 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 4: These are your golfing buddies, aren't they. 1606 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 5: No, But you go and look at his numbers. He 1607 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 5: just never went to a Super Bowl never, you know. 1608 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 3: I mean, So, now we got to talk about what 1609 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 3: being in the Hall of Fame means, do you need 1610 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 3: a as a quarterback. 1611 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 4: As a quarterback you need to win a Super Bowl? 1612 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you do ill unless your 1613 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 4: Dann Marina Dan Marino. 1614 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 5: I mean he was so dominant, Uh Joe John Elway 1615 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 5: until his last two years, had won a Super Bowl. 1616 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 5: You know you're gonna keep him out. So, okay, that's 1617 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 5: a guy. We just we go on forever rabbit hole. 1618 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 6: We're done. 1619 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 4: We've done. 1620 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 5: That's the first time in the years we've done this. 1621 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 5: We only did to No. 1622 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,240 Speaker 4: No, well, we're not done completely. 1623 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 6: Oh I thought we were done. 1624 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 4: We're done with that. Okay, good, we got time. We 1625 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 4: got time for one more. Okay, producer says, we've got 1626 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 4: time for one more. 1627 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 6: Is we're gonna do it? 1628 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 4: Which one you want? You want the DK Tyler or 1629 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 4: the mouth Tyler? All right, here we go. 1630 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 3: DK and Tyler will have more yards this Sunday than 1631 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Pooka and cup. 1632 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 9: Cool. 1633 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 5: I get a lot of people shaking their heads. I'm 1634 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna say no. And the only reason why 1635 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say no, j SM has become such. 1636 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 6: A factor, you know, and so oh no, I'm gonna 1637 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 6: flip it. I'm gonna say yes. I think. 1638 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 5: Well, here's why I think DK is gonna go off 1639 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 5: this game. Their corners are Look you got Witherspoon, who's 1640 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,240 Speaker 5: over there. I mean we've cut him last year. 1641 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 6: He's our starting corner. 1642 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 5: And DK had a couple of routes on the rams 1643 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 5: the first game. We need to go back and do 1644 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 5: a few more of those. I think we can take 1645 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,640 Speaker 5: them deep. And DK may have one hundred plus on 1646 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 5: his own this week. 1647 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 4: All right. 1648 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 3: The reason why I'm gonna say no is because I 1649 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 3: feel like the Hawks are gonna run the football exceptionally well, 1650 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 3: and that's gonna take away from these guys. Jason's gonna 1651 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 3: cut into it, and then Tyler Lockett will will not disappear, 1652 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 3: but not have a big game for a game or two, 1653 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 3: and then he's back on the seam. 1654 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say no, but I still think the 1655 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 4: Hawks win the game. 1656 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 6: You're not wrong, okay, but you ain't. 1657 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,799 Speaker 4: Right, Dido. 1658 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 3: All right, when we get back, Hey, we put our 1659 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 3: final thoughts in Keys of Victory. 1660 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 4: That is next right here on Hawks Live. 1661 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 1662 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court live on air on 1663 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 1664 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,599 Speaker 3: We are still here. Welcome back to Hawks Live. I'm 1665 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 3: Michael Bumpus with Paul Moyer. We got our soldiers here 1666 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 3: about three hundred deep. 1667 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,560 Speaker 4: We saw the movie. 1668 01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 3: Saw that movie, great movie, just like us man cut. 1669 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 3: I tried to do that when the movie came out. 1670 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 3: You know, they they posted the workout that they did. 1671 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 4: I did it for like a week, and I'm like, nah, 1672 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 4: I don't need to be in that kind of shape. 1673 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 4: I'm good. 1674 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:16,800 Speaker 5: The guy who's the lead actor on that is it 1675 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 5: Gerard or whatever they I mean, he said that when 1676 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 5: he was done with that movie, he said he never 1677 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 5: wanted to work out again. 1678 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 6: He just he said it was so hard. 1679 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,640 Speaker 4: It's crazy, right. You know. 1680 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 3: You know what's gonna be hard is this weekend against 1681 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:33,839 Speaker 3: the Rams. 1682 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,679 Speaker 4: All Right, it's gonna be a tough game. 1683 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 6: They always play. 1684 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 4: Last time I always played. That's a great point. 1685 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 3: I think that that's that's important because for some reason, 1686 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 3: people think that games are supposed to be easy. And 1687 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,919 Speaker 3: I remind people I go, the Hawks don't set their schedule. 1688 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:51,800 Speaker 4: They don't. 1689 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,040 Speaker 3: They don't schedule a D two school week one two 1690 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 3: or three or like some SEC schools do take a 1691 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 3: buy when they want to. 1692 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,360 Speaker 4: Take the buy. No, the NFL says, this is who 1693 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 4: you're going to play. 1694 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,679 Speaker 3: And unfortunately for the Hawks, they are playing against the 1695 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 3: best division in football in the AFC North. And then 1696 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 3: you sprinkle in the Cowboys. Just sprinkle in Philly. It's 1697 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 3: gonna be tough. And then you sprinkle in the team 1698 01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,200 Speaker 3: that you got to play two times every year in 1699 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams, and they're gonna play you tough. 1700 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 4: This is going to be a tough game. 1701 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 5: Well, don't we have the toughest remaining schedule or second toughest. 1702 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 5: I mean, look, this is critical for the Seahawks to 1703 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 5: make the playoffs. I mean we have to win this 1704 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 5: game because our next four games are San Francisco Cowboys 1705 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 5: I think San Francisco again in Philadelphia or maybe those 1706 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 5: are flopped. 1707 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 6: I mean that's that's four tough games. 1708 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 5: And we got Pittsburgh somewhere at the last two games, 1709 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,640 Speaker 5: so we got a tough road they had. This is 1710 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,760 Speaker 5: a big one. I hope there's a lot of possessions 1711 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 5: in this game. Normally the Seahawks like to play not 1712 01:15:58,800 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 5: a lot of possessions. 1713 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 6: This one. 1714 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 5: I want to mainly because I just don't think their 1715 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 5: offense is that good. Their offensive line is is not 1716 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 5: very good. I think we can get after the quarterback 1717 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 5: when you need stop the run. They do run the ball well. 1718 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, they're running backs averaging four point seven 1719 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 5: yards per carry. We got to shore that up right 1720 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 5: from the get go and force them to throw it. 1721 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:23,080 Speaker 5: They're they're a different offense now because they don't protect well. 1722 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 5: So those deep crossing routes that they're gonna do it, 1723 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 5: they're gonna have to keep two tight ends in and 1724 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 5: a running back and probably run a two man route. 1725 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 5: We should be able to, you know, to match up 1726 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,679 Speaker 5: on that. I think, you know, offensively, it'll be a challenge. 1727 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 5: Is because Aaron Donald is all over the map. He's 1728 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,840 Speaker 5: a left tackle, left guard, or right tackle, right in 1729 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 5: left end. We got to know where he is. And 1730 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,200 Speaker 5: and they've got enough good players on the front to 1731 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 5: to put pressure on the quarterback. Their secondary is not great. 1732 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 5: They're they're capable of making plays, but they're not great. 1733 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 5: I think it's one of those games where I go, GINO, 1734 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,320 Speaker 5: that's a one on one matchup, Go ahead and give 1735 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 5: give dk an opportunity. He's got the height on them. 1736 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, their safety is it yeast I think 1737 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 5: it's yeast Man. He's like five nine, five ten. There's 1738 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 5: some times where he's even been in position. He's just 1739 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 5: not very tall. I couldn't make the play. So I 1740 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,800 Speaker 5: think there's some risk reward place we can we can 1741 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 5: take downfield. I hope we win by double digits. It's 1742 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,240 Speaker 5: probably not gonna happen. It's gonna be a fourth quarter game. 1743 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 5: I think we'll be in control. But we were somewhat 1744 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 5: in control of the first half the first game we 1745 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 5: played him. We were up thirteen to seven, drove down, 1746 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 5: we missed a field goal to go up sixteen to seven. 1747 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 5: That would I'd have been a big difference. Second half 1748 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 5: was just I was just throw it away. 1749 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in California now. The Los Angeles Rams don't 1750 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 3: necessarily have a really big home field advantage. 1751 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:56,520 Speaker 6: Oh, we'll have advantage. 1752 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 4: But you're gonna hear the Twelves. Oh, yes, you're gonna 1753 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 4: hear the Twelves. Is hardly any teams that roll. 1754 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,280 Speaker 3: Through there so far, and it's not at least what 1755 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 3: sixty forty like the Hawks, the Twelves should be deep 1756 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 3: in there, so I'm expecting that it's gonna help as well. 1757 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 3: And I'm just expecting a good game and this is 1758 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,519 Speaker 3: gonna be a good one. I think that this is important. 1759 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,439 Speaker 3: You have to win this game before you go into 1760 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,799 Speaker 3: the gauntlet that you're going to go into. And honestly, 1761 01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 3: the Gauntlet starts this weekend. I've been on a couple 1762 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 3: of interviews down with the broadcast teams in LA and 1763 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, look, the gatlet starts now. 1764 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 4: They keep talking about after this game. 1765 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,800 Speaker 3: I go, no, no, no, no, no, it starts with this 1766 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,559 Speaker 3: game because the Rams have gotten the better of this 1767 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 3: team as of LAG. 1768 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 6: And I'll close you with this. 1769 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 5: I think this is personal for Pete being five and nine, 1770 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,240 Speaker 5: since mcveigh's come to the Rams. 1771 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:46,880 Speaker 4: Got to shake his hand. 1772 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,759 Speaker 5: I think I think we'll run a few different things 1773 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 5: offensively in defense with this game. 1774 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 4: All right, let's get it special. 1775 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Thanks to all the people who stayed here and hollered 1776 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,679 Speaker 3: at us today. Also to Kobe Parkers, Greg Beecham, and 1777 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 3: Cam Young for joining the show. Our board operators Max Strobel, 1778 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 3: on site engineer is the lovely Brennan Rodgers. Production of 1779 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,640 Speaker 3: Centstus Chauncey Sanders and executive producer is Nasa Choby. The 1780 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 3: Seahawks pregame show is live this Sunday starting at ten am. 1781 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,720 Speaker 3: Until next time, I'm your host, Michael Bumpus. That's my guy, 1782 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,679 Speaker 3: Paul Moyer. We'll be back in a couple of weeks, 1783 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 3: right here on Hawk's lot.