1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back. It is the Late 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Kick Extra Podcast Thursday morning, April twenty second, the Year 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. It is a huge, huge, 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: huge day here. It's not just huge because we have 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: a podcast full of great college football Q and a 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: come in your way right this second. It's not huge 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: because we got a jam packed Late Kick Live later tonight. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: It's not huge because we got a bunch of spring 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: games this weekend. Nor is it huge because we're approaching 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: three thousand on Instagram. Therefore we are preparing another Late 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Kickshow Owners Association meeting, no friends. It's huge because, as 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm speaking in this microphone, I'm not in my apartment, 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: and it's not early in the morning or extremely late 14 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: at night. It's late in the day on Wednesday, and 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: abnormally I'm actually recording at the studio. And the reason 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: it's big is because at the studio when comicbook dot 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Com is here sometimes they have musical instruments, and every 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: so often they leave a musical instrument behind. So I 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: come strolling in about two thirty this afternoon, not even 20 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: really intending to record the podcast, but when I looked 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: over in the corner. Yeah, yeah, so that's there. So 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: all these fancy podcasts out there, with these big production teams, 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: it's just me and producer Jordan here over in our 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: little cubbyhole corner. They got all the budget in the world, 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: they got all the special effects, all the editing time 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: in the world. We got to turn these things with 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: sometimes less than an hour's notice. But today we're doing 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: our own sound effects. I'm doing my own audio beds. 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: We're recording it on the fly. So not only do 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: we have a jam packed mailbag, but I'm playing at 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: least one chord going in and coming out of every question. 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: So help me. These opportunities are very, very few and 33 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: far between. We cannot let it go by the wayside 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: without taking full advantage. Josh pat seven zero six at 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's the way to submit a question. 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: If you want to through email, you can also DM 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: me on Instagram, on Twitter at late kick Josh. Make 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: sure you give me follows both places. Some of you 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: follow me one place, some of you follow me another place. 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Best thing to do just follow me in both places. 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be really really fun, really really active, 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: especially when the season gets here. But beat the rush 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: do it now. And I also want to just say 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: thank you in general, because we've been get so much traction. 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: I'm looking around at some of the network traffic and whatnot, 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: and our traffic right now is really disproportionate to what 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: the college football media industry says it should be this 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: time of year. But then again, that's why we stress 49 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: there is no off season, and so that's not just 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: a marketing slogan. We operate the same way now as 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: we do in September. We may be talking about different things, 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: but we don't take time off. We don't let our 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: foot off the gas. We bring it, or at least 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: we try to bring it year round. Now. In these 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: situations like the podcast we're about to get started in 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: about ten seconds, it's because of you. I mean, we 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: got some great questions this morning. There's no need to 58 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: ever slow down. So thank you so much for making 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: that possible. Let's get it started here, Hold on a seconds, 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: groundbreaking stuff. We're winning an Emmy. Jordan, here we go, Jered, 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: kick this off. If you were an athletic director at 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: a prestigious football university, maybe not elite currently, though, what 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: kinds of questions would you ask when interviewing coaches. How 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: would it maybe change for younger coaches. It wouldn't really 65 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: change for younger coaches all that much, Jared, at least 66 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: for me personally. So the way I would want to 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: go about it is, I'd ask them to define our culture. 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: So Peate State, I'm bringing the coach in and either 69 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: we are elite currently or at one time we were 70 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: elite and we think we can be again. So if 71 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: I've got the resources, I'm asking them define our culture. 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: This is not the NFL. In the NFL, you fit 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: the New York Jets as well as you do the 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. But in college football, if you're going 75 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: to coach at UCLA versus Rutgers, I mean, those two 76 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: couldn't be any different. If you're going to coach at 77 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Auburn versus Oregon State, those two couldn't be any different. 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: You got to find a really good culture. Fit. Culture 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: is imperative in college football. Look no further than what 80 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman just did and is doing at Arkansas. If 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Sam Pittman were to be hired instead of Jimmy Lake 82 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: as the head coach at Washington, would it work? You 83 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: never say never, But I certainly don't think be anywhere 84 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: close to the fit there that he is at Arkansas. 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: So the first thing I would ask that coach to 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: do is define our culture, because I want to know 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: how he sees us. And then I'd ask him to 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: define his culture. In a perfect world, you fully implement 89 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: everything about yourself in our program. What is your culture? 90 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: We got to find out if those two concepts jive, 91 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: because if they don't jive, and I recently found out 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: the word is jib, but I'm not stopping the v. 93 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Jive is the word for me. If those two don't mesh, 94 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: let's say, and conceptually we're just on different planets. When 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: it comes to your culture versus our culture, well that's 96 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: oil and water. It's not going to mix. It doesn't 97 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: matter what your record is at that point, Jared Cee, 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're young or you're old, doesn't matter 99 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: how many wins you've put up. If your culture and 100 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: your idea of what it's supposed to be doesn't match ours, 101 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: then we got to shake hands. We got to move on. 102 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Another thing I'd be really big into learning about is 103 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: motivation tactics. How do you go about motivating? And if 104 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: I got a coach. Now this is me personally, this 105 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: is the way we're going to do it at Peyton State. 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: If I got a coach who is constantly preaching doubt, 107 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: constantly preaching us against the world, constantly, as I've spoken 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: about before, using external factors as the fuel for our 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: motivation source here, I'm not on board with that. I 110 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: don't believe in it because I don't believe it's long 111 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: term sustainable, and so I would much rather have a 112 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: guy who is kind of like Nick Saban, not like 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: him in a sense of a clone, because there isn't 114 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: another one out there. But Saban's not the only one 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: who buys into the process oriented approach of finding things 116 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: internally to motivate. Therefore, it doesn't matter when you get 117 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: to the top that there are no doubters left. Your 118 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: fuel doesn't run out because you weren't relying on the 119 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: doubters to begin with. So I'd have a long conversation 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: about that. I'd want to know what his message in 121 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: recruiting is going to be, and therefore what his staff's 122 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: message in recruiting is going to because I don't want 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: anyone going out on the road for Pate State and 124 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: recruiting against a program. I want him out there and 125 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: his staff out there selling my program because if we 126 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: think we're good enough, if we think we have a 127 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: good enough product, if we think we have a good 128 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: enough culture, we don't have to rely on the negative 129 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: recruiting tactics. Some may do it, that's fine. We don't 130 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: want to be the sum. We want to be the 131 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: very very very few. We want to be elite, and 132 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: the elite programs they typically don't do that. You may 133 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: find one or two exceptions, but the vast majority of 134 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: them that hang out in the top end of the 135 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: recruiting world and therefore the top end of the college 136 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: football world, they don't have to do it. How are 137 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: you gonna go negative recruit against Ohio State? What are 138 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: you saying to negatively recruit against Oklahoma? The only thing 139 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: you're saying negative about those places is their depth chart 140 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: is loaded. You may not play there. Well, if I'm 141 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: paid State and you're saying that about me, you're doing 142 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: me a favor even though you don't know it. Because 143 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: if any kid is deterred by my depth chart here 144 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: at Payt State, by default, they weren't gonna make it 145 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: here anyway. I gotta have a competitive mentality and a 146 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: kid to come here. It's no different than the way 147 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Saban has to do it at Alabama. Kirby does it 148 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: this way at Georgia, Ryan Day's doing it this way. 149 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: Dabbo has to do it this way. All those depth 150 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: charts are loaded. So if a kid, well, first off, 151 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how you wouldn't already know that from 152 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: day one. But if you didn't know that and then 153 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: someone all of a sudden walks in the door and says, 154 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: have you seen this Clumson depth chart, I don't know 155 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: if you're to be able to start there. If that's 156 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: all it takes to turn that kid away, you did 157 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: me a favor because he was probably gonna come here 158 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: and wash out even if I ended up signing him. 159 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: So I'd want to know about the motivation approach. I'd 160 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: want to know about the recruiting approach. I'd also want 161 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: to know what his plan is for NIO, And that's 162 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: before I ever share our vision as a university. Just 163 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: want to know where he is, what wavelength the's on, 164 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: how good a grasp does he have on that, how 165 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: good a grasp does he have around the ability to 166 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: market the program. And you'll notice in all these questions 167 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: there's something missing. I haven't asked a football question yet, 168 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: hadn't asked a single x's and o's scheme, philosophy. I 169 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: hadn't asked anything like that yet. I'm getting to that, 170 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: but I'd want to know all these things in advance. 171 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm a believer the head coach role over the next 172 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: decade is going to morph into something that is far 173 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: more CEO than we've ever seen it in the sport. 174 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you won't have football minded people. What 175 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I am saying is the door is going to open. 176 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: I think I did a segment on this about a 177 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: month ago, where you're going to have a lot of 178 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: guys from atypical paths, atypical avenues, rising to head coaching positions. 179 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: And what they're going to be able to do is, 180 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: while they may not wow you on a grease board, 181 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: they'll have plentiful resources to hire the right football minds. 182 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: They're going to be the right leaders for the program. 183 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: They're going to be the right face, the right marketer. 184 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: The three tiered approach we talked about the other day 185 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: that I think is going to be the key to 186 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: the future of NIL. The programs that capitalize on the 187 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: NIL and transfer portal era are the ones that have 188 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: the university foundation. They got a strong football program, and 189 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: then they understand how to be a marketing firm. So 190 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: I got to have a head coach that grasps at 191 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: least two of the three. I'll take care of the university, 192 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: and me and the president we'll take care of that. 193 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: But you got to take care of football. You got 194 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: to take care of marketing, or at the very least, 195 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: you got to have the right philosophy to hire the 196 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: right people. And then after I get through all these 197 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: and I got to have a check mark, by the way, 198 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: in all these boxes or close to it. If we 199 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: get through all that and I think we got the 200 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: right guy, then I've got the brightest football minds that 201 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: I know that are on my committee with me. I'm 202 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: not hiring a search committee, by the way, doing it 203 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: the old fashioned way. I got football guys that are 204 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: then going to take these candidates and they're gonna drill them. 205 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit there and watch. I'm not gonna participate 206 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot in that. That's not my wheelhouse. I'm 207 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: just the ad. But I know that I've got the 208 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: right guys to vet that man from a football standpoint. 209 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I just vetted him from a character and leadership standpoint 210 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: and a vision standpoint, and if we got checks in 211 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: all the boxes, then I'm extending an offer. This is amazing. 212 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: This has got to be what Hank felt like the 213 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: first time he came to Nashville. Okay, Jake is up next, 214 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Jake says Tennessee. Question here. Theoretically, let's say they were 215 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: to return to a nationally prominent contending team within five years. 216 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: If that happens, what steps do you think Josh Hipel 217 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: would have taken in order to set them up for 218 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: success in the upcoming seasons. I came up with four 219 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: bullet points. These were off the top of my head, 220 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: so you guys can feel free to add. I think 221 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: if we're five years from now, so the twenty twenty 222 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: sixth season, Tennessee is a national title contender, I think 223 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: he has to have recruited at least three consecutive top 224 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: five classes. Remember how hard it is to win a title, 225 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: by the way, so you've got to be up there. 226 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not talking about a team that can 227 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: go ten and two you're speaking legitimately about a team 228 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: that can win a title, so you've got to be recruiting. 229 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I think at least three classes in that top five, 230 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: if not inside the top five level. I think they 231 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: got to totally redefine the culture. These are in no 232 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: particular order. The culture obviously comes first, but they have 233 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: to have totally redefined that. Not just internally, although there's 234 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: a huge internal element I'm about to hit on in 235 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: a second. They have to have also redefined from a 236 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: marketing standpoint, from a messaging standpoint, what Tennessee football is. Ultimately, 237 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: you do that on the field, but not totally because 238 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: I think we can again look at Georgia Tech, and 239 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: I think people feel differently about Georgia Tech right now 240 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: than they did three years ago. And they haven't won anything. 241 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: They've won three games each of the last two years, 242 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: but there's a huge difference in the energy level and 243 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: the optimism level, and that's because they changed the messaging 244 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: and now, ultimately you got to get it done on 245 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: the field. I think that's what year three is going 246 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: to be four with Tech and Jeff Collins. But I 247 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: also look at Josh Hipel and obviously they're in the 248 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: remitive stages of that, but they'd have to do the 249 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: same thing. They would have to then look internally and 250 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: cultivate what I call the Clemson factor. Here's what the 251 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Clemson factor is. You know, no matter how good you message, 252 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: no matter how good you handle your business from the inside, 253 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: a sizeable portion of the college football public is never 254 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: going to buy in until they actually see Tennessee do it, 255 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: because it's been so long since they've done it. There 256 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: is a again, a sizable portion of the college football 257 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: public that doesn't believe it's possible. I'm not one of them. 258 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I think it'd be really hard. I'm not one of 259 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: them thinks it's impossible. But I don't think I'm in 260 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: the majority there. I think I'm in the minority. A 261 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: lot more people I have spoken to think it's just impossible. 262 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Now the sport is passed Tennessee by I've told you why. 263 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: I think that's wrong. But you would have to cultivate 264 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: the Clemson factor because people said that about Clemson too. 265 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: If I were to tell you in twenty ten, even 266 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: when they were pretty good over there, like they had 267 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: some nice, solid years. But if I told you, I know, 268 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: things look good, right, now under Tommy Bowden. But there's 269 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: going to come a time where they're in the national 270 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: championship several years. They're going to win two of them 271 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: over the span of three years. They're going to be 272 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: there consistently. They'll be one of, and in some cases, 273 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: if not one of, in many minds, the top program 274 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: in America. For a little stretch, you would have thought 275 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: I was outside of my mind, and so it didn't matter. 276 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: That didn't keep Clemson from achieving it. But most of 277 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: the college football public would have laughed at that sentiment. 278 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Even if you got all the things in order over 279 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: there that you need to, even if you plant all 280 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: the right seeds and you got the soil turned the 281 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: right way, turned the right way, there you go, God, 282 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: bless all our farmers still listening after that, Even if 283 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: you have everything in order, some people just aren't going 284 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: to believe in you. Period. They had everything in order 285 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: at Clemson, as it turned out, no one believed. It 286 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: didn't matter though. You notice that they just kind of 287 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: put their blinders on, They kind of closed the door. 288 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: They laughed at what was being said on the outside, 289 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: and they cultivated themselves from within. They created a unique 290 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: culture there Clemson is it's very closed off in some ways, 291 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: but I don't say that in a bad way. It's 292 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: a really good thing because they have something there that 293 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: works and they don't really care what the rest of 294 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: college football thinks about it. They didn't then they don't 295 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: now now that it's proven. They really don't care what 296 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: you think about it. And so you got to do 297 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: that at Tennessee too. So you'd have to cultivate to 298 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: Clemson factor. And then you've got to nail the staff hires. 299 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: You've got a nail quarterback signing, you got a nail 300 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: quarterback development. And also this NCAA cloud has to dissolve 301 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: and it has to have long since disappeared distantly into 302 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: the rearview mirror by the time we're talking about here, Jake, 303 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of fitting Jordan that we have. 304 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Jordan's not in the room. I'm just talking to him. 305 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: He's going to hear this like twelve hours later. But Jordan, 306 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, now that I mention it, it's nice that 307 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: we have this really soothing music. I could picture this 308 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: being played in the lobby in the waiting area of 309 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: like a Japanese restaurant with coy pond over there and 310 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: it's just soothing. It just it lowers the heart rate 311 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's good because it fits right 312 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: with Cole's question. Cole is asking about memories. Cole said, 313 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: I know your inbox is undoubtedly bombarded on a daily basis, 314 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: but ma'am, I just love to know how you got started. Well, 315 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: Cole is bombarded, but it's bombarded with the right stuff, 316 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: namely questions like this or requests like this. I do 317 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: a lot in our zoom consultations. Any of you who 318 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: do that, Josh Pait seven zero six at gmail dot 319 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: com if you want one. By the way, any of 320 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: you who do that. A lot of people ask how 321 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: did this happen? And I'll give the really, really condensed version. 322 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: When I came out of high school, I had zero 323 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: clue really what I wanted to do. Now, I knew 324 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I had a passion for certain things, but I had 325 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: no idea how to make it happen. I was really 326 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: wasting time in college, and so I went I was 327 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: on Hope scholarship, that's the lottery scholarship system down in Georgia. 328 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: So I was in college, but I was just wasting time, 329 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: and so I kind of floated in and out of college. 330 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: One semester in, one semester out, and I was working 331 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: at a fabric warehouse. I'd listen to sports talk radio 332 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: all day. What would happen is we've come into the 333 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: morning and me and a coworker Street named Captain Will, 334 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: we would unload the Southeastern Freight truck and then we 335 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: get all the rolls checked in, and then we would 336 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: listen to Colin Cowherd show. In that case, he was 337 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: on ESPN Radio back in the day. And then that'd 338 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: get us to lunch, and then you come back from 339 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: lunch and then you hopefully have There was a litany 340 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: of shows. It's like a merry go round, but hopefully 341 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: you have something to get you to the local show, 342 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: and then the local show would take you home. Well, 343 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: I listened to all those shows, but that local show 344 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: there in the Columbus market. I got to know the 345 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: program director who was also the on air afternoon drive host, 346 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: Bobby Z who is now up in Wisconsin doing his thing. 347 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: But I got to know him and he let me 348 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: come in and observe some shows, and eventually his co 349 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: host got sick one day, so I just got thrown 350 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: on air. I had no preparation, I had no way 351 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: of knowing what was going to happen. But man, I 352 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: had done so much dry run stuff. I had done 353 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: so many hours and hours, hundreds of hours of practice. 354 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: And I've detailed to some of you how I practiced 355 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: very weird stuff. Don't want to get into it. It's 356 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: not illegal, it's just weird. I talked. I did mock 357 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: radio interviews in my truck, driving around all day instead 358 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: of listening to the radio. That's how I practiced. So 359 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: he said, man, who you say you work for? And 360 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: I told him I don't. I've never done radio before, 361 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: and he thought I was lying, but he put me 362 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: on air and never took me off air. And a 363 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: couple years later, local TV station there and Columbus called 364 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: up and said, we want you to do a weeknight 365 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: college football show US. So I did, and then I 366 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: ended up being the sports anchor there, and then the 367 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: sports director, and then I got elevated to news anchor. 368 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: But I could not get what I wanted, and what 369 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I wanted was to do my own college football show. 370 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: And so it came time for contract negotiation and I 371 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: sit there and I'm renegotiating, and I can't get it. 372 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: It's nice, it's a nice extension. Now nice money, but 373 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: I can't get what I want, and so I offered 374 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: a counter. I turned him down, which no one ever 375 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: did around there. I turned him down, came back with 376 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: a counter a few weeks later, and I said, how 377 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: about this. I'll work independent contract for you. You just 378 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: ten ninety nine meter you pay me per show. I'll 379 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: still be your news anchor in the morning. No one 380 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: at home will know the difference. It's going to save 381 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: you a lot of money. I won't be a salaried employee, 382 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: no benefits. But here's what I do want. I want 383 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: the studio, and I want the ability to bring in 384 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: my own staff, and I want to do a live 385 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: college football show on a YouTube channel I own, three 386 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: nights a week. And they said, heck, yeah, this is 387 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: a deal. This is a jackpot for us. And so 388 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I did it. And about a year and a half later, 389 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: CBS Sports twenty four to seven Sports Shannon Terry calls 390 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: me up one day. I let it go to voicemail 391 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: because I did not know it was him, and so 392 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I call him back and essentially the message was whatever 393 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: you're doing. Just come do it for us. Don't care, 394 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: just come do it for us. And so that's how 395 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: I got up here. Now that's the short version. There's 396 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: an hour long version that I could tell you sometime, 397 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: but that's essentially how that happened. Cole. But imagine this, 398 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: long before I ever got in front of a live microphone. 399 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: I love this stuff just like I do today. I 400 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: loved it. Not only did I love college football. I 401 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: was fascinated by sports media like many of you are. 402 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: That's why I do some of those sessions I do. 403 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I was fascinated by both. Think about finding a career 404 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: at the intersection of that. Just think about what that's 405 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: like for me, finding a career at the intersection of 406 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: that and just being able to make ends meet with it, 407 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: but then elevating to one of the biggest sports media 408 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: companies in the country, and then being given autonomy and 409 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: being given creative control and being able to create what 410 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: you want, but finally having resources to do it and 411 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: having nice studios and good equipment and really really high 412 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: level professional people around you. If you ever wonder why 413 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like I'm over here guvnov having fun, it's 414 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: cause I am because I have figured out what so 415 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: many people want to figure out how to do, and 416 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: that is to make a living doing what you love 417 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: to do. Used to always be told that when I 418 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: was at Harris County High School, any motivational speaker they 419 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: had come through, they'd tell us, find the intersection of 420 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: your passion and your talent. You'll never work a day 421 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: in your life. Just find a career at that intersection. 422 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: I never forgot it. Never forgot that advice. Took a 423 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: long time. Now. The fabric warehouse down in Columbus was 424 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: not exactly the intersection of either one of those. It 425 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: was off, almost off the grid entirely. But I have 426 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: a lot of fun when I do these consultations. I 427 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. I will not present any illusions. 428 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: It is extremely hard to get up here. It's extremely 429 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: hard to do it. Most people are going to quit. 430 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Ninety eight to ninety nine percent of them are going 431 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: to quit. That's the beauty of it, that grind. When 432 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: you're making no money, what's really happening every day, unbeknownst 433 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: to you, is the tens of thousands of people who 434 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: you're competing against in different markets, different corners of the country. 435 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: One by one, dozen by dozen, they're quitting per day. 436 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: It's too hard. They can't continue. And every day you 437 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: just get up and go back to work is a 438 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: day that you thinned out the herd a little bit more, 439 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: even though you can't see him, because all you can 440 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: see is you. But there's a guy in Tacoma, Washington 441 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: that quit today. There's a guy in Evansville, Indiana that 442 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: quit today. There's a guy down in Houston that quit today. 443 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: And just because you kept going, even if you had 444 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: a terrible day, you kept going, then you got a 445 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: little bit closer, and the herd just thinned out a 446 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: little bit more. But my point always is, and I'll 447 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: just say this, Cole, in case anyone's listening who hasn't 448 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: done one of these sessions with me, there has never 449 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: been a more wide open opportunity for non traditional paths 450 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: into sports media than there is right now. Technology has 451 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: opened the door. It has kicked the door down. The 452 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: overhead and distribution in our industry used to be what 453 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: you needed, overhead being a physical studio, distribution being networks essentially, 454 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: or the ability to syndicate yourself and guess who held 455 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: the keys to that general managers at TV stations. That's 456 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: who held the key. You got a phone in your hand. 457 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: You just circumvented all that. And so now you find talent, 458 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: and you find talent all over the place, and they're 459 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: not all due respect, they're not just being rolled off 460 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: the assembly line at Missouri or Northwestern or Grady up 461 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: at Georgia. They're all over the place. Some of them 462 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: didn't even finish college. Some of them got a high 463 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: school degree under their belt, but more knowledge, wisdom, and 464 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: talent than a lot of folks who have that four 465 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: year degree on their wall. If you've got the work ethic, 466 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: and you've got the talent, and you understand what it 467 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: means to truly be a professional at something instead of 468 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: just doing it, you will be discovered. They will not 469 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: hide you. You can't be hidden forever. And let me 470 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: also tell you this, Long before I got the call 471 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: from here, I had started to make a pretty darn 472 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: good living on my own independently through that YouTube channel. 473 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: In six months, I was making more than what my 474 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: salary had been as a news anchor. Just to give 475 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: you a little idea of what's possible there. If you 476 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: understand how to build a tribe. As they constantly tell 477 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: you in the consultations that the media companies make you 478 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: sit through. If you can build a tribe, if you 479 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: can find a way to attract an audience, like if 480 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: you have that organically within you, then sky's the limit today, 481 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: sky is the limit. So that's the way we built 482 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: the Lake Kick brand. Pure authenticity that'll never cease. I 483 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: talked to the executives here at CBS a lot about that, 484 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: about how even as we elevate this show, even as 485 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: we put more resources into this show, we're not shaving 486 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: the authenticity away from it. There may be some bells 487 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: and whistles on it, but we're not changing the way 488 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: we produce this thing. I would want to quit before 489 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: I had this fundamentally altered, as you would expect me to, 490 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: because that's what you have come to expect. And so, 491 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the sole responsibility we have when we produce 492 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: this stuff is to give you what you want, and 493 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: hopefully we're doing that. I at least know we're doing 494 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: it when we do stuff like this, Oh, stretching that 495 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: creative muscle so hard right now, we could pull it 496 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: so Capital NCAA had a question, He said, what would 497 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: it take for a team like Nebraska or Michigan to 498 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: actually become a championship contender. It's kind of some of 499 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: the same things we were talking about earlier in different context. 500 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: It starts it well, it starts with recruiting in general. 501 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: So we got to build a certain level. Now you 502 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: could argue with me semantically about does it need to 503 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: be a perennial top five level, does it need to 504 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: be top eight, top eleven, twelve. It's got to be 505 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: up there. Okay, it's got to be way better than 506 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: either one of them have done, especially Nebraska. Now Michigan 507 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: has been pretty good there. I think they'd have to 508 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: bump it up another level. But see, even with Michigan 509 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: bumping it up another level, or Nebraska for several years 510 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: bumping it up several levels, it all comes back to quarterback. 511 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all it comes down to. I know 512 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: it sounds lazy to keep saying that, but if you 513 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: watch the games on Saturdays in the fall, it's not lazy. 514 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: It's just reality. Same answer to about fourteen different questions. 515 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: So that have to do that. We have to confirm 516 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: that they've got the right head coaches there, which is 517 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: just crazy if we go back to twenty fourteen and 518 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: ask ourselves that about Jim Harboy, it was such a 519 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: slam dunk. I thought that too, such a slam dunk 520 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: that was going to be the least of Michigan's concerns 521 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: is do they have the right head coach? And to 522 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean, didn't a lot of 523 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: people think that about Scott Frost when he went to Nebraska. 524 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I think they did. I think the biggest fear right 525 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: now in the minds of a lot of Nebraska fans 526 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: is we thought we had the right guy, and their 527 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: biggest fear is they do have the right guy. What 528 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: if we do have the right guy and this is 529 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: just evidence that we can't do it here anymore. That's 530 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: the big fear. It wouldn't be the worst thing in 531 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: the world if they found out Scott Frost was just 532 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: fool's gold. It would be the worst thing in the 533 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: world if he was the real deal, if he left 534 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: Nebraska and went back somewhere else and started winning again immediately. 535 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: So great success at UCF, great success at fill in 536 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: the blank, and there's just terribleness in between. And Nebraska 537 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: is the exception to the rule. Now, I guess you'd 538 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: call it. The answers to these questions are not hard. 539 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: You gotta recruit, well, you gotta get quarterback right, you 540 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: got to have the staff in place, and well, at 541 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: that point you give yourself a shot. But we got 542 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: to do all those things at a high level. The 543 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: formula is not hard to figure out. The hard thing 544 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: to figure out is can you get the right guy 545 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: in place? At Nebraska you asked that question. At Michigan 546 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: you ask do you have the right guy in place? 547 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Because you once thought you did, and now we start 548 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: to ask that question more and more every year. That's 549 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: the question. It's not how could they do it? It's 550 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: can they do it? Johnny's got a question that a 551 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: lot of you ask in some shape, form or fashion, 552 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: and it's about not the teams that have already made 553 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the playoff, maybe the next one that hasn't already made it. 554 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: Who is that hoops? Is that out there? Which brand? 555 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Which helmet? Will that be? Well, I'll try and answer 556 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: it the best I can. Right after this, so, Johnny says, 557 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: since the beginning of the college Football Playoff, only ten 558 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: teams have made it. Well, who's going to be the 559 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: eleventh and why now you know? My immediate answer here 560 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: was Oregon, because I keep forgetting that Oregon already made it. 561 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: It was just back at the very beginning of the playoffs. 562 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: So it can't be Oregon. It also can't be Florida State. 563 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: Florida State's made it too, they got trounced by Oregon 564 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: the first round of the first playoff. But who could 565 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: it be? I think a lot of folks may lean 566 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Southern cal here. They just assumed, well, if Southern cal 567 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: ever gets it together, they're in a winnable conference, and 568 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: I could roll with that. I think a lot of 569 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: folks may say Iowa State. But to me, your roll 570 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: in the dice this year on Iowa State, I think 571 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: the closest they'll get for excuse me, we the closest 572 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: will get for several years would be this year. So 573 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: you got to put all your eggs to me in 574 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty one basket. And I want longevity. I 575 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: want several shots at this thing. That's why I would 576 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: look at North Carolina. North Carolina is the program I 577 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: would go with. I also think Wisconsin would be a 578 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: decent roll of the dice. Maybe Michigan would be a 579 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: decent roll of the dice. Now what you're having to 580 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: look at there or maybe in both cases, and you 581 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: can throw Miami into the mix here if you want to. 582 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: I think what you're trying to look at is not 583 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: are they going to overtake Clemson or are they going 584 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: to overtake Ohio State? You're asking is there room for 585 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: a second team out of that conference? So the assumption 586 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: is if Clemson has a great year and your only loss, 587 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: if you're in North Carolina is to them competitively, could 588 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: there be a second ACC slot for that reason? A 589 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: and M also fits here, so as you can clearly tell, 590 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: I don't have one answer, but I would narrow it 591 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: down to, like, let's say Michigan, Wisconsin. I wanted to 592 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: put Penns stayed in there. Still think they're little ways away, though, 593 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put Wisconsin and or Michigan. Let's go Wisconsin. 594 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Wisconsin, and I'm gonna put Texas, A 595 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: and M. And I'm gonna put North Carolina. And out 596 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: of those three you can take your pick, because I'm 597 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: not quite ready to do that. And we got a 598 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: long summer ahead of us where maybe we'll whittle that down. 599 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: We roll on. That was the first court in Fleetwood 600 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: Mac's dreams. By the way, we roll on here with Melissa. 601 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: Melissa says, I love those Instagram videos you've been putting up. 602 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Melissa, thank you for noticing several of you have. 603 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Melissa speaking for all of you. But Melissa asked a question. 604 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad she asked it because I never would have 605 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: even thought that this came to anyone's mind. She asks, 606 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: where in the world is all that footage coming from 607 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: that you post? Do fans send it to you? No, Melissa, 608 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: they don't. So this is what I've kind of been 609 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: hinting at and teasing ahead to, looking ahead to for 610 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: the fall. I'm at games every week. I get to 611 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: pick I mean I get to set my entire schedule. Essentially, 612 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: I picked the game I want to go to every weekend. 613 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: They get me there, you know, make sure I get 614 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: back in time for the Sunday night show. But I'll 615 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: be on the sideline. Press box will be all over 616 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: the place, and so I have my phone with me, 617 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: and so I record a whole lot of that stuff. 618 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: I just record a ton of footage and I'm scrolling 619 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: through the eye Josh the other day. It was about 620 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: a month ago actually, and I realized, way, I got 621 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: all this backlogged footage I've never even used, And so 622 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm taking Instagram seriously, Now, why don't I just start 623 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: dumping some of this on there in the off season, 624 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: knowing that come Fall, I'm gonna have new stuff every 625 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: week for you. So come fall a little be bonkers 626 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: on there. What I typically do is I go to 627 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: a game and I just start filling up that Instagram story, 628 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: which for those unfamiliar, is just updates, real time updates, 629 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: and you look at it. It stays up twenty four hours, 630 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and you'll look at a college football Saturday. In my story, 631 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: it may go twenty twenty five posts deep, and they're 632 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: all good. I don't just record trash. So it's a 633 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that you won't get to see. It's 634 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: a lot of behind the scenes stuff. It's a lot 635 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: of all access field stuff, warm ups, locker room, wherever 636 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: we are. And so I put all that up there. 637 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: But to answer your question, Melissa, no, that's all my footage. 638 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: That all comes straight out of the old eye, Josh, 639 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: whether it's my current one or an old one, and 640 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: I've transferred the footage. So yeah, Melissa, that's all mean. 641 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. I never knew that that was 642 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: even a question on anyone's mind. And by the way, 643 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: if you want to follow, I encourage you to at 644 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: late kick josh over on Instagram. Let's move on here. 645 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: We still got several to get to. Okay, we got 646 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: to rapid fire some of these, and the reason I'm 647 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: going to rapid fire is not in a disrespectful manner. 648 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: Some of these I'm gonna get to, Like for instance, Spencer, 649 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Spencer asked, well, actually he demanded a state of the 650 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: Utah Utes football program segment. So what I'm gonna do, Spencer, 651 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: is after we get out of all of Spring, there 652 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: are going to be a lot of programs like this. 653 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: Michigan State's one of them, Utah's one of them. There's 654 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: several of them that I want to get to. But 655 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing a post spring So these are basically the 656 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: programs I don't have as many ties to. Therefore I 657 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: don't get a constant flow of information, but I will 658 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: have plenty enough on the plate to do something after 659 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: all of Spring balls wrapped up. So let's table that one. 660 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Also Daniel said, do you think the next round of 661 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: conference realignment will be as active as the last? Short 662 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: answer is I'm not quite sure, Daniel. But that's also 663 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: something that we're going to tell at length during the summer. 664 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is not I have 665 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: the specific date nailed down. I have people I love 666 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: to talk to about this that are far more informed 667 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: than myself actual decision makers on that front. Let's just 668 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: leave it at that, And so I like to always 669 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: bounce stuff off of them. These are not people who 670 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: are just available to talk every day, but over the 671 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: course of the X season of they are. So we'll 672 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: get in touch with those people and I'll have a 673 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: lot more informed take. I could just blurt something out. 674 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: A lot of you think I do that anyway, but 675 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: I try not to. And so let's table that one. 676 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: Daniel again said, if you could pick one player that 677 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: most closely defines the minimum requirement at quarterback to win 678 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: a national title, who would it be? This is one 679 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to. So this to me sounds 680 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: like Sam Ellinger, and this is a recent history thing, 681 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: so I didn't go back very far. And what Daniel 682 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: is essentially saying is if you got the right team, 683 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: if you got the right pieces, you got good enough receivers, 684 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: good enough coaching staff. How good do you have to be? 685 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: What's the worst you could be? I guess he's asking 686 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: minimum requirement, talent level, maturity, decision making, physical nature, all 687 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. Sam Ellinger, to me, is the answer here. Now. 688 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger was a really good quarterback, and what held 689 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: him down was not Sam Ellinger. It was a lot 690 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: of other things around Texas. But if I were to 691 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: drop Ellinger, I'm not even gonna say ou. If I 692 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: were to drop Ellinger, let's say on Georgia's roster two 693 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: years ago or last year, the whole season, they would 694 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: have been a national championship contender. They certainly would have 695 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: been good enough to be in the running. I'm not 696 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: saying they would have won it, but he would have 697 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: been good enough to do that. So Sam Allinger is 698 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: the guy. I don't think you can go far below 699 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: that level, only cause when you're going below that level, 700 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: remember ultimately, when you get there, you're gonna have to 701 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: beat Justin Fields or a Mac Jones or a Trevor Lawrence. 702 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be that good or you're gonna 703 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 1: have to have a team that is good enough to 704 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: beat them at their best what you're gonna get in 705 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: the playoff. So my answer there was Sam Ellinger. But 706 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: I'll be really interested if any of you have thoughts 707 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: on that. What is the minimum requirement? And you got 708 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: to use an actual data point, So pick an actual 709 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: player minimum requirement. You could take that player, put him 710 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: on an otherwise championship caliber team. Who's it going to 711 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: be for you? That's a really really interesting with we 712 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: can crowdsource that question. Xavier asked about the Tennessee quarterback situation. 713 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pause that one because we're going to talk 714 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: about it a whole lot on Late Kick Live tonight. 715 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: As you can see, we're bookmarking a whole lot here. 716 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: I promise I'm gonna get to all of them tonight. 717 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about a lot of the spring games 718 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. So we've got just off the 719 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: top of my head, I know Tennessee, South Carolina, Ole, 720 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: Miss Texas, A and M in the SEC. We're going 721 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: to talk about North Carolina, We're going to talk about Texas. 722 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: I know Oklahoma's this weekend, Michigan State. I thinks this weekend, 723 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: so we've got a whole lot of teams to get 724 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: to and obviously when we talk about Tennessee, we'll talk 725 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation there. So we've got a loaded 726 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: show coming up tonight. If I did not get to 727 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: any of your questions, they're all here. I did not 728 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: skip over any of the non evergreen questions, so if 729 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: they're evergreen, they'll be relevant next week. So if I 730 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: didn't get to them already, I'll get to them. And 731 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: if you want to submit a question, Josh Pait seven 732 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com or on Twitter and 733 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: or Instagram at Late Kick Josh, make sure you're following 734 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: hellowing there. Any of you who are giving shout outs 735 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: to my Instagram page in your story, thank you for that. 736 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm keeping note. Thank you very much for that, and 737 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: thank you for all the traction you guys have continued 738 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: to give the show because we don't pay a dime 739 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: to promote this thing, so it's really up to you 740 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: and you do a phenomenal job. So for producer Jordan, 741 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: I am Josh Pate. Thanks for listening to Late Kick Extra. 742 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: We'll see you later tonight on LATEKIK Live on the 743 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel. Until then, have 744 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: a great Thursday and God bless