WEBVTT - 'Top 100' debate & mailbag 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:07.760 Be Around the NFL Podcast. Can't fight this feeling anymore. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.520 Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.400 My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:19.760 room Field with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Lindsay Rhodes, who, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.600 by the way, Smith, Ario Speedwagon not a one hit wonder? 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.600 Uh no, absolutely not. Yeah, we're talking our nineties one 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.240 hit wonders on the last show Money just delivering the 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.760 the high octave there, very impressive. Were they a one 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:41.800 hit wonder? Three or four big hits? Okay? Yeah? I 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.680 feel like Orio Speedwagon when I was like an elementary 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.480 school on a depressing Sunday driving around with my mom 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.360 doing Errand's obviously Ario Speedwagon on the radio. Do you 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:58.200 remember the movie Last American Virgin came out, but you 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.440 watch it regularly? My friends and I in high school 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.640 would watch it because it had the best soundtrack of 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.280 all time, but you could never find the soundtracks, so 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.960 it was like the mythical great sound inside by the soundtrack, 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.160 it wasn't available inside sixty seconds on West's first nine 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:20.440 reference early eighties references. Um, alright, great show today. Oh man, 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.199 it's so happy to have Lindsay here. I'm so happy 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.240 to have Lindsay here. Welcome back, Lindsay. How are you. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.080 I'm doing really well, especially now that I'm here. I've 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.440 missed you, guys. I mean, aside from the fact that 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.039 you sit right next to me in the news room, right, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.960 I've missed you in this environment. Very good and you 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.240 are just plowing through. The Top one is down to 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:42.200 the last ten now Top ten. Yeah, has been a 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.000 good experience for you. It's been fun. You've enjoyed it. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.920 I have, I have very much. So Top ten's always 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.440 top ten. Top one is always fun for me. I 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.360 like the show. Yeah that is that is your baby. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.680 You are really the face of the Top one, as 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:57.120 we talked about, which means with Lindsay here, we're gonna 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.360 get into some Top one uh more specifically, you know, 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.080 maybe some issues we have at the Top one hunder 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.320 because Lindsay, we're not now that we we all kind 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:06.880 of know each other a little better, now we can 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.720 tell you that there has been some issues with the 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.680 Top one in this room in the past, where people 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.760 rank and whether what kind of activity it is, and 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.680 maybe we'll dig into it a little bit. That's no 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.000 shock to me. You're it's like you're apologizing to I 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.920 didn't make the list, apologies, just you know, laying it 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:28.160 out there that you know maybe potentially it is a potentially. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.240 So we're gonna talk about that. Are issues with the 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.280 top one hundred? Also, Uh, you know, as you promised, 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.560 we're gonna hit that mail bag up at the old 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.760 mail bag? Did you do a mail bag with us 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.079 last time? I can't remember. I can't remember. I don't 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.160 think so. Ye, that's exactly what we did. Very different. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.280 It's good. That's right. Well, maybe we'll bring that back 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:53.680 next week. Uh uh, what's your fancy? Of course, but 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.280 not today. We're gonna do the mail bag. We're gonna 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.360 counter or back on the phone first. Now I know, Lindsay, 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.040 you have not been around for this yet. Were you 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.320 kidding me? It's a weekly segment where Connor, our New 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.880 Jersey correspondent, gets something off his chest, and that's gonna 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.600 that's gonna be part of the show today. I'm excited. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.440 Are hard hitting social topics of the day. I feel 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.520 like you just went Canadian or something on that you 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.400 have to emphasize the ore. Maybe it was that you 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:27.079 just sounded happier than normal, and I'm onto you ever 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.880 since West grews goatee seems a little bit happier. There's 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.280 a bounce in my step a little bit. But it's 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.640 working with the ladies. He tells me, well, that's not 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.560 exactly what I said. No, that was that was the 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.600 point of what you said. I've had more conversations with 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.160 strange women. That's I think what I said. And they 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.640 were flawed. Yes, that was my follow up question, and 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.080 he said that's a given, all right, And now we 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.760 go behind the glass. It's t D. Now let's let's 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.360 keep it real here. T D was not a part 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.880 of the show on Tuesday. No coincidence that coming after 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.960 the Thursday show where he gave us the lava mikes 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.200 and it led to a lot of technical difficulties. It 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.760 was a one show suspension, but he's back. Welcome t D. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.480 What is going on, guys, And um, I'm appealing that suspension. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.839 You know, I was completely doing it for the team. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.800 Is kind of how you take a tackle injection, or 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.479 you know, you you hit a guy back from hitting 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.080 your teammate. Because I'm you know, I'm looking ahead to 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.719 the season, looking ahead of what we can be doing 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.560 as a team, the video team. Interesting strategy to appeal 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.560 the suspension after you service. It's funny you bring up 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.400 suspensions will be getting too many today we will spension. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.360 But I also want to say that it was a 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.200 show that it didn't fight too far for the show 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:40.600 I would I wouldn't fight too hard to be on 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.000 because I mean that guy in Mark Sessler is back. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.960 You know, you know, you know it always goes back 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:51.720 to shot smart black professionalism for roughly the entire summer, 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.360 So I'm not surprised to hear anything that you say. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.240 I would say this. It's kind of like Jamie Fox. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.919 I'm not a huge fan of Jamie Fox the actor. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:00.839 I'm a big fan of j Me Fox the artist, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.479 great R and B songs. Same thing with you. I 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:07.719 love your Instagram. It's a regular Jackson Pollock the podcaster. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.239 I don't know, just saying, well, listen, I'm not coming 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:15.039 off of one game suspension for not being well. It 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.440 was not appealed. You served it and rightly, so happy 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.719 to have you back, Lindsay, do you feel the awkwardness 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.200 in the room. This is like a family busting apart 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.880 at the seems I feel like I'm a Thanksgiving All 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.560 of a sudden, I was going to say the same thing. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.400 This reminds me of a lot of Thanksgiving dinners from 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.480 the early nineties. I'm having a good song. It's good 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.039 to be in a room with a fellow Emmy winner 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:39.240 like lindsay herself. For Emmy Reel, what I was wondering 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.160 where that one when that was coming in? You actually 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.880 showed some restraint before dropping. Can we just hear it again? 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:52.520 Click that for Emmy Reel? What? I love that he 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.160 brought up the Emmy's just so he could segue himself. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.320 I'll wake up every morning. All right, let's do some news. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:02.640 I heard about a third fight between you and a 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:07.520 polym behind closed doors. How do you know all this? 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:13.880 I'm a son, right, Neil Zeus? Is you know a 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.719 little soft spot he hit? Anything Rocky related? I'm excited 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.039 about Creed that trailer. I love me some Michael B. Jordan's. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.560 That's if I was if I was acting, which I'm not, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.640 but if I was there, I feel like me and 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.599 Michael B. Would be up for the same rose. God, yeah, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.839 I could see that. I can see that abol behind 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.000 the glass. It's so funny you just said that, Denzel. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.960 Go ahead, I want to know if that did that 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.600 clip have to do with anything that we're about to discuss, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.800 or was that just an excuse to play a movie 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:48.120 clip that you enjoyed. Yes, exactly, Mark, Okay, you understands 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.279 me sometimes. But I mean it's a great trailer. Everyone's 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.960 been talking and that was probably the best part of 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.960 the trailer to me. He delivered that line so well. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.440 It could have been cheesy, could have It's kind of 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.160 like when a movie says it's name title, I'll get 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.600 a little Rocky. Are you familiar with the franchise? I am, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.040 I do. I do remember much of it goes to 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.919 young when I watched it. Well, the part where he 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.720 says I heard there was a fight behind the scenes. 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.640 That was at the end of Rocky three. They meet 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.000 up in the church, just Rocky and Apollo after Rocky 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.040 beats club or Lange and they The movie freeze frames 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.320 on the two of them connected, then turns into a 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:25.000 painted yes they lettered, Yes alright. It's like a regular 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.000 Friday night in Kevin Patrick's world. Sell, he says, this 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.600 is a start of Rocky four. What Sell? He says, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.280 that's not not Rocky three, started Rocky four. Now they'd 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.400 redo it again in four too, but it originally happens 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.280 at three. Right, was Rocky five, the one with the 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.760 Hammer song in it? Yes? Okay, yeah, that's the less 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:47.320 talked about that movie. We'll get into that, and we'll 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.280 get into Lindsay's pick up one hit Wonder of the 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.520 Nineties a little later on the show. But let's do 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.880 some news now, all right, we'll start. Yes, you know, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.760 it's been very quiet this week in the news, and 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.720 we should have seen this coming because the holiday weekend, 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.400 the official NFL holiday weekend, League office wise closes on Friday's, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.040 which means they had to dump some stuff, and they 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.200 ended up dumping four suspensions on it. So we'll go 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.200 one by one. We'll start. Let's go on descending order 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.680 of in my estimation importance and you guys could you know, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.880 disagree with me, but we'll start with San Diego. In 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.560 San Diego or Antonio Gates, one of the best players 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.720 in the history of that franchise, has been suspended four 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:32.679 games for violating the league's policy on performance enhancing substances. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.960 Uh Gates, Well, doesn't look like Gates is gonna appeal this. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.839 He He said that uh he had been taking some 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.680 supplements and quote holistic medicines in an effort to recover 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.000 from this past season. A trigger depositive test which triggers 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.120 a four game band without pay. It keeps keeps them 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.640 out of games against the Lions, Bengals, Vikings and Browns, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.439 and um Antonio Gates accepted it. The responsibilities that I 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.000 am under. I understand that I am responsible for what 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.920 is in my body, and I always believed that ignorance 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.200 is no excuse when it comes to these issues. I 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.600 take full responsibility for my actions. Uh, Mark will start 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.520 with you your thoughts. Well, last year, we around this 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.560 time tried to paint the narrative that Ladarius Green was 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:19.080 a superstar in the making, and we were incorrect on 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.400 many levels. And he's gonna have to step up and 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.240 play the first four games. I mean tight ends a 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.200 big part of that offense. And you know, Philip Rivers 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.640 and Gates have been in lockstep for ages. So this 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.200 is a loss for their offense. I think absolutely it's 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.400 a loss. But I think that Ladarius Green could start 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.120 for half the teams in the NFL. He's one of 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.320 the fastest tight ends in the league, which is why 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.880 he was on our making the Leap series. And I 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.800 think they'll miss Gates in the red zone. He uses 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.160 his body as well as any tight end outside of Gronk, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.040 I guess, or Jimmy Graham. But um, but Darius Green will. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.040 I think the Charger's offense will be fine with him, 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.640 and there gives him time to know what's gonna happen 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.920 to We had Green as are making the leap guy 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.400 last year. It didn't check out, but he definitely has 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.880 the skills to do it, you know. Yeah, it only 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.920 didn't check out because he didn't get enough playing time. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.960 Antonio Gates was the fantasy community had written him off, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.280 but he was obviously still a good player. That's why 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.200 Green didn't play as much. Your So, uh, this is 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:17.520 what I think of when I hear this, And I 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:21.000 don't want to necessarily attach this thought to Antonio Gates, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.720 but I think of when players are aging at the 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.920 end of their career. I might be more likely, and 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.920 again I don't know anything about this current situation. I 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.040 might be more likely to think that maybe something was 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.200 done on purpose because you get to a certain point 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.120 in your career and you if you are coming off 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.000 an injury or something, it's harder to recover, and it 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.720 becomes a choice sometimes of I can take something that 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.720 I know is illegal that's going to actually fix my 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.120 injury and allow me to recover, and then I'm going 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.560 to continue to play for a couple more years or 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.000 not take that and not be able to play for 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.080 a couple more years and collect that paycheck. And if 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:01.400 I get caught, I could be suspended. But do I 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.679 care versus not getting a paycheck and not playing at all? 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.559 And I I want And I'm not saying that that's 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.400 the case here, but I always wonder that kind of 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.680 when players get up there towards the end of their 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.400 career and just turned thirty five, and it's it's telling 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.360 to me that and again speaks to the beating these 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.920 guys takes during the course of a season, that he 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.600 felt he needed to take these things to recover from 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.720 the season, even though he had a period of months 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.559 for his body to get right. So it tells you 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.640 that he needed to take p d s because again 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.520 he has said in his statement that he didn't take 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.320 anything knowingly, but he did admit to taking some sort 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.520 of supplement or something like that that he didn't know 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.840 it was illegal to recover, so he's taking something. Lindsay, 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.200 a quick rundown of the holistic medicines you are taking 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.680 right now? You could share this with us, Go ahead. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.280 I don't even know what fits into that category. I 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.200 don't even take vitamins, so you don't neither, do I know? 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.400 I'm very unhealthy. Hard to categorize what's going into her 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:59.400 body and yours and mine? And well, why do we 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.040 want to go down that road that I don't full? 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.160 Different type of podcast it is. That's our health Watch podcast, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.120 which will air after our Theology podcast. We got a 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.000 nice like we could we should have like a serious 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.680 XM channel. At this point, who is less qualified to 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.200 talk about health Watch than three of us? Well, that's fair, 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.400 three of us. The three of us, man, I'm sure 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.160 you're much healthier than the three of us. Oh no, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.720 I just told you I'm very unhealthy. Well, well, Lindsay 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.720 sometimes walks by while we're eating lunch and she gets angry. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.600 That maybe not angry, but she's she gets jealous that 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.800 we're eating like nice lunches, and you feel that maybe 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.240 you can't do that. You have like fried chicken and 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.160 fries or something like that, and it like smells and 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.760 it smells delicious, but it's not something that I should 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.040 go purchase from our huddle cafeteria that's typically on West 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:50.640 I don't you know, I often thinks, get well, it's 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.280 always some like gigantic pasta thing wrapped inside like a 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.080 bread roll. Mark doesn't like food. Moving on the next 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.959 suspension UH the New York Jets. My Jets man Sheldon 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:02.920 Richardson has been one of their best players for the 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.480 last couple of years, two thousand thirteen defensive Rookie of 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.160 the Year. He will miss the first four games of 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.160 the year for violating the NFL Policy and Program for 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:17.280 Substances of Abuse UH. Richardson will miss UH four games 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.280 come back after the team's Week four matchup against the Dolphins. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.360 Richardson also this is not going to be an appeal situation. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.600 He apologized to for letting everyone down and all that. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.439 Todd Bowles, Jets coach, called the band disappointing for Sheldon 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.120 and the team. So we don't know exactly what. There's 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.040 some reports out there that what it might be, but 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.320 we don't know what the what the substance of abuse 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.800 is but this is different than Gates who was a 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:47.200 p D and this is uh something else, lindsay your thoughts, well, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.800 thank goodness they drafted Leonard. Yes, that's my initial thought. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.640 And my second thought is when did they know that 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.440 this happened? It is weird to find out the team's 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.520 obviously learn at a different time, and then we do 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.040 often about about how they things fall. But I can't 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.360 imagine it's been that long. Well, even if it was, 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.320 would you know? Not that not that you don't draft 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.360 Leonard Williams just four games? Yeah, I guess, or unless 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:17.040 it is valuable, right, and unless it's something we don't 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.920 know behind the scenes. Maybe Sheldon Richardson is someone they're 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.560 concerned about. Again we don't know. But then you also 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.360 got the Moe Wilkerson contract situation, so maybe we see 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.840 the Jets of having this embarrassment of riches and the 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.320 Jets are you know, think thinking two steps ahead? Uh 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.080 in this case. But I guess the silver lining, Uh, 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.400 if you're a Jets fan like myself, or even if 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.240 you're in that building, is that you have this great 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.040 new piece and Leonard Williams now instead of like having 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:43.760 a scheme up away to get him on the field. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.720 You're gonna plug him right in. You're gonna give him 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.320 a full training camp in four preseason games, and then 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.280 you're probably gonna give him four starts. Uh So it 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.400 looks like the Jets are gonna get a good look 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.400 at what they drafted. Yeah, I think it's with with 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.640 these suspensions. The report was marijuana, let's just throw that 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.680 out there. And the cb A was signed in two 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.080 thousand eleven. The mood of the country has shifted since then, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.160 and I think people are gonna start the question why 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.280 are these players getting suspended when the last three presidents 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.800 we've had, as Rhoda World's Pat Darty pointed out today, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.400 have admitted to drug use in marijuana. The country doesn't 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.520 feel the same way about this as it did four 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.800 years ago when the cb A was signed. I think 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.280 we have to start asking why are they getting suspended 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.120 four games for this kind of when you already here 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.720 that tested or not tested. Huge chunks of the current 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:36.040 NFL rosters are filled with players that are using medicinal 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.480 marijuan on some level, and it's I think you're exactly 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.080 right that they're gonna have to confront this as for 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.160 where what it means for the Jets real quick. I mean, 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.920 I think it's funny that in April were like, oh, 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.000 why would you draft this kind of defensive player? You 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.640 already have three or four these guys. Every NFL season 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.320 rips players off rosters, injuries, suspensions, you need, you just 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.160 go after the best player you can. And from another angle, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.080 we freak out about anything that's four games long. Going 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.840 into the season, the first month feels so big, but 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.280 this season is so long that four games is absolutely 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.360 by the time you get to week thirteen, fourteen, that 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.720 is a million years ago. They're gonna have all these 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:17.160 guys alright. Moving on suspension number three, the Dallas Cowboys 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.200 have lost Orlando McClain uh for four games, also a 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.880 violation on the Policy against Substance of Abuse. McClain also 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.920 uh is not taking the appeal road. He apologized, Uh, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.480 you know, I would not break the rules of the 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.280 profession in the future. I regret my er blah blah 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.760 blah blah blah. This is the same Rolando McClain who uh, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.240 you know, put his career back on the right track 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.280 after two separate retirements. He ended up having a breakout 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:49.480 year last season. Uh, after the Cowboys lost Shawn Lee, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.560 they resigned him to a one year deal and he 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.760 was facing a four game Uh fine already, and now 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.040 he has for a prior a prior issue with a 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.200 substance of abuse and now a four game suspension. So 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.200 to me, a huge red flag that McLean is back 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.280 in trouble and a good reason why he got a 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.159 one year deal even off a great season. He was 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.399 retired twice by the age. I mean, this is nothing 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.840 for him. That's just like a nap. Maybe he thought, wait, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.440 I'm not getting paid for the first four games. I 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.600 ain't gonna go to work either. You think you're a 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:27.560 man of that little integrity you believe Lana mcclaimed to be. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.080 I'm not saying that it's one of the many theories 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:35.760 that are possible. It's a big day of theories. Lindsay 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.159 your thoughts. I mean, it's hard to be totally surprised 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.520 because of his history, and you have to figure that 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:47.440 that Dallas is prepared for something like this in this 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.240 case because because of the lack of reliability. I suppose 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.800 in the past he's such a good player. But you've 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.280 got to be able to back him up. He missed 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.399 a few games last year, and Anthony Hitchins, who was 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.000 a rookie at the time, played pretty well, especially in 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.240 run defense. They picked up Jasper Brinkley, who's a similar 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.240 type of guy who does well and run defense. The 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.120 question is how will they play on passing down Shawn 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.879 Lee is really good on passing downs. They might have 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.200 to play more safeties. And let me just again point 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.560 out because and I took a lot of heat because 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.320 I wrote about how I thought the Cowboys could come 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.439 back to Earth this season. Um, and you know not 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.159 that this is gonna be the reason they might not. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.600 But at the same time, it's like everything worked right 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.159 for Dallas last year, right down to Rolando McLean is 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.600 showing up out of nowhere and being a main cog 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.080 in their defense. So all of a sudden, he's gone 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.560 four games. You don't know what kind of guy's gonna 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.960 come back. Is he gonna was he one hit wonder 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.919 callback last podcast professional? Or is he gonna be you know? 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.000 You know what I mean. It's like the Cowboys, you 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.520 cannot assume they're gonna replicate what they did, Like just 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.520 block all of those Cowboys fans who complained it's June 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.240 or early July. Who cares what your analysis is? ESPNS. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.080 Tim McMahon tweeted also uh McClean. Of McClean, he said, Uh, 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.760 good thing he rehab back home in Alabama. Huh. I 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:01.760 guess he made the choice to stay home and get 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.160 right rather than work with the team. One of those 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.320 guys do not in Alabama? Yeah, don't do it. Finally, 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.359 this is number four on my suspension list, Lindsay. And 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.960 you know, I don't know if that is disrespectful to 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.560 a former making the leap candidate around the NFL. Uh. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:22.120 Dayton Jones of the Packers. Uh is suspended without pay 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.719 for one game for violating the league's policy against Substances 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.040 of abuse. Uh. This is the same Jones who battled 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.080 an ankle injury last season had just one and a 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.159 half sacks. Uh. This is entering his third year and 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.840 he thought maybe as a first round pick, this would 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.800 be the year he gets going. And be sure, sure 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.919 you could. Still it's only one game, but not a 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.879 great start. Well it. First of all, in your defense, 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.440 it makes sense that he would be last because he's 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.960 only one game. Okay, cool, there you go. So uh. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.119 And as far as how it impacts the team, obviously, 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.879 this is just one game and you figure they have 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.080 the depth to handle this. So probably not topic of 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.760 a deal for the Packer. Certainly not a good start 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.920 for Dayton Jones in a big kind of not make 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.000 it or break it, but in a show me what 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.720 you got kind of season for him. I mean it 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.479 is because they're gonna have to decide whether they want 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.760 to pick up his fifth year option after this season, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.080 and I think he's got all the talent in the world. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.760 That's not unlike some of the other guys that we 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.119