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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Can't fight this feeling anymore.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: room Field with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Lindsay Rhodes, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Smith, Ario Speedwagon not a one hit wonder?

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Speaker 1: Uh no, absolutely not. Yeah, we're talking our nineties one

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Speaker 1: hit wonders on the last show Money just delivering the

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Speaker 1: the high octave there, very impressive. Were they a one

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Speaker 1: hit wonder? Three or four big hits? Okay? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: feel like Orio Speedwagon when I was like an elementary

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Speaker 1: school on a depressing Sunday driving around with my mom

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Speaker 1: doing Errand's obviously Ario Speedwagon on the radio. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember the movie Last American Virgin came out, but you

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Speaker 1: watch it regularly? My friends and I in high school

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Speaker 1: would watch it because it had the best soundtrack of

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Speaker 1: it was like the mythical great sound inside by the soundtrack,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't available inside sixty seconds on West's first nine

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Speaker 1: reference early eighties references. Um, alright, great show today. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: it's so happy to have Lindsay here. I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: to have Lindsay here. Welcome back, Lindsay. How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really well, especially now that I'm here. I've

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Speaker 1: missed you, guys. I mean, aside from the fact that

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Speaker 1: you sit right next to me in the news room, right,

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Speaker 1: I've missed you in this environment. Very good and you

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Speaker 1: are just plowing through. The Top one is down to

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Speaker 1: the last ten now Top ten. Yeah, has been a

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Speaker 1: I have, I have very much. So Top ten's always

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Speaker 1: top ten. Top one is always fun for me. I

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Speaker 1: like the show. Yeah that is that is your baby.

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Speaker 1: You are really the face of the Top one, as

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Speaker 1: we talked about, which means with Lindsay here, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into some Top one uh more specifically, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe some issues we have at the Top one hunder

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Speaker 1: because Lindsay, we're not now that we we all kind

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll dig into it a little bit. That's no

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Speaker 1: shock to me. You're it's like you're apologizing to I

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Speaker 1: didn't make the list, apologies, just you know, laying it

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Speaker 1: out there that you know maybe potentially it is a potentially.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that. Are issues with the

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Speaker 1: top one hundred? Also, Uh, you know, as you promised,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hit that mail bag up at the old

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Speaker 1: mail bag? Did you do a mail bag with us

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Speaker 1: last time? I can't remember. I can't remember. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Ye, that's exactly what we did. Very different.

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Speaker 1: It's good. That's right. Well, maybe we'll bring that back

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Speaker 1: next week. Uh uh, what's your fancy? Of course, but

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Speaker 1: not today. We're gonna do the mail bag. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: counter or back on the phone first. Now I know, Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: you have not been around for this yet. Were you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? It's a weekly segment where Connor, our New

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Speaker 1: Jersey correspondent, gets something off his chest, and that's gonna

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be part of the show today. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Are hard hitting social topics of the day. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you just went Canadian or something on that you

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Speaker 1: have to emphasize the ore. Maybe it was that you

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Speaker 1: just sounded happier than normal, and I'm onto you ever

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Speaker 1: since West grews goatee seems a little bit happier. There's

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Speaker 1: a bounce in my step a little bit. But it's

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Speaker 1: working with the ladies. He tells me, well, that's not

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Speaker 1: exactly what I said. No, that was that was the

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Speaker 1: point of what you said. I've had more conversations with

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Speaker 1: strange women. That's I think what I said. And they

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Speaker 1: were flawed. Yes, that was my follow up question, and

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Speaker 1: he said that's a given, all right, And now we

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Speaker 1: go behind the glass. It's t D. Now let's let's

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Speaker 1: keep it real here. T D was not a part

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Speaker 1: of the show on Tuesday. No coincidence that coming after

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Speaker 1: What is going on, guys, And um, I'm appealing that suspension.

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Speaker 1: as a team, the video team. Interesting strategy to appeal

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Speaker 1: the suspension after you service. It's funny you bring up

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Speaker 1: suspensions will be getting too many today we will spension.

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Speaker 1: to shot smart black professionalism for roughly the entire summer,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised to hear anything that you say.

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Speaker 1: I would say this. It's kind of like Jamie Fox.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of Jamie Fox the actor.

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Speaker 1: great R and B songs. Same thing with you. I

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Speaker 1: love your Instagram. It's a regular Jackson Pollock the podcaster.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just saying, well, listen, I'm not coming

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Speaker 1: to have you back, Lindsay, do you feel the awkwardness

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Speaker 1: at the seems I feel like I'm a Thanksgiving All

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of a lot of Thanksgiving dinners from

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Speaker 1: Click that for Emmy Reel? What? I love that he

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Speaker 1: I heard about a third fight between you and a

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Speaker 1: I'm a son, right, Neil Zeus? Is you know a

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Speaker 1: little soft spot he hit? Anything Rocky related? I'm excited

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Speaker 1: a little Rocky. Are you familiar with the franchise? I am,

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Speaker 1: Friday night in Kevin Patrick's world. Sell, he says, this

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Speaker 1: that's not not Rocky three, started Rocky four. Now they'd

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Speaker 1: it's been very quiet this week in the news, and

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Speaker 1: we should have seen this coming because the holiday weekend,

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Speaker 1: reciprocate the finale show. A lot of eyeball is going

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Speaker 1: to be on it. Maybe it's time we're on stage two.

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Speaker 1: That's what threw me off. So I was like, what

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Speaker 1: what do you want to be on Total Acts? I

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Speaker 1: thought it was because you were looking at your phone,

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Speaker 1: but you're saying, okay, both. But okay, it's time to

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Speaker 1: have the old zeuser on TV. Wait no, I said

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Speaker 1: the whole group, even TV put him in the background.

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Speaker 1: I haven't sweeping up sweeping. How did you get to

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Speaker 1: be the sweeper? I have? You know on the Emmy

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Speaker 1: winners are allowed on TV. Oh wow, I've seen some

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Speaker 1: of the other people on TV gonna have a live

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Speaker 1: studio audience. We could play. We could sit there. That

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Speaker 1: would work. That's all we need for you. We will

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Speaker 1: sit there. And how about this, we sit there. But

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Speaker 1: if if there isn't a way to work us into it,

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Speaker 1: we will boo lustily throughout the throughout the show. However

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Speaker 1: long it is. How long is an hour? Two hours? However,

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Speaker 1: it's afraid you guys are gonna milk it. It's a

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Speaker 1: two hour finale and then an hour long reaction show.

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Speaker 1: So the studio audience is actually sitting there for three hours.

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Speaker 1: That's a bit of a milk, I gotta say. But

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Speaker 1: it's so worth it, though, isn't it absolutely three hours?

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Speaker 1: In fact? Wednesday, next Wednesday, at what time, lindsay, eight eastern,

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Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern, that's when you could see that finale

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Speaker 1: the top one ten to one the big reveal who

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Speaker 1: is the greatest player in the NFL. Now that leads

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Speaker 1: us to our next topic. Um and uh again, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, make things weird because Lindsay

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Speaker 1: is the face of the Top one hundred countdown. Uh

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Speaker 1: and you know, just saying you're making it weird, So

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Speaker 1: don't want to make it weird. There might some criticism

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Speaker 1: might be coming down the pike. That's all I should

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Speaker 1: get personal. So this is a segment I like to call, oh,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Top one hundred? Lindsay Rhodes is

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Speaker 1: the host of the Top one hundred Players of two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, but it is in no way affiliated but

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Speaker 1: the voting process of the program. So I think, now

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Speaker 1: that everything's out there and there's an official disclaimer, now

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Speaker 1: we're safe, will not be hurt. Let me start right,

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Speaker 1: and let me start by just unveiling twenty through eleven,

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Speaker 1: which aired yesterday. Great content by Lindsay. I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's twenty da Marius Thomas of the Broncos nineteen, Patrick

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Speaker 1: Peterson eighteen, Jordy Nelson seventeen, Rivas Island Love It sixteen,

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Speaker 1: Levy on Bell fifteen, Dez Bryant, we got the big

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Speaker 1: boys now on this list? Uh fourteen, Luke Keikley, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones, twelve, Jamal Charles and eleven. Oh outside the

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Speaker 1: top ten Richard Sherman, which I'm sure did he tweet

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Speaker 1: about it? Probably in his mind, if not a tweet

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Speaker 1: does Bryant tweeted? I saw that he l O L

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Speaker 1: Y at NFL network. Right, yeah, this all seems eminently reasonable.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing offensive here at all. Why did you made

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Speaker 1: a comment when you read Darrell Rivas? I was happy. No,

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Speaker 1: I was okay with it. He's in the top twenty.

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Speaker 1: If he would have been outside the top twenty, I

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Speaker 1: would have been upset. Because Eric Davis was very upset

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Speaker 1: that he was seventeen. He thought he should be higher.

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Speaker 1: He said that he could make an argument for Darrell

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Speaker 1: Reevius why he should be number one. Overall. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: hear it. Bring him in, d we old man, he's

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Speaker 1: we have him in handcuffs. I don't know why he

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Speaker 1: would be in handcuffs. It's weird. Elexie would have to

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Speaker 1: forcibly be on our show. Makes sense, all right. I

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Speaker 1: like how you worked that out. I out of itself.

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Speaker 1: I got in and got bes and I just standing back, Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with this. The ten, of course

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Speaker 1: does Brian at fifteen doesn't bother you. The fact that

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Speaker 1: the only thing that surprised me last night, and I

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Speaker 1: was maybe a little bit surprised that Darrell Reavis was

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Speaker 1: not in the top ten, but not very and the

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Speaker 1: fact that des Bryant ranked below Julio Jones surprised. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying I didn't. I didn't see that coming at all,

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Speaker 1: because I think when you have conversations with people about

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Speaker 1: who's the top receiver in the league for the last

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Speaker 1: few years, it's spent obviously that's Calvin. This is the

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Speaker 1: first year in a couple of years where you kind

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Speaker 1: of have more of a conversation and the names that

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Speaker 1: get thrown out there in that conversation are Calvin Antonio

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Speaker 1: and plays for the Cowboys. I mean he really though, yeah, really,

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Speaker 1: look at what sixteen touchdowns last year for? Does everyone

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Speaker 1: knows that you're the guy getting the ball? Look at

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones yards that everybody knows he's getting the ball? Well,

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Speaker 1: and it's there. They're separated by two sobs. Not good anymore?

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Speaker 1: I don't think um. I don't think des is reached

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Speaker 1: the ceiling yet either. He fades from their game plan occasionally,

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Speaker 1: which is very strange, and you don't see that from

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Speaker 1: the only run like six or seven routes. If you

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Speaker 1: if you are starting a team from scratch for next year,

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Speaker 1: only which wide receiver do you want to start with?

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Speaker 1: Between the two of him, I would go Julio Jones.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't problem with him. About Odell Beckham.

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Speaker 1: You would start your team with Julio. Are we talking

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Speaker 1: these two? Are we talking to anyone? I would start

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. I think that's an easy decision. But Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham over just for one year. I'm not saying like

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Speaker 1: you're signing him for the life of his for right now,

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Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson or O'Dell Beckham one or the other. I'd

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Speaker 1: stick with Julio Jones. I'd stick with Dez. But back

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Speaker 1: to the question of Julio Dees just one of those

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Speaker 1: ju Obviously, if he'd take Julio over anyone better in

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Speaker 1: the red zone, Julio is better all over the rest

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Speaker 1: of the field. I'll always be nervous about Julio Jones's

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Speaker 1: foot too, because you don't know about Dez Bryan backs

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Speaker 1: extracurricular activities. Fair all, fair points, and listen, that is

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Speaker 1: the type of stuff that the top one hunder brings debate,

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Speaker 1: healthy debate. So let's now go Now this is what

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get to it. Now we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: around the Horn twice, which although it is the name

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Speaker 1: of an ESPN program, not affiliated and the intellectual property

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Speaker 1: is not exclusive, so we can't use in the title.

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Speaker 1: So anyone who's ever played Little League baseball through the

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Speaker 1: ball around the horn, exactly the old around the horn

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Speaker 1: double play five for three. Anyone who ever sailed around

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Speaker 1: Africa went around the horn, did that too? An effective

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Speaker 1: call back to a dining sport. I was waiting for

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Speaker 1: Mark to take an unfair shot. All right, Mark, we'll

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Speaker 1: start with you. We're gonna now each of us pick

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Speaker 1: two names on the list. Now, lindsay, I'm gonna bring

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Speaker 1: up the spreadsheet that has the entire list. So do

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Speaker 1: not look. Listen, don't look. We have total access to

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Speaker 1: the spreadsheet. You're not giving her the two How much

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Speaker 1: wrong with this? By the way, And I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: on you. I don't say anything alright, now we're gonna

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Speaker 1: look only from one to eleven. Okay, and uh we'll

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Speaker 1: start with you. Mark, name one of the players that

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Speaker 1: have been revealed so far where you looked at He

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Speaker 1: said that guy is either way too high, way too low,

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Speaker 1: or shouldn't be on the list at all. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: easy for me because this is what gets me upset

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Speaker 1: about the top one to start with this Where the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks place Matt Ryan. It's seventies seven and Mark's not kidding,

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Speaker 1: he really does get up. My problem is I just

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Speaker 1: view this is valuable player. How much value does he

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Speaker 1: bring to his team? Matt Ryan is more valuable, valuable

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Speaker 1: than send Derrick Marks. I can't believe he's below Charles

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Speaker 1: Woodson and Julius Thomas. You start a team with the

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Speaker 1: guy like Matt Ryan, and I think that some of

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks they just had to find a place to

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Speaker 1: put them. And there's what kind of season did the

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Speaker 1: entire team have last year at quarterback? Takes a hit

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Speaker 1: on that big time with wins. And I look at

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and I say he should be a lot

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Speaker 1: hire on this list because of franchise. Quarterback is eminently

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Speaker 1: more valuable than some of the shmows that are above them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is kind of a harsh

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you just threw Charles Woodson into

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Speaker 1: the category of schmow. Well, no, I think that he.

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Speaker 1: I respect Charles Watson and I know he's been attached

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Speaker 1: to the show before, so I respect the guy, but

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Speaker 1: he is I would not say, by the way, well, no,

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Speaker 1: it's just I think I look at it a little

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Speaker 1: differently than what it may actually be, but that that's

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Speaker 1: what it is, right, Here's here's here's what I would

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Speaker 1: say to that. If so the way that they vote,

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Speaker 1: and I think i've I've said this before on the show,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself. Guys get handed

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Speaker 1: a blank list and it's one through twenty, and you say,

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Speaker 1: who are the top twenty players in the league, and

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Speaker 1: one is weighted higher than twenty um on down. So

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Speaker 1: my question is who's putting Matt Ryan in their top twenty?

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Speaker 1: Who's putting Charles wood Yeah, I mean my problem is

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Speaker 1: not so much that maybe people don't see Matt Ryan

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Speaker 1: in the top twenty, but that some of these other

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Speaker 1: guys that are shooting up ahead of him are getting votes.

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Speaker 1: Maybe your issue is the way the list is made

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Speaker 1: that would allow sin Derek Marks to be ahead of

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Well, I don't have a problem with maybe

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Speaker 1: where Matt Ryan places among other quarterbacks, but yes, when

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Speaker 1: you have sin Derrick Marks ahead of him, I just

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Speaker 1: have a hard time saying that he isn't better or

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Speaker 1: more valuable players. Wes your turn. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: defy you in any way. Can I put both of

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Speaker 1: my guys here because they're kind of related. So I've

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Speaker 1: got Odell Beckham and Adrian Peterson. I think Beckham was

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Speaker 1: thirty two and Peterson was sixty two. From the time

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham hit the starting lineup, he was the best

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Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL last year. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's even debatable. It's on film and the numbers show it.

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Speaker 1: However you want to sell it. Now. His detractors, his

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Speaker 1: detractors are really here, are crazy because they point to

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Speaker 1: the catch and they think he's only famous because of

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Speaker 1: the catch. But really the film shows everything that he's

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Speaker 1: just really that good and the catch really has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with it. I mean, he's just really he's unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: So how can you get better than unstoppable. Okay, let

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Speaker 1: me jump in. So who that is ahead of him

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Speaker 1: at his position? Him ahead of every single one of them.

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Speaker 1: This is the better already than to marry as Thomas

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Speaker 1: Jordie Nelson says Bryant. Yes, purpose of this list is

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Speaker 1: how good are you going into two? Right? Right? From

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Speaker 1: everything we've seen out Odell Beckham from the time he

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Speaker 1: hit the starting lineup, he was better than all of

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Speaker 1: those wid are. Okay, I think I can help a

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Speaker 1: little bit if there's any disconnect. Lindsay West has something

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Speaker 1: that's called the Stable of Boys. And within this stable

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Speaker 1: there are certain players that are West's boys that he

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Speaker 1: keeps in a stable and they're all to himself, that

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Speaker 1: no one else knows about it, and West visited visits it,

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Speaker 1: and that they hang out. Now wait wait, wait, let

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Speaker 1: me finish now. But it's a very real thing. It's

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Speaker 1: Wes's guys that he loves. Odell Beckham stands above all

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Speaker 1: those other Stable of Boys guys. And he even has

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Speaker 1: a penthouse in the stable that's just Odell Beckham. So

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Speaker 1: that's why West is so passionate, because it's his favorite

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Speaker 1: player in football. I'm that passionate because if you watch

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Speaker 1: these players playing, a lot of analysts to do this

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Speaker 1: for a living. If you watch Odell Beckham play and

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Speaker 1: you are and you don't walk away thinking he's one

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Speaker 1: of the best players in the NFL, your I for

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Speaker 1: football doesn't work. It just doesn't. But you just think.

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Speaker 1: I think the question is, so we've seen him do

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Speaker 1: it for however many games he played last year? Uh, okay,

638
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: there you go, thank you. I was hoping somebody was

639
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna get the exact number, so twelve games. And I

640
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: think a lot of people just want to see him

641
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: do it again. They want to see defenses adjust, they

642
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: want to see him with a legitimate wide receiver on

643
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: the other side. Umah, that's fair. And you have to

644
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Speaker 1: And what about the idea of this list coming in

645
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: at thirty two after one year? As anyone ever been

646
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: that high on this list in the six years or

647
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: whatever that we've done this after one season. That's Andrew

648
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: luck is one of the few. Okay, I think part

649
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: of what you said before, Charles is the respect factor. Right, Well,

650
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: there's well, the problem with this list is that it's

651
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be how good is this player going into

652
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: the fifteen season and This is where I bring in

653
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson as well, because last year we dealt with

654
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: the same thing with Julio Jones, who didn't make the

655
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: top one hundred because he missed eleven games. So if

656
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: you're injured the previous year, the players forget about you.

657
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: So Adrian Peterson missed fifteen games, the players put him

658
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Speaker 1: at sixty two, And I guess my point is you

659
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: could make the argument Adrian Peterson's the best running back

660
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Odell Beckan is the best wide receiver.

661
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: These guys are top five NFL players, not thirty two

662
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: and sixty two. Yeah, I would say I think Peterson

663
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: was nearer the top five last year, right humbled. Number

664
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Speaker 1: four obviously is a fair spot for him, And I

665
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: guess I don't have a problem with after missing the

666
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: entire season, maybe docking him a little bit, and it's

667
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Speaker 1: a little show me that you still are the top

668
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Speaker 1: five guy. I get why he's lower. I don't even

669
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Speaker 1: think it has anything to do with I don't think

670
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Speaker 1: anyone thinks that he's the sixty second best players in

671
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Speaker 1: the league. I think what you have here are players

672
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Speaker 1: that vote based on two thousand fourteen, so they say,

673
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Speaker 1: he didn't play in two thousand fourteen, so I can't

674
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Speaker 1: put him on my list at all. And then you

675
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: have other players that say, who's the best player in

676
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: the league. Well, clearly it's Adrian Peterson and he's near

677
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Speaker 1: the top of their list. So that's how he ends

678
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: up in the middle. Like when Peyton didn't play, he

679
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: didn't clarification when they go into the voters booth. I

680
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Speaker 1: I agree, but that's not I would like to sit

681
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Speaker 1: next to every Uh. I'd like to handle. Here is

682
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Speaker 1: the criterias. We don't have to argue about it. I'd

683
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Speaker 1: love that. Could you tell NFL dot com readers the same? All? Uh,

684
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: you know the reputation thing they gotta I know the

685
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: players they vote on this. They respect these guys. But

686
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Speaker 1: I'll name both of mine right now and then we'll

687
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Speaker 1: throw it back to you, Mark to close it. But

688
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: Adam vin Atieri, who had a very nice season at

689
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: age seven thousand, whatever it is, Uh, I love me

690
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: some event, even as a Jets fan. I respect Vinitary

691
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Speaker 1: for what he's done in his career, and he's going

692
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame or he should. But he

693
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Speaker 1: is not the best player in the NFL. And by

694
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Speaker 1: the way, Randall Cobb two spots below him, show me

695
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Speaker 1: one GM and I know that's not that would take

696
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: this is easy. Grandall Cobb just signed for ten million

697
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: dollar a year. Let me know when minitary makes ten

698
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: million dollars in a five year span or whatever. So well,

699
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Speaker 1: I almost have to hand it to the players were

700
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: showing a little bit of respect for kickers who are

701
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: part of the game. He shouldn't be here. Come on, enough, Adam,

702
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: you've had You've had a nice life. And the other

703
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: one I have an issue with. I want you to

704
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: at least stats all right you, I'm sure you could

705
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: guess who this is. But here we go, uh sixty

706
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: seven completion percentage and fifty two yards, thirty two touchdowns,

707
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: nine interceptions, a hundred and three point three passer rating.

708
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: That's Ben Roethlisberger. And this guy is incredible, and he's

709
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: been incredible for many year is and he's actually getting

710
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: better now that he's around a great offense. So his

711
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: placement I believe he is in well that is you know,

712
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: that's great shakes, that's a nice spot to be. I

713
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: think Ben Roethlisberger has earned the right to be thought

714
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Speaker 1: of as maybe a top ten player or at the

715
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Speaker 1: very least to be in the group that was revealed

716
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, which isn't that next tier up to eleven,

717
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: which are some real heavy hitters. Ben Roethlisberger is a

718
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer uh and a guy in his prime

719
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: right now that's just gonna break every record the Steelers

720
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: have ever had or he already has. Probably he should

721
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Speaker 1: be higher on this list. One note on Ben, because

722
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: this was where I wanted to go initially before Dan

723
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: pick Ben, was that as a someone that's watched Big

724
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Speaker 1: Ben torch the Cleveland Browns four thousand times, we've had

725
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden and Joe Thomas and our team during many

726
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: of those losses, two great players and foundational players. But

727
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: you cannot tell me that if you switched in a

728
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: roster switch you gave the Steelers Joe Hayden and you

729
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: gave the brown and spend Roethlisberger for the next four years,

730
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: that the Browns are on a much better team. Raight,

731
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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas and Joe Hayden for Big absolutely, because it

732
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: comes down for me with this is positional value too,

733
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: and big Big Ben belongs twenty spots hired, have no

734
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: problem with it. Uh, And I'm looking at lindsay the

735
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: twenty eleven revealed did we have any qbs on that?

736
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Speaker 1: I believe we don't. We didn't. So do you know

737
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Speaker 1: how many of your laft how many quarterboks? All right,

738
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Speaker 1: that's good, and I guess we can. Uh, you know,

739
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Speaker 1: take a guess what they are. But I would say

740
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Speaker 1: any of the four that have clearly Rogers, Brady, Peyton

741
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: and Luck Okay, So are we upset that Roethlisberger is

742
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: behind those guys? Should he be ahead of should be

743
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: way ahead of Peyton Mail? No, way ahead of Peyton Manning.

744
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: This is the way you remember that the players vote

745
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: in the player of respect for Peyton Manning. See that

746
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: You're right? Well, is that not valid though? Peyton? I

747
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: totally agree. Well, we're not voting for two thousand thirteen.

748
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: We're voting, right, But I thought we couldn't throw in

749
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: the last eight games of the year. So, but I

750
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: thought we were also saying he was hurt and he's

751
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: healthy now, so you don't know if he is. You

752
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: have no ideas, like you don't is the same guy anymore? No? No, no,

753
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: there's no injury concerns with Adrian Peterson. We don't know

754
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: if Peyton Manning can throw. We don't know that he can't.

755
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: And until I know that Peyton Manning cannot throw, I

756
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: want Peyton Manning every day. But we do know that,

757
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: we do know that he was the problem and they're

758
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: lost to the courts because he couldn't throw, and we don't.

759
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: To me, he's that's on tape. That happened. But you

760
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: have to consider the problem isn't Peyton Manning being in

761
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: the top ten because you simply can't ask NFL players

762
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: to vote differently at this point, after after what he's

763
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: been in the league. The problem is Big Ben being

764
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: disrespected the way he was. Something's wrong in the perception there.

765
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: I do wonder Russell Wilson is ahead of him, and

766
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I I probably wouldn't have done that myself and Russell Wilson.

767
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: By the way I wrote our reaction piece last week,

768
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: it's just the way sports work. If the hand it

769
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: off to Marshawn Lynch or Malcolm Butler doesn't exist and

770
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: they win the second Super Bowl, I think Russell Wilson's

771
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: the top ten player on this list, but it's just

772
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: one player can do that, it points that it's that big. See.

773
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: I think I think it's interesting because you're looking at

774
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: this list more from like a this guy is twenty

775
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: seven and there's no way, or well, specifically Ben Roethlisberger

776
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: twenty six and there's no way there's twenty five players

777
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: that you'd rather take prior to drafting Ben Roethlisberger for

778
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: your team. I tend to look at it more as

779
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: like positional rankings, because I think it makes sense that

780
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: you're only going to if you're listing twenty names, you're

781
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: only going to come up with a handful of quarterbacks,

782
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go, Okay, who else is really good?

783
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Who's the best cornerback? I'm gonna vote for that guy,

784
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: who's the best safety, that guy who's the best defensive tackle.

785
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna throw other positions on there so that you

786
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: fill out your list, and so I I never get

787
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: really hung up on the fact that he's lower on

788
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: the list, although I think that's a totally valid way

789
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: of looking at it. Obviously it's the top one, not

790
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: the top six. Uh, you know, corners in the top

791
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: twelve running backs or I think you're you're absolutely right

792
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: now and I know I realized I'm kind of just

793
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, spitting in the wind on this. But it's

794
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: it's like I I would like the top ten or

795
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: fifteen just to be quarterbacks, but that's just not what

796
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: the exercises. And I get that. We talked about, you know,

797
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: coming up with natural nicknames. We struggled with with my

798
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: nickname with Lindsay, but naturally just dropped the cess at

799
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: mark And that's that's what it's about. That's natural, that's pure.

800
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: But that's that's like half of his name. That's not

801
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: even like that's not a witty nickname. But I just

802
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: think it speaks to the growing bond of the four

803
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: people in this room right now. Either way, I get

804
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: ripped on Twitter for not having come through on the

805
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: old zuser. People are very angry. They're probably about three

806
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: people that are. But uh yeah, listen, Lindsey did the

807
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: best she could. I mean, she failed, but you know

808
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: she tried. All right, let's move on. That's it. That's

809
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: the Top One again. Lindsay hosting the Top One reaction

810
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: show immediately following the two hour and a little a

811
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: little bloated, but two hour Tuesday Night at ten p m. Eastern.

812
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: We have a one hour review preview show. So if

813
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: you need to get caught up on what you have

814
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: missed so far, if you have, god forbid missed any

815
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: of the shows, you've got to be a completest here exactly, Dan,

816
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, very smoothly going right past my second gripe

817
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: with the list I think I've had. I've had enough gripes.

818
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: I've had enough. Alright, throw it out there. Vante Davis

819
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: fifty nine, you kid me, come on, shut down corner

820
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: and not he's the last rated cornerback. You want to

821
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: take Vante Davis over Connor Barwin? I might. I think

822
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: it might have something to do with even showed it

823
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: today on NFL Network, the Hard Knocks episode where he

824
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: cried and called his grandmother when he got traded from

825
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Players have not forgotten that yet. Why that

826
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: seems tender and human? Not in the NFL has no

827
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: such thing as being Anyways, that's the end of sorry

828
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: about that, Mark says, sorry, Old says all right, moving on, hey,

829
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: before we get to the mail bag. And of course

830
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Connor or who again? I tell Connor a certain time

831
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, and it just leaves the guy by

832
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: the phone in the woods in New Jersey. It's gonna

833
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: be a little later, Connor. Sorry about that, buddy, but

834
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: let's um stop down a second. And we picked our

835
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: favorite nineties one hit wonder And on Wednesday, Lindsay was

836
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: a hard planning planning a t A. I think you

837
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: were doing total access a couple of days ago. Where

838
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: was the top on Hunter Prep whatever? And I said,

839
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave this post it right here on

840
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: your desk. What's your favorite one hit wonder of the nineties?

841
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: Too busy for you to talk to me exactly? No,

842
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: no eye contact aloud with Lindsay, not in the studio,

843
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: just a hand straight up in the air. Time. Lindsay

844
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't come through on my nickname, did come through with

845
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: her one hit wonder. And here it is. Have you

846
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: ever met a girl? This is Lindsay introducing just a friend. Yes,

847
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: this puts a smile on your face. Absolutely. There are

848
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot of songs from the nineties, and I will

849
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: admit I googled one hit wonders from the nineties just

850
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: to refresh my memory's fine, and a lot of them

851
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: were like if you don't really if that song comes on.

852
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm kind of annoyed it's played too much, you know,

853
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: but this one makes me smile, and then you don't

854
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: really hear it very frequently. This was one of my finalists. Yes,

855
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: it was. In fact, I knew I knew there was

856
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: something about us um. And then there was the video

857
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: which I watched today, which was funny. It opens with

858
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: Bismarcki and his friends all piled onto a park bench.

859
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: It's the most Homerotic thing since Rocky and Apollo on

860
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: the Beach and Rocky too. I mean, these guys are

861
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: all over each other. It's it's nice to see though

862
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: they're friends. Am I let's talk about that. I don't know.

863
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: It seems fun. Listen, but you say he's just a friend,

864
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: but you would say he's just a oh baby. He

865
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: taking it to the limit. See this is authentic. Is

866
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: the story of my entire high school experience. It is

867
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: it is the lyrics really do check out? I agree

868
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: with you, Marke. Uh So anyway, there it is Lindseay's

869
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: one hit wonder uh TD do you have want to show?

870
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: Oh man? Nineties music man, That's that's where I grew up.

871
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: So I got I got, I got something. All right,

872
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: all right, you want to hear it? All right, just

873
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: do it might not have here this one, but it's

874
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: a it's a classic. Whoa this was This was my

875
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: number two during your suspension. A great video, by the way, fantastic.

876
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: This is me levin old me summertime and in London.

877
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: Spent a lot of summers doing the late nineties in London.

878
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: And this is going to the tube, going from mato

879
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: Ville to Piccadilly Circus and truck and Darrow and having

880
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: a fun time like some some nineties song. And even

881
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: I love the Bismarcki song. But it's a little like,

882
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: you know, kitchy and a little fun in a cheesy way.

883
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: This is just a legitimately great song, good song. I'm

884
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: just all in on you guys. There's a striking where'd

885
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: you go to Webster's otter? By the way, there's the

886
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: football time, wasn't he? His sister was like, yep, he

887
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: came and went very quickly. Was that the Buffalo Buffalo

888
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: stan Yeah, yeah, Buffalo stance. Yeah. I was predicting camp

889
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: below for you say. I wanted to go to something different.

890
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: I want to go to something that you know, And

891
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: I went back home a couple of like a month

892
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: ago for my sister's wedding, and for some reason this

893
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: song came back up and I was like, man, this

894
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: took me way back to the good old days, like five,

895
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Can I drop one more? Possible to drop one more? Sure?

896
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Alright, there's another nineties classic from the lunch

897
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: some of days who liked this one back here? It's good.

898
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: There you go. You can only play this during the summer,

899
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: and I feel like we almost have to be driving

900
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: a convertible. S fast movement. That video, which randomly directed

901
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: by a Tim Story who did Fantastic four, I think,

902
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: like a man random but it's it's essentially just what

903
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: Lindsay described. A lot of fast moving, a lot of pace.

904
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's good. Good pick TD. The producers always

905
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: looking to drop two or more, and Sully tried to

906
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: do the same thing to me. He picked Blue though,

907
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: which is obviously Iffel thirty nine sixty. There we go, classic. Alright,

908
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: that's good, alright, So let's hit the mailbag. Good job, everybody,

909
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good choices. We should put together some

910
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: type of Spotify playlist with our one hit wonders. Well,

911
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: if that's what they are horrifying. That's that's so let's

912
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: go through the mail bag and I hit some questions

913
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: before we get Connor on the phone. How about this

914
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: one this from Tim Cummings at Tim C zero two

915
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: one too, which written off team is most likely to

916
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: shock us all and win double digit games? So let's

917
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: go with teams and and actually here's a good way

918
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: to do this. There we on our last week's show,

919
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: we had we picked ten teams, uh that we said

920
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: had no chance of going to the super Bowl. So

921
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: let me just pull that up and the Bengals don't

922
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: count and we're not counting the Bengals. And I in

923
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: my mail bag, I pulled them out too, because they're

924
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna win ten games and then lose the first game exactly. Well,

925
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: it's been to four straight playoffs, so that's not a shocker.

926
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna do what they do in retrospect. When I

927
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: was writing in the mailbag, we probably should have pulled

928
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: them because they definitely stick out like sort thumb. But

929
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's an emotional pick the Bengals. Here here

930
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: are the ten teams ready or nine teams? I should

931
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: say that we decided we're out in terms of winning

932
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So which one of these teams could

933
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: win ten games is the question. Here we go Bears, Buccaneers, Browns, Jaguars, Raiders, Redskins, Texans, Titans,

934
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: and the Niners. Mark, I'll start with you. I'll go Texans.

935
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean they won nine last year. I like their coach.

936
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I think that they I don't like their quarterback situation

937
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: at all, but that's a soft division that you can

938
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: probably continue to inflate your win total and if things

939
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: went right, they could win ten. Well, I'll agree with

940
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: that one. I think they're actually gonna have fewer wins

941
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: this year because their schedules much harder. But out of

942
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: all of these teams, I think they have the most talent.

943
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: And I could see I've knocked Brian Hoyer quite a bit,

944
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: but I could see him at the command of a

945
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: ball control offense that wins ten games. Uh, you know

946
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: what I Mark, The Browns are eighting three last year. No,

947
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: they were right seven and nine, but they were eight

948
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: and three, were four and then their quarterback play fell apart.

949
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: This is still there's still pieces on this roster. What if,

950
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: just what if Josh McCown was good or decent. There's no,

951
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: it's not crazy that the Browns could win ten games.

952
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Browns of that list have a chance.

953
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: That division, though, is what I would say, is the

954
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: opposite of the a f C. South. That Mark's not

955
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: having your hope this year. No, I'm trying hard to

956
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: get it in you. How about how about the how

957
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: about the Portraits Awards? How about the Bucks? And Jamis

958
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: Winston in a bad division hits the ground running. They

959
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: don't have enough in a way we go. They don't

960
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: have enough depth and not enough good players, all right,

961
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: and that's they've just got so far to go. I agree, alright,

962
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: so both mine are terrible. That's fine, lindsay. I'm I

963
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: guess I like the Texans. I don't think that's a

964
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: good option. Um, I don't believe in this at all.

965
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: But um maybe the Bears just because they're the closest. Alright, Like,

966
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: if for whatever reason, Jay Cutler doesn't suck next year,

967
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: then maybe good coaching staff. I mean, good defense obviously

968
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: needs some work, but I think I feel like they're

969
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: the closest and last year that was inexplicable, Like why

970
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: were they as bad as they were? It doesn't make

971
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: any sense to me. I think the anomaly. Yeah, I

972
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: think the problem on defense is that all of their

973
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: players are suited for the four three scheme that they had,

974
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: and now they're running a three four and it's opposite

975
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: of Denver where they're bringing in at three four and

976
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: all their players actually fit the three four. So it's

977
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: I think it's more of a they're gonna need a

978
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: couple of years before they draft the right players for

979
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: their sis. This is one of the questions I really

980
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: liked that we got this one Chris Blystone at Chris Blystone.

981
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: If your team could have J. J. Watt or two

982
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: first round picks in sixteen, and again in what are

983
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: you taking, lindsay you the first round picks, So you're

984
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: talking four number one, number one? Do we know where

985
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: there's number one? Are going to be good point West?

986
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: And I know clearly you read my mail back like

987
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I do read all of your work. Um, I said

988
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 1: the same thing I need to know more of because

989
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: if they're four top ten picks and let's say a

990
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: number one, I'm still thinking about it. But at the end,

991
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: unless there's an Andrew Luck, uh you know type guy there,

992
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: I am sticking with who the player that could end

993
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: up being the greatest defensive lineman in the history of

994
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: the game. So I say no with qualification could end

995
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: up being the greatest defensive player in this Potentially, it's

996
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: that the ceilings that high. I tend to agree with you.

997
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Unless I'm guaranteed that there's picture in the top ten,

998
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: I think I'd stick with the guy who's a game changer.

999
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: I think it also depends what your team is. Are

1000
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: you You've got multiple holes all over the place, and

1001
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna just take J. J. Watt. I'm gonna look

1002
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: at this from a losing team that needs to fill

1003
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: quarterback and other things. I'll go to the picks so

1004
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: you can get Brandon Wheed and Johnny Manziel. Well, hopefully

1005
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: I will do a better job than that. Yeah, all right,

1006
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: next one and I find out it's four number thirty

1007
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: two picks and I made a terrible choice. H another

1008
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: call back to our one Hit Wonder discussion. This is

1009
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: from a Lani at a perk oh Okay, how bizarre

1010
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: OMC totally overlooked during both My mail Bag and Sully

1011
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: seriously under sold Deep Loose Something Radio. So Sully behind

1012
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: the glass there, Lindsay, that's the man with a mustache. Uh.

1013
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: On his Pandora he puts deep Blue something or Breakfast

1014
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: the Tiffany as you remember that song? Uh, that is

1015
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: this song, he tells the computer or or the hard

1016
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: drive of the Pandora, however it works, use that to

1017
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: find all other different songs Breakfast at Tiffany. Yeah, well,

1018
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: pretty much every song we've listed, it's on that playlist,

1019
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: like the Eagle Eye, Cherry Take Me Higher, like all those,

1020
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: like all the ones, um the Sunshine song you pick,

1021
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: Deal My Sunshine, Tell My Sunshine. It's all on there.

1022
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I almost went to how bizarre, but I can't think

1023
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: above some of the others. Well, can we hear some

1024
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: of how bizarre? Because if my memory, uh, it is

1025
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: not you know, wronging me. This was one of the

1026
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: worst songs ever. And it's, like Lindsay said, annoying, this

1027
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: was this was awful. This is so bad. This song

1028
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. Alright, wait a second. I like it

1029
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: had its moments, but it is genuinely playing on the radio.

1030
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: Or are you great questionings? No, I'm out, I'm out,

1031
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: You're out already you probably play I mean I've heard it.

1032
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I've it's had its moment. I'm I'm over it. Did

1033
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: you have to wait like a minute before you even

1034
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: get to the first first good drop? That time for that?

1035
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Earn it? All right? We'll do one more and then

1036
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: we'll get Connor on the phone. Is all right? Not

1037
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: good enough? Not good enough? Oh there's some judgment. I'm

1038
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: gonna start calling out names this Eric robertson that bow tie.

1039
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: What one NFL player do you take with you into

1040
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: the world of mad Max? I answered this in the mailback.

1041
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: You're not familiar with outrageous Apoca post apocalyptic movie where

1042
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: you go on mark you and I can answer this one. Yeah,

1043
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: like what it's like? I was twenty mile journey in

1044
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: one direction and then back. It's just yeah, an all out,

1045
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: uh total nealistic everyone out for their own best interest

1046
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: to get just goods or oil. You need somebody on

1047
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: your side. It's a deathmatch. Basically, I'm picking J. J. Watt.

1048
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: How is this not J J. Watt? Well, I like J. J. Watt. Um,

1049
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm having a tough time thinking of someone you need.

1050
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: You need number one and amazing someone who can drive well,

1051
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: the best driver in the entire NFL because the whole

1052
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: movie it's all vehicle based on warfield and I'm not

1053
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: sure J J. Watt is that guy. Damn Pastorini. No,

1054
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going Dan Pastorini. I had to think more about.

1055
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: The only player I've even seen drive is Peyton where

1056
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: he's like orange barrel, orange barrel rewroute. I ain't taking him. No,

1057
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: I would not be taking Peyton Manning in a mad Maxinarian.

1058
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: His head would literally fall off when there you have

1059
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: to go. J J. Watt is the best answer for

1060
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: lack of any better pick. But I don't know, guys,

1061
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getta tied of the hold. J J. Watt, Day,

1062
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: J J w There's been a little bit of overexposure

1063
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: of this office a little bit, a little bit. Well,

1064
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: hard Knocks is coming, so Henry made the same point recently.

1065
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: But still, I mean, he's great. What you can't take that? Well, no,

1066
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: for sure, but this is the all field for center

1067
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: is almost becoming a bit of a caricature now almost

1068
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like, come on, j J. Slow

1069
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: it down a little, you know, stop tackling, stop staging tackling. Guys.

1070
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: That that was a little much finally, and that's really

1071
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: have to send that sound to J. J. Watt from US.

1072
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: Finally from Stephen at Durnhoe, will you please play the

1073
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: San Diego Superchargers song and brighten up my week? I

1074
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: think we can do that right today? I was. I

1075
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: always thought I saw this. Maybe you should do the

1076
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: sad version because Antonio Gates got suspended, but maybe it's

1077
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: better to do the happy because you know what your

1078
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: final year in San Diego. So they were a monumental mistake.

1079
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: Is the team of a t o? Steven? Yes, Stephen? No?

1080
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: Were they the team? And remember him? Yes? Say that's

1081
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: how bad they were? Well Stephen from Glasgow, Scotland. So

1082
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: let's let's cheer him up if a TD and come

1083
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: up with the song on that board? Hold on, got it?

1084
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: Nice super charge of sundy Go super Charger. It's called

1085
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: a falsetto. That was for Stephen. Our host has such

1086
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: a myriad of mental issues that it plays out in

1087
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: our favor. I thought you were gonna say skills, but okay,

1088
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I did not think mental issues was coming out of

1089
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: his mouth. Next time. That was not fair, Mark, that's

1090
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna cost you the m v P. Right, Oh yeah,

1091
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: I was in the running for Yeah. Um, all right,

1092
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: there you go, Stephen. Uh, and you know Antonio Gates

1093
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: is coming back. Don't worry. All right, that's it for

1094
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: the mailbag before we go. Here we go. It's time

1095
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: to get him on the phone, you know. Uh, this

1096
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 1: is the third time we've done this segment now, and

1097
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: and it's it's an important segment because Connor or our

1098
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: New Jersey correspondent Lindsay, he's a great writer, former beat

1099
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: reporter for the Jets and Giants for the Star Ledger. Familiar,

1100
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: but at the same time, sometimes he's got to get

1101
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: stuff off his chest and if he doesn't, he just explodes.

1102
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: He's basically the Incredible Hulk in real life. Uh TD,

1103
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: you'll get that reference. Um. So that's why we bring

1104
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: him on the line for and and it's a game

1105
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: or a segment we like to call are you kidding me? Connor?

1106
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: Are you there? See on her off day hand buried

1107
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: in her face? This is why she's here. Uh, welcome

1108
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: Connor back for the third second. Now with each each

1109
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: time after the second time, we put it out in Twitter, Hey,

1110
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: should we keep doing this? Overwhelmingly? In fact, I didn't

1111
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: get a single person on my feet. I don't know

1112
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: about you guys that said get rid of that Connor Or.

1113
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: I did get one person that said the guitar squilling

1114
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: was better than connor Or, but nobody said they didn't

1115
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: like Connor Or. So Connor you're back. Yeah, So Connor

1116
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: you're back though, and this is where we just picked

1117
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: you up for the full season. So let's let's get

1118
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: going on a good note. Well, well, you know what's

1119
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: bothering you this week? I would have to say, um,

1120
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, based on just some of the research that

1121
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: I've done recently on Twitter, I think that we can

1122
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: probably can our excitement and amazement over athletes being good

1123
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: at other sports besides the one that they're currently professional with,

1124
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, like Odell Beckham throwing a softball for

1125
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: a strike was just the most amazing thing. I think

1126
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: that half of the people in the world has ever

1127
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: seen their lives and you know, you know kind of Connor,

1128
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: this is I need you to understand the beats of

1129
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: your segment, you know, try to parse it out a

1130
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: little bit so we can drop in one of these

1131
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: bad boys. Alright, go on, so uh to your saying

1132
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: that we shouldn't be getting so excited about Odell Beckham

1133
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: or any of these athletes on skates j J just

1134
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: that they're athletic, because of course they're athletic, right, Well,

1135
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: it's just like the best athlete at your high school

1136
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: was the only good at one sport, you know, like

1137
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: or like I can drive a car, Jacks, don't tell

1138
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: yourself short, Are you kidding me? Keep confident? Um? Yeah,

1139
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: but I mean, like I can drive a car in

1140
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: a truck. Isn't that amazing? Like car and a truck.

1141
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: This guy can drive multiple vehicles. But you can put

1142
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: that on Instagram. Nobody cares, you know. I've tried. Nobody cares,

1143
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, So maybe it's just me. I don't know,

1144
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just me. It's legitimate, it's a valid concern.

1145
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Your Well, this speaks to the overexposure that I was

1146
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: just referencing. Gets to a point where maybe one one

1147
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: thing like this paroph season is good and fun, isn't

1148
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: it just because it's June and July and there's nothing

1149
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: else to talk about? So you have to stretch for

1150
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham throwing a strike at a softball. So connor

1151
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: you saying that these athletes it's a little they're being

1152
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: a little braggarts. It's like enough, no more, just stick

1153
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: to your sport. We know you're gonna anything everything else.

1154
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: We don't need to hear about it. Well, their job

1155
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: is to professionally be in shape, and I think that

1156
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: comes with certain skill sets, like Odell Beckham has to

1157
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: throw a million football, so like presumably you'd be able

1158
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: to throw a softball straight right like that? There seems

1159
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: to be some cross over there, no fatties allowed, We're

1160
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: all in shape or pros Connor or how do you

1161
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: feel about snapchat? What snapcham? I mean, if it's used

1162
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: in the right way, I love it. You know what

1163
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: is the right way us? The right way is to like,

1164
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: like to wish your friend a happy birthday, but like

1165
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: in a visual way, like to just take a picture

1166
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: of your face and then draw a hat on top

1167
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: of it and then like you know, put some music on.

1168
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: Itll be a ready to be wacky your friends. After all,

1169
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: What's what does snapchat offer that Facebook or text messaging

1170
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: does not? The ability to go away, It deletes itself

1171
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: after a certain period of time. Really, it's ability to

1172
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: be shady, you know, yes, how is that no consequence?

1173
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: You're potentially. I have no idea what it is. I'm

1174
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: just I'm just asking what it what You're not going

1175
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: to be satisfied with anyone, so so inflammation, Uh, Connor,

1176
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: enough with the athletes showing off and the snapchat use

1177
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: it right your creeps right? Is that what you're saying?

1178
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: I think so? Actually, I feel like just do it.

1179
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: Just do it in your own sports and your and

1180
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: your final your final comment of course, or are you

1181
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: kidding me that? I have a nice weekend, Connor? Or

1182
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: I was waiting for the fourth of July. Everybody happy,

1183
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: nice meeting. Um I I have some constructive criticism for

1184
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: that segment ahead, Okay, I feel like it needs to

1185
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: start within or you kidding me this or like every

1186
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: single one like you need that thrown throughout Italy. Drive

1187
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: the segment home, like this is why it's called or

1188
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: you kidding me? You're saying less guitar anthems, or he

1189
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: could emphasize his point with or you kidding yeah, that's

1190
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: stuff that will more frequently and then after he says,

1191
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: after the or you kidding me, then you do the guitar.

1192
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: There you go? All right, we're work shopping it live

1193
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: on the podcast, I feel like he really needs to

1194
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: turn himself into more of a caricature. I guess from

1195
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: his angle, it was tough to get probably a word out.

1196
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: There's a outrageous guitar playing. That's a recurring you know,

1197
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: that's part of the bit. And for those that don't know,

1198
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: I have what my sound job board, but that really

1199
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: is all Dan. He actually has a guitar in this hand.

1200
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: He's just that's well. Last week we said it was

1201
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: Connor playing the guitar, but don't reveal that TV. He

1202
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: also refuses to put any enthusiasm whatsoever into the or

1203
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: you kidding that's my favorite part. That's you're like And

1204
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: finally he's like, are you kidding me? All right, that's it.

1205
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: That's it for the show, and uh, lindsay, thank you

1206
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: so much for joining us once again. It was really delightful.

1207
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Yeah, and good luck to you

1208
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: in the top ten reveal. Uh, we will not tell

1209
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 1: you what they are. You will find out. We're gonna

1210
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: talk to the bosses after this, all right, So that's it.

1211
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna win m v P. But you have to

1212
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: go forget about it again. So and so with that

1213
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: being said, he gives away an MVP every show. I

1214
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: would say Lindsay has won it before she knows. You know.

1215
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: It's the feeling we've all experienced, except Mark, but so

1216
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: happy West is an est West happy today he has

1217
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: been a good mood. A lot of you know, debating

1218
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: if it's about some new women in his life. I know,

1219
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: I think it is. What he revealed before the show

1220
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: he started watching a Game of Thrones. He's getting into it.

1221
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to admit he's getting into it. So no,

1222
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: that's not really why. I'm not really all in anyway.

1223
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: When the smoke Monster from Lost showed up, that really

1224
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then the snow zombies are whatever

1225
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: they are, and I don't really get into that. So

1226
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: far behind your m v P has already betrayed you.

1227
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: Nice job, and he really wasn't for those people from

1228
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: three years ago, it's about time they killed off. I

1229
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: added nothing to the show whatsoever. It was an absolute creeks. Alright,

1230
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: if we have to, you know, leap that out, we have. Yeah, alright,

1231
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: yeah we go, let's get out of here. This is

1232
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: Dan Hansis signing off for the Quiet Storm The Mailman Lenz.

1233
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: Did we come up with this yet. Benzy Rhodes and

1234
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: Daddy Rich behind the glass that Daddy ranch signing off

1235
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: until next week. Click that for Emmy reel. What What