WEBVTT - Episode 12 - The Biggest Counterfeit Sneaker Bust In History w/ Blake Rascoe 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.920 What's going on? Guys? This is your boy Yeasy bust. 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.400 So welcome back to another episode of Legit Check, the 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.560 best sneaker podcast in the world. Of course it's self proclaimed, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.560 not dissing anybody else, but anyway, I am here today 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.760 with my boy Blake a KA my manager a k A. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.720 My brother, my boy Homie, and sadly we didn't have 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.360 a guest today because we have no friends. But anyway, 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.640 I wanted to have Blake come on the show and 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.440 kind of speak his mind about a few things that 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.440 obviously that I am in the business of on the 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.960 counterfeit side of everything, and he did like a full 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.800 deep dive on the whole counterfeit hype and how actually, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.400 like legally it's a huge thing. I didn't know that 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.280 it was on such a large scale. I didn't know 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.720 that sneakers were like such a huge part of the 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.560 counterfeit industry. But anyway, before we jump into that, go ahead, Blake, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:49.960 introduce yourself was going on? Guys, my name is Blake 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:55.880 Rasco and I am filling in for an FBI agent today. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.960 That's what's up. Yeah, yeah, because we can't have them 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:00.960 on because we get in trouble right. But yeah, so, 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:02.920 so Blake, tell us a little bit first of all, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.880 you know, tell us a little bit about yourself. You know, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.080 even maybe a few things that I might not know 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.880 before we like really take a deep dive, because you know, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.760 maybe people would want to know, like the type of 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.120 people I work with. For sure. Thanks for having me today. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.319 Thank you, thank you, thank you for always being here. 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.479 You're always sitting right there. I am. I've always listening 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.360 to come on the show. Yes, thank you. So a 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.120 little bit about me. I'm from Virginia Beach, Virginia, the 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.200 home of the clips, Farrell, Timmerlyn, Missy. You know a 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.960 lot of a lot of musicians from there. Actually, Allen 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:35.480 Iverson's from there too, and then there's me. Yeah, so 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.080 I grew up there. You know, I was always inspired 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.800 by like the fashion industry by way of Farrell. You know, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:43.920 he was kind of an icon, always has been, right. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.960 I think other people have referenced him on the show before. Yeah, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:48.840 there was this there was this shop that opened up 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.640 in in my hometown called Commonwealth back when I was 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.520 growing up. And I think you probably know about that shop. No, okay, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.680 they have one, and they have one to night time. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.240 They won Philippines, one in d C and one of 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.600 Virginia Beach. Yeah, and froll Fro helped to start it. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.600 And it was like the first like hype store I'd 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.960 ever been to. And it was back when like Crooks 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.160 and Castle and all that stuff was like really popping. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.560 And they always had like all the all the newest 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.440 dunks and all kinds of crazy ship. So I was 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.160 kind of like my intro into the whole world. You know. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.880 They carried ice cream, they carried BBC before you can 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.600 find it anywhere, you know. But yeah, I grew up there, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.840 and then when I left Virginia, I went to Atlanta 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:31.840 and went to school at a little place called Moore House. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:33.720 And while I was in school, you know, my my 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.359 parents were like obviously pushing me to become a lawyer 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.760 or a doctor, all the all the things that that 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:44.560 parents push you to do. Right, we're supposed to this. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.440 This this is the theme, guys, if you haven't noticed. Yes, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.560 I love you, guys. And you know I was doing 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.080 that whole thing. I was studying to go to law school. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.400 I was taking the LS at I even got an 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.000 offer to work at Barclay's Capital, which is an investment bank, 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.440 pretty big investment out of London. Out of London, and 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.239 I interviewed, they flew me to New York. And between 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.520 that and like studying for the l side and possibly 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.480 going to law school, it all just felt super fucking empty. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.320 And I walked into that office in New York and 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.840 it was like, Man, this sucks, and they're gonna offer 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.680 me like probably like a hundred fifty thousand out of college, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.320 which is a lot out of college, right, and for 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.280 that summer, I think I would have gotten like dirty 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.640 k or something like that. And I decided to take 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:32.040 an unpaid internship at ASCAP, which is a performing rights organization. 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.120 That's where they like collect all the all the royalties 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.160 and the money and all the times music has been played. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.040 Because I wanted to be in the music industry. I 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.360 wanted to get into entertainment. That was my goal, you know, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:42.640 in school. But I was kind of in the back 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.200 of my head. I thought it was a dream, thought 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.120 it was something that could never happen, you know. I 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.240 didn't really know anyone that could help me do that. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.360 But randomly met this lady who worked there. She helped 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.680 me to get an internship and the rest is kind 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.680 of history. After that, like did that internship, came back 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.120 to school, told my parents I was going to law school. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.680 And then by the time I was a senior in 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.680 college and I didn't have a job, and I was like, Mom, Dad, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.080 I moving in to l A. So I packed up 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.200 my car, moved to l A. And then you know, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.200 my journey began on like surfing couches, trying to figure 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.919 it out finding jobs. I worked at this like small 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.640 little marketing agency, and then from there I grew to 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.640 work for like this agency called William Morris Endeavor, which 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.159 like basically is the hub or the home for all 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.159 of like the stars, but William Morris is the one 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.120 I worked at, And I worked in television and television department, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.520 and I transitioned from working there to working in production, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.760 worked on like the Kardashians, probably growing away the real world. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.479 The challenge helped to pitch a couple of shows to MTV. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.080 Then I worked for this guy named Mark Burnett who 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.520 started the Voice the Apprentice Shark Tank Survivor. Work for 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.680 him for a couple of years, learned that game, and 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.800 then while I was there, I always like still thinking 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.360 about the music industry and then through my connections that 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.920 I made, Like when I first got to l a uh, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.720 a friend of mine was working for this company that 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.400 was managing John Legend and she was like, what do 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:05.560 you want to do? And I was like, I really 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.440 want to be a music management or being in management. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.160 And then that was when I kind of started getting 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.640 into like the management thing, and she uh helped me 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.960 to get a job there and that became John Legends 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.640 day to day manager. Did that for a while and 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.039 then I started working with you. That's what's up. Yeah, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.640 I'm much happier now. I appreciate that. Man, All that 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.400 was definitely you know, everything that you like I been 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.919 through and everything that you've accomplished is definitely well deserved obviously, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.240 Like you know, I appreciate everything you've done for me. 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:35.840 Like you know that, you know that I say that 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.320 sometimes I'm not sure. Now you know that, you know 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.480 that I'm make it very apparent. But yeah, So make 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.800 sure you guys check out my boy Blake. Come on, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.640 bro shout out your Instagram. You have to. Oh, you 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.440 gotta drop the Instagram. Check me out at Bogan boy, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.040 at b O U g A I n b O 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.840 y boy. I always wondered, what what does that mean? 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.560 What does bogan mean? Okay, I'm glad you ys that. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.400 So the bogan via is this flower that you see 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.960 all over California. It grows in Greece. It grows in 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:12.320 Brazil flower exactly. It's few shuts, purple, sometimes white, sometimes yellow, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.800 different colors, right, But like, I've never seen it before 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.040 until I moved to l A. And I kept seeing 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.920 it everywhere. Like you're driving driving down the highway, there's 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.880 actually on the one on one there's like a there's 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.560 like a heart shaped like like wall. It creates like 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.040 a heart on some wall and the one one. I 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.760 don't know if you ever seen that anyway, So, like 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.640 I keep seeing this flower, I'm like, what the hell 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:33.200 is this? It's like, this is cool, like I've never 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.719 seen before. And I looked it up and I started 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.360 researching it. And it turns out that this flower is 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:45.159 like basically like a very resilient plant. It can grow 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.599 in many different conditions and so depending on the environment 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:52.599 it grows in, it will become a vine, a tree 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.640 or bush or whatever like whatever the environment is, it'll 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.720 it'll mold to that. And if you and if you've 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.080 ever noticed this plant. You'll see, like it could be 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.160 like a big bush in front of someone's house, or 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.160 just a vine growing upside house or whatever, you know 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.039 what I mean. So I don't know. I just started 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:08.640 thinking about that and like I'm into nature and all that, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.080 and I was like a versatile being a versatile plant, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.720 you know, I'm a versatile human. That's what's up, dude, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.040 that that's sick. I had no idea. I always wonder 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.640 how to pronounce that, like I would say, Boogan, Yeah, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:26.160 I think the Brazilian Yeah, I think, but we say 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.240 I think that's dope. That's that's actually really sick. I 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.080 I had no idea. Okay, we'll make sure you guys 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.320 go follow him. So let's take a second here and 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.560 like talk about kind of like the stuff that you 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.680 were telling me about, like in all these articles about 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.880 the whole counterfeit industry. So yeah, something that kind of 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.000 came to your attention that you told me about was 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.200 the fact that a lot of people think that people 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.640 buy fake stuff on accident, but in reality, according to 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.480 the statue you showed me that they did a survey 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.200 and it's six people buy fake stuff purse purpose. Yes, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.280 I think that it's probably a little bit more. I 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.360 would say it's closer to because, like we were saying, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.800 I feel like it's totally something that's almost a taboo 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.960 to say that you have something fake or or intentionally 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.240 bought something that was fake, or maybe they just didn't 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.240 want to get in trouble. So it's illegal. Yeah, at 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.400 the end of the day, right, I guess, I guess. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:19.920 I mean I got grilled for this. I guess it's 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.840 not illegal to own fake stuff. I guess it's just 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.040 illegal to buy it. Wait, no, is it illegal to 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.320 buy it? Is illegal to sell it. I think it's 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.240 illegal to buy and sell it, but if you have it, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.720 it's not illegal, which I didn't know. And I got 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.920 grilled one time for it, and I'm like, okay, well, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.079 I'm sorry. But it's interesting because way back when the 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.679 whole incident with like the first Turtle dove that I 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.360 got those fake eBay said we will give you a 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:46.559 refund and you must destroy the product. They didn't say 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.040 throw it away, destroy, they said destroy, And I was like, 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.280 I was like, what the funk? How do they verify 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.520 that the destroy? Well, I mean they don't. But the 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.120 thing is, I just found that crazy because it's like 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.520 do I burn it? Do I like feed it to 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.920 a dog or something and have them destroy it? Like this, 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.120 destroy is such a strong word, but I guess it's 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.360 not illegal to own fake products. Recently, I read online 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.079 about like this whole like bust that just happened. It 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.040 was like four millions something close to half a billion 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.800 dollars or something like that. It was like four and 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:21.160 fifty seven million dollars at l a X insane, and 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.320 that was mostly sneakers. That's crazy that that actually blows 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.920 my mind because I thought it would be fake Louis 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.640 Vuitton mostly or like fake bags and watches, because I 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.800 thought that that's what people bought it fake. Is this 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.280 the same instance? About how like the cops caught it 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.200 because they thought that the Virgil off White Jordan ones, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.240 Like we're like flamesy because of like this swoosh. Is 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.160 this the same instance or is this a different one? 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.160 This is the same one because that that was the 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.679 picture on the on the article right was like the 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.520 Virgin Yeah, this is this is the one. Because this 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.520 happened like like a couple of weeks ago. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.600 this was Okay, there's another one. We're talking that we're 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.120 gonna talk about. It happened in New York, but this 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.840 one first. Yes. Yeah, So in the police report, they 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:02.000 were saying that since the Nike sign, because you know, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.679 on the off foay Jordian ones, how the Nike signs 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.359 like barely stitched on, it's supposed to look like deconstructed. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.320 They said that that was the reason why they thought 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.280 it was faced. So someone so someone there that was 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:15.679 examining was like, wait, these aren't real. But even even 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.280 though the funny thing is the real ones have that 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.800 same design, Oh, so it was it was deconstructed, and 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.319 because it was, they were like, oh, these must be 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.320 fake exactly. Okay, So that's actually really ironic because they 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.920 actually didn't know what they were talking. They did not 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.599 know because because I mean, like, dude, if there was 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.280 a shipment of alfoay jordan ones from like Japan to 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.360 a reseller in New York that was like real, they 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.480 probably or l A X I guess they would have 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.000 thought that they were fake too. But they could have 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.360 been real because of the swoosh, because you know what 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.480 I'm talking about, like it's like a little blue stitch. Yeah, 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.400 and it can like come off like you can look 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.280 like you can pull it off basically if you just 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.000 take a scissors like the thread, they come off exactly. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.600 So I had no idea. I knew fake sneakers were 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.520 like a big market, but I didn't know that it 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.000 was such a big part of the fake market, you 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.360 know what I mean? Well, right here I'm seeing the 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.199 U S. Customs and Border Protection reported the seizure of 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.320 five thousand, three hundred counterfeit goods at L a X yesterday, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.480 So I guess whenever this was, which would have totaled 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.600 up to three point four million U S dollars at 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:22.400 their genuine retail value combined. Wow, that's crazy, that's so much. Well, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.319 I I guess that's how much it would have cost 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.880 it if they sold them as authentic. Right, that's insane 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:29.599 because you know a lot of these people buy this 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.840 fake ship and then like they sell it to people unknowing, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.959 which is really bad. And that what was it was 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.559 twelve hundred and forty two pairs of Gucci belts and 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.959 then they had six hundred and seventy eight pairs of 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.599 shoes what do we say, sneakers? Right? Yeah, whatever, the 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.600 Nike shoes. So sneakers. Yeah, and counterfeit Louisvuitton handbags. See, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.120 I thought that that would have been the bulk of it, 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.280 the lous Bitton handbags. That's funny how it's twelve hundred 0:11:55.360 --> 0:12:03.640 counterfeit Gucci belts, counterfeits, Samsung adapters like what, two hundred 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:10.440 and thirty air Mays handbags, g Shock watches, Farragama belts, 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:15.319 Bendy shorts. What that's so random? Random? And then in 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.480 two thousand eighteen, the CBPS sees hundred and ten ships 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.360 of counterfeits as submitted to be worth about one point 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:29.120 four billion US dollars. That was in two thousand eighteen. Dog, 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.400 that's wild, that's what they found. Man, can you imagine 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.120 another like freight, like a boat, it's just full of 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.520 fake Louis. Yeah, it happens. The soldier boys probably like 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:44.720 the captain of that about honestly, he was. They caught 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.200 him in that's why he's in jail now. I haven't 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.079 seen him posting in six months. You know what's going on. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.320 Soldier boys down for the count right now. That's insane. Actually, 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.440 So this other one was when you're talking about New 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.840 York City. So there's four hundred fifty million dollar counterfeit 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.160 ring bust, one of the larger in New York City's history. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.040 So the other one at one point four billion, wasn't 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.839 two l a x so four or fifty million or 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.079 in New York City. So can you imagine, like you 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:09.680 were saying, like this is what they caught, but can 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.800 you imagine how many times they've done this and not 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.440 gotten caught? Right, So this is what I was telling 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.000 you about earlier. So this one, the one in New York, 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.199 they they caught a whiff of this whole like ring 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.800 back in two thousand twelve. Right, there was like a 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.240 shipment that came in on the crate. So like you 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.240 live near the water, so like you've probably seen like 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.160 those cranes that take those big boxes off the ship 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.760 or if you've seen the wire or anything like that. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.160 Like those crates are holding all kinds of goods. Sometimes 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:44.200 it's fish, sometimes it's cars, sometimes it's TVs, sometimes it's 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:49.080 actually Nike. And then if it's coming from a place 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.840 like China where a lot of this stuff is made 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.360 and also counterfeit, because they're counterfeiting a lot of this 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.760 stuff in the same places. And so this is like 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.839 a communication ring that's going on between the manufacturer or 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.800 one who's like in control of the manufacturing and then 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.920 someone on the ground here in the US. And they 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.480 have a whole system, like they have burner phones, they 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:11.679 have like fake email addresses, they have fact like aliases. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.400 It's almost like by work that they're doing in order 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.760 to get this stuff over it right. And back in 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.760 two thousand twelve, they found a crate full of this stuff, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.480 fake stuff, but there was no trace as to where 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.440 it came from. But they knew that there was like 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.640 something coming into this one port in New York. So 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.360 they kept watching for it, and they kept until they 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.920 found an actual like create that they could follow. And 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.640 once they did, they started watching these folks and over 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.000 time they found a whole ring of people. It was 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.480 like there was like twenty two people living here in 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.760 the US, all from China that were a part of 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:49.280 this whole ring that was smuggling hundreds of millions of 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.800 dollars worth the you know, the Gucci, Defindi, the the Versagi, 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.440 whatever you name it. Like they were just they were 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.400 just bringing that stuff in hundreds of millions of dollars 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.800 that they were making insanity that's crazy. Yes, So when 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.800 did this bus happened? I think it happened in two thousand, 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.840 so it took them six years. Mm hmm. That's crazy. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.480 Six years, six years to crack it. But you know what, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.680 the way they do it is, they they try to 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.240 stack up the odds against you. So they probably were 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.000 like watching them and seeing them do this for some times, 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.280 and they can build the case, you know, and then 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.280 they they pulled the plug on it. That's insane. Yeah, 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:31.920 that's insane. That's so much money. It's a lot of money. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.960 I mean obviously, you know, Nike and Adidas and like 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:36.960 the big brands like they make they make billions. But 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.400 I mean this is just like one bus that they caught, right, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.840 So like maybe maybe this one bus would have cost 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.000 Nike a hundred million dollars, right, But you gotta think 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.080 this is like this is one piece of you know, 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.200 probably like a hundreds or maybe thousands of different entry 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.600 ways into the US that are happening. You know, totally no. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.160 But what I was about to say was the fact 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.640 that if Nike and Adidas are making you know, billions 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.120 and billions of dollars a year, these counterfeiters might be 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.520 getting close to those numbers. I mean they're making a 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.480 lot of money, yeah, especially if they're selling just in 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.760 China alone, that's a huge market. Right. And then here 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.240 they're saying that that was worth almost half a billion. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.240 I mean the one in l A was one point 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.640 four that's crazy, right, one point four billion with a B. 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:24.880 That's crazy. That actually like blows my mind. That blows 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.520 my mind out. You didn't know that big, right, No, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:28.640 I had no idea. I didn't even know sneakers were 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.120 such a big part of it because mostly you think 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.240 it would be like like you said, like handbags. Yeah, 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.560 I thought was a handbags and watches. There was no 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.880 watches even on the list. Watches are that that's kind 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.360 of harder to fake? I think, yeah, totally. But like 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.960 the amount of people have seen wearing fake fake Crowley's 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.320 in l A is absurd. I honestly see people wearing 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.880 a fake watch over fake pair of shoes. Well, you 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.400 know what if you can't feel the weight of it 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.920 in your hand and you don't know because they're on 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.880 the face, is going to look real? Yeah when you 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.840 hold it, you know it's fake. Yeah, absolutely, I mean, yeah, 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.040 there's there's better fakes than others, for sure, But I mean, dude, 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.640 I definitely been to the club a few times that 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.960 I saw some people weren't some like Michael Core's looking 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.080 looking role X. You know, you know where they make 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:12.480 the best fake watches, Turkey? Really Yeah? Why is that? 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.080 I don't know, but I was there so random. I 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.600 was living there for summer, and every shop, every like 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.879 jewelry store had watches in there. They had some real stuff, 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.560 but then when you go in there assuming that you 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.440 want to buy the fake stuff. So literally every jewelry store, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.399 a shop that I walked past, they'd be like, we 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.119 got the fake Rolex, because we got the fake paddock. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.760 We have they had, they had, They had like hundreds 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.800 of them, and they weren't on display. They were like 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.240 kind of in the back and they bring them out. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.000 That's crazy. Yes, did you ever get one? I did? Yeah? 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.639 I did, I did. I did buy one. Do you 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:48.440 still have it? No? Someone stole it, And I was like, 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.200 that's what you get for stealing. That's crazy because it 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.320 looked like it looked real, that's crazy. It was. It 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.119 was like it was weighted everything. Wow. Yeah, so what 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.320 was it? Just like a Rolex you're just like, I'm 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:01.960 just gonna buy this kind of as a joke. Yeah, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:03.840 just like it was like it was like Hunterbucks. Yeah, 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.439 that's crazy. Yeah, and it felt pretty good, pretty good. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:12.080 I mean I I just yes, but no, I tricked 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.200 a friend who had the same watch. Really, I forget 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:16.680 the name of it. It's like it has like a 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.840 blue face and the and the dial is like orange 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.360 and it looks like a kind of like a lightning bowl. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.919 I don't know the name of this one, the mill Gouse, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:27.000 that one. Yeah, it's a green face, green face orange, yes, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.760 with the orange with the orange dial. Yeah, that's a 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.320 dope watch. Yeah. I liked it solid. That's crazy. And 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.040 then it goes into like the whole argument. A lot 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:36.959 of people make this argument. They say, why why buy 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.800 the real thing when I can get the fake one. Well, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.240 I also know a lot of people who have the 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.800 real one and then they wear the fake one out. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.359 That makes sense, so just in case it gets stolen 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.960 or they lose it or Yeah. I never really agreed 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.680 with that, because I mean, to each their own, you know, 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.639 I never judge anyone, but but you kind of do 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.159 low key no, no, no for me, for me, it's 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.359 it's different if like, let's I mean you went to 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.359 the club when you were wearing the fake watch and 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.080 you were telling some girl, yeah, you know, I spent 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.240 like ten on this, I wouldn't say a word. I'd 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.000 be all right, bro, you do you? But if like 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.440