1 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the latest edition of 2 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: No Fouls Given, of course, presented by Prize Picks. 3 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: We're still in Vegas. I'm your co host Big. 4 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Wise, joined as always by Danny Green and Paul Pierce, 5 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: who's on the Magnificent Run apparently in Vegas. 6 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: He's coming. 7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: It seems like he might be able to get out 8 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: of Vegas with his shirt on. 9 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: He's up right. 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: Now, I'm up right now. 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: That's why you see that smile. He's showing all thirty 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: two of the team. It's a reasonable I got. 13 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: It. 14 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Is a reason for that man. So cool to be 15 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: back here at eight Cigar Lounge again. The hospitality here 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: at Resorts World has been top notch for all your 17 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Vegas needs. 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: You might want to come to Resorts World. Not gonna 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: hold you now. 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: That's nice over here. 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: The food, the atmosphere, this lounge. Everything is running into 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: so many people that we know. Paul just ran in 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: the Beast Mode who apparently he's been best friends with 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: for Mark. 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Now it's like we just running too all. 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Jim Gray was on this the last episode is kind 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: of crazy, but again shouts to the people at Resorts 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: World and eight cigar Lounge. Let's get right into our 29 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: first segment, which is fan questions. There's been a minute 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: since we had some fan questions. But like, I wanted 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: to pose this question to both of you guys because 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: it didn't dawn on me until I read Kevin Lewis 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: ten twenty nine question that both of you guys played 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: for Roy Williams. Yeah, oh, he had him in Carolina, Man, 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: you had him in Kansas. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: I never made that connection to the connection. 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I remembered it from a while ago, but 38 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: it didn't like. 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: You both had him in college. 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: And Kevin Lewis ten twenty nine as described Roy Williams. 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: In one word. There's no one word to describe obviously, 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: Like he's very hospitable, like the Southern hospitality. 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: He's got the twang. 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: He got the twang. He's got his own cuss words. 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: It tells people he doesn't cuss, but it don't cuss him. 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: He cussed at us. 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: Why don't you always say fripping. 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: Gosh darn like different, we're like god dang it. But 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: there was time. 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: A lot of gosh. 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: We had a we had a couple of guys on 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: our team that were language but pushed him to got 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: fucked like my ship. Like it's a nice slipout. 54 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: Ones a bit. 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: We had some guys man, you know, Tylerlson over there. Yeah, 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 4: you know, I mean that's notable. 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: But for you, it was the hospitality, Like he made 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: you feel embraced. 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: Here was a family thing. He was a I mean, 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: he ultimate competitor bro. Like even I was on the 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: call another day because we're talking about what's going on 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: with Carolina and they're talking about possibly building a new arena. 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: He just he was on the call. He spoke on 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 4: the call. So it was about ninety of us on 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: the call and we're just talking about the ins and 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: outs of what that's going to look like if there's 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: a new arena built, they're deemed one, what would happen, 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: et cetera. I don't want to get into the ins 69 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: and outs of it, but when he speaks, even when 70 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: we win or lose, but definitely lose, you get emotional, 71 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And when you're a freshman 72 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 4: or a sophomore like you like damn like it makes 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: you feel like not only bad and guilty, but like 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: like you feel his like his pain and how much 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: he wants to win, and you don't want to let 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: him down. You don't want your teammates now. So yeah, 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: when he gets in the mode, it's like you'll run 78 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: through a wall for the guy that Well, what do. 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: You remember about your time with Coach Williams. I'll say intense, 80 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: like he really pushes you. 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, and he really taught me the game 82 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 5: of basketball, because like, think about this, like when you 83 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 5: come into high school when you like one of the 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 5: top players, you. 85 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: You know, you don't, you think you know the game, 86 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: but you just really. 87 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: Just kicking people's butts doing just better than everybody. Right, 88 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 5: So when I got to Kansas, he actually taught me 89 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 5: the game of basketball, the fundamentals, you know, from the 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: basic stuff, how to fight through a screen, how to 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 5: get open stuff. Because I was just naturally gifted. So 92 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 5: he really taught me the game and I appreciate him 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: for that. He was at my Hall of Fame induction 94 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 5: that he cares about his players, and he says, and 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: he always says this, I'll be at your first game 96 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 5: and your last game, and he held that up. 97 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: He would tend the game every year that I played. 98 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 4: That we like you try to see see us play 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: every year. So he really cared about his players. Bro Like, 100 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 4: he showed that on and off off the court as 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: much as you could support. And he was checking every 102 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: year to send a Christmas card or lame boy, how 103 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: you doing? What can I do for you? How can 104 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 4: I help you? Know what? 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm still in touch with. 106 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we still talking. 107 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: He talks him in a minute. 108 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 5: But I will say this, like what made me feel 109 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 5: good about going to Cancas because of Williams. 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you both that how did you 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: end up? You and seeing how did you end up 112 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: at Kansas? You guys are both all Americans, meaning you 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: had options. People wanted you guys, how did you end 114 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: up Kansas? 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 5: So I will tell you this, so like it was 116 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 5: how he recruited me. It was like, you know what, 117 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 5: everybody was giving me the world. He came to my house, 118 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 5: was like, I can't even promise he did that. 119 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: He did that. 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: I was like, what I'm. 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: He did? Everybody give you an opportunity. I'll give you 122 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: an opportunity to earn your spies. 123 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I knew he was the one for 124 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 5: me because I remember was in the playoffs my senior 125 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: year and we was playing the mean Gas which is 126 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: in Compton. We played at Compton College. And when I 127 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: tell you, when you go to Compton College. 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: Serious, he pulls up and he ain't scared to be 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: a coach. 130 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: Williams came came to Compton College to watch a playoff 131 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 5: game and I swear he was the only white dude 132 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: in there. 133 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, that's the coach for me. 134 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 4: I love that same. It was like I didn't have a. 135 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 5: Lot of atmosphere that like, it's rowdy, there might be 136 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 5: some fights, it might really go down. Williams, he was 137 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: just in there and I looked up like he was there. 138 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: I was like, damn ye. I was like, coach, you're 139 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 5: a real one. 140 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: So that's when you were like, this is my guy. 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: That's my guy for show, Danny. What do you remember 142 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: I didn't have. I wasn't a top player like that. 143 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: I was a late, late bloomer. 144 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 4: So I came. I snuck into McDonald's got you and 145 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 4: I didn't, But. 146 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: You would have still been the top forty. 147 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually again, I started getting highly recruited going into 148 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: my senior year. It wasn't like early. 149 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: On, it wasn't like this whole job thing. 150 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: And once once they started recruiting, it was like it's 151 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 4: easy for me. But he came in the same areas 152 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: he was in New York bro and then he came 153 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: to the crib right in North bab had some dinner 154 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: and that's a food chopped up with him, and the 155 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: same thing with Pe. He's like, Yo, McDonald's, I can't 156 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: guarantee you anything. You have an opportunity to earn your 157 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: playing spot or earn your minutes, but I'm not promising 158 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 4: anybody anything. And I can say that for everybody all 159 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: down the line that he recruited, so everybody had the 160 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: same opportunity. But when it comes to the teaching thing, man, 161 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: like what he learned from Dean Smith, like just not 162 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: only teaching his basketball, but how to live and how 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: to be a young man, you know, like the keys 164 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: are a lot like the thoughts of the day. We 165 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: had defensive off principles today and then the thoughts of 166 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: the day, Like you can you can give him man 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: officially for a day, you teach him an officially for 168 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: the rest of his life. Like we had little things. 169 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 5: Like that that we had that too practice playing what's 170 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 5: the hell you have to remember the thought of the day, 171 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 5: if not you running, you know. 172 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: The defensive end, offensive philosophies, and then the thought of 173 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: the day. And it might be something like, you know, 174 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: no one cares when you know when like with some 175 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: of them are along the lines of uh, nobody, when 176 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: no one cares? Who gets the correct like everybody succeeds 177 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: when nobody else cares. 178 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: It was on the practice plan. You get the practice plan, 179 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: but then you come in the court. You got to 180 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 5: remember what the thought of the day was. 181 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: That's what. 182 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: And he rotated probably like a good thirty different thoughts 183 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: of the day. And I think that's something he carried 184 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: on from Coach Smith. But you know, doing things the 185 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: right way. He was very punctual. It wasn't tense, but 186 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: it was like all right, from three forty six to 187 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: three fifty two, we're gonna do these drills. To three 188 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 4: fifty seven to four oh seven, we're gonna do it 189 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: was like yeah, no. His practice was two t down 190 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: to the minute, and we were disciplined and you had 191 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: to be. 192 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: Out of practice before word. 193 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: What did you do? 194 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: Man on the spring ankle? And I couldn't deny my man. 195 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 5: You never denyed drill. 196 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you run a freshman like they fucking do 197 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 4: that to you. Pass out. 198 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 5: You couldn't let your man catch the ball. My man 199 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 5: catching the ball. He was practicing on my spraying ankle, 200 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 5: and I was like, my ankle has hurting me. Get 201 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: out of here. 202 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, get the. 203 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: Fuck out of my practice. Get out of here. 204 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 5: He's just you're not you don't want it. I was like, man, 205 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 5: I got it out through my jersey. I took my jersey, 206 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: I threw it in the trash, went to my door room. 207 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: I did. 208 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: I did. 209 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 5: I was like, man, he it was real dramatic. And 210 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: he called me that night like because he was like 211 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 5: he knew I was his best player. He was like, 212 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 5: I'll just challenge you in front of everybody, like I apologize. 213 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: I know. 214 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: He was going through it, wow, like you know, but 215 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: he pushed me. 216 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: That's that's what. 217 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: And I kicked up a couple guys out of practice 218 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 4: for different reasons. But he kicked the ball before and 219 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: sometimes it's hit his head like he didn't Boby night, 220 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 4: but he's kicked the ball. He got his showers and 221 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: also at the time there was times where he had 222 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: a was I don't know if it was a sciatica 223 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: or or something like that, and uh, he got he 224 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: got mad as hell and we played guys like Steph 225 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: Curry's like, recruited you guys over this what I'm saying, 226 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 4: Anthony Marrol t us the fuck up Jeergy say recruited 227 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 4: ju and he's guy has like twenty and a half. Time. 228 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: I told these guys to go fuck off. You guys 229 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: could be here. 230 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 4: He tried to. He tried to grab a garbage can 231 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: and the Carol I had the big wooden garbage try 232 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: grab that sh and throw it. It took a while 233 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 4: for that ship to come down, and I think he 234 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: sucked up his back. Another time he got so mad, 235 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: slaped and like it shit started acting. That's so funny, 236 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 4: but like he would get mad. He's very intense, bro, 237 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: He's very. 238 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: Who do you think who came the closest besides Kansas 239 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: and U and C to you going over there? 240 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: Do you remember top of your top five schools? 241 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who was who was like right there with Kansas? 242 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 5: Like for me, it was Oregon because you know, and 243 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 5: I was like mostly recruited even though I was all Americans, 244 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: like one of the top players in the country. It 245 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: was like, you know, I got heavily recruited because my 246 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 5: senior gave one of the national championship was that Ed 247 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 5: Obannon and all of Yeah, so they was heavily recruited me. 248 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: But most of the Pac ten and the West Coast teams, 249 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: so I'll say Oregon and cale Berkeley. But it was 250 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: just like I took visitor Kansas and I'm like, living 251 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 5: on the West Coast. I went to all the USC games. 252 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 5: It's not the same when I went to the Kansas game. 253 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: And I went to one and it was like, I've 254 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 5: never seen nothing like this in a field house. When 255 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: I got there, I was like, this is I need 256 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 5: to play in this building. That's amazing and that's what 257 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 5: made me want to go there. 258 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: So nobody really liked the packed ten schools back That 259 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: was a packed ten back then. 260 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't even exist anymore, unfortunately. 261 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: But like so the Cows and the Oregons were the 262 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: guys that were heavily on you, and U n LV 263 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: was not Jason Kidd that just got just got drafted 264 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: from Cal and all of that. So I can understand 265 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: why you were thinking about that, but then Kansas kind 266 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: of overwhelmed you. 267 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: It over wailed me. 268 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 5: There was my name, think about a high school kid 269 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 5: from Inglewood. 270 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: Damn, Yeah, that's amazing. 271 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: They had a mid night manager went to and it 272 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: wasn't mid night manas I went. 273 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: I went to the first game, so it was just 274 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: like like. 275 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: We want pierced. I was like, this is sick. 276 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: So then you know you're going that arena and it 277 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: was the day before you go in that arena. They 278 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: got the spotlight on your jersey, like we could see 279 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 5: your jersey hanging up here or something. It was just 280 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 5: some crazy. I was like, I'm overwhelmed. And then I've 281 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 5: never seen people camping out for the game the night 282 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: before because LA is not like that. 283 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: Like that, nobody's camping off the USC basketball. 284 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I seen all this. I was like, what 285 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 5: they doing here? They wait to get first in line 286 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: of tickets for the tomorrow game. I was like, what 287 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: it's sleeping outside for the game. Yeah, I'm like wow. 288 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: It just overwhelmed me. 289 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: From a kid from Inglewood throwing up off Crenshawn Imperial 290 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: just watching this. 291 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: I was I gotta play here. 292 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: What about you again? Said? 293 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: I was, who's coming at you before you? 294 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: And see surprisingly NC State was one of them. 295 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: Wow and Betrayal. 296 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but they were one of the first. But Pitt 297 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 4: Pitt was really because they get a lot of New 298 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: York they were bad. You had a good little run. 299 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: What's his name, Ronald Ramon Carl crowds. 300 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 4: Have black magic and then you know, they had a 301 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: nice little run during that time. 302 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: Levance Field, he was. They would love the New York. 303 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 4: Guards and then Saint John's because it was closer to 304 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: the crib. Of course they had normal I think they 305 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: had Norman Roberts at the time. He had just got there. 306 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 4: His name had just got let go Jarvis. 307 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: He had Mike Jervis. I remember, No Robert. He was 308 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: a Kansas guy. Norman Roberts, he was, he was cool. 309 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: Came in the crib and the top two that that 310 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: came in later, so Carolina Crew late once the recruise 311 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: was over in Yukon, but Yukon had signed somebody else, 312 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: the kidd of transferring, but then he signed him. He 313 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 4: took scholarship before hid and for me. 314 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: You would have been a great Yukon Husky. 315 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: Possibly, I think it worked out well. Pitt Pi would 316 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: have been like to be able to get like more 317 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 4: play earlier. Yeah, I would have got more like at 318 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: opportunity earlier got you, but. 319 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: The big East guys were We're coming at you. 320 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then so yeah, I was I had once 321 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: Carolina's recruited me. I had to take the scholarip before 322 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: like Martin like, I'm always a class is the last 323 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: class that can jump to the league. Yeah, So I 324 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: was like, how to make sure I get this for 325 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: Martell Webster or somebody gets this couch scholarship somebody, so 326 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: you can't do it took its. I was like, I'm 327 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: my coach, I'm coming. And then my first visit was 328 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: midnight Madness and I was like, sell the camping out, 329 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: so all the ship to dance and it was a 330 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: lot of fun. But I know I want to be, 331 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: you know, part of the Carolina like family. Before I've 332 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: been a fan of the of course school for a 333 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: long time. But yeah, and back then they also changed 334 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: the rule where it had just happened right after my 335 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: junior the senior they couldn't like give you gear and 336 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: like candy and put your name or your jersey up there, 337 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: like they changed all of that. Remember they used to 338 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: give you like your name and have the banner and 339 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: all and welcome Danny Green or are you coming to 340 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: your room? They got Danny Green jersey or so they 341 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: did it. My junior, I experienced it one visit and 342 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: then after that they changed. They allowed to do that 343 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: no more. 344 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: So you didn't get the he got game. 345 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: Na, I got one visit like that. I got one 346 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: visit like that at pit So I wanted to pick 347 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: gave you to like the little candies and ship food 348 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: and like a little Actually NC State So so my junior, 349 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: when I was not as recruit as the higher schools, 350 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: that's when I can like NC State will have like 351 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: little number and. 352 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: A lot of guys be like well you know such 353 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: and such as Mellow talks about Behim. 354 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: Being on him early. 355 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so he felt like this guy really 356 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: saw what I could be from early on, so he 357 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: went with Syracuse even after he became a way more 358 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: highly sought after recruits. 359 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: Like, Yo, these guys saw it in me from the beginning. 360 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: You didn't You didn't know they had early for them 361 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: was one year before prior, Like it wasn't like Reshman 362 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: sophomore year. Yeah, Like if that's the case, I would 363 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: have looked at like Oral Roberts. You know what I'm saying, 364 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: Like those are those schools Roberts ninth and tenth grade. 365 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: It was like those types of school you know what 366 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it was like the brilliant, like mid majors. 367 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: What's the other team that had a good run in 368 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: the tournament? They actually beat us. I don't know if 369 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: that George Mason like you like, it would have been 370 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 4: one of those men majors. But junior that's when like 371 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: Pitt and NC State came on. I had a good 372 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 4: camp ABCD camp, but it wasn't the top dogs yet. 373 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: Then after that my junior summer, then it was the 374 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: top dogs and then it still was never Duke anything, 375 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: but it was just Carolina and uh Yukon and like 376 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: some other ones out west. I almost took a visit 377 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: to Hawaii just to take the visit. 378 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: Just to take this team. 379 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: You get five visits, you might as well just go ahead. 380 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: Was a vacation. 381 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but nah, I was sold bro So I signed 382 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: that right before anybody else and then mar telling them 383 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: going to the league anywhay like half them CJ. Miles, 384 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 4: That was lou Will Mantelis old him Andrew bid them. 385 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: That was the last year you could make the jump, 386 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: So yeah wow. This episode is brought to you by 387 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: Prize Picks. 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This 535 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: is a cool question from X Jordans Sorry X Jordan Green, 536 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: that's your cousin. Okay, he has a great question. It's 537 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: about grassroots basketball. 538 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: AU kids that's playing in the space, yes and all 539 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: of that. How do we improve they're not playing though. 540 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: The skills of our young athletes on the grassroots level. 541 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 4: We gotta get the fundamentals. 542 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: Man. 543 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: Like what Europeans are doing right. 544 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: They're less focused on games and more focused on skill work. 545 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: They do mostly they work with the young People's not 546 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: playing forty. 547 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: I mean we I know everybody follows what we do 548 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 4: over here, but why can't we take a page at 549 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 4: other countries? I agree, like why can't we do? They're 550 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: not taking over, but they're damn there. 551 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: But they don't really think guys where they they send 552 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: the kids to a sports academy, Like they don't bother 553 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: with the oh, you have to get it, you have 554 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: to maintain the straight a's at such and such school. 555 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: It's like, nah, man, we're gonna teach you while here. 556 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: But like you're a basketball player, you're a soccer player, 557 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: do that? 558 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 4: You know. 559 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: I think that's another thing that they do that's a 560 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: little different from what we do here. 561 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: I think it's a good and bad thing because now 562 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: even kids here are doing that more. But I feel 563 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: like multi sports was it helped me and other people 564 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: like playing multi sports. Everybody's now focusing. Soon they get 565 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 4: to middle school, pick one thing and stick on that. 566 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: By the way, I'm like, I feel like other sports 567 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: can teach you skills for the sport that you like, 568 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: Like you can still play through middle school other sports, 569 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: but kids are doing that now. They're trying to get 570 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: if you have the resource, just like kids out of 571 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 4: the the hood ain't making it no more if you 572 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: don't have the resources. Now you have the training and 573 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 4: the trainers, it's gonna be harder for those kids that 574 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: make a. 575 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: Thing too like pricing out people of the sport. Like 576 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: if you just don't got the money, you just can't 577 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: make it to the league. 578 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: That that sucks. 579 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: What if you've seen with your kids in terms of 580 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: the grassroots stuff, I just. 581 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 5: You know, I used to have au team, and I'm 582 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 5: just saying with the business of it start so early 583 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 5: and it. 584 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: Gets in the way of like really the like. 585 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: Love these young has fun. 586 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, they should be having fun. It's like it's too 587 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 5: much business too early. Yeah, like let them enjoy. 588 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: The game, like for at least a little bit, right 589 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: at least, Like. 590 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: You know, it's just too much business of the game. 591 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: Some people would say that's too much at stake, right, 592 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: Like if you if you have the potential one day 593 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: sign at three hundred million dollar contract. 594 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 5: That's why I'm thinking that the kids a kid, you know, 595 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 5: like when you're like telling them to like sit out 596 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 5: and see the trainer and. 597 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 3: The one on one. 598 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 5: Basketball guy and then practice and the conditioning. 599 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: It's just like, yo, it could be a lot on 600 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: the kid early, you. 601 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: Know, because I remember as a kid, my basketball was 602 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 5: just going to the park on Saturday. 603 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: Play the organized basketball. 604 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 5: To seventh grade, it's too much serious, it's too business. 605 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 5: Like I feel like it shouldn't get business until you 606 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: get to the point where you're like, okay, it's a 607 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 5: point to where he actually can go somewhere with it, 608 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 5: but let him enjoy it first. Let him have fun, 609 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 5: be a kid. Like the thing is, And what I 610 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 5: try to do is like I try to take the 611 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 5: kids and do things with them outside of the sport 612 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: from time because it's like Saturday we have games and 613 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: then Sunday we go to the beach run and then. 614 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: It's just like like let's go to top golf, let's 615 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: go to let's go. 616 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 5: To the movies, let's go bowling. Yeah, like let's let's 617 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: be a kid. Like you're teaching kids to be professionals 618 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 5: too young. And I get it the business of it, 619 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: but like, if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. 620 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: You know. 621 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: It's funny because when. 622 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: I figured out those guys that started at like seventeen eighty, 623 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: they picked the ball like Pascal Joel didn't start playing. 624 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 4: If you're gonna be a pro, you can be a pro. 625 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: When I was younger, everybody that I knew that I 626 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: hooped with, they thought they were gonna go to duke. 627 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: But it didn't dominate their life, you know what I mean. 628 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: It's like, I love hoop. I want to get as 629 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: good as I can, but it's not like every day 630 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: I woke up, my goal was to get to. 631 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: Do eating and working out, reading. 632 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: It's like, bruh, hey, I don't know happened if. 633 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 4: I became nice. But they worked, They worked out when 634 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: they wanted to work out. They hooped. But to peace point, 635 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: everybody just hooped all day and that's what got everybody better. 636 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: Whether it's a park, au all through the different boroughs, 637 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: ship like that. Until street lights came on, it was 638 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: just having mostly having fun. And that was either and 639 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: that could have been with football, could have been baseball or 640 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: whatever sport that is the day that you wanted to play, 641 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: could have been to touch. We played all sports and 642 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: different parks. All right. 643 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: My next question is from d Q and no no 644 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: why it's a weird name, but that the question is 645 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: for both of you guys. 646 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the league moment? 647 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: I never had one, Bro, you never had it. I 648 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: didn't play early like my first I didn't play my 649 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 4: rookie year. 650 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: So you just knew like the league was. 651 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: In my second years in and out. 652 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the league moment could could not be on 653 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: the basketball. 654 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: Court practice, give me practice. It could have been something else. 655 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: Telling you're gonna get the donuts. 656 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely, so it could be welcome to it. Definitely was 657 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: the first time that I went in and didn't know 658 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: what in active meant. 659 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: Inactive, what does that mean? 660 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: You're coming to the Really, you're not playing today, You're 661 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: wearing a sport. 662 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: Code like you you came in, we got here. I 663 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: came in. 664 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking I'm being warm up, so we're gonna be 665 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: in TV and ship. I'm with the Calves, Shock there, 666 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: broad and now like they're gonna see me on at 667 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: least warm ups or something on the bench. Two thousand Yes, 668 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, two thousand and nine, second round. 669 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, just trying to skip that. I didn't play, 670 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: But yes, that's when Bron after Bro Bron made I 671 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: think that's when Bron I didn't know he was on 672 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: the Calves then, yeah, because I was in active half 673 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: the time a lot. 674 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: Blossom. 675 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: I don't know he was. 676 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: I was on the team. 677 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was on that team. 678 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Anthony Parker and traded for Antoine Jameson and J J. Hicks. 679 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: I don't know he was on that So I came 680 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: to the arena. You're in active? What then does that 681 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: mean you gotta work? 682 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 6: What is it? 683 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: Why do they do in active? What is the point 684 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: of that that you can. 685 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: Only dress cerain amount of guys like so like now 686 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: it's more people, but back then you can only us thirteen. 687 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: Maybe you're fifteen on roster. Two guys. Thirteen guys can dress. 688 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: So you just pull up and you just sit on 689 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: the end of the bench with your regular clothes. 690 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: You can work out, do whatever you want, but by 691 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: the time the game starts, you can stay in the 692 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 4: back of the locker room or you're in the bench. 693 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: You have to wear sports. 694 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know he was on that team. 695 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know he was on Most people did not know. 696 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: I didn't know Danny. I know Danny san Antonio everywhere else. 697 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: I know Danny was on that team because him and 698 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: Bron used to do the dance. 699 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: No, I didn't. Yeah, I didn't know. 700 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: You don't remember the dad the pregame dance routine, we 701 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: didn't do. 702 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: Only did it once and that was against Bulls when 703 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: Joe remember that? 704 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: Oh so that was the year Bron got MVP. 705 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: It might have been. 706 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely was. 707 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: That was Joe kim. 708 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: Right, because I remember that they introduced we played, because 709 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 5: we went to Cleveland and they gave Lebron the MVP 710 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: trophy and we sat there and watched it, right, we did, 711 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 5: And then I think we won by a dub that game. 712 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, anyway, what was your welcome to the 713 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 7: Mons dub on that night in the playoff? 714 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I think we did. I'm not sure we can 715 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 5: fact check it. I want to look at ITFS. 716 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: You're welcome to the league moment. Oh my welcome to. 717 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: The league moment. 718 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 5: My rookie rear year grand Hill gave me the business, 719 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 5: when I tell you after, I cried after the game 720 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 5: because I never got hit. So I never got what 721 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 5: was it about the game though, that you remember something? 722 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 5: And he scored on me every time down. 723 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: The stretch and key moments. 724 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 5: Damn, I couldn't stop him. I was like, damn, you 725 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 5: were shining. I was like, this is and I looked 726 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 5: at him. I looked up to my idol at the time, manipulating. 727 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: I mean I was. I was trying to play like 728 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 5: him young. So I was like, I got this man. 729 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 5: He must have crawled. He got the half cross used 730 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: to do. I could not start. He scored every point 731 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 5: down the stretch. I must have on the locker room, 732 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 5: everybody looking at me, looking at me, like, damn, we 733 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 5: can't switch. 734 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: Who won't. The rookie of the year was that Vince. 735 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: I distinctly remember you guys' rookie year because yeah, Mike 736 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: had just retired, and on inside stuff, they were pushing 737 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: you guys crazy you Jason Williams and Vince Carter. It's like, 738 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: these three young guys are incredible. And your story was 739 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: that you know, a lot of guys passed on you 740 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: in the draft and you was pissed and you were 741 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: settling scores. But like, I just what I think about 742 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: your rookie year. I'm like, yo, these guys were just 743 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: so amazing and everybody was excited about them. But when 744 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: he thinks about his rookie years, Grant Hill giving them welcome. 745 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: Welcome to the league. I was welcome to the I 746 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: never that welcome to the league. 747 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: I think we're done happy practice too. 748 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: I had some more good right practice. 749 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: All right. 750 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: That was our fans segment of the night. 751 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: Man so happy to get to hear from some of 752 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: the fans and the listeners. But we gotta get to 753 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: our favorite part of the night, which is Prize Picks 754 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: presented No. Sorry, one, two, three, now let's get back 755 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: hold sorry, okay, all right, that was our fan question 756 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: segment of the night. We love hearing from the audience 757 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: to make sure you guys reach out to us and 758 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: make sure you guys are asked asking us questions. 759 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: For both Paul and Danny. 760 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: But we're getting into our favorite part of every single show, 761 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: which is the Picks of the Night presented by Prize Picks. 762 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. The feat we'll be playing 763 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: the Celtics rivalry that goes way back. I love watching 764 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: these guys play all the time, even when it's not 765 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Paul Pierce and Chris Bosh and Lebron and Wade and 766 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: d Wade fucking up Rondo's elbow. 767 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: And broke his elbow. 768 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 4: The you know Gamember six and twenty twelve, you got 769 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 4: the memory of an elephant. Bro. 770 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy. 771 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: It was man, y'all lost it five games that year. 772 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: It was crazy, And in twenty twelve you lost in seven. 773 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: The way he said, I just. 774 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: I just love that rivalry. You guys made it like that. 775 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: That made basketball feel like there's more to it than 776 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: just the game. It's like this, you guys for real. 777 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: And you know what, I love to Paul like you 778 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: guys just didn't give it up to the heat. It 779 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: was just like, screw these guys right like him on 780 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: the ropes too. We was twenty twelve, we had him 781 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 2: on the ropes. 782 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: And then Game five when you hit that game winner. 783 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just knew y'all. 784 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: Was going that was gonna win that series. I already 785 00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: knew it. 786 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: So let's get into first up, Tyler Hero game time decision. 787 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 2: But let's pick a minute, make a pick anyway less 788 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: game decision less more or less than twenty one and 789 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: nine less. 790 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 4: He's hurt, I'm gonna go less as well. I'm gonna 791 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 4: go less. 792 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, I'm gonna go less. 793 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna follow you, guys. Norm Powell more or less 794 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: than twenty two and a half for more. 795 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 3: He's always hitting. Yeah, he's gonna be with him. 796 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Gonna I'm gonna go more as well. Damn I a 797 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: bio more or less than nine and a half rebounds less? 798 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 4: They playing so it is Miami versus Boston. 799 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: Less not a long rebounds against Boston. 800 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go less. I'm gonna go less. 801 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go more. I like the amount of possessions, 802 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 2: A lot of possessions, so. 803 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: A lot of opportunities for rebounds there and Kalel where 804 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: more or less. 805 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 4: Than nine and a half rebounds, I'm gonna go more 806 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: for him. I feel like he's he's close to the 807 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: basket the Bam like BAM's gonna be BAM's on a 808 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 4: permanent more. I'm going They're playing bad basketball, a little 809 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 4: more football. 810 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: A lot of rebounding opportunities in this game less. 811 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: All right, Next up again another one of our favorite segments, 812 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 1: Power Moves, presented by Morgan and Morgan. And after we 813 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: just saw the Knicks in the NBA Cup playoff like atmosphere. 814 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: We're not gonna call it a playoff atmosphere. Playoff like atmosphere. 815 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: Do you think the Knicks should do a power move 816 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: and trade. 817 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 4: I must say, I must I said, it's never a 818 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 4: bad idea, but I think for them, the only team, 819 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: they don't need to rush it right now. I feel 820 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: like they can hopefully wait till he's available to the 821 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 4: end of the season and get him then because I 822 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 4: like what they have going right now. They're in a 823 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 4: good spot, they got good offense. It would take a 824 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 4: lot of their depth and their future to get him. 825 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 4: It would change their team drastically. So I say play 826 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 4: it out this year, see what this group can do, 827 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: because I think they're good enough to make it to 828 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 4: the finals. And then if you don't win it, then 829 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 4: you could you know, jump ship, change things and then 830 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 4: adds some mother pieces while you're an offseason free agents, 831 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 4: or you get some mother trades happening to make yourself 832 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 4: a contention. Again, what do you think? 833 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 5: I think this is a no brainer for me, Like 834 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 5: anytime you can get a guy like who's an MVP candidate, 835 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 5: top five player in the league, you go for it. 836 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 5: Because this is what I want to say, Like, what's 837 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 5: the one ingredient you have to have to win a championship? 838 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 5: You have to have a top five player MVP to 839 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 5: win a championship. Think about every team that's won it 840 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 5: all who won it last year? What a year before 841 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 5: Boston saying them was the top five? Yes he was, 842 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 5: yeah before that, Steph yok. Like you have to have 843 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 5: that player. That's the one ingredient for a championship. And 844 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 5: that's why I say every year the only contenders are 845 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 5: the guys who are in the MVP conversation. And he's 846 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 5: in the MVP conversation. So if you can get that, 847 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 5: you go for it. Like nobody on the Knicks. I 848 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 5: mean you could say, yeah, Jayalen brus is the top 849 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 5: five player. No, he's not a top five he's a 850 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 5: great player though he's an All Stars putting together two 851 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 5: great production All Star. 852 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: Yes, it is. 853 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 5: But to win a championship, you have to have a 854 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 5: top five player. 855 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 2: In the league. 856 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 5: It's look at the last twenty champions Yeah, all of 857 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 5: them had a top five player. 858 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: Maybe one or two didn't. And if you can get that. 859 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 2: You go for it. 860 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 861 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: I think for me, if you if the Knicks think 862 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: their team is made better by getting honest, then they 863 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: should just do it. 864 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 2: Now like the idea that you should wait, I think 865 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: it's like you strike now that's my thing. 866 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that trading the next thing. What do 867 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: you think do you think they made better. 868 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: With getting rid of Townsend Ananoby for Nis, I'm not 869 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: sure that makes them a better team. 870 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 4: I was really I'm keeping. I gotta keep. Maybe, I 871 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 4: don't know. 872 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 2: I don't think that makes them. 873 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 3: Hard. 874 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 2: I just. 875 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 4: But you're taking away all your depth. 876 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: All of your defensive capabilities, like even that that that spur. 877 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 2: You compare me with Bronson. If you compare me with Bronson, 878 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: and if. 879 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 4: It's a straight up, I'm good. 880 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you, look around the league, right, who 881 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 5: are the top duels? 882 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 4: Right, Jamal Jamal. 883 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: Would be one of the top duels. 884 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 2: They would be. 885 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 3: But that makes them a contender? Hold on, hold on. 886 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: But what about the Phoenix Suns with all of their 887 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: star players and k D and Book and Great. 888 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 4: Duo and all of that big three that failed Phoenix 889 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 4: when they had their Big three, they failed. 890 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: They didn't have nobody who was then conversation either. Yeah, 891 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: well that's fair, that's fair. 892 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: That's fair. 893 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: Neither Book nor KDE r m v P type of players. 894 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 4: But I just think Kyrie Katy and James Harden, James 895 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 4: didn't work. 896 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 3: They didn't get a chance to play. They didn't get 897 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 3: a chance to play. 898 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 2: They could have won the championship. 899 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 4: I don't know about that. 900 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: Let's go crazy. I don't know. 901 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: I just I just to me personally, I don't think 902 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: the Knicks become this clearly better team by getting rid 903 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: of O G Towns or Towns and Bridges or some 904 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: combination with some other pieces with stuff out going. 905 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm not convinced of it. I'm not convinced of this. 906 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 3: Past to the Indiana Pacers. 907 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: The Pacers were clearly one of the best teams in 908 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: the NBA, so they bullied. They took Okay, see the 909 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: seven games. They should have won that game. So but 910 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: they got the best player, got the Achilles in the first. 911 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: So you don't think lose it to the Pacers is bad. No, 912 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: but New York didn't have a better team. 913 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 4: You have a better roster. 914 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 2: I thought they should have won the series. 915 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 4: But but they got bullied, right, I think the Paces 916 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 4: proved that they were great team. So cat cats work 917 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 4: around here. Cat and Brunston got bullied by Tyres Haliburn 918 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 4: and Pascal Guys. Is that what happened? 919 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: The Pacers were a great. 920 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 4: Team, Cat and Cat and Brunton got bully did okay. 921 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: Get bullied by them? Did clearly get they beat a 922 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 2: bunch of. 923 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: Good teams on the road and took the team that's 924 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: about to win seventy eight games seven games like shame 925 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: in Indiana. 926 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 4: I'm asking you. Did they get bullied? 927 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: Said they got? I think they lost to a better 928 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 2: team last year. I think the Pacers were a fucking 929 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 2: damn good team. So it's proven by their performance in 930 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: the finals. 931 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 4: What my questions? No, I didn't say that. 932 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 2: What are you doing right now? 933 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: Your your statements now very different When I said Minnesota 934 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 4: is a better team than the Lakers. When we had 935 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 4: that conversation, you said bron and Luca got bullied because 936 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: they lost. 937 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: They got out played, they got so they got beat 938 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: up and they got beat up by like played better. 939 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 4: So did they not get beat up and bullied by 940 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 4: the Indiana paces yet much better team? Brunton and Cat 941 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 4: individually said that he got beat up, outplayed by everybody. 942 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Notice the Pacers are like two and eighteen. 943 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 4: That's right now, So that's not a thing I'm not 944 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 4: talking I'm talking about at the time, Did they get 945 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 4: bullied and I look at the numbers. I don't think 946 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 4: that he got He did what he was supposed to do. 947 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 4: He did his job. Who's he Brunton. 948 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: I think Brunson was was close to doing what he 949 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: could do. 950 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: I think the Knicks could got to play. 951 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: I think the Knicks has constructed can be better than 952 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: they showed last year. 953 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 4: But by your standard, he got out played by Tyr's Haliburton. 954 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I have no issue with that. I think 955 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: Haliburt is a great player. 956 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 4: Like I'm not saying, what are we doing right now? 957 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: The Paces? 958 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 3: I think the Pacers got lucky. 959 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: The Paces got lucky. 960 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 5: Let me ask you, all right, so let me ask 961 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 5: you something. You've been a part of what three championships? Now, 962 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 5: you played on some really good teams, right, but to 963 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 5: win it in all your role, you guys were good, right, yeah, 964 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 5: but did you get. 965 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 2: Lucky on the road, on the road to the win 966 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 2: at all? You have to be. 967 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 4: Good that you have to have some luck on your side, 968 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 4: for sure. Sure, some years more than others, we got 969 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: some luck on us. 970 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: You have to have luck on your side. 971 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 5: Pacers all bounces, it's got a lucky shot. 972 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 4: Basketball guys is with them. 973 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: You have to be lucky too. 974 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 4: Nicks were better. 975 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 3: X were a better team and is not lucky. 976 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 4: I think that out played. 977 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 3: They didn't outplay the Knicks like that. 978 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: They played them, they beat them in six games, and 979 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: then that six game they. 980 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 5: Just like it's confidence after a certain amount after all 981 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 5: the luck the lucky shots. 982 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, so the Knicks. 983 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: Because they got unlucky against Indiana ship trade. 984 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: For you what you said. 985 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 3: They can't win without the top five players. 986 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm just bringing back all comments because you're not hypocritical. 987 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. 988 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: Creds. They got out played by the Pace. 989 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 4: No, not to they. You said. You specifically said two 990 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: people got out played on the lake. 991 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 2: Bro Brown was guarding this guy all series. The vice versa. 992 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 4: Them was show different. When your numbers are greater than 993 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 4: the other person's numbers, that means you did not get 994 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 4: out played by that person. But according to you, because 995 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 4: they lost, so he got bullied. I'm just making sure 996 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:11,959 Speaker 4: that your. 997 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 2: M was based on points per game, every number of rebounds. 998 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 2: Of your argument, he had more points per. 999 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: Game every category wise. He didn't beat him in any category. 1000 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 2: Except the series and his team game. But you beaty. 1001 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 4: Specifically, but you specifically made it when it came to them. 1002 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: You said the Knicks when you specifically made about an 1003 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 4: individual when it came to the other team. That's what 1004 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 4: I'm ever. 1005 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, which is established Jalen Brunson. 1006 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: It's not a Luka Doncic. Nobody thinks that, and nobody 1007 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 2: thinks Carl Towns is better than. 1008 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 4: I'm just asking you if you thought he got outplayed. 1009 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 4: I thought he played it fine. I thought other guys 1010 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 4: didn't show up. But I think, yeah, he got out played. 1011 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 4: He lost, he got beat up. 1012 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 6: Go ahead, Yeah, Oh, we want to get back to 1013 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 6: get We want to get Okay, the Knicks should get 1014 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 6: out to the Google. 1015 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 8: Mobuckers want to ask you about Game six twenty twelve. 1016 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 8: What was that like, bro, Because y'all just knew y'all 1017 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 8: and was going back to the finals. What was that like, Paul, Oh. 1018 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, like you know what I'm saying. 1019 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: Like Lebron. This is the thing about Lebron. 1020 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 5: Everybody wanted to know if he had the mental aptitude 1021 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 5: to really take his team over the top, right, and 1022 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 5: we pushed him to the limits. The reason he went 1023 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 5: to Miami because we pushed him to the limit for sure, 1024 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 5: and he was like, well I need more help. And 1025 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 5: so now he's in a situation again versus the big 1026 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 5: bad boss of Celtics. 1027 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 3: Three two on our home. 1028 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 5: Court, and this is the this is it right here, 1029 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 5: This is his legacies on the line, because if he 1030 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 5: loses this game, he's gonna get. 1031 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, crucified. 1032 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 5: And this is what greatest players of all time do. 1033 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 5: They step up to the occasion and he putting. He 1034 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 5: got put on. 1035 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 2: That stage to where he had to deliver. 1036 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 5: And this is what made I feel like I was 1037 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 5: a part of helping him get to the next step, 1038 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 5: like he had mentally and physically showed the girl he 1039 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 5: was that guy because this was the biggest test of 1040 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,439 Speaker 5: his life right there, you know what I'm saying, because 1041 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 5: he went to Miami. 1042 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: To do this. 1043 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: Now, were like, what's up. 1044 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 5: We swung on them, we had them on the ropes, 1045 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 5: were about to knock them out. He got up, they 1046 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 5: got off the canvas and showed what their mental tipness about, 1047 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 5: and he showed why he is who he is today. 1048 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 3: And that's the game that. 1049 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 2: Really I would say they game changed. 1050 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 3: His career, That changed his whole career for. 1051 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: Sure, Like I would say him, Ron basically didn't never 1052 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 1: have a bad playoff series again for like like. 1053 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 3: This is everybody year. 1054 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 4: I think that series changing more than. 1055 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 5: An Everybody had us after that game. Everybody had us 1056 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 5: going to the finals. It's gonna be us versus. Okay, 1057 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 5: see by the way our setup title, we was gonna 1058 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 5: beat there with see you. 1059 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: Know Bett, oh, I think you guys would have beat him. 1060 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 5: We bets and Lebron showed like, look, I'm tired of this. 1061 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 5: Little brother is tired of these ass whoopers. 1062 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1063 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 5: When little brother become a grown man, now that's that 1064 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 5: was him. He's like, I'm tired of these as whoopings. 1065 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 5: Now it's time he grew up there. 1066 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: But what do you remember specifically about that? Remember, like 1067 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: watching it live crazy because I was just like, god, damn, 1068 00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: he's hitting everything. He was hitting shots and yeah, but 1069 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: it was the shots he was making the turn on phase. 1070 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: You know, Lebron wasn't known for his jumper. 1071 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 2: He was swishing shots that I mean. 1072 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 5: Fade away like threes. I'm like, oh, like he was 1073 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 5: don't let him get to the basket. He was getting 1074 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 5: to the basketball. When we let him settle for the jumpers, 1075 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 5: he was hitting those, bro and it was in sick. 1076 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 5: It was like it was like his coming out part 1077 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 5: of his moment. 1078 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 4: That was the story in Miami though. D Wade Sam 1079 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 4: like we would go under screens, make him shoot jumpers. 1080 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 4: One game will work next time they come out and 1081 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 4: had everything. What the fuck is I was game play 1082 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 4: making jumpers, That's what the fuck is going on? 1083 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:21,919 Speaker 2: Like what's going on? 1084 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 4: The game players and making shoot jumperscause it's so good 1085 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 4: against the rim Sam jumpers, it's a long the best. 1086 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 2: Player in the league and getting to the rim gosh 1087 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 2: him downhill. 1088 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 1089 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 2: So we're like, let's let's force him to shoot him 1090 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 2: Was he making that? 1091 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 5: And then you're like, damn get up on him now 1092 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 5: now getting to the rim boom, like. 1093 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 3: Like what you're gonna do? You know? And I was like, 1094 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 3: like you know. 1095 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: Game seven was a battle too. That came down to 1096 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: the white bash. It like two threes in. 1097 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,479 Speaker 5: The corner with the threes in the corner because Boss 1098 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 5: was hurt the game before something like that, right if he. 1099 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: So Bohton played for most of the series. He hurt 1100 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: himself against Indiana. 1101 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if he don't come back. 1102 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: We beat them, Oh yeah, of course. 1103 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 5: And watching some crucial threes, like we got some battles Bro, 1104 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 5: classic sports moments actually for sure. And it's just like, 1105 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 5: you know, I'm older at the time, and I couldn't 1106 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 5: keep up Lebron the same as I could if I 1107 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 5: was younger. 1108 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: So I think it was eight when you guys went 1109 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: seven games against Cleveland, Yeah, and it was like remember 1110 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: that jump ball or some shit or whatever in that 1111 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: game I think championship year. 1112 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we hustle for it. 1113 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, but like, yeah, like Bron, I won't say this. 1114 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 5: I think I pushed him to the limits, and he 1115 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 5: pushed me to the limits. You know what I'm saying. 1116 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 5: He made me become a Hall of Famer, the top 1117 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 5: seventy five player because of our matchups. 1118 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 4: For sure. 1119 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 5: I will say that, Bro, greatness comes from greatness, still 1120 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 5: sharp and still you know what I'm saying. And you 1121 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 5: get up for the moments when I'm at you, Lebron, 1122 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 5: when I'm actual with Coke, we. 1123 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: Bring up the best of each other. 1124 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 5: And this like when you start watching, when you go 1125 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 5: back and look at them games, you're like, this is 1126 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 5: basketball at its purest form for sure, you know what 1127 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 1128 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 3: Between the great players. 1129 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're seeing like like it's like a chef 1130 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 5: that's put these ingredients together. 1131 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 2: I mean the game masterpiece. You see him have master 1132 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 2: credible game plans, just like you see a masterpieces because. 1133 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 5: Everything is designed to stop the stars, and so the 1134 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 5: stars have to create masterpieces and that and to be 1135 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 5: great in those games. And like when I go back 1136 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 5: and look at it, was like this is a masterpiece. 1137 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 5: Like you're like you're watching Chess at his finest, you 1138 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. 1139 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 3: And that's what those. 1140 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: Games classic classic stuff with Paul Pierce. 1141 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 2: Uh, let's move on to our foul and no fouls. 1142 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 4: Questions the good ones. 1143 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: Oh we can close on that. Okay, wonderful. 1144 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 5: I think I'm like thirty three and thirty four or 1145 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 5: one the game off. 1146 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1147 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 7: That's a lot of fucking you guys play seventy times crazy. 1148 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of fun. He's only one win better. 1149 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 4: That's a lot of. 1150 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 3: Something like. 1151 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 1152 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we went at it. 1153 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:23,240 Speaker 4: That's that's a lot of matchups, bro, anybody seventy seventy times? 1154 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we matched up a lot. We matched up the 1155 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 3: whole season. 1156 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we played the whole season. That's why these motherfuckers 1157 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 2: hated each other so much. 1158 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 5: Bro, But we respected each other because I see Rabron 1159 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 5: in the summer at like big fights. It would be like, oh, 1160 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. People think I don't like 1161 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 5: Bron because some of the story you just talk. 1162 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 3: I just talk shit. But like when I see him, 1163 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 3: when you see me, what's up? 1164 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: Bro? 1165 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 5: Ye? 1166 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 2: Respect? I love that man. 1167 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: After that legendary story about just one of the one 1168 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 1: of the series that defined my NBA fandom to be honest, man, 1169 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Boston and Miami, We're gonna get out of here. 1170 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: And again, if you're watching us on YouTube, please subscribe, 1171 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: hit the like button, share this thing, all of that, 1172 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: hit the notification bell. And if you're listening to this 1173 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: on your podcast app, whether it be Apple or Spotify, 1174 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: make sure you leave us a review, give us five stars. 1175 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: That really helped us out with the algorithm. 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