1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Go to America's Voice Live. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Our Real America's Voice team is going blaces, others woes. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: We need to take cover that was coming into Israeli 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: territory to. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 4: Show you what they don't want you to see. 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: It's still a disaster. What's the latest they. 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 5: Call these street releases. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 6: You've got hundreds of people being dropped off. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 5: It's getting worse. 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 4: And we're the nation's fastest growing news program. 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: For a reason. 12 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 7: Real journalize that they're all marching down to the White House. 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Sounds to me bad, like they won't be happy until 14 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Israel doesn't exist. 15 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 8: Real American News America is under chemical warfare attack at 16 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 8: no is the weapon. 17 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 7: Thank you for everything you're doing. 18 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys, very very much. 19 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: This is America's Voice Live with Steve Grouper. 20 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm seeing great. It is Friday, 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: the tenth of January. It's good to the day's stop sys. 22 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us here in Real America's Voice. 23 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: We appreciate being here again. As if fires continue to 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: blaze round California, only eight percent contained so far, believe 25 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: it or not, Many wondering if this will be the 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: tie that finally changes people to reconsider their political views. 27 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: You'd like to think so. Also, we will be discussing 28 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's sentencing and what this means for our soon 29 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: to be president. Just ten days out and then later, 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: Ohio State University seems to favorite DEI associated professors over 31 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: other professors after report came out. It shows just how 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: much money is being spent on these folks. 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: We'll look at that, but first we do start here. 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: In a historic moment, President elect Donald Trump sentenced today 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: in Manhattan's Supreme Court after being convicted on thirty four 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: fellony accounts of allegedly falsifying business records tied to a 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: hush money case back during twenty sixteen, Judjuan Roshan imposed 38 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: an unconditional discharge, sparing Trump jail time, findes for probation, 39 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: though he must submit a DNA sample and cannot own 40 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: firearms as a convicted felon. Despite the conviction, there's nothing 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: stopping Trump from taking office in ten days, the tenth 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: of the twentieth of January. That is marking an unprecedented 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: chapter in American history, and not a good one either, 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: I might add join me now outside the New York 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 2: City Courthouse, Real America's Voice correspondent, my friend David's er David, 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: great to have you here on the program. Look how 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: many nondisclosure agreements are signed in America today. Here's how 48 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: it works. You sign a contract, you take a check, 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: you say, I'm not going to talk about this. It's 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: called an NBA. That's what this case was about. There 51 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: was never a felony here. Everybody knows that the Democrats 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: are The judge knows that, David, and it's meaningless to 53 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: most people. 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 9: What do you say, Well, he said, Wow, American cities 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 9: are burning. 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: He has to deal with this, you know. 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 9: And there's real problems like inflation and bad stuff going 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 9: on around the world. 59 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 5: And this was part of the trifecta though, Steve. 60 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 9: This was the Egene Cairol case, the fraud case with 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 9: Judge Garan, and this rounded it out to make sure 62 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 9: that there was a permanent stain on Trump as the 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 9: only felon in the history of the United States to 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 9: be elected president. 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 5: Here, all this going on, and all this tax payer. 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 9: Money behind us being spent on this trial and again 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 9: in the sentencing, I just wanted to share something really 68 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 9: quick with you. In the first week of twenty twenty 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 9: five in New York City, shooting victims up three hundred 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 9: and twenty percent, shooting incidents up one hundred and thirty 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 9: three percent. That means an average of three people who 72 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 9: were shot and each incident, it looks like. 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: And rape is up thirty. 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 9: Percent in the first week of January compared the first 75 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 9: week last year. 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: And murder's up fifty percent. 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 9: This place is accessible, and we have this new congestion 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 9: pricing here in New York City, people being forced into 79 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 9: the subway where they're being slashed and stabbed and pushed 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 9: on the tracks and brutalized. And you know, Judge On, 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 9: I mean, Judge Murshan was you know, dial teering today 82 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 9: in the courtroom saying, oh, this was the hardest decision 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 9: I ever had to make, this sentencing and pretending like, 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 9: you know, he didn't want to do this, but this 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 9: was the most he can do because of those afforded 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 9: protections to protect the presidency. But they would have gone 87 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 9: all the way and thrown them in the clink if 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 9: they could. 89 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly would have. 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: And you know the prohibition against owning a Fireum, I'm 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: going to guess that Donald Trump I don't know if 92 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: he's ever own a firearm. His children do, and they're 93 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: big hunters in sportsmen. I don't know if he ever has. 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter. He's protected by the Secret Service 95 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: to one extent or another. We can question that another day. 96 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: But I think, David, the most prominent crime in the 97 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: minds of many of us, including me, that one being 98 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 2: set on fire on the New York subway train. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: And they're worried about this. 100 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: You've got people being burned alive on New York City 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: subway trains. You've got terrific crimes, horrific time being perpetuate 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: on the centiens of New York every day. And this 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: is what they're wasting their time on the money, all 104 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: these resources, all this time, and this judge he wanted 105 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: to go down in history. He will, but not in 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: a good way, David, That's what I think. 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: No, he won't. 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 9: And remember, there were four people who either lit themselves 109 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 9: on fire or who are set on fire just in 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 9: the last year in New York City, one of them 111 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 9: about one hundred feet from me here in Collect Pond 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 9: Park last year during the Trump trial, but seventy seven 113 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 9: thousand New Yorkers felony or misdemeanor assaults last year and 114 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 9: twenty twenty four in New York a twenty six year 115 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 9: murder high on the subway one hundred and forty six 116 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 9: percent increase in felony. 117 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 5: Assaults on the subway. 118 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 9: And I think that this weaponization of government, like Trump 119 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 9: said in his closing remarks today, backfired against them, and 120 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 9: he won in a landslide because of it. Because while 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 9: these trials were going on, all three of them, Trump 122 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 9: was in Harlem with the bodega owners and the Hispanics 123 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 9: and the Dominicans. He's up in the Bronx, He's with 124 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 9: the Democratic steam fitters. He's in the firehouses handing out pizza. 125 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 9: He's in Schnecksville, Scranton, Pennsylvania, Biden's backyard. He's in the 126 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 9: Blue Wall States Wisconsin during these trials, and then he 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 9: goes to Wildwood, pulls up the largest political event in 128 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 9: the history of the state of New Jersey and closes 129 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 9: within four or five points in the presidential election there. 130 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 5: So Trump was the victor here. 131 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: There's no question. 132 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: And again some people see this as a badge of honor, 133 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: and maybe it is, because maybe this is his badge 134 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: of honor for all the nonsense that he's gone through 135 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: for the last ten years. Now, it's been ten years 136 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: since he came down the escalator. David, here's a man 137 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: that's resilient, in steadfast and the greatest political comeback in 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: American history that we can give him. David Zeer greatly 139 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: appreciate it. It's cold out there, my friend, Go find 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: a place to warm up with a hot cup of coffee. 141 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: Thank you for being here, Will too, All right, thanks? 142 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: Moving on now, David does a great job for us, 143 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: as you know, and now joining me to discuss this. 144 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: As the former Deputy Assistant Attorney General of the Department 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: of Justice's Criminal Division. He's also a vice president at 146 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: the Heritage Founder John. Welcome, John, thank you for being here. Look, 147 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 2: this case was a Trump deb case from the beginning, 148 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: thirty four charges related to hush money payments. Again, I'm 149 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: going to go over this so people understand non disclosure agreements, 150 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: because to me. 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: That's what this was. 152 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: They happened thousands of times a day in this country. 153 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: What am I missing? It was a contract between two parties. 154 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: We pay you and in consideration of us paying you, 155 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: you don't discuss this it's a very similar This is 156 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: not criminal activity. 157 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: This is standard contract law, isn't it. 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 6: No, there's nothing illegal about a non disclosure agreement. Those 159 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: kinds of agreements are entered into all the time, and 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 6: involving cases like this in which rich people are sued 161 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 6: for one reason or another, they want to pay a 162 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 6: nuisance payment in order to avoid embarrassment to their families, 163 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 6: and they enter into a non disclosure agreement. The allegation 164 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 6: here was that this was false business records. There were 165 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: essentially seventeen invoices from Michael Cohen and seventeen payments of 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 6: those invoices that listed the payments for legal services, and 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 6: the allegation was is. 168 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: That these really weren't legal services. 169 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 6: They were to reimburse Michael Cohen for the hush money payments, 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: and that was designed to somehow affect the election. It 171 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 6: was an astonishingly week case. The guy you just had 172 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 6: on was talking about the fact that there are these 173 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 6: serious felonies taking place in the Yorick Alvin Bragg is 174 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 6: a very weak prosecutor in one of the so called 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 6: progressive prosecutors who take serious violent felonies and pleads them 176 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 6: down into misdemeanors here with Donald Trump, and only because 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 6: it was Donald Trump. He took a book keeping misdemeanor, 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: which is almost never prosecuted, and ramped it up into 179 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 6: a felony by claiming that these records were you know, 180 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 6: these false entries were designed to cover up a federal 181 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: campaign finance violation. And by the way, the Department, this 182 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 6: is the only prosecutorial body that has jurisdiction to prosecute 183 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 6: federal campaign finance violations, not the district attorney in Manhattan. 184 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: How many millions of dollars, John, have been spent by 185 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: the United States Congress to make similar allegations go away, 186 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: by the Congress itself, members of the House, members. 187 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: Of the Senate. 188 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: I mean, they have a slush fund that pays people 189 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: off to go away, and that's legal, and what Donald 190 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: Trump did here was not. I mean, come on, uh, 191 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: it's so it's so infuriating, it is. This is an 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: insult to the legal profession, which is pretty easy to do, 193 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: but this is an insult. 194 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: John, Yeah, I agree with that. 195 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 6: And actually one of the many errors that Judge merch On, 196 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 6: in my opinion, committed during this trial. He would not 197 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: allow a witness Donald Trump wanted to call a guy 198 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 6: named Brad Smith, who's a former federal election commissioner, said, Look, 199 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 6: this was a private matter paid for by Donald Trump's 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 6: personal funds. It was not in any way, shape or 201 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 6: form campaign related. Indeed, if he had Michael Cohen out 202 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 6: of his campaign funds, that would have been a campaign 203 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 6: finance violation. That this had nothing to do with the election. 204 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 6: It was a wealthy guy who was paying off somebody 205 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 6: in order to involve in order to avoid the public 206 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 6: disclosure of information, whether true or not, that would be 207 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 6: embarrassing to him and to his family. Whether it happened 208 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 6: to be at the same time as an election is 209 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 6: totally irrelevant. 210 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Let me ask you about recourse, because this is something 211 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: I've wondered about, and I'm not an attorney, thankfully. What 212 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: I want to know is is there recourse here? Can 213 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: he appeal all of this? Can this go away? And 214 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: if not, I know many of those stings. I'm sure 215 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: New York has a similar statute where you could expunge 216 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: this and therefore it doesn't exist again, and therefore he's 217 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: no longer convicted felon if it's expunged. 218 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be recourse here somewhere, John. 219 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 6: Well, he certainly can, and he will appeal. He can 220 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 6: appeal to the New York state system, and because they 221 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 6: can consider arguments that what Judge Murchon did violated both 222 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 6: state law and federal law. And he can also appeal 223 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 6: to the federal courts, where they will consider only whether 224 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 6: or not Judge Murchon violated a federal constitutional law. I 225 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 6: don't know whether at the end of his sentence there 226 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: was no sentence, so I suppose that he might be 227 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 6: able to try to get his rights back and seek 228 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 6: an expungement. I don't know what the New York law 229 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 6: is in that regard, and of course New York Governor 230 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 6: Kathy hack Eule could pardon him, although I do not 231 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 6: expect that to happen. So the appeal is now going 232 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 6: to go forward, and I think that there is a 233 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 6: more than likely chance that this conviction is going to 234 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 6: be overturned on appeal, because I believe Judge Murchon committed many, 235 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 6: many legal errors in terms of how this case was tried. 236 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, errors from the prosecutor, errors from the judge, errors 237 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: in procedure, errors in the law. I mean, again, as 238 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: you and I just discussed. This is pretty straightform contract 239 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: law happens every day, thousands of times in America. Here's 240 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: a contract. In consideration of that contract, here's a check. 241 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: This is just basic contract law. It's not even particularly interesting. 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,479 Speaker 2: And yet they try to turn it into the Frankenstein 243 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: case so they could smear him, tyre and feather him 244 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: in some fashion, which they may think that they have done. 245 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: But in ten days he will be the president of 246 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: the United States, with or without. 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: Their little smear job doesn't really matter. 248 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: If the American people spoke and they knew all about this, 249 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: they were not impressed. 250 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm not impressed, and you're not either. I don't think 251 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you the last word. 252 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I believe it in facted backfire. I think 253 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 6: that this was an attempt to try to take Donald 254 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 6: Trump out as being a viable candidate, and instead the 255 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 6: public saw this as he was being railroaded and very unfairly, 256 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: and I think that it inured to his advantage that 257 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 6: he ended up turning people who otherwise didn't particularly like 258 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 6: him and saying he is really being victimized here. It's 259 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 6: very unfair. His political opponents are doing this, and by god, 260 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 6: will a vote for him. 261 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: There you go. I appreciate you being here on a Friday. 262 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: It's I think it's more of. 263 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: An embarrassment to the legal system in New York and 264 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: how far it's fallen, and it is anything to Donald Trump. 265 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir for being here. Good to be with you. 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 6: All. 267 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: Right, after the break, we'll dive into the Palisades fire 268 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: and explore how this disaster could shape the future of 269 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: California's political landscape. 270 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: Will it change anything? 271 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: Well, people finally say, all right, we've seen enough time 272 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: for something new. We'll talk about it on America's Voice 273 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: Live coming up. Well, as you know, the big story 274 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: of the week in Los Angeles, these massive fire storms 275 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: consuming tens of thousands of acres, destroying more than ten 276 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: thousand buildings. Now at least ten people have died. I'm 277 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: sure that number is going to grow. I'm absolutely certain 278 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: of it. And the situation has prompted a wave of 279 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: criticism at Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen 280 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: Bass for their lack of leadership with what many call 281 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: it very preventable situation as these wildfires raid John they're 282 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: also fielding a big debate about California's politics in the future. 283 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: The state's been poorly managed for years. It's not a secret, 284 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: with environmental policies and weak infrastructure leaving it completely unprepared 285 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: for disasters like we have witnessed this week. On the 286 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: flip side, supporters of the current leadership argue that climate 287 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: change is the real culprit here and tackling it will 288 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: take effort from the whole country, not just California. 289 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Joining out to discuss this. As the author of. 290 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: The Great Reset and Climate Depot publisher Mark Morano, Mark, 291 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: nice to have you here on the program. 292 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Nice see it again. Thank you, Steve, happy to be here. 293 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: Look, going back to the beginning of time, the Indians, 294 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: the natives that lived in that part of California went 295 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: to the beach every winter to live. Why Santa Ana 296 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: wins and wildfires that would sweep to that part of 297 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: the state of California has been going on for millennia. 298 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: It's nothing new. It is not climate change. It is 299 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: winner in California. You have wildfires. That's a fact, isn't 300 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: it It is? 301 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 8: But try telling that to Bernie Sanders, the Washington Post, Axios, 302 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 8: the corporate media for the climate Zar John Podesta. They're 303 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 8: all claiming it's climate change, and same with Gavin Newsom, 304 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 8: and they're using this as an excuse like, of course 305 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 8: California is unprepared. We warn you this is bad. Here's 306 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 8: the thing before I get into the quick thing on 307 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 8: the science. If they believe in man made climate change 308 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 8: was causing this, that's double shame on them because they 309 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 8: knew what was coming. 310 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: They apparently we've you know, they've been warning it was 311 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: going to get bad. 312 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 6: They didn't do it. 313 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 8: But here's the bottom line, this is not climate change 314 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 8: and it's not me saying it. US Geological Survey top 315 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 8: scientist John Keeley LA fire is not the result of 316 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 8: climate change. And I'll do you better on your timeline. 317 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 8: The scrubland plant fires that we've seen with these Santa 318 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 8: Ano wins have been around for at least twenty million years. 319 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 8: The only thing changed is not trace amount of carbon dioxide, 320 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 8: but the actual people in the landscape and the massive development. 321 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 8: In addition, the twenty twenty one study found one hundred 322 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 8: percent of the Santa Ana fires are the result of 323 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 8: human ignition, either intentional or accidental, and they said higher 324 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 8: temperatures and precipitation levels do not appear to play a substantial. 325 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Role in the fires. 326 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 8: So the idea of oh, a drought caused desh or 327 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 8: we had too much precipitation or the temperature, the peer 328 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 8: review data doesn't show it. And the UN admits wildfires 329 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 8: on climate timescales thirty fifty one hundred years either no 330 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 8: trend or declining trends in this. So there's no there 331 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 8: there other than politicians who were badly prepared to make 332 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 8: lame excuses blaming it on climate change. 333 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, Mark moronell. Let me tell you something. 334 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: We've also seen record snowfalls in a couple of the 335 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: last winners. I mean record snowfall this Yeerra Nevadas that 336 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: should have been captured, that water should have been kept 337 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: it was and it went backed out to the Pacific Ocean. 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: You don't have enough water pressure in the fire hydrants. 339 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: In these cities. You have infrastructure that was designed to 340 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: have about half as many people live there that do 341 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: now they've not kept up with the times, and so 342 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: a fire of this magnitude was predictable now to be fair, 343 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: ninety mili hour winds in a fire, even if you 344 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: have water in the hydrants. There's not a lot you 345 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: can do about some of those things, but they could 346 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: have saved some of the structures. They could have saved 347 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: more of the structures. They were completely flat footed, unprepared. 348 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: It's not climate change unless the Masto downs were driving SUVs. 349 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't believe they were. But maybe I'm wrong, right, 350 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm nuts, Mark, Maybe I'm used to Denyre like you. 351 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 5: That's right. 352 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 8: Well, they shouldn't have run out of water. Now, interesting 353 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 8: you mentioned that about ten years ago they actually voted 354 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 8: for these reservoirs to collect this water. But guess what, 355 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 8: the voters voted it, and legally it should have happened. 356 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 8: It should have been fun, but it didn't happen. Reminds 357 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 8: you of this is the Seinfeld TV show reference from 358 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 8: the nineties, so perhaps I'm given my age, But there 359 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 8: was an episode where George Costanza tried to break up 360 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 8: with his girlfriend and she said, no, that's not going 361 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 8: to happen. His breakup didn't take. Well, here are the 362 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 8: will of the voters. Didn't take none of these reservoirs. 363 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 8: None of the water was collected. It's almost as if 364 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 8: they ordered it, and California said, you know what, now 365 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 8: we have other priorities, and we see what those priorities are. 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 8: Everything but funding the fire department, everything but fire suppression. 367 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 8: It's all and it goes back decades. When Arnold Schwarzenegger 368 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 8: was the governor, he literally passed the California Climate Bill. 369 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 8: He was declared a climate hero. This is what really 370 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 8: set California onto the path of expensive rationed energy, and 371 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 8: none of the measures he was called a climate hero 372 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 8: for took effect until years after he left office. California 373 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 8: has been the king of this climate energy virtue signaling 374 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 8: and it's now coming home to roost because they've had 375 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 8: such a misapplication, a miss priority. I want to say 376 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 8: this last thing here. Gavin Newsom is American's America's Justin Trudeau. 377 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 8: My hope is that Newsom will be following in the 378 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 8: footsteps of Justin Trudeau, because I think if you look 379 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 8: around the world, what's going on in the UK, what's 380 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 8: going on in France with Macron, the German government. A 381 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 8: lot of this is the environmental blowback. The EU had 382 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 8: to halt their version of the Green New Deal after 383 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 8: the EU elections. The Argentinian delegation pulled themselves out of 384 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 8: the UN finally side and all of this is happening 385 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 8: all at once. I think we're potentially on a political 386 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 8: renaissance that's going to echo back to the nineteen eighties 387 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 8: late seventies when we had Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher 388 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 8: come on the scene, and people like Gavin Newsom. There's 389 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 8: no room for them. Their future is that of a 390 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 8: great ex governor like Jimmy Carter was labeled after he 391 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 8: was out of office. They can praise him all he once, 392 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 8: as long as they don't rewrite his four years in 393 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 8: office Jimmy Carter, and that's probably what's going to end 394 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 8: up happening with Gavin Newsom. It's hard to see him 395 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 8: going to higher political office in the current climate. I 396 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 8: really think we're seeing a sea change globally, a pushback 397 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 8: against the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, and the 398 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 8: World Health Organization. 399 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Let's hope. 400 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: So. I think Gavinuism's all done politically. I think that's 401 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: over for a variety of reasons. Think for lack of 402 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: a better term, his political future went up in flames. 403 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: It did. This fire is the end of it for him. 404 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: It's over, and. 405 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: They're failed policies look mark terrible policies lead to terrible outcomes. 406 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: The reservoirs, as you pointed out ten. 407 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: Years ago, they're supposed to be built or not there 408 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: because they have all these and just think about this 409 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: the headache. It's California, all right. So let's say they 410 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: want to rebuild in Pacific. 411 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Palisades or in Malibile. 412 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: The permitting, the permitting will be just absolutely asinine and 413 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: almost impossible to do. 414 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: So what's going to happen. Here's my prediction. 415 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: Black Rock and State Street and some of these folks 416 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: are going to come in and buy up this land. 417 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: They're going to build five hundred condo units there so 418 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: they can have all I mean this real estate, some 419 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: of the best in the world. And they're going to 420 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: come in and gobble up and put five hundred units 421 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: where there have been two or three in the past, 422 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: make piles of money. And I will tell you the 423 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: Pacific Polisage and Maliboue will never be the same, not 424 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: because of climate change, but because of politics, politicians and 425 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: bad policy. 426 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you the last word. 427 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 8: Well, I'd like to see Gavin Newsom justin Trudeau the 428 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 8: perfect home for them. One could lead the United Nations, 429 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 8: the other could lead the World Economic Forum. They would 430 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 8: be loved at both those organizations. That's where I think 431 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 8: they should be headed. 432 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, go to Davos. Bye bye now, Mark great, I 433 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you should be in here. I certainly do have 434 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: a great weekend. Thank you, Steve, appreciate it all. 435 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: Right, up after the break, President elect Donald Trump sentenced 436 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: in Manhattan. 437 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: As we talked about earlier, stick around. We'll have more 438 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: on that coming up. 439 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, earlier today's unprecedented headlines. President elect Donald Trump sentence 440 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: in Manhattan Supreme Court after being convicted on thirty four 441 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: felony counts of allegedly false fighting business record. I say 442 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: allegedly because as you know, I'm not buying into any 443 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: of it. 444 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: This all stems from those infamous hush. 445 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: Money payments during his twenty sixteen twenty sixteen campaign. 446 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: That is now here's the twist. 447 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: Judge Van Rashan decided on an unconditional discharge that means 448 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: no jail time, no finds, no probation. However, as a 449 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: convicted felon, Trump does lose the right to own a firearm. 450 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: And will lead to provide a DNA stamp. 451 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: For New York's database despite this conviction, there's nothing legally 452 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: stopping Trump from taking office on January the twentieth. 453 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: Obviously, thank God. Joining NOD to discuss. 454 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: All of this is Conservative Caucus President Jim Faft. 455 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Jim, nice to have you back on the program. 456 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: God to be with you, sir. 457 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: I mean, as we've been talking about already this hour, 458 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: this is an embarrassment to the New York legal system, 459 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: to the. 460 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: City, to the state, to the governor. 461 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: They should have been stopped to this travesty, this circuit 462 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: should have been stopped a long time ago. 463 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: I just think they can't help themselves. I just think 464 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: they cannot help themselves. 465 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: Jim, No, they can't. They Listen. This is what's really 466 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: interesting is you're seeing a lot of people on the 467 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: left today and leading up to this in recent couple 468 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: of weeks, just really thrilled. Wow, this is going to happen. 469 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: He's going to be a fella in there. Happy to 470 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 4: make that point. It just re emphasizes that for Democrats 471 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: to destroy someone in a legal way is considered a victory, 472 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 4: but it's never considered a victory anything that the American 473 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: people get that benefits them, and that is a very 474 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: good way to make sense of what Democrat politics is 475 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: in the United States right now. And I heard Mark 476 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: Moreno just before this in the previous segment mentioning how 477 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 4: that political environment has changed. I think it has because 478 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: the American people got wind of this enough, because they 479 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: pressed it so hard during the elect this last year. 480 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: You know, I think that people are going to react 481 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: to this, and in the long run it'll be a 482 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: net good. But it's a total annoyance, sadly for Donald Trump, 483 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 4: who has really shown himself to be a magnanimous, capable leader. 484 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: Clearly the American people had a full understanding of this. 485 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: It was in full relief everything that had happened from 486 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: the time he came down yesterday, which has been almost 487 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: ten years ago, now that he's been in this political. 488 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: Crosshairs I suppose of the left. 489 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: And isn't it interesting is all this plays out now 490 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: you see people like Mark Zuckerberg, Oh gosh, we love 491 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. We're gonna have free speech, and we're going 492 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: to give a million dollars for his inauguration. You know, 493 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos the same, here's a million dollars. You know, 494 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 2: we really like what you're doing, and we're gonna make 495 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: the Washington Post more conservative. The Trump effect, Jim, is real, 496 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: and they can play games with this sentencing, in this 497 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: alleged conviction. 498 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: It'll get overturned. I mean, it will not stand. 499 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: The American people won't stand for it either, And I 500 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: think that there's real change coming. 501 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: I think the Trump effect is real. 502 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 4: Do you think, well, it proves how important political leadership is. 503 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: It should emphasize for every American citizen how important it is. 504 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: And sad that you have to do this, but this 505 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: is the price of being in a free republic. Every 506 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 4: American citizen has to pay close attention to what their 507 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: political leaders are doing. What's going on in California is 508 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 4: just the most acute instance of what the net result 509 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: can be when you don't do that in the long run. 510 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 4: I mean, these people in California, their lives are being destroyed, left, right, middle, 511 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: whatever they happen to be, rich, poor, they're all getting 512 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: harmed badly. And what's happening in California, what happened last 513 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 4: year in the election, This is entirely a problem of government. 514 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 4: It's not a problem of the American people. You know, 515 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: they've been beaten up on the American people for being 516 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: so rancor is and so divided and all this sort 517 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: of thing that they throw out, which is just fud, fear, uncertainty, 518 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 4: and doubt. The American people are in our problem. It's government. 519 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 4: Every major thing that comes down the road that destroys 520 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: us has a government nextus to it. And Zuckerberg and 521 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: Bezos and some of these other guys, they're coming out 522 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: of the woodwork right now because the tension that existed 523 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: before they were trying to comply with a new tension 524 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 4: has come. It's actually a freedom that has come and 525 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: they're responding to that too. But keep in mind, we 526 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: have to have good future political leadership too, or we 527 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 4: get right back into the same problem. So the next 528 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 4: four years are going to be really critical in trying 529 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: to reset the foundation while the fire that has been 530 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: raging above gets put out. 531 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but fighters create a lot of damage, 532 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 2: and it's not just the fire, it's everything comes afterwards. 533 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: And these fires are raging figuratively speaking. And there's a 534 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: lot of work to be done. And so I, first 535 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: of all, I believe that all of Donald Trump's cabinet 536 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: members are going to be seated. 537 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I do I think that he's going to have the 538 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: opportunity to lead. I do. 539 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: I think that he's going to be able to keep 540 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: the Republicans together long enough to get some big things done. 541 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: But I don't, you know, I don't think the honeymoon's 542 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: gonna last particularly long. 543 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: I think that they're going to continue to try to 544 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: kneecap him. I do. I think that there'll be efforts 545 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: to try. 546 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: To take him down, knock him down, shame him, tyren 547 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: feather him, all of that. 548 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: Jim. 549 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: I just think that the American people have become wise 550 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: to it. I'll give you the last word. 551 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: Well, the media has been decimated, the mainstream media. They 552 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: have no authority anymore. So I do agree they're going 553 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 4: to try to kneecap it. But you know where the 554 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: real threat's going to come. I listen to John Thune's 555 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 4: interview and Meet the Press last weekend where he says, yeah, 556 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 4: you know, we want the president to be successful, but 557 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: we have to help him understand what the contours of 558 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: the Senate are. And I sit back and say, what 559 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 4: do you mean the contours of the Senate? Let's put 560 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: new let's put New Angeles in the building. If the 561 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: contours that you're talking about are what he's got to 562 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 4: deal with. There is a real need to hold Republican 563 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: elected officials accountable to Donald Trump's agenda, which is an 564 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 4: American agenda. The Democratic Party has had a anti American agenda. 565 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: The Republican Party has not inspired the actual American agenda. 566 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 4: Donald Trump's doing that. They need to comply. He needs 567 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 4: to hold them to that. 568 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: You got that right, Jim, Thank you for being here. 569 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: It's uh, thanks, Steve. I'm optimistic. Ten days Togo, all right, 570 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: we're in crunch time right now. A new administration sworn in. 571 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: Like I said, ten days. But as great as that is, 572 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: and as great as that sounds, it also means our 573 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: enemies have days left to stir up trouble and they 574 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: won't quit after that. Either that could mean a cyber attack, 575 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 2: an invasion, or god. 576 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: Forbid, something more serious. 577 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: So until the longtime bureaucrats are out of Washington. 578 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm not taking any chances. 579 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: That's why I have an emergency food supply from my 580 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: Patriots supply right now. They're offering one hundred dollars off 581 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 2: there a three month emergency food kit. It's got two 582 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: thousand calories a day for three months. Plenty to get 583 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: you through even a prolonged emergency. 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You'd be glad you did. 592 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, the Ohio State University, the 593 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: world famous Ohio State seems to favor DEI associate professors 594 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: over others after report came out that shows just how 595 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: much funds they wait on these insane policies and educators. 596 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: We'll have details next. 597 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: Well. 598 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: According to a report just released by Open of the Books, 599 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: the Ohio State University, world famous Buckeyes, of course I, 600 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: allocated over thirteen million dollars in one year to salaries 601 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: for DEI staff and hosted a number of radical left 602 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: wing courses. Report revealed that in twenty twenty three, the 603 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: university spent thirteen point three million dollars on salaries for 604 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: two hundred and one DEI employees. The highest paid officials 605 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: earned three hundred grand annually in twenty nine. Others were 606 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: getting salaries over one hundred thousand dollars. Now, many of 607 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: these employees were affiliated with officers such as Diversity Inclusion 608 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: and Institutional Equity, while others were professors and departments like Women's, 609 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: Gender and Sexuality Studies. 610 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: Here with me to discuss this waste of university money. 611 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: As TPUSA contributor, my friend Stephen Davis, Steven, nice to 612 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: see you, my friend. 613 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Good to see you. Against the It's always a pleasure. 614 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Now you're down at TPUSA headquarters where you routinely spend 615 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: your days sorting through the insanity we find in places 616 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: like Columbus, Ohio and the Ohio. 617 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: State University of the world famous Buck. Guys. Look, I 618 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: don't even understand this anymore. 619 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: You know, DEI and WOKE policies and practices being done 620 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: by Low's, McDonald's other university are saying, look, we're done 621 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: with this, and yet some just persist. Maybe they're just 622 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: slow learners, Steven, I don't know, but this has this 623 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: is a dead end road. 624 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: I believe I think that we've proven that. 625 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: What do you say, oh, absolutely, it's a dead en 626 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: roll for US Americans. But when it comes to the 627 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: Marxist ideology that's crept into our American system, it's still 628 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: live and well, I mean, these people are obviously trying 629 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: to still do the long March of the institutions, which 630 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: is what Antonio Gramsy talked about, later coined by Bruty 631 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: Deutschka been trying to impiltrate and inffect every aspect of 632 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: American society, whether it's in this case the educational system, sports, media, politics, all. 633 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: And the like. 634 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: So it's it's necessary to understand what it is that 635 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: these people are trying to do. They are not letting up, 636 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: especially when it comes to their Marxist dreams of being 637 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: able to subvert our country and turn us into a 638 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: communist or socialistic utopia. So it's incumbent on us to 639 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: be able to call these people out, especially when it 640 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: comes to the funding that the taxpayer dollars of the 641 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: American people are funding. 642 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 4: It's not right. 643 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: And I think that President Trump needs a button down 644 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: when it comes to this sort of thing, and I 645 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: think he will. 646 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, he talked about a couple of days. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, 647 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: he talked about it. I think we're ten days out. 648 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: And Donald Trump said, look, if you're gonna have programs 649 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: like this, and I'm gonna paraphrase a little bit of course, 650 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: he said, we are not going to fund universities that 651 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: do these sorts of things that have this DEI and 652 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: this Wolk ideology, or allowed tense cities on college campuses 653 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: to say let's kill all the Jews. 654 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: That's not gonna be okay going forward. All Right, we're 655 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: done with that. We're done with this divisiveness. 656 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: We're done with this silly behavior and teaching kids to 657 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: hate America. 658 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: We're all done with that. I don't want to fund it. 659 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: You don't want to fund it, and Donald Trump's not 660 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: going to allow it to be funded. 661 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: That's what I think is going to happen. I mean, 662 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: it is a new day in about ten days, isn't it? 663 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I cannot wait. They are absolutely trying to infect America. 664 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: And actually there was a paper in twenty sixteen by 665 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: two women studies professors at ASU, and they stated as much. 666 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: They wrote a paper called Women's Studies as a virus, okay, 667 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: And their job was to teach students and train them 668 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: in critical theory of identity. That sort of thing, oppressor 669 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: of press paradigm when it comes to identity, whether it's 670 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 3: queer theory or gender theory and that sort of thing. 671 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: And they likened themselves to Ebola and the HIV virus, right, 672 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: And their job is to infect America and to affect 673 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: the students of undergraduate students, to send them out into 674 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: the graduate spaces and to the workspaces and affect those 675 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 3: respective places. And their job is to go up against 676 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 3: the quote unquote immune system, which. 677 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Is tradition so conservatism. 678 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: So it's up to us to be the immune system 679 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: when it comes to America to stop this type of 680 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: foolishness from taking root, which obviously has done that. We 681 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: got to nip it in a butt. 682 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are people that do not understand America. 683 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: They don't understand people like you or me, or ordinary 684 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: Americans across this country that go to work every day 685 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: and believe in this country and believe in our families 686 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: and believe. 687 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: Going in church on Sunday. 688 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 2: They don't understand any of us, Steven, and that's they're 689 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: just disconnected, which by the way, is why they got 690 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: handed a big fat al on the fifth of November. 691 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: I'll give you the last word. 692 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: Isn't that indicative of GEI I tell you that much. 693 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 3: But you know, we really need to wake up as 694 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 3: Americans and really really understand what's going on in this 695 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: day and age. And these people are not here to 696 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: make our country better that they're they're here to detegrate 697 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 3: it in every ship shaped way form of fashion. So 698 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 3: it's up to us to make our voices heard and 699 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: support President Trump as he does that. 700 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: You got it, Steven Davis. 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We need real solutions and a lot of 738 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: people need them right now, and that's where Done with 739 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 2: Debt comes in. 740 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: It's an innovative company. 741 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: You've heard me talk to them before for a new 742 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: debt relief strategy specifically designed to help people like yourself 743 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: if you're in tough times. 744 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: Joining me my friend Jillian. 745 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: Barbarie, a well known TV news personality who experience debt 746 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 2: stress firsthand before becoming a Done Debt client. 747 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: Jillian, nice to see you again. 748 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 10: It's so great to see you in the new year, 749 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 10: and thank you for that intro. 750 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 7: I am a Done with Debt client. 751 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 10: You know, We've had so many things go on in 752 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 10: our lives here in LA right now, so many of 753 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 10: the fires. However, for my situation, I am far away 754 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 10: from those fires, thankfully. But before all of this, I had, 755 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 10: you know, financial issues, cancer, divorce, raising two kids. 756 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 7: On my own and it all hit it once. Oh 757 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 7: and job loss that was the fun part too. 758 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 10: So Done with Debt now, I wish I knew about 759 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 10: them earlier because I lived very stressfully and it wasn't 760 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 10: really just the cancer. I mean cancer for me was 761 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 10: like I'm the onpologists. Have got that debt and the 762 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 10: government and money. That's a direct daily stress. Okay, I 763 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 10: would go to doctor get chemo. I left that behind. 764 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 10: But when their finances are sitting in front of you 765 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 10: like this and you're just freaking out putting them in 766 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 10: a drawer, this is big business, make no mistake. 767 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 7: Debt is huge business, not for us, right for others. 768 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 7: And that's why what I'd. 769 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: Like you to do, Yeah, what I'd like to do, Joan. 770 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: I want you to tell the folks because I want 771 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: you to tell the story of of you and how 772 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 2: you got there. I mean, because debt creeps up on you. 773 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: It's not like one day everything is cool. The next thing, 774 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 2: oh my god, I got this. It's just like, oh, 775 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: here's a little bit. Oh, I'm gonna buy some more 776 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: kids stuff for kids. I'm gonna buy some Christmas presents. 777 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: I want to go out to dinner and put it 778 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 2: on the credit card. You know, I'll catch up next month. 779 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 2: I'll catch up next month. And then okay, it becomes 780 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 2: this cycle. 781 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 6: Does. 782 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 10: Let me tell you my story being in television and 783 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 10: I was doing you know, a good day la I 784 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 10: did for many many years on Fox and then twenty 785 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 10: two and then I was doing movies and sitcoms and 786 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 10: talk shows and I the NFL on Fox. 787 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 7: I was so blessed. 788 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 10: But when that's happening and you're the quote, breadwinner, artist, 789 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 10: whatever you want to call yourself, you you are told 790 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 10: to get a financial manager and they will help you. 791 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 10: You can start an LLC, you can do this stuff 792 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 10: that I don't know about. So I trust this man 793 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 10: for over twenty years. I know people who have used him, 794 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 10: and so as my personality, I'm not a type A. 795 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 10: I don't control things. I just go out have a 796 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 10: great time. I mean on television and my personal life. 797 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 10: I'm raising kids at the time, and get the divorce. 798 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 10: So many things happen at once. Then you get the cancer. 799 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 10: He calls me the office one day and he says, 800 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 10: we we as in, he's with me on this. Of 801 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 10: course he's not. We owe seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 802 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 10: What my life came crashing down? 803 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 7: Get this time. I was bald, I was in chemo 804 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 7: you know, steroid it up and I collapsed. I ended up. 805 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 7: I did have a nervous breakdown down the road, which was. 806 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: Just I mean on of it. 807 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, how much pressure can you pun 808 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: on one person's head, I mean on a f I 809 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: mean in your story, sadly is not unique, because look, 810 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: medical debt is one of the leading causes, if not 811 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: the leading cause of bankruptcy in America. 812 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: So you've got all you have compounding factors. 813 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: And for some people it might be the cargoes blows 814 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: up or the furnace blows up. But I mean, my god, 815 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: you up in this place and you feel like it's doom, right. 816 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 10: One hundred percent. So five hundred thousand of my debt 817 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 10: was medical. So thank you for you know, reminding me 818 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 10: of that. And so I I you go into this 819 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 10: little shell. I sold my house. I sold every you know, 820 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 10: stupid Louisvuton bag that I ever had, like it meant nothing. 821 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 10: I kept a few things from my daughter. But the 822 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 10: big point is this. I thought somebody was taking care 823 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 10: of me and they weren't. And that could be a 824 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 10: person in your own home. 825 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 7: It could be your husband. 826 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 10: You think, if you're the bread runner and he's not 827 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 10: working for seven years, you just put yourself in a 828 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 10: position of thinking everything's great because I am a glasses 829 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 10: half full person. 830 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 7: It sure wasn't. 831 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 10: The glass was done dry, that glass was empty. So 832 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 10: what happened was done with debt. They oh, yeah, you're 833 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 10: not kidding. I actually went into my daughter's shaking it. 834 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 10: There wasn't much in there. 835 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 5: You know. 836 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 10: I went to Done with Debt and they literally run 837 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 10: defense for you. So immediately you are assigned your own 838 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 10: dedicated team, which I thought I had ironically, you know, 839 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 10: I thought that I had people working to help me, 840 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 10: and they were doing absolutely nothing. And by the way, 841 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 10: I was paying them every month three thy five hundred 842 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 10: dollars when I was a television personality to tell me 843 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 10: things and and that's my money. 844 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 7: None of that was going on. 845 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 10: Not only that, they didn't even communicate with me where 846 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 10: I was financially, They. 847 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 7: Just let things fly. 848 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 10: So what Done with Debt will do is they will 849 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 10: stop the phone calls that I was getting every night. 850 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 10: They at an immediate stock to the harassing letters. And FYI, 851 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 10: those letters that come they look so official. You don't 852 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 10: know if they're from a scamming attorney or if they're 853 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 10: from the government. 854 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: They're so much you don't know because they fill your 855 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: mailbox with these nasty grams, as I call them, and 856 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 2: it's unpleasant. So let me ask you this. We got 857 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: about a minute left here. I want to make sure 858 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: we get this in. I think the biggest obstacle a 859 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: lot of people face is shame. 860 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: They don't want to admit it. 861 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: They don't want to tell anybody. They want to hide. 862 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 2: You say you went into a shell. I think that's 863 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: probably the biggest obstacle. So what I want to help 864 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: people do here today, if you're in debt, they want 865 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 2: to make sure that you connect with people. Look, no 866 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 2: judgment here. We're not judging anybody. Look, people, get there. 867 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: We're trying to get you out of this deal. Jillian's 868 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: trying to get you out of this deal. She's been there, 869 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: she's past the shame. She's ready to get her life 870 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 2: back on track. So we got about thirty seconds here. 871 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 2: Tell folks, what do they do right now? 872 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 10: Okay, right now? Go to done with debt. They will 873 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 10: help you. They know the banking institutions, they know the 874 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 10: credit card companies. They can cut interest rates, they can 875 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 10: get rid of penalties, they can renegotiate your balances, and 876 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 10: they can put an end to your debt, your stress, 877 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 10: all of the rest, and in some cases you may 878 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 10: end up with money in your pocket. Believe it, because 879 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 10: they know the ins and outs. But go to done 880 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 10: with debt dot com. First you'll get a free consultation. 881 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 7: Check them out. You'll see testimonies. 882 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 10: I talk about mine openly because I for some reason, 883 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 10: I was never born with shame. I just put it 884 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 10: all out there, like verbal diarrhea. And the thing is, 885 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 10: people tell me it's helped them. So my honesty, if 886 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 10: it helps other people, go to done with debt, there 887 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 10: is no shame. And by the way, they are also 888 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 10: like counselors. Do it now, done with debt dot com. Yeah, 889 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 10: I love sharing my story if it helps other people. 890 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: Jillian, thank you for being here. Greatly appreciates you have 891 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: a great weekend. And I love a positive attitude and 892 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 2: she always brings that. She always fun to talk to. 893 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 2: Done with debt, a free consolation. Done with debt dot com. 894 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: Do that now, You've got not be lose. But that 895 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 2: pressure in all that nonsense. What a great way to 896 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 2: start the weekend. Speaking of the weekend, it's just about here. 897 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: We've got ten days to go until Donald Trump becomes 898 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: President of the United States, number forty seven. We'll appreciate 899 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 2: you spending a good part of the week with us. 900 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 2: Here again an America's Voice live on Real America's Voice 901 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: Start Monday morning with me live at six am here 902 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: on Real America's Voice with the Steve Rivers Show. And 903 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 2: I'll see you Monday afternoon back here for another edition 904 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 2: of America's Voice Live