1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week fourteen edition, the rematch, 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: and the stakes couldn't be any higher. Welcome Bird Gang. 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: On today's show, Zachersman joins me, it is the biggest 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: game of the season and there is no debate. So 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: what needs to happen to make sure the Cardinals are 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: on the right side of things? Plus, as always, we 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: head into enemy territory once again. Speak with Seahawks dot 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Com Senior reporter John Boyle at Cardinals Cover two, Episode 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: eight twenty eight and it starts now. 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: Budda Baker, What Heart? 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: What rent? 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: some more hurry magic. 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Krioler. 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: So it looks like or it sounds like, because this 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: is a podcast, it sounds like that Zach Gershman did 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: not get Wally Pipps, although god, I know, you know 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: you got some big shoes to fill. Darren Irman at 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Cards Chaddar did a fairly good actually, not fairly good. 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: He did a very very I'm gonna keep saying very 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: because I know Darren does does not like the like. 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 3: The word very used and would trust me, I've learned. 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: But he did a very good job in your absence. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: Last he keeps saying I have shoes to fill. Well, 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 3: when Darren can't write an article, who's got to write 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: the article? It's me? So yeah, I've had to try 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: to fill these shoes. But you know, kudos to Darren 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: for stepping in, being a team player, team above you 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: also just being you know, a solid boss at that. 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: So I guess you could give him his flowers a 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: little bit, if that's if he listens to those. 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Probably not. 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: Probably not. So with that being said, we could say 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: so many things about Darren right now. I'll just let 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: those thoughts yep, keep with me. Welcome back, Thank you, 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: it's good to have you. Welcome back to you. You 42 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: were working from home on Thursday? 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yes I was. I was here in spirit. 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: Yes you were. Yes, I felt it. You felt it. 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: It was in the air, in the air. 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: You know what else is in the air. 47 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: What's in the air? 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: The importance of Sunday's game again time. 49 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: And the reason why Craig phrases it like that is 50 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: because I asked Johnathan again and on Friday about the 51 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: importance of winning this game. Probably could have used a 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: different term instead of importance, the stakes of winning this game, 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 3: and JG gave a very coach speak response to a 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: question that could have been phrased a little bit differently 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: and said, yes, it's refreshing to know that the guys 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: think every win is important and every loss is important. 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: And it's moments like that where he says, Zach and 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: your second year in the league, that's a rocky mistake. 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: Quote. The importance of every game is critical end quote. 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: And he's absolutely correct, which isn't a bad thing, no, 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: because we have the most important game on the calendar 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: this coming weekend at State Farm Stadium. So let the 63 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: importance of this win mean something because it has to. 64 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals hosts the Seahawks. Two toh five is the kickoff 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium nine thirty am. Pregame coverage begins 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network will be joined by 67 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: John Boyle, senior reporter for Seahawks dot Com, A little 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: bit later Cardinals six and six, Seahawks seven and five. 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: And why this is the biggest game of the season 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: is because of what it means within the NFC West. 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals win, they are in first place. Yes, they will 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: have split the season series with the Seahawks, but based 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: off a better division record, Cardinals would be on top, 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: followed by the Seahawks. If the Seahawks happen to win 75 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday, then things get really difficult for the Arizona 76 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals moving forward. No, it does not eliminate them, but 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: it does make their road to the postseason that much 78 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: more difficult because they will have been swept by the Seahawks, 79 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: So you lose that head to head tiebreaker and because 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: of that, instead of being two games back, you're eleaite 81 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: three games back with four to play. So yes, mathematically 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: still alive. However, there are so many more obstacles for 83 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team. If they do not win on Sunday. 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: You go from controlling your destiny with a win to 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: hoping the chips fall in your favor and that Seattle 86 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: starts to crumble towards the second half of the season, 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: And on top of that, still need to win all 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: those other games the last four games of the season. 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: So this is one of those games where, yes, every 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: game is important, and that's a term we're gonna use 91 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: a lot because we don't want to undermine some of 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: the previous games that have happened throughout the season. To 93 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: win against the Miami Dolphins was a huge win. To 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: win against the Los Angeles Chargers or huge wins, they 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: were very important wins at those times at that part 96 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: of the schedule. But right now, coming off the buy 97 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: having had two losses, this is where you need to 98 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: tie to start to shift a little bit because with 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: three division games left on the schedule, five games left 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: on the schedule, and in general, this is where you're 101 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 3: gonna need to start making some magic happen a little bit, 102 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: but also making sure that the focus is locked in 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: one game at a time, even though it might be 104 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: a little bit challenging because you have, you know, talking 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: heads like us already talking about January and February and 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: what a game in December on December eighth means to 107 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: those dates. 108 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: You said it much better than I did in fewer words. 109 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals control their own destiny with a win. They have 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: to rely on others should they lose, and you never 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: like that scenario where now all of a sudden, it's okay, 112 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: take care of your own business and then hope that 113 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks lose, hope that the Rams lose. A team 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: like the Buffalo Bills, all of a sudden, you're rooting 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: for them this Sunday, you're rooting for the Jets, you're 116 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: rooting for You don't want that. Yeah, sure it helps, 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: but you want to be in control and be that 118 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: team that says, all right, it's on us now, as 119 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: opposed to saying, okay, we have to win. Plus you 120 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: don't want that extra level in order to make the playoffs. 121 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: And of course we're still going to be rooting for 122 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: those teams so that the Cardinals could continue to have 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: that separation within the division. But with that being said, 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: as I said earlier, as you repeated, when you control 125 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: your own destiny, this is a team that does well 126 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: when they know that all they have to do is 127 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: just strap up the helmet and get out there on 128 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: the field and play their brand of football when they plan. 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: When the Cardinals play their brand the football, the high motor, 130 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: the violence, the alignment, the key technique to detail everything 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: that this coaching staff continues to repeatedly talk about. When 132 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: that all happens that results to wins. You can't keep 133 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: shooting yourself in the foot. You can't keep going backwards 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: like we saw in the game against the Minnesota Vikings 135 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: where there were crucial penalties that really put them behind 136 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: the eight ball a little bit. We are too late 137 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: in the season to yourself to put yourself behind the 138 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: eight ball. And that's why controlling their own destiny is 139 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: that much more important than the Seattle Seahawks. They're saying 140 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: the same exact thing right now going to this one. 141 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: They know they win this They're viewing this as a 142 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: road playoff game, as we'll talk about in a little 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: bit with John Boyle. Because they're viewing this as a road 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: playoff game, they already are in the driver's seat. To 145 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: control their own destiny, the Cardinals need to take over. 146 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: They need to get behind the wheel and do it themselves. 147 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: And whether or not JG will say it publicly, at 148 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: least in that locker room, there are players who have 149 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: said publicly they understand the importance of this game and 150 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: what a win will mean, and now let's just speak 151 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: it in affirmative as far as yes, the Cardinals win, 152 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: they win, not if they win, but yeah, it is. 153 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: This is a huge game because of what didn't happen 154 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: in previous games for the Arizona Cardinals. 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: So they have put. 156 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Themselves in position to play meaningful football in December. You 157 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: want to be playing meaningful football from ahead as opposed 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: to all right now, we need this to happen. So 159 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: that's where the Arizona Cardinals are here going into Week fourteen. 160 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: It's a great position to be in. You just want 161 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: to make sure you remain in this position going into 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen. 163 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: Of course, and I think with the schedule how it 164 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: lined up like this, it reminds me a lot. It's 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: what my article is going to be about on Saturday 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: on Azycardinals dot Com. It reminds me a lot of 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: what we just saw in college football. It feels like 168 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: rivalry Week a little bit because of the importance of 169 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: this game. It's your last crack at the Seattle Seahawks. 170 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: John again and said that they left a bad taste 171 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: in their mouth, and because it was so recent, that 172 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: taste is still very fresh. When you have the chance 173 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: to mess up your opponents playoff chances in whatever way 174 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: it can be. It means a little bit more when 175 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: it's also your division opponent. You guys are fighting for 176 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 3: the same exact prize to be a top the NFC West, 177 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: and a win on Sunday for either team either solidifies 178 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: that or you regret or you regain that title and 179 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: you regain control of controlling your own destiny. I talked 180 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: with the guy that Kaisier White who said to me, no, 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: we very much. And he's a team captain, so he 182 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: has his finger on the pulse of this team, and 183 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: he said, no, we very much understand the significance of 184 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: it and how important the stakes are going into this one. 185 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: He's a guy that was in with John Deanna when 186 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles made that Super Bowl run. He was 187 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: a guy that saw the Chief's emergence in the AFC 188 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: West when he was with the Los Angeles Chargers. Did 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: they understand the division component of this? I think you 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: go into it preseason and you start to say, all right, 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: this is the San Francisco forty nine ers division. Hope. 192 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: I remember when we did interviews with a lot of 193 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: the national experts in the national pundits, they said, this 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: is the forty nine ers division, and they probably would 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: have put the Seattle Seahawks and Arizona Cardinals in third 196 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: or fourth and rotating between the two. The NFC West 197 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: has shaking up big time and it's going to take 198 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: another turn this weekend when because we're talking on the affirmative, 199 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: when the Cardinals beat the Seahawks. 200 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: It was two weeks ago in Seattle, Cardinals loss sixteen 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: to six. And that's why this game is so important 202 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: as far as splitting that season series. And yes, to 203 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: your point, Zachet, it is a division game. It is 204 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: a rivalry game. It is a game in which the 205 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals would like a little bit of revenge, some payback 206 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: to even the score. If you will, you look back 207 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: at what didn't happen in that Seahawks game as far 208 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals offense and the defense playing well enough 209 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: to win just offensively, just could not finish the job 210 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: and score more points than the sixth that they did. 211 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: So yes, much better is expected from this Cardinals on 212 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball in this rematch. Now, the 213 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: man who covers the Seahawks, how about we do that 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: right now, Seahawks dot Com their senior reporter, John Boyle. 215 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, we caught up with him earlier this week. 216 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: So it's been a long time, John, All good, since 217 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: we last talked about two weeks ago. 218 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, it's been a busy couple of weeks, 219 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: but yeah, all is good. Things are Sucks are a 220 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: lot better than they were a couple of weeks ago 221 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 4: when they came out out of their bye with a 222 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: four and five record. Now they've won three in a 223 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: row to get into first place, so things are pretty 224 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: good here at the moment. 225 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: It, Craig, the vibe is definitely very very different, you know, 226 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: going into this conversation, all. 227 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Right, you brought it up three and zero since the 228 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: bye week. What's been the change? What's been the difference? 229 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Is it something tangible or is it just the fact 230 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: that first year head coach Mike McDonald and his staff 231 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: have just had more time with the players. 232 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's the biggest thing, is just the 233 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: more time, especially on defense. The offense still has some 234 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 4: question marks. They've been a little less consistent, but defensively 235 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: and it really even started before the buye the loss 236 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 4: to the Rams, they kind of took a big step 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: forward defensively that game, and I think the main factor 238 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: there has just been the fact that there, you know, 239 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: guys are getting more comfortable in the scheme with what's 240 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 4: asked of them. But there have also been some pretty 241 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: significant personnel changes. They went out and traded for Ernest Jones, 242 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: who's been fantastic. They put the rookie Tyres Knight as 243 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: their other starting linebacker, replacing Tyrel Dobson who they let go. 244 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: So you know, they've added some guys the defensive line. 245 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: They made the change of their third cornerback. So there's 246 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: been some personnel changes for sure. But to me, the 247 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: biggest thing is just you know, time and the scheme 248 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: to get to know what Mike mcdal is really looking for. 249 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 3: Is that what you would credit it after the buy, 250 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: because to go to New York and then to shut 251 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: them out in the second half, to shut out Aaron 252 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: Rodgers and company, I mean, it's it's impressive, Like what 253 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: has it been specifically that has allowed the defense to 254 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: flip the switch after the buy? 255 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: I mean, more than anything, it's their run defense has 256 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: gotten a lot better and that you know, again, there's 257 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: been personnel things. I think some of it's schematic, but 258 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: you know, early on, when the defense is struggling, they 259 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: weren't stopping the run. And when you can't stop the run, 260 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: you're not their pass rush camp. I mean, big part 261 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: of Mike mcgoal's defense is, you know, these different pressures 262 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: he throws at you, the different things he can do 263 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 4: on third down that create you know, the sacks we've 264 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: seen recently, the turnovers they've had to pick six in 265 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: each of the last two games. None of that's really 266 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: happening if every third down then the team faces a 267 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 4: third and two, third and one because they're just gashing 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: it on the ground. So to me, it's really started 269 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 4: with their run defense and really getting a lot better again. 270 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: Going back, yes, after the bibe, but even though the 271 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: Rams game before that, well. 272 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: The Cardinals certainly saw that run defense, and the Seahawks 273 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: held the Cardinals to a season low forty nine rushing yards. 274 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: But the big part of that first meeting a couple 275 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, John was Leonard Williams. And then it 276 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: wasn't a one off. He did it again the next 277 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: week in New York. The reigning NFC Defensive Player of 278 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: the Week. What's gotten in to him. 279 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think he's been playing really well 280 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: all season, just the numbers haven't been there, which is 281 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: not an uncommon thing for interior lineman to have some 282 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: good games without the stats shown up. But I think that, 283 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: you know, again, this is just as this defense gets 284 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: more comfortable together, they're learning how to rush together, and 285 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: he's you know, he's getting more opportunities playing off other guys, 286 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: and Mike McDonald's quick to praise some of the other 287 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: guys almost doubly. Jaren Reed, a veteran defensive tackle, has 288 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: been here for a long time that you know, they're 289 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: kind of setting each other up for success. And you know, 290 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: at least he's lost the game. And Lyonon Williams has really, 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: you know, been playing his butt off one but also 292 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: benefiting from some good play around him. And you know, 293 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: the numbers have been you know, he had two two 294 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: and a half sacks against Cardinals and two sacks last 295 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: week and he had a third but it got wiped 296 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: away because he accidently caught Rogers' face mask in the 297 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 4: process of tackling him. But yeah, he's he's just been 298 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: awesome a lot a couple of weeks, been pretty unstoppable. 299 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: And he had the interception as well, ninety one yard 300 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: picks six. Have you ever seen a six five, two 301 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: hundred and ninety pound human being rumbling bumbling his way 302 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: down the sidelines like that? 303 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: No, you know, once he hit the open fields, like okay, 304 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: you'll get caught somewhere around midfield. And he even said 305 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: he think he's gonna run that far and he thought 306 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: he was going to pitch it to a teammate. But 307 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: you know, he was move and I think the next 308 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: gen stats hadn't gone seventeen point eight miles an hour 309 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: or something like that is fastest speed by a defensive 310 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: tackles in like four or five years. And yeah, I 311 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: mean he was he's moving. He's a big athlete, and 312 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: it was pretty cool to see. Nice catch too. You know, 313 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 4: he dropped into coverage and batted the ball to himself. 314 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: So heck of an individual play for my guy who's 315 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: just having a really good season. 316 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a really really impressive play to watch. 317 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: To watch the replay back and sticking on the defense 318 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: here a little bit, Trey McBride's had a lot of 319 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: success against Mike McDonald when he was in Baltimore. Trey 320 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: almost had his first one hundred yard game to only 321 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: have it, I'm pretty sure the next week and then 322 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: obviously two weeks ago one hundred and thirty three yard 323 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: twelve receptions. How much of an emphasis do you anticipate 324 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: limiting Trey McBride to be this coming weekend? 325 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we'll see how they do it. I 326 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: you know, there's always I think, you know, NFL offenses 327 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: are good enough that there might always be an element of, like, 328 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: you can't stop everything, so you know, if you can 329 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: take you know, again, I'm not speaking for Mike McDonald, 330 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: but I always wonder when you know, this happened with 331 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: why am I draw blank up in the Patriots high 332 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: end punter Henry Yeah. I do think sometimes there can 333 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: be an element of like, we're not gonna let Marvin 334 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: Harrison beat us deep, We're not gonna let receivers beat 335 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: us deep, and we're gonna stop the run. And sometimes 336 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: you can't stop everything, and if it's the tight end now, 337 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, they need to do better for 338 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: sure against McBride. One of the more animated plays I 339 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 4: can remember seeing McDonald on the sideline this year was 340 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: on a play where there's clearly a coverage mishap where 341 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: he was just wide open, and I think it was 342 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: like a twenty five yard game. So they need to 343 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: clean that up. But I do think sometimes there's an 344 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: element like you can't stop everything a good the offense does, 345 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: and when you have a mobile quarterback like Kyler Murray, 346 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: a really good running backs, some good weapons, and an 347 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: elite tight end, like, somebody's probably gonna get some yards. 348 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, how do you sort of determine 349 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: what your primary focus is and what you're gonna stop. 350 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: So again, they need to do a better job. You 351 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: can't let a guy have was a twelve or one 352 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: thirty three. That's tough to do. But if you can 353 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: promise them, hey, he's gonna have that, and we're gonna 354 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: hold Connor to eight yards again and hold the team 355 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 4: to two field goals, they'll take that every day. 356 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it becomes a difficult time for a defense 357 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: when they when you have an opponent that has so 358 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: many weapons as the Cardinals do have. I want to 359 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: go back to last week's game, Zach brought up Leonard Williams, 360 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: but once again we saw Gino Smith with another fourth 361 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: quarter comeback another game winning drive. What's the confidence up 362 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: there in Seattle, in and around the building as far 363 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: as when he has the ball in his hands. He 364 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: obviously was not great in that first meeting against the 365 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals in the first two and a half three quarters, 366 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: yet when it mattered most late, that's when Gino seems 367 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: to be Gino Smith. 368 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really kind of been his forourt all year, 369 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 4: or really, I mean since he's been the starter here, 370 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: but especially this year of like even the games where 371 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: things aren't going great or you know, against the Cardinals 372 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 4: and against forty nine ers the week before, he had 373 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: a you know, pretty bad interception that could have been 374 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: very damaging, and every time he does that, he team 375 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: seems to bounce back and you know, maybe having the 376 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 4: best drive of the game and lead a touchdown drive 377 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: and kind of did similarly, he didn't he didn't have 378 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: a turnover the game, but the offense was kind of 379 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: scuffle a little bit, and then when they needed to drive, 380 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 4: he put it together late in the game for that 381 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: go ahead touchdown and grand There were some penalties there, 382 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 4: but they were able to capitalize on it. So, yeah, 383 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: you know the numbers, you know when you'll get the 384 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: touchdowns interceptions. The numbers don't look great for you spent 385 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 4: this year, but he's he's playing really well. In The 386 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: confidence in him in general is very high, but especially 387 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: in those, you know, game on the line, late game situations. 388 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 4: They they love just sort of the confidence he brings 389 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: and in the way he plays in those moments. 390 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: Would you say that over the past couple of weeks, 391 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith, that Dag was taking over that that that 392 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: wide receiver one role because he really has been playing 393 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: lights out football. 394 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: Yes tough. I mean statistically he hasn't. I mean he's 395 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: led them in receiving yards. I think it's four or 396 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 4: five games in a row. Dk Metceff did miss a 397 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: couple of games in that stretch, but even with Metcalf 398 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 4: back last couple of weeks and jig But has been 399 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: there Smith and jig But has been their lead receiver. 400 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 4: You know, if you talk to opposing coaches, I don't 401 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: know that they would still when you talk about prioritizing 402 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 4: how you're gonna team against the Seahawks offense, I got 403 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 4: to think dk Metcalf is still kind of viewed as 404 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: that number one just because of his downfield threat with 405 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: his speed. So you know, it's kind of to me, 406 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: it's kind of almost a one a one and one 407 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: a situation right now, where you know, Metcalf is still 408 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: doing a lot of good things and sometimes that's also 409 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 4: creating opportunities for Smith and Jacob. But his emergence this 410 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: season has been big for this offense. I mean, he's 411 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: now top ten in the NFL and receiving yards and 412 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: receptions in his second season, so it's it's been a big, 413 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: big help for the Staeoks offense. 414 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: To be sure, we joked off the top John about 415 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: the fact that this is now the second meeting in 416 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: three weeks between these two teams. Who do you think 417 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: is there an advantage one way? Is it the team 418 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: that wins the first game. Is it the team that 419 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: loses the first game that thinks that they can get 420 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: to do something different to kind of even the score 421 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: a little bit. Where do you think the advantage might 422 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: lie here on Sunday? 423 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's it's really hard to say. I mean, 424 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: to me, it's sort of which a lot of it 425 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: can be which coaching staff adjust best to what happened 426 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 4: in that last game, because now you've seen what the 427 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: other team threw it you two weeks ago, and like, Okay, 428 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 4: if you're the Cardinals, how are you gonna adjust to 429 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: what the Seahawks did to stop your run game? Through 430 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: the Seahawks? How are you gonna figure out ways to 431 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 4: be more efficient on offense? And you know, get get 432 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: their run game going and get their offense going. So 433 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 4: I don't I mean, I know the Stahocks are coming 434 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: in is really confident. You know, if you look at 435 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: the current trajectory, both teams, Theoxen seem to be in 436 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: the better place. But you're going on the road against 437 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: the team that's done a lot of great things this 438 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: season and obviously has a lot at stake in terms 439 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 4: of the standings and tie breakers and everything. So I 440 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: you know, I couldn't tell you who has the advantage, 441 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 4: But I think we're gonna see very competitive, very physical, 442 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: spirited game, and I think it's gonna be really fun. 443 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned the stakes in this one. We're talking about it. 444 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: It's certainly being talked about, not in the building but 445 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: out of the building. Is there much talk in the 446 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: building in Seattle, around the town as far as okay 447 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: this is, this is almost an elimination game in the 448 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: NFC West. 449 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: It is interesting, you know, they they sort of came 450 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: out of the buy, you know, knowing that they dug 451 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 4: themselves a hole at that they lost five to six 452 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 4: at one point with sort of this and how you 453 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: like everything from here out's a playoff game, like you 454 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: got to be dialed in every week because they just 455 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: don't have room to drop a lot of games. So 456 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily know that they're looking at this any 457 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 4: different than what they've been saying for the last few weeks. 458 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 4: But they know that pretty much every game they you know, 459 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 4: they didn't leave themselves a lot of margins, so they 460 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 4: feel like every game is big. But I mean we 461 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: you mentioned you on talk aroundtown. Yeah, I mean that's 462 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: that's a big topic of like, look, if you win this, 463 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: you've got a two game lead and the tie break, 464 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 4: like that's pretty big, especially because you know, arguably Arizona 465 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: schedule gets easier than the Seahawks. Yoks still have to 466 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: play Minnesota Angry Bay right after this game. Whereas you know, 467 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: you if the Seahawks, if you lose this game, you're tied, 468 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 4: you know, depend on how things shake out in the NFC. 469 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: The Arizona would have the tiebreak, so it's you know, 470 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: pretty darn massive in terms of who's going to be 471 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: in the driver's sea going forward. 472 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes for a fun outing at least to 473 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: watch on Sunday. It is Week fourteen Cardinals and Seahawks. John, 474 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: always appreciate the time. We'll see you on Sunday. 475 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: Yep, see you Sunday. Thanks for having me. 476 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Really appreciate John joining us for a second time here 477 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of 478 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and piggybacking off of what we ended 479 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: that discussion with as far as just the importance what 480 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: a win or a loss means. You look at some 481 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: of the simulations or the analytics out there, and one 482 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: that I saw if the Cardinals win, let's speak in 483 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: the affirmative, Sorry about that, when the Cardinals win. 484 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: Podcast. 485 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: When the Cardinals win, their playoff chances increase to seventy 486 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: one percent. A loss, not all of a sudden, it's 487 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: seventeen percent. So that's why. And then you look historically, 488 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: based off what the league keeps track of teams that 489 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: begin their season seven and six have about a thirty 490 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: seven percent chance to make the playoffs. You go six 491 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: and seven and it drops to sixteen percent. As far 492 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: as historically how teams begin, So people that crunch the numbers, 493 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: people that pay attention to this understand that, yeah, this 494 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: might be not only the biggest game of the season, 495 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: this might be the biggest game of the week. When 496 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: you talk about playoff implications for each of the teams 497 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: that are facing one another. 498 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: Of course, and I I and you start to see, 499 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: you know, you have the Lions clinching a spy in 500 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and that's not a surprise considering you know, 501 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: their their record is one of the best teams in 502 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: the NFL. With that being said, though that you're out 503 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 3: of point now where teams are starting to get their 504 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: spots in the playoffs. The playoff field is going to 505 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: be a little bit more crowded as the weeks start 506 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: to go on. A game like this on Sunday, you 507 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: you you you rattled off the percentages. While that might 508 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: be the percentages, historically, there's a reason why those are 509 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: the percentages. It continues to happen. There's trends that that 510 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: that stem from these from these games and from these results. 511 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: This isn't the first time that a Week fourteen matchup 512 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: had some sort of playoff implications. With that being said, though, 513 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: these are two teams that I think are fairly ahead 514 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: of schedule. Kind of going back to my previous point 515 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: about those believing that this could have been the forty 516 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: nine Ers Division or the Los Angeles Rams Division. Not 517 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: to say that the Rams are out of this either, 518 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: but it's really just the two teams at the top, 519 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks Arizona Cardinals. That win. You want to have 520 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: your odds being above fifty percent, and that's what the 521 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: Cardinals would have with a win on Sunday. 522 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: You look at what this game means. Yes, okay, so 523 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: it's important. So what happens or what needs to happen 524 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: for this Cardinals team to actually get the win split 525 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: the season series snap a six game losing streak to 526 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. And the first thing for me that comes 527 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: to mind is just when you look at the first meeting, 528 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: what didn't happen as far as yeah, season low and 529 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: points scored, but just the fact that that run game 530 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: never materialized forty nine rushing yards on fourteen attempts. James 531 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: Connor was held to eight yards on seven carries, his 532 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: fewest and at least or his fewest production with it 533 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: at least seven carries in his career, So that to 534 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: me is number one established the ground game. Yes, the 535 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: Seahawks have been better against the run recently, but even 536 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: last week against the number one rush defense in the league, 537 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: you ran for one hundred and fifty four against the Vikings. 538 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: So it is there, and I do think that's priority 539 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: number one for the Cardinals on Sunday. 540 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 3: We've talked before about the stat that when James Connor 541 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: has over one hundred scrimmage yards, the team, I'm pretty 542 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 3: sure is what are they five and one? And when 543 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: he doesn't, that's the result you get. And that's what 544 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: happened in the game against the Seahawks. While you want 545 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 3: to include him in the past game, you need to 546 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: get James Connor, you need to get those legs move 547 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: in a little bit because the seven carries for eight 548 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: rushing yards is when you kind of have to rub 549 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: your eyes out a little bit and say, am I 550 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: really looking at this right? Well, against the Seattle Seahawks 551 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: in Week twelve at Womenfield, yeah you saw that right. 552 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: But my number one point when you're looking at this game. 553 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 3: That I think is most important is you can't keep 554 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: settling for field goals. You need to start turning those 555 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: field goals into touchdowns. Chad Ryland had a very busy 556 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: day against the Minnesota Vikings. The six field goal attempts. 557 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: IM pretty sure he made five of them, if I'm 558 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: not mistaken. I was watching that game at the airport, 559 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: so you know, the eyesight was definitely a little bit 560 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: all over the place. But even the game against the 561 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks, he missed a kick there. You need to 562 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: start turning those downfield possessions in between in between the tens. 563 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: You're great at driving down the field. What needs to 564 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: be done to make sure that you're able to get 565 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: in the end zone. What needs to be done to 566 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: make sure that Trey McBride finally gets a touchdown this 567 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: in this game. Those are the things that I think 568 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 3: Drew Ptson needs to hone in on as they continue 569 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: to game plan for what the Seattle defense is going 570 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: to look like. And you already know it's not a 571 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: surprise anymore what Leonard Williams could bring to the table. 572 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: The big Cat has been balling out this season. You know, 573 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: now he's the NFC Defensive Player of the Week going 574 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: into the going into this game, he could have been, 575 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: you know when they first played, but his teammate Kobe 576 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: Bryan had that it's going to be a very important one. 577 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: But they need to translate those three points into turning 578 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: into six or seven and. 579 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Make sure that Leonard Williams, in the words of JG, 580 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: doesn't wreck the game, which he did against the Cardinals 581 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back, and then did again last 582 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: week against the New York Jets with a ninety two 583 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: yard pick six and blocked an extra point plus two 584 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: more sacks, So he's on a heater, as they like 585 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: to say these past two weeks. And again it goes 586 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: back to the entire offensive line, because that first meeting 587 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Zach was I think maybe one of the worst performances 588 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: overall from the entire offensive line, especially how much pressure 589 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was under, and the fact that not only 590 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: was it the five sacks six quarterback hits, but he 591 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: seemed uncomfortable in the pocket. That's what defenses want to 592 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: make quarterbacks feel like. But on the other hand, it 593 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: was Kyler Murray feeling uncomfortable and it showed based off 594 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: his performance and the offense's overall performance against the Seahawks 595 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: defense that again, when you look at their numbers overall 596 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: this season, kind of average, but they have really picked 597 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: it up during this three game winning. 598 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: Especially after they came off the buy, which is what 599 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: has started this three game winning streak for the Seattle Seahawks. 600 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 3: But you talk about the offensive lines performance in Kyler's 601 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: comfortability in the pocket when they were facing Seattle in 602 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: Week twelve, that was also Joan Williams first game back 603 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: and to go back and play in that environment, and 604 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: over the TV broadcast, they were talking about how Drew 605 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: Petsing had to shorten the language of some of the 606 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: plays to try to avoid communication issues. Well, when you 607 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: have a guy sliding in returning for the first time 608 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: since the first quarter of Week one against the Buffalo 609 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: Bills in that sort of environment, when you start to 610 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: change things around, it could be a little bit difficult 611 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: to compensate. And I think that's what the Cardinals started 612 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: to see was that, yes, you know, we are going 613 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: to be getting out of Joan Williams, and I thought 614 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: he did. I thought the entire offensive line had a 615 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: really solid bounce back game the following week against the 616 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings. But when you go into that environment with 617 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: a little bit mixing and matching along that offensive line, 618 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: Joanah Williams wasn't as familiar with playing with Tristan Cologne 619 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: or Isaiah Adams he was used to playing with Will Hernandez. 620 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: That communication is where things start to shift a little bit. 621 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: But now you're back at home, you don't expect to 622 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: go into any sort of silent cadence. Let's hope. You 623 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: need the you need the Bird Gang to show out 624 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: in full force, be quiet when Kyler Murray's out there 625 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: on offense, and super loud when Gino Smith is out 626 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: there with the Seattle Seahawks, because you want to be 627 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: able to cause a lot of the problems that the 628 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks caused for the Twelfth Man, as they like 629 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: to call themselves, cause for Kyler Murray and company. We 630 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: saw it when I believe it was the game against 631 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears, and I think against the New York Jets. 632 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: How much of an impact the crowd truly can make 633 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: an offense is when they're trying to maneuver things around. 634 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: The New York Jets had problems along the offensive line. 635 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: The Chicago Bears had problems along the offensive line in 636 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: the game against the Seattle Seahawks we twelve. The Cardinals 637 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 3: had problems because they were they were mixing and matching, 638 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: bringing Joan and Williams back in trying to plug him in, 639 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: and then with with Tristan Cologne and Isaiah Adams. So 640 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna need everybody to really step up because Kyler 641 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: Murray needs to be comfortable in the pocket for this 642 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: team to have success on Sunday, it has been almost 643 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: a full calendar month since the Cardinals last playoffs. Has 644 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: to be you know, refreshed a little bit. It needed 645 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: everybody to be loud. 646 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: So again, kick off at two oh five on Sunday, 647 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: and you look on the other side when we talk 648 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: about the line of scrimmage and Darius Robinson making his 649 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: home debut his second game, twenty two snaps last week 650 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: in the loss at Minnesota, I do expect those snaps 651 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: to increase how much? Who knows And the question was 652 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: asked to JG on Friday and he kind of played 653 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: a little bit coy about it. But if you happen 654 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: to watch Cardinals game plan this week, It was asked 655 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: about Darius Robinson by both Calvic and wolf Ley, and 656 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: the quote was, the handcuffs are off. Handcuffs are off. 657 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: So I read that as you're still gonna have your 658 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: rotation yet instead maybe just on third down obvious past situations. 659 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna see Darius Robinson on the field, maybe even 660 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: start this game, but you're gonna see him more involved 661 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: and not wait until what was it series two? 662 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Two, and he only had about two steps. I tickets. 663 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna see fifty six on the field a lot 664 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: sooner coming up on something. 665 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: And I hope, speaking of the fan base, I really 666 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: hope that you know, they make sure to give Darius 667 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: the round of applause. I think he deserves. He's had 668 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: a valiant and he's had to come back. It hasn't 669 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: been an easy road for him that in all different facets, 670 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 3: from the injury front, from the personal front. So I 671 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: hope that the Bird Gang and their first opportunity to 672 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: do so, kind of puts our arm around Darius Robinson 673 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: a little bit because he does deserve that, and you're 674 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: gonna see that also in his response when he goes 675 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 3: out onto the field on Sunday. This is gonna be 676 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: his first taste of Division play, and I asked him, 677 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: like we whenever he talks about games, he always talks 678 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 3: about the SEC and how the SEC prepared him for 679 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: the talent level that he's gonna see it once he 680 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: continues to play in the NFL. And I asked him 681 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: about does this feel a little bit like a rivalry 682 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: week in the SEC? And he said, yeah, the the 683 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: correct answer is yes. But he's still you know, Darius 684 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: is gonna talk about just focusing on the next meeting. 685 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 3: He's so focusing on what's next and what's at the 686 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: present moment versus looking too far ahead. I asked that 687 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: question on a Wednesday, so I guess I asked too 688 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: early on in the week. But no, I'm excited to 689 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: see Darius get out there. You expect for him to 690 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: ball out a little bit more. You expect their announcers 691 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: to be mentioning his name a little bit more once 692 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: he is out on the field, because there were moments 693 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: where he had a double team that opened up the 694 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: door for l. J. Collier to get a sack. If 695 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: those opportunities happen, it's going to be It won't be 696 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: long before a lot of people start to notice his impact. 697 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: Speaking of impact the other item on Sunday, and this 698 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 3: is huge as far as the importance not only locally 699 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: but across the league. It is the ninth annual My Cause, 700 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: My Cleats campaign. More than thirty players for the Arizona Cardinals, 701 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: a handful of coaches are participating. I know you've got 702 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: a story up on Easycardinals dot com. Our team photographer 703 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 3: Kaitlin Epps has a great photo essay involving Calvin Beacham 704 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: and how he designed his cleats and his cause. But 705 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: this is something that draws attention to not only the 706 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: players because it looks good what the design of the 707 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: cleats are, but what are they in support of? What 708 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 3: are they drawing attention to as far as what we 709 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: hope everyone now supports, whether it's homelessness, whether it's underprivileged kids. 710 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: It's a great thing that the NFL started almost a 711 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: decade ago, and it's continuing for the Cardinals this. 712 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Week at State Farm Stadium. 713 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: And we've seen how they've been breaking their cleats in 714 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: a little bit throughout practices and you start to see 715 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: some of those causes and when you dive a little 716 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: bit deeper, you realize why some of these causes have 717 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 3: such a pro found impact on the players and why 718 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: they are so willing to talk about it. I know that, 719 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: you know a lot of different players are highlighting their 720 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: own foundations which which helped people from their hometowns or 721 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 3: focus in on things of that nature. But also with this, 722 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 3: I hope people go to Azycardinals dot com and they 723 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 3: watched the video of read Caitlin's article, of course, because 724 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: it is really good breaking it down, but also watch 725 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: the video because you get to see Kelvin Beacham's reaction 726 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: to Scouts artwork for the first time. He brought her 727 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: to the Dignity Hell Training Center here in Tempe and 728 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: they sat down and they did kind of a jersey 729 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: swap of sorts. Kelvin gave her a jersey. She gave 730 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: Kelvin the cleats that she designed and its causes, like 731 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: we know how important clean water is for Kelvin Beacham. 732 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: He's gone to various different places and helped out with 733 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 3: that cause. He's raised money for that cause. And now 734 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: on Sunday, when they start to see a lot of 735 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: colorful cleats flashing across their screens, or whether they're at 736 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: State Farm Stadium and they get to see it live 737 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: and in action, you're going to realize that a lot 738 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: of these players have causes that are very important to them. 739 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: And speaking of which, congratulations to Trey McBride, the Walter 740 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 3: Payton Man of the Year nominee for the Arizona Cardinals. 741 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: Have an article up on Azycardinals dot com as well 742 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: about that. Just Tray is him. Trey is that man 743 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: he on the field, off the field, he's done a 744 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: really solid job. And even earlier this week saw him 745 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 3: at an event shop with the Jock. Thirty underprivileged kids 746 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 3: working with a Desert Financial Credit Union had each had 747 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars to go spend on a holiday shopping spree. 748 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 3: A handful of players where there ten of them were 749 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: there and Trey McBride was one of them. So shout 750 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: out Trey and congratulations. 751 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: And Trey does a lot of stuff that doesn't get 752 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: publicized because if I remember correctly, Trey McBride's name was 753 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: not among the original lists. He sometimes wasn't shows up 754 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: at these events. And again, congratulations to him, well deserved. 755 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: He's supporting breast cancer. As far as Mike cause Mike 756 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: Cleats coming up on Sunday. So yes, an important game, 757 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: not only for the Arizona Cardinals and their position within 758 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: the NFC WES, but an important game, maybe more important 759 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: and we'll be real here, more important as far as 760 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: the causes that these players again not just the Arizona Cardinals, 761 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: but throughout the league this month, as far as drawing 762 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: attention and hopefully we can help more people because there 763 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: are several causes, not just around this state or around 764 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: the country, but around the world, specifically with Kevin Beacham. 765 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: It's world vision trying to bring water to places that 766 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: just don't have clean, healthy drinking water. So it's great 767 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: and again go to Aisycardinals dot com for all the articles, 768 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: the videos and Arizona Cardinals YouTube page as well, because 769 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: very well done in all parts. 770 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: And right on QE, we got an email from Media 771 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: Relations saying that the Cardinals are hosting a holiday party 772 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: for youth for the youth from the Boys and Girls 773 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: Clubs of the Valley and Cardinals. Walter Payaman of the Year, 774 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 3: Train McBride will be in attendance, Darling Thomas will be there, 775 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 3: Tip Ryman and a handful of the cheerleaders joining approximately 776 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: twenty children from the Boys and Girls Club for this event. 777 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: So the media relations was listening in to us. 778 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: The work never ends and it does not stop for 779 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Walter Payton Man of the Year Award winner. 780 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: Now we just need to see Trey McBride get a 781 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: w on Sunday before that event coming up next week. 782 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Zech and hopefully you are back to cover 783 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: a victory on Sunday. 784 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: I hope. So look, I would love for us to 785 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: talk on Friday of next week and say, man, that 786 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: went against the Seattle Seahawks was important. How about this 787 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 3: important game, the most important game of the season against 788 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. But one week at a time. 789 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: One no hope to see everyone out at State Farm 790 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: Stadium again. Two five is the kickoff nine thirty. You 791 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: want to be listening The Arizona Cardinals pregame radio coverage 792 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: begins at nine thirty AM on Sunday afternoon. And on 793 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: that note, we'll put a li on this edition of 794 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, proud partner the Arizona Cardinals. 795 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: As always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Mamahundra, 796 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: our associate producer, Coddy Venture for Zach Kershman, I'm Craig 797 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: Real Lou. 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