1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Where a flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton, 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Hey, it's Thursday. 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: What are we doing today? Kurt ya, I don't know. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: You're leading the show. You don't know, man, We're doing 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense Saints. I never know which direction you're going. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Do y'all think before we get into this, Do y'all 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a high scoring game because 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: it's got the potential to be a shootout, right or 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: can Bridgewater do that? And that was the question I 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: was saying yesterday, is you don't know what this game 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna be. I mean, you can give a score, but 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: until we see what's happening. Because I know that they 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: are talking today defensive coordinator as the head coach saying, fellas, 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: we cannot let them explode. We we have to you know, well, 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: they play I call it a numbers game. If it 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: is inside they kicked the ball inside the twenty five, 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: you come out and you run the ball, You see 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: what's happening, and then you build from there. Or as 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna come and say, you know what, the Cowboys 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: are gonna score thirty no matter where we had on 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: the field. Any chance, every chance you get this beat aggressive. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: But that depends on what they feel about Teddy Bridge Bridgewater. 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna correct there. No, you're right. Yeah, it's just 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: my gut feeling. Gut feeling. Cowboys gonna score thirty. You 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: don't think no, no, no, at least I thought you 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: said they want no, No No, they're they're going to score 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: at least thirty. Now what the Saints do? None of 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: my concern. Cowboys gonna get you, gonna get you hot, twenties, 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: low thirties. That's just the way this offense flows. Now, 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: the defense keep them to twenty points? Who is that 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: our defense? Defense? You know they had two defensive touchdowns 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: right last weekend, a special team touchdown the Saints, a 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: pump and a return and a yeah yeah. So so 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: let's see. I mean this is a test. I think 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: this is a test for the Saints too, because they 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: have not stopped anybody defensively. Now, the big challenge is 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: gonna be their defensive end versus our right tackle, uh, 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: our corner, their corner h Lattimore. Let's see what. Let's 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: see what he choose to cover up? They play that game, 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: they may not fear because but man Cooper may have 41 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: a bomb ankle. So who is the next guy? Gallup 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: is not there? Who is the next guy? I mean, 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: do you see around the cab as a feature guy? 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: I mean he can maybe do it on certain plays 45 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: in certain situations. But and he walked walked out and 46 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: say hey, I'm next man up. Well, here's where Keller 47 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: Moore comes into play, right right, the good coaches, the 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: good ones, they scheming up to where they're putting their 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: offensive players in the best position possible. So if the 50 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: if the advantage is Randall Cobb on dB whoever Kenny 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: draw it up and call it to get that mismatch 52 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: or is it Eli Apple is gonna give up someplace. 53 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: He just had that ability, that not the ability or 54 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: the lack of the ability to just be shut down. 55 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: He is the one guy I wouldn't I wouldn't want 56 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: to attack a Lottamore all the time. I'm not afraid 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: of him. And there's a guy that I want to 58 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I want to test his as they say, Texas gangster, 59 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Eli Apple, that's the guy I want to test. And 60 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: so how do we get there? How do I get 61 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: a Marie on him? How do I get a Mario 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: on him running certain routes? How do I get Randall 63 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: Cobb on them running certain routes? How do I get 64 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: whoever it is? We feel we have a distinct advantage 65 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: of how do I get that matchup? We always bring 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: this up. This is how the Patriots do their business 67 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: is I don't have to call forty different plays. I 68 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: can call the same play forty different ways, and it's 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: all dependent upon what matchups do I want to get. 70 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Who's going to give me the best opportunity to succeed 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: in that matchup? They their corners play sides, or they 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: follow their guys, they stay, they stay. Yeah, that makes 73 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: it a little easier, didn't it. Yeah. I think the 74 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: interesting thing about this game is the last few times 75 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: that they've played you, as a Cowboys fan, we're relying 76 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: on the defense, hoping the defense could control their offense. 77 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: Think what makes this game interesting is you're not that 78 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: worried because for the first time, your offense can score 79 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: with anybody in the league. So you're not scared to 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: get You don't want to probably get in the shoot out, 81 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: but you're not afraid to have to get into one 82 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: to be able to put your position yourself in position 83 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to win. Usually it's like Man the Deef, especially with 84 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Drew Breeze out. You're expecting the defense to do decent, 85 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: but the offense can score you points. So well, First 86 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: of all, I want to say about yesterday you did 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Larry Avandale and they were telling me a lot of 88 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: people said, we won that game, did you? Yeah, we 89 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: won that game where Larry you got mad at me 90 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna cuss me out and shut and as 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: in your words, shipped me down the whole rest of 92 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: the show because of that. You down. But anybody want 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: to apologize, I didn't go to tankas if we really won. 94 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: But Moves Johnson say we won that game. Stole my 95 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: bit in my thunder. Yeah, Bill Jones, we won the game. 96 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: So but then I don't tell you how fearful I 97 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: was going into that Terror Dome, so I thought we 98 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: lost every game with it. Now but anyway back, but 99 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: you guys, man, I just don't know what this game 100 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be because in that dome their defense does 101 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: have a tendency to diratchet up a level. If you know, 102 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: they could be ranked number twenty five and they going 103 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: their own dome and all of a sudden they playing 104 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: like a number five, top five ranked defense because you 105 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: cannot hear you, you just cannot hear. And unlike other teams, 106 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: I say, the kan City Chiefs going there are the 107 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: New England Patrins and they get up a score and 108 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: the you know, the crowd get quiet. That ain't happening 109 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. They ain't gonna get quiet until we 110 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: beat them in a convincing Well we get fourteen up 111 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: and they made him like, oh, maybe different cowboard. But 112 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: if we but then striking this, they are not gonna 113 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: shut up. Yeah. And Jesse, you brought up a great 114 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: observation yesterday talking about Bridgewater and how he throws all 115 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: of his passes near the line of scrimmage or they 116 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, get Kamar out in space. Kurt did a 117 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: great job when found affic. If you can put it 118 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: up on the screen, Kyle, Um, this is explained to 119 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: everybody that isn't watching what this will be. Kurt. It's 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: just a chart. It's a spray chart, I guess you'd say. 121 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Of his passes and the bulk of him, almost all them, 122 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: pretty much all of them are ten yards or less 123 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: like we had talked about after the show yesterday. So 124 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: he's everything's dropping, dumping off underneath. Yeah, there's your chart. 125 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: So the blue lines the line of scrimmage, and you 126 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: can see what are the what are the blue dots 127 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: Kurt blue or the touchdowns? He had two touchdown passes 128 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: which both were dump offs in the behind the line 129 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: of scrimmage of the guy just found an opening and scored. 130 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: And then the green dots are just completions, right, so 131 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: you can see there's several out to the left in 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: the flat, and then everything's close to the line of scrimmage. 133 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: And then there's a graphic that you pull the dak 134 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of the opposite of where he's been complete 135 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: and everything. He's most of us still underneath, just given 136 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: the nature. But he's definitely going a lot deeper than 137 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: and he has in the past, and there's a lot 138 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: more dots on that chart than there. But I guess 139 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: my question is how do you defend that? How do 140 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: you offend those quick passes underneath? You tackle? You just 141 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: you let him matter, you stop him short because you 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: can't stop it's almost unless. The easiest thing I've seen, 143 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Jess is when you know a guy setting up to 144 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: block you. Then you just take off to the guy 145 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: and now you're racing the ball hoping that you can 146 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: time it as soon as he catch it. And that's 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: when they do the little drop back passes off the 148 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You know. But most guys like of 149 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is ill, they're gonna get a yard or 150 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: two's you just gotta make sure you tackle them because 151 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: that's a three yard game. What you opened for is 152 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: a bad pass. You're like, Okay, he can't complete this. 153 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: Because when you give a great athlete a chance like 154 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: this kid, they're showing on the screen, Kamara, Bro, that's 155 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a bad headache waiting to happen. Man, you gotta win 156 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: first down. Yeah, you gotta win first down like that. 157 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: That is where this is how. This is how you 158 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: eliminate that. You gotta win first and I shouldn't say eliminate. 159 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: This is how you you lessen their percentages of being successful. 160 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: If you can get this team and with this quarterback 161 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: you just saw the charter. He doesn't want to throw 162 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. If you can get him 163 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: in a situation where he is in third and eight, 164 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: third and nine, third and ten. Now you're talking about 165 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: being able to set up a defense, because when when 166 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: you're a third down, first thing come out of your 167 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: mouth as a defense is alert screen. It's the first 168 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: thing you say when you're when you're a defensive player 169 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: and it's third, third and eight plus hey, hey, alert screen, 170 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: alert screen. You're already on a high alert first screen. 171 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: So that's the first thing in your mind. So even 172 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: as a rusher, whether you're Crawford or whoever you're you're 173 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: rushing with the sense of okay, let me let me 174 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: see how this guard is playing. Is he playing? Is 175 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: he sitting backsaw off to old lamy right, your your your, 176 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: your spidy sittens beginning to go off? Because now, alert screen, 177 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: alert screen. If you can win on first downs with 178 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridge right at the quarterback and get them into 179 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: definite passing downs on third down again thirty and eight, 180 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: thirty nine, thirty ten, the percentages go up because you 181 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: put them in a you put them in a position 182 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: where I know you gotta pass now or run a screen. 183 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: But when you're getting in, if you go back and 184 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: you look at it, when you put the Saints in 185 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: second and third and three, third and four, second and five. 186 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: Now the playbook is open to do whatever, and I 187 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: can call a screen, I can dump it off to Kamara. 188 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I can throw a quick one to the tight end, 189 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: right cook. Those type of things are are happening because 190 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: they're winning first down. They're not finding themselves behind the sticks. 191 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: So when you get to that manageable third down, they're 192 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: winning because something like you just said, right, I give, 193 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I give, I would commerd the ball. He gonna get 194 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: three yards, four yards. So if it's thir if it's 195 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: thirt and three, I feel comfortable with saying, here forty one, 196 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: take it and do what you do. And as he 197 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: was talking, I produced was showing this dude, and I 198 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: wish you would show that cliff again the Seahawks game. 199 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: These are some of the better Seahawks are good tackling team. Brother, 200 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks is watched this brother, He don't broke down everything 201 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: in this dude? Would you would? You would? You like? 202 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: This dude is special. Now that's why they let Ingram go. 203 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: If he was not special, they would have tried to 204 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: keep Ingram. Yeah, that's why they let Ingram grow. He 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: is special. Man. How is their their off? The Saint's 206 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: offensive line good. See. That is the most underrated thing 207 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: I think about the Saints is their officive line. People 208 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: keep trying to down. Oh they're okay, They're just good enough. 209 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: They're just good enough to get everybody over and and 210 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: and with Drew Brees there he works magic behind that line. 211 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: He works magic now and I hope it don't happen 212 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: in this game, but it just getting tend the Bridgewater 213 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: with Peyton. Another week and he gonna be working magic. 214 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: This is a good offensive line. This is good office. 215 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: This I'm telling you not. And people don't ever talk 216 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: about Sean Payton. And I keep saying this over the 217 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: last four years. This project started four years ago where 218 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: in his mind he was like, I'm not gonna be 219 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: with Brees much longer. He started building his team and saying, 220 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, and he's always believe in offensive line. He 221 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: got that from his mentor parselves. He's always like that. Now, 222 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do is find that defensive match. 223 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: He had rankings and he was hoping your boy, Marcus 224 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: damn points. He's not. He's not fulfilling it yet. I'm 225 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: not saying that he can't, but he has flashes. He 226 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: has flashes. He's not consistent enough. But it's secondary. I 227 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: promise you you let this this front Hickerson and all that, 228 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: you let them start coming and even Eli Apple started 229 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: looking good. I'm serious, No, And it's difference with this 230 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: secondary um. For the Saints, they're playmakers, yes they are. Man, 231 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: you know what I'm like. You got some guys like 232 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: you have some guys who just play coverage. You have 233 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: some guys know they're looking to make the play, they're 234 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: looking for the interception, they're looking how can I go 235 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: and get me one so I can go dance at 236 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: the other end of the end zone on the pick six. 237 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: But for the Cowboys defense, and you've heard we've all 238 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: heard this term one hundred times. You hear culture screaming it. 239 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: They literally do drills in practice for it every day. 240 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Leving guys to the football, leving guys to the football. 241 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of Alvin Kamara. Eleven eleven bodies better 242 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: get to the football when he has it. He's not. 243 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: When you look at running backs, you go, oh, well, 244 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and his prime, he was just so powerful 245 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: and he's just so strong or you know, uh, Barry 246 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: Sentence was just so shifty, and you don't know how 247 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: to I don't know what category to put him in 248 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: because he is slithery, he is elusive. You're not you're 249 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: not shoulder tackling him, you're not arm tackling him. But 250 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: he ain't a big dude. He's he's not a big dude. 251 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: But if you don't bring everything, if you don't bring everything, 252 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: square him up, thud them, wrap him, hold on, wait 253 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: for the calvary. You're not one dude consistently. It's not. 254 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. I don't care if 255 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: Sean Lee, I don't care if latent vander Esh, I 256 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: don't care if Jenny Smith. One dude is just not 257 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: going to bring him down on a consistent basis. Now, 258 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: it may happen, but you keep finding forty one and 259 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: any any one of your players one on one in 260 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the open field. I'm like, I'm like Mama Grows, I'm 261 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna bet big on a fifty one point. I'm gonna 262 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my chances with forty one in the 263 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: open field. One time. You're gonna have to bring your pads, 264 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: your feet, your technique, and the rest of your boys. 265 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: When he gets the base. You talked about the open field, 266 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: like thirteen of his sixteen runs against the Seahawks were outside. 267 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: How does that change how you defend? I mean, or 268 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: the linebackers play a little further out, or I mean, 269 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: what changes what you have to do? Number one? What 270 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: if you're trying to run him out there? Your defensive 271 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: ends have to always think he's set the edge first, 272 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: and ain't no just taking off running up the field. 273 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: Just set the edge and see what's happening. If it's 274 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: a run, if it's a pass, you're telling your linebackers, 275 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm gonna defer the jests a little 276 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: bit more. You're telling the linebackers, if you square up, 277 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: push him towards the other pursuit. If it's going to 278 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: the outside, push him out of bounds. Let the out 279 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: of bounds be your savior. If it's if you think 280 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: it can get you to the inside, make sure somebody coming. 281 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: But don't just lunge out there and give him two 282 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: ways to go. Yeah, that's what that linebacker. Then he 283 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: square it up and he's just like, oh, don't you 284 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: know you just un long. You gotta push him somewhere 285 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: to help you. That's how good is that when we 286 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: used to blagains Bearer sounders coach John's like, hold on, fellow, 287 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: don't just run out there and think you're gonna tackle 288 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: this guy. Push him somewhere towards some help or out 289 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: of bounds. Don't don't go out there. Just square up 290 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: on this duty to give him two ways to go. 291 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: And then this is the hello late in the game 292 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: he needed. First year, didn't even run you over right, 293 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: They did pretty good against him. Last year. I think 294 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: he only had like thirty six year olds or something 295 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: like that. He was the feature. He was the feature 296 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: though he was okay you and I went you this. 297 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: This is not an Ingram splash Camaro thing. This is 298 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: we're breezeless. This dude was going from twenty percent of 299 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: their offense and I maybe over saying it from last year. 300 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: So he's gonna be twenty five or third he I 301 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: saw him take over a game. They try to let 302 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: him take over the RAM game, but it was too late. 303 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: But they let him take over against ye see album 304 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: and when you hear a coach and see, y'all know 305 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: how I feel about the head coach. I love to 306 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: see out the head coach. 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Go to Tommy 349 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: John dot com slash Cowboys for twenty percent off your 350 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: first daughter Tommy John dot com slash Cowboys. Cool. Thanks, Kurt, sure, 351 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Thanks Miles. What's that? What's that guy? Name? Which guy? Yeah? Kyle? 352 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: What are you doing tomorrow? Yeah? Hey Kyle? Hey, what's up? You? 353 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: And William? Y'all? Okay? If we go that cow k 354 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: y L y L. I put it in your phone 355 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: like ten minutes ago. Oh yeah, you to do with 356 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: the funny last name. Yeah, that's fine. If that's how 357 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: you remember me, that's all. That's all that matters. That 358 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: to do this creamed in our ear that on Monday 359 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: he did scream though he did? Yeah, like Reno on, 360 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: are y'all good? If we go at twelve thirty tomorrow? Yeah, 361 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: that works for Kaden as well. I'm good. Where's Kaden? 362 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: He ain't got right here, he ain't got nothing to 363 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: do with his show? Yes I do, I'm right here. 364 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm maintaining. Hey, Kaden, that's that's the new line. Thanks 365 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: for maintaining on the screen. Can you put Katon on 366 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: the screen? Man? Nice hat by the way, Wow, that's 367 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: the guy in the back man. There's the whole crew, 368 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: Kyle the new guy, Caden the maintainer, and William the whatever? 369 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: What what is? Will wrote your nickname? William will will 370 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: William knows everybody. Yeah, Jesse's got a real hot boy. Yeah, 371 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: probably hurt his feelings now that that Taco is still 372 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: a hot boy and he's in Miami. Will was the 373 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: only hot boy that didn't play for the Cowboys now, 374 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: not cheap and Choles sack. But where do you place 375 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: that in amongst the cowboy grads? First day was the 376 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: same day? What's that? The fun fact is me and 377 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: Taco's first day was the same day. Oh man, you 378 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: out lasted Taco. Congratulations the first round pick that normally happen. 379 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: I got a few myself. Does that rank right up 380 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: there with on all times sacks? Right there with Michael Strahan, 381 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Sako Brett Farve to break the sack record? Yeah, both 382 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: of them was a joke, Jesse. Jesse has a Cowboys 383 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: had on two days in a row. You're really really 384 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: driving this cowboy fandom, aren't you. I believe he said 385 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: he worked, He say he worked for him. So I'm 386 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: just trying to hold on to all the little jobs 387 00:22:49,920 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: I got off, just trying. I gotta do talk more 388 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: about You're talking more about hanging with the boys. Do 389 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: you now? Do you use to? You just talked me 390 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: about what you got inspired? Native inspired? Oh awesome? All right? 391 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. I think from what we hear from everybody, 392 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: the biggest concern outside of this room, and maybe inside 393 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: this room is your front four seven seven front four 394 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: keeping those guys off your second three. Yeah, because they 395 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: obvious last year they had a great game against New Orleans. 396 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: They were flying all over the place. Saw what happened 397 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: in the playoffs with the Rams. If you can keep 398 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: those linemen off your linebackers, it's a totally different look. 399 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Should we be concerned about that this game too? I 400 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: like New Orleans offensive line? I really do. You heard 401 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: me talk about it earlier? Uh Christian von Tristan Hill, Uh, 402 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: MALIEK Collins and who else would be there? It's a 403 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: fourth guy because they're gonna have to go with four 404 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: inside guys this week. Carry Hyder or either Daniel Ross. 405 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: He's still with us too, right, He's gonna Okay, those 406 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: four guys gonna have to really compete this week. Because 407 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: we talk about how great forty one is. They got 408 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: another guy, the sound train. Yeah, he's got the ability 409 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: to hit inside. I think that they're gonna watch film 410 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: and they're gonna say, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna hit 411 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: inside with these guys. We're gonna make we're gonna stress them. 412 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: But the quick passes, when they go for these quick passes, man, 413 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: our corners gonna have to cover. They make Teddy hole 414 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: at ball, make Teddy hole at ball, and they pressure 415 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: up the middle middle push him out. If these quick 416 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: passes come out, we're in trouble. Now. That's just what 417 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: I believe, because that not that don't give our middle 418 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: guys a chance to push, and that that way eye 419 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: size guys can be affected. Now I know when the 420 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: game first start, I know that that's what's gonna happen. 421 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: But that's the game you can't win. And correct me 422 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: if from wrong with Jesse, But I don't think you 423 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: can win the game against us with just quick passes 424 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: down the field. No. Not the new offense yeah too explosive, Yeah, 425 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: it's too explosive. But the biggest thing for our defense, 426 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: it's Fitz. Yeah. Fits you get you can't have and 427 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. You can't, Jalen. You 428 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: can't be this erratic person. Layton. You got to know 429 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be. Your fits are going to 430 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: be so important because I do think they're going to try. 431 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: They're gonna This league is a league where whateverever you 432 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: showed on film the week before that there's a soft spot, 433 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: they're gonna test it. And they have the personnel, the 434 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: offensive line, they're running backs to do. So. Now, how 435 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: do I get Teddy Teddy Bridgewater to be effective in 436 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: what he wants to do. I don't want to pass 437 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: the ball down the field, not early. I need those 438 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: linebackers to do what step up? You bring your safeties 439 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: up any too? No, No, because at the end of 440 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: the day, here's the thing, here's the thing. They still 441 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: got Michael Thomas, they still got ted Gain right, and 442 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: you said it. I believe you. I'm with you. Tech Gain. 443 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: If it ain't forty yards or deeper, take gat ain't 444 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: really get there. So but this game when we come 445 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: back on Monday, I'm presuming a dub. But if it's not. 446 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: It's going to be directed on those front seven on 447 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: the defense, be a look back at and go these 448 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: guys didn't show up. If it's an L, it's because 449 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: those guys didn't show up and wasn't alignment assignment sound 450 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: for four quarters of football. That's where this game is 451 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: going to be won and loss. I don't believe teddy 452 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: Bridge was gonna throw for four hundred yards. I don't 453 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: believe it. I just I just don't not saying that 454 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: the kid. I just don't think that's going to happen. 455 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: You kind of you guys mentioned a little bit yesterday 456 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: about tackling has been a problem for this team, and 457 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: Camara leads the league and forcing mis tackles. I mean, 458 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: how is that something you correct? Is it positioning? Is 459 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: it just not wrapping up? It won't to what's technique? Defense? 460 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: Ain't nothing but seaball get ball. But it's all about 461 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: angles and technique understanding. Okay, it's third and five. What 462 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: can possibly happen from what you've seen on film and 463 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: what the situation dictates. Now it's about rallying to what happens, 464 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, and if it's third and four that they 465 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: option I want to say due to the back that 466 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: they have and Michael Thomas is his name, and the 467 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: great short route runner that he can be. Like, Yes, 468 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: that was telling Jess and he told me what it 469 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: was where he just coming curls in that I think 470 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: could be in the weal from five to ten to 471 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: fifty where he's just running curl right in the middle 472 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: until an open spot. David doing that forever and you 473 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: have to stop that. So you have to tackle and 474 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep coming back you. You have to square 475 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: up and realize and tackle. If it's Camaro, push him 476 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: to something, don't give him two ways ago, Mike. I 477 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: don't know. If he's a good running out run out 478 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: of the catch guy. You can tell us about that. 479 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: He's a good run see, I don't you know. I 480 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: know a lot of balls. I know he catch a 481 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of balls, you know. And I know at the 482 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: end of the year you have a hundred catches for 483 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen hundred yards. I don't know where that 484 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: average is. I don't really care to know. But he's special. 485 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: He's kind of a speed guy with hands right, kind 486 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: of like a Hopkins type guy. He he is a 487 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: combination of of it all he does. He's not a burner. 488 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: He's athletic. He runs great routes, has exceptional hands, makes 489 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the difficult catches. He puts the pressure on your your 490 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: defensive backs every single time. And the route that that 491 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: that they's talking about is they run a lot of 492 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: those rap fours right it's it's a four round. They 493 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: just it's wrapped right in there and they just highlow you. 494 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: They want, what are you gonna do? Linebacker, You're gonna 495 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: step up because the back's right in front of you. Cool, 496 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm dumbing it right behind your head. Old linebacker, You're 497 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: gonna go back to where the four the rap four 498 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: is that, No problem. I'm gonna dub it right to 499 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: forty one and he'll have a two way go. So 500 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: now you have to come up. And since this is 501 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 1: what they want to do, is they want to use 502 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: that concept or it's it's what Jered Cook. They just 503 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: want to just highlow you. I want to put that 504 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: linebacker in that high low situation where he feels, oh 505 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: that that quarterback is ironing a guy behind me. I 506 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: dropped back, No problem, I'm gonna thought right to the 507 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: guy in front of you. He turned and you have 508 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: Albu Kamara in the open field. So that's all they 509 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: want to do, and they'll just they'll methodically work their 510 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: way down the field. Even when you look, even when 511 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: this offense has Drew Brees at the helm, they're not 512 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: really hitting you over the head. Drew Brees loft the seams. 513 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: It so why he always wants a good tight end. 514 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: He I want to control the seams. I want to 515 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: be able to have that tried to end control the 516 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: seams so that the coverage is lifted. Everything now is lifted, 517 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: it's moving back. The coverage is lifted. Once the coverage 518 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: beginning to get lifted, I can throw everything else. I 519 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: can Drew Brees. I can throw this. I can throw 520 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: the curl. I can throw the hook. I can throw 521 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: the stop route because you're lifted. And then when you 522 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: finally step up, Oh now I'll throw the through the 523 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: scene right behind that dude, the curl in the Michael, 524 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: you're a curl in there. And I'll say, you see 525 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: him straighten up. You see him curl in there, and 526 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: you see like Teddy Gain just detro off and all 527 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he just running down the field. He 528 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: ain't caught number maybe one pass before that, you see 529 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: Teddy with a sixty yard bomb. But in the back 530 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: of your mind, if you're Jeff Heath, if your Xavier 531 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: Wards you whoever, I promise you. Culture started telling them, hey, listen, 532 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: when Teddy gets in the When Teddy gets in the game, 533 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: he can't get behind you. So you look, you see, 534 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: and you go if you start back the back because 535 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: you you just it's one of those things where I 536 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna be in the first quarter, 537 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the third quarter, the second to fourth, but if you 538 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: fall asleep, that bomb go right over your head when 539 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: ted gets in the game. So you he makes you 540 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: honor that every single time out there because you know 541 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: this is what he does. Guys are making me worried. 542 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Here see the thing. How much still gonna win? They 543 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: got they got one dude, They got one dude. That's 544 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: and I bet they got one dude up in the press, 545 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: but called the sleeper dude. I was talking about the Saints. 546 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: They say they went to sleep to sleep coaching. I 547 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: just saw that Ted run behind him twice. They're sleeping coach. 548 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: Because I laughed, Man, when what have you known? Ted? Again? 549 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: When he was with the Panthers speak. Try guy, I'm 550 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: not even back in Ohio state. Screens Wow, screens, Yeah, 551 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: smoke routes, anything when you get the ball, let him 552 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: run and go routes and other teams are trying to 553 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: make him more than that, and he do not exhale. 554 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: They've tried to make him a route, right, They've tried 555 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: to ask him to do more in tend to be like, 556 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: I'll do this, but it ain't no glory and you 557 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: know wow. But here's the thing. We we we say 558 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: all these things. I am I forgot what I think. 559 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: I picked the Saints to win, and I pick the 560 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: Saints to win this one, I pick the win. I forget. 561 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm the only one to pick the Saints. Yeah, 562 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: but I tell to win. Yeah. I have to go 563 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: look the sheet up there. You're the only one to 564 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: pick the Cowboys. I think you only I'm pick the Cowboys. Okay, 565 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: I think everybody picked Saints. Now and again, all that 566 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: was before the right Drew Brees injury. Um, all this 567 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: stuff can be preventable if you do what you're supposed 568 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: to do. We and the thing about it, Jesse, we 569 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: had the athletes and that's why I've been saying this 570 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: for two years. Ain't nobody can cover them. I will 571 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: put them against in it all pro into the split 572 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: second that the ball gets stared. That's Cheetah Bay perfect position. Yeah, 573 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: all over a guy just right before the ball get that. 574 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, Jesse. And that's the one thing. 575 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: What what is it? I mean? Awareness? He'd be all 576 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: over a cat man if you look at it, if 577 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: if it was, if it was a matting rating, his 578 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: speed will be ninety nine, his covers will be ninety, 579 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: his flexibility will be ninety five. His awareness, he need 580 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: him some Tommy Johns curse Tommy John's aware of your balls? 581 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: And and and then Jones make me mad, so athletic 582 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: back down? So many balls can you catch? That? Don't 583 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: make you? Man? I think that's a mentality I do. 584 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: Like I just you played with Prim Like Prime wasn't 585 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: trying to bat nothing down, you know what I'm saying, 586 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: Like he wasn't. Early in my career I printed against 587 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: Ed Reid, and Reid wasn't trying to back down like 588 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: you're just some catches like I'm going I'm going to score, 589 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: and they want they want to score some catches like 590 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: I just want to do my job. If I bat 591 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: it down, PBu, my job is done. Some cats just 592 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: they got they have that offensive mindset built in them. 593 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: I just that's heard Lynch. I mean that's human Lattimore. 594 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: That's what hurt him with a big catch with right, Yeah, 595 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: that's what heard because you're going for the rock. So 596 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to play a situation. Some guys just have 597 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: it and some guys just you know, you you take 598 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: Byron because he's gonna do everything you want him to do, 599 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: do it right. He just may not get to pick 600 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: opposed to another guy like you know, keep to Leave 601 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: or Chris Harris or Jail. They're gonna gamble, but the 602 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: risk is worth the reward. Most of the time they 603 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: get to pick six. So some guys just don't have 604 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: it offensively, that offensive mindset to go get their interception. 605 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: See when you see a guy do this outter that 606 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys do that, you can't make me believe 607 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: that they thought there was gonna catch the ball. Lattimore, 608 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: even Josh Norman when they they be really hot, it 609 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: salves because they don't did it. You have to have 610 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: success and knowing how you know, a feeling of miss 611 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 1: of dropping the ball when you never caught the ball. 612 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm being honest. That makes sense. So even when you 613 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: catch them in them fake preseason games, you gotta have 614 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: some success doing this thing for real. It's like Heath, Heath, 615 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: Heath know what it is to catch the ball, you know, 616 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Heat, you know it is now and we and 617 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: we collectively for the last for years, like man, we 618 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: need a safe. Were mad because they don't get a safety. 619 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: But that's the problem. That is the problem. I personally 620 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: think you can coach turnovers, but you can't coach interceptions. 621 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: Like you said, you gotta have a nose for the ball. 622 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: You gotta be in the right place at the right time. 623 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: Do you think you can You believe what you see. 624 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: You got to believe what you see. Trust you, you know, 625 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: But instincts are what that's inside of you. You can't 626 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: coach that, Yeah, But can you coach turnovers like knocking 627 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: the ball out? The ball out? 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Download the app for access on 699 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: game days at Dallas Cowboys dot com slash app. I 700 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: think the questions for this week will be active tomorrow. 701 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: Really check it out, be active tomorrow. Man, I mean 702 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: was playing in the game Man against the Raiders and 703 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: uh fast dude, I can't think of his name. Man 704 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: fast dude ran past Prime. I was like, whoa, whoa 705 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: an some fat wouldn't hear my answer? Don't know who 706 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: it was. My brother and me and Priyan talked about 707 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: the price. It was a set up. Nate. He's that 708 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: dude was fat with he fat, everybody thought he was. 709 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: I mean, he man had world classroom in his name. 710 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: He said. When that ball hit the act all, it's 711 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: a different deal. When that ball hit the air and 712 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: the receiver was trying to adjust to a Prime was 713 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: already on it. Man, he ran past him and caught 714 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: it like he was going to stop, looked at the receiver, 715 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: ran back by him and receive what kind of look 716 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: like you were gonna go? And he really like, whoh oh, tryan, 717 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: I take that thing to the house. Man's just like 718 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: what he said. Prime didn't even think about it. He's 719 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: setting you up because he ain't doubt in his hands ability, 720 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: you know. And and and now I know this is 721 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer ring on up to not only 722 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: the cowboys, but everybody else. You know. Hearing a ring 723 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: of black on it, don't put you on as a 724 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: black mark, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just 725 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: saying I'm not putting them with these guys. But if 726 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: if a Woozier ever can click, is it ever getting 727 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: his head? You can't tell me a better coverage guy 728 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: than a Woozier. I mean it is widely known in 729 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. He gonna be all over you. Now. The 730 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: end result may just wait, yeah, I'm serious. Now he 731 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: may look at with it. Hey man, you're talking about 732 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: me and you're dogging me. No, No, I'm praying that boy. 733 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: One day he get one. He because if he ever 734 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: do grab one, it may change his life. Jesse was 735 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: talking about in the break, the ball for a defensive 736 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: guy comes at you different and you look at it different. 737 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: For a receiver at second nature, that's just what you. 738 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: I guess it's the equivalent of when a picture has 739 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: to bat. He's probably overthinking where where's my elbow, how 740 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: are my shoulders? Where my feet? Where's my stands? How 741 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: a hitter gets up there? He's just programmed. That's what 742 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: he that's all he practices. That's what he does. Yeah. 743 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: I got a chance to work with Barbara Jones two 744 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: off seasons ago and we just worked on catching. And 745 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: for him, it's a thought process to catch backpelling the 746 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: second nature, breaking his second nature. But when the ball 747 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: is in the air, now he's thinking, okay, do I 748 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: go hands over to I do the diamond like a 749 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: little kid, or how the ball's coming, Why it's coming 750 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: too fast for me as a receiver. I never thought 751 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: about catching. I'm okay, what is the coverage? What's that 752 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: guy doing? Is he pressing? Is all? And when the 753 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: ball was in the air, there was never a thought 754 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: in my mind how I was going to catch this ball. 755 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: I just did it. We see so many spectacular catches 756 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: that we see in them nowadays, they're not thinking that 757 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: is a second nature thing for receiver to just go 758 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: and catch the ball. And so when you when you 759 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: reverse it, Cheeto buying, all of those guys, their second 760 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: nature is to cover, is to to to break, to 761 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: back pedal, to flip their hips and run. But now 762 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: the balls in the air, that's when the okay, okay, 763 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: the balls coming in my hands are like this, I 764 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: should do this, I should do that. Oh snap the 765 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: balls on me, and now you you're in between hand 766 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: over hand under and you drop it. How how it 767 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: looks so easy on TV? And the guys look like 768 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: they don't look as fast on TV, and it doesn't 769 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: look like they hit that hard it looks, But when 770 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: you're there on the field, especially on game day, that's 771 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: another that's a different level. How hard does that? How 772 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: fast is that ball coming at you? I mean, is 773 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: it what someone that's not used to, like your weekend 774 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: athlete that goes and plays flag football, could he go 775 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: out there and catch up ten yard out from from 776 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: that or no? No? Consistently yeah, like no, no, Mike 777 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: Snag what if he threw ten of them and he 778 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: had to run a legit ten yard out and that 779 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: through ten of them. Two really, yeah, let me put 780 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: the symbols just right. If he don't break his fingers, 781 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: bust the webon of his he may catch too. And 782 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: that's called quarterback. And I took someone, Yeah, because going 783 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: out they're just catching the ball from Troy. It's gonna 784 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: be difficult, No, But in a game with Deek, with 785 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: Derek Green coming back from gonna be a whole lot 786 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: of the whole difference speed. And then you take somebody 787 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: like a Brett Farve or a damn Marino that hadn't 788 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: even don't mention it, Yeah, don't. So it's that difficult. Huh. Yeah, man, 789 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: I want brother one day, Kurt the jugs machine set up. 790 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man. And this is when 791 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: I really understood it. That's how Stuart Scott mess his 792 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: eye up on the judgment. Schine Mica Irvan baby brother 793 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: came out there. He was at the University of North 794 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 1: takes the game of scholarship, and Mike thought it would 795 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: be a great idea and say, hey, well, come catch 796 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: the balls from Troy and it'll be easier for man 797 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: by eight balls they just do in the face. And 798 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: he was a college athlete. Literally, this is absolutely I'm 799 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: glad you said that. My rookie season, I'm with Carson Palmer. 800 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: I'm running in the out route. Now. In college they 801 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: throw the ball when you're open. In the league, they 802 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: throw you open, right. So in college the ball didn't 803 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: come till I was out of my break looking back 804 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: at him. He looking at me, Oh, yeah, you opened, 805 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: Now I throw it. And the league it was different. 806 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: So I come running this out route and didn't get 807 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: my head around, and next thing you know, by the 808 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: time I got my head around, football hit me in 809 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: the side of the head, and Carson looked around said 810 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: what the hell are we doing? I was like, and 811 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: my coach laid into me. You gotta get your boot 812 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: roof boo head around that rudy boot. I was like, 813 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,479 Speaker 1: didn't happen again? Did it? Never? If I'll do nothing else, 814 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm about having to be around all right, quick question. 815 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: The sound is gonna be crazy, crazy, crazy Sunday night. 816 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: For him, it don't count as much. For me. It's 817 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: the world between a between getting off and having a 818 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,720 Speaker 1: chance to block a guy I'm missing and getting your quarterback? 819 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: Are you running back killed? That's how? That's how? Is 820 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: that because it is snap counter? Is that because you 821 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: can't hear your teammate next year you cannot hear? Are 822 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: you just going off the snap of the snap? Count? 823 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: Holding hands? Are you know a center, I mean a 824 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: guard touching the center after he's given some type of 825 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: signal you cannot hear. So we we tried it all, 826 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: holding hands, We tried the you know, the center bart 827 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: something you'll look twins leg quarterback living the hill, sale 828 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: cadence and they will go one thousand and one, one 829 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: thousand too. We practiced that the whole week, one thousand 830 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 1: and one thousand. Yeah, and then we held hands, and 831 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: then we even we even tried with the guard. You know, 832 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, we tried it all. You know, and h 833 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans will make you. I'm telling you their defense 834 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: can be ranked twenty fifth in the league going the 835 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: dome and your thing is a first ranked defense because 836 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: they got all advantage. They're moving on the same ball 837 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: you moving on. And if you got bad feet, if 838 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: you got bad feet, if you got bad feet and 839 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 1: not comfortable and what you're doing rankers. I don't want 840 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: you to play this week? How does that change for 841 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: you guys on the outside? See, for me, it doesn't 842 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: matter in the sense of the snap count. I can't 843 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: hear it anyway. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm two yards outside 844 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: the hash, I'm twenty yards away from them. I can't. 845 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: So does it affect receivers at all and any other application? 846 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: That part pre snap pre snap stuff, right, So we 847 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: have to I have to make sure that Dak and 848 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: I but they have to make sure that Dak they 849 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 1: see the same thing, because he'll be point, you'll be point. 850 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: You won't hear him, you'll see him. Hey, you know 851 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: you're you're saying, okay, he's he's the idea, the mica 852 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: is he's telling me the safe he's coming down. So 853 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: that part as well. Can you hear him in most 854 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: games or is it when it's game day? You can't 855 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: really hear not Some places you can, Like there's some 856 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: statements where it's tough. New Orleans is probably the it's 857 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: the toughest indoor. Kansas City, Seattle probably the toughest outdoor. Um, 858 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: but but inside you're gonna see a lot of And 859 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: then I have to be on the same page where 860 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: our our our hands signals on point. Even when you're 861 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 1: getting in the huddle when he has to call the 862 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: play out, it's tough to hear in the huddle. Yeah, 863 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: So a lot of times you'll see guys come and 864 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: they will be kind of you know, halfway in, and 865 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: then they'll start hearing the play in the run off. 866 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: Can't do that now because you might you might have 867 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: missed the support the motion, you might have missed the 868 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: last part of it. So you got to stay in there. 869 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: He has to be loud and screaming it. Then if 870 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: he's doing if he's doing any audibles, that's the next thing. 871 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: But it's something about that that you're You're like, man, 872 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 1: I can't hear anything, and it makes you a step slow, 873 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I just can't hear 874 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: what what? What? So communication has to be key because 875 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: that that noise can get it can get rattling. So 876 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: the best place to score is in the middle of 877 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: the field, as you in the middle of the field. 878 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: But man, when we used to get it's like they 879 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: get even more amp and you can see them now 880 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: you can visually seemly and screaming, you fat slabbing be like, 881 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: that's all right? What was the loudest place you ever played? Date? 882 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: Indoors is what he's saying. New Orleans outdoors can sit 883 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: in and Seattle cans a city I had never I 884 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: couldn't have believed the way they an outdoor stadium that 885 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: from when they're good, from when the Jets gold and 886 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: they see at Home of the Braves, it does not stop. Yeah, 887 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: it does not. You kind of you you kind of 888 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: get it in Seattle because it's half domed. Yeah, and 889 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: it's but Kansas City wide open and it's still as 890 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: loud as they're out in the woods what it used 891 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: to be. I don't know what now. I don't know 892 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: now they're still out of that, but they're out in 893 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: the woods. Man. And if you if you look hards 894 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,439 Speaker 1: but not because you see the wolves looking at the game, Kurt, 895 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: you're from Kansas City. Did you ever go to the 896 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: Chiefs games? Yeah? I went to Furious. I bet you 897 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: heard them too. You went bad man, that stadium, I 898 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: tell you where else? What else is a pretty loud stadium? Now? 899 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: That New Minnesota stadium. That a joke when they're playing 900 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: good before they moved, now play in that stadium, did you, Yeah, 901 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: don't they? They they got to inject something in there. 902 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: Seems like there's a rumor that they that they play 903 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: a little noise on their own, but yeah, but it's 904 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: it's it's like a mini at and T stadium and 905 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 1: it gets rocket. They didn't have to do that before then, 906 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: before they moved, they used to crack that thing up 907 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: to do it on a HARDI Davis And that's one 908 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: of the best intros in all of football. The the 909 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: what's the name of the song to led Zeppelin song? 910 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: Um immigrant song. Yeah, they start playing that and that 911 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: dude comes out on that motorcycle and whoa man, you 912 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: couldn't Oh my god, with the face paint. Oh man, 913 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: John around I mean he moving around talking. I mean 914 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,959 Speaker 1: just non stop chatting, non stop chatting nuns. He ain't 915 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: cut none about the run. All he wanted to do 916 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 1: was tacking quarter back. So every pass play, every every 917 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 1: run play, everybody, oh man, what to slow you behind? 918 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: But once I got him in the fourth quarter, then 919 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm moving around because we got you, doll. Drag him 920 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: in a deep water. All right, fellas, let's get out 921 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: of here. Kurt, good seeing you man, Thanks for coming. Jesse, 922 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: thanks for bringing Tomorrow. We gonna have some donuts. Is 923 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: National Coffee Day on Sunday, so we gonna get some 924 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: coffee and some donuts. Awesome. Thanks for bringing it. Nate Kyle, 925 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: thanks for pushing all the buttons. William, thanks for getting 926 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:24,399 Speaker 1: us on. Eric Kaden, thanks for maintaining Tomorrow phone calls. Yeah, yeah, 927 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 1: we started twelve thirty. Mama gross to be on. We'll 928 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: take some phone calls and we'll give out for tell 929 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: us what all Jess and I said again, all right 930 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 1: on any with the boys. This has been a production 931 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football 932 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: Calls