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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as I am for every episode by

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Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, my capadre professional better joining me

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Speaker 1: on the Favorites, presented by bet three six five Simon Hunter. Hello, soymen,

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Speaker 1: shout out.

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Speaker 2: Another sports weekend, another weekend of drama. I got to

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Speaker 2: hear your take on this whole Sham's fandul thing. How

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Speaker 2: do you view these insiders working for sportsbooks nowadays? Is

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Speaker 2: it something you agree with or is it like I

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Speaker 2: don't know about this walking of fine line here handed

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Speaker 2: on information moving numbers and it is.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of a lot of people asking us

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Speaker 3: how we view this. I would love to hear your

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Speaker 3: view on it.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question. You know, it's interesting and maybe

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Speaker 1: I was either blind to it, a nerve to it,

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Speaker 1: wasn't paying enough attention. But it didn't even occur to me, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Like didn't even think about it. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: don't think there was anything nefarious going on. I don't

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Speaker 1: see Shams as a guy who is in the betting community.

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Speaker 1: I see Shams as a guy who is a newsbreaker

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Speaker 1: who was connected, and there is a sort of strange

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Speaker 1: combination of worlds that are still coming together and people

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Speaker 1: are still trying to figure out where the lines are

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Speaker 1: being drawn when it comes to operators who want to

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Speaker 1: acquire customers and also want to be media businesses, media

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Speaker 1: personalities who want to cash in on betting and go

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Speaker 1: where they can make a big ticket and do what

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Speaker 1: they do and using their platforms. Shams has a big

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Speaker 1: Twitter platform to do what they do. I think this

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Speaker 1: was one of the first instances where we saw in

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Speaker 1: real time what is dangerous about it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone was doing anything to move numbers or to benefit

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Speaker 1: an operator, but I'm glad. I'm glad hralabab vulgaris Bib

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Speaker 1: Valgaris he's the one who brought her up on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and that Dar Ravel did a story about it for

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Speaker 1: us on On Action. But fascinating, fascinating sort of mini

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Speaker 1: narrative going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was definitely one of those days

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Speaker 2: where Woje came out looking really good. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: always the battle between those guys and the NBA insiders, but man,

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Speaker 2: that was one of those where I mean WOJ He's

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Speaker 2: not working for any books, right, he still works for

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Speaker 2: the company not named.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, to me, we can name ESPN.

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Speaker 3: We love you.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're mentioning FanDuel on a podcast presented by

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Speaker 1: BET three sixty five. You can't mention ESPN.

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Speaker 3: I never I never mentioned them by name, you did.

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Speaker 3: I'm a professional here.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot I love. I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of friends at ESPN, and still I think they're great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it was one of those where I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely nervous about it in the sense that if Adam

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Speaker 2: Schefter takes a contract with a book, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: lie to each other. It's gonna tend some of his

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Speaker 2: information to me, like it's gonna make some of that

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Speaker 2: info I'm not gonna trust as much, especially in the

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Speaker 2: sense that I don't know if you remember this, but

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Speaker 2: we had a whole deal where we didn't know who

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Speaker 2: was gonna be playing during all COVID. I thought, really

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Speaker 2: luckyly with Schefter was just honest about her right, he

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Speaker 2: was like, this quarterback didn't pass this protocol, he won't

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Speaker 2: be playing if he worked for sports Piker. I probably

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Speaker 2: what hesitate, so it's It's definitely of those things I'm

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Speaker 2: always gonna keep in the back of my mind. Now

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Speaker 2: with Shams is like, yeah, I think he's legit his

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Speaker 2: NBA insider. I don't think he's going to really try

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Speaker 2: to move numbers, move lines, but he did. I mean

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars removed. We saw that number, Flipp I

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Speaker 2: think it was plus three hundred right for Scoot to

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Speaker 2: to influence these guys who, like you just said, the

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Speaker 2: dude doesn't even bet like the student's that I'm embedding,

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Speaker 2: and he's moving millions and millions of dollars. So it's

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Speaker 2: just we're just in a wild time right now, these

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Speaker 2: insiders picking up all this money from all these different sportsbooks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Look, WOJ and Schefty Adam Schefter both

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Speaker 1: went through this and this is not inside information. They

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Speaker 1: went through contract renewals last twelve months or so, maybe

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Speaker 1: twelve to eighteen months, and there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: conversation where either of them going to get big, mega

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Speaker 1: deals from operators. Ultimately they didn't. They stayed at ESPN.

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Speaker 3: And Mickey Mouse money, and well.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think also for their benefit. They realized at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, the value of breaking news

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Speaker 1: for ESPN is greater than the value of breaking news

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Speaker 1: for a DraftKings or a FanDuel or any other operator

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Speaker 1: media strategy at the time. Sham's different category, different ideas.

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Speaker 1: I think this was one of the first instances that

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Speaker 1: it was fascinating. You're right, won't be the last time

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Speaker 1: joining us today. We're going through the ten biggest fantasy

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Speaker 1: moves of the off season. Ray Bon, see you typing

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Speaker 1: away in our little script here. But but remind me

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Speaker 1: what were you? Were you like number two, number one

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Speaker 1: in Fantasy Pros projections? What did you finish?

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Speaker 4: I was number two?

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Pat Thorman who finished number one and

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Speaker 5: I believe Curner was number five.

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Speaker 4: Soder snuck in there. Yeah, TOLF five.

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Speaker 5: We've been talking about that. That was our goal ever

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Speaker 5: think Sean, you got in it like on like week

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Speaker 6: Oh, I had to go on in absolutely yet there

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Speaker 4: Where you're gonna catch me.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember Cerner, what got what? What slipped you

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Speaker 7: I don't remember so long ago I had I finished

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Speaker 7: first place in week sixteen.

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Speaker 6: I think it was I.

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Speaker 7: Just made a lot of bold calls and they all hit,

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Speaker 7: So I jumped from like tenth to fifth that week.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like I should get some kind

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Speaker 1: of credit for recognizing the talent in both of you

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Speaker 1: and hiring you at the same time, knowing that we

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Speaker 1: could build a Fantasy Projection powerhouse.

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Speaker 4: You are getting credit. We're hearing your podcast?

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Speaker 7: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Is that really a nice You were doing two more podcasts?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, check out out Marathon AFC and.

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Speaker 5: NFC West episodes. We got all the other divisions out

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Speaker 5: already working hard.

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Speaker 1: Man, I mean Fantasy Flax. Everyone should listen to it clearly,

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Speaker 1: you guys are top five projectionists according to Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 1: and that's an independent, verified outlet. That's not some you know,

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Speaker 1: someone we're paying to get it done. Congrats to you,

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Speaker 1: Congrats to me, Congrats to Simon just by being here. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so many freaking moves the other day. Who was it

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Speaker 1: the other day that came out and said, I think

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Speaker 1: it was Melvin Gordon. Being a running back in the

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Speaker 1: NFL totally sucks. Is the worst position to play in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Yet Jon Robinson drafted top ten by the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: And yet then again, Dalvin Cook, who when he's playing,

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Speaker 1: is a miracle of a player. Cut from the Vikings

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Speaker 1: frees up nine million in cap space for the Vikings

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Speaker 1: Ray Bond. Going through our little lineup here, you feel

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Speaker 1: like this is one of the biggest moves for fantasy

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Speaker 5: Why well, when we're talking about biggest moves, I wanted

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Speaker 5: to start here because I think there's still value to

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Speaker 5: be had with Alexander Madison, who is Dalvin Cook's replacement.

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Speaker 5: Relative to his average draft position, He's still going off

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Speaker 5: the board as the twenty sixth running back, and I

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Speaker 4: Definitely inching toward that top fifteen.

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Speaker 5: In six starts over the last three seasons, he's averaged

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Speaker 5: twenty three touches, one hundred and twelve yards from scrimmage

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Speaker 5: per game, five touchdowns in those six games. Madison's still

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Speaker 5: only twenty five years old, under five hundred career touches,

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Speaker 5: he can, you know, they can kind of run him

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Speaker 5: I think it was two years with about six mil guaranteed.

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Speaker 5: But you look at what Cook did last year in

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Speaker 5: the first year under Kevin O'Connell, three hundred three touches,

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Speaker 5: just under fifteen hundred yards from scrimmage and ten touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: so that's eighteen about eighteen touches per game. I think

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Speaker 5: Madison will be in that neighborhood. There's not a ton

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Speaker 4: So this should be Madison. Madison's job.

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Speaker 5: think one other thing to mention here. We love Madison,

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Speaker 5: but also keep an eye on where Dalvin Cook may

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Speaker 5: terms of the odds to land Dalvin Cook, Javonte Williams

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Speaker 5: be careful with those guys. Breis Hall for the Jets

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Speaker 5: the Jets are the third most likely team to land

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Speaker 5: Cook according to the odds. So there's a few kind

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Speaker 5: of domino effects that could happen with this move. But

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Speaker 5: the big winner here Alexander Madison should definitely be a

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Speaker 5: top twenty running back, still going outside the top twenty.

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Speaker 1: Alexander Madison.

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Speaker 5: Hamilton reference, I see you, you see hear you, hear me, cruder,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you didn't finish top three like Raybond, but

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Speaker 5: you must have an opinion either for against Alexander Madison.

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Speaker 7: top twenty back. Like Raybond said, he doesn't have much competition,

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Speaker 7: so he should be a workhorse back this season. But

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Speaker 7: it was over a month ago when we started recording

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Speaker 7: Fancy flexes for this year, he was going outside the

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Speaker 7: and then this news happens, and now recent drafts he's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's some shaky backs going in like that,

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Speaker 1: Well, Simon, you watch a lot of these guys on film.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not there yet, especially the way that his

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Speaker 3: Dalvin he is Nixon.

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Speaker 2: You know, he gets a little hits here and there,

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Speaker 2: to Miami, Chad, that is truly a dream scenario. Especially

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Speaker 2: if you're a Miami backer like you are, Chad. You

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Speaker 2: big deal. I honestly could see that moving their futures

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe plus fifty, maybe plus twenty five, just

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Speaker 1: Bear's got a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't want.

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Speaker 6: Him, but let's running backs too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's keep going on the running back Sean, what

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Speaker 7: I thought this is a great landing spot for him.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's probably the best running back prospect we've

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Speaker 7: expect him to get over twenty plus touches a game,

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Speaker 6: But he should hit the ground running right away. He could.

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Speaker 7: So I think, like you said, it's probably a dumb

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Speaker 5: I disagree. I don't think it's a dumb move at all.

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Speaker 5: I think the Falcons got the best player in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Uh. And this is what they're this is what they do.

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Speaker 5: the Falcons. I think they're the best team in this

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Think it was dumb.

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Speaker 1: Just unconventional by thinking it's not. Raybund just called Kroner

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Speaker 6: To me.

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Speaker 5: He went eighth to the Falcons because teams are worried

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Speaker 6: All right, take back the dumb part.

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Speaker 7: But when I was following in the draft, Jalen Carter

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Speaker 3: Sean, don't pull back it was dumb. Would you rather

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Speaker 7: At the time, I think Jalen Cark Carter would have

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Speaker 3: That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with Raybound here forget about sort of

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Speaker 2: It's true, but we talked about all the time. The

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm with Chris.

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Speaker 2: Their talent on office is unbelievable unless the quarterback can

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Speaker 4: For Atlanta already already got my Falcons future in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the same boat. I know they're gonna

439
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Speaker 2: be aggressive. I like Atlanta too, and like.

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Speaker 4: Before we move on and then we but my thing about.

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Speaker 5: Bijeon is that it wasn't like it Lena gave up

442
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Speaker 5: selecting a quarterback to take Bijon, Like there was no

443
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Speaker 5: quarterback you were really gonna feel good about taking right there.

444
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Speaker 5: So it's like they're gonna have to go find a

445
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Speaker 5: quarterback next year at some other point, like you know

446
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Speaker 5: what I mean.

447
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Speaker 4: Like it's not like they passed on Bryce Young or

448
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Speaker 4: something like that.

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Speaker 1: Right right, It's interesting we're talking a little bit out

450
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Speaker 1: of both sides of our mouth here right because we've

451
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Speaker 1: got Bijeon going to the top ten. We're talking about

452
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Speaker 1: how great Tyler Lgiers is, Dalvin Cook getting a little

453
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Speaker 1: bit a wear and tearing his tires, getting cut for

454
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Speaker 1: cap reasons after a great year, Alexander Madison replaceable running

455
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Speaker 1: back in an offense that is salary cap strapped. Meanwhile,

456
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Speaker 1: and anomaly in the draft is Jamier Gibbs from Alabama

457
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Speaker 1: also going in the top fifteen, And like all of

458
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Speaker 1: a sudden, we're seeing draft capital being spent, and not

459
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Speaker 1: only that, like Detroit taking the guy as a surprise

460
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Speaker 1: and signing David Montgomery from the Bears, basically changing over

461
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Speaker 1: their entire running back corps on the fly in one season. Raybon,

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the Jamior Gibbs David Montgomery combination.

463
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Speaker 4: And so Detroit.

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Speaker 5: You know, in terms of Gibbs, Detroit is kind of

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Speaker 5: they've been making a lot of picks where it looks

466
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Speaker 5: like a reach, but then they'll make like a pick

467
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Speaker 5: the next round and get a value and it so

468
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Speaker 5: it kind of all evens out. I don't love the

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Speaker 5: Gibbs pick as much as I love the Robinson for Atlanta,

470
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Speaker 5: but I do think I love this Detroit offense. I

471
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Speaker 5: think this Detroit offense can be a top five offense.

472
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Speaker 5: And they're trying to add speed and that's why they

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Speaker 5: have Gibbs, who ran a fourth three six forty, and

474
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Speaker 5: you know they're trying to do that last year too.

475
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Speaker 5: And now James Williams gonna miss six games, so you

476
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Speaker 5: know that gives addition is important.

477
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Speaker 4: That's going to really give him some juice. He's going

478
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Speaker 4: RB fifteen.

479
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Speaker 5: I don't think there's a ton of value with him,

480
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Speaker 5: but I should point out that DeAndre Swift was sixteenth

481
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Speaker 5: in PPR points per game among running backs and twenty

482
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Speaker 5: second in half PPR, so he was a top twenty

483
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Speaker 5: four back in all formats and he only averaged forty

484
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Speaker 5: two percent of the snaps. Jamia Gibbs was taken with

485
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Speaker 5: a twelfth overall pick. He's going to get more than

486
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Speaker 5: forty two percent of the snaps, So you know, it's

487
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Speaker 5: not it looks a little high, but he'll probably land

488
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Speaker 5: somewhere in at fifteen to twenty twenty five range when

489
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Speaker 5: it's all said and done.

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Speaker 4: He's going a little bit high.

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Speaker 5: But I think Montgomery is interesting because he should get

492
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Speaker 5: that Jamal Williams rope from last year. That's about fifteen

493
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Speaker 5: carries a game. You know, maybe one to two targets,

494
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Speaker 5: just one for Williams. But my Garmy's a little bit

495
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Speaker 5: of a pass catcher. But the key for fantasy. Jamal

496
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Speaker 5: william had an NFL high forty five carries inside the

497
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Speaker 5: ten yard line last year. That was sixteen more than

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Speaker 5: the next highest player on that list. Williams had twenty

499
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Speaker 5: eight carries inside the five. The second most got inside

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Speaker 5: the ten was twenty nine. So like this could be

501
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Speaker 5: Montgomery this year and they signed him to a three

502
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Speaker 5: year deal. They obviously wanted him. They could have just

503
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Speaker 5: you know, brought back Williams probably for cheaper too.

504
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Speaker 4: So I think.

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Speaker 5: Montgomery at RB thirty is very intriguing because you know,

506
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Speaker 5: Gibbs is gonna play in the slot, some he's gonna

507
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Speaker 5: move around. They're still gonna need a back to take

508
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Speaker 5: you know, probably thirteen to seventeen carries a game. I

509
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Speaker 5: think this team is going to be, you know, a

510
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Speaker 5: nine to ten win team. The division isn't that strong,

511
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Speaker 5: so the game script should be there. So Montgomery to me,

512
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Speaker 5: is the value. But Gibbs is an exciting own a

513
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Speaker 5: little better in bast ball, I think. But Montgomery RB

514
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Speaker 5: thirty I'm buying.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell is telling us we have to pick up

516
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Speaker 1: the pace because we have ten topics to get to.

517
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Speaker 1: I love each one of these so much that we

518
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Speaker 1: could talk about each one for a podcast. What I

519
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Speaker 1: will say, what I will say before we get to

520
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Speaker 1: the next running back is as much as we love

521
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Speaker 1: the Lions last year, Simon, are you with me and

522
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Speaker 1: that they might be an auto fade early in the year,

523
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Speaker 1: just in the.

524
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Speaker 2: Sense that they're the most loved team right in that

525
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Speaker 2: division by far, Like that's just everyone's been betting them.

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Speaker 2: I think you've talked to a lot of book makers,

527
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Speaker 2: you know the deal chatter where they say, yeah, we

528
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Speaker 2: about eighty percent of the money right now is pouring

529
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Speaker 2: on Detroit to win this division. It's just they're the

530
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Speaker 2: public darling where I think Chris has nailed it though,

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Speaker 2: Like offensively, they are really talented. They have a lot

532
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Speaker 2: of weapons on that offense, and we assume they're defenseill

533
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Speaker 2: be better. Last year, right their second year I think

534
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Speaker 2: was ruining thirty second and then the mid point of

535
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Speaker 2: the year they fired them and we saw they made

536
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Speaker 2: a run.

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Speaker 3: They almost made the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So it kind of makes sense that the public is

539
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Speaker 2: so inaborated with this Detroit team just in the fact

540
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Speaker 2: they are so talented across the board.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I love about the NFL last year. Jamal

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Speaker 1: Williams record setting year as a running back. Anytime you're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Lions who are playing their heart out

544
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Speaker 1: and every game is a gutsy win or a close loss,

545
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Speaker 1: and everyone is like, Jamal Williams is our spirit man.

546
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Speaker 1: He is the heart of our team. We love Jamal Williams.

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Speaker 1: Cut too, eh, we can let him go.

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Speaker 3: That's football. That is definitional football.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you guys have heard us talk about game time

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552
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Speaker 1: price geh wrong Teed Simon. I know you want to

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Speaker 1: ask Sean about your favorite former Philadelphia Eagle.

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked at Mets tickets are at one dollar chat.

571
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Speaker 2: They are tarrible.

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00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: I know, it's really become a folly like that the

573
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Speaker 1: other night that no Metslander.

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Speaker 4: He's no mets Lander. Damn it.

575
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ray bounds out on the West Coast.

576
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Speaker 1: He's forgotten. How terrible to followed Mets when you're in I.

577
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: Ever got and they haven't want to wear a serious

578
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Speaker 5: since I was in my mother's room.

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Speaker 2: Sean, Let's talk about another team in the NFC South. Here,

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Speaker 2: we got our guy, Miles Sanders down in Carolina. My

581
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Speaker 2: may got paid. He is the apparent number one three

582
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Speaker 2: down back. That's what they're talking about. Which review on

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders, a guy who have we ever seen him

584
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Speaker 2: hold up in a full season after getting a ton

585
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Speaker 2: of carrier? So I'm interested hear your take on what

586
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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders is projected going into the season.

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Speaker 1: And can you do it in a Southern accent like

588
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: Simon just tried to do it?

589
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Speaker 6: Impossible. I don't have that in me. But yeah, you know,

590
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Speaker 6: he's leaving one of the.

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Speaker 7: Best offenses in the NFL to go to the Panthers,

592
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Speaker 7: So you know, on the surface that might look like

593
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Speaker 7: a downgrade, but you know he's going to be operating

594
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Speaker 7: as the workhorse back here, including a pass catcher. It's

595
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Speaker 7: not like he can't catch passes. He does have that

596
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Speaker 7: skill set. You know that Eagles like to rotate backs in.

597
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 7: Jalen Hurst doesn't like to dump off that much. He

598
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Speaker 7: tends to scramble, so this is a where he could

599
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Speaker 7: you know, catch more than forty passes this year. Plus

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Speaker 7: Jalen Hurts, you know, he had forty five percent of

601
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Speaker 7: the Eagles rush attempts inside the five, so you know,

602
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Speaker 7: Sanders helped push Jalen Hurts into the end zone. But

603
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Speaker 7: maybe in Carolina he gets to run with the ball

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Speaker 7: into the end zone, so his touchdown upside could be

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Speaker 7: a bit higher here. So there's a chance he could

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Speaker 7: finish as a high end RB two in this offense

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Speaker 7: as the lead back. So I think he's kind of

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Speaker 7: sneaky in this RB twenty range, Like Ray Bond said,

609
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Speaker 7: a lot of backs in that range are kind of iffy,

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Speaker 7: And certainly there are some question marks with Sanders going

611
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Speaker 7: to the Panthers, the offensive lines a little bit worse,

612
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Speaker 7: but it's not bad.

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Speaker 6: So I think that you can get him, you know,

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Speaker 6: at a.

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Speaker 7: Deal right now in the RB twenty range. Plus, this

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Speaker 7: move also opens up the door for backs like Rashad

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Speaker 7: Penny or DeAndre Swift to step up in Philadelphia. So

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Speaker 7: this is one of the biggest moves in the offseason

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Speaker 7: I think for Fancy.

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Speaker 1: Well, you just mentioned DeAndre Swift. Not that I want

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Speaker 1: to short change anything, ray but I might have to

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Speaker 1: say about Miles Sanders. But we're going through a sort

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Speaker 1: of you know, ven diagram here. DeAndre Swift leaves the Lions,

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Speaker 1: Miles Sanders leaves the Panthers. Now DeAndre Swift he is

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Speaker 1: in Philly. Give me your take right now on his

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Speaker 1: value as a running back, Chris Raybon.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I you know, Swift has fall into about

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Speaker 5: the RB twenty five range, and I think he does

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Speaker 5: have some upside there because again, he was, you know,

630
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Speaker 5: a top twenty two running back in all formats, and

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Speaker 5: he only played forty two percent of the snaps last year.

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Speaker 5: And there's not many places you can go offensively where

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Speaker 5: you're running back. It's a better situation than Detroit. Now, obviously,

634
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: you know they didn't want to play him because Deucey

635
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Speaker 5: had beef with Duce Staley, who's now with Sanders in Carolina.

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Speaker 5: By the way, So I do love Sanders the group

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Speaker 5: with Sean there, but I actually think Swift as he

638
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: kind of trickles down on the board a little bit,

639
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Speaker 5: does have some upside here because he can be highly

640
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Speaker 5: efficient in this egle offense.

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Speaker 4: Boston, Scott and Kenneth Gainwell combined.

642
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Speaker 5: For forty five percent of the snaps last year, so

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Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of snaps to be had.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of goal line carries to be had.

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Speaker 5: Even with Hurtz, you know, taking a lot of those carries.

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Speaker 5: Miles Sanders was still forced in the NFL with twenty

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Speaker 5: six carries inside the ten yardland.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Think Swift and Rashad Penny, who's going as the fortieth

650
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Speaker 5: running back off the board, both have some upside here.

651
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Speaker 5: And the thing about Penny is you're just worried about

652
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Speaker 5: him staying healthy. He's only played about half of his

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Speaker 5: career games. But that actually gives Swift a little more

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Speaker 5: upside because you got to figure there will be some

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Speaker 5: games that Penny's gonna miss it and Swift is going

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Speaker 5: to be a little bit more of a workhorse and

657
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: then but I would still take a swing on Penny

658
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 5: in redraft leagues as well, because, as remember Detroit traded

659
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 5: Swift during the draft, the Eagles had already acquired Rashad

660
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 5: Penny presumer leader replace Miles Sanders. So I think he's

661
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: gonna get a good deal of work as well. He's

662
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: going from a bottom three offensive line in Seattle to

663
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: a top six offensive line in Philly. So as long

664
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 5: as you're not playing in a best ball league where

665
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 5: you know, those miss games tend to hurt you, like

666
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 5: if you're in a redraft league where if Penny gets hurt,

667
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: you could just venture him.

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: I think he's worth a swing too.

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00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 5: At RB forty, I love the value there, and then

670
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 5: Swift now at RB twenty five is pretty decent as well.

671
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: But Penny is very intriguing, you know, kind of in

672
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: somewhat of the Sanders role.

673
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: But I think it's gonna be like.

674
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: A probably a forty, like a fifty five forty split

675
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: between those two. Maybe you know, Boston Scott or Gainwell

676
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: gets you know, five to ten percent of snaps, but

677
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: a lot of fantasy goodness to go around in Philly.

678
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: So like both these guys landing here in phillip for.

679
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Speaker 3: You chat, have it go ahead.

680
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Howie Roseman does it again though he

681
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: gets four running backs for the same price on Miles

682
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: Sanders getting paid Carolina.

683
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: It's just it really is Chest and Checkers, Chad, it

684
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: really is Dimond.

685
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: That's why this upcoming season will have the Howie Roseman

686
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Pick of the Week because it's the obvious genius play

687
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: that everyone else is trying to outsmart themselves and avoid.

688
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: But as an Eagles fan, I think the combination and

689
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: for you, simon of Swift and Penny is so interesting

690
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: because both of them, if they were ever fully healthy,

691
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: would be potentially dominant running backs, and you never see

692
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: them playing full seasons. But their combination, their speed, especially

693
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: for Swift and Penny, makes them really really interesting assets.

694
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: You just never know how much you're going to get

695
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: from each of them for a full season. So as

696
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, do you all of a sudden think, Wow,

697
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: the Eagles actually are going to be in a better

698
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: spot than I thought they would be when the season

699
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: was ending.

700
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that, but I've been drafting

701
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: these running backs. I've been going Swift. I actually been

702
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: going gang Well, Kenneth Gangwell over Penny. Just in the

703
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: fact that again, I get where people are kind of

704
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: down in Kenneth Gangwell. I really think the team took

705
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: a lot, not just a lot of belief in him,

706
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: but a big step up in the sense that he

707
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: got a lot of touches in the playoffs, Like he

708
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: ran incredibly well against that Giants defense and the forty

709
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: nine Ers defense. Like if you go back and watch

710
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: the tape, he played really well. It just seemed like

711
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: he was always the second guy to Miles Sanders. So

712
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: I still think this team's gonna give Kenneth Gagwell first

713
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: kind of chance. And look, just because he's been in

714
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: this offense. So that's the kind of guy that's being

715
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: left for dead, right you can get him, man, I

716
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: think I got him to like the freaking eighteenth round

717
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: in one of these best ball drafts. So it's kind

718
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: of a guy he's left for dead. Where you just

719
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: talked about Swift rarely Stairs healthy, and same with Penny,

720
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: you may be able to get a really nice deal

721
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: here getting one of these late running backs. But let's

722
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: switch to wide receivers, Chad. I know you want to

723
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: talk about this guy to my man, showing.

724
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: It's the most important topic of the show.

725
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: Sean, what are low look on our favorite receiver?

726
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: Me and Chad had been talking NonStop about this move

727
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: Dj Moore to the Bears.

728
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: We always say Chad.

729
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: The quarterback if they want to take the next step.

730
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: Josh Allen wants to take a next step. Jalen Hurts

731
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: wanted to take a next step.

732
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: What do you need?

733
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: You need the number one receiver, and we all believe

734
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: the Bears have one. We think DJ Moore easily is

735
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: a top five receiver. Is he going to be that

736
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: this upcoming season for you with? I mean Justin Field's

737
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: throwing this deep balls to him.

738
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 7: Right, So I think this move has less of an

739
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 7: impact on More specifically, as I don't think he gets

740
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 7: much of a boost going to the Bears. You know,

741
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 7: the Bears are run heavy team. Justin Fields scrambles a lot.

742
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 7: He takes a lot of sacks, so those are you know,

743
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 7: lost pass attempts that More could be seeing. So I

744
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 7: don't know if it's a boost for More, but it's

745
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 7: certainly a boost for Justin Fields. You know, a weapon

746
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 7: like Dj Moore can really unlock his upside and Fields

747
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 7: was the QB five in points per game in Fantasy

748
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 7: last year that was despite having one of the worst

749
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 7: supporting casts in all of football, and Darnell Mooney missed

750
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 7: quite a bit of time as well. So I think

751
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 7: this is sort of like what we saw with Jalen Hurts,

752
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: you know, after the Eagles got DeVante Smith and they

753
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 7: had AJ Brown, Like that's how you unlock their upside.

754
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 7: So I think Field certainly has top three upside this year.

755
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 7: You know, Darnell Mooney also being a number two receiver

756
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 7: is huge. I don't think he's a number one receiver

757
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 7: that should command a lot of targets. So I think

758
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 7: DJ Moore taking some of the attention away from Mooney

759
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 7: my unlock Mooney's upside.

760
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 6: So this is just all positive news, you know, for.

761
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 7: Justin Fields to have a talented receiver like DJ Moore

762
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 7: that he can rely on.

763
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think that what you just said about

764
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: Justin Fields and being as effective as he was without

765
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: any real receiving threats says so much about his ceiling

766
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: and so much about are we really going to learn

767
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: this year what Justin Fields is because that, to me

768
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: is the fundamental question. And I know I'm saying it

769
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: as a Homer Bears fan, but also just saying it

770
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: as someone interested in the NFL and the impact that

771
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: we'll have not just on the division, but potentially a

772
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: much weaker quarterback conference in the NFC. Raybaon, you are

773
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback connoisseur, and we're going to get to another

774
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: one of your quarterbacks sort of that you've been talking

775
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: about fading for years in it. I like how Matt

776
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell backloaded the podcast for the stars in the second half,

777
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: keep them interested in Matt Mitchell. Nice job. When you

778
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: look at Justin Fields, do you have optimism about his

779
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: extraordinary upside for this year coming to fruition.

780
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this right now.

781
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 5: I've said this on the Fantasy Flex already with Sean

782
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: say it. I'm gonna say it on a thing sugarcoat

783
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: it you and for Simon, Justin Fields has within his

784
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 5: range of outcomes a realistic change to be the highest

785
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 5: scoring player in fantasy football this year. I'm drafting I'm

786
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: drafting Justin Fields everywhere. Remember we talked about how, you know,

787
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: maybe five ten years ago in fantasy there were all

788
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 5: these scrambling quarterbacks even a few years ago that you

789
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 5: could get outside the top twelve, sometimes even outside the

790
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: top twenty, you know, even a couple.

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: You know, even Fields.

792
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 5: Last year, you know it was a bargain, but the

793
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 5: market's kind of sharpening up. And Justin Fields reminds me

794
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 5: of Jalen Hurts last year, where you know, we love

795
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts and he was like QB.

796
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 4: Ten and QB nine and KB eight and GB seven.

797
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 5: I think he ended up being like six or five,

798
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 5: but he was still a value, right Like, he's still

799
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 5: crushed that ADP that's Justin Fields. This year, he's like

800
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 5: QB six right now. But can he outscored Josh Allen?

801
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: Yes?

802
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: Can he outscore Patrick Mahomes?

803
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 6: Yes?

804
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 5: Because he Like, here's the craziest thut about Justin Fields.

805
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 5: He ran the ball three times less than Jalen Hurts

806
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 5: and had almost four hundred more rushing yards. Like, this

807
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 5: guy is just a monster. He's explosive, and now he's

808
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 5: got a receiver and Moon's coming back.

809
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 4: Comet broke out last year.

810
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 5: Maybe Claypool will get We'll get more than one or

811
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: two of the plays in the playbook this year. I mean,

812
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 5: this could be a completely different offense. And I think

813
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 5: the pass attempts will go up. I think the efficiency

814
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 5: will go up, like we could be looking at a

815
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 5: completely different offense, kind of like how you might have been. Oh,

816
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if Jalen Hurts can support you know,

817
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 5: two top fifteen receivers, Devonte Smith and A. J. Brown

818
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: last year, Well he did so. I actually think Dj Moore,

819
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: age twenty six season squarely in his prime. All of

820
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: his targets last year were from PJ Walkers, Sam Darnold

821
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 5: and Baker Mayfield. So I actually do think he gets

822
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 5: a massive jump with Justin Fields. It's not an elite,

823
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: but it's a lot better than those three guys. And

824
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 5: we've seen what DJ Moore can do with even average

825
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: quarterback play. I mean, this guy's always right around a

826
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: thousand yards. Uh, And you know, like this is I'm

827
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: all in on Justin Fields, and I think DJ Moore

828
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 5: might be able to slept on as well because I

829
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 5: think he's going to be at target. I think he's

830
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: going to be very consistent weekend week out, and he

831
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 5: doesn't miss gimes.

832
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Simon, How great is that?

833
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite joke I was gonna make is well,

834
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts probably kneeled down a lot in the games

835
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: that affected I don't think you have to worry about

836
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: justin Field.

837
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: And one touchdown touchdown.

838
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 5: I actually when I model quarterback rushing yards, I actually

839
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: break it to quarterback scrambles designed non kneel down runs

840
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: and then kneel down, So I actually factor all that

841
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: stuff in and justin Field still projects for right. But

842
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: justin Field still does project for a more efficient running

843
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 5: than the Awen Hurts, if you can believe that, Like this.

844
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 4: Guy is just a month now.

845
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: I think I think he'll run a tiny bit west

846
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 5: this year because he's got better weapons. But you know

847
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: that's gonna be a major part of offense. That's just

848
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: what Justin Fields is. He's an explosive runner. He could

849
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 5: launch the ball down the field. So yeah, I think

850
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: this is like the same way we saw I know

851
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 5: it's a cliche. At this point, we saw it, Josh Allen,

852
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 5: take that next step. We saw it, Hurts, take that

853
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: next step. I think Field is next.

854
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: Judge is worn out.

855
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get a breakdown about Rogers here. I

856
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: gotta hear my Rogers.

857
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 5: So I'm fading Rodgers like I'm jelling Rodgers, socker, socker.

858
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Context. He had no no, no joke no Joe credit

859
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: for Raybond. Before Aaron Rodgers had a couple of great

860
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: years where the floor came in. Raybond had pinpointed the

861
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: downfall of Aaron Rodgers and why he wasn't playing as

862
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: well as he had been. And then they changed the

863
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: playbook and he stopped doing a lot of stuff that

864
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Raybund said he was doing, and he had two fantastic years.

865
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't think he does anything close to what he

866
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: has done in Green Bay in this resurgence. I don't

867
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: think he has the same respect. I think he'll have

868
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: a longer leash. I think he will have krt Blanche.

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00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Raybond, tell me why. I'm right.

870
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

871
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 5: So Aaron Rodgers is coming off statistically pretty much the

872
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 5: worst season of his career, and obviously I know he

873
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: was hurt. So you have to kind of figure out, Okay, well,

874
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: how much of that is the age, how much of

875
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: that was the injury, and how much of that was

876
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: just losing Devonte Adams.

877
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 4: There is a bunch of things.

878
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 5: But I don't think the value is in drafting Aaron

879
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 5: Rodgers at QB fourteen. But the reason people need to

880
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 5: be aware that Aaron Rodgers is gonna have an impact

881
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 5: on his Jets offense is because of Garrett Wilson.

882
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 4: We know that these days.

883
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 5: Wide receivers because they get so much playing time early

884
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 5: and this is such a passing league. It used to

885
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: be year three wide receivers breakout. Now it's year two.

886
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: Receivers tend to take a big leap in their efficiency metrics. Well,

887
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson already put eighty three balls for over eleven

888
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: hundred yards last year, only had four touchdowns. But you

889
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 5: look at what Aaron Rodgers is going to do, and

890
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: I think he is going to four Steed Wilson targets.

891
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: Last year, Wilson was targeted on twenty three percent of

892
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 5: his routes. Aaron Rodgers. The last five seasons, his number

893
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 5: one wide receiver has been targeted twenty eight percent of

894
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 5: the time. And that's also in line with what you

895
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 5: usually see. You know, if a guy puts up you

896
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: know about twenty plus targets per route in year one,

897
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 5: he's usually jumping into those high twenties in year two. Anyway,

898
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers top receiver usually around two and a half

899
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 5: yards per route. Wilson was at one point nine last

900
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 5: year with you know, Zach Wilson and all those other bumps.

901
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: So I think Garrett Wilson is primed to explode. He's

902
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: going at wide receiver ten. I'm fine with taking him there.

903
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 5: But that's really what I think. The benefit of Rogers

904
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 5: is how doesn't matter how efficient he is or even

905
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: how much he helps his Jet offense as a whole,

906
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 5: He's going to make Garrett Wilson better. And remember, Garrett

907
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: Wilson the last ten games was on the field for

908
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 5: ninety seven percent of the Jets pass naps. He came

909
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 5: off the field for about one snap a game, and

910
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: that was usually when he got winded or took a

911
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 5: big hit or something like that. He's gonna be on

912
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: every play and Rogers gonna look for him. And so

913
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 5: you could see Garrett Wilson put up a DeVante Adams

914
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 5: like season. He has that kind of talent in terms

915
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: of being able to get separation and move with the football.

916
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: So I'm not really in on Rodgers, but love to

917
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: move for Garrett Wilson.

918
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: What's your take on that, coroner, Do you have a

919
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: different take on Rogers?

920
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 7: No, No, I agree with that, and I think this

921
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 7: unlocks Garrett Wilson's upside, he is for sure a top

922
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 7: ten receiver. I also like Alan Lazard in the wide

923
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 7: receiver fifty five range.

924
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the guy that he has the most

925
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 6: chemistry with.

926
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 7: And Aaron Rodgers is big on just you know, having

927
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 7: chemistry with receivers knowing where they're gonna be. So I

928
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 7: think Lazard, well, he doesn't have a ton of upside,

929
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 7: is a pretty good wide receiver fifty five right now.

930
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when we start doing convince me

931
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: on Sundays in the fall, h and Kerner and Raybahn

932
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: and Simon are all trying to convince me of the

933
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: best bets I should make. I guarantee, I guarantee the

934
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: number of times I hear about a disgusting third string

935
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: running back or tight end versus the number of times

936
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: I hear about Aaron Rodgers or Justin Field and betting

937
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: their overprop the over on the disgusting tight end or

938
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: third string running back will be so much higher than

939
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 1: Justin Fields or Aaron Rodgers.

940
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: Quarterback markets are usually fairly sharp compared to wide receivers

941
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 5: and pass catchers in general.

942
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: That's more like why that is.

943
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean I would I would actually vent Rodgers

944
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: under his passing yardage because he's gonna have a really

945
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 5: good defense with his Jet team, so you know, he

946
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 5: might not throw for a ton of yards.

947
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: They just might all go to Wilson and end Blizard.

948
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: My point is this might be the most we talk

949
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers as a quartet the entire football season,

950
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: because I'll get more. You know, Pepe lapew thirdstring running back.

951
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: UH Carter Simon's favorite quarterback in the draft, the one

952
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: he was putting all his chips on was Anthony Richardson.

953
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Nice drafted by the Colts. You've got him on our

954
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: list as one of the biggest fantasy moves during the NFL.

955
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: Could be a league winner, Chad a league winner this season,

956
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: explained yourself. Tell me what is right?

957
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, So if you were to design the perfect fants

958
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 7: football quarterback in a lab, Anthony and Richardson would be

959
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 7: pretty frigging close to that. He might be the best

960
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 7: athlete we've ever seen play quarterback, and he has e

961
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 7: la arm talent. Now, he's still pretty raw, so it

962
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: might take him a year or two to develop as

963
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 7: a passer. If anything, That means he might lean on

964
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 7: his legs even more in your one, which is great

965
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 7: for fansy football. We love that. But the reason I

966
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 7: think the Colts was such a good landing spot is

967
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 7: you know, he was favored to go to the Seahawks

968
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 7: or Titans, which would have made it really tough for

969
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 7: him to start this year. Like I said, he doesn'ted

970
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: to develop a bit, so I would have only projected

971
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 7: him for a handful of starts if that, But landing

972
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 7: on the Colts needs that he could be the starter

973
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 7: as soon as week one. I don't think Gardner ivanshe's

974
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 7: good enough to really hold him off for too long,

975
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 7: and they want to get him reps right away. So

976
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 7: also he gets to play for Shane Steichen, who helped

977
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 7: develop Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. So just I thought there

978
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 7: was a fantastic landing spot for him. His fantasy upside

979
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 7: so he's going right around QB fifteen right now, but

980
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 7: if he starts week one, he'll easily clear that. So

981
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 7: if you can't get Justin Fields earlier in the draft,

982
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 7: you can wait and get Richardson a bit later, and

983
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 7: he has top five upside, maybe not a near one,

984
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 7: but down the road. So I love getting him at

985
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 7: that point in my.

986
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: Drafts, Simon, you love Anthony Richardson.

987
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's not like I'm projecting a Cam. I mean,

988
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: we all remember Cam Newton's rookie season that was truly

989
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: the pinnacle of what you hope for, Right, that's like

990
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: peak form. I'm not even looking for that. I'm just

991
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: looking for what I feel like. Even Chris talked about it.

992
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,479
Speaker 2: These running quarterbacks, like the market is catching up to them.

993
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: But that's kind of what we're doing here where we're

994
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: really buying low. Right, It's all about where you spend

995
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: your draft capital. You can get Anthony pretty late. So

996
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: even if he is a bum and he doesn't work out,

997
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: he can't pick up the offense, you can find someone else.

998
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: But the hope is when these guys come in with

999
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: this high athletic ability, that's what they rely on.

1000
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: Right.

1001
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, this kid can't read defenses. He doesn't

1002
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: really know how to read the offense either, but when

1003
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: in doubt, he'll pull it down and you run it.

1004
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: And I mean, how many times do we see with

1005
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: justin fields like you're like, oh, he's gonna get caught here,

1006
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: He's not gonna make it through and he makes it through. Right,

1007
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: these freak athletes, there's no way to quantify it. So

1008
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: to me, Anthony Richardson, his upside is so high, and

1009
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: what you're paying for him the draft capital, it's just

1010
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: it's worth the risk of the scuppy them in season

1011
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: in the sense that every year there's these running quarterbacks

1012
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: that people kind of don't take, right. Say, it's him

1013
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: coming up, and some guy out there is gonna take,

1014
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: you know, a stand in passing quarterback before him, don't.

1015
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: We don't hate on it, right, some guy's gonna take

1016
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: Rogers there at QB fourteen. To me, I didn't rather

1017
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: take the upside of Richardson. So that's the whole point

1018
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: we're projecting out from these players.

1019
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 5: And let me say this, Richardson is the one quarterback

1020
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 5: where I never recommend, you know, in redraft, taking multiple

1021
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 5: players at the onesie positions, you know, quarterback, tight end.

1022
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 5: But I would actually draft Anthony Richardson even if I

1023
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 5: got a top twelve starter, just for the upside, and

1024
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 5: because a lot of times I will be drafting a

1025
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 5: Fields or a Josh Allen or a hurt and or Lamar,

1026
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 5: and running quarterbacks do get hurt, So you know, I

1027
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 5: just look at it. If you can get him as

1028
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 5: your QB two, I think he's the one guy worth

1029
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 5: using a roster spot on that second QB because I

1030
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: don't know if there's anyone else that you're gonna you know, like,

1031
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: if he start, whenever he's starting, you know, his upside

1032
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 5: is going to be similar to Justin Fields or somebody

1033
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 5: like that. And I just don't know if you're getting

1034
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 5: another player there that you could kind of bank on

1035
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: that type of upside right away that that loan the draft.

1036
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 5: So I actually would make an exception for him and

1037
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 5: have him as my QB too. I think that would

1038
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 5: actually be the ideal scenario because you know, GARDAVNHW might

1039
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: start Week one in the coach Automatic loss to Jacksonville.

1040
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: Well, so's sound with.

1041
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: Kebs then, Chris, if you're if you're viewing any team

1042
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: that has lost the biggest key position, it's gotta be Tampa, right,

1043
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 2: Tampa lost Brady. What's your outlook on this couple because

1044
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: upcoming season, because Mike Evans is still there, Godwin's still there.

1045
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: How are you viewing these guys now? Where?

1046
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: Holy shit, man, it might be Baker Mayfield throwing to him,

1047
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: like what are we doing here? So what's your view

1048
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: of this upcoming season on this Tampa team?

1049
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: The arrow for Evans and Godwin is pointing downwards, like

1050
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 5: Tampa Bay themselves, like they might they might have a

1051
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: pretty good defense and might play, you know, like they

1052
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: might keep games closer than we think. And Mike, they

1053
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 5: might be one of those teams we're betting on as

1054
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: an underdog a lot. But in terms of their fantasy potential,

1055
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 5: it's probably gonna be ugly because you look at Mike

1056
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 5: Evans and Godwin. Last year they were volume dependent wide receivers.

1057
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: They both finished in the top twenty. But Evans seventy

1058
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 5: seven catches, just over eleven hundred yards, only six touchdowns,

1059
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: and Chris Godwin over one hundred catches, just over one

1060
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 5: thousand yards, but only three touchdowns. So a lot of catches,

1061
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 5: a lot of yards, not many touchdowns even last year. Well,

1062
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 5: now you're going from Brady to Mayfield and or even

1063
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 5: Kyle Trask twenty one third rounder, nine career pass attempts.

1064
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 5: But the issue here is not just to drop off

1065
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 5: in terms of the efficiency.

1066
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 4: It's the volume.

1067
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: Because when you have Tom Brady, you're gonna throw forty

1068
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: four times a game.

1069
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: That's what Tampa Bay did last year.

1070
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 5: They led the league forty four point two pass attempts

1071
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 5: per game, forty more pass attempts than any other team

1072
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: in the National Football League. Baker Mayfield has only attempted

1073
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: that many passes three times in his entire career.

1074
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: He averages under thirty two attempts per game for his career.

1075
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 5: So I think you're gonna see a totally different offense,

1076
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 5: a lot fewer passing attempts, and Tampa Bay's defense still

1077
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: isn't bad. So yes, they're gonna be probably one of

1078
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 5: the worst teams in the league, but that doesn't necessarily

1079
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: mean they're gonna get run out of the building. I

1080
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: could see them playing a lot of like twenty to

1081
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 5: ten games, you know, seventeen than not. Those kind of

1082
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 5: games not gonna be too conducive for a fantasy production

1083
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: from the passing game. So I'm hoping Mike Evans can

1084
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 5: still get his keep his one thousand yard streak going.

1085
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: But remember he got like a bunch of touchdowns in

1086
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Speaker 5: one game last year.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty ugly outside.

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Speaker 5: Of that, and and Godwin, you know who knows, with

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Speaker 5: him I think he's gonna be a little healthier, but overall,

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Speaker 5: you know, he had a he was one hundred hatch

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Speaker 5: receiver last year. He had about twenty five more catches

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Speaker 5: than Evans. And with the volume decrease we're projecting, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know, Godwin and Godwin could drop off, you know,

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Speaker 5: twenty thirty catches if not more, and Evans could have

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Speaker 5: his first sub one thousand yard season. So right now, Evans,

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Speaker 5: even though they finished top twenty, Evans going wide receiver

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Speaker 5: twenty seven and Godwin going wide receiver thirty. And I

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Speaker 5: think that's fair because you just don't the touchdowns. You

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Speaker 5: just don't know where they're going to come from. When

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Speaker 5: when Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask are in your quarterback ron.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to our last topic from Kerner, which

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Speaker 1: is also I think fairly controversial. In a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a surprise, quick round robin like we do and

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Speaker 1: convince me, quick round robin, Mike Evans Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: Sean Kerner yes or no?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Simon Hunter yes or.

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Speaker 3: No yeah, easy easy, Raybond.

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Speaker 1: Easy us or note yes absolutely. I think I agree.

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Speaker 1: All right, Curner. We just went through Tom Brady, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers justin fields, we went through a bevy of potential

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Speaker 1: All Pro running backs and yet for the last topic

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Speaker 1: of the day, you want to bring me the Lions

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Speaker 1: for the second time. You want to bring me someone

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00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: who has never played an NFL snap yep, wan who

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Speaker 1: it is? And why?

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Speaker 7: Getting you ready for convince me that these random players?

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Speaker 7: But I love this landing spot on both sides. But

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Speaker 7: it's Sam Laporta to the Lions. And you know, laporta

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Speaker 7: tight end from Iowa, tight end from Iowa who has

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Speaker 7: been producing a lot of good tight ends the last

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00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 7: decade or so, but he was one of the better

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Speaker 7: pass catching tight ends in this year's class, and it

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Speaker 7: was kind of surprising, you know, the Lions took him

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Speaker 7: in the second round with Michael Mayer, who was considered

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Speaker 7: the top overall titand prospect since he's a pretty good

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00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 7: pass blocker, was also available. So it's clear that the

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Speaker 7: Lions want to tap into Laporter's receiving upside because they're

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Speaker 7: looking to replace TJ. Hawkinson after training way to the

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Speaker 7: Vikings last year. So Laporta is who replaced TJ. Hawkinson

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 7: at Iowa, looked every bit as good. Now he's going

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Speaker 7: to replace him in Detroit. And just due to like

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00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 7: you know, Jamison Williams being out in the first six

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00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 7: games behind Alman ros Saint, Brown's kind of shaky. Who's

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00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 7: gonna be the number two pass catcher. Laporta has a

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00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 7: chance at least to be Jared Goff's number two target

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00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 7: this season, So I think he has a ton of

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00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 7: upside in this offense. I thought it was a great

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00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 7: move for the Lions, who, like I said, they need

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Speaker 7: to replace t J.

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Speaker 6: Hawkinson.

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Speaker 7: So I thought it was good for both the Lions

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00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 7: and Laporta that he ended up in Detroit.

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00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: Right then, this feels like a special for you a

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00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: tight end nobody's heard of.

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00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 4: If you know who he is or the draft.

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00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, I like it because listen, tight end gets

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00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: really ugly quick. Like last year, I mean Mark Mark

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 5: Andrews was kind of a disappointment. George Kittle, you know,

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00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: wasn't targeted a lot, just but he saved this season

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 5: with eleven touchdowns, you know, and with McCaffrey there, he

1152
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 5: might not be a productive Darren Waller's you know, over

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 5: thirty and on a new team.

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 4: It's it's tough at tight end.

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 5: So you know, if you miss out on on on

1156
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 5: a a week guy, I think you want to take

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00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 5: a flyer in Laporta. You know they they drafted him

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00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 5: with the intent to use him as a pass catcher,

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00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: as Sean has alluded to.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I look back. You know TJ.

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 5: Hockinson's first ever game with the Detroit Lions eight catches,

1162
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty one yards and a touchdown. So

1163
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 5: he might have to bet some Laporta overs Week one

1164
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 5: against Kansas.

1165
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 7: City against the Cardinals, who's they were like historically bad

1166
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 7: against Titans.

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00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean every year they are that same same day,

1168
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 5: Like remember no a fan last year.

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: But I digress.

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00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 5: I think I'll throw you know, Like for me, my

1171
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 5: plan at tight end is if I can't get like

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00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: a top five guy, uh, it's Chigo Konquo, That's the

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: that's the guy really want.

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00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: I think he has.

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00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: He's one of the only other guys with top five upside,

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00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 5: And then I'm going after guys like, uh, the young

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00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: guys like Kincaid and in Laporta, because these guys have

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 5: a chance to be a major parts of their offenses

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00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 5: and they're kind of like slot receivers too. You know,

1180
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 5: Laporta played over half the snaps slot and wide, so

1181
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: you know he he's not necessarily a tight end in

1182
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 5: the sense that like it's gonna be this massive learning

1183
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 5: curve because he's almost gonna be a little bit more

1184
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: like a receiver. So you know, with this Lion team,

1185
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 5: amon Ro is going to be.

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00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 4: A target hog. I'm sure Gibbs.

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 5: Gibbs might be the number two target, but I mean

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 5: you've got Marvin Jones and Josh Reynolds and Khalif Raymond

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Speaker 5: until James and Williams get back, and Williams might be

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 5: a low percentage route runner anyway, so there could be

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: you know, like a good three four catches open here

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00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: for Laporta every game. And you know that doesn't sound

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Speaker 5: like a lot, but at tight end, and especially when

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00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 5: you're getting them outside the top twenty, I think there's

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Speaker 5: some upside here.

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Speaker 4: So I totally agree with Sean.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting. I feel like, as we wrap

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Speaker 1: it up, I feel like this was a fantasy focused podcast,

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Speaker 1: but we got a lot of betting insights here. Let

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Speaker 1: me wrap up some of my notes right A. We

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Speaker 1: might want to get on Miami sooner rather than later

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: for a little bit of a taste of a future,

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00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: because if Dalvin Cold does go there, the number could move.

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Speaker 1: We all agree that we're probably going to be in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons podcast again, right, Simon, can I get confirmation?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I like the Piccatarian.

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: We're probably going to be in Atlanta Falcons pod.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 5: I was the Panthers last year. I was the Panthers

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Speaker 5: whisperer last year. I'm pivoting to the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: We're probably going to be fading the Lions early in

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00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 1: the year because the public is going to love them

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: so much. We're probably going to hold on. I can't

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Speaker 1: read my notes here. I'll have to skip that one.

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Speaker 1: Oh what did I run? I just wrote it down.

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Speaker 1: I can't even read it.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers passing yard unders.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're definitely gonna like Garrett Wilson over and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers passing yards under. We also are probably going to

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Speaker 1: fade Mike Evans season totals, probably going to fade Chris

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Speaker 1: Godwin season totals, and we're gonna like Sam Laporta in

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Speaker 1: Week one. Loving all of this good for us.

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Speaker 4: Miles Sanders ower receptions.

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