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Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at

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Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal

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Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. So what's happening

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Speaker 1: in women's basketball right now is what we've been trying to.

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Speaker 2: Get to for almost thirty years.

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Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athletes break barriers and set records.

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Speaker 2: Catin Quark broke the all time single game assists record.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy for rookies to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms

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Speaker 1: and the community we create. In each episode, we'll sit

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Speaker 1: down with athletes, political analysts, and culture critics because at

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Speaker 1: the core of it all, how we see one issue

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Speaker 1: shines the light on all others. Welcome to Naked Sports.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Carrie Champion. Hey, everybody, welcome to a

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Speaker 1: new edition of Naked Sports. Interesting because today we have

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Speaker 1: a WNBA legend on I love Angel Angel mccattree. She

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Speaker 1: is a sweetheart. She was the number one overall draft

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Speaker 1: like many of the legends of the WNBA, they are

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Speaker 1: finding their place while the world of women's sports has

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Speaker 1: its time. And I'm not saying like this is just

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Speaker 1: a season. I am saying people are aware of women's

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Speaker 1: sports in a way in which they haven't been before.

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Speaker 1: The WNBA and marketing deals are through the roof, and

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Speaker 1: there is a generation of players who not necessarily were

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Speaker 1: because that's where they usually make their money. And then

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Speaker 1: they find themselves, you know, deciding where they'll live in

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Speaker 1: this current landscape. Will they be a coach, will they

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Speaker 1: be a I don't know, perhaps an analyst. But they're

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Speaker 1: finding their way because for many people who just started

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Speaker 1: watching the WNBA in women's sports in general, you don't

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Speaker 1: know who these women are. I think it's interesting. I

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Speaker 1: was having a conversation with someone the other day about

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Speaker 1: Maya Moore and Lisa Leslie and they were like, who who,

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Speaker 1: Tell me who? And I realized, especially during this conversation

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Speaker 1: that I had with Angel, it's not just for WA players.

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Speaker 1: It's just a generational thing. It is a time thing.

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Speaker 1: There was a time that I didn't know that Ronald Reagan,

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Speaker 1: and his wife, Nancy was an actor. I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: generation of people who don't remember Arnold Schwartzenigga as the

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Speaker 1: Governor of California, but just as the terminator. There are

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Speaker 1: people who will remember President Trump as President Trump and

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Speaker 1: You may just remember him from the Apprentice and you're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: he is the president. You know, I doubt it. But

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Speaker 1: people have many lives. I say all that to say

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Speaker 1: people have many lives, and Angel has done something that

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Speaker 1: has allowed this new generation of WNBA players to exist

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Speaker 1: It's just the way life is, and you just have

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, she has taken her talents to South Beach,

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Speaker 1: and I'm kidding, she's taken her talents to a different

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Speaker 1: She has been so unapologetic about expressing herself as the

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Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoyed this addition of naked sports. Okay, Angel,

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Speaker 1: We begin the podcast with so many questions about your

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Speaker 1: my ability. When did filmmaking really become a part of

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Speaker 3: You know what, it was something that really fell into

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Speaker 2: I only know basketball.

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Speaker 3: I've been playing since I eight years old, and I

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Speaker 3: So we're always in front of the cameras basketball players, right,

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Speaker 3: And that's how I got started in it.

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Speaker 1: What else am I talented that? That is a great question,

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Speaker 2: I'm most talented at being a leader.

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Speaker 3: Basketball has taught me how to lead, so I know

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Speaker 3: how to find talent. So my most recent film, by Gones,

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Speaker 3: I am good at having a vision and creating things

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Speaker 1: You just said it very casually. But for those who

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Speaker 1: I believe in two thousand and nine. Am I right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still in time. Was eighteen nineteen, nineteen nineteen

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Speaker 2: Never. I didn't think Olympian was a title.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I tell the kids, like, fine something

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Speaker 2: I didn't know I would be a filmmaker. And now

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Speaker 3: So you know, given the game playing, this game has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, I was given a platform that taught

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Speaker 3: You play a game, then you're flying somewhere else, which

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Speaker 3: And when I was in Atlanta, people didn't even know

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Speaker 1: transition for women, it's very different. Men seem to make

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Speaker 3: How do we help the girls who nobody knows about

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Speaker 2: That's why I want to do filmmaking. I want to

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Speaker 3: Yes, Bally, I want to be a bridge to bridge

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Speaker 1: Here's what I can that is about women who play

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Speaker 2: Cause like you're young and you don't you've never seen

437
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: the difference. I didn't know. I was always a stuperstar.

438
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: I was a superstar. Louisville came out and I.

439
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: Want pig and blah blah blah, and I'm becoming more known.

440
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: I'm an Olympian now.

441
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 3: And then it just stops and you're like going crazy

442
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: because you've missed the applause. I do miss that though.

443
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: I do miss the applause of fans and like them cheering.

444
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: I do miss that part, but I feel like I'll

445
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 3: get the cheers. I want to hear the cheers in

446
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 3: another way when they see my films.

447
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: But it does.

448
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: I was depressed for a long time, like I told

449
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: you when you saw in rosin of you, like it's

450
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: a depressed pressed feeling like you feel like you're nothing,

451
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 3: You're nobody, and you you're you haven't accomplished anything, when

452
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: it's really just a total lot.

453
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: You have accomplished a lot.

454
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 3: Only five thousand people in the United States have a medal,

455
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: and you gotta remember.

456
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: You have to remind.

457
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: Yourself like I did do something and I'm okay, and

458
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: that's what a lot of athletes have to learn because

459
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: a lot of athletes do go through depression.

460
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 2: We all go through it, you know. I had after

461
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 2: Roz's interview, I.

462
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,479
Speaker 3: Had so many people hit me up, old NBA players

463
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: like I went through the same thing. So it's something

464
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: there that we have to teach the kids now if

465
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 3: they need to do therapy now, so when their time comes,

466
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: they're prepared for it.

467
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

468
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 1: I would love for you to do a film introducing

469
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: the heroes of the WNBA from inception till now, but

470
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: making sure that we understand who everybody is. I feel

471
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: like there is a litany, Uh there are women that

472
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: we just don't even know who they are. I mean,

473
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: we know the Lisa Leslie's of the world, and obviously

474
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: there Sheryl Swoops, but there is a long list of

475
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: women that have been so many who really built this

476
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: place that we call the w NBA, and there is

477
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: a generation, if not an entire sport world that are

478
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with who they are. I did a series on

479
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese on my podcast recently, and

480
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: it was like it was about rivalry and why the

481
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: making of a rivalry between those two really ushered in

482
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: a new entire world for for w NBA players and

483
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: for women's sports in general. And you used to play

484
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: like people don't understand that the women in the league,

485
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: in the w more specifically compete. And when you all

486
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: started to get this attention, and by you all, I

487
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: mean the WNBA, you know, whether it be watching Kitlin

488
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: Clark and Angelies go at it on a collegiate level,

489
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: people were appalled by what they saw and I was like, what.

490
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: Do you what have y'all?

491
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: Y'all never clearly you've never watched what is you've never watched? Yeah,

492
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: so what is your take on how women are supposed

493
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: to compete versus how you all compete?

494
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

495
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: So do my era, my rival was Maya Moore, which

496
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 3: was such a great If you go back and watch

497
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 3: that film, you'll see it's just as exciting as now.

498
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: It's just we didn't have the investment like now. And

499
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: we always said, look at where we are without the

500
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 3: marketing dollars, We're still right there. So we would say, like,

501
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 3: if you put the marketing dollars behind us, it's gonna work.

502
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: We literally heard brands, some brands would literally say this

503
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: dumb Bay were not interested.

504
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: We've heard that.

505
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: Seriously, you cannot believe that that's how they used to

506
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: look at us.

507
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: I think now it's a great story.

508
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: It's like the modern day Magic Johnson Larry Bird and

509
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: people are cleaning to that. But I gotta tell guys

510
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: when they're like, oh, you girls are plan now, I said,

511
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: let me tell you something.

512
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: Bruh. We been playing. Yeah, don't play with me. And

513
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: then I showed them my highlights and they're like, oh,

514
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: you was doing that. I'm like, cause you didn't know,

515
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: you didn't watch.

516
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: Don't say y'all playing now, because honestly, they can get

517
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 3: mad at me all they want.

518
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: Our era was tough.

519
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: It was no off night to guard Simone and Maya

520
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: and Tamika. Some of these girls have an off night

521
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 3: every now. I'm gonna just put it like that, Okay,

522
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: to half shro forward knocking you down your throat. Lisa

523
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: Leslie welcomed me to the league with an elbow on

524
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: my chest. I was on the ground, we saying.

525
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: That they jumped Candas Parker when she was when she

526
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: was a rookie. Yes, you sawry bags.

527
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: I bought donuts do They told me she look Samiko

528
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: Host and told me to get up in the morning.

529
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: I had a mile run at five am. I showed

530
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: up at that gym. Want nobody there. They tricked me.

531
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: These girls ain't getting that treatment. They don't have a clue.

532
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: They because they're making the money in college now and

533
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: they're like, they're like, what is this I should be

534
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: treated so well? You're like, no, when you came, you

535
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: talk about to me ketching's you talk about Lisa Leslie,

536
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: you talking about how people no off day, no maya more,

537
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: no off day. We because it was from the mud

538
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: and you see it now and there's a different level.

539
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: And we don't want to sound like I don't want

540
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: to sound like how Chuck sounds when he's on, you know,

541
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: inside the NBA complaining about the number of he complains

542
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: about the players in today's league. I get it. I understand.

543
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: He was like, we didn't have all this money I

544
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: was making, and yeah, I got private he he says

545
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: it the exact same way. But there is some truth

546
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: to that. There is some some type of sweat equity

547
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: that is missing, and there's a different type of value

548
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: to it. But it doesn't make their value any less

549
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: important because we all have to arrive. I wonder, if

550
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: you don't play anymore, would you ever think about coaching?

551
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I get that question all the time.

552
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: Do I think I'm a good coach?

553
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: I do.

554
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: I think that I've learned from Don Staley, Gino Ariama.

555
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: I've watched them.

556
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: I've watched how they coach. I watch how they bring

557
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: out the best in their players. And I don't understand

558
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: why other coaches don't mock the best coaches. If I'm

559
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: a coach, I'm gonna do everything Geno does. I'm running

560
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 3: his same place.

561
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm doing because it's proven. Don I don't know why

562
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: coaches have their ego like I'm doing it my way.

563
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: This is my system. Forget that.

564
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: Mimic the best, Yeah, and then a stuff if you

565
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: need to, Yes, it makes sense.

566
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: Do I want to coach right now? No?

567
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: It's a lot of time and effort. And the kids

568
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: are different now, y'all a little more sensitive. Do I

569
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: Will I help the kids and just coach the kids? Sure,

570
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: we'll coach right now. No, maybe when I'm older, But

571
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: now we're gonna stick to these spells.

572
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. The younger generation hates when

573
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: we say they're a little more sensitive. They say that

574
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: we are jealous or we don't get it, but they

575
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 1: are so sensitive.

576
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: Like y'all and I'm gonna say, I don't care, but

577
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 3: y'all got it. Tough En up a little bit, because

578
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: y'all transfer whenever you want. Y'all don't stick through it.

579
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: We stuck through them for you. You went to UCLA, right.

580
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and you stay there. You stay there. You

581
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: don't have a choice. You stay there, or have a choice.

582
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: And on top of that, you take it because it's

583
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: not given it to earn like you just gotta take it.

584
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: We're not We're not all social media buddies. So I'm

585
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: naturally in the crowd and I'm cool. You just got

586
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: to figure it. You got to figure it out.

587
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so so kids.

588
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: When you you don't like always like your boss, leave

589
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: and go ten different jobs before they years out stick

590
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: to it.

591
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break because we have to

592
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: pay some bills. We'll be right back in just a

593
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: few moments. It's interesting. There's a part of me that

594
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: understands the nuance of all of it. But I also

595
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: like the idea of women having leverage in the WNBA.

596
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: What the women have done in the WNBA. And I'm

597
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: talking about Nefisa and Brianna and creating unwrival. Oh yeah,

598
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: I like them saying, you know what, this system doesn't

599
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: work for me, and I'm going to create a system

600
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: that does work for me, and I'm gonna show the

601
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: WNBA that it can be done. So there is something

602
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: about the generation after us and those who are coming

603
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: after us. There's this this entitlement that creates ingenuity and

604
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur spirit. And I like it that I do

605
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: because then it's as you are not the master of me.

606
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: There are other ways we can go about doing it.

607
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: So so that is my kudos to them. I don't

608
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: want to just say everything about it is bad and

609
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: throw it out, but the entitlement needs to be balanced,

610
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: as is everything with life. But when you say I

611
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: just want to stick to films, and I just and

612
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: I think, and obviously music, because I didn't know that

613
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: you could sing so well, where where did all this

614
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: come from? When did we know we could sing? Were

615
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: we singing on all while we was in people's faces

616
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: talking trash?

617
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: Were you No, definitely weren't doing that.

618
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: I just think creativity is where I'm at, Like, I

619
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: love creativity. I like what you said leveraging being entrepreneurs.

620
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: I think that one day I would love to own

621
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: a team. I'm trying to work now to bring a

622
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: taint to Louisville, a Dumbbay team. It's a great town

623
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: that I didn't enjoy and appreciate it.

624
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: Let's go.

625
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: I love Ida right there. Yeah.

626
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we need more Dumbbay players and those for

627
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: office positions. We need more players in the league's positions coaching.

628
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: I want to see more dumba players coaching in the

629
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: dum Bay. I think we need that because they understand.

630
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: So that's where it's at now. And what the FISA

631
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: and still we did is it's just a start of that.

632
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: They showed us like it can be done.

633
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: I think that when you think about, Oh, I'm just curious,

634
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: when you think about unrivaled, how would you would you

635
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: play there? Would you be interested in playing with them

636
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: in any capacity? Or you said not coaching? But it

637
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: feels like that's not a real dedicate, Like you don't

638
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: have to be fully locked in, you know what I mean. Yeah,

639
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: it's a it's an abated season.

640
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I.

641
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: Think unarrival is something that can continue to grow, can

642
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: have more teams.

643
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: Obviously they're paying the.

644
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: Girls more because, like you said, you know, going overseas

645
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: is kind of tough now the economy has changed and

646
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: there's so much war now, like can you yeah, yeah, don't.

647
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: Nobody want to go over there after what happened to Brittany?

648
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Can we get back.

649
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yes, you really live over there, but

650
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: still yeah.

651
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: And then I had one of my old agents telling me, Yo,

652
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: if you want to get back in the league, Israel

653
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: hesitanting I'm not going to Israel. He's like, well, they're

654
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: not going to pick you up in the league because

655
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: they got to see play. Guess what they just about

656
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: to bring me in the workout and see what I

657
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: can do because I'm not going to Israel.

658
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: By the way, you could benefit. You could be a

659
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: solid jewel on any team right now, on any team

660
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: right now.

661
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: W NBA.

662
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Emotional, I know, but you know that. And I think

663
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: that the painful part is is when they try to

664
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: to expire you or tell you what your limits are,

665
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: and you know what you're capable of. If I were you,

666
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: I would keep trying. I would I would keep knocking

667
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: on doors would be emotional. I'm not trying to make

668
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: you emotional, but I'm telling you don't let these people

669
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: get in your head and tell you that you're not

670
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: worth it. You are so worthy and so worth it,

671
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: and you could be invaluable. That's the part of the

672
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: w n B a that I would like to see

673
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: expand they bring out these players and say with the

674
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: NFL teams, they bring out these players that ain't seen

675
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: no work in forever. They dust these people off and

676
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: make them quarterbacks when they need somebody just to come

677
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: in and practice.

678
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: Hold on, man.

679
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, you can do that in

680
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: the w NBA. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing

681
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: wrong with finding tried and true talent. And you are

682
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: such tried and true talent. And not only would you

683
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: be invaluable just on the court, off the court, what

684
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: you can do in a locker room. So I am

685
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: telling you do not give up, because I know you

686
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: love it and I know you want to do it,

687
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: and I know that you feel like you're okay with it.

688
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: But I still see that fire in your eyes and

689
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: I still see that you still have more to give.

690
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean you ain't you know, I mean,

691
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you thirty, but you never know. I might.

692
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know I can give you so much

693
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: more and we want probably crown on the interview.

694
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that that.

695
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: Just touched me because it has been tough and I

696
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: do want to finish. I do want to finish plane

697
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: on the court, and yeah, it just means so much

698
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: to you deserve I'm hoping.

699
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that nod when you wipe it.

700
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Yes, but you deserve that. We have to start treating

701
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: our legends like our legends, and they deserve that opportunity.

702
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: And you are not, like I'm telling you, you're still

703
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: so very young. You have so many lives, as you

704
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: will know, and you've already started this second and third

705
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: career that you're going to ultimately have in such a big,

706
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: huge way. But you deserve that. And so hopefully someone

707
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: is watching and paying attention and be like, you know

708
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: what you bring my girl in.

709
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Thank you so much for that

710
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: carry that.

711
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: Loves you deserve it. You deserve it. And by the way,

712
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: that's not my only thought I have. I've called around

713
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: and talked to people before we did the interview, and

714
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: they all felt the same way. So it's not a

715
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: it's not an isolated perspective. So I disencourage you to

716
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 1: keep going. Are you Are you working out every day?

717
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: What's your workout?

718
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: Oh? My god?

719
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: Every day in the gym, training and working out, staying

720
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: in shape. So when when the call comes, I'll letting

721
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: them know I'm ready. You ain't gonna see me out

722
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: of shape coming there, so yes, yeah, you know how

723
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: that goes.

724
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm ready, ready.

725
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Yes.

726
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: So now that we are, we're based in Atlanta, right, I.

727
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: Was based in Atlanta for fifteen years. I just moved

728
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: to La your hometown.

729
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're in La La La La. Okay, good, Okay,

730
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So you moved out of Atlanta.

731
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: You're done.

732
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: I'm done. Yeah, it was time for a change.

733
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, good for you. How do you feel about La?

734
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: You know what? I like it.

735
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: I feel like people are enjoying my talents that I bring,

736
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: like as far as creativity, because Atlanta was kind of

737
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: like girl, what you're doing girl?

738
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: Uh huh?

739
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: And sorry to say it like this. I feel like

740
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: I hope nobody gets me for this. Atlanta is like

741
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: Tamar Braxton h l A is like Tony Braxton.

742
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: No one's going to disagree.

743
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: Don't kill me for that.

744
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: There is a there is a a clear difference between

745
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: the Hollywood in Atlanta and the Hollywood in LA, right obviously,

746
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: And there's a difference between how you move in LA

747
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: and how you move in Atlanta Atlanta. I lived in Atlanta.

748
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I loved Atlanta. I think it's amazing. I lived in

749
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta when I was a cub reporter. I worked for

750
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: WGC of CBS station, and I loved, my god, I

751
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: loved Atlanta. It taught me a lot of wonderful things.

752
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: But I also know outside of Atlanta is the South,

753
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: and so there's only so much that you can I

754
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: feel personally, that you can do unless you're Tyler Perry

755
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: right it. And he's made it such a beautiful space.

756
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: And I love that he's done that, and he's stayed

757
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: there and he's like, this is where we're doing it.

758
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: He's created its own black Hollywood, his Hollywood. But LA

759
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: is you mentioned Deon Taylor. I'm a huge fan of

760
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: his work, his films. I love that you've connected with him.

761
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: It's easier for what you see yourself doing to be

762
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: with someone like that. Have you ran into Magic Johnson?

763
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: Can you talk to him about being on the sparks.

764
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: I haven't ran in some magic, but I did need

765
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: somebody to say, hey, I'm really good first of magic,

766
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: I need to put in a word.

767
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: You know. I'm like, I'll take it. You know what

768
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying, self supprise you ever. I mean, we'll see.

769
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: I mean I'm open. I'm just open to it all.

770
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, So I want to talk about the couple

771
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: of latest singles that I've seen on said on said

772
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: social Where are we at with our music? What are

773
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: we putting out? Because you putting out videos where there

774
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: was one video what's the name of this song that

775
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: you have? Where? And I laughed so hard because it's

776
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: also timely for folks who don't know. Tracy Ellis Ross

777
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago said some amazing things to me

778
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: about dating younger men.

779
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: Oo.

780
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: Then I click on your page and I see this

781
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: video of you talking about this young shorty and and

782
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: how he keep running back to you when old girl

783
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: acting right, when his girlfriend a acting right? Tell me

784
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: the name of the single and where'd that all come from?

785
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: The inspiration?

786
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: So I wrote that one so I do have some

787
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 3: writers that might send me songs like you you'd be

788
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: good on this, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm recording this,

789
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: but that when I wrote all by Myself, I was like, y'all,

790
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 3: I got a good one. Took it to the citio

791
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: and we perfected it. It's such a great grown up,

792
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: like kind of nineties feel song. Yeah, it's called My

793
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: Own Love, and it's just about like you always coming

794
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 3: to me when you hurt and I'm starting to feel

795
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: you a little bit.

796
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: I need my own love.

797
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't need to be wrapped up into your life

798
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: and what you got going on. So that's kind of

799
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: the basis of that song.

800
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: Am I going that? No, I'm very single.

801
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: But did I have an ex boyfriend who I was

802
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: just going through this toxic loop with. Yes, it's just

803
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: that loop, and I had said, you know what, I

804
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: gotta break this loop.

805
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: I ain't doing this no more. I had to cut

806
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: that loop off. But it kind of goes into that and.

807
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: I have people hit me like, oh my god, I'm

808
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: going through that, now, what should I do your song?

809
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, cut that loop off because it ain't

810
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: gonna stop. It's gonna be twenty years of that toxic loop.

811
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: Let it go.

812
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: Let it go because it won't change. Well, I it

813
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: resonated with me because Tracy ellis ross to her point,

814
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: and she was like, I wonder. She was like, I

815
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out why I only keep dating

816
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: younger man? Why does that keep coming up? Why do

817
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: I Why am I only attracting that? And she said

818
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: something that I thought was smart and also something I

819
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: could totally relate to because I also not intentionally but

820
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: date younger men. And it was the idea of a

821
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: just someone who was a little more limber in his

822
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: train of thought, meaning like he was a little more flexible,

823
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: and how he moved in the world and how he

824
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: perceived life and women in so many ways, especially women

825
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: like us who are very entrepreneurial and do our things

826
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: and are very capable of being on our own, we

827
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: find ourselves in these spaces where we don't choose to

828
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: be masculine, but just because our surroundings make us masculine

829
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: in terms of the energy we give off, because you know,

830
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: we got to do it. And so I have found

831
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: that younger men have been more open to that. There's

832
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: no judgment associated to it. They kind of they think

833
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: it's cool and they enjoy it.

834
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: I am a relationship type of person, but I'm not

835
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: that girl that's going to like we together now. No,

836
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: I need to get to know you first, because I

837
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: watched way too many crime shows and the Fatal Attraction.

838
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna get to know y'all ass and we're

839
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: going to take our time. But once I see that

840
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: you really bob about it easy too it. I even

841
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: know because I'm enjoying my life. I travel, I'm doing

842
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: things making good money.

843
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: Well, that's your thing, that's the thing. And I've been

844
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: reading New York Times to the survey the other day

845
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: about women between the ages of like twenty five and forty,

846
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: and they are like, we have big, full lives. The

847
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: last thing we want to do is be married. The

848
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: last thing we want to do is try to And

849
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, And then my other friend, his name is

850
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: Scott Galloway. He's been doing a study on men and

851
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: how they're so behind the gap of women college age women,

852
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: college educated women rather women who are entrepreneurs. He was like,

853
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: men are falling behind, and we'll look up and we'll

854
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: realize that women are like, I'm all set, and I'm like,

855
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: is that really what it's about to be? Because the

856
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: more and more I engage with my girlfriends and women

857
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: that I've known who've been married or not married anymore,

858
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: or who are out here, They're like, I've got a big,

859
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: full life, and these are the things that I would love.

860
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: Women have advanced so far past men angel in terms

861
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: of the way they think, the terms of their money,

862
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: how they go after it to get it, Like, look

863
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: at you, you've you if you look at yourself and

864
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: you compared yourself to whoever was in the NBA in

865
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: terms of if they didn't have the money that you

866
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: know that they get for playing in the NBA. You

867
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: see how you've been able to reinvent yourself and go

868
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: after it and go after it and go after it.

869
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: It's rare to see that happen, that flexibility, that change,

870
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: and we have, for whatever reasons, we're just built differently,

871
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: and so what happens is is we start to outpace them,

872
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: not on purpose, but we just do. And we look

873
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: up and this is not my mother's era, this is

874
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: not my grandmother's era. We don't have to be married.

875
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't need an mrs. I would love one. I

876
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: would love to be in relationship with someone, but I

877
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: don't have to. I want to really like you first,

878
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you want to like them.

879
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: In addition, I don't need you to provide anymore. I

880
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: want to like you.

881
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: There you got so mom. You heard what Carrie just said.

882
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: Stop questioning me about getting married.

883
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: You heard her.

884
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: She just dropped a gem on y'all and to fellas,

885
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: y'all got to catch up, and not catch up financially,

886
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: but catch up mentally.

887
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 2: Correct always one is your mind, and you're.

888
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: So correct correct that money stuff is not even Can

889
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: I be honest? Let me just make sure I say

890
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: that again. The money stuff will come. But your mind.

891
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: If your mind, if you're so emotionally aware and your

892
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: EQ is off the charts, I'm in. I'm in. I

893
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: need to know I'm locked in. And that is so rare.

894
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: You don't find that. You don't find people who are

895
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: emotionally aware or their EQ is behind and you're bringing

896
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: them with you and you're trying to swallow.

897
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, Hello, mine is not Helena.

898
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So, so if you had to think about life

899
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: and for you in the next five years professionally, how

900
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: long would you do if someone calls you up and

901
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: says we need you back in the league. How long

902
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: would you play? As long as you could? Or you

903
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: would have just one year to retire?

904
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 3: Oh no, I got some years. When is the next

905
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 3: Olympics twenty twenty? Yeh, I at least can go into

906
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: the next Olympic.

907
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: That's what was that? Three years? Three four? I got?

908
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 2: I got that in the tank.

909
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. You under it. It's like, you know,

910
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: I feel like this, we're claiming it right now. Let

911
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: me just want to su we're claiming it right now.

912
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: This is happening. I like that we put it on

913
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: the podcast. I also want to tell everybody about your

914
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: casual film that you were doing a party for I

915
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: believe tomorrow. Tell me about the film. Yeah, the Casual Ye.

916
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: Guns, Yes by Gods is my first directorial debut. I

917
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: have the screening in Atlanta tomorrow. So I got that

918
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Red Offly fight tonight, the one I missed. I was

919
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: supposed to be in New York for you. So but yeah,

920
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 3: we're gonna just have some fun. The film is about

921
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: a young girl she develops a friendship with a guy

922
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: in the gym, but come to find out he did

923
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: something in his past that affects her in her family,

924
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: and when she finds out, it's going to be a

925
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: really big rift in their relationship. But we got to

926
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: figure out how they're going to make this mint. So

927
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: bye Gods, it's going to come out soon. I'm I'm

928
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: still in talks with distribution, so as we negotiate that,

929
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: we'll see. I'm thinking maybe Amazon, but we'll see. I'm

930
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: telling all the secrets.

931
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: But let's break some news.

932
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: Let's break some news.

933
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: I don't love how casually you're like, yeah, we're still

934
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: with distribution, but I did a film. Do you know

935
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: how amazing it is all the things that you've been

936
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: able to accomplish in such a short period of time,

937
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: and how casually you talk about it, like you're going

938
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: to the grocery store to get milk.

939
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: Really, you know what I think, because we're used to ourselves.

940
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: Even when I played basketball, I would score forty points.

941
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, he's like, yeah, you have forty nine.

942
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I didn't think it was enough. I'm

943
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: like it should have been I should have been better.

944
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's something in me that was

945
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: so hard on myself, but I do you right, I

946
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: do need to enjoy it more and just realize that

947
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: this is a big deal.

948
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: It's a huge deal. Congratulations, It's a huge deal. And

949
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: I also think and I also think this is my

950
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: one bit of advice. Still, let these teams know you ready,

951
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: like you might. They may see you do all this

952
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: other stuff and think that you've moved on. But you

953
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: they cannot put you in one They cannot put you

954
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: in one lane. You live in many lanes, and you

955
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: can do them all excellently. And I am so impressed

956
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: by you. I can't wait to I can't wait to

957
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: meet your next boo. I can't wait to see the

958
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: next see the next film project. And more importantly, I

959
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: still believe that there is space for you or the

960
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: w Is there anything else that you need to tell

961
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: us about before I let you go? Because you've been

962
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: so generous.

963
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, Carrie, thank you for having me on. Next time.

964
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: I got to come to the studio.

965
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: On person, because if you'd have been here, I would

966
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: have been punching you. When you start talking about boys,

967
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: I would have been punching. I would like it because

968
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm yeah you far away. I would have been like girl, no,

969
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: uh uh. And first of all, you are a good one.

970
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: You're you're mental and that's why I was like you.

971
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: You are much more mature than I am when it

972
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: comes to the fifty to fifty things. So that's why

973
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that. I often need I often

974
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: know I need some correction. So I love to hear

975
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: you say it.

976
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: Oh no, but you won't have a man that's gonna

977
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: take care of you. No, let's not get it. You

978
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 2: gonna you know, we got thank you. It's like il

979
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: NFL player.

980
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: I think the NFL players coming because you know, I

981
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: got a little bit of psychic ability.

982
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well can I get a retired one?

983
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: You want? Want you want? Want you want?

984
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to deal with a

985
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: twenty year old that I gotta fight that. I got

986
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: to be in the club fighting these girls trying to

987
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: try to take my man from it, and I gotta

988
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: be fighting. I put vacilina on my face and then

989
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: I gotta be fighting.

990
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna have to deal with that.

991
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody who got me with a with

992
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: a with a you know, I got a flashlight looking

993
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: for him in the day because I'm so sprung. Have

994
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: y'all seen him Harpo come home? Have you seen my

995
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: man when he angel? I adore you. Thank you for

996
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: joining us on the podcast. You are everything. Congratulations on

997
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: all your success and if you forgot of anything that

998
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: we need to add, please let me know. And good

999
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: luck tomorrow. By gones, y'all.

1000
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, y'all.

1001
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Speaker 1: Naked Sports written and executive produced by me Kerry Champion,

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00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,560
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