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Speaker 1: What is up? What is good? How you live and

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Speaker 1: how you feel and how you doing it? Is the

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Speaker 1: big podcast with Shack where we always do.

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Speaker 2: It big, especially in Abu Dhabi.

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Speaker 1: This man made his billions with tech in his hands,

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Speaker 1: turned passionate hub sold into Mavericks fans, from boardroom battles

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Speaker 1: to shark tank fame. He's never been one to play

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Speaker 1: the same game. Entrepreneur, investor. He does it all with flair.

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Speaker 1: If there's a deal on the table, you know he's

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Speaker 1: already there in the virtual Shahokah lounge today. Get ready

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Speaker 1: to one the only Mark Cuban.

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Speaker 3: That's great. I love that Mark wants.

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Speaker 2: You to send the video that you always used to play. Okay,

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Speaker 2: hey America, this is what Mark Cuban used to do

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Speaker 2: to me every time I came to balla fifteen years

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Speaker 2: on the free throw line. Here's the video already.

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Speaker 3: Shaq Albert, it was the best, Shack.

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Speaker 1: I know you have a bunch of questions, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like my question is, did you know you were

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Speaker 2: He was energetic, and he actually put Dallas on the map.

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Speaker 2: Dallas was actually a very fun city. But he would

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Speaker 2: like everything he did. It was sort of a new

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Speaker 3: No one remember, Shack didn't like me run at the beginning,

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Speaker 3: because this is when you were with Leonard, right a motto,

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Speaker 3: He just got lucky, and I came right back at him.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, you planned to grow to seven foot two,

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Speaker 2: But no, he's but he's been great. And I spilled

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. We tried a bunch of different ways.

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Speaker 3: We tried to trade for you. We tried to get

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Speaker 3: Well, there's two things there, right, so like I would

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Speaker 2: So Mark was speaking of revenues and you know, player contracts.

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Speaker 2: I had conversations with people on my office. They said,

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Speaker 2: all these guys get money. So my question is will

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Speaker 2: all the kids now, I said, you need to be

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Speaker 2: Lookan could be making one hundred and fifty. Manion.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as long as like with the TV deal

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Speaker 3: As long as that stays in place. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: So you get two or three of those back to back.

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Speaker 2: How long haven't many of your been friends since two thousand?

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Speaker 2: So this is about to sound weird, But I don't

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Speaker 3: Right, I'll give you the whole rundown shack. So I

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Speaker 3: But I got a job as a bartender at night

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Speaker 3: We're just dominating. We're broadcasting everything. You know again, we

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Speaker 3: We were doing it you. Yahoo comes along and says, Okay,

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Speaker 3: would smile. My friends would.

434
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Speaker 2: Going so so so. Mark, We've been friends for thirty years.

435
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: I owe you an apology. Because when you stepped on

436
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: the scene, it was like these kids they saw they

437
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 2: Internet company, and that's why I called you lucky. I

438
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 2: was like, this is lucky. Motherfucker just came back and

439
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: say I had no idea business school Indiana. So for mandom, man,

440
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 2: I apologize for calling you lucky.

441
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: Oh good shah. I loved it. I love when you

442
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: pick on me. I like if people fuck with me,

443
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 3: because as long as they let me fuck with funk

444
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 3: with them, that's that's the best thing ever.

445
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: The same way, man, you love when people coming.

446
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 2: What time is it?

447
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Speaker 1: It's game time.

448
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: Football season is finally here, which means endless NFL games

449
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Speaker 2: these next few months, and there's no better place to

450
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Speaker 2: get tickets than game Time. They make getting tickets fast

451
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: and easy. Maybe I'll hit up the Falcons games.

452
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Speaker 3: It's fall ah A.

453
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Speaker 2: Game Time has a new feature, game Time Picks, that

454
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: makes getting tickets for your games and live events even easier.

455
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Speaker 2: Game Time Picks filters out the fluff to show you

456
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Speaker 2: only incredible deals on great seats, so you don't have

457
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Speaker 2: to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. We're just

458
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Speaker 2: looking through the game Time at browsing options on game

459
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Speaker 2: Time Picks and while there was some amazing deals, might

460
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Speaker 2: even see me at the game. Really impressive how game

461
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Speaker 2: Time Picks just selects for the deal without you having

462
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Speaker 2: to waste any time digging around the curation makes it

463
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Speaker 2: easy to save more on football games or any other

464
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Speaker 2: event you want to go to. What I like about

465
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Speaker 2: the game Time app, aside from the new game Time

466
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Speaker 2: Picks feature, is all in pricing talking. This feature shows

467
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Speaker 2: with total upfront with no surprise fees to check out,

468
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Speaker 2: takes the guesswork out of buying tickets with game Time.

469
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Speaker 2: Just download the game Time app, create an account, use

470
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Speaker 2: code big Pile for twenty dollars off your first purchase

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Speaker 2: big Pod for twenty dollars off. Download game Time today.

473
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Speaker 2: Remember what time did I say?

474
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Speaker 3: It was game time?

475
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Speaker 2: So Mark, as I asked you this before, two questions One,

476
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: why did you sell the team? And do you miss it?

477
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: If you're allowed to talk.

478
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: About Yeah, I mean I sold the team for two reasons.

479
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: One my kids are fifteen, eighteen and twenty one now

480
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: right and it puts a lot of pressure on them

481
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: as I get older to make a decision are they

482
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: going to run the team. And it's worked out for

483
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: some families, right, Some guys have got their kids in

484
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: and it's turned out okay, and others the kids just

485
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 3: hate it, leave it, you know, resentful, And you know,

486
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to put my kids in that position.

487
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 3: And second, you know, I talked about being the tech

488
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 3: guy and the media guy and having an edge when

489
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: I first came in, like I knew shit, nobody else did,

490
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: so I always had an edge. And then now like

491
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: all the technology everything, everybody's got access to tech people

492
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 3: and it's hard to get an edge in tech. But

493
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: so what's happening now. You saw it with Golden State.

494
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: Now with Boston, teams just build, you know, they just

495
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: build all around the arena, and the arena becomes a

496
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: central point for some bigger real estate development. I don't

497
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: know shit about that. And so for me to say, Okay,

498
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to put up a billion dollars, you know,

499
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 3: even if I had to borrow it or whatever and

500
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: bring in a partner to run that shit for me,

501
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's a big ass risk, you know, And

502
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to put myself in that position of

503
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: having to learn a whole other industry or trust somebody.

504
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 3: I mean a hundred people will come in and say

505
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: I'll do it for you. And I know what I'm

506
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: doing and I can do all that, but I just

507
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: didn't want to be in that position of, you know,

508
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: not knowing and being able to control my own destiny.

509
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: So those are the two things. And in terms of

510
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: do I miss it, I'm still involved. I mean, I

511
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: don't have to do a lot now because things are

512
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: going well. You know, Nico's doing a great job. Jay

513
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: Kid's doing a great job. Just brought in Frank Fogel.

514
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 3: I mean, everything's rolling right now. So there's not a

515
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: whole lot for me to do except let everybody do

516
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 3: their job, you know, and hopefully they don't need me

517
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: to step in because that means something screwed up. And

518
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: so as long as things are rolling, I'm thrilled to death.

519
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: I go to the games, I go to get my

520
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 3: shots up before the game, and you know, hang out

521
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: and life is good.

522
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Our friends and ZIP recruit and want to know who

523
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: is the ultimate Maverick teammate of all time?

524
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: Sean Bradley. Sean Bradley, Sean Bradley, I love Sean Bradley.

525
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Have you heard of the Have you heard of the

526
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: Bari and Connie Foundation?

527
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 3: Uh?

528
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: Huh? Because because I saw Sean and I mentioned to him,

529
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: but I can't find these people.

530
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: So you know what happened to Sean when the last

531
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: time you saw him?

532
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw him, I want to say two years ago.

533
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: But there was this football player in Miami and he

534
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: has this spinal foundation. So anyway, he was paralyzed. He's

535
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: walking again. So I mentioned it to Sean and his wife.

536
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: But I can't remember the guy's name because I was

537
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: gonna try to, you know, hook him up and see

538
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: it and get done. Sean. Let me tell you something

539
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: about Sean. I used to mess with him. Was a

540
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: fine young gentleman nic. When I saw him a couple

541
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: of years ago, I was kind of sad, but he

542
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: still had that smile.

543
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: He still he did man for what you know, For

544
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: people don't know. He was riding the bike and got

545
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 3: hit by a car and got paralyzed initially from the

546
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: neck down, but now he's picked up movement in his

547
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: arms and everything, and so he's still wheelchair bound. But yeah,

548
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: he still got that spirit for sure. And his kids

549
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: and yeah, he's a good man.

550
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: What do you remember him as a teammate? Why was

551
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: he that ultimate?

552
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: Because he was Opie. You know, he was just the

553
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: guy who was unlike everybody else. He you know, he

554
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: stood out. He got so much grief before we traded

555
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: for him, even after we traded for him, and he

556
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: just kept a positive attitude. Guys liked him and he

557
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: was people don't recognize he was an amazing athlete. Like

558
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: when guys would play one on one, Sean would always win.

559
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Dirk, Finn Nash, it was Sean every time.

560
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: And he had he had everything, but he just didn't

561
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: have that killer instinct on the court. He wasn't going

562
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 3: to fight you. He might keep shot you, but he

563
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: wasn't going to fight you. But he's just got a

564
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: heart of gold and he stayed with it even after

565
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: he left. And now even after he's been gone, even

566
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: if he got injured, he's come back and done things

567
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: in the community and contributed. And you know, guys might

568
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: play five years if they're grade ten, fifteen years, and

569
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: so what you do the rest of your life, you know,

570
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: with the Mavericks or the organization you're part of, and

571
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: in your community, that's what makes you the ultimate teammate

572
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: because everybody's trying to figure things out while they're playing.

573
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 3: There's just so many issues that are happening, whether it's

574
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: your body, your team, your skill, the things you have

575
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: to improve, your family and all the external pressures. But

576
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: once you're done, and after you go through that acclimation

577
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: period that everybody struggles with, then that's who you really are.

578
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: That's what comes through then. And I think Shawn's really

579
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: been emblematic. I mean, Michael Finley has been great like that.

580
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I can go down a long but it's

581
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: the guys that just keep on giving back, Rolando Blackman

582
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: and Derek Harper. You know, what you do while you

583
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 3: were a player is one thing, But the other seventy

584
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: five years of your life, eighty years of your life,

585
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: that's really that's really who what shows who you are.

586
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: You You were at the forefront of video on the internet,

587
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: as you talked about in your story, and it's very

588
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: This is very personal to Shock and me, especially Shack

589
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: because he's been with TNT for twenty years. I'm just

590
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: curious your reaction as a fan at the thought of

591
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: the future of inside the NBA and how streaming focused

592
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: the product is going to be going forward.

593
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 3: I mean, this year is going to be weird. Obviously,

594
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: it's going to be like a farewell tour and that's

595
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: going to be kind of strange. But I think you

596
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: guys will get paid more. You know, I think just

597
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: the demand for known names and people that and content

598
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: creators and shows that people are confident and comfortable with.

599
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: That's invaluable, particularly to new streaming plat forms that are

600
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: trying to establish themselves. You know, if Apple ever goes

601
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: into it, boom, you guys are the perfect edition Amazon

602
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: trying to establish themselves. You know, they're gonna want no names,

603
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: and so you know, I think your guys are going

604
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: to be tripling the Tom Brady contract.

605
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Shack is going to be motherfucking Rudy go Bear numbers.

606
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: You bear, that's funny as hell.

607
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: Rudy Bear Shack ain't going nowhere.

608
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: No, But seriously, I think, you know, there's gonna be

609
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: so much There is already so much competition in scream

610
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: in streaming, and we're going through that transition where forever

611
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: linear television, traditional television was the king of the jungle,

612
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: but it was only you know, seven eight years ago,

613
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: where ESPN had one hundred and thirty million subscribers and

614
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: now it's like seventy million, and so you know it's

615
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: got to transition at some point. And you see Netflix

616
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: and who hasn't gotten into the NBA yet to kind

617
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: of teas they might. You see Amazon, you obviously got in.

618
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: You see Peacock through NBC, and so all these players.

619
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: It's like a death war between them. It's just like

620
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: ESPN versus all the TV networks were, but there's it's

621
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: just more competitive and streaming than it was in television

622
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: because in television, when you bought your cable package or

623
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: your satellite package, you just got everything.

624
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: Right.

625
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: Now, here's the one thing that's completely different that I

626
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: don't think people understand with streaming. You know how like

627
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: when you have your browser open, you can just jump

628
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: from window to window to window and it's just website

629
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 3: and that's no big deal. When streaming first started, you know,

630
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: Netflix and Peacock and all of them really started competing.

631
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: Remember they would make you buy a subscription for three years,

632
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: four years, whatever. Now they just want you to put

633
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: in your credit card and you can sign up for

634
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: one month for seven ninety five or ten ninety five.

635
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: So people are going to sign up for one month

636
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: and watch what they want, watch the game they want,

637
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: and then jump to somewhere else for something else. So

638
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, MAVs are playing you know, the Celtics again,

639
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 3: all right, I don't want to watch that one plus

640
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: one other MAVs game. I'll sign it. It's on Peacock.

641
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 3: I'll sign it for Peacock for a month, and then

642
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: I'll go watch you know whatever, my show is on

643
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: Netflix and I'll sign it for that and when I'm

644
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: done with Netflix for a month, if there's a good

645
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: So they're gonna be jumping back and forth. And the

646
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: important message there is content that keeps you coming back

647
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: is critical. And so that's why something like Inside the

648
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: NBA can keep people coming back because you have a

649
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: fan base that people want to stay connected to. And

650
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be really interesting to see

651
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: how the numbers all work out, because people are going

652
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: to churn on a monthly basis just to watch the

653
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: games they want to watch.

654
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: You said something ten years ago when I was covering

655
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I thought you were right, and I

656
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: want us to kind of relook at this hypothesis. You said,

657
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: pigs get fat and hogs gets spit slaughtered. And you

658
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: were saying it when the NFL was going on Thursday

659
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: and Saturday, and I agreed with you one hundred percent.

660
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: But since then it's going to complete other direction.

661
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: And now I was wrong with the preest thing.

662
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: What about the hypothesis?

663
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: Did you not see? So?

664
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: I thought that they would ask for so many nights

665
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: people get sick of them, sick of them, and that

666
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: it would push everything off to other platforms and the

667
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: NFL would basically be left alone on traditional television, which

668
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 3: is what's happening right now kind of right, all the money,

669
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: not all of the NBA got a fair amount, but

670
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: most of the money on traditional television is in the NFL. Like,

671
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: you know, like what I've learned was Shark Tank. There's

672
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: no more scripted television on linear television, you know, you

673
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: don't you don't think about a new scripted show coming

674
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: up on Tuesday nights anymore. It's all it's all you know,

675
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: older shows we met, you know, redone, redone shows and

676
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: then reality TV like Shark Tank. And so the cost

677
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: per episode is going down on regular TV, but the

678
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: cost for scripted television is going way up on streaming television,

679
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: on streaming TV. And so now you've got the NFL

680
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: whose mainstay, for the most part, for ninety percent of

681
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: their product is in the old school world. And it's

682
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: not to say that they're not they're not streaming anything,

683
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: but you've got to spend a boatload of money still

684
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: to be able to get access to your NFL tons tons.

685
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: So mark the Luca Mass. You guys got very very

686
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: close last year. Yeah, do you think the Mass will

687
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: win a championship doing the Luca Era?

688
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: I do, I really really do, because you know how

689
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: guys mature, and it takes some time to really go

690
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 3: through it, experience the ups and downs and recognize what's

691
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 3: really required of you. You know, it takes time, Like

692
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: you and Code went through it, you know, and you

693
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: mature different rates. And I think Luca's always been a

694
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: mature kid, but he hasn't always He's still learning the

695
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: team element of what it takes to win, how to

696
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 3: be a leader. It's not easy to be a leader

697
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 3: when you come in at you know, eighteen nineteen years old.

698
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: Now he's learned to become a leader. He's watched other teams.

699
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: He's talked to Kyrie, learning from Kyrie. Now he'll learn

700
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: more from Clay and he's so smart. He'll be able

701
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: to pull those pieces together, increase his leadership skills, keep

702
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: on making his game better if you can believe that.

703
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: And I think those pieces together will really lead us

704
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: on to a championship.

705
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: You know, first he went in like Marcus when you

706
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: said Luca was better than Derek. You need to stop it.

707
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: I'll never say that again.

708
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: I know, I know you killed me. Dirk agrees with me.

709
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: You know, Dirk is the best ever for the MAVs.

710
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: You still had to get him the ball, you know,

711
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: and that was the difference, whereas Luca, he just put

712
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands and no one else has

713
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: to be on the court. Stop it, Mark, I'm just

714
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: telling you stop in.

715
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: Mark, look dark and Weisky is the best battery player ever.

716
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: Derek is my guy and always will be. That's why

717
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: I build a statue, the best statue for every any

718
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: athlete ever, and it's gonna.

719
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: Sit right second best statue to stop.

720
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: That best statue ever.

721
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: In the topic of a championship. I when I was

722
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: doing NFL, I remember a former GM told me that

723
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: there's only eight teams in the NFL that are actually

724
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: trying to win a championship. The rest are just making money.

725
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: We see rookies all the time. If they get drafted

726
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: like Lively to the MAVs, you pair them up with

727
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Tyson Chandler, you develop, You see the happiness, they grow,

728
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: what you've done with Kyrie. There's a culture there that

729
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: allows people to grow. How many franchises do you really

730
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: think are actively trying to win the championship in the NBA?

731
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: Like this season?

732
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's weird because in the NBA it's

733
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: a lot more now because the teams are so good. No,

734
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: there's more than five. Shock now, how many can win?

735
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: How many can actually win? Probably?

736
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: How many are like like.

737
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Boston, Milwaukee, Philly, mm hmmm, Phoenix, maybe.

738
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: Denver and Dallas, Denver, Mendos a lot better now Minnesota, Minnesota,

739
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: for better or worse.

740
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: The Knicks are better.

741
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: The Knicks are now. Maybe they might not, maybe they're

742
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: not mature enough to win a championship yet. But here's

743
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 3: the way I look at I look at the other

744
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: side of it, like, how many teams do you just

745
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 3: want to play? How many teams are homecoming teams every game,

746
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: and there's not a lot of them. I mean, what's

747
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: the kid's name that will just say Cooper Flag? Right,

748
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams in the Cooper Flag straft running,

749
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: but I don't think there's more than seven or eight

750
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: teams that are really, you know, shooting for Cooper Flag.

751
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: All right, So the guy the year you guys went

752
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: to the finals and played us and then you came

753
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: back and beat Lebronos. Guys, did you know did you

754
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: know you can win the championship?

755
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: And let me tell me, you ever thought we were

756
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: gonna win that championship.

757
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: So the reason why I just name those five or

758
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: sixteen because they know the other teams you mentioned, a

759
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: lot of shit has to go on for second, that's true,

760
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: that's true. You know the teams that I name know

761
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: that they can win the championship.

762
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent true. Yeah, things have to work

763
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 3: for the other teams. They know they can be good

764
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 3: and get into the playoffs, maybe get to the second round.

765
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: And if they looks like us last year, I'd be lying.

766
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: If I thought I'd said we were going to run

767
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: to the finals, there was no way we were twenty

768
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: six and twenty three. You did it? You knew right,

769
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: we were twenty six and twenty three, and it was like,

770
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: what's what really changed our season is Jay Kidd and

771
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 3: Nico and us. We made the decision that d Live

772
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: or Daniel Gafford had to be on the court at

773
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: all times, so excuuse me. So we always had a

774
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: rim protective. That was the difference. Once we got somebody

775
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: that Luca could and Kai could always throw the ball

776
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: to and we could defend and we had someone guarding

777
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: the rim, that just changed our destiny for last year.

778
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: But you're right, you know, we started believing after we

779
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: won that first series against Los Angeles and then it

780
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 3: was like, okay, you got to stop us. We're not

781
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: going to stop ourselves.

782
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: How different is the NBA without woj.

783
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 3: It's going to be different. I give them a lot

784
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: of credit to just make them life saying no, no,

785
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: you don't think it'll be any different.

786
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: Wolch was just a well respected guy. And when you

787
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: respect somebody and you share certain information with them and

788
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: that like for example, me and Mark have had many conversations,

789
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 2: like for example, only me and Martin. I was trying

790
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: to get the Masks. I didn't say nothing about twenty

791
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: years LA trust and that type of integrity. Wolves had

792
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 2: high integrity and high trust. There's a lot of guys

793
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: that's going to be taking this position, and with all

794
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: this stuff a guy going on the way technology gets around,

795
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot more guys with access to them.

796
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sham's is good too, obviously, and so I mean,

797
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: but you know, on the roads thing, more respect for

798
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: him going what was it Bonneville or Saint Bonaventure rather

799
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: or you know, to be the GM. And what was

800
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: interesting to me, like I would talk to Scott Dolson,

801
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: who was the athletic director still is of Indiana University,

802
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: and literally when right before Mike Woodson took over, I'm like,

803
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: we need a general manager. That's what's missing in college

804
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: basketball because it's hard for a college coach to recruit

805
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: and do all the stuff you need to do, especially

806
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: with nil and deal with all that stuff. You truly

807
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: need a general manager to manage all the things. Like

808
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: in an NBA squad and they brought in I forget

809
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 3: the name of the guy they brought in from Ohio State.

810
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: We stayed a couple of years and then went somewhere else,

811
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: but just doing that, and so for Woes to come

812
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: in and recognize that, Okay, this is a new type

813
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: of position for college basketball, and I'm going to fill

814
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: that spot. He deserves a lot of credit for that.

815
00:39:59,680 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: Shack.

816
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: I've watched a lot of Shark Tank and Mark doesn't

817
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: want to get involved unless he's getting twenty percent of equity.

818
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: So I'm curious, Mark, what do you what would you

819
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: value twenty percent of Shock at these days? I mean

820
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: Shock Enterprises, Shack Enterprises three billion, four billion.

821
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: My shes the gummies. I'm going big, but I'm shocked.

822
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 3: The DJ is where the money's at, Shack. The DJ

823
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: is the real deal. That's where you know. Do you

824
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: guys have merch people that travel around with you when

825
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: you go to these places.

826
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: No, because I didn't want to, because I'm a guy

827
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: like I like to have fun, but I don't like

828
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: to really take advantage of people.

829
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean it's not taking advantage. I mean

830
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: you had Shack Delicious t shirts up there, and you

831
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: know post some of your mixes. You're good, you know,

832
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: I sat literally and listened to one of my friends

833
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: was at one of your gigs and he's just facetiming

834
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: me the whole time and just listening. I mean, you know,

835
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: it's fun watching the highlights. I started when I had

836
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: that bar. I used to DJ all the time, so

837
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 3: I respective now with the technology, it's a different beast.

838
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: Shark Tank Barkley was on Shark Take one dime and

839
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: he invested in something called sub safe.

840
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're doing well, No they're not stopping. That's I

841
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: got one right over there.

842
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: What is it? So?

843
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: What it is?

844
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: Me and Charles went in on it. It's like a

845
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: tube and yeah for the sandwich, for the sandwiches. When

846
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: you're on a boat and you can put drinks, you

847
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: could put salads.

848
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: In there, you can put what sub safe?

849
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: Everybody go out there Google sub say by going's Amazon

850
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: sub safe, s U B s A.

851
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: He wants to rub in the ring. No, the ring was.

852
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: I still would not do ring. I would not do

853
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: mar No. I'm gonna tell you why. There are certain

854
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: there's there are certain deals where you have to raise

855
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars in order to do tens

856
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: of millions in sales, and either you get an exit

857
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: and someone buys you, and then you look really really smart,

858
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 3: and Jamie's smart. Don't get me wrong, He's really really smart.

859
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: But if you don't get that exit, it's over. And

860
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: I just don't like to invest in companies like that.

861
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: That's no knock on Jamie, and that's no longer. You know,

862
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: he'd had a great, great, great rate exit. But I

863
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: still would say no because in order for that thing

864
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: to scale, they would have to and they did have

865
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: to raise a shitload of money.

866
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: So when I go I went to an investment strategy

867
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: thing one time, and Jeff Base was with them. Because

868
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: I made a lot of terrible investments. I'm a basketball player.

869
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: I didn't go to bench shack. I heard Jeff say,

870
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: if you invest in things that's going to change people's lives,

871
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: the ROI will always be amazing, right, So I'm thinking, right,

872
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: this is affordable security that comes to your phone. Everybody

873
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: likes it. So when I saw the episode, kind of

874
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: forgot about it the way and then I was invested

875
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: by and I bought it right and I liked it

876
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: because it's dummiproof hooked it up myself.

877
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: It's easy, Yeah, it's easy.

878
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: And Mark I was in China, China, and a dude

879
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: came to my house and George nobody to come to

880
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: my house because I lived on thirty age. I get to

881
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: the gate, kid, compligate and you run the bell. I

882
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: was like in China, I was like, Rain, what is this?

883
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: I was like, this is amazing. So then I'm made

884
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: contact with General and then you know, I don't want

885
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: to say I was the one to help them get

886
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: that EXX.

887
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: Know what you did, your ads and everything, for sure,

888
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 3: and you help them get that exit. I'm sure too,

889
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: you know, but that's what it takes because just because

890
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: us looking at it, I was like, this thing's going

891
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: to need so much money. You know, if I give

892
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: him seven hundred grand or whatever for ten percent, by

893
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: the time it's all done, my seven hundred grand will

894
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: be worth point zero zero one percent. And so you know,

895
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 3: and I thought it was fifty to fifty at best

896
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: that it would work. But you took him over the

897
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: finish line, Shack. That's what you do.

898
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Mark hypothetical question. NBA gets two more teams of order.

899
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: People are talking smack to you. Your kids say, Dad,

900
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: we love you. On one that we got our own careers. Dad,

901
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: you got some money in the bank, you got some

902
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: other partners with me, Yeah, you do it again.

903
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: Have to make it okay with my current partners. But yeah,

904
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: if my kids were like, all right, we're set, we

905
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: don't you know, that's not what we want or whatever,

906
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: and it was shack, But yeah I would. I would.

907
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: I would look at making a comeback, but out of

908
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: respect to my partners, I'd have to check with them first.

909
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: Well, we could buy your partners out.

910
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: Now that's not it, right, that's not they could buy

911
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: me out as we would happen. But no, I just

912
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: just the way I do business, I always want to

913
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: be respectful for anybody who took care of me, and

914
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: so that's what it would take. But yeah, it would

915
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: be interesting. Now you talk about a movie like would

916
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: you go in with Lebron or know Lebron?

917
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: I would because you know, I'm I'm the type of

918
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: owner that I let people run it. You see what

919
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I do have the ability to run it.

920
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: But if I ever owned the team, I would want

921
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: to be more like Jerry West used to do and

922
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: just you know, just sit there in my arms crossing

923
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: and then you know, if I'm gonna say something, i'd

924
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: say something around the team and closed door meetings. You

925
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: were very hands on. I don't think I have enough

926
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: time and my business go to be hands I would

927
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: just tough. It's so to answer your question, I would

928
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: love to go on with Lebron.

929
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: So you know, we get me you Lebron. We go

930
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: to HBO, we get them to do a behind the

931
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: scenes move show right and put up a chunk of

932
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: the money. Or we go to Disney since they're an

933
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 3: NBA partner, and we get them to put up a

934
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: ton of the money for it. We might have something there, Okay.

935
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: Viva Las Vegas, Viva Las Vegas. Where's Seattle?

936
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: So Mark Shack and I have been wanting to do

937
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: this for a long time, and I thought you were

938
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: the perfect person to make it our first episode of

939
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: WPS or BPS. Shack, do you want to tell them

940
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: what that means?

941
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: BPS central Black people shit and wps's the white people shit.

942
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So I have different objects and stuff. Shack is

943
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: very unique.

944
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: You know what.

945
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: Now, now I've got myself nervous about what we were

946
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: just talking about with the team because I know that's

947
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: going to get picked up everywhere and talked about everywhere.

948
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to do it and if I did anything,

949
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: most likely I would just help for a little bit

950
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: and then turn it over to you and Lebron or whatever.

951
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to for all the reasons I mentioned before.

952
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to get it. But it would be

953
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: fun to help an expansion team, that's for sure. Okay, BPS,

954
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: that was white people shit. You just exactly.

955
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: All right?

956
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 3: Mark?

957
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: How about you? What you're gonna do is you're gonna

958
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: guess whether or not shack things. It's white people shuit

959
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: or black people shit. So the first one is the

960
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: first one is Twizzlers.

961
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's black people shit. Man, that's old.

962
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna tell you why, because I know the

963
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: Twizzlers that I like. But then there's another type of

964
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: Swizzlers that taste totally different. So yeah, red vines. Which one?

965
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Do you like?

966
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 3: The Black ones or the red ones? Oh?

967
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: No, I like the black twists.

968
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: Oh see that's the difference. That's what That's why I'm

969
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: saying white people don't like the black ones. We like

970
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: the red ones.

971
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Am I right? Yeah, you're right, that's amazing. I do

972
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: like the red ones.

973
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 3: Do you know anybody who likes the black ones?

974
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't.

975
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: Like thank you very much, ding.

976
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: Ding ding it. Don't label them as the black ones.

977
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, only Shack stop talking about the Twizzlers, the Twizzlers.

978
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: Orange juice with with pulp? Mark, is that white people

979
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: ship or black people ship?

980
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: W PS? That's w PS with pulp.

981
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: I hate paulp WS.

982
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, Paul, I don't like when I drink. I

983
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: don't like ship on my clips.

984
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say a word, not gonna say a.

985
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: Word at all.

986
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Okay, A harmonicas Okay, So Shack's just gonna answer you

987
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: think it's white Harmonica's white people.

988
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: I could go with that. Yeah, I can go with that.

989
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: I think it goes both ways. Though.

990
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: No, oh, man, have.

991
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: You never watched Stevie Wonder?

992
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

993
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one guy.

994
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: That's the guy.

995
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: That's the guy.

996
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: He is the guy. Mark. I tell this story all

997
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: the time. People don't believe me. So me and Stevie

998
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: live in the same building in La I'm already in

999
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: the elevator. He comes in, he says, what's up, Shock,

1000
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: and he hits it. But I tell the story. I'll

1001
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: tell people. You're fucking like bro. He used to he

1002
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: used to be next to me all the time. And

1003
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: I always say, what's up? Shock true story?

1004
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: I believe it. I believe it.

1005
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Frosted flakes, Mark, WPS or BPS, I.

1006
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: Think that's WPS. Whats No, you can't take your frosted flakes, Shack.

1007
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: I grew up every morning on that.

1008
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: You think, do you want me to go show you

1009
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: my box? I got it box right, the frosted flakes,

1010
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: the frost flex. I'm going to jail for this interview.

1011
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, one last one because I know Shaq

1012
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: has been in one of these slingshot those three wheel vehicles.

1013
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 1: White people should a black people shoot?

1014
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

1015
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: BPS, I'll go with that. Okay, that was our first try.

1016
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: We're going to iron it out. But I'm glad.

1017
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: That's a tough game to play. That's a no win game.

1018
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: That is a no win game. But it's funny as hell.

1019
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: Mark. Do you give out full sized candy bars for Halloween?

1020
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Is that your vibe?

1021
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: Are you the cool?

1022
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,959
Speaker 3: Nobody in our We get nobody at our house?

1023
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: Nobody.

1024
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of like shack spot, right. We've got people

1025
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 3: around it and there's like six miles between every house,

1026
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 3: so it's not like a target rich environment for candy.

1027
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna say you can give out the Shack

1028
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: Delicious candies.

1029
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: I would definitely give out the Shack Delicious candies and.

1030
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: All the people that know about Shack Delicious. These are

1031
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: not weed gummy. Stop asking question. We know they are not.

1032
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: These are for young people that like to have fun.

1033
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: Does have weed in it?

1034
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: No weed gummy? Shack White people shop or black people should.

1035
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: Oh wps So mark uh last question, will let you go.

1036
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: We want to thank you for being to appreciate it.

1037
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: Donald's and sens question. You know, most people, especially my family,

1038
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: they think money can solve all your problems. So my

1039
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: question is, what's the biggest lesson you've learned about money

1040
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 2: and being wealth.

1041
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 3: If you were happy when you were broke, you'll be

1042
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: really happy when you're rich. If you were a mess

1043
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: when you were broke, you're going to stay a mess

1044
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: no matter how much money you have. And that's hard.

1045
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, that that is the truth.

1046
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: It's the truth because if you heard everything about your possession,

1047
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: then you lose the possession you have nothing.

1048
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1049
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean the people who have had their back up

1050
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: against the wall appreciate it the most. The people who

1051
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: you know just got it or had to give it

1052
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: to them. You know, it's just just one more thing

1053
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 3: they've been given. And so you don't you haven't been

1054
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 3: through you know, being broke. Being broke is not fun.

1055
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 3: But if you can figure out how to just enjoy

1056
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: your life when you are and when you get money,

1057
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: everything's easy at that point. If you can't have fun

1058
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: at that point, something wrong.

1059
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: One more questions, Mark, because you know how I've always

1060
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: been to business, Well, try to be a business man.

1061
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: Let's say I'm Luca, right, and you're going to pay

1062
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: me eighty man a year. Could I say, just pay

1063
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: me twenty and put that sixty year in an investment

1064
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: that's going to yield me four percent or more. Yeah,

1065
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: that's allowed.

1066
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it taxed.

1067
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean depends on how you structure it. So

1068
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: there's well the new CBA. I don't know for sure.

1069
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't want it, like you know, you're supposed to

1070
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: pay me eighty and twenty five.

1071
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 3: I don't want a just defer the payment. So you

1072
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: could defer the payment and put it into some type

1073
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: of you know, money market account or bond or whatever

1074
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 3: is doing. Tony is doing something similar like to that. Yeah,

1075
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: Now I don't know. I can't tell you for sure

1076
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: that it's tax free and then it's all tax deferred,

1077
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: but I think it can be.

1078
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: Man, I wish I was playing right now.

1079
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you inside the NBA is going to

1080
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: give bags.

1081
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Speaker 2: I love that Mark and this all right, this is

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Speaker 2: the last question, brou You hear the go conversation, right,

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Speaker 2: and really doesn't matter to me who you pick, because

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Speaker 2: I think that all the names are great. But why

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00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: has it gone from Michael to Lebron with no mention

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00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: of Kobe? Why do you think that is? And it

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00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: pisses me off, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't have a good answer for you, Shaq,

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Speaker 3: Like I.

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Speaker 2: Would rather hear all the names that are are are

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Speaker 2: eligible and then whoever you pick your pitch.

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Speaker 3: And to me, I always look at it as it

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00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 3: depends on the team you're putting them on. I mean,

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00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: there's no goat that plays one against five. And so

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00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 3: you know, I've always felt Kobe and Michael were finishers,

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Speaker 3: but you had to have a team that does everything else,

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00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: whereas Lebron is an enabler that makes everybody on the

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00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 3: team better than those other guys do or did, right,

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Speaker 3: And so you really you got to tell me who

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00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: else is on the team, and I'll tell you who

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Speaker 3: the goat is for that team.

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Speaker 2: You know, like I always said, Look, Mike, Lebron and Kobe,

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00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: they were all great, but just have a fair conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Hey, do you realize how close we

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00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: were to trading for Kobe in two thousand and seven?

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00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was like literally disclosed. I talked

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00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: to Jerry Buss and worked something out with Jerry, and

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00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 3: then Mitch talked him out of it, and because Kobe

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00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: wanted it. It was two thousand and seven, and I

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00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: remember it vividly because I was doing Dancing with the

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Speaker 3: Stars and there was this pa named Elvis who was

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00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: just Kobe, Kobe, Kobe, Kobe Kobe all day, every day,

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00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 3: Laker's going to kick your ass. MAVs suck all that shit, right,

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Speaker 3: And so it came up talking to Jerry because Kobe

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00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: had asked to leave, and Jerry said, Okay, if you

1116
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: want to leave, we'll take care of a genie and everything,

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00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: And so I talked to him and it was going

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00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: to be Josh Howard and Jason Terry and picks and

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00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: no dirt, because I said, anybody but dirt. And so

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Speaker 3: I literally remember telling this dude, Elvis, guess what, Kobe's

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00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 3: going to be a math And I literally thought it

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00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: was done, like for sure. And then Mitch Kupchek obviously

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Speaker 3: stepped up and said, we can't do this, talk Kobe

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Speaker 3: out of it, and the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: So you're told me, there's this guy named Elvis that

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00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: all of his friends thinks he's full of shit for

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00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: the last twenty years because he's like, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: Kobe's going to MAVs and it never happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Elvis, good dude.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, Mark, thank you. I'm hearing Abodabi

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Speaker 2: about to go check out.

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Speaker 3: This game, all right, man to enjoy the game, all right,

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Speaker 3: thank you, appreciated, guys. You guys, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Doctor shaquillro o nell and this is your daily court

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Speaker 2: of the day. If you have to validate yourself to people,

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Speaker 2: are you really being validated? What should you heardy be

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Speaker 2: validated by the people?

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Speaker 1: Big fellow, Mark Cuban is the man. You don't You

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Speaker 1: don't meet a lot of owner slash governors that think

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Speaker 1: like that. That was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Actually you are the man too. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: what I'm hearing Abodabi handling some business in this preseason

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Speaker 2: Boston and Denver. I think the scores. I think somebody

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Speaker 2: won one o seven, one oh three. I was supposed

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Speaker 2: to go to the game. I skipped the game because

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Speaker 2: they said, hey, you gotta do the podcast and my

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Speaker 2: boy Adam Shane, I'm gonna skip the game. I may

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Speaker 2: go to the next one. Actually know, I'm gonna probably

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Speaker 2: go home tomorrow because, like I said, I'm doing a

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Speaker 2: lot of business over here, so I wanted to make

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Speaker 2: sure I get done.

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Speaker 1: So if only you were getting frequent flyer miles, that

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Speaker 1: would be about.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Check airlines. Oh really, yes, really?

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Speaker 1: So I can't gamble on Sheck Airlines. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you can gamble on Abu Dhabi. But our friends

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Speaker 1: at DraftKings want us to chime in. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to do you want to gamble on NFL first or

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Speaker 1: do you want to pick the better touchdown celebrations?

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Speaker 2: Let's whatever you like.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Okay, We're gonna gamble first two games this upcoming

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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: Sunday that I'm curious what you think coming off off

1163
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: that game against the Steelers, Detroit favored by three at

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's not going to happen. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Cow Cowboys are And I kind of know what what

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Speaker 2: Dak is going through. You get a big contract, you

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Speaker 2: play for America's team. Everybody's had what your record doesn't

1169
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: show for. So when your record doesn't show for pound Pauls,

1170
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: everybody's coming at you talking crap talking. And I saw Dak,

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Speaker 2: I think after one game go to the lot go

1172
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: on his way to lock him. He said, you can

1173
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: jump off the van wagon, which means he's starting to

1174
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 2: get a little bit more focused, right, And so I think,

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00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of pressure. It's always pressure

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Speaker 2: on the guy with this type of pressure, not really

1177
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: playing well at home. One thing you want to do

1178
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: will be a great team. You got to get the

1179
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: home crowd on his side. So I think he's gonna

1180
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: come in and busting that. So I'm going with the

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00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: Cowboys by two touchdowns.

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00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: This other matchup is one that preseason didn't look as

1183
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: good and now as Electric Washington suddenly the toast of

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00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: the NFC East, led by former LSU Tiger Jaydon Daniels,

1185
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: who's been incredible, going to Baltimore to take on Lamar Jackson.

1186
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: So it is the future and the current reigning MVP.

1187
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: So Jaydon Daniels against Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. Baltimore's favored

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00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: by about a touchdown.

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00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: What do you think? Love Lamar Jackson, big fan of his,

1190
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna have to go with the LSU. And

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: I owe him an apology because actually too, because last

1192
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: year I went to watch him play versus Alabama. I

1193
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Speaker 2: don't know how quarterbacks were supposed to look, but he

1194
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: looks like a little baby out there.

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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: He's very skinny, very.

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Speaker 2: Skinny, and I'm looking at the Alabama defensive line. I

1197
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: was like, thin, if I have to kill this kid,

1198
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: but they can never catch him. And we won that

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Speaker 2: game for us. And I actually put a bet on

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Speaker 2: the game. And I want big against one of my

1201
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: guys is now big time LIGU and I'm not who

1202
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: actually you know, actually does working out on them. I'm

1203
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to go Washington. He's playing very well. I

1204
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna take him a year or two

1205
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: to get adjusted again to the size of the NFL,

1206
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: but this kid is dominating. I'm happy for him. LSU

1207
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: all the way we're gonna win by a field goat wow.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to my guy, Cliff Kingsbury.

1209
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Speaker 2: Doing it right, all right.

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Speaker 1: So my other question, DraftKings. They love to celebrate some

1211
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: touchdown celebrations, and because you are you know mister Dallas,

1212
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: I was curious what was a better celebration from Terrell Owens.

1213
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: Was it a when he took the pomp bombs and

1214
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: then when got the popcorn and did that after a touchdown?

1215
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: Or was it when he was actually on the Niners

1216
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: against Dallas and did the polls on the Star and

1217
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: George Tige had to knock him out with Emmitt Smith.

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Speaker 2: That would that would be my number two, my number one,

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: number one, My number one would be Shoppy when he was.

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Speaker 1: Against the Seahawks and he reached in, signed the football

1221
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: and gave it to a fan.

1222
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Speaker 2: How do you play with a sharpie four downs and

1223
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: then score that that? Let me tell you that that

1224
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: right there is ultimate confidence. Put the just lead to them.

1225
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: When I score, I'm gonna sign the ball and give

1226
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: it to a So.

1227
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Speaker 1: What was better that? Or when Joe Horn put the

1228
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: cell phone under the goalpost and then got it out

1229
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: afterwards and was calling God saying thank you for my gifts.

1230
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go with cell phone.

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need something like that. In the n B

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Speaker 1: A like I, there's just no there's no moment that's

1233
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: like a touchdown where everything stops. But I would love

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00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: if somebody like lift up their shirt and had a

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Speaker 1: message or something like that.

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Speaker 2: My favorite one was the Baron Davis Bill. Remember show

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Speaker 2: if he had if he had the gut buster.

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