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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer. Hawks Live every Thursday from

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Speaker 1: Century League. I am with Paul Moyer. I am Michael

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Speaker 1: Bumpus seven o'clock right here on seven ten ESPN, and

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Speaker 1: we're doing something we haven't done this year, Paul. That

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Speaker 1: is talk about the Seahawks taking a loss. They lost

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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals an ot. You can say what you want.

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Speaker 1: Russell wasn't throw three pigs, didn't have his best game,

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Speaker 1: but still made an incredible throws. Locket played well, but

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Speaker 1: that was after a lost. DK didn't get the ball

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Speaker 1: the way we thought he was gonna get the ball.

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Speaker 1: You got running backs going down. It sounded like a

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Speaker 1: typical Seahawks loss. You got all you got injuries, and

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Speaker 1: you have Russell not playing well. Yeah, I played ten

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Speaker 1: with six minutes left in the game. And you know

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Speaker 1: some people say, well, there was three minutes left and

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Speaker 1: they were up by ten. Well, yeah, they scored, you know,

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Speaker 1: with three minutes left, but you know they were up

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Speaker 1: when they had got the football. It was around five

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Speaker 1: I think five or six minutes left up by ten,

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Speaker 1: double digit leads. Again, that's a fourth maybe the every game,

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Speaker 1: but Minnesota, we've got a double digit lead. So I

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Speaker 1: think it was disappointing because I really felt we were

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Speaker 1: a better team than Arizona, and I still believe that

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Speaker 1: even after that game. I felt we played pretty good

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Speaker 1: are gonna go what, and I go, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: we played good in spurts. It's just the key, the

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Speaker 1: really important moment in the games. We didn't and you know,

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Speaker 1: I throw somewhere out there. You know, we've got a

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Speaker 1: third and four, third and five, we're off the field.

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Speaker 1: They call roughing on on Bobby Wagner was. I thought

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Speaker 1: that it was a horrible call. Um. We were up

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Speaker 1: you know, illegally. It's not just a penalty, it's a

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Speaker 1: fififteen yard penalty. And so now they go down and

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Speaker 1: score a touchdown. That complained to me, that's that is

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Speaker 1: the ball game there, because now you're forcing our offense

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Speaker 1: to get two first downs. Tough to do when they're

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Speaker 1: really forcing the issue on you, you know, with everybody

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Speaker 1: a man coming off the corner tough to do. We

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have lost that game. Even the interceptions, well, the

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Speaker 1: first two interceptions, it didn't even hurt the Seahawks, as

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Speaker 1: weird as that is. I mean, that first one we

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Speaker 1: the time, I think it was thirteen to seven. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, they go all the way down, they

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Speaker 1: don't score. We go right back and score. We drive

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Speaker 1: ninety five ninety six yards. The next one, same thing,

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Speaker 1: they don't score. They throw an interception in the very

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Speaker 1: next play. So they didn't hurt us other than momentum.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're up twenty to seven. You're really having

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Speaker 1: your way with them. That's a big thing. The last

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Speaker 1: one obviously hurt, you know, he just misread that. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say it was a simple zone blitz.

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Speaker 1: I actually think what Arizona did. Lots of teams run

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Speaker 1: these zone blitzes. They get three linebackers up on line scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: they dropped them. What made that work is the way

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Speaker 1: they executed on looking up wide receivers. There was nobody

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Speaker 1: to throw too. Yeah, and they had a guy free

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Speaker 1: so so disappointing bumping that. I thought we played well

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Speaker 1: He ran a lot of crossing routes. I liked that

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it was necessarily something the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: the greatest wide receiver game. To Sia Kiss, you told

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Speaker 1: me that on Sunday. I've been backing you up all week.

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Speaker 1: Tell the people why you think it's the greatest performances

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Speaker 1: he was one feeding me all the notes Sunday. The

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Speaker 1: so Steve Largent and Jeff Kemp had crossed the picket

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Speaker 1: So it was it was, you know, men amongst boys

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Speaker 1: And Tyler Lockett tied a Seahawk record fifteen receptions. Was

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Speaker 1: Steve Largent who did it against replacement players and he

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Speaker 1: depth is important. Is that? But if I'm playing a

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Speaker 1: And it's got to be trusting the past. Rush gotta

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Speaker 1: or there's too much time they're running these deep crosses.

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Speaker 1: It's just got to all clean up or we're gonna

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Speaker 1: struggle when we get to playoff time. There's a phrase

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Speaker 1: that comes to mind when you talk about that spot drop.

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Speaker 1: No more spot dropping, you gotta drop in fine work.

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Speaker 1: Paul by way, do you know who this is? Yes,

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Speaker 1: our boy the weekend. Oh but you got it. Let's go, Paul.

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, so they I got some

426
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Speaker 1: brushed up. Paul's ready to go. Yeah, you know he's

427
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: ready to go. I do. And he played unbelievable last week,

428
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: so I'm excited we got him on the show. Jordan Brooks,

429
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 1: how you doing, man, I'm doing fine, man. Thanks for

430
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 1: having no problem. Man. Now, before we get into all

431
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: this football stuff, I see from Agetown, Man, Agetown put

432
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: off some rappers. Who's your favorite rapper from Agetown? Oh,

433
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: that's a tricky one. Put me on this. But everyone

434
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: from Houston, I'd probably have to say, uh, zero zero

435
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 1: in the city you got, Well, what do you think said?

436
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm in the country. I don't wrap. I would have

437
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: thrown you off there, but then I would ask them

438
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: who your favorite country artists? You know? Jordan, By the way,

439
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: congratulation last week. You know, know the victory wasn't there

440
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: for you guys, but you you played well, and uh,

441
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: you know what's interesting about rookies is and we've all

442
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 1: gone through this and that we think, you know, where

443
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 1: we don't get to react, where we're thinking about our

444
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 1: reads and everything. Last week you look like you were reacting. Uh.

445
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: It felt like a huge jump from just the first

446
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: game you played to where you were today. How did

447
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: that feel for you? In this game? So good? Um?

448
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: You know it all started two weeks prior, you know,

449
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: just the time I had being hurt, and then the

450
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: body week. You know, I've got an extra week to prepare. Um.

451
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: And then also during the week, you know, with Bobby

452
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: kJ coaches, everybody who was just you know, on board

453
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: as far as just helping me, you know, with the

454
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: play boat, helping me with the plays and and what's

455
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: a lookout for and what to expect. And I just

456
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: still prepare going into the game. You know, Jordan coming

457
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: into this draft, and when the Seahawks picks you up,

458
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: every said, well, they don't know if he can play

459
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: past defense or cover. And it was mainly because of

460
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: the scheme you were at Texas tax and you know

461
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: I would said, well, he's certainly athletic enough, and he's

462
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: a good football player. He'll figure it out. What impressed

463
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: me the most last week watching you was how you

464
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: were picking up receivers in the passing game and the

465
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: zone and reading reading routes. Uh is one Is that

466
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: more comfortable to you now or is this still a

467
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: bit of a learning progress? For you. You know, it

468
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: definitely something that just comes naturally. You know, I didn't

469
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: do it a lot tech, but I've been playing football

470
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: my whole life. You know, it all starts backyard football.

471
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, you're playing faithy, you're playing cornerback, playing quarterbacks,

472
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: playing everything. So it's something that's just natural. It's just

473
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: something I wasn't doing in college. So you know, people

474
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: raised their eyebrows, raised questions whatnot. But something comes naturally.

475
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm definitely capable of doing it and just trying to

476
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: continue to get better. How are your hands? You got

477
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: good hands, So when the ball hits your mets, are

478
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: you catching it and go in the distance? Oh? Yeah,

479
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: for sure. I used to play running back, so I'm

480
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: trying to get me a trying to give me an

481
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: interceptions and show up some skills. Good Paul. All the

482
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: great athletes play running back at some point in their career. Right, Jordan,

483
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Speaker 1: what do you feel is the best part of your

484
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: game right now? Then? What do you feel like you

485
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: need to work on the best part? That's the trick

486
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: question as well. I'd probably say just you know, tackling.

487
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm a little good tackling. Um

488
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: signing the ball and seeing what the ball is. It's

489
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: my strength as far as getting better as just um,

490
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: just knowing what to expect out of certain formations that um,

491
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, whatever team we're playing, what they give us. Um,

492
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come with time and more preparation. So

493
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: you know, continue to do that, seem to study and

494
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: get better in that area. You guys have played six

495
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: games in a bye week. At seven games and then

496
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: you throw in you know, multiple weeks of camp usually

497
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: rookies about this time. That's about a full college season. Um,

498
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: how are you doing one? Just just from the mental

499
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: standpoint that you know, staying in it and not getting

500
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: too tired and and also physically, Yeah, UM, I think

501
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: you just gotta you gotta take a day by day. Um.

502
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's it's a lot of games lest

503
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: you know at the well, six weeks, seven weeks in Um,

504
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: I just gotta take a day by day to take

505
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: care of your body and continue continue to prepare at Jordan,

506
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm from California. My first time coming up to Washington

507
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: was when I went to college, and it was an

508
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: an adjustment for me with the weather, the rain or whatnot.

509
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: My buddy used to live in Houston. He said, this

510
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: rain ain't none. He used to rain puddles in Houston,

511
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: is what he said when he's down there. How how's

512
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: it been adjusting to the Northwest. It's been nice. You know,

513
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: I can appreciate this whether it comes from Houston. It's

514
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: a lot of humidity. Um, it's a lot of heat.

515
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: You don't get the four seasons that you do up here.

516
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: So it's been a big climate change for me. But

517
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. You know, I'm seeing mountains, trees, lakes,

518
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: things I'm not accustomed to seeing. So I love it

519
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: up here. Um. So yeah, it's been good for me. Well,

520
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, Texas is known for particularly high school football

521
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Friday night lights. Both my kids, uh they're they're they're

522
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: just thirty and twenty nine. But they moved to Dollars

523
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: a year ago, and uh, what what is better football?

524
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Is it in Dallas or is it in Houston. I

525
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble here. That's a that's

526
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: a serious that's a serious rivalry. Um, A big debate

527
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: in Texas. Whether it's Dallas and Houston. I really can't

528
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: tell you. I gotta say it even I gotta say

529
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: it's easy for lots of those cities. That's a good

530
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: call because my kids now they're starting to look to

531
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: have kids, said, you better pick a good high school

532
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: with good football. Am I coming there watching anybody go

533
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: two and eight or something that's not gonna happen? Hey, Jordan,

534
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: what's it been like learning from Bobby Wagner and kJ Wright?

535
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: It's been great? Um, you know, I tell my family

536
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: all the time, just I'm grateful. I'm blessed to be

537
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: where I am. I'm like college, you know, I started

538
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: my freshman year, but I got thrown to the fire,

539
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: didn't have any veteran leaders to kind of help me

540
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: get to where I needed to be, you know as

541
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: a linebacker. You know, coming into my rookie year, I've

542
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: got the lunchie having Bobby and kJ as mentors, and

543
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: also you know, common as coaches. You know, they know

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: just as much as information as the coaches do. They've

545
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: been playing for a long time, so every day, you know,

546
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm picking their brain. Um. You know, they're giving me

547
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: tips and pointers on what to expect out of a

548
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: certain call or a certain play or anything like that.

549
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: And they've been real hustled for me. Um, so you

550
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: know the sky's the limit. Jordan went as as a rookie. Uh,

551
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, Monday nights usually got Monday night off, Tuesdays

552
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: your day off. I used to like to go bowling.

553
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get away and do something. You

554
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: get out of the house. You guys are in a

555
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: different time or with this pandemic and not really being

556
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: able to go anywhere. So a two quick questions for one,

557
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: what do you do now and you're time off? And

558
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: what would you love to be doing or what would

559
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: you be doing if you're away from football and we

560
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't have this pandemic. Yeah, I tell people all the

561
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: time the pandemic. You know, it's not that much difference

562
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: to me because I don't do anything. I'm in the

563
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: house probably ninety percent of the time, listen to getting

564
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: out to get gas, to get food. So I'm in

565
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: the holes, resting on a Monday. We're covering, studying and

566
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: watching movies. All right, Jordan, We'll keep studying, keep balling.

567
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: Do what you do, young fellow. We appreciate you taking

568
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: time out of your day and appreciate y'all having me.

569
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: All right, we got you covered. All things Seahawks in

570
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. As a professor, John Clayton joins us next

571
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: right here on Hawkslide. Hawks Slide every Thursday from seven

572
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on seven ten ESPN. S Oh,

573
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: you hear that? Who's that fun? Brown? That's just that's

574
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: just on the button. At seven forty five you hear

575
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: James Brown? Yeah, you hear some fun. We're talking a

576
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: three for three today for three today, Paul, let's clayt.

577
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? Great when I hit the music

578
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: anytime I hear JB. I love it all right, Clayn,

579
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: I talked to you earlier today and you asked me

580
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: this question, so I'm gonna flip it right back to you.

581
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: How good is Dunlap and is he going to be

582
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: the difference in his defense? I don't know about difference,

583
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna help because you know, the

584
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting I talked to kJ right today and

585
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: what kJ was able to say, and you'll be able

586
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: to hear the interview tomorrow between probably at eleven o'clock,

587
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: is that you know they're using a little bit more

588
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: than nine technique, which is kind of unique. Which that's

589
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 1: like the Jeff Fisher type of uh whine where they

590
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: have everybody outside the tackles and you look at Dunlap

591
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: and he fits that role even though he's six six,

592
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty five pounds, because he can play

593
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: on the edge. And so you have Benson Mayowa and

594
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: you have now Dunlap, who next week against Buffalo can

595
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: come into the mix and be on that edge. And

596
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be huge because you think six

597
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: six two eighty five that's a five technique he's coming

598
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: in for you know LJ. Collyer. But no, I think

599
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: that you know he can be in the mix because

600
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: now you have a double duo type of guy that

601
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: can be over at the LEO position and do some

602
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: good things. And so I really like this acquisition. I mean,

603
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: he's got eighty two and a half sacks. He's a

604
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: second best pass rusher in Bengals history, which I think

605
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: is great, good person. And it's like one of the

606
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: things with him is that he's gone through all these

607
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: years since two and ten and you've never heard much

608
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: about him. And the reason is, first off, he's on

609
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals and nobody cares about the Bengals. But also

610
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: the fact, he's never caused a problem. He's a good

611
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: guy in the locker room, he's a good leader. This

612
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: is a good fit. You know, I don't know. I

613
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: can't compare it to the trade for Dwayne Brown, but

614
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: it's a similarity right there that I think can really

615
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: helped his defensive line. Well, you asked part of my question,

616
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: and what kind of guy is he? The other is

617
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: can he still play? Yeah, you know, he wasn't getting

618
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: a lot of reps, but does he still have he

619
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: may look he's Pro Bowl or a few years ago,

620
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: does he does he still have that potential? Well again,

621
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: pro Bowl potential? No, I mean he was into Pro

622
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Bowl two fifteen to sixteen. But he can come in

623
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, say what you want? I mean, you know,

624
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: since going to the Pro Bowl, he's averaged like seven

625
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: sacks a year. So maybe that's not the best. And

626
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: again it's not like it's a Bengal team that after

627
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: five years, because remember they went from two thousand and

628
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: eleven to two thousand and fifteen with five straight trips

629
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, you know, with Andy Dalton at quarterback,

630
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: and since then the whole team has dropped off. And

631
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: when you drop off and you're all of a sudden

632
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: trailing in these games, you're not going to get the

633
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: sacks because you're going to be playing from behind. So no,

634
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: I think that. I mean, he was a good acquisition,

635
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: and you think about how cheap it really he became

636
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: as far as that acquisition, Okay, So basically you can say, okay,

637
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: they got him for a seventh round pick, but they

638
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: were able to pick up the contract in Cincinnati with

639
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: b J Finney, you know, who was making a two year,

640
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: seven seven million dollar contract, wasn't working out here and

641
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: they needed somebody because they have four guys on the

642
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: offensive line that are injured, and so they took the

643
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: Finny contract out of the Seahawks cop number. And I

644
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: think that is huge. So really you get him for

645
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: virtually nothing. They still have to work some things out

646
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: under the cap, but no, it's like you get a guy.

647
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Is he a Pro Bowl guy? Now? No? Is he

648
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: a guy that can help? Absolutely? John, Were you surprised

649
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: that they were? I guess I don't want to say

650
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: we're willing to take Finny. Obviously, Cincinnati, you know they

651
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: played against Pittsburgh. A bunch knew it knew about him,

652
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: probably thinks he can obviously still play, but that trade

653
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: doesn't work unless we get the same type of salary

654
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: off of our cap as we get. Is that correct. Yeah,

655
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: but there's still about a two million dollar plus difference

656
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: that they have to make up and figure out before,

657
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, because right now he goes on the exempt

658
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: list and they have five six days to figure this out,

659
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: whether it's a trade somebody to open up cap room

660
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: or restructure a contract, so they still have time to

661
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: do that. But now I'm not surprised at all. And

662
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: the reason I say I'm not surprised, you know, because

663
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: again I'll tell you it's like if I can't figure

664
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: it out as a total surprise, but I know I

665
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: was on with Danny and Gon want and in the

666
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: morning because I had figured out the night before. It's like,

667
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough because you know, Danny, everybody else

668
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: is asking, you know, can you take on this big

669
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: because he has his own to thirteen million dollars a

670
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: year contract. Can they take that contract on? You go no,

671
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: But it's like, okay, but you know, the Bengals have

672
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: four offensive linemen injured this week and he can't help

673
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: this week. But some of those injuries are going to

674
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: carry into next week, so they needed somebody. They're going

675
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: to sign Quentin Spain, who was cut by Buffalo at

676
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: a five million dollars a year contract. And now it's

677
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: like Finny. They've seemed more of Finny than the Seahawks

678
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: has even more of Finny because remember, you know he's

679
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: played in Pittsburgh, and of course in Pittsburgh they play

680
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers to Bengals do two times a year, so

681
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: they've seen more of him than the Seahawks have seen

682
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: him on the field, and so it's like they feel

683
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: confident enough that it's like, Okay, we can use this

684
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: guy because he can either start or back up, and

685
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: it really helped his team out on the offensive line. John,

686
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I know how much you like talking about uniforms, but

687
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about post game fashion. Jeff Garcia went

688
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: in on Cam Newton about what he wears after the

689
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: game and this and that is that fair. Should he

690
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: focus on his play or focus on his attire. I'll

691
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: go with Jeff on this one, because, I mean, Jeff

692
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: has been such a good quarterback in the league and

693
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: the attire is just brutal. I mean, I don't know

694
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: when when you look at Cam Newton, I know that

695
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: Saturday is going to be Halloween, and it's a different

696
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: Halloween because I don't know people are gonna be out

697
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: knocking on doors trying to get candy and all that stuff.

698
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: But it's like, you'll look at Cam Newton's outfits and

699
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: it almost looks like it's Halloween every day that he

700
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: comes to a game, and it's like it's it's a

701
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: little bit too much, you know. It's like it's nice

702
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: that he can be able to do that, and he's

703
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: made enough money in his career he can afford it.

704
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: But it's like, I'll side with Garcia on this one, John,

705
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: he's just keeping it funky. You of all people should

706
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: know about them. But no, let's put this way. What

707
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: I look at with him, it's not funky. Clinton portis

708
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: when he was with Washington and Denver and all that stuff,

709
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: he wore funky stuff. And that's what I like about

710
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Clinton portis because he was into the funk. Because I mean,

711
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: you look at that. I mean, you look at Cam

712
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Newton's outfits. Is that funk? I don't think so I'll

713
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: take your word for it, John. If we're healthy. If

714
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: we have Carson and Hide and Homer and Jamal Adams

715
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: and Griffin, I'm feeling really good about this game this week.

716
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah I would too. But again, it doesn't look good

717
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: for Carson because he didn't practice day questionable right now.

718
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: On Hide, he didn't practice today. Jamal Adams didn't practice today.

719
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: That doesn't look good. So I think that puts the

720
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: question in your mind. But also you have to look

721
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: at it on the San Francisco side because the forty

722
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: nine ers, Okay, is a Sherman going to be back? No?

723
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Is Tart going to be back at safety? No? Where

724
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: are they at running back? I mean, you know they

725
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: have Jared McKinnon, but that's about it. Because I think

726
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: they'll get Telvin Coleman back because he's on injury deserve

727
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: and it looks like he has a chance to come back.

728
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: But Jeff Willis had to go on IR because or

729
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: at least he's not going to be out for three

730
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: to five weeks because he's got the high ankle sprain

731
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: and most are their best running back, you know, he's

732
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: on IR. So it's like both teams are in bad

733
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: shape as far as injuries. But the forty nine ers,

734
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: I still contend or in worse shape than the Seahawks.

735
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: All right, John, you know what time it is, Yeah,

736
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: this is your segment. What do you want to talk about?

737
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: Well again, it's like, you know, the question is what

738
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: people don't ask me. And I was going through some

739
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: of the stats today and we're talking about the offensive

740
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: line and is there an improvement on the offensive line

741
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: even though Russell Wilson is getting three sacks a game

742
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: And the answer is yes. Now again, I keep on

743
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: saying and have been saying for weeks that according to

744
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: ESPN Analytics, based on next Gens stats, that they're only

745
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the wind rate on pass blocking is, you know,

746
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: among the fifth or sixth best in the league. While

747
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: it's going through the stats today and I can't find

748
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: a Seahawk offensive lineman who's given up more than one

749
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: and a half sacks. We're six weeks into the season,

750
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: six weeks no offensive lineman on this team is given

751
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: up more than one and a half sacks. That's incredible.

752
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: And again, a lot of the sacks happen because either

753
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: coverage sacks Russell rolling out and doing that stuff. Again,

754
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: he's had eighteen sacks this year, but again, not many

755
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: of them can totally be attributed to the offensive line.

756
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: That's what people haven't asked me. John. Trevor Lawrence sounds

757
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: like he's contemplating staying one more year to avoid being

758
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: drafted by the Jets. Is that a good move? Me?

759
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm taking the money, John, I'm getting take the money.

760
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, he answered the question as

761
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: correctly as he could. I mean, here's a guy Clemson

762
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: who ironically finds out after he made those comments that

763
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: he tested positive for COVID and now it's going to

764
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: miss some time. But he didn't know that when he

765
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: was saying these comments. But he said, well, I don't know.

766
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: I still have time to make that decision. I'm not

767
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: going to make the decision now. And everybody immediately, oh,

768
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a Jet. Well, let's put

769
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: it this way. It's the New York market. It can

770
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: make a lot of money in the New York market.

771
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had Jordan Palmer, Carson Palmer's brother, you know,

772
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: coaching him up to get him ready for the draft

773
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And his father goes on Toronto

774
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: radio and says, I don't want him to go to Cincinnati.

775
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: There are a bad franchise. Carson Palmer told me that

776
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: from what he told Jordan Palmer and all that stuff.

777
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: But in the end, Joe Burrow made a decision. It's like,

778
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't care about that stuff. I'll hold off, I'll wait,

779
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: and then he says, I'm gonna go to the Bengals.

780
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: Now again, he's been great with the Bengals. He's one

781
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: of the leading candidates for Rookie of the Year. But

782
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: also too, he's getting battered because probably Jordan, his father

783
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: and Carson were right. But I think this is just

784
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: a politically good statement to say, I'm gonna wait. I

785
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: don't have to make the decision now here in October. Well,

786
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: he's a smart kid. You are a smart man, and

787
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: ask always John Clayton, I'll see you next time. To

788
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: keep it funky, baby, keep all right. Coming up next,

789
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: we turn up the heat a little bit. Two men enter,

790
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: but there could only be one winner. We debut our

791
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: newest segment, Talk That Talk Straight Ahead, Duncle Anywhere. It's

792
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: Hawk Slide, Hawks Sucks Live every Thursday from seven to

793
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: nine live on air on seven CHENN ESPN Seattle. No.

794
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: Here're your host, Michael Bumpis and Paul Moyer. It's time

795
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and Paul Moyer

796
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: on Hawks Live. Threw me off on that one new segment, Paul,

797
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: talk that talk. This is when me and you look

798
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: at each other in our eyes and we talk that talk.

799
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: Still business. I'm gonna propose the first question to you. Okay, Carlos,

800
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: don't laugh. Will he fix the Seahawks pass rush issues? No,

801
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: but he's gonna help it. Okay, Um, Look, there's not

802
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: one thing that's gonna fix this defense right now. And

803
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: pass defense, it's a combination of things, right, It's a

804
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: combination of your scheme. It's a combination of certainly the

805
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: back seven and understanding power or pattern recognition. And then

806
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: it's it's also, you know, an important part is can

807
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: we get the ball out within two and a half

808
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: seconds or less it starts getting longer. That's that's problem right. Honestly,

809
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: to me, the biggest issue is we've got to fix

810
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: the back seven and at the spot drop I think four. Yeah.

811
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: If you go look at the win rate on us,

812
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: we're going into the last week, we were like seventh,

813
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: and so it doesn't come to always quarterback hits or sacks.

814
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: But there there's pressure, and that's what you look at.

815
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: There's not enough talk about pressures the ball coming out

816
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: on time. Well, if I'm playing off and I'm playing soft,

817
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm spot dropping and they're working behind me in the zones,

818
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: there's no password that's going to help that much to it.

819
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: So he's gonna be a help. Though he's not gonna

820
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: fix it. He's gonna be a help. He's gonna another body.

821
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: He's a guy who's consistently been a you know, seven

822
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: to nine SAT guy. We can use him. He's a

823
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: veteran guy, he's been a he's a good guy. You

824
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: heard John Clayton talk about him. Uh So I'm excited

825
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: to get him. Can't have enough good bodies. I think

826
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna fix it, fix it. And this is why

827
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: because of the guy who also is gonna play snacks,

828
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Harrison is gonna get the mix. And I think that

829
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: his knowledge. He was a nineteen year vet, he's been

830
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: in the league so long. He's gonna teach these young

831
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: guys some tricks, your hands, your leverage, getting the filled,

832
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: how to win your one on one battle. Because that's

833
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: what I see. I don't see guys winning one on

834
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: one battles too often on that defensive line. So I'm

835
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: hoping that he comes in and goes, look, this is

836
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: how you beat this guy. I've seen this guy played

837
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: against this guy before. This is how you beat that guy.

838
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: These are the things you have to do to be

839
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: a productive defensive lineman in this league. With the addition

840
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: of snacks, Harrison, I'm you know what, I'm walking with

841
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: faith he's gonna fix it. It's so let me expand

842
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: on that, because you might be right in one aspect

843
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: of it. When when Cliff Abrew and Michael Bennett were together, Yeah,

844
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: a lot of Michael Bennett shacks because of Cliff Abrol.

845
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: There you go. He made He made the quarterback have

846
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: to step up or flash. And Michael didn't always beat

847
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: his guy, but he came off a block and got

848
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: the sack. Mayoa at times wins, read at times wins,

849
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: but we're stuck sometimes on the other guys. Again, I'm

850
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: not here to call anybody out. You've got to have

851
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: another guy that when you win and all of a sudden,

852
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: Murray steps up in the pocket, the other guy is

853
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: right there coming off the block for the sack. There's

854
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: too many times where the win is there, we step up,

855
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: he escapes, there's nothing there. There's other times, you know,

856
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: we had our we almost had a sack, Bobby almost

857
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: had a we're off the field. Both of those times,

858
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: not only did we knock it off the field, I

859
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: think they went down and scored. That's the difference between

860
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: get off the field, a safety, all kinds of things.

861
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: So I think you're right in one part that maybe

862
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: just having another guy when one guy wins, the other

863
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: one is there to clean it up. I think that'll

864
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: help the village. All right, let's talk to talk. So

865
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: people throw out greatest athlete. I want to have this

866
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: conversation too, because I differ on what does that mean?

867
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: And some people shad dk Metcalf the best pure athlete

868
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: in sports. First of all, your thoughts on that, and

869
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: then maybe even I could even say best athlete on

870
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: the Seahawks that he is an athlete. He is a

871
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: very good athlete. But when we talk about athletes is

872
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: what can you do across the board A whole bunch

873
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: of different things. What do you bring to the table here? Athletes?

874
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: I think of Dion Sanders, I think of bow Jackson.

875
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: I think of Charlie Ward. I think of guys like

876
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: that who's shown that they can perform a different levels

877
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: on this Seahawks team. I think DK is a specimen.

878
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: He is a prototypical big outside receiver. But I don't

879
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: even think he's the best athlete on this team. I

880
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: hear I hear rumbles of John Ursua being the best

881
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: hooper on the team and also being a Obviously he's

882
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: a solid football player, but I want to see and

883
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: we talked. We talked a bit earlier. Kenny Kenny swing

884
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: a golf club, he can he hit a baseball can?

885
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: He played one of the best athletes I've ever been around.

886
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: And my definition of athlete is more around because of me. Look,

887
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: it's not just about speed and explosiveness. Is d k

888
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: one of the most explosive athletes in the world most

889
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: no question that you saw it On Sunday man ram

890
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: down Buddha Baker Buddha tweeted out, I got I don't

891
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: know what he said, I got hot, yes, and that

892
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: he that he did that was an incredible feat and

893
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: uh effort along the way. But you know, I'm I'm

894
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: a good tennis player, a good golfer. Okay, basketball, So

895
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: you are no no no no no no no no

896
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: no not done yet not done. I've seen the reason

897
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: why I say I could do all that bowl. I

898
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: don't consider myself one of the great athletes of all time.

899
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Kenny Easley though, Kenny Easley, he and I ping pong, unbelievable.

900
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: The guy was on freshman basketball team for UCLA. Scratch golfer. Um,

901
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: he could troll, he could be a co orderback return

902
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: punch bowl. We pool, We played Dave Craig. He's up

903
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: here in the Ring of Honor as well. Dave Craig

904
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: and I one day we started off with golf, We

905
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: went to cribbage, played pool, and I can't remember. We

906
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: had a fourth thing we did. We bold. We both well,

907
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: Dave could play any sport. It didn't always look pretty,

908
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: but man, he beat up and I go to me,

909
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: it's just a well rounded athlete. And so sometimes we

910
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: just say, well, that guy's a great athlete, and I

911
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: he's explosive. But I want to know, DK, can you

912
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: can you golf? Can you hit the tennis ball? How

913
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: about bowl? Give me something? Can you shoot the hoop?

914
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't know anybody he was

915
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL who doesn't think they're a good bass player.

916
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: You know what they mean? When I was in college,

917
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: every football player thought he was a good basketball player,

918
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: and every basketball player thought that they could play football,

919
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: and we were all wrong. It's just different. And you know,

920
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: you know where I think of man Jackie Robinson U

921
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: C l A. I mean, this guy did it all baseball, track.

922
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: I think he did basketball too. I'm missus anyway, Jackie Robinson,

923
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: So who is I'm drawn to play the big hurt baseball.

924
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Frank Thomas. Frank Thomas, same thing he was, you know,

925
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: football guy. I mean, got drafted in a couple of

926
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: different sports. They're they're they're out there. But DK, I

927
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: just need to know, can you do the other things?

928
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: Because you are one of the most explosive athletes, maybe

929
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: the most explosive athlete in all of sports. Okay, here's

930
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: another one for you, Paul Paul Moya Ye. Sunday's game

931
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals will cost Russell Wilson, But MVP, I'm

932
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: not sure why. Um. He had a great game, you know,

933
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: good yards, they had double digit leads. He threw a

934
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: careless throw. Um they Buddha Baker made a phenomenal play out.

935
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: They had a stack three guys right there. Buddha was

936
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: about eight yards behind everybody and he was waiting on it.

937
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: And I just think they underestimated his speed. That man

938
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: can run not as fast as DC as we know,

939
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: two point six. Unbelieve, but it was it wasn't it

940
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: was kind of a lazy throw. It was it was

941
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: behind Carson. If he threw it out in front towards

942
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: the sideline, you know, a boot is gonna have to

943
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: run through Carson. That made it's a tackler or a

944
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: pi um. The second one they just miscommunication. You know,

945
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: DK pulled the route back instead of going into the

946
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: end zone. That's gonna happen. I'm okay. The last one,

947
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: Look they schemed him, it happens. No way does this

948
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: hurt him. He's still the front runner. Because everybody's had

949
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: a bad game. Rogers had a bad game, Homes had

950
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: a bad game. I know, you like Tom Brady, Yeah

951
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: the Mayeah, I don't. Yeah, this is this is Russell's

952
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: this this third Sunday Night game. I believe you, and

953
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: I think that you're right. But I also think that

954
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: because we are in the Northwest because Russell already doesn't

955
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: get respect. If he doesn't bounce back against the forty nine,

956
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be because of this game. He can play.

957
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: He can have in decent game against the forty nine ers,

958
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: throw one or two picks, and if he does that,

959
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: it is going to be an issue. People aren't going

960
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: to believe in him. I think that we think he

961
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: is the front runner for that MVP spot. But you

962
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: know how the nation does. They look at Seattle. They

963
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: don't believe it, they don't want to believe it. They

964
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: allow us to just stand still. I just I just

965
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: don't think that people really respect it yet. I think

966
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: they they're looking for reasons not to respect it. And

967
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: if he doesn't bounce back against the forty nine ers,

968
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I told you that Sunday night against Arizona Cardinals. I

969
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: think he's still the front runner, but I think the

970
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: nation looks at him a bit differently. All Right, I'm

971
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: gonna throw one one final one here, real quick, let's go.

972
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: Are the Hawks good enough to hold off all these

973
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: content this NFC Western's brutal. Yes to this, And if

974
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: we win last week, there's no question on we got

975
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: three game lead over Arizona, we got a three game

976
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: leave over San Francisco, we got a two game leave

977
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: over the Rams. I'm I'm still curious how good they are.

978
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: Just last week's loss, does that throw the doubt in

979
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: your mind? Can we hold this gauntlet off? If they

980
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: did not make a move on the defensive line, if

981
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Snacks wasn't in the wings waiting, if Carlos didn't just

982
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: join the squad, I would have some doubt. But at

983
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: this point, I think that they've made enough moves in

984
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: the right moves to get this thing going. I think

985
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna split with the Rams. You know, the Rams

986
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: always playing well. I think they're gonna split with the Rounds.

987
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: They obviously have no choice but to split with the Cardinals.

988
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna lose to them again. Everyone else.

989
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: I think they'll take care of Yeah, this one, I

990
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: really wish we had a one last week. To me,

991
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: it was a really important game, divisional game on the road.

992
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: Six and oh we're about to play four just back

993
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: to back back, tough games. I would like to have

994
00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: that little cushion because I hate negative streaks and losing streaks.

995
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: Some people would say, oh, the Seahawks are gonna be mad.

996
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: They're coming off a loss, and I go, no, I'd

997
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: rather play a team coming off a loss all day long.

998
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: There's pressure on them. They lost for a reason. It

999
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: means there's something not quite right. Seahawks gotta clean this up.

1000
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: I think the Hawks are gonna take care of business

1001
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: this week because I don't think San Francisco's defense is

1002
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: good enough to stop the Seahawks offense. And I think

1003
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: San Francisco's offense is so beat up a team that's

1004
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: struggling defensively, I think we can hold them down. No

1005
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: big plays. Kittle's a problem. They better just say anybody

1006
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: can beat us, but Kittle. But I think we're gonna

1007
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: hold this thing off. I think we're good enough. We

1008
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: have enough good players. I am frustrated we have not

1009
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: figured it out defensively. I'm frustrated and I don't have answers,

1010
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: and I usually would. But we're gonna find a way

1011
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: to hold this thing off. They're gonna find a way.

1012
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: Paul and that let's talk. That talk. The debut of

1013
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: this segment, I think it went pretty well. Paul coming

1014
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: to them. Next, we'll go inside the firm room and

1015
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: revisit the biggest player from the Seahawks loss against the Cardinals.

1016
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: That's around the corner on Hawkslide. Hawks's Live every Thursday

1017
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: from seven and nine, Live on air on seven Jenny

1018
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: ESPN shadow my only disappointment, all right, So who is this? Well,

1019
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: Michael Jacks, all right, and it's a good thing. I

1020
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: like the thing. I'm just trying to make sure you

1021
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: go a four and four. You're batting a thousand right now.

1022
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, now you're really in my world. That was

1023
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: my favorite. That hurt me. We are in more years

1024
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: of the world. And right now we're going inside the

1025
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: film room. We break down three of the biggest plays

1026
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: from the Cardinals. Well, from the Seahawks lost against the Cardinals.

1027
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: The first player we're gonna break down is Buddha Baker's

1028
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: red zone interception and the way DK hauts him down

1029
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: first and goal. Russell takes a shotgun snap Carson, Oh no,

1030
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: it's picked off going the other way. It's Buddha Banker

1031
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: down the nearest sideline. Nobody's gonna catch him unless Metcalf can.

1032
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: He is sprinting, he is running, he dies and he

1033
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: catches him. DK Metcalf catches Buddha Baker on a little

1034
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: don't pass into the right flat, and Russell never saw

1035
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: him and he steals the ball away. All right, I'm

1036
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go over to you. You're just praising

1037
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and how he played the well. First of all,

1038
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:27,479
Speaker 1: he knows it's coming. He's he's about six yards back

1039
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: from where the line of scrimmages and they're in a

1040
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: bunch or a stack formation. Three guys really close together,

1041
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: are tied into wide receivers. Look, there's every dB in

1042
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: the world knows what's going on. You've got Carson who's

1043
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: a little bit wide. He's sitting on the tackle. That's

1044
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: not normally where they are, they're not that wide. But

1045
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: he's he knows that they're gonna run, you know, a

1046
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: bit of a pick route or rub routes, and try

1047
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: to pick him off and get Carson into the flat.

1048
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: He's deep enough and fast enough he can get this.

1049
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: But this is the negative part. This is not a

1050
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: good it's a great play by Buddha, but it's a

1051
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: poor throw. It's lobbed. That's lobbed inside. I mean Carson

1052
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: is looking towards the sideline, running too the flat. He

1053
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: has to actually turn his whole body back around because

1054
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: the balls thrown inside. If Russell does what he normally doesn't,

1055
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: just guns it to his outside shoulder, maybe it's a touchdown.

1056
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a tackle on the one yard line, but

1057
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: it's not an interception. But the big play is I'll

1058
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: let you take over. The big play is number fourteen. DK.

1059
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: Now Buddha has maybe a four yard head start on

1060
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: this guy, and Buddha is moving north south. As soon

1061
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: as he catches the full ball, DK is going east west.

1062
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Puts his left foot, left foot in the ground and

1063
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: gets those knees up and like I love to say,

1064
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: gets on his horse. Buddha thinks he's good to go

1065
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: around the twenty yard line. He looks back and realized

1066
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: there's the dopaman pincher on his heels ready to bite him.

1067
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: And that play right there is going to live forever.

1068
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: That's a play that's going to be an NFL film

1069
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: as long as the NFL is being played. I love

1070
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: to see it. What I don't like to see I

1071
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: want you to take a look at Russell Wilson. Now,

1072
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: when you throw the football, when you throw a ball

1073
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: with conviction. When you believe in what you're seeing, man,

1074
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: you follow through. You bring that back half of everybody through.

1075
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't see that he just flicks it out there.

1076
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: I talked to Pete. Pete said, you know throughout the

1077
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: week this was open and that's the way he threw it.

1078
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: So what you do in practice is what you're gonna

1079
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: do in the game, and that's exactly what happened here. Unfortunate,

1080
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: but that hustle played by DK saved seven points because

1081
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: the defense stood tall in the in the red zone,

1082
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: and then the Hawks go down and score, so, like

1083
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, it didn't really affect them. He was

1084
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: about four or five yards behind Buddha Baker. Buddha Baker

1085
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: is flat out fast. It wasn't like he caught some

1086
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: offensive or defensive end or anybody, anybody but Buddha Baker.

1087
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: It's the fastest guy. Probably are one of the fast

1088
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: guys on Arizona's team. And you watch Buddha. Buddha is

1089
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 1: strid mo he is good form with the football. He's

1090
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: thinking this is it, and all of a sudden he

1091
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: feels this deep breath on his neck and he turns

1092
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: around the last second and you know, just for those

1093
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: who all remember this, I mean, this is a great

1094
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: goal line stand. And the Seahawks weren't right back down

1095
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: and scored, but to me it was still a momentum killer.

1096
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: Momentum killer. Right next play, Russell Wilson connects with Tyler

1097
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: Lockett for an amazing forty seven yard test down. Russ

1098
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: takes the snap, Look's gonna let it fly downfield. Tyler

1099
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: Lockett is out there. Lock It makes the catch of

1100
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: the head zone touchdown, Say, Hawks, how does he get open?

1101
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: How does he do that? Tyler Lockett is amazing And

1102
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: the perfect pass from Russell Wilson. A forty seven yard

1103
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: shot before halftime, forty seven seconds left and a perfect pass.

1104
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: Locket with his second score of the night. All right,

1105
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: this play right here, Lockett goes into motion. It's a

1106
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: zone obviously, because no one runs with him. The linebacker

1107
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: just bumps into the box. And what he does a

1108
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: great job of He attacks the corner, attacks his leverage.

1109
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: That means the corners outside of him. He stems after him,

1110
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: puts his foot in the ground, and goes. By the

1111
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: time Russell Wilson lets his ball go, he is double team.

1112
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: So he's looking at Lockett and saying, that's my boy,

1113
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: that's sixteen. I'm gonna give him a chance. And also

1114
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: what helps is Buddha gets confused. He's looking for the football.

1115
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: Where is it? Is it right? Is it left? But

1116
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: you cannot discredit the speed in the catch of Tyler Lockett.

1117
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: He now, I remember looking at this game life and

1118
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: he got face masks a bit as he's falling down

1119
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: to the ground and still made the catch. He went

1120
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: up top against Peterson two times in this game, the

1121
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: very first play and then this right here. Peterson is

1122
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: one of the most athletic corners in the game. Right now.

1123
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: This was Russell Wilson letting his boy make a play.

1124
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: And as we see, we love it's toss the ball up,

1125
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: let me make a play. I know one thing, I

1126
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: could be the greatest coach in the history of the

1127
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: world if I had guys like this doing this. Because

1128
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: I have no idea why he threw the football. No,

1129
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense. You've got a crossing route that's

1130
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: pretty open. You've got Greg Olsen on the same side,

1131
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: runs an out and up and there's nobody guarding him.

1132
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: He might score a touchdown. Probably not because Peterson and

1133
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: Buddha would come off. But he's gonna be inside the

1134
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: thirty maybe to the twenty yard line. I have no

1135
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: IDEA matter of fact, I'm actually kind of mad we

1136
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: scored so quick because Arizona end up going down to

1137
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. But I really don't know why.

1138
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: But I will say this from a coaching point, what

1139
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: I spotted, what I thought was so good about this.

1140
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: You mentioned that Tyer Lockett went in motion, but what

1141
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: he did is the ball wasn't snapped when he was

1142
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: still going sideways in motion. He squared his shoulders up,

1143
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: kind of tapped his feet, so he was almost in

1144
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: a running motion when the ball stopped on a straight line.

1145
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: When you're in motion and the ball snapped and you've

1146
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: got to round that off, that play doesn't work. Mart,

1147
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: you play receiver back in the night. I'm thriller man,

1148
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: all right. The next player, Russell Wilson, intercepted by Ian Simmons.

1149
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: We did not pick these, by the way. Now, the

1150
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: ball in Seattle territory and just a quick throwing. It's

1151
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: intercepted by Arizona. Russell was just trying to dump it

1152
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: over the middle, and the ball is picked off by

1153
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons right in the middle of the field with

1154
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: one on four left. The third pick thrown tonight by

1155
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I'm not sure what he was thinking or

1156
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: who he was throwing too. I'm gonna let you lead

1157
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: the charge in this because this this is tough on

1158
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Well, look at his own blitz. He he

1159
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: should have seen so as soon as the ball was snapped,

1160
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: he should have seen three linebackers or two linebackers in

1161
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: a safety. I'm not sure all the personnel group, but

1162
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: they basically have six seven guys up, you know, right

1163
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: on the line. You got there's seven guys. Yeah. They

1164
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: bring a corner or basically a nickel off the corner.

1165
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: I think he knows this. I just think when he

1166
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: saw the corner come off or the slot, I think

1167
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 1: he thought, oh, I'm just gonna throw it really quick

1168
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: and get a quick pass. But instead he looks like

1169
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: he's trying to go I don't know who he's trying to,

1170
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: just trying to hit Tyler locking on this. I'm not

1171
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: sure who or DK. It's just a bad throw. It's

1172
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: a bad read and you gotta get used to this.

1173
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: The thing I do like about Arizona is Arizona. You

1174
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: know during the game they bust two I mean there there.

1175
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: This isn't a stout. They gave up five hundred and

1176
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: seventy seven yards to us right, but they took chances

1177
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: at the right time. They said, hey, and what's so

1178
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: impressive about this. It's not the zone blitz. There's nothing

1179
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 1: magical about this. There's no schematic thing where you want.

1180
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Gene haven't seen that before. But what they did on

1181
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: how they executed and taught their linebackers to look up

1182
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: and run to the receivers. They must have known this

1183
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: was their type of side of just and that linebacker.

1184
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Both of them ran right underneath DK and tyer Locker.

1185
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: There was nowhere to go if you threw it a

1186
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: little quicker more to the outside the DK. I don't

1187
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: think they get the interception, but DK isn't looking, so

1188
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: this is a confute. They were confused on this locket

1189
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: and DK weren't looking. But also two plays before that, consecutively,

1190
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: they gave this same look and they blitzed everybody. So

1191
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: now Russell's thinking, all right, here they come here, I'm

1192
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get this ball off quickly. And what

1193
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,959
Speaker 1: is disappointing to me is that the receivers don't look

1194
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: for the ball. It's if if I if I'm a

1195
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: slot receiver, I'm Tyler Lockett in this situation, and I

1196
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: see all backers up my first two three steps, I'm

1197
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: looking at Russell just in case you want to get

1198
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: it to me quick, and he doesn't look. Now, Simmons

1199
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: makes a great play on it, and like you missed,

1200
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: they drop, and they don't drop the spots. They're dropping

1201
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: two men. They're dropping two receivers, and that's what makes

1202
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: this thing work. If they were just dropping and looking

1203
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: at the quarterback and not worried about what the receivers

1204
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 1: were doing, Russell might get lucky and make this play happen.

1205
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: But they're aware. They're coached up here. Paul. Let me

1206
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: ask you this because what I'm a little perplexed on

1207
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: this play is DK sees the nickel and no one's

1208
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: covering Tyler, right, so Tyler's he's looking and and Tyler

1209
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: immediately sees them drop. So he's saying, I'm gonna stay

1210
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: with my route. But DK's guy. He blitzes off the corner. Yeah,

1211
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: And at that point I'm like would you not if

1212
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: you knew it was zone blitzers coming one? You've got

1213
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: to be ready. I gotta get that to you quick.

1214
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: And if it's a zone blitz, I'm kidding, why wouldn't

1215
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: he widen that just out to the numbers a little bit,

1216
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, because there's no way those guys can get him.

1217
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, they're lined up on the center and the guard. Yeah,

1218
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: so I don't. Again, it's this is I thought we

1219
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: played so well offensively. This play was just one of

1220
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: those plays. It was just, you know, inexplicable. It's just

1221
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: there was a poor, poor play byas Yeah, you know,

1222
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: And I think I look at that play and I'm like,

1223
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: are these guys coached up to do that? Or is

1224
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: this just a bust by the receiver? I think so

1225
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: you think, well, I'm not good to shoot the number

1226
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: one offense in the NFL. We're doing a lot of

1227
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: good things, and I have to go back. You mentioned

1228
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: that they had done this earlier and brought him all.

1229
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: That's a great point. I didn't even know that. So

1230
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: well we will never know, Paul, what do you mean?

1231
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: Man good in the locker room and start asking me.

1232
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: I want to I want you actually in the film room.

1233
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: Any better credentials. I'm Tier four. The only let me

1234
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: through the door, all right, is the Cam Newton era

1235
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: already over in New England. More dysfunction in Dallas, Paul More,

1236
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: I take me around the NFL. Coming up next on

1237
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: Hawks Live. Hawks Slive every Thursday from seven to nine,

1238
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: live on air on seven ten ESPN SHI Hawks Live.

1239
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: You heard that music, Paul, Oh, there we go. We

1240
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: got a good thing going. We got Halloween weeks how

1241
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: aween week week? All right, so we had a little thriller,

1242
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: We had a little ghostbuster. Are you gonna call? Paul?

1243
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: Got one more segment? This is easy, you're now you're

1244
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: just this is like, hey, you're batting a thousand though.

1245
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: I just want to see my guy win. That's all

1246
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: I really want gonna get. The last one thought, the

1247
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: last two have been pretty easy. Yeah, yeah, Hey, pretty easy?

1248
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: Is that Matt Matt in the in the back, back

1249
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: in the studio. Let's go challenge Paul in this next one.

1250
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: Bring it well, we're gonna go around the NFL. And

1251
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: the first topic we're gonna talk about Cam Newton. Paul,

1252
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this guy, play it. Just it don't

1253
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: look right, it don't feel right, it don't seem right.

1254
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't have receivers, he's not able to run the

1255
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: rock the way that he usually does. I think that

1256
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: is what's kind of hindering him is I don't think

1257
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: his shoulder is healthy and he's not the athlete that

1258
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: he used to be, and he doesn't have receivers on

1259
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: the outsides where he can just toss it up. That's

1260
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: being nice. But when we played him second week of

1261
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: the season, we all went wow, I mean through for

1262
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: unbelievable yards. He was really accurate. I mean he he

1263
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: made a lot of really good throws. So we thought, Okay,

1264
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: he's back, and not just back, he's got a coach

1265
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: that knows his strengths, and you know, his completion percentage

1266
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: is up. And then we got a night game at

1267
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: the last minute last Sunday, and we're watching the game.

1268
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: I think it was you and I have met have

1269
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: been a NASA and he threw it was a ten

1270
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: yard hitch route and he threw it five yards in

1271
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: front of again the dirt and the dirt, and I went, oh, man,

1272
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: that that's that's not even a bad high school quarterback.

1273
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's done. I think there's still

1274
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: something there and they I think they can't give up

1275
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: on him yet. But something he labors so hard to

1276
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: throw a fifteen yard route, I don't think they have

1277
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: a choice. They have to go with Cam Newton. What

1278
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about is Cam Newton after this year, he's

1279
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: on a one year dear Bill League minimum. Yeah, will

1280
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: he get another shot to be a starter in this league.

1281
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he needs the money. I mean he's

1282
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: as wardrobe is good, by the way. I like his wardrobe.

1283
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: Johnathan like it. You know what, there's the point where

1284
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: it's hard for some old school and there's times I

1285
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: did struggle with it because I go, you better be

1286
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: playing well to back that up. Yeah, he's past that.

1287
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: To me. He's an entertainer. He's proven, he's a it's

1288
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: a brand, and you know he's an entertainer. So I

1289
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: had no problem with it. You're a rookie doing that.

1290
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,959
Speaker 1: Like when Mayfield would do all his junk and he's

1291
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: just lousy. I go, you gotta be good to do

1292
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: some of that. But he's earned that right. He where

1293
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: whatever he wants and actually he's fashionable guy. Fashionable guy. Yeah, Okay, Now, Andy,

1294
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: don't concussion. Is that the nail in the coffin for

1295
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys or do you do you expect them

1296
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: to bring another quarterback. Look, they're getting rid of everybody.

1297
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: They still have a chance to that. They're a half

1298
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: game out of first place. Yeah, but they're dumping players

1299
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, it's like they've given up on

1300
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: this thing. Here's why I think they've given up. If

1301
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: if their record was and they had DAK, they're still

1302
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: going for it. I think they've just saw, look, we

1303
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. And now, I mean, and he's

1304
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: not the answer. I'm starting to look at Fitzpatrick and

1305
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, he looks like a stut. I'd bring him in.

1306
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: You know, normally you would say, no, they just don't

1307
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: have a quarterback to pull it off. They've got some

1308
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: huge offensive line issues. I don't know what's going on defensively,

1309
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, but again they've they've unloaded in salary. So

1310
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: to me, they've given up. And someone was saying, you know,

1311
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: they're on pace to you know, if they don't win

1312
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: an the game, you're you're looking at you know, number one,

1313
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: number two pick you better hope the Jets win the

1314
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: game or two, then the Jets are not gonna draft Lawrence.

1315
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I think they still think they have

1316
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback. But I know one thing. You got that

1317
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: number one and you said I'm not gonna take it,

1318
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's three number one picks. Yeah, yeah, Antonio Brown,

1319
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: I think this guy is going to contribute, and he's

1320
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna contribute early. Whenever you have the goat Tom Brady

1321
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: vouching for you, move into my house. I'll show you

1322
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: how to do this. He's back in Florida. He's at

1323
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: home like everything is set up for him to do

1324
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: well in Florida. Now it's up to him to make

1325
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: it happen. Is this mine gonna be right? Is he

1326
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna stop the baby mama drama? Is he gonna focus

1327
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: on football? That's all the stuff that's hurting him on

1328
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: the field, Duke and ball. What do you expect that

1329
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: at ab Well? I thought, you know even last year,

1330
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: you know when you watched Hard Knocks, when he was

1331
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: at the Raiders and his workouts. You know, the guys Bill,

1332
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: he's ridiculous. I wanted him even with all the noise

1333
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: out there, I wanted him. I think he's such a

1334
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: special player. Now that we don't have him, now he's

1335
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: gonna fail. He's he's the old self's gonna come out.

1336
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 1: If he was here, he'd be good. Oh, I know,

1337
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: he'd be fine under Russell Wilson's wing. Oh he'd be

1338
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: fine under Tom Brady. I don't know. I mean that

1339
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: house is big under the sixth time Super Bowl's so

1340
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: quick story NASA knows is but um I met Tom

1341
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 1: Brady my son at the time. He was playing baseball

1342
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: can zag and said he wanted to play football. So

1343
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: UCLA's recruiting him. Got Rick Neuheisel and we're walking out

1344
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: and he goes, oh, let's let's go out. He goes

1345
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, he is working out. I want to see

1346
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 1: he had, like Edelman or one of his uh guys

1347
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: working out. He was so good to my son. He

1348
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: was so humble, and he and my son was having

1349
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: his hard decision that city played baseball or football. And

1350
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: he's like, that was hard for me too. I played baseball.

1351
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: He goes, you know what, whatever to see you make,

1352
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: you go with your passion and whatever it says you

1353
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: may it's the right one. If you go with your passion.

1354
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: We're so I'm like, I want to take a selfie

1355
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: and I want to, you know, take a photo with him,

1356
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 1: but I knew my son would go crazy. We start

1357
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: to leave and they're working out hard and we're leaving

1358
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: it and all of a sudden, he goes, hey, Nick, Nick,

1359
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: and he said, come on here for a second. He

1360
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: brings Nicko, puts his arm around him and he says whatever,

1361
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: like again, you know, and I go, I had a

1362
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: man crush for a long time on Tom Brady. He's

1363
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: a he's a good man. He didn't have to do it,

1364
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: and you know, you appreciate those little things. I appreciate

1365
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: that story because my perception of Brady just changed. I

1366
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 1: didn't think he was that type of guy. I thought

1367
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: he was I walk on water. Open this door for me.

1368
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: So let me tell you a little more about this story.

1369
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 1: So I'm with Newhassel, who's belonged to a golf course

1370
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: there I won't throw the name and making me sound

1371
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: like I'm really trying to flex here Hallisades it was

1372
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: it was Bellair, Yeah, and so he said, hey, he

1373
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: goes Tom, do you want to go golf? And Paul

1374
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: how much long are you guys gonna be here? Do

1375
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: you want to golf as well? And I'm like, I'm in.

1376
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: He says, I have to call He had to call

1377
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: his wife. This is Tom. Yes, he goes, you know,

1378
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 1: she's got the kids and I gotta make sure because

1379
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: she's expecting me to come back. And I'm like, so

1380
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: he's gonna call his wife. Who's worth you know, five

1381
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: hundred million? I go tell you what, why don't we

1382
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: all go to your house. We'll go and ask her. Now,

1383
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: I was like, but he couldn't get out. Hey, I

1384
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: can't get out. I respect so I flew home. You

1385
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: just killed everything I thought about. Tom's good man, all right.

1386
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: Last one, yep, that's Brian. He's on the practice squad

1387
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Raby. When's the last time he played.

1388
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: It's been about about two three years, Paul, But this

1389
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: is These are my thoughts about des Bryan. I think

1390
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: he will be a generic and Quan Bolden for the

1391
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: Baltimore Rabis. He's not taking anybody up top. He's gonna

1392
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: sit down in the zone, but he's gonna be tough.

1393
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna catch a ball getting north south. I think

1394
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: they will help him, But I don't think he's just

1395
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna change the game when it comes to Baltimore's pass again. Yeah, Look,

1396
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: in his time he was tough, you know he I

1397
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: don't know if he ever quite lived up to all

1398
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: the expectations that he had, and you know, certainly a

1399
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: gifted player. Ages. I would say it's not your friend,

1400
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: especially the skilled position, because there are so many Demo

1401
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 1: David Moore. David Moore is a really good wide receiver.

1402
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: But if you threw out to our listeners here and say, hey,

1403
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: if you had could get Des Brian or or David Moore,

1404
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: who would you want, I think a lot of them

1405
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: would say, well, Des Brian, I go no man, Demo

1406
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 1: can run, Demo's got good hand. It's so for a

1407
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: guy who's older, who slowed down, it hasn't played a bunch.

1408
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: Their diamond doesn't. But I appreciate veterans sit down, read

1409
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: the route or the defense properly, be an outlet for um.

1410
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm drawn a blank. Who's the cord? Oh m accorded Lamar, Lamar,

1411
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: Jackson gott Lee. Watching the Carolina game, I'm thinking, Okay,

1412
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: bring his name up here. So I don't think he's

1413
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: gonna help him much. Okay, well we shall find out

1414
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: and coming him next we'll give you our final thoughts

1415
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks Key to victory, Keys of victory right

1416
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: here on Hawk Slid Hawks Slive every Thursday from seven

1417
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on seven ESPN. Fight for

1418
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 1: Moster began to rise, and suddenly, you know what I know?

1419
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: I sang it though. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1420
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: sounds like the fifties, so it's probably sixties. Yeah. Um,

1421
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: well this is my air. I should know this. Hey, well,

1422
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: o'ster mash. I know you can't bat a thousand every day. Well,

1423
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: I got my name, Bobby oh nas job a, Bobby Picket.

1424
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh he's cheating up the monster mash just to have that.

1425
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: That's good enough. Thanks man, I appreciate you for that, Matt,

1426
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: you're the real MVP. But now we're gonna give us

1427
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: give you guys, the listeners, the keys to victory. What

1428
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: do these guys need to do the Seahawks were talking

1429
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: about to beat the forty nine ers. I'm gonna tell

1430
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: you what I think, Paul, and then you tell me

1431
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: what you think. I think they need to be disciplined

1432
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: on defense because what the forty nineers are gonna do.

1433
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: They're gonna start a guy on this side. They're gonna

1434
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: e motion them over there. They're gonna shift this guy there.

1435
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna e motion that receiver back as a running back.

1436
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: They're gonna send him right. They're gonna run the ball left.

1437
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: You just have to read your keys on defense, read

1438
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: your keys and make Jimmy stand in the pocket and

1439
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: throw the ball. The thing I appreciate about Jimmy, I

1440
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: know that we have our views of this guy, but

1441
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: when he sees something he believes in it, the ball's

1442
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: out quick. It's not a long gated throw like Kyler Murray.

1443
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: You look at Kyler Murray like his throat takes a

1444
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: long time to go. Jimmy g if he believes that

1445
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: he sees that, he's gonna let it go and he's

1446
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna depend on that play face. So those linebackers need

1447
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: to be disciplined. You need to respect the running. You

1448
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 1: take your run steps. But as soon as you identify

1449
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: that it's a pas, get into your zone, get your draws,

1450
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: don't draw to a spot, find some work and get

1451
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: to a man. Yeah, I agree, I think we're better

1452
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: than they are I mean, I thought we were toe

1453
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: to toe last year, you know, one yard from winning

1454
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: the NFC West and all that stuff. If we're healthy,

1455
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: there's no question they're really banged up, so are we.

1456
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna score some points. Okay, yeah, I

1457
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: really do. And defensively, because they're missing their best receiver,

1458
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: they're missing their running backs. Kittle's a problem. I just

1459
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: will we gain plan to take away Kittle? Yeah. We

1460
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 1: often go into a game and say this is what

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: we do. It's not about what they do. We're gonna

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01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: run our defense, We're gonna spot drop. It's to me,

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: it's not about pressure on Grappolo. He doesn't really hold

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01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: the ball much. Everything Again, it's inside the numbers. You

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01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: have to take away inside the numbers. If he wants

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: to throw ten passes ten yard out routes on the

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: outside the number, then so be it. Let him have it.

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01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: He's not going to complete them all. He doesn't want

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01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: to go there. He's not comfortable. But the key is

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01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: we have got to shut their running game down. We

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: had Jordan Brooks on earlier. He's a rookie. It's a

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01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: tough game for him because you can't get lost one

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01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: time against them. They run those backside screens, they run

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot of deep crossing routes. Everything again, it's just

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the movie Top Gun. When he

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: finally came back and he looked down and they were

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01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: just all flying all over the place. He goes, oh

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: my god. You know, everything was just so fast. There's

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: just so much going on. You got to slow that down.

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01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,440
Speaker 1: Is he mentioned earlier when we had him on He's

1481
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: played football his whole life. It's just football. So take

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01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: away the run. I think offense, we're gonna we're gonna

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01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: do some damage on him, at least I'm hoping, so

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01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game. We have to win this

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01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: Do you mentioned George's kittle. There's not many tight ends

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01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: that I see on film who you isolate on the

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: backside of four mansions three by one. He's the one

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01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: receiver on the backside mashed up with a corner. Guy

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: can run routes. He understands leverage. He understands that if

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run this out route, I'm gonna get to

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01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: the outside of this defender. I'm gonna keep him close

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: to me so I can create separation at the top

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01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: of this route. A lot of guys who are inexperience

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01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: run a route. They want to get wide. They think

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: releasing wide is going to create space and get out. Yeah,

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01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: they create space for five to ten yards, but a

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01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: good corner is going to close that space at the

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: top of the route because they're a space doesn't make

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: sense if you don't understand what I'm talking about. But

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: you want to make your breaks close to the defender

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01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 1: if you're not blowing by him. And I look at

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01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: George Kittle, He's the best tight end in the game.

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:05,440
Speaker 1: There's only two parts on this one. One is um,

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01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: there's really nobody who can uh guard George Kittle by

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01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: himself though Jamal Adams. One of the games that I

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: watched last year is he did and he played him

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01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: pretty well. I'd love to have him healthy. There's only

1508
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: two players in this league where I go, oh, I

1509
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: want one of those. I want one for Christmas. You gotta.

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01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: I've got to have him once Aaron Donald because he

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01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: is the other one is George Kittle because he there,

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01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: He's so unique, his motor is so high. I oh man,

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01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: those are those are the one for Christmas? What we

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01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: already got him. Yeah, number three. Well, I know, and

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01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: there's a there's actually a few. I dk Metcalp. I

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01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: think Jamal Adams when he's healthy and playing that on

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01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: this team, there's only two that I go, oh no,

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: I have to have this so um so. I love

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: watching George Kittle. But he's a tough off competitor for

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01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. He's a tough one. Hopefully they get it done.

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 1: What you know, we're closing this out. It's so Hey, Thursdays.

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: I love Thursdays. Paul, good to hang up with you.

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01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: My guy, Nasa Choby, he's my guy too. Hey, he's

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: our guys. Thank you. Can we do that all right? Guy? Kay?

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01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: Special thanks to Chris Biederman and Jordan Brooks, as well

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01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: as John Clayton for joining the show. Our board operators

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01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: Matt Hearten. The Seahawks Spring Game Show was live Sunday

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01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 1: starting at ten am. Me and Paul Morier would be

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01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: there as well. Again. Special thanks that Nasa Choby. Until

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01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: next time, I'm your guy, Michael bump Is along with

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01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 1: Paul Morier. We'll be back next Thursday right here on

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