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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition. Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to discuss with all of you

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Speaker 1: as we roll you into the weekend, and we hope

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Speaker 1: that we will make your start to the weekend better

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Speaker 1: than it otherwise would have been. You can interact with

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Speaker 1: the show as always eight hundred and two two to eight,

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Speaker 1: eight to two phone lines will be open throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the program. Get closer and closer to Iowa voting,

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Speaker 1: What if anything is continuing to break there? We will

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Speaker 1: discuss a little bit over a month until the first

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Speaker 1: votes of the twenty twenty four presidential election begin. But

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Speaker 1: big breaking news yesterday evening Hunter Biden charged additionally with

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Speaker 1: nine criminal affair six misdemeanors, three felonies. He faces seventeen

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Speaker 1: years in prison in California. He has been charged with

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Speaker 1: failing to pay at least one point four million dollars

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Speaker 1: in taxes in a very detailed fifty six page indictment

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Speaker 1: that was released yesterday evening. Lots to break down associated

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Speaker 1: with this what I would say right off the top,

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Speaker 1: Buck is this is exactly what I hoped would happen

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Speaker 1: when Judge Noriyeika, who remains to me a hero here

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Speaker 1: in Delaware, refused to sign off on the sweetheart deal

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Speaker 1: that would have put all of this behind Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: with virtually no consequences. He now faces felonies on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the country, both in I believe Delaware and

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Speaker 1: in California. It's also as a testament to the bravery

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Speaker 1: of the irs whistleblowers who came forward to talk about

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Speaker 1: the preferential treatment that was being received by Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: And also this is a consequence of having a Republican

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Speaker 1: control of the House of Representatives, which would not have

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Speaker 1: otherwise I don't believe led to any charges. Now, I

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Speaker 1: want to get your reaction, Buck. Also, the question that

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Speaker 1: is lingering out there is how does this impact, if

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Speaker 1: at all, Joe Biden's decision to run in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four and or the Democrat Party's decision to keep him

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Speaker 1: in a position of prominence as the nominee and incumbent

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Speaker 1: president running for re election. But I will say this

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Speaker 1: is one that I think I got right in the

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Speaker 1: long run, it took some time. I still think Buck

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Speaker 1: that what I said from the get go, if you

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Speaker 1: go back a couple of years on, this was this

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Speaker 1: is the cover that allows the Department of Justice under

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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland to claim that they don't care about whether

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Speaker 1: you're the former president or the son of the president.

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Speaker 1: They will go after you. Now they tried to avoid

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Speaker 1: going after him. They got caught red handed. And now

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Speaker 1: these are the consequences. These are the felonies that have

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Speaker 1: been brought. There still potentially could be more. But this

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Speaker 1: is the one I've been waiting for because the irs

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Speaker 1: case was very straightforward.

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Speaker 2: So are you ready for a series of scorching hot

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Speaker 2: takes on this?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for this farm this Friday? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, everybody strap in. This will change nothing.

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden is not going to spend a single day

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Speaker 2: in prison. Joe Biden is still going to be the

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Speaker 2: Democrat nominee. Joe Biden will pardon Hunter in December of

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Speaker 2: next year, in almost exactly twelve months to the day.

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Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a Hunter Biden series

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Speaker 2: of pardons the either. I think at that point, because

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Speaker 2: the election will be over. The outgoing Joe Biden either

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Speaker 2: losing to the Republican or stepping down after winning reelection,

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Speaker 2: because you won't care.

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Speaker 1: At that point, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Say we need to take the heat out of our politics,

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Speaker 2: bring the temperature down. And my son is not going

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Speaker 2: to prison. Maybe he'll commute it instead of pardoning him.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, he'll delay the trials as long

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Speaker 2: as he possibly can. Very unlikely that he'll even I

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Speaker 2: you know, correct me if I'm wrong, he'll get to

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Speaker 2: a sensing phase before the election actually happens. And here's

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Speaker 2: what I think is, I mean, everything you said about

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Speaker 2: how you laid it out the Judge Norrieca, there's a

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Speaker 2: possibility here that Judge Norriaca may have ended up preventing

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Speaker 2: the Democrat nominee from becoming the president. Like I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying that will happen, but this could become messier for.

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Speaker 1: Them down the line than was ant and her bravery,

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Speaker 1: I think is being completely underdiscussed in media. She did

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Speaker 2: I mean, but Clay, it's the other side of this is.

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Speaker 2: The plan wasn't charge Hunter then charged Trump to look

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Speaker 2: even handed. The plan was to make the whole thing

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Speaker 2: go away entirely, to make Hunter Biden's serial felony committing

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Speaker 2: just evaporate millions of dollars in tax fraud, wirefraud, paying prostitutes,

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Speaker 2: illegal gun possession, illegal drugs possession. I mean, this guy

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Speaker 2: was a walking, talking felony for years, yeah, years, And

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Speaker 1: Or there's any real doubt about.

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Speaker 2: I know, he's innocent until proven guilty, but it's not

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Speaker 2: like anyone's denying this stuff really happened.

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Speaker 1: And Clay they own they were this close the plan

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Speaker 1: that plea deal. You know it as well as I do.

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Speaker 1: It would have been all over. Hunter Biden would be fine,

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Speaker 1: he would skate totally free. They were this close. But

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Speaker 1: it was so grotesquely unjust that the judge, and I

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Speaker 1: this is appalling, Like you can't you can't actually do this.

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Speaker 1: You can't sneak in additional immunity for things that aren't

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Speaker 1: even covered in the indictment in an appendage paper.

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Speaker 2: That the whole thing. You know that that was about

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Speaker 2: a diversion program. The whole thing was so slimy and

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Speaker 2: so sleazy, But that was the plan, and the prosecutors

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Speaker 2: were in on it. That's the part everyone. It's not

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Speaker 2: just like Hunter's legal team dreamed this up. Federal prosecutors

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Speaker 2: tried to let Hunter get away with all of it.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I think is really

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Speaker 2: That none of the charges that tie to Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: are touched in any of this. This creates that wall

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Speaker 2: of separation where Hunter wasn't paying his taxes and the

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Speaker 2: prostitutes and wrote off this is true, everybody, ten thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars of sex club membership fees as a business expense.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe Hunter has an only fans, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's a business expense. And he did

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Speaker 2: all these things, but Clay, everything that has to do

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Speaker 2: out the statute of limitations.

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Speaker 1: None of it touches him. Therefore they've protected Biden Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden in this process. What do you think so so far?

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Speaker 1: I think this is a mess in a big way

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Speaker 1: for Joe Biden, because even everybody out there who has

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Speaker 1: those people are having to cover a really detailed, fifty

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Speaker 1: back to what you said on particular, Judge Norrieka. Remember

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Speaker 1: they were going to let Hunter Biden off with two

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Speaker 1: now he is facing multiple felony counts on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the country and years in prison. Now I agree

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Speaker 1: Hunter go to prison. I would suspect that in December

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Speaker 1: something like that. After the election happens late November or December,

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Speaker 2: Wins or losing, I don't hold that against Joe Biden. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would not let it. If I were president, my

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Speaker 2: sons aren't going to prison or god would, I would aggressively.

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Speaker 2: What he should have to do is he should have

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Speaker 2: to aggressively answer questions about this, because if we had

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Speaker 2: an honest White House Press Corps buck, they would drill

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden now on Are you going to pardon your son?

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Speaker 2: He probably would say no, And then can you promise

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Speaker 2: to the American public that you will never pardon your son?

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Speaker 1: And I understand he.

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Speaker 2: Would just not Wait, Kelly, He's gonna say my son

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Speaker 2: is innocent until proven guilty. He deserves process. I'm the

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Speaker 2: chief executive. It is not on me to weigh in

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Speaker 2: at this point. Charges have been brought. Let's let the

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Speaker 2: system play out. I will not say anything. We can

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way he's not I but you

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Speaker 1: can easily question him again if we had an honest media,

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Speaker 1: what iweek is important, which we don't. But when you

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Speaker 1: should legitimately grill him. I mean, you heard me grill

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence on whether he would pardon Trump in the

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Speaker 1: event Trump was convicted. I don't think that's a tough hypothetical. Now,

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Speaker 1: presidents answer hypotheticals all the time. In the event your

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Speaker 2: I'm just he's gonna say that there's an active the

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Speaker 2: it's not a crazy thing to say, because that's actually

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Speaker 2: the way that presidents should be about criminal trials. A

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Speaker 2: That's not their job. That's not you know, but we saw,

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Speaker 1: try to push it. Also, we didn't talk about this,

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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty four election motto, unofficially but clearly will

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Speaker 2: be twenty twenty four election, win or go to prison.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the that's the feel, that's the vibe.

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Speaker 2: As a gen Z would say, that's what's going on here.

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Speaker 2: And I think that this is unfortunately precedent setting in

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Speaker 2: a lot of ways that are really troubling but I

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Speaker 2: think that Clay with Hunter Biden, none of this is.

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Speaker 1: This has been known for years.

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Speaker 2: The media has been covering this up as long as

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Speaker 2: look what they've done with so many things that are

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Speaker 2: COVID related. Right, Yeah, eventually they have to admit that

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Speaker 2: all the lies that they told were horrible and that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this, you know, does this move

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Speaker 2: He was one day, one judge, one lucky break from

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Speaker 1: Well, we give you, we got someone we can we

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Speaker 1: Make an appointment with the truth. Tune in every day

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Speaker 1: to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Wis has

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Speaker 2: And that's our friend Anny McCarthy making a couple of

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Speaker 1: How many people even ever owe a million dollars in

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Speaker 2: It was evasion. I mean he's getting paid specifically to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: This is a question that I think is still very

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Speaker 1: You know, if someone told me that, I bet most

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Speaker 1: it's the ultimate no show job.

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Speaker 2: He might have called into a conference call once a

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Speaker 2: year in between cocaine benders or whatever. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: wasn't actually doing anything. So ask the question, what was

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden being paid for? Why was was it CEFC

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Speaker 2: or whatever in the endicament of the Chinese Communist Party?

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Speaker 2: Why was a Chinese intelligence and therefore Communist Party affiliated

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Speaker 2: really a business frontman paying Hunter, giving Hunter millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: We all know the reason for this.

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Speaker 2: Was to get stuff from his dad and his dad's buddies.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there is no other answer. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 1: like he's.

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Speaker 2: A hotshot lawyer who's got a lot of global clients

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Speaker 2: and he's really smart, and you know, he just happens.

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Speaker 1: To have a dad who you know, is the vice

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Speaker 1: president at the time in the United States.

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Speaker 2: He's a degenerate, okay, guy's like barely able to function

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Speaker 2: in the real world, and he's getting millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: for his advice. Of course, he's not getting millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars for his advice. These were bribes. These were bribes

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Speaker 2: paid to the Biden family with Hunter as the cutout,

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Speaker 2: Hunter as the bag man.

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Speaker 1: That's what was going on. And so it frustrates me

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Speaker 1: is that it's all Hunter didn't pay his taxes, Hunter

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Speaker 1: you know was at a sex club.

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Speaker 4: Hunter you know was making uh, the the Median cartel

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Speaker 4: look like a bunch of choir boys like okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: but Clay.

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Speaker 2: The bigger issue here is the Biden family was for sale.

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Speaker 1: The one point was the Iden family was for sale,

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Speaker 1: And I would build on that buck by saying, what

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Speaker 1: is one of the things they try to defend Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden by saying, Well, Joe Biden's just a dad whose

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Speaker 1: son had struggled with addiction. And there are many families

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Speaker 1: out there whose children and grandchildren study with a struggle

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Speaker 1: with addiction. And it's really unfair to put Hunter under

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Speaker 1: this microscope. Let me say, let me point this out,

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Speaker 1: in addition to what you're saying, if your son or

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Speaker 1: daughter struggled with addiction, giving them millions of dollars and

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Speaker 1: making them the bagman for your family is not kind.

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Speaker 1: It isn't in some way an endearing family trait. The

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Speaker 1: reason why Hunter was behaving so recklessly and was able

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Speaker 1: to do so for so long was because he was

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Speaker 1: the bagman, and all of these millions of dollars in

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Speaker 1: payments were funneled through him him. Well, if you knew

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Speaker 1: that your son was a drug addict, and that he

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Speaker 1: had all sorts of personal problems, would you want to

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Speaker 1: ensure that he gets millions of dollars, thereby fueling his

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Speaker 1: addiction to an even greater degree. I mean Biden was complicit.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, Joe Biden was complicit in his son's

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Speaker 1: addiction because he knew all of this was going on,

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Speaker 1: and he still sent millions of dollars in payments through

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Speaker 1: his son. You think about this. One of the first

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Speaker 1: things that people would do if they have a drug

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Speaker 1: addict son who is otherwise or daughter not able to function,

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Speaker 1: is you try to restrict how much access to free

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Speaker 1: cash flow they have. Instead, Biden kept the spigot of

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Speaker 1: cash flowing, which fueled his son's destructive behavior even more.

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Speaker 1: And I think to your point, it's important for everybody

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Speaker 1: out there to also not get totally focused on the

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Speaker 1: salacious ways in which he was spending this money. Although

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Speaker 1: I would point out for most people, if you spent

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of the girls that you were paying,

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Speaker 1: all of those things are not very difficult sex crimes

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Speaker 1: to investigate. We know already there are people getting charged

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Speaker 1: all the time for crossing state lines to pay for sex.

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Speaker 1: It seems like Hunter Biden had an awful lot of

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Speaker 1: hookers crossing state lines. That he was paying for sex,

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Speaker 1: all right, but the money was a bribe and the

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Speaker 1: money came to him entirely because of what his dad did.

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Speaker 1: So claiming that Joe Biden is somehow walled off from

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering, what are people listening all across the country

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Speaker 2: I just got some interesting news in here from our

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Speaker 2: team that.

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Speaker 1: Moby. You guys all remember Moby.

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Speaker 2: He was sort of nineties DJ electronica. It's the music

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Speaker 2: that you would hear playing in the background when you

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Speaker 1: You know, Moby.

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Speaker 2: That guy has a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Uh and Hunter Biden apparently went on the podcast Who's

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Speaker 1: just indicted again. Now let me I'm just picture I've

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Speaker 1: just picked by the way Buck. As funny as this

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Speaker 1: is to you and me to think about, imagine you

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Speaker 1: are Abbe Wowell being paid seventeen hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: an hour or whatever the heck it is, maybe twenty

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars an hour now to advise Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: and your assistant just ran in and said, Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: just did Moby's podcast, and for all just I can

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Speaker 1: only imagine him being like of anybody on the planet

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Speaker 1: that he could do.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, well, okay for that that it's

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Speaker 2: Moby's podcast. I agree with you that that's done. But

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Speaker 2: he's taking this to the public because it's all messaging.

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Speaker 2: He will not spend like mark this down, folks like

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Speaker 2: link to this crazy guy named Buck Sexton today. Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden will not spend one day in jail. He knows it,

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Speaker 2: we should all know it. It's not gonna happen. So

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Speaker 2: all this is then between now and whenever the pardons

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Speaker 2: come is a pr war. So he's gonna a normal

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Speaker 2: You know this, Clay, You're an actual lawyer, normal defendant,

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Speaker 2: and any lawyer is going to say shut your mouth, yes,

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Speaker 2: say nothing up here nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna say it's a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Also, like you see, Trump knows it's all political, so

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Speaker 2: he's out there fighting this out in public to degree

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Speaker 2: that he can. The judges are trying to gag him sometimes,

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Speaker 2: but it's a different situation than what a normal person

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Speaker 2: would have. But the fact that it's Moby.

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Speaker 1: It's Moby. Trump's not doing Jewels podcast. That's right, Ndrop,

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Speaker 1: it's Moby. It's Moby. I mean, if you came on

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Speaker 1: to me right now and you were like, hey, Trump

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Speaker 1: just did a sit down exclusive on his newest charges

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Speaker 1: with Debbie Gibson, I'd be like, I don't know, you

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Speaker 1: know that that it's the best move for Trump to

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Speaker 1: be hanging out with death.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, let's do some respect for Debbie. Okay, my first

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Speaker 2: ever concert, my mom took me. I was ten.

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Speaker 1: I think how about that's funny, Okay. Paul Abduel Paul

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Speaker 1: Abdul is my first ever concert. By the way, really,

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Speaker 1: if if I team Debbie, I color me bad. Was

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Speaker 1: the opener. BBB A D D extra D. That's how

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Speaker 1: bad they were was the opener. And then it went

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Speaker 1: into Paul Abduall, one step forward, two steps back with

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Speaker 1: mc scattcat. For those of you out there who remember,

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Speaker 1: was that the peak because opposite popularity? I remember that

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Speaker 1: music video backwards and forwards. Uh if I told you, hey,

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Speaker 1: Trump has just gone into deep detail about the newest

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Speaker 1: indictment against him, and you're like, Okay, who'd he talk

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Speaker 1: to Megan, Kelly Clay and Buck Tucker Carlson. No, No,

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Speaker 1: he went on with with with Paul Abduall. You'd be like,

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Speaker 1: that's a little bit of an interesting decision. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play that audio for you here to look at you.

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Speaker 1: But it actually kind of makes some sense because he

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Speaker 1: has to go with someone who knows nothing, who's tied

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Speaker 1: him with the Hollywood celebrity set, right. I mean he

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Speaker 1: doesn't like if he went on if he went on

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Speaker 1: Rogan show, I mean, it would be by the way,

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Speaker 1: that would be a I would watch. It would be

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Speaker 1: really interesting. Has an invite on this show. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening right now, Hunter, go ahead and call in. We'll

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Speaker 1: put you on.

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Speaker 2: But but Rogan would ask the obvious and real questions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he would be nice and respectful

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Speaker 2: about it because that's his that's his way. But he

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Speaker 2: would ask like, I mean, come on, man, like, did

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Speaker 2: you really think you're gonna get away with this?

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Speaker 1: Moby's gonna be like yeah, man, it's like the machine

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Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, it's just all nice because Mobi like,

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Speaker 1: why does Moby have a podcast? Are there lots of

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Speaker 1: people out there like I got to know what Moby

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Speaker 1: thinks about anything. I honestly, the only time I think

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Speaker 1: about Moby is I think Moby's most famous for getting

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Speaker 1: ridiculed in the eminem rap song.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the late nineties when everyone, all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, everyone you knew had a blog.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone had a blog. These days everyone has

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Speaker 1: a podcast. But everybody's got a podcast, at least on

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Speaker 1: the blog front in theory. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: rich people had other people writing for them, but at

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Speaker 1: least in theory, it was you writing it. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: Although there is the report that Megan Markle faked her

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Speaker 1: own podcast, which is amazing, right that other people interviewed

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Speaker 1: and she just recorded the questions after the fact. That

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Speaker 1: was what was reported. I start to wonder if maybe

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Speaker 1: she's like a high concept construct as the ultimate celeberty

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Speaker 1: villain like Megan Markle because whatever I hear about her,

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Speaker 1: it just makes her.

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Speaker 2: Less and less likable. But maybe that's the role, like

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Speaker 2: maybe she's playing. And you know what, it's like, the

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Speaker 2: bad guy in wrestling is the heel, right, that's the

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Speaker 2: bad guy.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to put our team into watching this

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Speaker 1: because Moby's podcast has part one with Hunter Biden up

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Speaker 1: on YouTube partner.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go check out. We're gonna check out a

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Speaker 2: little bit of Moby podcast with Hudder Biden because this

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Speaker 2: is crazy town, folks. This is the president's son in

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Speaker 2: an election year. He's just got indicted. Going on with Moby. Also,

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Speaker 2: if you're on hold, stay with us. We'll take some

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Speaker 2: calls because we did ask we want your opinion on

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Speaker 2: all this. And Clay, you still gotta tell me is

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Speaker 2: any of this gonna matter for the election. We're diving

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Speaker 2: into it with Moby revelation threw me off.

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Speaker 1: Buck