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Speaker 1: the episode. Mike, you got him? Hey, what's up? Mike?
Speaker 2: Hey man? You got the real Worldwide Murdock the Hillbilly
Speaker 2: vagabond on with you right now?
Speaker 1: I repeat repeat that.
Speaker 2: For me, The real live Murdoch the Hillbilly Vagabond with
Speaker 2: you right now.
Speaker 1: The real live Murdoch Hillbilly Vagabond. That's you.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, what's your story, Murdoch the Vagabond.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what's probably mind blowing. Most of it sounds
Speaker 2: absolutely unbelievable, but I got pictures to prove it. Just
Speaker 2: pick a region of the world maybe and we can
Speaker 2: start there.
Speaker 3: Or.
Speaker 1: Any region of the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I've pretty much lived everywhere. I've
Speaker 2: a was kind of a crazy hillbilly entrepreneur back in
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 1: Any region of the world, yeah.
Speaker 2: Except and I'll go there one day.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, all right. Ireland, Well, the.
Speaker 2: Only place in Ireland I've been with Shannon. The green
Speaker 2: grass was super green and the beer was good. That
Speaker 2: was more of a transitory spot heading through, but definitely
Speaker 2: a place to visit. Afghanistan, Oh, got well, all over Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: I was there early in the Taliban Last Stan Phase three.
Speaker 2: Kandahar ran up the bag room quite a lot. It
Speaker 2: was hot than cold, lots of dust, of ten months
Speaker 2: of boredom, about ten seconds of terror on occasion. That's
Speaker 2: how that usually went down.
Speaker 1: Alaska, Yeah, toodn't cold.
Speaker 2: That was more of a transitory spot. I played with
Speaker 2: a bunch of things that fly, and there's a lot
Speaker 2: of flying folks up there in Alaska. The best memories
Speaker 2: there was not too many people and that made me happy.
Speaker 1: Uganda, Jambo, Jambo.
Speaker 2: I spent more of most of my Africa time on
Speaker 2: the West coast, but I did have a lot of
Speaker 2: Ugandans that work for me, and they do actually speak
Speaker 2: some Swahili and akunamatada is a real saying and it
Speaker 2: means exactly what Disney said.
Speaker 1: Uh, I can't think of any other places. Oh wait, Greenland.
Speaker 2: Well, I've gone through Greenland a few times and it's
Speaker 2: not green that's an absolute lie. Iceland's actually the cooler place. Greenland.
Speaker 2: It's just rocks and ice.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? What's your deal?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the weird thing is I live about four
Speaker 2: simple rules, but the fourth one is why not? And
Speaker 2: that has taken me all over the world. I started
Speaker 2: a kind of a gold diamond, aluminum or iron ore
Speaker 2: prospecting company in West Africa with some on demand air service.
Speaker 2: Was also got into air rescue and vip flying there.
Speaker 2: Before that, I did air shows and I played with
Speaker 2: war birds, old World War two aircraft, and I've just
Speaker 2: just crazy sailed across the Atlantic on a Polish tall
Speaker 2: ship like a pirate ship. Currently live on a sailboat.
Speaker 2: And right now I'm just a glorified ambulance driver in
Speaker 2: the sky.
Speaker 1: You're a glorified ambulance driver in the sky. What is
Speaker 1: What does that entail?
Speaker 2: Well, I've got the easy job for poor guys in
Speaker 2: the back. Those are the ones that work. I basically
Speaker 2: just take people that's broken, you know, put band aids
Speaker 2: on them and send them to the booboo box.
Speaker 1: Huh when did you start traveling?
Speaker 2: Pretty much right out of high school? I was fortunate
Speaker 2: pre nine to eleven, so I'm kind of old. Got
Speaker 2: picked up for the Army high school to flight school program,
Speaker 2: but got hurt before finishing and went back to the
Speaker 2: work doing that government to stuff and they sent me
Speaker 2: around the world a few times. Got tired of that,
Speaker 2: went into my own contracting, tried to be an entrepreneurial
Speaker 2: type and that landed me by sheer luck and hill
Speaker 2: Billy Witt. Met the right people in the right places,
Speaker 2: and there I went to Africa. Then after that I
Speaker 2: was in the tuna fish business with helicopters in Guadalcanal
Speaker 2: down in the South Pacific. Had a spot in Australia
Speaker 2: that was my support base, and my favorite place was
Speaker 2: Pantape and Micronesia. That was my second base for tuna
Speaker 2: field operation stuff.
Speaker 1: And you you did, you had a tuna field operation
Speaker 1: in Pinta Pey, Australia.
Speaker 2: Pinta Pey, Micronesia. My support base was down not terribly
Speaker 2: far from Melbourne, Australia. It's just easy to get shipments
Speaker 2: in and out of there. But yeah, yeah, And my
Speaker 2: other place was in Guadalcanal, which is the Solomon Islands.
Speaker 2: But my territory went from South America, Central America, all
Speaker 2: the way to Indonesia, to Korea up towards Alaska down
Speaker 2: to New Zealand. I've pretty much been to most every
Speaker 2: island nation there is in the Pacific during that period
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 1: Montana, what about Montana.
Speaker 2: Toune in cold and they got some wicked skeeters that
Speaker 2: you'd never believe. But man, when the skeeter season hits
Speaker 2: up there in that marshy stuff, I ain't about it.
Speaker 2: A lot of folks like it up there, just because
Speaker 2: it's sparsely populated. But I have this thing, it is
Speaker 2: absolutely against my religion to walk on water. If I
Speaker 2: can walk on water, I have to seek a latitude
Speaker 2: more inclined to my personal beliefs.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: By the way, I am Jewish by birth, but I'm
Speaker 2: also a duty priest. So that's been pretty handy going
Speaker 2: around the world because I've got to marry a couple
Speaker 2: of folks off you know, and the interesting places.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you explain what you mean
Speaker 1: by it's against your religion to walk on water?
Speaker 2: How so well, I figured there was only one guy
Speaker 2: religiously that was good enough to do that. So if
Speaker 2: water becomes solid, it is no longer a climate in
Speaker 2: which I can sustain myself. Therefore I seek something much
Speaker 2: more inclined to like Margarita's sunsets, you know, feet on
Speaker 2: the beach.
Speaker 1: You're saying it, like, is it sacrilegious to walk on
Speaker 1: to like walk on ice?
Speaker 2: Just for me, that's real number three. It's only my
Speaker 2: business if I can walk on water, not But if
Speaker 2: I can't stand on solid water, it's too dang cold.
Speaker 1: So you started off Jewish and then you became you
Speaker 1: said a dudast priest. What is that?
Speaker 2: Well, No, I was born Jewish. That that's that's kind
Speaker 2: of different. That's that's a whole genetic thing. I was
Speaker 2: never practicing, but I do have a yamaka and I
Speaker 2: can blend down on occasion. But yeah, no, I've been
Speaker 2: through a whole lot of religions trying to find my place.
Speaker 2: I've been through that wonderful Latter day Saints. They have
Speaker 2: some real interesting ideas out there. But I might have
Speaker 2: been a little bit too much of a womanizer for
Speaker 2: for their particular inclination, so they didn't want me to
Speaker 2: stick around too much.
Speaker 1: I thought that I thought that Mormons have like a
Speaker 1: lot of wives.
Speaker 2: Well that's only one group of them. Uh, strangely enough,
Speaker 2: there is a group that is that way. And again
Speaker 2: rule number three, that ain't my business what they do.
Speaker 2: They're happy doing that that to them, But I found
Speaker 2: that it is awful dang hard for me to please
Speaker 2: want much less multiple women. So I have attempted and
Speaker 2: was unsuccessful. I've given that laugh.
Speaker 1: Up alright, So what is a dudast priest?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, dudas priests. We just kind of followed the
Speaker 2: morals and ideas and the ways of the dude, which
Speaker 2: came from a great movie which I shall not name
Speaker 2: just for copyright reasons, but the ideas to be too.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is all from the Big Labet. Are you
Speaker 1: doing a bit right now? No?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not doing a bit right now. This is
Speaker 2: my actual real life. I'm telling you, I'm probably that
Speaker 2: most interested man in the world. Commercial was modeled after
Speaker 2: me and I just didn't know it.
Speaker 1: I have a question, go ahead, how did you end up? Like?
Speaker 1: How did you find me on Twitch and call me?
Speaker 1: How did you end up here?
Speaker 2: Actually? Enough, my coworker here, uh, probably the most educated
Speaker 2: and talented paramedic in the world. He's a whole lot
Speaker 2: more than that, but he just fixes busted up people
Speaker 2: that I fly him around. But that being said, he
Speaker 2: is an avid follower of you, and we've been talking
Speaker 2: here for almost a year since this new base opened up.
Speaker 2: He goes, man, you have got to tell your story
Speaker 2: to the therapy get go. I'm like what, he goes Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, well put him on some time and I
Speaker 2: started listening to you myself. I'm like, that's some pretty
Speaker 2: cool stuff you got going on. But I mean, if
Speaker 2: we really want to get up mind blowing. You know,
Speaker 2: any one of my numerous stories is mind blowing enough
Speaker 2: and absolutely unbelievable, but I got pictures to prove it.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason I probably haven't been burnt at
Speaker 2: the stake.
Speaker 1: So where are you at in your religious beliefs now?
Speaker 2: I am once called a free agent. I've quite literally
Speaker 2: lived with every culture of the world. I mean, being American,
Speaker 2: the kind of default you grow up in the Christian faithhood.
Speaker 2: But I've had a hard time with that in my
Speaker 2: past because I've I've went to numerous from the guys
Speaker 2: you know, ha handling snakes and stuff a little bit
Speaker 2: too crazy for me, even the Mormons, like I was saying,
Speaker 2: I spent some time at the Jewish Temple trying to
Speaker 2: find my way. Even I've been through a whole lot
Speaker 2: of Ramadans, and our good friends out out in the
Speaker 2: Mid East hung out with them, uh and even craziest
Speaker 2: some pals and Buddhists, And I could really dig the
Speaker 2: Buddhist way because that that kind of fills towards the
Speaker 2: Dudhist priest way. You know, be chill, live within your
Speaker 2: means and don't don't cause harm to others. But I
Speaker 2: just don't know. I can't say one hundred percent where
Speaker 2: I fit in, and until that day comes, I'll just
Speaker 2: kind of be a free agent.
Speaker 1: What's your name again?
Speaker 2: I'm Mike. My old call sign marmee call sign was Murdoch.
Speaker 2: That's that's the crazy.
Speaker 1: Hell right murder? All right, well I'll call you Mike. Mike.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your family friends situation? Who's who's around
Speaker 1: you in your life? Uh?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: That that vagabond vagabond? Uh side of me? I stayed
Speaker 2: pretty much on the go. I have a couple of
Speaker 2: good close friends, but otherwise I just have a world
Speaker 2: full of acquaintances, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Where are you now?
Speaker 2: I am currently in a little town in south central Illinois,
Speaker 2: and I'm real, real hillbilly from Tennessee. That that's home bases, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: And this guy that you are working with now is
Speaker 1: is listens to the podcast and showed you.
Speaker 2: This because very religiously surely that's why. After he was
Speaker 2: hearing some of my stories, which again totally unbelievable, he goes,
Speaker 2: you have got to talk to the therapy. Get go.
Speaker 2: And I just tried call him to you. One hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty two times and finally it came through.
Speaker 1: So all right, you have just acquaintances because of your
Speaker 1: vagabond life. Let me let me bring something up to you.
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on it. Going anywhere
Speaker 1: in the world, anytime you want, doing whatever you want,
Speaker 1: all the time, no restrictions, nobody to tell you what
Speaker 1: you can and can't do, complete and other total freedom.
Speaker 1: Is that freedom or loneliness?
Speaker 2: It depends if you're comfortable in your loneliness or comfortable
Speaker 2: being solitary and alone, then it's abso loot freedom. I'd
Speaker 2: say humans are born to be somewhat social. I think
Speaker 2: we're a little too socialized now with all the social
Speaker 2: media stuff, which I believe is causing problems. But out there,
Speaker 2: one of my favorite places is Micronesia. The island nation
Speaker 2: of Micronesia, sparsely populated rainforest out on little islands throughout
Speaker 2: the Pacific. A government came in another Again, try not
Speaker 2: to get too detailed, because you can connect too many dots.
Speaker 2: But a supporting government bought them a bunch of fishing boats,
Speaker 2: big commercial fishing boats, and gave them to them and said,
Speaker 2: here you go, we want you to fish. Because other
Speaker 2: large nations around you are fishing up your fisheries. He goes, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's a good idea. You can make a lot of money,
Speaker 2: a lot of wealth. And they took one boat out
Speaker 2: one time, fished for about three hours, brought it back
Speaker 2: and they all sink. And this government came back and said,
Speaker 2: why the heck did you do that? That is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Do you not understand that you could make tons of
Speaker 2: money and sit on the beach and never worry again
Speaker 2: and just watch the sunset? He goes, boss, we do
Speaker 2: that now. And that has pretty much what has led
Speaker 2: my life around the world. Is not ever worrying about
Speaker 2: acquiring wealth or a grand status. I just live for today,
Speaker 2: get out.
Speaker 1: Well but well, so back to like the whole like
Speaker 1: social aspect of this. Do you not ever feel lonely
Speaker 1: or feel as though you want to have a recurring
Speaker 1: network of people in your life or is that something
Speaker 1: you've kind of abandoned.
Speaker 2: Well, it's never abandoned. I just never considered it. I
Speaker 2: considered things more on a functional basis, and life for me,
Speaker 2: just following my four simple rules was made enough acquaintances
Speaker 2: and friends around the world that I never worried about it.
Speaker 2: But I was still perfectly content. I'd spent many months
Speaker 2: totally alone in an African jungle, all by myself, just
Speaker 2: waiting on a rescue call and totally supporting myself independently, nothing,
Speaker 2: no contact with the outside world other than a really
Speaker 2: expensive satellite data uplink, but that's another story. And I
Speaker 2: was absolutely content. I'd say I'm probably the most happy
Speaker 2: sitting on my sailboat, just floating around on my own thoughts.
Speaker 2: I know that's probably weird for most, but that's just
Speaker 2: how I've always operated.
Speaker 1: Ca'st how old you are?
Speaker 2: I absolutely I am forty one.
Speaker 1: And you've been doing this since you came into high school?
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, pretty much since graduation. I've just had the
Speaker 2: travel bug, and simply keeping myself frugal and unattached to
Speaker 2: things has allowed me to go all over. And the
Speaker 2: whole key to that is is never saying, ooh, maybe
Speaker 2: I shouldn't. I never said that as long as it
Speaker 2: was within my means and I wasn't going into debt
Speaker 2: to do it. Why not? Real number four? And I
Speaker 2: struck out?
Speaker 1: And how did you? I mean, basic stuff like the
Speaker 1: ability to eat and the ability to sleep in a
Speaker 1: place where you're not in danger.
Speaker 2: Well, it was very dangerous areas. But another weird quirk,
Speaker 2: I guess in the psychology, psychiatry, whatever how people work
Speaker 2: is I always presented myself this very friendly but not
Speaker 2: too friendly. I'm absolutely not a bad dude by any ways,
Speaker 2: but I can call a big bluff so long as
Speaker 2: especially Africa was this way because they're strangely enough, I
Speaker 2: was the minority and had very very good friends, but
Speaker 2: there's also some bad actors there, and I just made
Speaker 2: it known that this guy's probably a little too crazy
Speaker 2: to mess with and would not be worth our time.
Speaker 2: So that's how I did that. Now, there was some
Speaker 2: dangerous events that happened, and I eventually, due to the
Speaker 2: political problems going on in West Africa, decided it's best
Speaker 2: to leave because old Ron Tater Salad said, I don't
Speaker 2: know how many it would take to woop my ass,
Speaker 2: but I don't know how many they're going to use
Speaker 2: kind of deal.
Speaker 1: And who is who is Ron Tater Salad?
Speaker 2: Oh he's a comedian Ron White. Yeah, but AnyWho, so
Speaker 2: about and got out of there, pretty much sold out
Speaker 2: of that business. When the po politics started getting real, well,
Speaker 2: and that's when I got into the tuna fish.
Speaker 1: So what uh why then was the thinking, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like these places like uh, like like certain parts
Speaker 1: of Africa, and like the Afghanistan and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: anywhere else that maybe has a reputation of being like dangerous.
Speaker 1: What have you learned about that danger whether whether or
Speaker 1: not it is it is true to the rumor of itself,
Speaker 1: it is not.
Speaker 2: There are places right here in the States that I
Speaker 2: would consider far more dangerous than most of the Third
Speaker 2: World nations I've been to, except for a few that
Speaker 2: are really politically heated right now, Uh, then you just
Speaker 2: use common sense.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I had a great time in Africa.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was wonderful, great people. The number of times I
Speaker 2: would have a bad situation, I feel was far less
Speaker 2: than me being in a rough part of our own country.
Speaker 2: And you know, other than it being the Third World
Speaker 2: and not having Walmart and Sacksmith Avenue down the road
Speaker 2: or go to a McDonald's taco bell, you kind of
Speaker 2: got to learn how to survive on their means and
Speaker 2: their economy. But other than that, it was it was
Speaker 2: a great experience there. All over the Philippines was great.
Speaker 2: Australia New Zealand, even up North Canada, going into the Arctic,
Speaker 2: all over Europe, you name it. I even lived in
Speaker 2: downtown Paris for a while, but I really didn't like that.
Speaker 2: It was cool to visit for like a week. I
Speaker 2: stayed way too long and it just became annoying. And
Speaker 2: I understand why the folks in Paris get annoyed, because
Speaker 2: it's way too many darn tourists. They're just buggy to death.
Speaker 1: So after having traveled everywhere in the worlds and having
Speaker 1: like meeting all these people and doing all these things,
Speaker 1: do you are you bored? Are you like I already
Speaker 1: did everything and talked to everyone, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: you've one hundred percent completed the game.
Speaker 2: Strangely enough, I was just talking with us, all of
Speaker 2: my crew, because what I'm doing is pretty much in
Speaker 2: game of helicopter flying, and like, aren't you bored? I'm like,
Speaker 2: now you know again, I'm not a manly man, but
Speaker 2: I got way too many holes punched in the man car.
Speaker 2: I just really enjoy today. I'm also a cancer survivor.
Speaker 2: I almost died of cancer three years ago, ironically, from
Speaker 2: toxic exposure in Iraq, and that really changed my perspective.
Speaker 2: I was already a very outgoing and adventurous person. But
Speaker 2: after that, you know, and pretty much look at God
Speaker 2: in the face, and with the doctors and staff and
Speaker 2: nurse all telling you you need to make your peace
Speaker 2: with everything, I'm like, no, no, I'm going to walk
Speaker 2: out of here in about two weeks and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get back to it. And they're like, that's that's a
Speaker 2: great attitude. I'm like, no, that's exactly what I'm going
Speaker 2: to do. And I did, and I walked out of
Speaker 2: there and got back to flying. You know, that was
Speaker 2: a bit of a hard thing to do post cancer,
Speaker 2: but was able to do it and still kicking it.
Speaker 2: And I really legitimately enjoy every day. I tour around
Speaker 2: on a motorcycle. We even have my own little YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to plug myself for nothing. But I
Speaker 2: travel all over the country doing what I do, ride
Speaker 2: my little motorcycle and camp in the woods, or if
Speaker 2: I'm tired, I find a hotel and everywhere I stop,
Speaker 2: I try to meet new people and hear their story.
Speaker 2: And that's what really drives me, is to just the
Speaker 2: sheer adventure of everything. It's not trying to gain wealth.
Speaker 2: They're building empire. My most valuable stuff is my experiences
Speaker 2: and my memories, and maybe one day or a movie
Speaker 2: will be made about it. But otherwise I'm just content
Speaker 2: to be the hillbilly Vagabond and just kind of tour
Speaker 2: around and say, Hi.
Speaker 1: Is your YouTube channel called the Hillbilly Vagabond.
Speaker 2: No, it's Murdoch the Hillbilly Vagabond. That's the YouTube channel.
Speaker 2: But again, I'm not trying to plug my I'm legitimately
Speaker 2: just wanting to talk to you because my good buddy
Speaker 2: here that follows you religiously is just been blowing me
Speaker 2: up for at least six months to make this phone call.
Speaker 1: So, Murdoch with the cancer thing, so you have all
Speaker 1: these doctors and nurses look you in the face and
Speaker 1: tell you that you need to make your peace with God,
Speaker 1: and you know that you're going to die. And then
Speaker 1: you said, no, that's not what's happening. I'm going to
Speaker 1: walk out it for in two weeks. And you said
Speaker 1: it very confidently. What what's going on there? What gave
Speaker 1: you so much confidence in that moment.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to an earlier question, you know, where
Speaker 2: you were asking me, how how did all of this come.
Speaker 2: And I honestly believe there's something too speaking into existence
Speaker 2: or willing it to be, because I don't dwell on
Speaker 2: anything negative. It's everybody has it, you know. And you
Speaker 2: feel that little pit of anxiety in your stomach when
Speaker 2: something bad happens or something in the past that pops up,
Speaker 2: like that little voice in your head that just kind
Speaker 2: of pops up. I'd literally tell that little voice to
Speaker 2: shut the hell up, and I roll along. And what
Speaker 2: I want to happen, I put it in my head.
Speaker 2: I literally envisioned the picture of what I want to happen,
Speaker 2: and I try my best to will it to be.
Speaker 2: Some people call it prayer. Some people call it, you know, magic.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I think there's something too.
Speaker 2: Stopping and really thinking hard about what you want to
Speaker 2: do and just simply believing you can do it and
Speaker 2: you will do it. There's no camp, there's no maybe.
Speaker 2: And when they were telling me, you know, so, you
Speaker 2: better start doing this, the chaplain's coming down, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: that's that's great. I understand your concern. That is legit.
Speaker 2: It would not be wise for me to not go
Speaker 2: ahead and plan for things. But I'm telling you, in
Speaker 2: about two weeks, I'll be walking out here and I
Speaker 2: do huh.
Speaker 1: And you know, have you ever a lot of people
Speaker 1: would call what you would could call what you're talking
Speaker 1: about something like to be manifesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but yeah.
Speaker 1: So have you ever really tried to manifest something that
Speaker 1: didn't come true for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again it's all in the expectations. Previous to
Speaker 2: this job. Up until about twenty fifteen, I lived overseas
Speaker 2: almost exclusively, and long story short, some things happen. I
Speaker 2: might or might not have had a little run end
Speaker 2: with the tax collector, and that drastically altered my life
Speaker 2: after that, and I was quite resentful, you know, because
Speaker 2: I had worked really hard, and to mind you, I
Speaker 2: was that statistical kid, you know, single mom straight out
Speaker 2: the single wide in the darn Hill Billy part of Tennessee,
Speaker 2: where most everybody would figure you're just going to be
Speaker 2: a tobacco farmer or something. And I just decided, at
Speaker 2: that young age, I was going to do something about that.
Speaker 2: And I did. Became the youngest warrant officer candidate in
Speaker 2: the Army at the time, nineteen years old in Warren
Speaker 2: Offer candidate school. Unfortunately got hurt, you know, and that
Speaker 2: ended my short Army career, but still didn't stop me.
Speaker 2: I kept pursuing my dream of flying, and I turned
Speaker 2: that into every aspect of it, flying airplanes, flying helicopters.
Speaker 2: I became a licensed mechanic, then a federal inspector of aircraft,
Speaker 2: added an airspace engineering degree on top of that, and
Speaker 2: built my own little nish empire by traveling around the
Speaker 2: world and setting up these operations and clandestine environments and huh,
Speaker 2: that's just because I believed I could do it. But
Speaker 2: then again, the wonderful government decided that I needed to
Speaker 2: donate all that the society for the betterment of everybody,
Speaker 2: which you know, some people think is a good thing.
Speaker 2: This redistribution of wealth. That made me angry for a
Speaker 2: little bit, but I got over it got me this
Speaker 2: awesome job helping people again, flying a glorified eight million
Speaker 2: dollar amber lamps in the sky, and man, I've been
Speaker 2: really enjoying that and I've never looked back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you know, so, so you had you had this
Speaker 1: this business and you were setting up like uh uh,
Speaker 1: it sounds too complicated for me to understand what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to put in a place where I can
Speaker 1: understand it. You had this business where you were like
Speaker 1: setting up these arrow you were setting up planes. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you were doing airplane stuff in many different countries.
Speaker 1: And eventually the tax collectors came and the tax collectors
Speaker 1: were like, hey, you owe us like a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh fuck. And so your business was
Speaker 1: basically destroyed. And then you had to get a real job.
Speaker 1: And now you're working your job. Job Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: Real job? I mean, I'm getting paid to do some
Speaker 2: awesome stuff, so I can't complain. Uh, But that's pretty
Speaker 2: much how it went down. And to be known, it
Speaker 2: was my fault. I was ignorance of the tax laws.
Speaker 2: So it's not like I'm bashing stuff. I made a
Speaker 2: legit screw up, and and it's all all done in
Speaker 2: the past.
Speaker 3: Moved on.
Speaker 2: But since that point I kind of lost that ambitious drive.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. I'm super happy just existing today and
Speaker 2: not worrying about building that empire for tomorrow. And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of us get caught up in that
Speaker 2: drive to try to prove that we're valuable by showing
Speaker 2: that we've accumulated stuff and money and things, and I
Speaker 2: think that's really driving a lot of sadness in today's world.
Speaker 1: So you had this business. It you've you fucked up
Speaker 1: with the tax thing, and the business was shut down,
Speaker 1: and at the time, you were a very ambitious focused
Speaker 1: like let me build my empire, let me build my status,
Speaker 1: let me build my wealth. Yes, and that all that
Speaker 1: got depleted and then that kind of started you on
Speaker 1: the path to where you are right now, where you
Speaker 1: feel as though you're living more more for every day itself.
Speaker 2: Yep, sure enough, that's pretty much how it went. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot more complicated that, but that's
Speaker 2: the simple way. But still it's been a hell of
Speaker 2: a life seeing the whole world many times over. It
Speaker 2: just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't either. How long ago did this happen with
Speaker 1: the tax thing.
Speaker 2: I was twenty fifteen, Okay, that was when I was
Speaker 2: no longer the international man of Mystery, and then I
Speaker 2: just turned into good old Murder the ambulance driver.
Speaker 1: And are you happier since that happens?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. It was an unimaginable weight lifted off
Speaker 2: of man. I mean, when you have dozens and dozens
Speaker 2: of forward bases all over the world, handling hundreds of
Speaker 2: employees their visas, their paychecks, half of them at different countries,
Speaker 2: knowing what currency they want to get paid in. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, having the high attrition rates because a lot
Speaker 2: of places I work, most people wouldn't want to be so,
Speaker 2: you know, you had to be real selective in hiring.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Most wouldn't last six weeks, you know, out in the
Speaker 2: middle of the Pacific on a stinky old fish boat,
Speaker 2: or in West Africa. You know, most people are are
Speaker 2: very spoiled on their first world luxuries. We'll just say so.
Speaker 2: It was. It was a very stressful job. I did
Speaker 2: enjoy it because I felt I was contributing to the world.
Speaker 2: But now, you know, looking back on it, it was
Speaker 2: a heck of an adventure. But I'm just darn happy
Speaker 2: to be alive today and talking to the therapy get
Speaker 2: go m.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking a lot about what you're saying. It
Speaker 1: makes the hell of a lot of sense. I think
Speaker 1: about it in my own life, you know, because I
Speaker 1: feel like I lose, I lose. One thing I really
Speaker 1: try to think about all the time is the fact
Speaker 1: that that life is such a it's so short, and
Speaker 1: so even though fun imagined short.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've got great mentors in their nineties, you know,
Speaker 2: in their minds, they're still thirty years old, twenty years old,
Speaker 2: and they can't believe it happened so fast. So that's all.
Speaker 2: If I could impart anything is as sad as everybody
Speaker 2: is in today's hyper connected world, is to just slow
Speaker 2: down a minute, breathe, turn all of that stuff off,
Speaker 2: and just enjoy you and your immediate surroundings for at
Speaker 2: least an hour or two a day. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: so much. It's hard to do because this stuff's addicting.
Speaker 2: It's it's probably the most addicting drug in the world,
Speaker 2: the old tiki takies, and then the YouTube's Heck, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to cash in on it with my whole YouTube experiment,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know. It's interesting how conversation always
Speaker 2: goes to I had no idea what I was going
Speaker 2: to talk about other than crazy adventures, but it usually
Speaker 2: ends up being philosophical because it's the same question I
Speaker 2: get from anybody that ever asks about my crazy life
Speaker 2: is why, And I'm like, I can't give you a why.
Speaker 2: I just did what made me feel happy, and I
Speaker 2: kept choosing a direction that I felt would continue the happiness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I was saying, I think about it
Speaker 1: in my own life. It's weird, you know, because I
Speaker 1: think what I do is has afforded me uh an
Speaker 1: opportunity to like go travel places and do things and
Speaker 1: live these these adventures. Because everything that you're talking about
Speaker 1: is important to you. It's important to me too, going
Speaker 1: on adventures and meeting people and whatnot. But uh, I
Speaker 1: think it's important to like kind of I don't know,
Speaker 1: maintain uh, maintain this, maintain side of that, and to
Speaker 1: really keep in mind just how short life is and say,
Speaker 1: let that be a significant I mean, it's really really
Speaker 1: important thing to think about every day and and have
Speaker 1: guide your your your choices. Ye.
Speaker 2: You know, way too many people don't don't and I
Speaker 2: mean by don't mean everything, They just don't because of
Speaker 2: that fear of well what if this or what if that?
Speaker 2: You know, and just lose out. I went my four
Speaker 2: simple rules. These are my rules. I didn't get them
Speaker 2: from anybody else. I just made them up about twenty
Speaker 2: years ago, as I live.
Speaker 1: Offski is it.
Speaker 2: No, this is my own, this is my own stuff.
Speaker 2: It was just something funny that I got into and anyway,
Speaker 2: that is a whole nother story. But live off of
Speaker 2: what you earn. If I did not earn it, I
Speaker 2: don't deserve it. That just basically means there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that's been really well off out there. I
Speaker 2: just try never to be jealous of what they have,
Speaker 2: you know. And rule number three is the most important rule.
Speaker 1: If you skip, you skipped rule number two.
Speaker 2: Rule number two is if you didn't earn it, I
Speaker 2: don't deserve it. Rule number one is I live off
Speaker 2: of what I earned, so I try not to go
Speaker 2: into debt for things.
Speaker 1: I didn't realized that That hard.
Speaker 2: Rule three, that's the most important, most important rule is
Speaker 2: mind your business and demand those around your mind theirs.
Speaker 2: That is a hard one to do, but you know,
Speaker 2: the key to being yourself is don't get yourself tangled
Speaker 2: up in other people's business. You know, always try to
Speaker 2: do good, never do harm. But at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, don't go poke your nose in somebody else's stuff.
Speaker 2: The same way they you should tell others not to
Speaker 2: get involved in your business. And then number four is
Speaker 2: the fund rule. So long as rule one, two and
Speaker 2: three are satisfied, that is why not? It's not what if?
Speaker 2: That is why not. You get an opportunity that comes
Speaker 2: up and it satisfies one, two and three, then by
Speaker 2: all means, give it a shot. Don't do a what if?
Speaker 2: Go why not? You know, and you never know where
Speaker 2: that's going to take you.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that Belgium. You ever been
Speaker 1: to Belgium?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I pretty much did the whole European tour, and
Speaker 2: honestly the best way to do it is by train.
Speaker 2: But I never lived there, so I can't give you
Speaker 2: the context of like culture other than that that edge
Speaker 2: of Europe you know.
Speaker 1: Uh, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Europe is everybody thinks here in America, you know,
Speaker 2: as America. The borderers around US. America is huge. You
Speaker 2: go to Europe from basically Saint Petersburg, Russia all the
Speaker 2: way to Lisbon, Portugal is not nearly as big as
Speaker 2: the US, and all it takes is a few hours
Speaker 2: transit time, and you're in a totally different country with
Speaker 2: totally different cultures, totally different languages, and they've been there
Speaker 2: for thousands of years. It's definitely worth seeing and I
Speaker 2: would recommend if you do it, on the.
Speaker 1: Train Murdoch the Hillbilly vagabonds as me, and that's your
Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well.
Speaker 2: It is Ye, old Murdoch came up from my army
Speaker 2: days because I was a crazy kid that could fly everything.
Speaker 2: And what's funny was here years later. I read the
Speaker 2: bio for the character Murdoch from the A Team and
Speaker 2: it's literally me, even though I'm younger than you know.
Speaker 2: Eighteen was out in the eighties, which was my young
Speaker 2: childhood days, but the bio for Murdoch is ridiculously identical
Speaker 2: to who I am.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a couple final questions. What do you
Speaker 1: feel like you learned learned about humanity through all of
Speaker 1: your trials, your travels.
Speaker 2: All right, well this was going to get deep, all right,
Speaker 2: hit man. What I've learned about humanity is, no matter
Speaker 2: what race, what religion, what culture, where you've grown up,
Speaker 2: where you were born, where you've traveled to, for the
Speaker 2: most part, everybody laughs and cries to the same thing.
Speaker 2: Another thing I've learned about humanity is that as individuals,
Speaker 2: most people tend to be good. You know, if I
Speaker 2: was in any country of the world and I'm just
Speaker 2: one on one with somebody else, you know we immediately
Speaker 2: can get along have a good time. The caveat is
Speaker 2: what I call tribalism, and this is where things go
Speaker 2: downhill fast. And that is when you have any group
Speaker 2: of people who identify more with their group and then
Speaker 2: regard any other group, you always have problems. And that's
Speaker 2: everything for grace, religion, culture, where you're born in the world.
Speaker 2: That tribalism is what's causing so many problems today is
Speaker 2: because they we can't just live to be me. They
Speaker 2: have to be part of some groups. And my group,
Speaker 2: by golly, is better than your groups, and it always
Speaker 2: starts a conflict where every individual person, even in the
Speaker 2: middle of war. You know, I've been in terrible war
Speaker 2: zones and had the most enlightened, enlightening conversations with who's
Speaker 2: supposed to be my enemy, you know, and we are
Speaker 2: the greatest of friends. But tomorrow, once he is back
Speaker 2: part of his group, it will be his job to
Speaker 2: kill me. And I just could never subscribe. That's why
Speaker 2: I consider myself a free agent. I don't belong to
Speaker 2: any group. I am just me. I'm the old hillbilly
Speaker 2: named Murdoch, and I'm just here to meet people continue
Speaker 2: my own adventure and mind my business and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 2: I can help somebody else along the way.
Speaker 1: And when you die, Murdoch, when your adventure comes to
Speaker 1: an end, what do you think happens?
Speaker 2: That all depends. I'm probably going to go out like
Speaker 2: a legend. So when they put me in the box,
Speaker 2: if there's a box, if they could even find me,
Speaker 2: because who knows where I'm going to be when I
Speaker 2: finally check out. But I definitely want, if that's the situation,
Speaker 2: folks to come up look at me and absolutely shudder.
Speaker 2: I want them to like gasp and say, that guy
Speaker 2: lived one hell of a life and it can tell
Speaker 2: I could see, you know rough, but you know, it's
Speaker 2: just because I have earned that right to have such
Speaker 2: a crazy ass life in the adventure that I've gone through.
Speaker 2: But most likely I'll never be found because I probably
Speaker 2: want to check back out of society in a few years,
Speaker 2: get back on my boat and start going round. I've
Speaker 2: almost made it all the way around the world on
Speaker 2: a sailboat. I've still got the Indian Ocean and the
Speaker 2: Mediterranean left. So once I check out, you know, I'll
Speaker 2: might do a Facebook post an occasional upload to my
Speaker 2: YouTube channel what I'm doing. But that's pretty much the
Speaker 2: only contact I want to have with first world society
Speaker 2: after that.
Speaker 1: But do you do you have any thoughts about I
Speaker 1: don't know the like, did you believe in a life
Speaker 1: after death like a heaven or hell or a reincarnation or.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you what it is what that's going
Speaker 2: to be, but just the scientists didn't be one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: You cannot create nor destroy energy, so we have to
Speaker 2: transmit from one something something to another. There is no
Speaker 2: way you can destroy any kind of memory. There's another
Speaker 2: word for it, but basically information can't be destroyed once
Speaker 2: it's created. Whatever your soul is, you know, just believe
Speaker 2: exactly what you want to believe that there is something else,
Speaker 2: because that definitely gives you peace at the end. If
Speaker 2: I check out tomorrow, I'm absolutely at peace with that.
Speaker 2: But what religion might be correct? I can't answer that.
Speaker 2: But I have been around enough people who have died
Speaker 2: in my presence, and I don't mean that in a
Speaker 2: weird way. It's just something else I've been through to
Speaker 2: almost feel kind of an energy when they die, And
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother story. I can go down it's
Speaker 2: a big rabbit hole. On the philosophical side. Also have
Speaker 2: an honorary degree in metaphysics PhD actually in metaphysics. Do
Speaker 2: a lot of deep thought around there, and still I
Speaker 2: can't say where I fit into it. So but I
Speaker 2: absolutely do think believe. I can't say I know because
Speaker 2: I can't possibly know, but I believe that when we
Speaker 2: leave this realm, we're starting a new adventure. I just
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 1: It is, you know, I've always I was talking to
Speaker 1: my friend about this. When I die, I kind of
Speaker 1: don't want to be put in like a box, like
Speaker 1: just throw me in the dirt, right because I do
Speaker 1: I agree with what you said. The energy like it
Speaker 1: has to go somewhere. And I think if I die
Speaker 1: in a box, I'm not leaving the box. Throw me
Speaker 1: in the dirt so the ants can eat me and
Speaker 1: then I can I can like become ants or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyways, you know who we are in
Speaker 2: my belief anyways, just the energy contained in the body.
Speaker 2: The body is just our robot that we control, you know, basically,
Speaker 2: so when you leave, the body quits work, and that
Speaker 2: was just you know, it's just now a used car
Speaker 2: that don't work anymore kind of if that makes sense, No.
Speaker 1: It does, I I do. I do have that feeling
Speaker 1: about you know, we're just like renting our bodies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I have this big thing I'm going through
Speaker 1: and thinking about of like everyone being each other and
Speaker 1: like I'm all bad things and I'm all good things
Speaker 1: because we all come from the same whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, we go scientifically, we are one hundred
Speaker 2: percent made in the supernova of a star. We all
Speaker 2: started as I'm not a believer in the Big Bang.
Speaker 2: That's a whole other thing I can go down, uh
Speaker 2: scientifically anyway. But everything we are, in every rock, every tree,
Speaker 2: everything around us, you me, everybody is made starting from hydrogen.
Speaker 2: It was fused and the helium fused in the heavier elements.
Speaker 2: That only came about through the death of a supernova star.
Speaker 2: And somehow we all kind of swirled around gravity pulled
Speaker 2: everything together, and then we organized into what we call life.
Speaker 2: And there's religious aspects to that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I can't fathom how many different things it came to be,
Speaker 2: how many coincidences for matter to start reproducing and turn
Speaker 2: into sentient life, you know. So that's the philosophical side.
Speaker 2: But that's what books me so much of everybody that
Speaker 2: can't get along. And I know that's been said to
Speaker 2: add nauseum, but we're literally built of the same crap.
Speaker 2: Why do we gotta fight?
Speaker 1: Ah? Well, Murdoch the hillbilly vagabonds. This has been a
Speaker 1: nice Uh, it's been a nice time talking with you, man.
Speaker 1: I really do a prepreciate it. You're hitting on stuff
Speaker 1: that I've been, you know, thinking about in my personal
Speaker 1: life a lot. So it's it's good to get the
Speaker 1: chat with you. You've inspired me to, you know, look
Speaker 1: beyond my immediates, both look beyond my immediate surroundings for
Speaker 1: more adventure and also the the the opposite of, just
Speaker 1: like you said, trying to sit within them. Yeah, yeah, venture.
Speaker 1: There is there anything that you want to save to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we get out of here.
Speaker 2: Nope, just live for today. Don't worry about everything going
Speaker 2: on around you. Live for today. Try to find one
Speaker 2: thing in your immediate surroundings every day that makes you happy,
Speaker 2: and instead of worrying about bills and taxes and medical problems,
Speaker 2: just for that little bit of time, just think of
Speaker 2: how lucky you are to have that one little piece
Speaker 2: of happiness and enjoy it, and then while doing that,
Speaker 2: try to think and manifest, as you'd say, what you
Speaker 2: would want to be better tomorrow. And that's it. Don't
Speaker 2: don't go two years from now. It's only works for
Speaker 2: a few days at a time. Anytime you try to
Speaker 2: really push for that long term, there's it's just too
Speaker 2: much just being happy.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a roll of paper towels right now,
Speaker 1: and hey, I've decided. I've decided that I'm not going
Speaker 1: to pay my taxes.
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you, uh, the outcome of that
Speaker 2: if you would like to know. It's probably not too pleasant.
Speaker 1: I think I can. I think I think I can guess. Well, well, Murdock,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, man. I appreciate you talking to
Speaker 1: me for so long. And I'll have to check out
Speaker 1: your your YouTube channel. Thanks for sharing all this stuff
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Take care man. Yes, sir, I liked I liked Murdoch
Speaker 1: and he made me think about a lot of things.
Speaker 1: He brings up two interesting things, which is finding adventure
Speaker 1: by traveling to every single country in the world and
Speaker 1: talking to as many people as you possibly can, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, going super super Loco crazy mode, and then
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, which is, can you find the
Speaker 1: satisfaction that you would find going super Loco crazy mode
Speaker 1: traveling to every country in the world by sitting in
Speaker 1: the chair that you're sitting in right now, staring at
Speaker 1: a roll of paper towels and going what a crazy
Speaker 1: thing it is to just be alive looking at a
Speaker 1: roll of paper towels. And I believe in both of those,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep staring at this roll of paper
Speaker 1: towels and appreciating what an honor it is to be
Speaker 1: doing that. This episode's brought to you by Bounty Paper Towels.
Speaker 1: Paul from Anthony Anthony talked.
Speaker 3: To me, Oh, hell, what I actually got connected you did?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: I've got a few things I want to talk to
Speaker 3: you though. First, what's your opinion on klondake.
Speaker 1: Bars I used to be obsessed with Klondike bars Man.
Speaker 1: They used to have this, uh Reese's flavor, and I
Speaker 1: think it was like it was the actual No, dude, No,
Speaker 1: they used to have this like Reese's Klondike that was
Speaker 1: in the shape of a Reese's cup. That was bomb.
Speaker 1: I love Klondike bars. Are you about to ask me
Speaker 1: what I would do for one? Because if you do,
Speaker 1: I'm going to hang up on you.
Speaker 3: No no, no, But like bro oh god, the other
Speaker 3: day I bought Reese's condyke bars.
Speaker 1: You're out a Shako taco. I have heard of this,
Speaker 1: it's by It's part of the Klondike family.
Speaker 3: I have not got to look for next time I
Speaker 3: go to work.
Speaker 1: Well, now I think that I think they were discontinued.
Speaker 1: That might have actually just been a market that might
Speaker 1: have might have just been like a PR stunt. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I've been in like uh, comedian stores and
Speaker 1: seeing them around recently. But I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: greater reason why you're asking me these questions. But I
Speaker 1: also now that now that that came out of my mouth,
Speaker 1: I'm realizing that there probably is not.
Speaker 3: I've just been like realing the Klondike bars recently.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about. I had a
Speaker 1: Clondike bar face where I was going to the grocery
Speaker 1: store and buying them, and they were like a part
Speaker 1: of my life for a little bit. I don't remember
Speaker 1: when I came that all.
Speaker 3: I work at a food line, right and one of
Speaker 3: my customers that I was serving has told me that
Speaker 3: there was like a two for six deal on like,
Speaker 3: uh like six packs of Colntac bars. I bought four packs. Well,
Speaker 3: I've been chowing down, so.
Speaker 1: That was twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What can you do? You have any Colondic bars with
Speaker 1: you right now?
Speaker 3: No, but I do have a rapper next to me, because, like,
Speaker 3: I just want.
Speaker 1: What's the most amount of Colntic bars you've been in
Speaker 1: one day?
Speaker 3: Uh? Well probably the other day. I think I had
Speaker 3: like four all playing Overwatch.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it would hurt.
Speaker 3: No, I mean like it was like over like an hour.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do with your
Speaker 1: life outside of Colntaic bars.
Speaker 3: Outside of Klondac bars. Well, I'm currently going to college,
Speaker 3: so there's that work. Well I'm not doing either of those.
Speaker 3: I really just play video games.
Speaker 1: You want to hear my fucking diet freshman year of
Speaker 1: college is awful? It was. It was. I would take
Speaker 1: Ramen Chicken. What's the name of the brand, Mari Mara,
Speaker 1: Mari Shianna or Mara whatever the whatever, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I would take that brand of Ramen
Speaker 1: Maru Chan Maru Chan ramen. Oh, I would put some
Speaker 1: butter in the noodles, and then for dessert, I would
Speaker 1: have sprinkled donut cap'n Crunch. It was ramen and sprinkled
Speaker 1: donut cap'n Crunch man Ship ruined my life. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Ie recording this, I'm gonna go get some sprinkled donnut
Speaker 1: cap'n Crunch. I wonder if they still make it. Dude, never,
Speaker 1: I know, I know that you're addicted to Klondike bars now,
Speaker 1: and I think it was shortly after my Klondike bar
Speaker 1: phase that I got into sprinkle donut Captain crunch. Do
Speaker 1: me if it? Never? Never try I sprinkled down a
Speaker 1: Captain Crunch. Don't do it. It will ruin your life. I
Speaker 1: feel as though I still my teeth still hurt from
Speaker 1: bowls of sprinkled donut Captain Crunch that I ate when
Speaker 1: I was a freshman in college. Don't ever eat that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I really don't do cereal too much, and when
Speaker 3: I do, it's like Raisin brand.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you're better than everyone else.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go that far. I just try to eat health.
Speaker 1: But you thought, you know, you thought I was being sarcastic.
Speaker 1: Just now as being a completely and utterly genuine you
Speaker 1: are better than everyone else. For not eating eating sprinkle
Speaker 1: donut Captain crunch makes you less of a person. I
Speaker 1: will defend that statement. I fully believe that I did
Speaker 1: not feel.
Speaker 3: Say that one time that every bowl a piece of
Speaker 3: your soul goes away.
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 3: Anthony?
Speaker 1: Anthony? Anthony? How long do you think I have left
Speaker 1: to live?
Speaker 3: Am I allowed to know your age?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm twenty five?
Speaker 3: All right, twenty five? Mm? I say you've got either
Speaker 3: twenty or forty years left in me, depending on your diet?
Speaker 1: And do you think I only have?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 1: You think I only have twenty years left to live?
Speaker 1: You know what the sad part is? You might be right?
Speaker 1: Would you really think I only have twenty yearslf to live?
Speaker 3: But like I don't know, like your told daily routine,
Speaker 3: so I can't properly discern when you might croak.
Speaker 1: If you do the answer, it'd probably go down to fifteen.
Speaker 1: How long do you think you have left to live?
Speaker 3: I'm only nineteen, trying to have relatively healthy.
Speaker 1: You should say you just told me you had four
Speaker 1: Klondike bars.
Speaker 3: And yeah, but like I work out, I eat healthy
Speaker 3: far better than everybody else.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because you are, because eating healthy and
Speaker 1: working out and living a healthy lifestyle does make you
Speaker 1: better than everybody else. I'm not saying that to be
Speaker 1: a dick. I'm saying that fully sincerely. I think you
Speaker 1: are a better person than I am in certainly. But again, Anthony, Anthony.
Speaker 1: But before we go, it's your dream in life?
Speaker 3: Man? Oh this would be kind of a say, But like,
Speaker 3: no matter where I am, I just want to feel
Speaker 3: like I'm at peace with my situation, stable, happy, contempt.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you think you're better than everyone else, because
Speaker 1: you are, Because that's a great goal to have in life.
Speaker 3: I actually have one more question for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's up, hivty.
Speaker 3: So what do you do for like income outside of
Speaker 3: therapy eco or is that like your soul pursuit and life?
Speaker 1: I beg for money onto the Brooklyn Bridge.
Speaker 3: You know what. I can respect that.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling, sir, No problem. You
Speaker 1: have a good night, and I make a damn good
Speaker 1: living doing it. A week, goes on the line, making
Speaker 1: your phone calls.
Speaker 2: Every night every week, and goes to drive staging you
Speaker 2: in your life.
Speaker 1: Exper