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Speaker 1: the episode. Mike, you got him? Hey, what's up? Mike?

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Speaker 2: Hey man? You got the real Worldwide Murdock the Hillbilly

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Speaker 2: vagabond on with you right now?

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Speaker 1: I repeat repeat that.

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Speaker 2: For me, The real live Murdoch the Hillbilly Vagabond with

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Speaker 2: you right now.

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Speaker 1: The real live Murdoch Hillbilly Vagabond. That's you.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, well, what's your story, Murdoch the Vagabond.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what's probably mind blowing. Most of it sounds

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Speaker 2: absolutely unbelievable, but I got pictures to prove it. Just

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Speaker 2: pick a region of the world maybe and we can

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Speaker 2: start there.

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Speaker 3: Or.

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Speaker 1: Any region of the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I've pretty much lived everywhere. I've

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Speaker 2: a was kind of a crazy hillbilly entrepreneur back in

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Speaker 1: Any region of the world, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Except and I'll go there one day.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, all right. Ireland, Well, the.

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Speaker 2: Only place in Ireland I've been with Shannon. The green

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Speaker 2: grass was super green and the beer was good. That

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Speaker 2: a place to visit. Afghanistan, Oh, got well, all over Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: I was there early in the Taliban Last Stan Phase three.

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Speaker 2: Kandahar ran up the bag room quite a lot. It

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Speaker 1: Alaska, Yeah, toodn't cold.

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Speaker 2: That was more of a transitory spot. I played with

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Speaker 1: Uganda, Jambo, Jambo.

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Speaker 2: I spent more of most of my Africa time on

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Speaker 2: some Swahili and akunamatada is a real saying and it

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Speaker 1: Uh, I can't think of any other places. Oh wait, Greenland.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've gone through Greenland a few times and it's

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Speaker 1: So what do you do? What's your deal?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the weird thing is I live about four

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Speaker 2: And right now I'm just a glorified ambulance driver in

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Speaker 2: But my territory went from South America, Central America, all

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Speaker 2: Toune in cold and they got some wicked skeeters that

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Speaker 2: it's sparsely populated. But I have this thing, it is

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Speaker 2: absolutely against my religion to walk on water. If I

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Speaker 2: By the way, I am Jewish by birth, but I'm

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Speaker 2: How so well, I figured there was only one guy

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Speaker 2: religiously that was good enough to do that. So if

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Speaker 2: more inclined to like Margarita's sunsets, you know, feet on

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Speaker 1: You're saying it, like, is it sacrilegious to walk on

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Speaker 2: Just for me, that's real number three. It's only my

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Speaker 2: I can't stand on solid water, it's too dang cold.

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Speaker 1: So you started off Jewish and then you became you

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Speaker 2: through a whole lot of religions trying to find my place.

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Speaker 2: I've been through that wonderful Latter day Saints. They have

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Speaker 1: I thought that I thought that Mormons have like a

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Speaker 2: Well that's only one group of them. Uh, strangely enough,

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Speaker 2: there is a group that is that way. And again

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Speaker 2: rule number three, that ain't my business what they do.

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Speaker 2: They're happy doing that that to them, But I found

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Speaker 2: that it is awful dang hard for me to please

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Speaker 1: Up alright, So what is a dudast priest?

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Speaker 2: Oh, well, dudas priests. We just kind of followed the

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Speaker 2: morals and ideas and the ways of the dude, which

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Speaker 2: came from a great movie which I shall not name

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is all from the Big Labet. Are you

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not doing a bit right now. This is

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Speaker 2: my actual real life. I'm telling you, I'm probably that

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Speaker 1: I have a question, go ahead, how did you end up? Like?

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Speaker 1: How did you find me on Twitch and call me?

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Speaker 1: How did you end up here?

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Speaker 2: Actually? Enough, my coworker here, uh, probably the most educated

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Speaker 2: more than that, but he just fixes busted up people

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Speaker 2: that I fly him around. But that being said, he

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Speaker 2: He goes, man, you have got to tell your story

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Speaker 2: started listening to you myself. I'm like, that's some pretty

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Speaker 2: That's the only reason I probably haven't been burnt at

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Speaker 1: So where are you at in your religious beliefs now?

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Speaker 2: I am once called a free agent. I've quite literally

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Speaker 2: lived with every culture of the world. I mean, being American,

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Speaker 2: But I've had a hard time with that in my

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Speaker 2: I spent some time at the Jewish Temple trying to

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Speaker 2: some pals and Buddhists, And I could really dig the

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Speaker 2: Buddhist way because that that kind of fills towards the

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Speaker 2: Dudhist priest way. You know, be chill, live within your

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Speaker 2: just don't know. I can't say one hundred percent where

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Speaker 2: I fit in, and until that day comes, I'll just

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Speaker 1: What's your name again?

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike. My old call sign marmee call sign was Murdoch.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the crazy.

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Speaker 1: Hell right murder? All right, well I'll call you Mike. Mike.

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Speaker 1: What's your what's your family friends situation? Who's who's around

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Speaker 1: you in your life? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: That that vagabond vagabond? Uh side of me? I stayed

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Speaker 2: pretty much on the go. I have a couple of

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Speaker 1: Where are you now?

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Speaker 2: I am currently in a little town in south central Illinois,

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Speaker 2: No, it's Murdoch the Hillbilly Vagabond. That's the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: And when they were telling me, you know, so, you

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Speaker 1: And you know, have you ever a lot of people

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Speaker 2: I had worked really hard, and to mind you, I

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00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: was that statistical kid, you know, single mom straight out

437
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: the single wide in the darn Hill Billy part of Tennessee,

438
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: where most everybody would figure you're just going to be

439
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: a tobacco farmer or something. And I just decided, at

440
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: that young age, I was going to do something about that.

441
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: And I did. Became the youngest warrant officer candidate in

442
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Speaker 2: the Army at the time, nineteen years old in Warren

443
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Offer candidate school. Unfortunately got hurt, you know, and that

444
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: ended my short Army career, but still didn't stop me.

445
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: I kept pursuing my dream of flying, and I turned

446
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: that into every aspect of it, flying airplanes, flying helicopters.

447
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: I became a licensed mechanic, then a federal inspector of aircraft,

448
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: added an airspace engineering degree on top of that, and

449
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: built my own little nish empire by traveling around the

450
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: world and setting up these operations and clandestine environments and huh,

451
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: that's just because I believed I could do it. But

452
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: then again, the wonderful government decided that I needed to

453
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: donate all that the society for the betterment of everybody,

454
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: which you know, some people think is a good thing.

455
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: This redistribution of wealth. That made me angry for a

456
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: little bit, but I got over it got me this

457
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: awesome job helping people again, flying a glorified eight million

458
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: dollar amber lamps in the sky, and man, I've been

459
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: really enjoying that and I've never looked back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you know, so, so you had you had this

461
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Speaker 1: this business and you were setting up like uh uh,

462
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Speaker 1: it sounds too complicated for me to understand what I'm

463
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: gonna try to put in a place where I can

464
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Speaker 1: understand it. You had this business where you were like

465
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: setting up these arrow you were setting up planes. I'm

466
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: gonna you were doing airplane stuff in many different countries.

467
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: And eventually the tax collectors came and the tax collectors

468
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: were like, hey, you owe us like a lot of money,

469
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh fuck. And so your business was

470
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: basically destroyed. And then you had to get a real job.

471
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: And now you're working your job. Job Is that accurate?

472
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Real job? I mean, I'm getting paid to do some

473
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: awesome stuff, so I can't complain. Uh, But that's pretty

474
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: much how it went down. And to be known, it

475
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: was my fault. I was ignorance of the tax laws.

476
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: So it's not like I'm bashing stuff. I made a

477
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: legit screw up, and and it's all all done in

478
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Speaker 2: the past.

479
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Moved on.

480
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: But since that point I kind of lost that ambitious drive.

481
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: That makes sense. I'm super happy just existing today and

482
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: not worrying about building that empire for tomorrow. And I

483
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: think a lot of us get caught up in that

484
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: drive to try to prove that we're valuable by showing

485
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: that we've accumulated stuff and money and things, and I

486
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: think that's really driving a lot of sadness in today's world.

487
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: So you had this business. It you've you fucked up

488
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Speaker 1: with the tax thing, and the business was shut down,

489
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Speaker 1: and at the time, you were a very ambitious focused

490
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: like let me build my empire, let me build my status,

491
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: let me build my wealth. Yes, and that all that

492
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: got depleted and then that kind of started you on

493
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Speaker 1: the path to where you are right now, where you

494
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: feel as though you're living more more for every day itself.

495
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: Yep, sure enough, that's pretty much how it went. I mean,

496
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot more complicated that, but that's

497
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: the simple way. But still it's been a hell of

498
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: a life seeing the whole world many times over. It

499
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: just I don't know.

500
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Speaker 1: I don't either. How long ago did this happen with

501
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Speaker 1: the tax thing.

502
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Speaker 2: I was twenty fifteen, Okay, that was when I was

503
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: no longer the international man of Mystery, and then I

504
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: just turned into good old Murder the ambulance driver.

505
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: And are you happier since that happens?

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

507
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. It was an unimaginable weight lifted off

508
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: of man. I mean, when you have dozens and dozens

509
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: of forward bases all over the world, handling hundreds of

510
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: employees their visas, their paychecks, half of them at different countries,

511
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: knowing what currency they want to get paid in. Uh,

512
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: you know, having the high attrition rates because a lot

513
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: of places I work, most people wouldn't want to be so,

514
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: you know, you had to be real selective in hiring.

515
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

516
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Speaker 2: Most wouldn't last six weeks, you know, out in the

517
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Speaker 2: middle of the Pacific on a stinky old fish boat,

518
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: or in West Africa. You know, most people are are

519
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: very spoiled on their first world luxuries. We'll just say so.

520
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: It was. It was a very stressful job. I did

521
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Speaker 2: enjoy it because I felt I was contributing to the world.

522
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: But now, you know, looking back on it, it was

523
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: a heck of an adventure. But I'm just darn happy

524
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: to be alive today and talking to the therapy get

525
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: go m.

526
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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking a lot about what you're saying. It

527
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: makes the hell of a lot of sense. I think

528
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: about it in my own life, you know, because I

529
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: feel like I lose, I lose. One thing I really

530
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: try to think about all the time is the fact

531
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: that that life is such a it's so short, and

532
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: so even though fun imagined short.

533
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've got great mentors in their nineties, you know,

534
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: in their minds, they're still thirty years old, twenty years old,

535
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: and they can't believe it happened so fast. So that's all.

536
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: If I could impart anything is as sad as everybody

537
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: is in today's hyper connected world, is to just slow

538
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: down a minute, breathe, turn all of that stuff off,

539
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: and just enjoy you and your immediate surroundings for at

540
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: least an hour or two a day. Yeah, And it's

541
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: so much. It's hard to do because this stuff's addicting.

542
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: It's it's probably the most addicting drug in the world,

543
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: the old tiki takies, and then the YouTube's Heck, I'm

544
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: trying to cash in on it with my whole YouTube experiment,

545
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: but yeah, I don't know. It's interesting how conversation always

546
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: goes to I had no idea what I was going

547
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: to talk about other than crazy adventures, but it usually

548
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: ends up being philosophical because it's the same question I

549
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: get from anybody that ever asks about my crazy life

550
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: is why, And I'm like, I can't give you a why.

551
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: I just did what made me feel happy, and I

552
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: kept choosing a direction that I felt would continue the happiness.

553
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like I was saying, I think about it

554
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: in my own life. It's weird, you know, because I

555
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: think what I do is has afforded me uh an

556
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to like go travel places and do things and

557
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: live these these adventures. Because everything that you're talking about

558
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: is important to you. It's important to me too, going

559
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: on adventures and meeting people and whatnot. But uh, I

560
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: think it's important to like kind of I don't know,

561
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: maintain uh, maintain this, maintain side of that, and to

562
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: really keep in mind just how short life is and say,

563
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: let that be a significant I mean, it's really really

564
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: important thing to think about every day and and have

565
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: guide your your your choices. Ye.

566
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Speaker 2: You know, way too many people don't don't and I

567
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: mean by don't mean everything, They just don't because of

568
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: that fear of well what if this or what if that?

569
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: You know, and just lose out. I went my four

570
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: simple rules. These are my rules. I didn't get them

571
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: from anybody else. I just made them up about twenty

572
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: years ago, as I live.

573
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Offski is it.

574
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: No, this is my own, this is my own stuff.

575
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: It was just something funny that I got into and anyway,

576
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: that is a whole nother story. But live off of

577
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: what you earn. If I did not earn it, I

578
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: don't deserve it. That just basically means there's a lot

579
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: of people that's been really well off out there. I

580
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: just try never to be jealous of what they have,

581
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: you know. And rule number three is the most important rule.

582
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: If you skip, you skipped rule number two.

583
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: Rule number two is if you didn't earn it, I

584
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: don't deserve it. Rule number one is I live off

585
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: of what I earned, so I try not to go

586
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: into debt for things.

587
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I didn't realized that That hard.

588
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: Rule three, that's the most important, most important rule is

589
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: mind your business and demand those around your mind theirs.

590
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: That is a hard one to do, but you know,

591
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: the key to being yourself is don't get yourself tangled

592
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: up in other people's business. You know, always try to

593
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: do good, never do harm. But at the end of

594
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: the day, don't go poke your nose in somebody else's stuff.

595
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: The same way they you should tell others not to

596
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: get involved in your business. And then number four is

597
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 2: the fund rule. So long as rule one, two and

598
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: three are satisfied, that is why not? It's not what if?

599
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: That is why not. You get an opportunity that comes

600
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: up and it satisfies one, two and three, then by

601
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: all means, give it a shot. Don't do a what if?

602
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 2: Go why not? You know, and you never know where

603
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: that's going to take you.

604
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that Belgium. You ever been

605
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: to Belgium?

606
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

607
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I pretty much did the whole European tour, and

608
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: honestly the best way to do it is by train.

609
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: But I never lived there, so I can't give you

610
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: the context of like culture other than that that edge

611
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: of Europe you know.

612
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: Uh, go ahead.

613
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Europe is everybody thinks here in America, you know,

614
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: as America. The borderers around US. America is huge. You

615
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: go to Europe from basically Saint Petersburg, Russia all the

616
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: way to Lisbon, Portugal is not nearly as big as

617
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: the US, and all it takes is a few hours

618
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: transit time, and you're in a totally different country with

619
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 2: totally different cultures, totally different languages, and they've been there

620
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: for thousands of years. It's definitely worth seeing and I

621
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: would recommend if you do it, on the.

622
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Train Murdoch the Hillbilly vagabonds as me, and that's your

623
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: YouTube channel as well.

624
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: It is Ye, old Murdoch came up from my army

625
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: days because I was a crazy kid that could fly everything.

626
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: And what's funny was here years later. I read the

627
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: bio for the character Murdoch from the A Team and

628
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: it's literally me, even though I'm younger than you know.

629
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Speaker 2: Eighteen was out in the eighties, which was my young

630
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: childhood days, but the bio for Murdoch is ridiculously identical

631
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: to who I am.

632
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Well, I have a couple final questions. What do you

633
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: feel like you learned learned about humanity through all of

634
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: your trials, your travels.

635
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: All right, well this was going to get deep, all right,

636
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: hit man. What I've learned about humanity is, no matter

637
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: what race, what religion, what culture, where you've grown up,

638
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: where you were born, where you've traveled to, for the

639
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: most part, everybody laughs and cries to the same thing.

640
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: Another thing I've learned about humanity is that as individuals,

641
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: most people tend to be good. You know, if I

642
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: was in any country of the world and I'm just

643
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: one on one with somebody else, you know we immediately

644
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: can get along have a good time. The caveat is

645
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: what I call tribalism, and this is where things go

646
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: downhill fast. And that is when you have any group

647
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: of people who identify more with their group and then

648
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: regard any other group, you always have problems. And that's

649
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: everything for grace, religion, culture, where you're born in the world.

650
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: That tribalism is what's causing so many problems today is

651
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: because they we can't just live to be me. They

652
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: have to be part of some groups. And my group,

653
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: by golly, is better than your groups, and it always

654
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: starts a conflict where every individual person, even in the

655
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: middle of war. You know, I've been in terrible war

656
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: zones and had the most enlightened, enlightening conversations with who's

657
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: supposed to be my enemy, you know, and we are

658
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: the greatest of friends. But tomorrow, once he is back

659
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: part of his group, it will be his job to

660
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: kill me. And I just could never subscribe. That's why

661
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: I consider myself a free agent. I don't belong to

662
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: any group. I am just me. I'm the old hillbilly

663
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: named Murdoch, and I'm just here to meet people continue

664
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: my own adventure and mind my business and hopefully, you know,

665
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: I can help somebody else along the way.

666
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: And when you die, Murdoch, when your adventure comes to

667
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: an end, what do you think happens?

668
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: That all depends. I'm probably going to go out like

669
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: a legend. So when they put me in the box,

670
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: if there's a box, if they could even find me,

671
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: because who knows where I'm going to be when I

672
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: finally check out. But I definitely want, if that's the situation,

673
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: folks to come up look at me and absolutely shudder.

674
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: I want them to like gasp and say, that guy

675
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 2: lived one hell of a life and it can tell

676
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: I could see, you know rough, but you know, it's

677
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: just because I have earned that right to have such

678
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: a crazy ass life in the adventure that I've gone through.

679
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: But most likely I'll never be found because I probably

680
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: want to check back out of society in a few years,

681
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: get back on my boat and start going round. I've

682
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: almost made it all the way around the world on

683
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: a sailboat. I've still got the Indian Ocean and the

684
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Mediterranean left. So once I check out, you know, I'll

685
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: might do a Facebook post an occasional upload to my

686
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: YouTube channel what I'm doing. But that's pretty much the

687
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: only contact I want to have with first world society

688
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: after that.

689
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: But do you do you have any thoughts about I

690
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: don't know the like, did you believe in a life

691
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: after death like a heaven or hell or a reincarnation or.

692
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: I can't tell you what it is what that's going

693
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: to be, but just the scientists didn't be one hundred percent.

694
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: You cannot create nor destroy energy, so we have to

695
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: transmit from one something something to another. There is no

696
00:42:54,920 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: way you can destroy any kind of memory. There's another

697
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: word for it, but basically information can't be destroyed once

698
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: it's created. Whatever your soul is, you know, just believe

699
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: exactly what you want to believe that there is something else,

700
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: because that definitely gives you peace at the end. If

701
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: I check out tomorrow, I'm absolutely at peace with that.

702
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: But what religion might be correct? I can't answer that.

703
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: But I have been around enough people who have died

704
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: in my presence, and I don't mean that in a

705
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: weird way. It's just something else I've been through to

706
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: almost feel kind of an energy when they die, And

707
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: that's a whole nother story. I can go down it's

708
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: a big rabbit hole. On the philosophical side. Also have

709
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: an honorary degree in metaphysics PhD actually in metaphysics. Do

710
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: a lot of deep thought around there, and still I

711
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: can't say where I fit into it. So but I

712
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: absolutely do think believe. I can't say I know because

713
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: I can't possibly know, but I believe that when we

714
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: leave this realm, we're starting a new adventure. I just

715
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: don't know what.

716
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: It is, you know, I've always I was talking to

717
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: my friend about this. When I die, I kind of

718
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: don't want to be put in like a box, like

719
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: just throw me in the dirt, right because I do

720
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: I agree with what you said. The energy like it

721
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: has to go somewhere. And I think if I die

722
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: in a box, I'm not leaving the box. Throw me

723
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: in the dirt so the ants can eat me and

724
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: then I can I can like become ants or something.

725
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyways, you know who we are in

726
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: my belief anyways, just the energy contained in the body.

727
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: The body is just our robot that we control, you know, basically,

728
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: so when you leave, the body quits work, and that

729
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: was just you know, it's just now a used car

730
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: that don't work anymore kind of if that makes sense, No.

731
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: It does, I I do. I do have that feeling

732
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: about you know, we're just like renting our bodies. Yeah,

733
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: that's why I have this big thing I'm going through

734
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: and thinking about of like everyone being each other and

735
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: like I'm all bad things and I'm all good things

736
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: because we all come from the same whatever.

737
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, we go scientifically, we are one hundred

738
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: percent made in the supernova of a star. We all

739
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: started as I'm not a believer in the Big Bang.

740
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: That's a whole other thing I can go down, uh

741
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: scientifically anyway. But everything we are, in every rock, every tree,

742
00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: everything around us, you me, everybody is made starting from hydrogen.

743
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: It was fused and the helium fused in the heavier elements.

744
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: That only came about through the death of a supernova star.

745
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: And somehow we all kind of swirled around gravity pulled

746
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: everything together, and then we organized into what we call life.

747
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: And there's religious aspects to that.

748
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: You know.

749
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: I can't fathom how many different things it came to be,

750
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: how many coincidences for matter to start reproducing and turn

751
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: into sentient life, you know. So that's the philosophical side.

752
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: But that's what books me so much of everybody that

753
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: can't get along. And I know that's been said to

754
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: add nauseum, but we're literally built of the same crap.

755
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: Why do we gotta fight?

756
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Ah? Well, Murdoch the hillbilly vagabonds. This has been a

757
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: nice Uh, it's been a nice time talking with you, man.

758
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: I really do a prepreciate it. You're hitting on stuff

759
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: that I've been, you know, thinking about in my personal

760
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: life a lot. So it's it's good to get the

761
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: chat with you. You've inspired me to, you know, look

762
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: beyond my immediates, both look beyond my immediate surroundings for

763
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: more adventure and also the the the opposite of, just

764
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: like you said, trying to sit within them. Yeah, yeah, venture.

765
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: There is there anything that you want to save to

766
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we get out of here.

767
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: Nope, just live for today. Don't worry about everything going

768
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: on around you. Live for today. Try to find one

769
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: thing in your immediate surroundings every day that makes you happy,

770
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: and instead of worrying about bills and taxes and medical problems,

771
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: just for that little bit of time, just think of

772
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: how lucky you are to have that one little piece

773
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: of happiness and enjoy it, and then while doing that,

774
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: try to think and manifest, as you'd say, what you

775
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: would want to be better tomorrow. And that's it. Don't

776
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: don't go two years from now. It's only works for

777
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: a few days at a time. Anytime you try to

778
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: really push for that long term, there's it's just too

779
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: much just being happy.

780
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a roll of paper towels right now,

781
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: and hey, I've decided. I've decided that I'm not going

782
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: to pay my taxes.

783
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you, uh, the outcome of that

784
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: if you would like to know. It's probably not too pleasant.

785
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: I think I can. I think I think I can guess. Well, well, Murdock,

786
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: thank you very much, man. I appreciate you talking to

787
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: me for so long. And I'll have to check out

788
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: your your YouTube channel. Thanks for sharing all this stuff

789
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: with us.

790
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

791
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: Take care man. Yes, sir, I liked I liked Murdoch

792
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: and he made me think about a lot of things.

793
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: He brings up two interesting things, which is finding adventure

794
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: by traveling to every single country in the world and

795
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: talking to as many people as you possibly can, and uh,

796
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, going super super Loco crazy mode, and then

797
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, which is, can you find the

798
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: satisfaction that you would find going super Loco crazy mode

799
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: traveling to every country in the world by sitting in

800
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: the chair that you're sitting in right now, staring at

801
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: a roll of paper towels and going what a crazy

802
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: thing it is to just be alive looking at a

803
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: roll of paper towels. And I believe in both of those,

804
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep staring at this roll of paper

805
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: towels and appreciating what an honor it is to be

806
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: doing that. This episode's brought to you by Bounty Paper Towels.

807
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: Paul from Anthony Anthony talked.

808
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 3: To me, Oh, hell, what I actually got connected you did?

809
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: What's up?

810
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: All right?

811
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: I've got a few things I want to talk to

812
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: you though. First, what's your opinion on klondake.

813
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: Bars I used to be obsessed with Klondike bars Man.

814
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: They used to have this, uh Reese's flavor, and I

815
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: think it was like it was the actual No, dude, No,

816
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: they used to have this like Reese's Klondike that was

817
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: in the shape of a Reese's cup. That was bomb.

818
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: I love Klondike bars. Are you about to ask me

819
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: what I would do for one? Because if you do,

820
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to hang up on you.

821
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: No no, no, But like bro oh god, the other

822
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: day I bought Reese's condyke bars.

823
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: You're out a Shako taco. I have heard of this,

824
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: it's by It's part of the Klondike family.

825
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 3: I have not got to look for next time I

826
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: go to work.

827
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Well, now I think that I think they were discontinued.

828
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: That might have actually just been a market that might

829
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: have might have just been like a PR stunt. I'm

830
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: pretty sure I've been in like uh, comedian stores and

831
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: seeing them around recently. But I feel like there's a

832
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: greater reason why you're asking me these questions. But I

833
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: also now that now that that came out of my mouth,

834
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm realizing that there probably is not.

835
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: I've just been like realing the Klondike bars recently.

836
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about. I had a

837
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: Clondike bar face where I was going to the grocery

838
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: store and buying them, and they were like a part

839
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: of my life for a little bit. I don't remember

840
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: when I came that all.

841
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: I work at a food line, right and one of

842
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: my customers that I was serving has told me that

843
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: there was like a two for six deal on like,

844
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: uh like six packs of Colntac bars. I bought four packs. Well,

845
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 3: I've been chowing down, so.

846
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: That was twelve.

847
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

848
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: What can you do? You have any Colondic bars with

849
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: you right now?

850
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: No, but I do have a rapper next to me, because, like,

851
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 3: I just want.

852
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: What's the most amount of Colntic bars you've been in

853
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: one day?

854
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: Uh? Well probably the other day. I think I had

855
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: like four all playing Overwatch.

856
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: It sounds like it would hurt.

857
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 3: No, I mean like it was like over like an hour.

858
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

859
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do with your

860
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: life outside of Colntaic bars.

861
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: Outside of Klondac bars. Well, I'm currently going to college,

862
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: so there's that work. Well I'm not doing either of those.

863
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: I really just play video games.

864
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: You want to hear my fucking diet freshman year of

865
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: college is awful? It was. It was. I would take

866
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Ramen Chicken. What's the name of the brand, Mari Mara,

867
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: Mari Shianna or Mara whatever the whatever, you know what

868
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I would take that brand of Ramen

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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: Maru Chan Maru Chan ramen. Oh, I would put some

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Speaker 1: butter in the noodles, and then for dessert, I would

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Speaker 1: have sprinkled donut cap'n Crunch. It was ramen and sprinkled

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Speaker 1: donut cap'n Crunch man Ship ruined my life. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Ie recording this, I'm gonna go get some sprinkled donnut

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00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: cap'n Crunch. I wonder if they still make it. Dude, never,

875
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Speaker 1: I know, I know that you're addicted to Klondike bars now,

876
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: and I think it was shortly after my Klondike bar

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Speaker 1: phase that I got into sprinkle donut Captain crunch. Do

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00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: me if it? Never? Never try I sprinkled down a

879
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Captain Crunch. Don't do it. It will ruin your life. I

880
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: feel as though I still my teeth still hurt from

881
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: bowls of sprinkled donut Captain Crunch that I ate when

882
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: I was a freshman in college. Don't ever eat that stuff.

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00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I really don't do cereal too much, and when

884
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: I do, it's like Raisin brand.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you're better than everyone else.

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00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go that far. I just try to eat health.

887
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: But you thought, you know, you thought I was being sarcastic.

888
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Just now as being a completely and utterly genuine you

889
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: are better than everyone else. For not eating eating sprinkle

890
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Speaker 1: donut Captain crunch makes you less of a person. I

891
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: will defend that statement. I fully believe that I did

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Speaker 1: not feel.

893
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: Say that one time that every bowl a piece of

894
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 3: your soul goes away.

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 3: Anthony?

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Speaker 1: Anthony? Anthony? How long do you think I have left

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Speaker 1: to live?

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Speaker 3: Am I allowed to know your age?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I'm twenty five?

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00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: All right, twenty five? Mm? I say you've got either

902
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 3: twenty or forty years left in me, depending on your diet?

903
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Speaker 1: And do you think I only have?

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Speaker 2: Fuck?

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Speaker 1: You think I only have twenty years left to live?

906
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: You know what the sad part is? You might be right?

907
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Speaker 1: Would you really think I only have twenty yearslf to live?

908
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: But like I don't know, like your told daily routine,

909
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: so I can't properly discern when you might croak.

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Speaker 1: If you do the answer, it'd probably go down to fifteen.

911
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: How long do you think you have left to live?

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Speaker 3: I'm only nineteen, trying to have relatively healthy.

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Speaker 1: You should say you just told me you had four

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Speaker 1: Klondike bars.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, but like I work out, I eat healthy

916
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Speaker 3: far better than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because you are, because eating healthy and

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00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: working out and living a healthy lifestyle does make you

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Speaker 1: better than everybody else. I'm not saying that to be

920
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: a dick. I'm saying that fully sincerely. I think you

921
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Speaker 1: are a better person than I am in certainly. But again, Anthony, Anthony.

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Speaker 1: But before we go, it's your dream in life?

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Speaker 3: Man? Oh this would be kind of a say, But like,

924
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: no matter where I am, I just want to feel

925
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Speaker 3: like I'm at peace with my situation, stable, happy, contempt.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you think you're better than everyone else, because

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Speaker 1: you are, Because that's a great goal to have in life.

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Speaker 3: I actually have one more question for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's up, hivty.

930
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: So what do you do for like income outside of

931
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: therapy eco or is that like your soul pursuit and life?

932
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Speaker 1: I beg for money onto the Brooklyn Bridge.

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Speaker 3: You know what. I can respect that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for calling, sir, No problem. You

935
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Speaker 1: have a good night, and I make a damn good

936
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Speaker 1: living doing it. A week, goes on the line, making

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Speaker 1: your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Every night every week, and goes to drive staging you

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Speaker 2: in your life.

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Speaker 1: Exper