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Speaker 4: Okay, hey, everybody, welcome to Native Lamb POD's mini pod.
Speaker 5: You guys, I'm so excited about this show. Y'all want
Speaker 5: to hear a clap back.
Speaker 4: Tiff It is getting ready cracking him knuckles. Okay, here's
Speaker 4: the situation. We have seen a lot of great thing
Speaker 4: pieces deep dives on kay Lamar's amazing Super Bowl performance.
Speaker 4: Your resident sports expert is here to break down the
Speaker 4: NFL Super Bowl if you want her to. She knows
Speaker 4: who won the game. But most importantly, we know who
Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl period.
Speaker 5: That is Kendrick Lamar. But that everybody agrees.
Speaker 4: In fact, some black people don't even agree. And so
Speaker 4: we're gonna play this clip for y'all so you can
Speaker 4: see what's going on. We did invite this gentleman to
Speaker 4: join us on the show today, however, there's been no response,
Speaker 4: so we'll respond anyway.
Speaker 5: We're gonna roll this clip and get back to you
Speaker 5: on the other side.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, I'm sorry. Kendrick Lamar at the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl was whack that was one of the worst halftime
Speaker 2: shows in recent memory. First of all, Kendrick Lamar is
Speaker 2: not mainstreams like, people do not know those songs. The
Speaker 2: white people at the Super Bowl party that I was with,
Speaker 2: he may as well have been speaking Mandarin, all right,
Speaker 2: because nobody knew these songs. Nobody knew what he was
Speaker 2: rapping about outside of not leg us obviously, but nobody
Speaker 2: knows these songs. Second of all, Blake can be black black.
Speaker 2: I'm so much blacker than you. Halftime shows are very passe,
Speaker 2: like that stuff peaked in the BLM era. It's very
Speaker 2: not of this moment. It very much does not work,
Speaker 2: and also it's been done better, so at this point
Speaker 2: nobody cares. Third of all, forty three year old mother
Speaker 2: of two Serena Williams and a bad blonde wig like
Speaker 2: cripwalking is embarrassing, Like I'm embarrassed for her. She should
Speaker 2: be embarrassed for herself. It's just all really, really passe.
Speaker 2: There is nothing about that halftime performance that work. So
Speaker 2: what I need to tell the NFL nation that anybody's
Speaker 2: doing that Super Bowl try to make a show that's
Speaker 2: for all of America, because that was not for all
Speaker 2: of America. That was for like a friend that knows
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar and that knows you know his repsut, Like,
Speaker 2: you're not going to tell me that that man is mainstream.
Speaker 5: Okay, Tim, you was cracking and knuckles what you got?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, a couple of things. One, I just want
Speaker 1: to say about the Super Bowl in general. I kept
Speaker 1: hearing people say, oh, they're two black quarterbacks, they are
Speaker 1: two black quarterbacks. There was one black quarterback. There was
Speaker 1: one black quarterback, and okay, Jalen Hurts. You know, we
Speaker 1: were rooting for Jalen Hurts. We were rooting for the
Speaker 1: black quarterback with the black fiance, with the black agent,
Speaker 1: with the black family, with the black people around him.
Speaker 1: We root for everybody black right right, a real life
Speaker 1: as Omega, not for Maga lover with his Maga loving
Speaker 1: uh Jordan Peel get out wife so I and his
Speaker 1: mama and his mama. So I just was confused at
Speaker 1: the descriptor because I think we all knew that that
Speaker 1: wasn't true. Secondly, with regards to this clip, it's very
Speaker 1: strange to me, and he's not the only person who
Speaker 1: I have heard express similar thoughts, not around Kendrick Lamar's performance,
Speaker 1: but around this idea that white is right, around this
Speaker 1: idea of lets tave in front of them. My former
Speaker 1: colleague Jonathan K Hart wrote a a fed piece in
Speaker 1: the Post after the slap Do we need to say
Speaker 1: anything after the slap?
Speaker 3: Everybody knows the slap when you say that.
Speaker 1: But after that incident at the oscars, he wrote a
Speaker 1: piece and the headline was will Smith, the white people
Speaker 1: are looking at you.
Speaker 3: And I just find that way of thinking so incredibly sad.
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine living my life like that, right, because
Speaker 1: I don't think on January sixth that white people were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so embarrassed. Oh man, the black
Speaker 1: folks are looking at us after our folks showed our ass.
Speaker 1: And so when I heard this man not only denigrate
Speaker 1: himself but denigrate Serena Williams the goat uh denigrate Kendrick Lamar,
Speaker 1: an artists who literally made an American flag out of
Speaker 1: black men and the symbolism there, it just shows that
Speaker 1: it wasn't for him. It was lost on him.
Speaker 3: Right right.
Speaker 1: What all that said, It just showed his intellectual and
Speaker 1: artistic limitations that he was so caught up in what
Speaker 1: the white folks thought that he couldn't enjoy that moment.
Speaker 5: But you know, he not like us, so I don't
Speaker 5: know it.
Speaker 6: Does it.
Speaker 2: Does?
Speaker 3: No one mustard on the beat, potatoes.
Speaker 7: To the picnic. That's for show that cookout I mean,
Speaker 7: I mean cookouts. They do have stove top mac and cheese. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I ain't talking, I ain't yeah anyway, So listen to this.
Speaker 7: I think it is really sad because I took similarly
Speaker 7: from you away from this that I'm like, man, what
Speaker 7: must it feel like to like run your life through
Speaker 7: the filter of Are the white people around me gonna
Speaker 7: be okay? Will they like me after this? Shall I
Speaker 7: be embarrassed about us? Because they didn't know the lyrics?
Speaker 7: The man got a fucking record. Go listen, go buy
Speaker 7: the record. You'd know the songs. But moreover, I don't
Speaker 7: give a damn if they don't notice the damn lyrics.
Speaker 7: I don't care if they're now singing along. It wasn't
Speaker 7: for them anyway. And the fact that your tentacles went
Speaker 7: up to the fact that he's not quote unquote mainstream,
Speaker 7: which let's just translate.
Speaker 6: White acceptable, right, white approved, white produced, white sanctioned That
Speaker 6: is what he means when he says these are not
Speaker 6: the type of artists who are mainstream.
Speaker 7: You know, he wasn't talking about he's not acceptable to
Speaker 7: black people. He's not acceptable to brown people. He's not
Speaker 7: acceptable to woke you know, people who are conscious, who
Speaker 7: are awake and breathing and aware in the bodies that
Speaker 7: they're in. That wasn't his complaint. What he wanted was
Speaker 7: lollipop bobbity do bob mute, right. He wanted this stuff.
Speaker 7: We could all just sort of cheer along to the
Speaker 7: brother wasn't looking for a message, and I'm not sure
Speaker 7: he would have caught it anyway. And so your point, Iff,
Speaker 7: and more importantly, I think to the point of the
Speaker 7: artist himself, Kendrick Lamar does brother just ain't like us.
Speaker 7: And I'm being very very the brother, in my sentence,
Speaker 7: is doing a lot of work.
Speaker 5: I yeah, that's it's over healed.
Speaker 4: I just want to point out that the song that
Speaker 4: Kendrick lamartiz throughout his performance, not Like Us, debuted number
Speaker 4: one on the Hot one hundred for Billboard. It had
Speaker 4: seventeen million official US streams in a single tracking week.
Speaker 4: And since we're doing math and I don't even like math,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna help this brother because he couldn't figure
Speaker 4: out that his shirt was too tight for said bathroom
Speaker 4: video that he recorded during.
Speaker 5: His alleged takedown of Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 4: That one hundred and thirty three point five million people
Speaker 4: watched this halftime show, making it the most watched Super
Speaker 4: Bowl halftime show in history only the only second. Michael
Speaker 4: Jackson is second now to Kendrick Lamar. So I think
Speaker 4: that that's nonsense.
Speaker 7: Now, I think it's in programming period. I think this
Speaker 7: may have been the most viewed programming period.
Speaker 5: Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 7: That's least. We'll go with your stat which is whatever
Speaker 7: it is.
Speaker 5: Is first is number one.
Speaker 4: And now this is the other thing that I want
Speaker 4: to point out, and I think Tiff was hitting at this.
Speaker 4: I think this man has said in this video three times,
Speaker 4: the white people I was with, the white people, I
Speaker 4: was with the white people I was with. And I'm
Speaker 4: trying to figure out why you took your black ass
Speaker 4: to the bathroom to talk to us about the white
Speaker 4: people you were with.
Speaker 5: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4: The white people you were with might not have known
Speaker 4: the lyrics, but they kids did. And There are videos
Speaker 4: all over the internet of these kids singing every single
Speaker 4: one of the lyrics. Of course, not the N word.
Speaker 4: The N word wasn't even said during the during the performance.
Speaker 4: The other thing that I want to point out is
Speaker 4: how dare you negro? Dressed down? Serena Williams, who also cripwalks,
Speaker 4: also crip walking. There is a contention about where it
Speaker 4: really came from because there was a nineteen forties artist
Speaker 4: who was handicapped. He had one leg and he was
Speaker 4: doing a dance that they called a cripwalk because he
Speaker 4: was crippled. It just so happens that a gang might
Speaker 4: have taken that on it you know the name. But
Speaker 4: I just want to also point that out because it's
Speaker 4: a Black history moment in Black History months, something you
Speaker 4: also don't know anything about, because you would know that
Speaker 4: Serena is not to be messed with, So you talking
Speaker 4: about her wig You come in at the appearance of
Speaker 4: a black woman and a white woman you would never like,
Speaker 4: how dare you, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna call you brother.
Speaker 4: Last thing you talk about Kendrick Lamar being on the fringe,
Speaker 4: This is not fringe, this is mainstream, Drake. You clearly
Speaker 4: listen to Drake, and so I just want to just
Speaker 4: be very clear about the fact that this is someone
Speaker 4: who understands hip hop, brought it to the culture, knew
Speaker 4: the importance of the symbol of lism, of having Samuel
Speaker 4: Jackson being Uncle Sam in the face of white America
Speaker 4: that has had to whitewash America's history despite the fact
Speaker 4: that it was built on our backs. The black people
Speaker 4: hunched over making the American flag on their backs literally.
Speaker 5: And then Kendrick Lamar standing in the middle.
Speaker 4: Of a divided America and saying to you, especially Negro,
Speaker 4: that you picked the.
Speaker 5: Right time, but the wrong guy.
Speaker 4: And that was especially for people like you that don't
Speaker 4: understand that we too sing America. And on that I
Speaker 4: just want to briefly go to Langston Hughes's poem, I
Speaker 4: too sing America.
Speaker 5: I am the darker brother.
Speaker 4: They send me to eat in the kitchen when company comes,
Speaker 4: But I.
Speaker 5: Laugh and eat well and grow strong.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow I'll sit at the table when company comes. Nobody
Speaker 4: will dare say to me eat in the kitchen. Then, besides,
Speaker 4: they'll see how beautiful I am.
Speaker 5: And be ashamed. I too am America.
Speaker 4: And that was the message behind that very powerful display.
Speaker 5: If you don't understand that, forty acres and.
Speaker 4: A mule would have went to you, too, Negro, had
Speaker 4: we had the law not be overtaken by once again
Speaker 4: a rogue president.
Speaker 5: But you too busy in the.
Speaker 4: Goddamn bathroom, which your tight ass shirt on, defending what
Speaker 4: White America wants you to say. So shame on you,
Speaker 4: and we welcome you to the podcast to say this
Speaker 4: bullshit to our faces.
Speaker 5: I'm done.
Speaker 7: Well, let's just title this that we are. We are
Speaker 7: very gracious in giving of our time and our words
Speaker 7: and our energy, because dam young man didn't deserveh of
Speaker 7: what we spent on them, but.
Speaker 5: His misinformed audiences.
Speaker 7: It's for y'all. It's for him and those adjacent to him.
Speaker 7: My only thing would be, y'all just love yourselves. If
Speaker 7: you loved you as much as I love us bad, please,
Speaker 7: you wouldn't be stutting what everybody else got to say.
Speaker 7: Love yourself.
Speaker 5: Brother, he's on the fringe. He's on the French.
Speaker 3: Also going to this party when it ain't none of
Speaker 3: us there.
Speaker 5: Like that's also weird.
Speaker 7: Yeah, stove top macaroni, stove top macarth of course you
Speaker 7: have a friend you at party.
Speaker 4: A little bun for crowd, back and cheese the blue box.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's not saying the brand stove top. He seen
Speaker 5: you cooked it on. I got it now I'm back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Do It's weird.
Speaker 1: Nobody does. Nobody does.
Speaker 6: Anyway.
Speaker 3: He want to say he wants attention, that's what I think.
Speaker 7: Well we gave him some. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hated to do this to y'all, but I
Speaker 4: just thought it was necessary because there are people who
Speaker 4: get so irate, like we have a black Santa Claus.
Speaker 4: They do a whole special about Black Santa Claus when
Speaker 4: we have the halftime show and feature blackness on his
Speaker 4: full display. Siss all of those da answers, even the protester.
Speaker 4: There was even space for a protester first too, Dan
Speaker 4: and Gaza, even though they said they abandoned for life
Speaker 4: from this from any more NFL.
Speaker 7: So, I say, when he was doing that again.
Speaker 4: Wait he said, he said? He said, he said, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna get hit by a Secret
Speaker 4: Service bullet. So, I mean, you know, for somebody that's like,
Speaker 4: I'm willing to risk my life for a cause, this
Speaker 4: man could never he don't know nothing about that. What
Speaker 4: Kendrick did was bold, courageous and more than timely. And
Speaker 4: speaking of prophets, I think he's.
Speaker 5: One of them.
Speaker 7: I love it everybody playing their part, from the bishop
Speaker 7: in the National Cathedral to Kendrick Lamar on the field.
Speaker 7: All right, that was hot. But you know what, I
Speaker 7: like the fact that it's not just for him. It's
Speaker 7: for him and the adjacent y'all need to get awake.
Speaker 7: Come awake, come awake.
Speaker 4: I mean, do anything, but do anything, but do these
Speaker 4: damn video. Don't do no more videos like this. Don't
Speaker 4: do no more videos.
Speaker 3: I think he did it for attention, and we gave
Speaker 3: him the attention he wanted.
Speaker 6: He got it.
Speaker 4: But you know what the thing is he I think
Speaker 4: he also did it for approval, and it wasn't our approval.
Speaker 5: He was right. I think they have.
Speaker 7: Got but you know he got that.
Speaker 4: But I think my question to y'all too, is like
Speaker 4: why I remember having this whole conversation and Andrew, I
Speaker 4: think you know Gary Flowers that used to work for
Speaker 4: Reverend Jack.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, tif I know you know him,
Speaker 5: but I remember.
Speaker 4: Kind of growing up on the hill and Gary saying
Speaker 4: to me that black folks go over there because the
Speaker 4: line is shorter. And when I see people like him,
Speaker 4: it's like, this guy is doing videos pontificating about DEI
Speaker 4: and why it shouldn't exist and all that, And I'm like, nigro.
Speaker 4: You know, in the other words that I want to say,
Speaker 4: you literally are a gay black Republican. The reason why
Speaker 4: you get any attention is because you are a gay
Speaker 4: black Hi.
Speaker 7: He But I'm saying he.
Speaker 4: Had theirs space for him because he fits in an
Speaker 4: area where they don't have anybody the him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's my point is shorter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And by the way, equity includes. And when I
Speaker 7: hear it from Trump or Advance, and all I hear
Speaker 7: is nigga, I supplant the word that all, which is why.
Speaker 3: That's what they mean, That's what.
Speaker 6: That's what. But I'm.
Speaker 7: Herschel and them and all the other ones who can't
Speaker 7: put a real sentence together. But their north star is
Speaker 7: measured by their adjacent c the whiteness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're never they're never.
Speaker 7: Cheap, but it's they're gonna bend over backwards, break their back,
Speaker 7: their legs. That I mean, all of it until he
Speaker 7: turned black, Ye, until he was black.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand certain pockets of white people thinking that it's
Speaker 1: just hard to see when people adopt that themselves. You
Speaker 1: know where you have been so like, I feel sad
Speaker 1: for you because you miss so much. It is nope culture.
Speaker 7: You know, somebody forgot to teach him how to love himself.
Speaker 3: Head.
Speaker 4: Imagine you're trying not to bob his head at the
Speaker 4: super Bowl party.
Speaker 1: He may have been he may have been raised in
Speaker 1: the way that he doesn't even know to about his head.
Speaker 1: You know, truly, he lost the rhythm, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's that's it's just sad.
Speaker 5: To see you can't.
Speaker 1: Right right, Well, he had it. It's your birth right,
Speaker 1: like somewhere along the way he said, he.
Speaker 3: Here, y'all go.
Speaker 7: Lots of people reject the birth right from birth.
Speaker 3: Lots of folks this nature versus nurture.
Speaker 1: I think it's your natural and then you get nurtured
Speaker 1: out of your culture.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, somebody needed love. He need to love
Speaker 7: on himself. Can't nobody get that to you?
Speaker 5: Brother? Tell him is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, you don't want no mustard on the beer.
Speaker 5: That's all we gotta say. All we gotta say.
Speaker 4: Episode Toms insteady you're calling people toms or coons or
Speaker 4: anything disparaging.
Speaker 5: Is Like, I'll be like, Andrew, can we call this episode?
Speaker 3: Can we just try to unison so we know the
Speaker 3: way to do it?
Speaker 1: When I say so, if I give you the look Andrew,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Andrew, we gotta get a unison.
Speaker 5: Well it's hard because you know we're not all together.
Speaker 5: We all together. We gotta do a video do it.
Speaker 3: We'll do it.
Speaker 5: I love it, I love you guys.
Speaker 4: Episode was I know that you guys hate when I
Speaker 4: have these things, but thank you for indulging me.
Speaker 5: I really wanted him on the show. Rob, You're welcome.
Speaker 5: You come on the show any time, but we's gonna
Speaker 5: be in now.
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk time.
Speaker 5: Come up with definitely that's what he wants.
Speaker 7: Like we got a no, I'm just saying with way
Speaker 7: too much waste of time. Time, we will get back.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, this has been another episode of Native Lampod.
Speaker 4: It's a mini pod and they were gonna end this
Speaker 4: episode different Welcome Home and Love Yourself.
Speaker 7: Snatched We tried.
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