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Speaker 1: Never told your protection of I heart Radio. And it

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Speaker 1: is Thursday, which means it is once again at time

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Speaker 1: for another happy hour and peek behind the curtains. Listeners.

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Speaker 1: This is part two of our mostly me but are

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Speaker 1: quick reviews on recent horror movies that fall under the

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Speaker 1: category of what I would call elevated horror, specifically around women,

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Speaker 1: um which we are planning a whole episode on and

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Speaker 1: as yeah, as we said in our part one of this,

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Speaker 1: if you have any recommendations, please let us know, because

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Speaker 1: I'm just fascinated by this whole thing. Uh so we

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Speaker 1: are drinking the same thing, but for the sake of

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Speaker 1: the listeners, Samantha William tell them again, what are you

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Speaker 1: sitting on sipping on the Costco Advent calendar of wines?

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Speaker 1: As always, if you choose to drink, please do so responsibly.

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Speaker 1: We are not sponsored by anything that we have mentioned currently,

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Speaker 1: but that could change because we have dynamic sponsors Costco

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Speaker 1: call me you know how to finder. So yes, this

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Speaker 1: is a part two. Uh, there will be some spoilers

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Speaker 1: and this one we're focusing on the movies She Will

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Speaker 1: part one, we talked about Pearl and X and men Um.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I have already started my horror movie rotation,

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Speaker 1: so I'm looking for suggestions. If you've got them, I

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm really reading too much into it. I

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Speaker 1: So this movie is about witches who, yes, who had

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Speaker 1: Cannibalism I'm assuming. I'm assuming I've heard it's cannibalism, but

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Speaker 1: love when they say that, Okay, cool cool cool cool

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